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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Hammer on September 06, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
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All his records have long been broken. If he were to compete in prime form in powerlifting and strongman today would he stand out like he did in the 80's?
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He totaled over #2400 with none of the new gear they have today, so yes, he'd still be a force on the powerlifting scene.
He'd have a much harder time in strongman though. The field is much bigger now, most of the athletes are larger now, and they're training much more event specific than they use too.
That pec tearin the bar bend really hurt him too. He never fully recovered from it.
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With the gear and training today he'd be Mr. Arnold beating branches
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WOuld like to know the full story/more footage of that incident.
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WOuld like to know the full story/more footage of that incident.
I haven't seen anymore of that incident other than what was posted, and I think the fellow that made the film doesn't have any more than that.
The fellow being yelled at is another strongman from Britain that was semi-famous years back, whoses name escapes me. He was claiming to be the strongest man in the World and mentioned Kazmaier, so when Kazmaier was in europe for a power meet, he found the guy and bitched him out.
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Dave Gauder, that's the guy -
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Records have "long been broken"?? His raw PL numbers are still not far off what the current records are.
- He is wearing a "suit" for the squats, bench and DL were raw.
Guy was massively strong. If he was still in his prime today with the access athletes now have to strongman equipment, no doubt in my mind he'd still be winning titles. A true legend.
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With the gear and training today he'd be Mr. Arnold beating branches
x2
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He is a beast no matter what time period he is in
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Amazing Kaz is still alive. Look at the size of his mellon. Its twice the size of Jay Cutler's.
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He is a beast no matter what time period he is in
THIS ^^^ Kaz was a FUCKING MUTANT !!!
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All his records have long been broken. If he were to compete in prime form in powerlifting and strongman today would he stand out like he did in the 80's?
Good video, Kazmaier is a getbigger no question
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LOL ;D
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Ever meet Kaz in person? I have.. Total douche-bag...
One of the best lifters ever, period. But still a douche..
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Tier 1! :P
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All his records have long been broken. If he were to compete in prime form in powerlifting and strongman today would he stand out like he did in the 80's?
his all-time best bp was 660, with the right shirt he could have put up 900 pounds or so
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Ever meet Kaz in person? I have.. Total douche-bag...
One of the best lifters ever, period. But still a douche..
You can get cream for sore vaginas pretty cheap Powerlift66, why have you left it so long?
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All his records have long been broken. If he were to compete in prime form in powerlifting and strongman today would he stand out like he did in the 80's?
Lol @ Kaz towering over that dude, and then calling him a pipsqueak.
Kaz was a monster in every way.
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lol Kaz got owned by possibly the best strongman of all time....JON PALL SIGMARSON..who if he hadn't died could have amassed a record number of world strongman titles....
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Ever meet Kaz in person? I have.. Total douche-bag...
One of the best lifters ever, period. But still a douche..
I've met him and he was very cool with me. Maybe you met him on a bad day. We all have 'em. (For what it's worth, my good friend lived not too far from him several years ago and would see him frequently out and about. Says he was always nice to him, too.)
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Bill is my all-time fave strong man. His powerlifting feats, in my opinion, have yet to be bettered, when factoring in his minimal use of gear and the manner in which he performed his lifts. CRAZY strong.
And one of the true pioneers and great champions of strongman.
The man was born to be a freak of size and strength.
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Weak as a whale fart.
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I've met him and he was very cool with me. Maybe you met him on a bad day. We all have 'em. (For what it's worth, my good friend lived not too far from him several years ago and would see him frequently out and about. Says he was always nice to him, too.)
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Bill is my all-time fave strong man. His powerlifting feats, in my opinion, have yet to be bettered, when factoring in his minimal use of gear and the manner in which he performed his lifts. CRAZY strong.
And one of the true pioneers and great champions of strongman.
The man was born to be a freak of size and strength.
I think he had a "stage persona", and then the normal Bill Kazmaier
Although there was the one WSM in a barrel carry, where he almost killed a guy, to win
Fortress, I agree with his "natural ability", but how do you know of his minimal use? How do you know what he took?
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I think he had a "stage persona", and then the normal Bill Kazmaier
Although there was the one WSM in a barrel carry, where he almost killed a guy, to win
Fortress, I agree with his "natural ability", but how do you know of his minimal use? How do you know what he took?
I hate when guys say that. ::)
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I think he had a "stage persona", and then the normal Bill Kazmaier
Although there was the one WSM in a barrel carry, where he almost killed a guy, to win
Fortress, I agree with his "natural ability", but how do you know of his minimal use? How do you know what he took?
No, I mean SUPPORT gear, not drug gear.
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No, I mean SUPPORT gear, not drug gear.
how much do you think he could have benched with the proper "support gear"?
i say around 900
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I met Kaz and JPS manytimes during the Scottish games circuits in the late 1980's after I came out the RAF and worked as a recreation officer for a town which held highland games and strongman contests each year. Both were good guys. Kaz was always very quiet after the shows whereas JPS would like having fun in the pubs and restaurants.
It should be remembered that Kaz was still just in his 20's when he won his third and final WSM 1982. When he came back to face JPS in 1988 after his 6 year ban he was a shadow of his former self and had all sorts of injuries. He would not have been beaten 1983-87 if he had been allowed to compete.
That fat fuck Geoff Capes (who is a total kunt by the way) would never have won his titles without Kaz being suspended all these years. Why was Kaz suspended? Because Dougie Edmunds liked Capes and used him for promotions and needed Kaz out the way. Later on Edmunds took a shine to JPS who lived with Edmunds in Scotland for months each year. As Dougie Edmunds owned WSM he made the rules.
Rumour is that Kaz slapped Edmunds in front of his wife late 1982 after Edmunds called him an ugly redneck bastard. Edmunds is a big kunt but was not going to fight Kaz hence a fallout followed by the ban.
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I met Kaz and JPS manytimes during the Scottish games circuits in the late 1980's after I came out the RAF and worked as a recreation officer for a town which held highland games and strongman contests each year. Both were good guys. Kaz was always very quiet after the shows whereas JPS would like having fun in the pubs and restaurants.
It should be remembered that Kaz was still just in his 20's when he won his third and final WSM 1982. When he came back to face JPS in 1988 after his 6 year ban he was a shadow of his former self and had all sorts of injuries. He would not have been beaten 1983-87 if he had been allowed to compete.
That fat fuck Geoff Capes (who is a total kunt by the way) would never have won his titles without Kaz being suspended all these years. Why was Kaz suspended? Because Dougie Edmunds liked Capes and used him for promotions and needed Kaz out the way. Later on Edmunds took a shine to JPS who lived with Edmunds in Scotland for months each year. As Dougie Edmunds owned WSM he made the rules.
Rumour is that Kaz slapped Edmunds in front of his wife late 1982 after Edmunds called him an ugly redneck bastard. Edmunds is a big kunt but was not going to fight Kaz hence a fallout followed by the ban.
Interesting post. Thanks.
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how much do you think he could have benched with the proper "support gear"?
i say around 900
Very difficult to estimate as the shirts (we'd be talking multi-ply, of course) help to wildly varying amounts for each lifter who trains with them. Certainly with proper training in a well-fit one Kaz would have pressed over nine, yes.
Kennelly has the biggest shirted press but wasn't as strong a raw presser as Mendelson, who still holds the record at 715 (despite that lift having no pause, ha, ha). I believe Kaz pressed 660 (raw) and hit six reps with 600 (?). There's that dude on YouTube who is shown pressing six for six, and this (as Kaz apparently did, as well) represents just about the strongest that has been seen on the lift.
FREAK pressing strength.
I believe Kaz could have bested Mendelson's raw record if he hadn't gotten injured. What he could have achieved with the right multi-ply shirt, and proper training using it, is a major guess, at best.
But definitely nine, yeah.
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No, I mean SUPPORT gear, not drug gear.
Oh, shirts and suits...
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I met Kaz and JPS manytimes during the Scottish games circuits in the late 1980's after I came out the RAF and worked as a recreation officer for a town which held highland games and strongman contests each year. Both were good guys. Kaz was always very quiet after the shows whereas JPS would like having fun in the pubs and restaurants.
It should be remembered that Kaz was still just in his 20's when he won his third and final WSM 1982. When he came back to face JPS in 1988 after his 6 year ban he was a shadow of his former self and had all sorts of injuries. He would not have been beaten 1983-87 if he had been allowed to compete.
That fat fuck Geoff Capes (who is a total kunt by the way) would never have won his titles without Kaz being suspended all these years. Why was Kaz suspended? Because Dougie Edmunds liked Capes and used him for promotions and needed Kaz out the way. Later on Edmunds took a shine to JPS who lived with Edmunds in Scotland for months each year. As Dougie Edmunds owned WSM he made the rules.
Rumour is that Kaz slapped Edmunds in front of his wife late 1982 after Edmunds called him an ugly redneck bastard. Edmunds is a big kunt but was not going to fight Kaz hence a fallout followed by the ban.
Thanks for sharing
So, Kaz got the shaft. One does hear a lot of negative things about Capes. In WSM he comes of as a bit of a tool.
JPS was also pretty young when he 1st competed (NZ, I think)?
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Kaz always beat Jon-Pall on the dead lift and log press.
By 1990 Jon-Pall looked really burnt out, he would've never beaten Magnus Ver Magnusson either.
The guy Kaz almost killed was a young Magnus during a medley event. Kaz was acting like a total dick during that event.
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Kaz always beat Jon-Pall on the dead lift and log press.
By 1990 Jon-Pall looked really burnt out, he would've never beaten Magnus Ver Magnusson either.
The guy Kaz almost killed was a young Magnus during a medley event. Kaz was acting like a total dick during that event.
Hahaha no he didn't monkey brains obama boy,
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his all-time best bp was 660, with the right shirt he could have put up 900 pounds or so
blood pressure?
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blood pressure?
;D ;D ;D
maybe that should be the new question/catch phrase?
not "whatda ya bench?" but "what's your blood pressure?" lol
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;D ;D ;D
maybe that should be the new question/catch phrase?
not "whatda ya bench?" but "what's your blood pressure?" lol
Kaz doesn't know whether to laugh or be sad at your joke.
(http://franticplanet.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/kazface.gif).
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blood pressure?
Lol, that's another story altogether...
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He is a beast no matter what time period he is in
Yip sure was the Man was Massive and then some
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Whatever happened to that other dude, Ed Coenen or something? I remember seeing photos of him on Flex. He was doing grip training with like 315 on the bar.
Ed Coan was the name. Failed some drug tests apparently.
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Kaz is the man.
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(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546325_267860516629148_1877427977_n.jpg)
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Whatever happened to that other dude, Ed Coenen or something? I remember seeing photos of him on Flex. He was doing grip training with like 315 on the bar.
Ed Coan was the name. Failed some drug tests apparently.
Coan is still around, more in a mentoring role now I suppose. Still very strong, but he's had lots of injures, including hip replacements.
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Whatever happened to that other dude, Ed Coenen or something? I remember seeing photos of him on Flex. He was doing grip training with like 315 on the bar.
Ed Coan was the name. Failed some drug tests apparently.
Coan, another German surname 8) 8) 8)
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That...thats insane. 485 x 23 :'(
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That...thats insane. 485 x 23 :'(
check the depth, and stance, its not even a PL type squat
man was born for squatting
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check the depth, and stance, its not even a PL type squat
man was born for squatting
not quite
the perfect structure for squatting is short legs with a longs torso and wide hips
his hips are fairly wide, but he doesn't really have the short legs and long torso thing going on
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not quite
the perfect structure for squatting is short legs with a longs torso and wide hips
his hips are fairly wide, but he doesn't really have the short legs and long torso thing going on
yes, I understand that
but I didnt say he had perfect bio-mechanics for squatting
I said he was "born for squatting" because he made it look easy, and was obviously good at it, and the superhuman legs..
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He came into a strip club i was working at back in Monroe, Michigan (Alcatraz....loved that job). He was BIG!!! Head, hands, chest...Man was a monster.
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Whatever happened to that other dude, Ed Coenen or something? I remember seeing photos of him on Flex. He was doing grip training with like 315 on the bar.
Ed Coan was the name. Failed some drug tests apparently.
Likely the overall greatest powerlifter of all time. He's retired. Tonnes of injuries and too many offenses pertaining to failed drug tests.
Dude pulled 901 at, like, 219 pounds bodyweight. CRAZY.
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And this is not even REMOTELY at his biggest and strongest. The guy had been retired for several years by this point (heading talent for the now-defunct WBF). But do keep in mind he's wearing a single-ply squat suit here, just to say ...
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Likely the overall greatest powerlifter of all time. He's retired. Tonnes of injuries and too many offenses pertaining to failed drug tests.
Dude pulled 901 at, like, 219 pounds bodyweight. CRAZY.
dont hear much about him anymore.even the smarter powerlifting guys at my gym dont know much about him.go figure
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Ever meet Kaz in person? I have.. Total douche-bag...
One of the best lifters ever, period. But still a douche..
how bad was he? I heard he still answers the phone "Hello, strongest man in the world" or some shiet lol
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Likely the overall greatest powerlifter of all time. He's retired. Tonnes of injuries and too many offenses pertaining to failed drug tests.
Dude pulled 901 at, like, 219 pounds bodyweight. CRAZY.
Crazy?
My friends know this guy very well. He is from shit poor family from Poland, he can't even afford proper food not even mentioning steroids. If he ever did anything then dianabol would be everything he could have afforded, but they believe he is natural.
He also benches around 180kg and had 765kg total, raw.
When he wins and owns everything in IPF I would LOVE to see this guy on gear. I would send him cypionate myself for free for fucks sake.
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Crazy?
My friends know this guy very well. He is from shit poor family from Poland, he can't even afford proper food not even mentioning steroids. If he ever did anything then dianabol would be everything he could have afforded, but they believe he is natural.
He also benches around 180kg and had 765kg total, raw.
When he wins and owns everything in IPF I would LOVE to see this guy on gear. I would send him cypionate myself for free for fucks sake.
Yes, crazy.
And perhaps this guy you present (of whom I am aware) is drug-free, but it's questionable.
Regardless, weighing around 220 and pulling over nine is NUTS. The difference between pulling a 750-ish and a nine is staggering.
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how bad was he? I heard he still answers the phone "Hello, strongest man in the world" or some shiet lol
He deserves to do so, as far as I am concerned.
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dont hear much about him anymore.even the smarter powerlifting guys at my gym dont know much about him.go figure
Yeah, it is strange (I've noted the same thing).
I know him. Let's just say he isn't too great when it comes to giving of himself for interviews, etc.
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Yeah, it is strange (I've noted the same thing).
I know him. Let's just say he isn't too great when it comes to giving of himself for interviews, etc.
He's supposed to lack personality but seemed like a good guy from the vids I saw of him around. Pity that
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He's supposed to lack personality but seemed like a good guy from the vids I saw of him around. Pity that
He's a nice guy but can be very smartass.
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The thing about Coan is that he was great across all three lifts -
At 100kg, his best IPF total was -
Squat- 423kg
Bench - 235kg
Deadlift - 377.5kg
Total - 1035Kg
Coan posts at Outlaw Powerlifting and answers thoughtfully if you ask him a question, but he seems like the type of fellow that needs to be close/good friends with you in order to be fun.
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He's all man, though: When he blew both knees during that squat several years ago, he asked the spotters to move his ass off the platform so others could lift.
:D
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The thing about Coan is that he was great across all three lifts -
At 100kg, his best IPF total was -
Squat- 423kg
Bench - 235kg
Deadlift - 377.5kg
Total - 1035Kg
Coan posts at Outlaw Powerlifting and answers thoughtfully if you ask him a question, but he seems like the type of fellow that needs to be close/good friends with you in order to be fun.
Coan's true greatness is apparent when one REALLY knows powerlifting and understands all the facets and performance aspects of his feats. Plus, as you say, he was a freak across all three lifts.
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The thing about Coan is that he was great across all three lifts -
At 100kg, his best IPF total was -
Squat- 423kg
Bench - 235kg
Deadlift - 377.5kg
Total - 1035Kg
Coan posts at Outlaw Powerlifting and answers thoughtfully if you ask him a question, but he seems like the type of fellow that needs to be close/good friends with you in order to be fun.
Unreal numbers
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simply amazing..the power benedikt has is unbelievable...Iceland has some strong ass people
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simply amazing..the power benedikt has is unbelievable...Iceland has some strong ass people
he's beginning to look like kaz.
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that's one strong sumbitch.
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that's one strong sumbitch.
Indeed
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"Regardless, weighing around 220 and pulling over nine is NUTS. The difference between pulling a 750-ish and a nine is staggering."
Truth. Not even in the same galaxy. Like a tight vascular 18" arm vs a tight vascular 21.5" arm. 18's good. 21.5 is legendary.
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"Regardless, weighing around 220 and pulling over nine is NUTS. The difference between pulling a 750-ish and a nine is staggering."
Truth. Not even in the same galaxy. Like a tight vascular 18" arms vs a tight vascular 21.5" arm. 18's good. 21.5 is legendary.
Im already 21+ when pumped, running only 400mg of test/week. and im doing the minimum bbing diet.
i wish the rest of my body would respond that way, would be heading to the olympia
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Amazing Kaz is still alive. Look at the size of his mellon. Its twice the size of Jay Cutler's.
Cutlers face is merely swollen from insulin abuse. Kaz is just a huge dude with barbarian genes.
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I think he had a "stage persona", and then the normal Bill Kazmaier
Although there was the one WSM in a barrel carry, where he almost killed a guy, to win
Fortress, I agree with his "natural ability", but how do you know of his minimal use? How do you know what he took?
you can tell by his build and density that he wasnt a heavy user. and the fact that he stayed big and solid years after he competed.
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you can tell by his build and density that he wasnt a heavy user. and the fact that he stayed big and solid years after he competed.
Well, yes, the man did use quite a lot, but he is a very gifted athlete, regardless.
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in term of phusique only maruis pudz hada better physique than kaz . and junko ahola maybe . . but yes a couple f todays guys are stronger like savickacs .. but they outweight kazmaier by 64 pounds aor so . . some of them even more . they often looks fat .
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in term of phusique only maruis pudz hada better physique than kaz . and junko ahola maybe . . but yes a couple f todays guys are stronger like savickacs .. but they outweight kazmaier by 64 pounds aor so . . some of them even more . they often looks fat .
Sidorchyev has best physique in strongman.
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ok, this thread is deteriorating now.
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Well, yes, the man did use quite a lot, but he is a very gifted athlete, regardless.
sure, i just meant compared to todays athletes. he was absolutely gifted though
'the more money at stake, the more drugs they will take'
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In the early WSM's the guys were big, and as it progressed, bigger and bigger men have appeared over the years
Pudzi and savickas are so different physically and not the biggest guys in the competition, yet both are past winners
Geoff capes was large, but fat, virtaenen was considered "skinny" (not my words), etc
Kaz was 6'3" 330-350lbs ? Shaw is 6'8" ± 415lbs
I think kazmaier would still do well. Physically and mentally strong
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In the early WSM's the guys were big, and as it progressed, bigger and bigger men have appeared over the years
Pudzi and savickas are so different physically and not the biggest guys in the competition, yet both are past winners
Geoff capes was large, but fat, virtaenen was considered "skinny" (not my words), etc
Kaz was 6'3" 330-350lbs ? Shaw is 6'8" ± 415lbs
I think kazmaier would still do well. Physically and mentally strong
how about Ted Van Der Parr? 8)
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how about Ted Van Der Parr? 8)
7 foot 350lbs
How does someone like that fly economy?
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7 foot 350lbs
How does someone like that fly economy?
;D ;D ;D
i have no clue man, but he was/is a pretty handsome fella as well (no homo)
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In the early WSM's the guys were big, and as it progressed, bigger and bigger men have appeared over the years
Pudzi and savickas are so different physically and not the biggest guys in the competition, yet both are past winners
Geoff capes was large, but fat, virtaenen was considered "skinny" (not my words), etc
Kaz was 6'3" 330-350lbs ? Shaw is 6'8" ± 415lbs
I think kazmaier would still do well. Physically and mentally strong
I think he would do good as well. But it really depends on the events and if the athletes train specifically. Dont think too many guys would like the bar bend or wrist roll events these days, but i'd love to see them try it.
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by the way kazmaier . never really for the strongman contests with apparatus . he just used them when competing . he didnt train with them beforehand . so he said . . they are bigger and stronger maybe now but fatter . maruis was lean but kaz was stronger than he was .
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And this is not even REMOTELY at his biggest and strongest. The guy had been retired for several years by this point (heading talent for the now-defunct WBF). But do keep in mind he's wearing a single-ply squat suit here, just to say ...
Even Kaz is impressed and I think he would be a hard guy to impress in the gym. Seems like he could have done a couple more but I see Platz has a wrap around his upper thigh, perhaps an adductor strain? Had one recently and could barely sit on the can, don't know how he could squat.
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perhaps an adductor strain? Had one recently and could barely sit on the can, don't know how he could squat.
Heck, had one about 2 years ago, took an extra 10 minutes to use the can, not to mention use the stairs........
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Even Kaz is impressed and I think he would be a hard guy to impress in the gym. Seems like he could have done a couple more but I see Platz has a wrap around his upper thigh, perhaps an adductor strain? Had one recently and could barely sit on the can, don't know how he could squat.
Platz told me, when he was at his biggest and strongest (mid-'80s), on his worst day he could still squat 600 for 10, Olympic style and ass-to-ankles (he didn't squat any other way).
I believe it was about one month before the '85 O when he squatted 635 for 12. In his style, and with just a belt, this feat is NUTTY.
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Even Kaz is impressed and I think he would be a hard guy to impress in the gym. Seems like he could have done a couple more but I see Platz has a wrap around his upper thigh, perhaps an adductor strain? Had one recently and could barely sit on the can, don't know how he could squat.
Nah, I talked to him about it and he said he just thought it looked cool.
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Platz told me, when he was at his biggest and strongest (mid-'80s), on his worst day he could still squat 600 for 10, Olympic style and ass-to-ankles (he didn't squat any other way).
I believe it was about one month before the '85 O when he squatted 635 for 12. In his style, and with just a belt, this feat is NUTTY.
That is crazy. I've seen pics of him deadlifting some heavy shit too. Wonder why his upper body never caught up to his legs. He would have been freaky if they did.
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That is crazy. I've seen pics of him deadlifting some heavy shit too. Wonder why his upper body never caught up to his legs. He would have been freaky if they did.
There was a time when his upper body wasn't near as lagging as some would suggest. Still ...
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Bill Kazmaier was a very thick man.......Not sure what some of you are thinking!
Probably one of the strongest men to ever walk the earth.
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kaz wss the first SHW WITH GREAT LINES MASSIVE DELTOIDS AND A TAPER . CHEST AND TRAPEZUIS WERE GREAT TOO . . he lacked a bit in grip strength . of couse physique is one thing and strongman is another one . but zydrunas savickacs is too fat to my taste no matter how strong he is . they need a solid base for those overhead lifts .
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WSM starts monday
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Halfthor -
6' 9", 440lbs/200kgs -
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its amazing how some of those people become so talll and heavy . .
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Halfthor -
6' 9", 440lbs/200kgs -
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Wow, seems like a smart guy lol
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zydrunas best log lift is 220 kg 484 pounds . kaz could never go over 390 pounds 20 more years ago . but he was 6o pounds lighter than savickacs and never really trained for the events .
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zydrunas best log lift is 220 kg 484 pounds . kaz could never go over 390 pounds 20 more years ago . but he was 6o pounds lighter than savickacs and never really trained for the events .
I met Kaz in Golds Gym in Sunrise Fl where I used to train about 1989 maybe 1990! He was good freinds with a guy I used to train with! He was about 315 maybe 320. He was fucking huge and dense! Nice guy,he was very quiet in the gym just trained and left! Kaz and Dillet are the two biggest guys I have ever seen in the gym! I saw Ronnie when he took 2nd to Flex at the South Beach Pro 1n 97 , and when he won the Night of Champions in 98! He did not impress me as much as those 2 guys as far as sheer size! Never got to see Ronnie after 99 when he got considerably bigger!
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it seems to me that platz has nothing to do in this thread. he was not a strongman . just good at squats
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it seems to me that platz has nothing to do in this thread. he was not a strongman . just good at squats
and he trained like a fucking beast
Mentzer even said that Platz was the most intense trainer he'd ever seen, even more intense than him and Casey V
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He is a beast no matter what time period he is in
Absolutely!
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I met Bill 2 years ago in Traverse City, Mi. He was promoting a line of gym equipment that a buddy of mine uses in his gym. I think he said he was 56 -? still BIG, thick, hands were the size of catcher mitts ? Really nice guy, soft spoken, VERY religious now, big time Christian etc... was still a solid 6'1 or 6'2 tall.
If he had todays competition to compete against AND training today I think is better than his era, he could still win, would probably need to be heavier though - he was what 330 and now guys are coming in at 400? His pressing was insane, pretty much a flat back bench press with not a lot of leg drive, strong dude !
TRUE LEGEND
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Kaz would have dominated in any era
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how bad was he? I heard he still answers the phone "Hello, strongest man in the world" or some shiet lol
Hahaha I literally lol'd at the thought of this
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(http://i.imgur.com/DJiDnSk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9LxnbM1.jpg)
Pretty big, I suppose...
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I've met him and he was very cool with me. Maybe you met him on a bad day. We all have 'em. (For what it's worth, my good friend lived not too far from him several years ago and would see him frequently out and about. Says he was always nice to him, too.)
Anyway ...
Bill is my all-time fave strong man. His powerlifting feats, in my opinion, have yet to be bettered, when factoring in his minimal use of gear and the manner in which he performed his lifts. CRAZY strong.
And one of the true pioneers and great champions of strongman.
The man was born to be a freak of size and strength.
I realize this goes years back and all, but weren't you the gent who reported Kaz's weird spiel about "beams of light shooting out of his head" or the like?
I mean, I know who you are/were in the bodybuilding publications: Rob Fortney. Even though you have a spat with one of the coolest Getbiggers around IMO, my man Wild Willie, I also know you're a decent dude (so is Willie, BTW; y'all just hit it off on the wrong hoof I think).
I could've sworn, or could swear, it was you that said that of Kaz. Now, I'm perhaps a little drunk -- celebration tonight, what can I say? -- but I'm also cogent enough to recall how a fellow with an almost identical writing style "marveled" at how someone Nasser's size struggled mightily with 315 on a standard BB incline.
I think marveled was the word. My photographic memory has lots of splotches, false images and instances of extremely poor focus, particularly when everyone around me is urging me on to join them in just one more Heineken. Ah, so cold, so good. Plus, it lessens the impending impact of my ball and chain, who will be here in probably <30 min. ;)
Shhhh. That's strictly Getbigger talk! :D
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Kaz would really bury his powerlifting squats. If he did them as shallow as what is allowed now he could have added another 200lbs on his squats.
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He had the raw strength base to stay relevant even with todays strongman. If he trained(event specific) and drugged (hgh and slin) like modern competitors he would see the podium.
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Kaz would really bury his powerlifting squats. If he did them as shallow as what is allowed now he could have added another 200lbs on his squats.
Also look how upright he is with his squats. Not a goodmorning squat like todays powerlifters.
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Still a pansy in my book. Strong, but never dieted down and put on the trunks.
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Ever meet Kaz in person? I have.. Total douche-bag...
One of the best lifters ever, period. But still a douche..
::) Yes he is . Funny thing is for all his arrogance he couldn't lick a postage stamp . Have you seen him try the fighting game ?
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I realize this goes years back and all, but weren't you the gent who reported Kaz's weird spiel about "beams of light shooting out of his head" or the like?
I mean, I know who you are/were in the bodybuilding publications: Rob Fortney. Even though you have a spat with one of the coolest Getbiggers around IMO, my man Wild Willie, I also know you're a decent dude (so is Willie, BTW; y'all just hit it off on the wrong hoof I think).
I could've sworn, or could swear, it was you that said that of Kaz. Now, I'm perhaps a little drunk -- celebration tonight, what can I say? -- but I'm also cogent enough to recall how a fellow with an almost identical writing style "marveled" at how someone Nasser's size struggled mightily with 315 on a standard BB incline.
I think marveled was the word. My photographic memory has lots of splotches, false images and instances of extremely poor focus, particularly when everyone around me is urging me on to join them in just one more Heineken. Ah, so cold, so good. Plus, it lessens the impending impact of my ball and chain, who will be here in probably <30 min. ;)
Shhhh. That's strictly Getbigger talk! :D
Yep, that was me, all right. Kaz was talking about something kinda out of my realm of identification at that particular moment (you are correct: something about light from above helping pull him up or some such thing), but he was a great guy and very friendly.
And yeah, Nasser was pitiful in regards to strength ... at least when I watched/spotted him train.
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Kaz isn't horrible, he's just odd. One time you might get a very standoffish Kaz, other times you'll get a Kaz that will talk your ear off on a subject. No rhyme or reason to it.
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i think he is a great but his homosexuality put me off him to say the least. worst kept secret in WSM- him and geoff capes were as bad as each other
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Lol
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Professional Powerlifting ;D
Lol
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i think he is a great but his homosexuality put me off him to say the least. worst kept secret in WSM- him and geoff capes were as bad as each other
no way was bill gay
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i think he is a great but his homosexuality put me off him to say the least. worst kept secret in WSM- him and geoff capes were as bad as each other
Never heard a whisper or anything about this.
Would you care to explain or expand on your
comments.
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Records have "long been broken"?? His raw PL numbers are still not far off what the current records are.
- He is wearing a "suit" for the squats, bench and DL were raw.
Guy was massively strong. If he was still in his prime today with the access athletes now have to strongman equipment, no doubt in my mind he'd still be winning titles. A true legend.
my friend was there and saw it live.he shook hands with kaz and said it was the biggest hands he ever seen
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I think Kaz would dominate today in much the same way Arnold would. They are who they are. Champions. And for the record, WSM is a fantastic sport. Those men are real strength athletes.
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Strong but no fucking way did he curl 400lbs!
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Strong but no fucking way did he curl 400lbs!
Yeah, that's not happening. Over the years it's changed in descriptions too, it use to be mid #300's for a cheat curl, then it was #400ish, now they've got it up to #440 in 1985, but I've never seen a reliable reference to it.
I think if it's ever picked apart, I think there will be some truth to it, but nowhere close #400+, it'll be something like a mid #300's Power Curl, which in turn, is more like a reverse grip Power Clean.
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Seeing as how this thread has popped up again,i wonder how many know that this years WSM contest was held a couple of weeks ago,instead of later in the year like it normally appears.I won`t post any results in case it spolis it for some.
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kaz did drugs too. went from 275 pounds to 317 pounds in one year between 1978 and 1979 . anyway to my taste strongman is too much aerobic
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i think he is a great but his homosexuality put me off him to say the least. worst kept secret in WSM- him and geoff capes were as bad as each other
I don't think Bill is gay. It's possible he is not interested in sex at all. He certainly didn't make a move on the ladies at the barbeques held in Scotland during the late 80's after the Highland games but on the other hand he didn't pursue any men either.
As for Geoff Capes, he is the biggest bullying kunt of all time. Back in the Britain's Strongest Man contest around 1980 he complained about every event and tried to bully the judges into changing decisions for the first few events. Pat Roach (6 ft 5, 270lb, judo black belt, pro wrestler and later movie hard man) was also competing and eventually lost the rag with Geoff and politely offered him extreme violence if he didn't shut the fuck up. Big hard bullying policeman Geoff did not utter another complaint for the duration.
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Capes turned down a large offer to fight Lenny Mclean in an all in
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Capes turned down a large offer to fight Lenny Mclean in an all in
That makes sense. The bully who is not so tough when he's up against someone not afraid of him or when he's not in his police uniform.
I would loved to have seen Lenny slap the shit out of him.
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That makes sense. The bully who is not so tough when he's up against someone not afraid of him or when he's not in his police uniform.
I would loved to have seen Lenny slap the shit out of him.
goes for most bullies
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I don't think Bill is gay. It's possible he is not interested in sex at all. He certainly didn't make a move on the ladies at the barbeques held in Scotland during the late 80's after the Highland games but on the other hand he didn't pursue any men either.
As for Geoff Capes, he is the biggest bullying kunt of all time. Back in the Britain's Strongest Man contest around 1980 he complained about every event and tried to bully the judges into changing decisions for the first few events. Pat Roach (6 ft 5, 270lb, judo black belt, pro wrestler and later movie hard man) was also competing and eventually lost the rag with Geoff and politely offered him extreme violence if he didn't shut the fuck up. Big hard bullying policeman Geoff did not utter another complaint for the duration.
Fights Connery in Never Say Never Again.
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no way was bill gay
It's true. He turned up at Rick "Grizzly" Brown's hotel room one night steaming drunk, wearing only knee high socks and a horse tail butt plug.
The World's Strongest Man authorities covered this up, obviously.
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It's true. He turned up at Rick "Grizzly" Brown's hotel room one night steaming drunk, wearing only knee high socks and a horse tail butt plug.
The World's Strongest Man authorities covered this up, obviously.
This is not true. Bill did not compete during the time Grizzly was representing USA and indeed Bill hated Grizzly as a strongman. He called Grizzly a "fat clown" who made a mockery of the US strongman scene as he was such a crap strongman.
I think Grizzly was last in almost every event in the WSM in mid 1980's while Bill sat at home uninvited.
Back in the early 2000's the great Jimmy Thomson was a member of a strongman website and Grizzly was a member too. All the other members posted nice things about Grizzly and licked his arse but Jimmy told it straight and on new years day 2002 he reminded Grizzly that he was a joke who was the worst strongman ever to compete in WSM. The other members were shocked and came to Grizzly's defence. Grizzly didn't need defending for long because he died of a heart attack within 24 hours of Jimmy's post.
Probably the last thing the poor guy read before his blood pressure skyrocketed.
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This is not true. Bill did not compete during the time Grizzly was representing USA and indeed Bill hated Grizzly as a strongman. He called Grizzly a "fat clown" who made a mockery of the US strongman scene as he was such a crap strongman.
I think Grizzly was last in almost every event in the WSM in mid 1980's while Bill sat at home uninvited.
Back in the early 2000's the great Jimmy Thomson was a member of a strongman website and Grizzly was a member too. All the other members posted nice things about Grizzly and licked his arse but Jimmy told it straight and on new years day 2002 he reminded Grizzly that he was a joke who was the worst strongman ever to compete in WSM. The other members were shocked and came to Grizzly's defence. Grizzly didn't need defending for long because he died of a heart attack within 24 hours of Jimmy's post.
Probably the last thing the poor guy read before his blood pressure skyrocketed.
What happened to the great Jimmy? His stories about robby robinson getting bummed by a cheetah and Franco having to dress like a schoolboy were awesome.
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Fights Connery in Never Say Never Again.
Even more famously fought Harrison Ford in both Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Temple of Doom.
They slapped on some brown make up to make him look Sikh in the latter. :D
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Lol
:D We got a shabozzle! Arcidi was wide and thick as fuck!
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Even more famously fought Harrison Ford in both Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Temple of Doom.
They slapped on some brown make up to make him look Sikh in the latter. :D
And most famous of all, he fought Arnold in Conan the Destroyer (I think) while dressed as a lizard man.
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savickacs is the best for now but outweight kaz by 60 pounds . kaz was great . ask marius pudz to seat press 450 pounds 3 reps and bench 661 . . .
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Kaz would still be a force, he would adjust training, drugs, get heavier etc...
He was so dominant - he won it all one year- 1980?- by over 20 points I think
Athletes do get bigger, stronger, faster every generation, everybody knows that but still cool to wonder " what if '
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