Help me out

[Shraded]

Okay, so I turned 24 a month back and have decided to take venture into the other line of sups.  Been training for almost 14 years- been bodybuilding training in an actual gym since I was 13.  I'm currently 5'7 195-198 year around, been at this weight for around 3 years- i can not eat jack- or stuff my face and pound beers my weight stays right there.  Honestly, I use to be against AAS- however after training my butt off consistantly and just not seeing any more progress in 3 years size wise, i'm not as biased. 

Most recently I decided to try AAS.  The people i have in my corner seem to be pretty knowledgable and are suggesting 1-1.5 CC's of EQ and Test E a week for 14 weeks.  However, some others say that is very minimal.  Sound like a resonable run?

Thx

[wes mantooth]

500mgs of test enan or cyp a week
400mgs of bolderone (eq) a week

split into shots twice a week

12 weeks


done

[Shraded]

Cool cool- thanks for the advice

[Arnold jr]

500mgs of test enan or cyp a week
400mgs of bolderone (eq) a week

split into shots twice a week

12 weeks


done

This would be fine. Also, check out the sticky at the top of the page that deals with 1st time use.

[Shraded]

Wow- right there in front of my face    haha  Thx- that was helpful info

[Rimbaud]

500mgs of test enan or cyp a week
400mgs of bolderone (eq) a week

split into shots twice a week

12 weeks


done

While I like that I would suggest just sticking with plain old Test for the first time around.

[Shraded]

Well, i don't know if you can quite compare, however i tried both M1T and superdrol when i wasn't gaining anymore weight naturally- didn't gain a pound.  Cals were high, i promise you i train my arse off 24/7 just nothing- I think i might have pretty damn high natural levels.

[on one]

why did you recommend test and eq for him and not deca/test just curious

[Shraded]

I'm getting EQ and Test E, for the record.   

[4thAD]

test only for first cycle maybe with some dbol, or tbol. Also lots of board education. Learn all you can on proper HCG use and PCT! If you don't know what PCT is you will need to do lots more reading before you venture into the dark side. Don't feel like I'm not being helpful cause we will all help educate you all we can, but its your job to do the foot work!

[Shraded]

Thanks for the input- yes, i've read up on Clomid, Nov, HCG etc.. I have been debating using for years so i analyzed the hell out of it all.  But, reading drug profiles and such isn't as helpful as personal experince IMO...  And fortunatley I have a good friend who's used for years and is very knowledgable- however lives in another state.  I appreciate all the feedback from everyone. Thanks again!

[wes mantooth]

why did you recommend test and eq for him and not deca/test just curious

because i dont like deca....

and he already said "eq" in his post...

[Rimbaud]

why did you recommend test and eq for him and not deca/test just curious

Maybe he favors EQ over Deca...I personally do.

[on one]

why dont you like deca i was gonna try it in my next cycle with test e or sus for a bulking

[Tough old man]

Okay, so I turned 24 a month back and have decided to take venture into the other line of sups.  Been training for almost 14 years- been bodybuilding training in an actual gym since I was 13.  I'm currently 5'7 195-198 year around, been at this weight for around 3 years- i can not eat jack- or stuff my face and pound beers my weight stays right there.  Honestly, I use to be against AAS- however after training my butt off consistantly and just not seeing any more progress in 3 years size wise, i'm not as biased. 

Most recently I decided to try AAS.  The people i have in my corner seem to be pretty knowledgable and are suggesting 1-1.5 CC's of EQ and Test E a week for 14 weeks.  However, some others say that is very minimal.  Sound like a resonable run?

Thx

Just stick to one compound..Use some form of Test @ 500 mgs for 8-10 weeks...There is no need to add another compound in there for your first cycle..If you start adding now all you'll have to look for is upping the doses to quickly to keep gaining..

Cycle 1...Test E @ 500 mgs  / EW
Cycle 2...Test E @ 500 mgs / EW plus D-bol @ 25 mgs / ED
Cycle 3...Test E @ 750 mgs / EW
Cycle 4...Test E @ 750 mgs / EW plus D-bol @ 30 mgs / ED or Deca @ 400
mgs / ew

You want to climb as slowly as you can using the min amount possible to achieve your gains..


T.O.M

[krazee]

Maybe he favors EQ over Deca...I personally do.

Second that, also to add my 2 cents I would put in Prop before Enth or Cyp. But thats just what works for me. Sometimes it's trial and error, one AAS may work better for you then the next guy...

[wes mantooth]

Second that, also to add my 2 cents I would put in Prop before Enth or Cyp. But thats just what works for me. Sometimes it's trial and error, one AAS may work better for you then the next guy...

i agree...but fuck all that shit for a first time user. too confusing....

i always say run test solo for the first.....there is all the time in the world to make future dream cycles..


well, with all the busts....maybe not

[sempron20]

500mgs of test e. 10-12 wks...nolva/clomid PCT...keep it basic and simple...ull love it

[Shraded]

I thought this thread was dead lol

Thanks for all the feedback everyone- and yes bc of the busts, my order never got placed.  Hopefully soon however.  I am going with the Test E and EQ, then my PCT

For anyone that cares here's where i'm starting from

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=169298.0

[wes mantooth]

damn shraded.....

get ready to find a store that has xxxl shirts...


youre gonna blow the fuck up with a base like that




youre still a midget though!!!! LOL (were about the same height)

[krazee]

Have to state that being short does have some perks in bodybuilding. Good stature for big arms... IMO it sucks having long arms. They always look small no matter what you do.

[Shraded]

Haha! Ya, it sucks esp cuz my pops is 5'11 and all the men in my fam are like 6'+  I started training at 10 with my older bro and by 12 I had already set-up my own trainnig split.  Def think i stunted some growth- but yes, if i was taller I don't think I would have been able to put on as much base size. 

I currently wear XL or XXL's- like fucking night gowns haha 

[wes mantooth]

I currently wear XL or XXL's- like fucking night gowns haha 

ha ha!!! i hear ya...i feel like a jackass because my shirts come down to my midget knees!!!! better that then the 165 mass monters in underarmour i guess

[Shraded]

And a TAPOUT shirt with the sleeves cut-off over it    I f'n hate underarmor, it was cool when they first came out and I was still playing HS football, they only made two kinds of shirts, the only color was white, and nobody knew wtf underarmor was 

[wes mantooth]

And a TAPOUT shirt with the sleeves cut-off over it    I f'n hate underarmor, it was cool when they first came out and I was still playing HS football, they only made two kinds of shirts, the only color was white, and nobody knew wtf underarmor was 

yeah, i think people fail to realize that there is a reason why its called UNDERARMOUR!!!  it goes UNDER......


i see these kids now with wifebeaters on, then a shirt with the sleeves cut off...and a slit all the way down to their waist OVER that

i think people really pick out outfits to workout in....i mean we all have our fav shirts...but jesus, i see some great stuff at the gym near the college!!!! young bucks with alot to prove.....

ahhhh...to be young again LOL