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if you're american and do not even intend to vote then fuck off...
if you are planning to vote... and to vote for romney you are either a retard or a racist...
just admit what you are an be proud of it
that's all i ask
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if you're american and do not even intend to vote then fuck off...
if you are planning to vote... and to vote for romney you are either a retard or a racist...
just admit what you are an be proud of it
that's all i ask
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Absolute truth!
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The corn in Romney's shit has more intelligence than the two of you combined...
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That ghetto terrorist communist obama is going down - you know it - everyone knows it
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That ghetto terrorist communist obama is going down - you know it - everyone knows it
who is winning the debate, 33?
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who is winning the debate, 33?
slight edge to romney since obama is slouching and sounding defensive
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who is winning the debate, 33?
It's a wash, and like the last one it will not move the polls. The first one is what mattered and Obama bombed it.
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Romney closing STRONG
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I think Obama stomped him big time tonight.
I think it moves the polls very very slightly... Not more than a point or two towards Obama... Is it enough to win?
The first debate truly made Romney look great...
Won't the real Romney please stand up.
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I think Obama stomped him big time tonight.
I think it moves the polls very very slightly... Not more than a point or two towards Obama... Is it enough to win.
They both had their good points and bad points. I don't think Americans care about foreign policy as much as the economy for this debate to matter much. Obama got stomped on the first debate, which is the one everyone watched and was, unfortunately for the Usurper, the one about the economy.
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I think Obama stomped him big time tonight.
I think it moves the polls very very slightly... Not more than a point or two towards Obama... Is it enough to win?
The first debate truly made Romney look great...
Won't the real Romney please stand up.
Huh???? at best a tie
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we could have predicted what most of us getbiggers would have said about the winner.
if your guy loses, 'it was close or tied'. if you guy wins "it was a blowout".
We'll see what the bulk of america thinks, i suppose.
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we could have predicted what most of us getbiggers would have said about the winner.
if your guy loses, 'it was close or tied'. if you guy wins "it was a blowout".
We'll see what the bulk of america thinks, i suppose.
Haha, yeah. Care to make more shitty predictions like you did after the last one? Funny how you got quiet when the polls didn't move the way you guaranteed they would after the "blowout".
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Barack Obama: "I want to reduce the deficit. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to."
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we could have predicted what most of us getbiggers would have said about the winner.
if your guy loses, 'it was close or tied'. if you guy wins "it was a blowout".
We'll see what the bulk of america thinks, i suppose.
GMAFB - this was a borefest at best.
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That ghetto terrorist communist obama is going down - you know it - everyone knows it
What time did you get into work today, PEA BRAIN? ::)
98,000+ posts...posting ALL DAY EVERY DAY and never leaving his shitty studio apartment
GET A JOB!!! >:(
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Romney didn't earn anything. He waged a dishonest campaign and outspent everyone 20 to 1
Romney is the foil. Anyone not seeing that is delusional. Romney s a piece of shit.
Because they know Romney is a time bomb waiting to blow that will give Obama a second term on a platter.
I fucking hate romney.
Romney's campaign is a complete mess.
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GMAFB - this was a borefest at best.
240 pretty much guaranteed the last debate would erase Romney's lead in the polls, yet it only got larger. Who gives a fuck what that clown has to say about ANYTHING? He's wrong more often than he's right.
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Huh???? at best a tie
Look man... You are just simply an Obama hater... But you have ZERO leg to stand on when it comes to the score.
I'm perfectly fine with either one of them winning... Cause they are BOTH shit.
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FOX News' baer; Romney struggled on Syria argument with an error.
Official time:
Obama 42.11
Romney 41.30
meagan kelly kneepadding romney. "Obama was angry, romney was the happy warrior". She is so funny!
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Look man... You are just simply an Obama hater... But you have ZERO leg to stand on when it comes to the score.
I'm perfectly fine with either one of them winning... Cause they are BOTH shit.
Obama and Romney both pandered and sounded terrible to me.
Romney pandered to pie in the sky nonsense.
Obama flat out lied about his role in the disaster in lybia and egypt that you too ignore.
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Obama and Romney both pandered and sounded terrible to me.
Romney pandered to pie in the sky nonsense.
Obama flat out lied about his role in the disaster in lybia and egypt that you too ignore.
I do not ignore... STOP LYING.
I easily admit his responsibility in Libya, but you are flat out LYING about Egypt... Obama didn't DO SHIT in Libya and you fucking know it.
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I do not ignore... STOP LYING.
I easily admit his responsibility in Libya, but you are flat out LYING about Egypt... Obama didn't DO SHIT in Libya and you fucking know it.
That's debatable. He stuck his nose into Egypt when he shouldn't have. Mubarak was an American ally for decades and it was pretty comical to railroad him like he did while being stupid enough to not realize that the Muslim Brotherhood will be worse than Mubarak.
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I do not ignore... STOP LYING.
I easily admit his responsibility in Libya, but you are flat out LYING about Egypt... Obama didn't DO SHIT in Libya and you fucking know it.
False - we have dozens and dozens of threads on obama's direct role in egypt and what unfolded.
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False - we have dozens and dozens of threads on obama's direct role in egypt and what unfolded.
As stated earlier on another thread, Romney's strategy was to let Obama hang himself. In that regards, he was effective, especially when Obama tried to bring our economy into the picture. Once he did that, Romney (yet again) got medieval on him.
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False - we have dozens and dozens of threads on obama's direct role in egypt and what unfolded.
Dozens and dozens that YOU start and lie in.
That's debatable. He stuck his nose into Egypt when he shouldn't have. Mubarak was an American ally for decades and it was pretty comical to railroad him like he did while being stupid enough to not realize that the Muslim Brotherhood will be worse than Mubarak.
It's not really debatable... Obama "said" things... He didn't bomb anything and he didn't give anyone any money until Mubarak had stepped down.
Obama didn't really do shit... Now I do believe he shouldn't have even said anything, but he didn't do shit.
Let other countries play out however they want it to... It's their business.
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Dozens and dozens that YOU start and lie in.
It's not really debatable... Obama "said" things... He didn't bomb anything and he didn't give anyone any money until Mubarak had stepped down.
Obama didn't really do shit... Now I do believe he shouldn't have even said anything, but he didn't do shit.
Let other countries play out however they want it to... It's their business.
You don't think him telling Mubarak to get out didn't hasten his removal? Especially after pulling a complete 180 in the span of about 48 hours? You're pretty foolish if you believe that. Obama could have stayed out of it and Mubarak likely would've had more leeway to do what he wanted to retain power. As it stands, when your biggest backer tells you to leave then you leave.
Didn't know bombs were the only way to accomplish anything.
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You don't think him telling Mubarak to get out didn't hasten his removal? Especially after pulling a complete 180 in the span of about 48 hours? You're pretty foolish if you believe that. Obama could have stayed out of it and Mubarak likely would've had more leeway to do what he wanted to retain power. As it stands, when your biggest backer tells you to leave then you leave.
Didn't know bombs were the only way to accomplish anything.
Dude, I can tell you to get out of your house all day long... I might even have a tank.
You just gonna listen to me because I said so?
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Dude, I can tell you to get out of your house all day long... I might even have a tank.
You just gonna listen to me because I said so?
When I give you $1 billion in military aid a year and am pretty much your main benefactor, yeah, you're likely to listen.
Terrible analogy.
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When I give you $1 billion in military aid a year and am pretty much your main benefactor, yeah, you're likely to listen.
Terrible analogy.
Not at all... You just didn't like it.
Which is fine.
If all it took for Mubarak to leave was the big nasty president of the USA to say leave, then he was most definitely on his way out.
Even if I give you a billion dollars a year... which isn't true... it went to the country, not Mubarak personally, then if I told you to get out of the US of Nick, and you just listened to me, then that's on you man.
It's not like Obama was going to go in there and roust him out physically... and if he did, then the outcome would have been the same and we wouldn't be having this discussion because I would be agreeing with you.
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Not at all... You just didn't like it.
Which is fine.
If all it took for Mubarak to leave was the big nasty president of the USA to say leave, then he was most definitely on his way out.
Even if I give you a billion dollars a year... which isn't true... it went to the country, not Mubarak personally, then if I told you to get out of the US of Nick, and you just listened to me, then that's on you man.
It's not like Obama was going to go in there and roust him out physically... and if he did, then the outcome would have been the same and we wouldn't be having this discussion because I would be agreeing with you.
It was a terrible analogy because it is nothing like the situation in Egypt.
You don't give me anything and then tell me to get out of my house, of course I'm not going to leave. When the US gives a billion dollars a year in military support (which is going to Mubarak because HE controlled the military in Egypt) and then the US goes and sides with the protesters in Tahrir Square (meaning I'm pulling all support of you), leaving you with no options beyond pulling an Assad in Syria - yeah, you're likely to look at the situation differently. As Mubarak was left with no other option beyond killing his own people (which may have brought US intervention a la Libya), he chose to leave.
Is it really that hard to understand? You're a fool if you think we were giving Mubarak $1+ billion in military aid and not getting any influence out of it.
It's funny because the Saudi Royal Family was quite convinced that Obama played a major role in Mubarak's removal yet you think he didn't. They were so pissed that they actually refused to meet with Hillary or anyone in our government after the fact. But I guess they were wrong, haha. Obama had nothing to do with it.
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It was a terrible analogy because it is nothing like the situation in Egypt.
You don't give me anythingand then tell me to get out of my house, of course I'm going to leave. When the US gives a billion dollars a year in military support (which is going to Mubarak because HE controlled the military in Egypt) and then the US goes and sides with the protesters in Tahrir Square (meaning I'm pulling all support of you), leaving you with no options beyond pulling an Assad in Syria - yeah, you're likely to look at the situation differently. As Mubarak was left with no other option beyond killing his own people (which may have brought US intervention a la Libya), he chose to leave.
Is it really that hard to understand? You're a fool if you think we were giving Mubarak $1+ billion in military aid and not getting any influence out of it.
It's funny because the Saudi Royal Family was quite convinced that Obama played a major role in Mubarak's removal yet you think he didn't.
I didn't realize I care what the Saudi Royal family thought?
I don't give a damn what any of those neanderthals thing... Never have... Won't start now.
I'm not saying some influence wasn't there, but Obama didn't FORCE anyone out and to put the INACTIONS of a person as a reason for an ACTION is just a false pretense.
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I didn't realize I care what the Saudi Royal family thought?
I don't give a damn what any of those neanderthals thing... Never have... Won't start now.
I'm not saying some influence wasn't there, but Obama didn't FORCE anyone out and to put the INACTIONS of a person as a reason for an ACTION is just a false pretense.
I couldn't care less if you care about what they thought. When the House of Saud is so pissed at us that they turn Hillary away then there's usually a good reason for that - and it had to do with Obama railroading Mubarak after claiming he supported him no more than 48 hours before that.
Obama pulling all support of Mubarak left him with no other option than to leave. Where the USA goes, the world usually follows. Hence he was done the second that happened because he wasn't going to pull a Syria as he probably would have expected a military intervention when in reality pulling an Assad is clearly the right way to go for these guys.
Obama put him in a position where he had no other choice than to either kill everyone or leave.
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It was a terrible analogy because it is nothing like the situation in Egypt.
You don't give me anything and then tell me to get out of my house, of course I'm going to leave. When the US gives a billion dollars a year in military support (which is going to Mubarak because HE controlled the military in Egypt) and then the US goes and sides with the protesters in Tahrir Square (meaning I'm pulling all support of you), leaving you with no options beyond pulling an Assad in Syria - yeah, you're likely to look at the situation differently. As Mubarak was left with no other option beyond killing his own people (which may have brought US intervention a la Libya), he chose to leave.
Is it really that hard to understand? You're a fool if you think we were giving Mubarak $1+ billion in military aid and not getting any influence out of it.
It's funny because the Saudi Royal Family was quite convinced that Obama played a major role in Mubarak's removal yet you think he didn't. They were so pissed that they actually refused to meet with Hillary or anyone in our government after the fact. But I guess they were wrong, haha. Obama had nothing to do with it.
x5 - and yes there is a thread on that
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I couldn't care less if you care about what they thought. When the House of Saud is so pissed at us that they turn Hillary away then there's usually a good reason for that - and it had to do with Obama railroading Mubarak after claiming he supported him no more than 48 hours before that.
Obama pulling all support of Mubarak left him with no other option than to leave. Where the USA goes, the world usually follows. Hence he was done the second that happened because he wasn't going to pull a Syria as he probably would have expected a military intervention when in reality pulling an Assad is clearly the right way to go for these guys.
He should've pulled a Syria.
I've been saying for YEARS that you have to have an iron fist with all of those clowns.
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He should've pulled a Syria.
I've been saying for YEARS that you have to have an iron fist with all of those clowns.
You know I agree 100% with that. For whatever reason Mubarak thought otherwise and ended up in jail where he's slowly dying. Meanwhile, Assad is likely to hold onto power barring a massive change in what's happening on the ground in Syria.
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You know I agree 100% with that. For whatever reason Mubarak thought otherwise and ended up in jail where he's slowly dying. Meanwhile, Assad is likely to hold onto power barring a massive change in what's happening on the ground in Syria.
The best part as that you know nothing will change... We can't afford to go into Syria and he knows and so do we.... He's got all the leverage and no one can take it away from him.
He's safe.
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The best part as that you know nothing will change... We can't afford to go into Syria and he knows and so do we.... He's got all the leverage and no one can take it away from him.
He's safe.
Yup. As long as the Ruskies and Irans are willing to bankroll him he'll be fine. Iran has admitted that its QUDS Force is on the ground there, too.
I think the biggest risk right now is that it's on the verge of spilling into Lebanon, which would likely cause it to spiral over into the entire Middle East. Hezbollah has gone active and are both operating on the ground in Syria and launching rockets from their strongholds in Lebanon. One of the most anti-Syrian military men in Lebanon was also killed in a massive car bombing the other day (likely the work of Hezbollah) so shit is definitely getting dicey there.
It's pretty funny actually. It's Al Qaeda versus Hezbollah.
No complaints from me watching these two kill each other off.
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Romney - "China wants a free world".
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Romney - "China wants a free world".
Would romney have a trade war brewing with China on day 1? I dont know if that's a good or bad thing.
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Would romney have a trade war brewing with China on day 1? I dont know if that's a good or bad thing.
Bad
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I do not ignore... STOP LYING.
I easily admit his responsibility in Libya, but you are flat out LYING about Egypt... Obama didn't DO SHIT in Libya and you fucking know it.
No. You do ignore everything that has gone wrong with the Obama administration.
Just wipe lil barry's boy juice from your eyes and you too will be able to see the disaster he has been. Ok? Retard.
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it was interesting seeing a candidate waiting until 2 weeks before the election to swing center so quickly.
Dems are probably happy - if romney wins, not all that much will change. He's very similiar to obama on defense, and he might be a fresh face on the economy.
He's a master at adapting to any position that is popular - nobody can deny that.
If romney loses, this will be a bigger "what the F were we thinking" that in 2008, from GOP voters.
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Romney - "China wants a free world".
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Obama: "Outsourcing is not the way to go"
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He created jobs in foreign country and outsourced many jobs through the stim bill that was supposed to drop the UE to 5.5%
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Obama: "Outsourcing is not the way to go"
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He created jobs in foreign country and many jobs through the stim bill that was supposed to keep drop the UE at 5.5%
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Fisker was given hundreds of millions in loans and they thanked the US by outsourcing their production to Finland. Another gem of an Obama investment. ::)
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No. You do ignore everything that has gone wrong with the Obama administration.
Just wipe lil barry's boy juice from your eyes and you too will be able to see the disaster he has been. Ok? Retard.
You are another fucking clown if that's what you believe... I have stated NUMEROUS things that Obama has sucked shit on.... So you are obviously not reading or you don't comprehend very well.
I have made the list a mile long before in threads so I'm not going to do it now just to stroke your fucked up egeo.
I don't know how many times I can say it, but apparently when it comes to getbig, you're either a republishit or a democrap and you retards can't handle someone who doesn't suck the party dick.
Why don't you move Romney's nut sack from in front of your face before you worry about me.
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I think Obama stomped him big time tonight.
I think it moves the polls very very slightly... Not more than a point or two towards Obama... Is it enough to win?
The first debate truly made Romney look great...
Won't the real Romney please stand up.
that was my impression as well
Obama had clear command of the topics at hand and looke and sounded presidential
At times Romney sounded like a guy just trying to downloand memorized talking points or a student just trying to answer an essay question by just filling a bluebook with as much of the info he had just memorized the night before
Romney's statement about the navy having less boats than in 1916 was just an embarresment and I'm glad Obama didn't let it pass
I agree with you that I doubt it will move the polls much but Obama for the clear win on this debate
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that was my impression as well
Obama had clear command of the topics at hand and looke and sounded presidential
At times Romney sounded like a guy just trying to downloand memorized talking points or a student just trying to answer an essay question by just filling a bluebook with as much of the info he had just memorized the night before
Romney's statement about the navy having less boats than in 1916 was just an embarresment and I'm glad Obama didn't let it pass
I agree with you that I doubt it will move the polls much but Obama for the clear win on this debate
He should have sounded more Presidential... He's the commander-in-chief... He has been there and should know more than a former Governor.
I don't think that's even in question. That's how it works... Just like Obama doesn't have quite the understanding of the economy that Romney has on a personal level.
I'm sure Obama has to ask other people a lot more on the economy than Romney would... Romney would inherently know a lot more just natively due to experience.
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that was my impression as well
Obama had clear command of the topics at hand and looke and sounded presidential
At times Romney sounded like a guy just trying to downloand memorized talking points or a student just trying to answer an essay question by just filling a bluebook with as much of the info he had just memorized the night before
Romney's statement about the navy having less boats than in 1916 was just an embarresment and I'm glad Obama didn't let it pass
I agree with you that I doubt it will move the polls much but Obama for the clear win on this debate
If the polls don't move much (or hardly move at all, as was the case after debate #2), then Obama's "win" was as hollow as a ping-pong ball (without the bounce, of course) AGAIN.
As Chris Wallace of Fox News put it, you'd think Romney was the incumbent and Obama was the challenger, if you'd been on an island for four years and just seen this debate.
Obama's been playing catch-up for nearly three weeks. Even MSNBC's Chuck Todd seems to have it down: Obama's running out of time. And, his strategy to disqualify Romney as commander-in-chief just flopped. If Obama loses, many will point to his blowing that first debate.
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He should have sounded more Presidential... He's the commander-in-chief... He has been there and should know more than a former Governor.
I don't think that's even in question. That's how it works... Just like Obama doesn't have quite the understanding of the economy that Romney has on a personal level.
I'm sure Obama has to ask other people a lot more on the economy than Romney would... Romney would inherently know a lot more just natively due to experience.
they both need to sound presidential and I don't reallyh believe Romney has a better understanding fo the economy. He understands private equity and avoiding taxes but when he started bragging that he understood the economy and cited the Olympics Obama should have pointed out that he would not have been able to turn that around without what was essentially a government bailout. He should have also pointed out that the federal governement is not a business and trying to run it like one would be a disaster. On the other hand Romney's business experience is very similar to how other Repubs approach government. Romney's sole business experience is loading up companies with debt which is exactly what Repubs do when they get in office
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If the polls don't move much (or hardly move at all, as was the case after debate #2), then Obama's "win" was as hollow as a ping-pong ball (without the bounce, of course) AGAIN.
As Chris Wallace of Fox News put it, you'd think Romney was the incumbent and Obama was the challenger, if you'd been on an island for four years and just seen this debate.
Obama's been playing catch-up for nearly three weeks. Even MSNBC's Chuck Todd seems to have it down: Obama's running out of time. And, his strategy to disqualify Romney as commander-in-chief just flopped. If Obama loses, many will point to his blowing that first election.
Chuck Todd said this?
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Chuck Todd said this?
Todd said that Obama has run out of time to disqualify Romney. Since that hasn't worked, I think it's safe to conclude that the strategy flopped.
Here's the article:
MSNBC's Chuck Todd this morning explained that President Obama has run out of time to "disqualify" Mitt Romney, and has to scramble in his remaining weeks to reassert his case for re-election.
"Look, the president's got bigger problems than trying to disqualify Mitt Romney now," he explained on Morning Joe asserting that Obama missed his opportunity in the first debate. "The president has to requalify himself for a second term."
Todd suggested that the Obama campaign's new advertising push is a "closing argument" attempt, but perhaps is a bit late.
"I think they now realize that - two weeks is not enough time to have the conversation with voters that they want to have," Todd said. "He missed his opportunity. He blew it in that first debate."
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2511493#.UIa5vK7TFRu
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Todd said that Obama has run out of time to disqualify Romney. Since that hasn't worked, I think it's safe to conclude that the strategy flopped.
Here's the article:
MSNBC's Chuck Todd this morning explained that President Obama has run out of time to "disqualify" Mitt Romney, and has to scramble in his remaining weeks to reassert his case for re-election.
"Look, the president's got bigger problems than trying to disqualify Mitt Romney now," he explained on Morning Joe asserting that Obama missed his opportunity in the first debate. "The president has to requalify himself for a second term."
Todd suggested that the Obama campaign's new advertising push is a "closing argument" attempt, but perhaps is a bit late.
"I think they now realize that - two weeks is not enough time to have the conversation with voters that they want to have," Todd said. "He missed his opportunity. He blew it in that first debate."
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2511493#.UIa5vK7TFRu
this statements out of context (answer to a question we never heard and nothing before or after the statement) don't really mean much to me
he ended with the comment about Romeny waiting until too late to move to the center and that he should have done it at the convention (though of course that would have been impossible since he doesn't even agree with the Republican platform in key areas)
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You are another fucking clown if that's what you believe... I have stated NUMEROUS things that Obama has sucked shit on.... So you are obviously not reading or you don't comprehend very well.
I have made the list a mile long before in threads so I'm not going to do it now just to stroke your fucked up egeo.
I don't know how many times I can say it, but apparently when it comes to getbig, you're either a republishit or a democrap and you retards can't handle someone who doesn't suck the party dick.
Why don't you move Romney's nut sack from in front of your face before you worry about me.
Looks like I hit a nerve with this bozo.
I shouldn't have stated that you had his juice all over your eyes. HEHEHEHE!!
Blame it on the inflation rate, obama excuser.
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this statements out of context (answer to a question we never heard and nothing before or after the statement) don't really mean much to me
he ended with the comment about Romeny waiting until too late to move to the center and that he should have done it at the convention (though of course that would have been impossible since he doesn't even agree with the Republican platform in key areas)
I know that. What he said was, IF Obama loses, people will point to him getting killed in the first debate. IF Romney loses, they will say he didn't move to the center fast enough.
Considering how the polls have been trending, both national and state-by-state, the former scenario seems to be more likely than the latter.
Obama has spent most of his time and hundreds of millions of dollars, trying to paint Romney as some monster, unworthy of the Oval Office. That narrative has crashed and burned, even among those who thought Obama won the last two debates, to the point where Team Obama is YANKING many of their negative ads.
That, unfortunately for Obama, leaves the burden on him to DEFEND his lousy record and explain how we can trust him to do in a second term what he didn't do in his first term.
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I know that. What he said was, IF Obama loses, people will point to him getting killed in the first debate. IF Romney loses, they will say he didn't move to the center fast enough. Considering how the polls have been trending, both national and state-by-state, the former scenario seems to be more likely than the latter.
just last month the Repubs were telling us how the polls (then favoring Obama weren't accurate)
At this point all that's left is the ground game and the paperwork
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just last month the Repubs were telling us how the polls (then favoring Obama weren't accurate)
At this point all that's left is the ground game and the paperwork
I addressed that earlier. Those polls were oversampling Democrats, in many cases, by nine points or more.
I showed example of a poll in Florida that did just that. Florida's voter demographic was 37% Dem and 34% GOP in 2008; it was dead even in 2010. Do you really think the Dems are going to have a NINE-POINT advantage in 2012?
It was also pointed out that, as the election grew closer, the election would tighten and go Romney's way. The polls would STOP using registered voters and use almost exclusively likely voters. And the oversampling of Dems would greatly diminished.
Again, when you can point to some polls that oversample Republicans by 9 or more, you'd have a case to make.
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Look at you dipshits. LOL!!! Mitt can get away with ignoring, insulting, and contradicting his right and his supporters, because he knows they have nowhere to go. Hahaha... he's it. You don't have another choice. But after "using" them to get the nomination, his current callous disregard for them should tell you all you need to know about Mitt.
You are stuck with a candidate that no one even liked at the beginning of the primaries. Now all of you are swinging from his magical underwear.
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Look at you dipshits. LOL!!! Mitt can get away with ignoring, insulting, and contradicting his right and his supporters, because he knows they have nowhere to go. Hahaha... he's it. You don't have another choice. But after "using" them to get the nomination, his current callous disregard for them should tell you all you need to know about Mitt.
You are stuck with a candidate that no one even liked at the beginning of the primaries. Now all of you are swinging from his magical underwear.
And this is different from Obama how? Neither his base nor the majority of the country likes him anymore (and they haven't for a while). He continues to do whatever he wants, regardless of public opinion.
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just last month the Repubs were telling us how the polls (then favoring Obama weren't accurate)
At this point all that's left is the ground game and the paperwork
You really are dumb.
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Look at you dipshits. LOL!!! Mitt can get away with ignoring, insulting, and contradicting his right and his supporters, because he knows they have nowhere to go. Hahaha... he's it. You don't have another choice. But after "using" them to get the nomination, his current callous disregard for them should tell you all you need to know about Mitt.
You are stuck with a candidate that no one even liked at the beginning of the primaries. Now all of you are swinging from his magical underwear.
Look at you left-winged screwballs like you. You drank the Obama kool-aid in 2008 and are now watching Mr. Hope-and-Change crumble before your very eyes.
Obama spent HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars, trying to smear Romney; yet, he has stood tall, knocked all of those bogus attacks back, and has been cruising, ever since slapping the taste out Obama's mouth on Oct. 3
Romney did in ONE DEBATE what Obama and Biden couldn't do in THREE. And, now, the lefty goof troopers like you have gone from breaking out the champagne last month, to having to break out the Maalox THIS MONTH.
And, if this keeps up, the beating Obama takes in two weeks will make 2010 look like a Jell-O wrestling match.
I'm fine with Romney getting the nomination. The survivor of the "worst field in GOP history" has been manhandling the anointed and brilliant Obama on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
And if Obama doesn't pull a rabbit out of his hat...and do so FAST....he and his wife will be drinking with Jay-Z and Beyonce but for much different reasons.
As I said elsewhere, you and the other TK members better join Chris Matthews and get all the thrills up your legs NOW, while you can. Because, if Obama keeps this up, it's all over in 14 days.
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And this is different from Obama how? Neither his base nor the majority of the country likes him anymore (and they haven't for a while). He continues to do whatever he wants, regardless of public opinion.
And the last time he did that was with ObamaCare. The Dems got clobbered as a result.
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I addressed that earlier. Those polls were oversampling Democrats, in many cases, by nine points or more.
I showed example of a poll in Florida that did just that. Florida's voter demographic was 37% Dem and 34% GOP in 2008; it was dead even in 2010. Do you really think the Dems are going to have a NINE-POINT advantage in 2012?
It was also pointed out that, as the election grew closer, the election would tighten and go Romney's way. The polls would STOP using registered voters and use almost exclusively likely voters. And the oversampling of Dems would greatly diminished.
Again, when you can point to some polls that oversample Republicans by 9 or more, you'd have a case to make.
yep and those arguments have been refuted many times and I could post all the articles but honestly who really gives a shit at this point
it's all moot at this point
all that matters now are actual votes and I'd be happy if the election were today but unfortunately we still have to wait a few more weeks
on the plus side, I guess that gives Romney time to explain why he just disavowed half of the things he claimed to believe just a few weeks ago
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You really are dumb.
what part of those two sentences I wrote do you think is false
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what part of those two sentences I wrote do you think is false
The polls that showed obama up were based on democrat oversampling based on ridiculous turnout models that no one believes will happen.
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The polls that showed obama up were based on democrat oversampling based on ridiculous turnout models that no one believes will happen.
again, I can post all the articles that refute that argument but who cares at this point
btw - do you think the pollsters decided to just stop oversampling after the first debate.....of course not
the methodolgy is the same now as it was then
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again, I can post all the articles that refute that argument but who cares at this point
btw - do you think the pollsters decided to just stop oversampling after the first debate.....of course not
the methodolgy is the same now as it was then
Hardly!!
In that same post, Silver touts a “SurveyUSA poll showing Mr. Obama with a one-point lead in Florida is really the slightly better result for him.” That SurveyUSA poll indeed had Obama up by one point, but had a Democratic party-ID advantage of nine points. In 2008 Democrats had a three-point advantage, and in 2010 the parties were even. So the SurveyUSA poll is good news only if you believe Democrats will not only improve on their 2008 turnout, but triple their turnout advantage over Republicans.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331192/nate-silver-s-flawed-model-josh-jordan
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Hardly!!
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331192/nate-silver-s-flawed-model-josh-jordan
oh wow you have a link supporting your belief
would it make any difference to you if I posted links that support the opposite
if you want to believe that the polls oversampled Dems before and are not doing so now then feel free
I'm sure you believe Romney is going to win
I believ that Obama will win
We'll know which one of us is correct in a few more weeks
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oh wow you have a link supporting your belief
would it make any difference to you if I posted links that support the opposite
if you want to believe that the polls oversampled Dems before and are not doing so now then feel free
I'm sure you believe Romney is going to win
I believ that Obama will win
We'll know which one of us is correct in a few more weeks
Why do you think Obama will win?
Gallup is showing landslide
Ras showing growing lead
States are mostly improving for mittens.
Obama is closing WEAK
The debates have only helped Romney as obama is still trying to shore up his base.
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Why do you think Obama will win?
Gallup is showing landslide
Ras showing growing lead
States are mostly improving for mittens.
Obama is closing WEAK
The debates have only helped Romney as obama is still trying to shore up his base.
I've stated my belief so we'll just have to wait to see what happens
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Why do you think Obama will win?
Gallup is showing landslide
Ras showing growing lead
States are mostly improving for mittens.
Obama is closing WEAK
The debates have only helped Romney as obama is still trying to shore up his base.
If the election was held TODAY, I think obama would win.
If the TREND continues - obama keeps trending down and romney keeps up this slow rise - Romney will win.
It's all about the power of the incumbency - if Obama starts a war or the dems drop some bombshell, or if Trump's supposed bombshell is real, etc... THOSE are the things which could change the eleciton. Remember bin laden endorsing Kerry 5 minutes before the 2004 election? Or the hostage shit in 1980? Stranger things have happened.
personally, I think in this high tech world of opportunity, Obama has had his fun and is ready to be president of UN or king of europe or some nonsense... ready to retire and make $100 mil a year working for a thinktank. But the party does like to remain in power.
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If election were today - Romney gets 287 EV by my estimation - by election day 330 as per the U. of Co. studies.
If the election was held TODAY, I think obama would win.
If the TREND continues - obama keeps trending down and romney keeps up this slow rise - Romney will win.
It's all about the power of the incumbency - if Obama starts a war or the dems drop some bombshell, or if Trump's supposed bombshell is real, etc... THOSE are the things which could change the eleciton. Remember bin laden endorsing Kerry 5 minutes before the 2004 election? Or the hostage shit in 1980? &guy things have happened.
personally, I think in this high tech world of opportunity, Obama has had his fun and is ready to be president of UN or king of europe or some nonsense... ready to retire and make $100 mil a year working for a thinktank. But the party does like to remain in power.
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If election were today - Romney gets 287 EV by my estimation - by election day 330 as per the U. of Co. studies.
they're the outlier dude. and early voting has gone obama's way in a big way.
U of Co doesn't match what everyone else is saying dude. I'm in agreement that romney will win on election day - BUT i'm talking TODAY, it would be obama based upon the early voting and the fact he's still ahead - although trending down.
Down to 58% on intrade. confidence is falling. But it'll be in this last 2 weeks that he REALLY appears desperate, with giant moves to pander to swing voters - in which his base will lose faith and common sense voters will give up on him.
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something special happens - in the last week - when the country kinda KNOWS one guy will lose. We saw it in 2008... Mccain KNEW he would lose - so he played out the string, but the enthusiasm wasn't there.
Obama isn't that deflated yet, he was still fuckin with romney on bayonets, etc... BUT he will be there in another week, given the current trend.
He isn't publicly desperate - YET. He probably will be tho.
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If the polls don't move much (or hardly move at all, as was the case after debate #2), then Obama's "win" was as hollow as a ping-pong ball (without the bounce, of course) AGAIN.
As Chris Wallace of Fox News put it, you'd think Romney was the incumbent and Obama was the challenger, if you'd been on an island for four years and just seen this debate.
Obama's been playing catch-up for nearly three weeks. Even MSNBC's Chuck Todd seems to have it down: Obama's running out of time. And, his strategy to disqualify Romney as commander-in-chief just flopped. If Obama loses, many will point to his blowing that first debate.
so you get a lot of your information from fox news it seems?
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One thing that I don't understand is NO ONE talks about the fact that Romney is a fucking die hard Mormon fucking fanatic. That right there is one of the biggest reasons not to vote for the guy. Mormons are a fucked up group of believers. Talk about a wonky fucking religion. Worse than Islam. Even members of Romney's own family have come out saying how bat this religious this guy is. But not a fucking peep out of the mainstream media. Shows you how powerful the Mormon church is. $40+ billion dollars in assets.
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they're the outlier dude. and early voting has gone obama's way in a big way.
U of Co doesn't match what everyone else is saying dude. I'm in agreement that romney will win on election day - BUT i'm talking TODAY, it would be obama based upon the early voting and the fact he's still ahead - although trending down.
Down to 58% on intrade. confidence is falling. But it'll be in this last 2 weeks that he REALLY appears desperate, with giant moves to pander to swing voters - in which his base will lose faith and common sense voters will give up on him.
Early voting makes little difference. The Dems had the early voting edge in 2010 but got slaughtered.
As for the power of the incumbency, that only works IF your record is solid. If your record is WEAK (as that of Obama is) then incumbency works against you, which explains why Obama wants this to be a "choice" election vs. a referendum on him.
As Chris Wallace said last night, if you were on an island for four years and just heard this debate, you'd swear Romney was the current president and Obama the challenger.
Every time Romney hit Obama on his record, Obama got quiet (that's in ALL the debates). Disqualifying Romney or "kill Romney" as a memo of the Obama camp stated, is the president's only hope.
So far, we've had:
Bully-Gate
Dog-Gate
Tax-Gate
Bain-Gate
Steelworker's-wife-dying-of-Cancer-Gate
47%-Gate
Mission-Gate
War-on-women-Gate...just to name a few.
NONE OF THAT HAS WORKED.
Obama's running out of time and his campaign has run out of money. If something drastic doesn't occur, Obama is all but toast.
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so you get a lot of your information from fox news it seems?
I sure do. So what?
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if you're american and do not even intend to vote then fuck off...
if you are planning to vote... and to vote for romney you are either a retard or a racist...
just admit what you are an be proud of it
that's all i ask
My wife and I voted and mailed our ballots within an hour of receiving them last Friday (Oregon has mail in ballots). We both voted for President Obama. Of course we are proud.
I will be working the phones tonight as I do every week night asking others to vote if they haven't already. On Saturday, I am canvassing for Chris Gorsek HD 49 in the Oregon State Legislature http://chrisgorsek.com/ (http://chrisgorsek.com/). Last Saturday, I canvassed for Joe Gallegos HD 30 https://www.facebook.com/JoeGallegosForOregonStateRepresentative#!/JoeGallegosForOregonStateRepresentative/likes (https://www.facebook.com/JoeGallegosForOregonStateRepresentative#!/JoeGallegosForOregonStateRepresentative/likes).
Incidentally, the consensus in the media today is that President Obama won the debate last night....just so you know. If you'd like to weigh in on this poll go here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/who-won-the-debate-_n_1998195.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/who-won-the-debate-_n_1998195.html).
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NONE OF THAT HAS WORKED.
Obama is a failed president in a failed economy, who is leading in OH against an economic genius.
it's working a little.
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Obama's running out of time and his campaign has run out of money. If something drastic doesn't occur, Obama is all but toast.
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I sure do. So what?
you realize that they are the biggest source of disinfo around right? that they say things like the tides come in the tides go out, right? Listen I don't care for any major media source just the facts, but fox has got some really really unsavoury individuals.
Don;t you find it odd that you get your info from a repub christian news station? I mean in the spirit of info wouldn't you find it helpful to get the info from other places?
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you realize that they are the biggest source of disinfo around right? that they say things like the tides come in the tides go out, right? Listen I don't care for any major media source just the facts, but fox has got some really really unsavoury individuals.
Don;t you find it odd that you get your info from a repub christian news station? I mean in the spirit of info wouldn't you find it helpful to get the info from other places?
I get my information from various sources. CNN, the NY Times, Talk Radio, the Daily Beast, RCP, just to name a few.
It's just that people like you get all spun up, at the very mention of Fox News, hardly the biggest source of disinformation.
That's typical liberal-speak from people who are still angry, because the "mainstream" media (and its left-winged bias) no longer monopolize the game.
Your implication, that getting information from a certain source equals getting information SOLELY or primarily from that source, is ludicrous.
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Obama is a failed president in a failed economy, who is leading in OH against an economic genius.
it's working a little.
He's losing his grip; he should have locked up Ohio some time ago.
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I get my information from various sources. CNN, the NY Times, Talk Radio, the Daily Beast, RCP, just to name a few.
It's just that people like you get all spun up, at the very mention of Fox News, hardly the biggest source of disinformation.
That's typical liberal-speak from people who are still angry, because the "mainstream" media (and its left-winged bias) no longer monopolize the game.
Your implication, that getting information from a certain source equals getting information SOLELY or primarily from that source, is ludicrous.
The far left is simply unprepared and unconditioned for battle. They have been coddled and spoon fed for generations and now don't know how to get out of their own way and explain their defeats at every turn
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I get my information from various sources. CNN, the NY Times, Talk Radio, the Daily Beast, RCP, just to name a few.
It's just that people like you get all spun up, at the very mention of Fox News, hardly the biggest source of disinformation.
That's typical liberal-speak from people who are still angry, because the "mainstream" media (and its left-winged bias) no longer monopolize the game.
Your implication, that getting information from a certain source equals getting information SOLELY or primarily from that source, is ludicrous.
What is the biggest source of misinformation then?
If leftwing bias rule the media how do you explain all the republican presidents?
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What is the biggest source of misinformation then?
I don't rate sources of misinformation. I, for the most part, ignore them (and based on their ratings, so do viewers). MSNBC comes to mind as one such source. Although, it's good for a laugh after they try to explain away a devastating loss, such as the Wisconsin recall.
If leftwing bias rule the media how do you explain all the republican presidents?
Easy. The media can only hide liberal sorriness for so long. And, in the end, the American people can sift through the bias (though they shouldn't have to do so).
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FOX is widely regarded worldwide as the network/newsstation with most disinformation.
Is the world lying?
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I get my information from various sources. CNN, the NY Times, Talk Radio, the Daily Beast, RCP, just to name a few.
It's just that people like you get all spun up, at the very mention of Fox News, hardly the biggest source of disinformation.
That's typical liberal-speak from people who are still angry, because the "mainstream" media (and its left-winged bias) no longer monopolize the game.
Your implication, that getting information from a certain source equals getting information SOLELY or primarily from that source, is ludicrous.
It is good that you avail yourself of various news sources. Hopefully, this results in you not forming preconceived opinions which "color" what you are able to comprehend. Unfortunately, there are many people who only seek information that confirms what they already think they know. I know of people who watch nothing but FOX news. I am sure this is true for some liberals too. I just can't think of a News station that seems so completely bias toward the left view as FOX is to the right.
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I get my information from various sources. CNN, the NY Times, Talk Radio, the Daily Beast, RCP, just to name a few.
It's just that people like you get all spun up, at the very mention of Fox News, hardly the biggest source of disinformation.
That's typical liberal-speak from people who are still angry, because the "mainstream" media (and its left-winged bias) no longer monopolize the game.
Your implication, that getting information from a certain source equals getting information SOLELY or primarily from that source, is ludicrous.
I'm not american dude, a bi-partisan study revealed that Fox is in fact the most dishonest news station, it spews the most lies per hour.
I asked if you get a lot of info from them you said I sure do.I didn't make the assumption that you get all your info from them, hence the word a lot rather then all. Comprehension is a issue huh bud?
I understand you are firmly locked in the two-party teamster mindset they want you locked into, but I am not. Obama has shit the bed on a lot of fronts, some things he has done very well. I unlike you try to look at everything not as a liberal or repub but as a conscious person. I guess when other aspects of your life are ruled by an overarching ideology it's easy to slide into others and parrot on.
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One thing that I don't understand is NO ONE talks about the fact that Romney is a fucking die hard Mormon fucking fanatic. That right there is one of the biggest reasons not to vote for the guy. Mormons are a fucked up group of believers. Talk about a wonky fucking religion. Worse than Islam. Even members of Romney's own family have come out saying how bat this religious this guy is. But not a fucking peep out of the mainstream media. Shows you how powerful the Mormon church is. $40+ billion dollars in assets.
Worse than Islam? Hahahahah. Mormons are harmless and Romney's religious affiliation means jack shit to me. Massachusetts didn't turn into a Mormon shithole when he was governor, did it, bedpan cleaner?
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Worse than Islam? Hahahahah. Mormons are harmless and Romney's religious affiliation means jack shit to me. Massachusetts didn't turn into a Mormon shithole when he was governor, did it, bedpan cleaner?
Absolutely valid... Mormon > Muslim.
A lot of people seem to think Obama is a Muslim though... I personally do not... I think he doesn't give a shit about religion on any level to be honest.
He just shows up at churches or whatever to get the God vote.
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Worse than Islam? Hahahahah. Mormons are harmless and Romney's religious affiliation means jack shit to me. Massachusetts didn't turn into a Mormon shithole when he was governor, did it, bedpan cleaner?
Not all Mormons are harmless. In fact not all of any group are harmless. There are good folk and bad no matter where you look. You are right about one thing though, Mitty being Morman should not be an issue either way in this election. However, I suspect it does to some folk.