Romney is a retard appreciation thread

[Straw Man]

He should have sounded more Presidential... He's the commander-in-chief... He has been there and should know more than a former Governor.

I don't think that's even in question. That's how it works... Just like Obama doesn't have quite the understanding of the economy that Romney has on a personal level.

I'm sure Obama has to ask other people a lot more on the economy than Romney would... Romney would inherently know a lot more just natively due to experience.

they both need to sound presidential and I don't reallyh believe Romney has a better understanding fo the economy.    He understands private equity and avoiding taxes but when he started bragging that he understood the economy and cited the Olympics Obama should have pointed out that he would not have been able to turn that around without what was essentially a government bailout.   He should have also pointed out that the federal governement is not a business and trying to run it like one would be a disaster.    On the other hand Romney's business experience is very similar to how other Repubs approach government.   Romney's sole business experience is loading up companies with debt which is exactly what Repubs do when they get in office

[Straw Man]

If the polls don't move much (or hardly move at all, as was the case after debate #2), then Obama's "win" was as hollow as a ping-pong ball (without the bounce, of course) AGAIN.

As Chris Wallace of Fox News put it, you'd think Romney was the incumbent and Obama was the challenger, if you'd been on an island for four years and just seen this debate.

Obama's been playing catch-up for nearly three weeks. Even MSNBC's Chuck Todd seems to have it down: Obama's running out of time. And, his strategy to disqualify Romney as commander-in-chief just flopped. If Obama loses, many will point to his blowing that first election.

Chuck Todd said this?

[MCWAY]

Chuck Todd said this?

Todd said that Obama has run out of time to disqualify Romney. Since that hasn't worked, I think it's safe to conclude that the strategy flopped.

Here's the article:



MSNBC's Chuck Todd this morning explained that President Obama has run out of time to "disqualify" Mitt Romney, and has to scramble in his remaining weeks to reassert his case for re-election.

"Look, the president's got bigger problems than trying to disqualify Mitt Romney now," he explained on Morning Joe asserting that Obama missed his opportunity in the first debate. "The president has to requalify himself for a second term."

Todd suggested that the Obama campaign's new advertising push is a "closing argument" attempt, but perhaps is a bit late.

"I think they now realize that - two weeks is not enough time to have the conversation with voters that they want to have," Todd said. "He missed his opportunity. He blew it in that first debate."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2511493#.UIa5vK7TFRu

[Straw Man]

Todd said that Obama has run out of time to disqualify Romney. Since that hasn't worked, I think it's safe to conclude that the strategy flopped.

Here's the article:



MSNBC's Chuck Todd this morning explained that President Obama has run out of time to "disqualify" Mitt Romney, and has to scramble in his remaining weeks to reassert his case for re-election.

"Look, the president's got bigger problems than trying to disqualify Mitt Romney now," he explained on Morning Joe asserting that Obama missed his opportunity in the first debate. "The president has to requalify himself for a second term."

Todd suggested that the Obama campaign's new advertising push is a "closing argument" attempt, but perhaps is a bit late.

"I think they now realize that - two weeks is not enough time to have the conversation with voters that they want to have," Todd said. "He missed his opportunity. He blew it in that first debate."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2511493#.UIa5vK7TFRu

this statements out of context (answer to a question we never heard and nothing before or after the statement) don't really mean much to me

he ended with the comment about Romeny waiting until too late to move to the center and that he should have done it at the convention (though of course that would have been impossible since he doesn't even agree with the Republican platform in key areas)

[dario73]

You are another fucking clown if that's what you believe... I have stated NUMEROUS things that Obama has sucked shit on.... So you are obviously not reading or you don't comprehend very well.

I have made the list a mile long before in threads so I'm not going to do it now just to stroke your fucked up egeo.

I don't know how many times I can say it, but apparently when it comes to getbig, you're either a republishit or a democrap and you retards can't handle someone who doesn't suck the party dick.

Why don't you move Romney's nut sack from in front of your face before you worry about me.

Looks like I hit a nerve with this bozo.

I shouldn't have stated that you had his juice all over your eyes. HEHEHEHE!!

Blame it on the inflation rate, obama excuser.

[MCWAY]

this statements out of context (answer to a question we never heard and nothing before or after the statement) don't really mean much to me

he ended with the comment about Romeny waiting until too late to move to the center and that he should have done it at the convention (though of course that would have been impossible since he doesn't even agree with the Republican platform in key areas)

I know that. What he said was, IF Obama loses, people will point to him getting killed in the first debate. IF Romney loses, they will say he didn't move to the center fast enough.

Considering how the polls have been trending, both national and state-by-state, the former scenario seems to be more likely than the latter.

Obama has spent most of his time and hundreds of millions of dollars, trying to paint Romney as some monster, unworthy of the Oval Office. That narrative has crashed and burned, even among those who thought Obama won the last two debates, to the point where Team Obama is YANKING many of their negative ads.

That, unfortunately for Obama, leaves the burden on him to DEFEND his lousy record and explain how we can trust him to do in a second term what he didn't do in his first term.

[Straw Man]

I know that. What he said was, IF Obama loses, people will point to him getting killed in the first debate. IF Romney loses, they will say he didn't move to the center fast enough.  Considering how the polls have been trending, both national and state-by-state, the former scenario seems to be more likely than the latter. 

just last month the Repubs were telling us how the polls (then favoring Obama weren't accurate)

At this point all that's left is the ground game and the paperwork

[MCWAY]

just last month the Repubs were telling us how the polls (then favoring Obama weren't accurate)

At this point all that's left is the ground game and the paperwork

I addressed that earlier. Those polls were oversampling Democrats, in many cases, by nine points or more.

I showed example of a poll in Florida that did just that. Florida's voter demographic was 37% Dem and 34% GOP in 2008; it was dead even in 2010. Do you really think the Dems are going to have a NINE-POINT advantage in 2012?

It was also pointed out that, as the election grew closer, the election would tighten and go Romney's way. The polls would STOP using registered voters and use almost exclusively likely voters. And the oversampling of Dems would greatly diminished.

Again, when you can point to some polls that oversample Republicans by 9 or more, you'd have a case to make.

[LurkerNoMore]

Look at you dipshits.  LOL!!!  Mitt can get away with ignoring, insulting, and contradicting his right and his supporters, because he knows they have nowhere to go. Hahaha... he's it.  You don't have another choice.   But after "using" them to get the nomination, his current callous disregard for them should tell you all you need to know about Mitt. 

You are stuck with a candidate that no one even liked at the beginning of the primaries.  Now all of you are swinging from his magical underwear.

[Fury]

Look at you dipshits.  LOL!!!  Mitt can get away with ignoring, insulting, and contradicting his right and his supporters, because he knows they have nowhere to go. Hahaha... he's it.  You don't have another choice.   But after "using" them to get the nomination, his current callous disregard for them should tell you all you need to know about Mitt. 

You are stuck with a candidate that no one even liked at the beginning of the primaries.  Now all of you are swinging from his magical underwear.

And this is different from Obama how? Neither his base nor the majority of the country likes him anymore (and they haven't for a while). He continues to do whatever he wants, regardless of public opinion.

[Soul Crusher]

just last month the Repubs were telling us how the polls (then favoring Obama weren't accurate)

At this point all that's left is the ground game and the paperwork

You really are dumb.   

[MCWAY]

Look at you dipshits.  LOL!!!  Mitt can get away with ignoring, insulting, and contradicting his right and his supporters, because he knows they have nowhere to go. Hahaha... he's it.  You don't have another choice.   But after "using" them to get the nomination, his current callous disregard for them should tell you all you need to know about Mitt.  

You are stuck with a candidate that no one even liked at the beginning of the primaries.  Now all of you are swinging from his magical underwear.

Look at you left-winged screwballs like you. You drank the Obama kool-aid in 2008 and are now watching Mr. Hope-and-Change crumble before your very eyes.

Obama spent HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars, trying to smear Romney; yet, he has stood tall, knocked all of those bogus attacks back, and has been cruising, ever since slapping the taste out Obama's mouth on Oct. 3

Romney did in ONE DEBATE what Obama and Biden couldn't do in THREE. And, now, the lefty goof troopers like you have gone from breaking out the champagne last month, to having to break out the Maalox THIS MONTH.

And, if this keeps up, the beating Obama takes in two weeks will make 2010 look like a Jell-O wrestling match.

I'm fine with Romney getting the nomination. The survivor of the "worst field in GOP history" has been manhandling the anointed and brilliant Obama on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF THIS CAMPAIGN.

And if Obama doesn't pull a rabbit out of his hat...and do so FAST....he and his wife will be drinking with Jay-Z and Beyonce but for much different reasons.


As I said elsewhere, you and the other TK members better join Chris Matthews and get all the thrills up your legs NOW, while you can. Because, if Obama keeps this up, it's all over in 14 days.

[MCWAY]

And this is different from Obama how? Neither his base nor the majority of the country likes him anymore (and they haven't for a while). He continues to do whatever he wants, regardless of public opinion.

And the last time he did that was with ObamaCare. The Dems got clobbered as a result.

[Straw Man]

I addressed that earlier. Those polls were oversampling Democrats, in many cases, by nine points or more.

I showed example of a poll in Florida that did just that. Florida's voter demographic was 37% Dem and 34% GOP in 2008; it was dead even in 2010. Do you really think the Dems are going to have a NINE-POINT advantage in 2012?

It was also pointed out that, as the election grew closer, the election would tighten and go Romney's way. The polls would STOP using registered voters and use almost exclusively likely voters. And the oversampling of Dems would greatly diminished.

Again, when you can point to some polls that oversample Republicans by 9 or more, you'd have a case to make.

yep and those arguments have been refuted many times and I could post all the articles but honestly who really gives a shit at this point

it's all moot at this point

all that matters now are actual votes and I'd be happy if the election were today but unfortunately we still have to wait a few more weeks

on the plus side, I guess that gives Romney time to explain why he just disavowed half of the things he claimed to believe just a few weeks ago

[Straw Man]

You really are dumb.   

what part of those two sentences I wrote do you think is false

[Soul Crusher]

what part of those two sentences I wrote do you think is false

The polls that showed obama up were based on democrat oversampling based on ridiculous turnout models that no one believes will happen. 

[Straw Man]

The polls that showed obama up were based on democrat oversampling based on ridiculous turnout models that no one believes will happen. 

again, I can post all the articles that refute that argument but who cares at this point

btw - do you think the pollsters decided to just stop oversampling after the first debate.....of course not

the methodolgy is the same now as it was then

[MCWAY]

again, I can post all the articles that refute that argument but who cares at this point

btw - do you think the pollsters decided to just stop oversampling after the first debate.....of course not

the methodolgy is the same now as it was then

Hardly!!

In that same post, Silver touts a “SurveyUSA poll showing Mr. Obama with a one-point lead in Florida is really the slightly better result for him.” That SurveyUSA poll indeed had Obama up by one point, but had a Democratic party-ID advantage of nine points. In 2008 Democrats had a three-point advantage, and in 2010 the parties were even. So the SurveyUSA poll is good news only if you believe Democrats will not only improve on their 2008 turnout, but triple their turnout advantage over Republicans. 




http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331192/nate-silver-s-flawed-model-josh-jordan

[Straw Man]

Hardly!!

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331192/nate-silver-s-flawed-model-josh-jordan

oh wow  you have a link supporting your belief

would it make any difference to you if I posted links that support the opposite

if you want to believe that the polls oversampled Dems before and are not doing so now then feel free

I'm sure you believe Romney is going to win

I believ that Obama will win

We'll know which one of us is correct in a few more weeks

[Soul Crusher]

oh wow  you have a link supporting your belief

would it make any difference to you if I posted links that support the opposite

if you want to believe that the polls oversampled Dems before and are not doing so now then feel free

I'm sure you believe Romney is going to win

I believ that Obama will win

We'll know which one of us is correct in a few more weeks

Why do you think Obama will win? 

Gallup is showing landslide

Ras showing growing lead

States are mostly improving for mittens.

Obama is closing WEAK 

The debates have only helped Romney as obama is still trying to shore up his base.   

[Straw Man]

Why do you think Obama will win? 

Gallup is showing landslide

Ras showing growing lead

States are mostly improving for mittens.

Obama is closing WEAK 

The debates have only helped Romney as obama is still trying to shore up his base.   

I've stated my belief so we'll just have to wait to see what happens

[240 is Back]

Why do you think Obama will win? 

Gallup is showing landslide

Ras showing growing lead

States are mostly improving for mittens.

Obama is closing WEAK 

The debates have only helped Romney as obama is still trying to shore up his base.   

If the election was held TODAY, I think obama would win.

If the TREND continues - obama keeps trending down and romney keeps up this slow rise - Romney will win.

It's all about the power of the incumbency - if Obama starts a war or the dems drop some bombshell, or if Trump's supposed bombshell is real, etc... THOSE are the things which could change the eleciton.  Remember bin laden endorsing Kerry 5 minutes before the 2004 election?  Or the hostage shit in 1980?   Stranger things have happened.

personally, I think in this high tech world of opportunity, Obama has had his fun and is ready to be president of UN or king of europe or some nonsense... ready to retire and make $100 mil a year working for a thinktank.   But the party does like to remain in power.

[Soul Crusher]

If election were today - Romney gets 287 EV by my estimation - by election day 330 as per the U. of Co. studies. 

If the election was held TODAY, I think obama would win.

If the TREND continues - obama keeps trending down and romney keeps up this slow rise - Romney will win.

It's all about the power of the incumbency - if Obama starts a war or the dems drop some bombshell, or if Trump's supposed bombshell is real, etc... THOSE are the things which could change the eleciton.  Remember bin laden endorsing Kerry 5 minutes before the 2004 election?  Or the hostage shit in 1980?  &guy things have happened.

personally, I think in this high tech world of opportunity, Obama has had his fun and is ready to be president of UN or king of europe or some nonsense... ready to retire and make $100 mil a year working for a thinktank.   But the party does like to remain in power.

[240 is Back]

If election were today - Romney gets 287 EV by my estimation - by election day 330 as per the U. of Co. studies. 

they're the outlier dude.  and early voting has gone obama's way in a big way. 

U of Co doesn't match what everyone else is saying dude.  I'm in agreement that romney will win on election day - BUT i'm talking TODAY, it would be obama based upon the early voting and the fact he's still ahead - although trending down.

Down to 58% on intrade.  confidence is falling.  But it'll be in this last 2 weeks that he REALLY appears desperate, with giant moves to pander to swing voters - in which his base will lose faith and common sense voters will give up on him.

[240 is Back]

something special happens - in the last week - when the country kinda KNOWS one guy will lose.  We saw it in 2008... Mccain KNEW he would lose - so he played out the string, but the enthusiasm wasn't there.

Obama isn't that deflated yet, he was still fuckin with romney on bayonets, etc...  BUT he will be there in another week, given the current trend.

He isn't publicly desperate - YET.   He probably will be tho.