Does anyone support Amnesty for Illegals?

[240 is Back]

You are the one who brought her up, not me or james and so far she is not running. 

Now, do you favor obama's p[athway to citizenship?   

Hell no!  If you have ever entered the US illegally, your ass is OFF the "potential citizenship" list, PERIOD!

[24KT]

Hell no!  If you have ever entered the US illegally, your ass is OFF the "potential citizenship" list, PERIOD!

...unless you're Cuban, ...in which  case... the minute your feet touch US soil... INSTANT CITIZENSHIP!!!!

[drkaje]

...unless you're Cuban, ...in which  case... the minute your feet touch US soil... INSTANT CITIZENSHIP!!!!

That's simple politics and has nothing to do with right or wrong.

None of them should be here.

[24KT]

That's simple politics and has nothing to do with right or wrong.

None of them should be here.

It's all politics!

[drkaje]

It's all politics!

That's the problem.

Canadians want America to fail and would never accept millions of illegals.

Politicians want votes and will never do the right thing.

The middle class and poor will stay stuck in the middle until they start forcing term limit onto ballots and boycotting certain legislative decisions by refusing to spend money.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama/Bush/McCain/Graham are all playing word games on this. 

Pay a fine?   - with what money and who is going to collect that? 

Back of the line?  Do you think they give a rats ass about that?

Speak English?   Most are illiterate as it is.

Secure the border?  How did that work out in 1986?



 
   

[Soul Crusher]

Great one. 

[loco]

No


What is Amnesty "for illegals"?  Is there such a thing as Amnesty for legals?

[240 is Back]

Obama/Bush/McCain/Graham are all playing word games on this. 

Pay a fine?   - with what money and who is going to collect that? 

Back of the line?  Do you think they give a rats ass about that?

Speak English?   Most are illiterate as it is.

Secure the border?  How did that work out in 1986?   

Do you think palin is playing word games too?

"Not TOTAL amnesty..."

Come on, that's not straight talk.

[kcballer]

I support amnesty for those already here. 

[Soul Crusher]

I support amnesty for those already here. 

And what is 30 million flood the border after that?  Do you support amnesty for them too? 

[Fury]

I support amnesty for those already here. 

So they should be rewarded for entering the country illegally? What about the millions of people who wait years to enter this country through legal channels? Are the illegals that already here better than them or something?

[Option D]

no

[Soul Crusher]

The problem is that as soon as you give the present ones amnesty, we are going to be in the same situation 20 years from now.

[kcballer]

The problem is that as soon as you give the present ones amnesty, we are going to be in the same situation 20 years from now.

Potentially yes.  But it certainly makes it easier to swallow a tougher border stance in liberal areas given that there is amnesty for those already here.

[Soul Crusher]

Potentially yes.  But it certainly makes it easier to swallow a tougher border stance in liberal areas given that there is amnesty for those already here.

That never happens. 

[kcballer]

That never happens. 

You're saying this as if amnesty has already been given.  It's an easier sell to close the borders if you give amnesty for those already here. 

[Soul Crusher]

You're saying this as if amnesty has already been given.  It's an easier sell to close the borders if you give amnesty for those already here. 

KC - how old are you?  Im saying this because I remember the last debates over amnesty. 

I'm using past experience as a barometer for the future.  The last amnesty was sold to where it was the last ever and they would secure the borde.r  They granted amnesty to many millions of people, never secured the border, and hence we have the same problem.

most people, inclusing myself, have no faith thatt he govt will take the enforcement side seriously at all.   

[Fury]

You're saying this as if amnesty has already been given.  It's an easier sell to close the borders if you give amnesty for those already here.  

The majority of Americans already want the border closed. No need to sell amnesty to get people to want to close the borders. But this is what CNN and other far-lefters are zeroing in on with trying to tie the two together.

[kcballer]

Okay close the border without amnesty, then watch as Americans are not allowed in central American countries or South American countries.  The closing of a border without amnesty for those inside would result in a massive sh*t storm for Americans and further relegate America's international status to that of a tyrant. 

[Fury]

Okay close the border without amnesty, then watch as Americans are not allowed in central American countries or South American countries.  The closing of a border without amnesty for those inside would result in a massive sh*t storm for Americans and further relegate America's international status to that of a tyrant. 

Nice, your entire argument is built on hyperbole. Thanks for playing.

[Soul Crusher]

Okay close the border without amnesty, then watch as Americans are not allowed in central American countries or South American countries.  The closing of a border without amnesty for those inside would result in a massive sh*t storm for Americans and further relegate America's international status to that of a tyrant. 

Those countries dont permit illegal aliens to get away with it, why should we?

[kcballer]

Those countries dont permit illegal aliens to get away with it, why should we?

Because we are the better country.  Why do you always think we should stoop to low levels of humanity?  If others are so closed minded that they have policies that do not allow their countries to become great then so be it, but America is great and it's great because we aren't like everyone else. 

[Fury]

Those countries dont permit illegal aliens to get away with it, why should we?

It's well documented how atrociously most Central and South American countries treat illegals yet we're supposed to give amnesty because the leftists are claiming they'll bar Americans from entering those countries.

What a joke. Do they honestly expect us to believe that?  

[Fury]

So they should be rewarded for entering the country illegally? What about the millions of people who wait years to enter this country through legal channels? Are the illegals that already here better than them or something?

Why are you avoiding this, KC?

Are the people who enter America illegally better than the ones who do it through legal channels and wait years for the opportunity to come here?