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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Cholo4Life on July 21, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
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He may go off one compound & switch to another, but there is no way he could come close to maintaining his size by going off for any length of time.
In his videos, he can barely talk without going out of breath & he's always around 280.
I like Ritch & his videos are entertaining, but he's doing himself a disservice by saying such things since he loses credibility.
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key words "up to"... i'd venture to guess that means he came off for 6 months, once, 6 years ago. lol
and I don't doubt he can go off for a while and maintain size. since a good chunk of that size is from little silicone beads infused with his muscle fibers.
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When he was competing not that belivable but nowadays i believe that. I dont get how people think as soon as you come off you loose everything. Unless the weight you had was water it wont jus go if you train right and eat right. For me anyway thats how its always been
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I enjoy his video's they are entertaining but I don't think I would take his advice over the moderators here or the senior members. I think he is just a guy who does a lot of performance enhancing drugs not a guru or anything.
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He's full of shit.
Always has been, always will be.
I don't believe anything he says.
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When he was competing not that belivable but nowadays i believe that. I dont get how people think as soon as you come off you loose everything. Unless the weight you had was water it wont jus go if you train right and eat right. For me anyway thats how its always been
The bigger you are & the more gear you use to get to that level, the faster you lose that size. You absolutely cannot do grams & grams of gear to get to Rich's size & then go clean for 6 months & come close to maintaining that size & condition. If Ronnie, Levrone & Cormier can't do that, why can Rich Piana?
If you believe Ritch can do that, then you believe Lee Priest bulks on 1cc Deca & 1cc Primo.
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Guy talks so much shit. Fuck him.
Looks like poop.
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well, in his (and 99% of most pro's, or big guys in general) defense. when you 'figure it out' how to get to a certain size, the last thing you want is for everybody else to figure it out and catch up. Next thing you know, you have guys spending their money on nothing more than test and gh, (and tren when they gotta get hard), and suppliers inventory's of the high $/unit items like primo, var, tbol, ect... aren't moving. Guys are afraid of 'side effects', so they allow themselves to get brainwashed into thinking they're gonna get 'safe gains' from the girls drugs, and spend $500 on little cycles of primo and test that don't go over 500mg/wk... much less a gram.
soooo..... you give misinformation. Nasser telling guys to eat cat food. Lee telling ppl he uses deca and primo in girls doses. Tom Prince saying you only need a gram of test. Dave Palumbo saying you need to use 7 different drugs. George Farah saying you don't need more than 10iu gh. ect.. ect.. ect...
so sure, take 6 months off at a time because rich does... and wonder after 18months why you're wearing the same size clothes. lol
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When he was competing not that belivable but nowadays i believe that. I dont get how people think as soon as you come off you loose everything. Unless the weight you had was water it wont jus go if you train right and eat right. For me anyway thats how its always been
you hold as much solid muscle weight as your gear use allows.... u cant be an advanced weight if you clear out for 6 month, no one can, physically impossibe
train and eat as perfectly as you want, have the best genes in the world, but if youve gained 50lbs of lean tissue, your probly going to loose 40lb of it..
now you could get fatter to counteract the muscle loss and con your self into thinking your still huge, but if you stay in shape your going to be alot smaller
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Sad news.... according to Rich we are all now internet haters :( how will I sleep at night
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well, in his (and 99% of most pro's, or big guys in general) defense. when you 'figure it out' how to get to a certain size, the last thing you want is for everybody else to figure it out and catch up. Next thing you know, you have guys spending their money on nothing more than test and gh, (and tren when they gotta get hard), and suppliers inventory's of the high $/unit items like primo, var, tbol, ect... aren't moving. Guys are afraid of 'side effects', so they allow themselves to get brainwashed into thinking they're gonna get 'safe gains' from the girls drugs, and spend $500 on little cycles of primo and test that don't go over 500mg/wk... much less a gram.
soooo..... you give misinformation. Nasser telling guys to eat cat food. Lee telling ppl he uses deca and primo in girls doses. Tom Prince saying you only need a gram of test. Dave Palumbo saying you need to use 7 different drugs. George Farah saying you don't need more than 10iu gh. ect.. ect.. ect...
so sure, take 6 months off at a time because rich does... and wonder after 18months why you're wearing the same size clothes. lol
fuck off aesthetics ::)
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Oil boy is on three to ten grams a week year round guaranteed. This tard is so dishonest he brings fake weights to golds to film youtube videos, not even magazine promotions, but his youtube channel.
I don't know why these fags feel the need to lie.. Oh, yeah, he has a supplement line to pimp.
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fake weights, fake gear, fake friends what's next these days... oh ya a mark Wahlberg supplement line that's whats next ha ha ha it doesn't get much worse
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I heard from a friend he has fake bicep implants to make his biceps bigger, lol is this true?
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you hold as much solid muscle weight as your gear use allows.... u cant be an advanced weight if you clear out for 6 month, no one can, physically impossibe
train and eat as perfectly as you want, have the best genes in the world, but if youve gained 50lbs of lean tissue, your probly going to loose 40lb of it..
now you could get fatter to counteract the muscle loss and con your self into thinking your still huge, but if you stay in shape your going to be alot smaller
I thought as fron what ive read about hgh its very good for helping you hold lean mass. When hes off he is probably on a truck load of hgh hcg etc etc. Im more than likely wrong but with those i assumed and from own experinece you hold your muscle mass extremely well when off
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I thought as from what ive read about hgh its very good for helping you hold lean mass. When hes off he is probably on a truck load of hgh hcg etc etc. Im more than likely wrong but with those from own experinece you hold your muscle mass extremely well when off.
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I thought as from what ive read about hgh its very good for helping you hold lean mass. When hes off he is probably on a truck load of hgh hcg etc etc. Im more than likely wrong but with those from own experinece you hold your muscle mass extremely well when off.
there is no 'off' for them in the literal sense.
'off' means hrt doses 100-200/wk, or 2x hrt doses 200-400/wk, at the very least.
now THAT I can believe for 6 months.
if he'd say 'I come off everything except test and hgh', i'd completely buy that.
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Thought this was a hardcore board and not the hair salon GOSSIP shit board
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I thought as from what ive read about hgh its very good for helping you hold lean mass. When hes off he is probably on a truck load of hgh hcg etc etc. Im more than likely wrong but with those from own experinece you hold your muscle mass extremely well when off.
This makes no sense. You can't replace testosterone with Growth Hormone . They are different hormones & work differently.
You cannot hold on to mass built by grams & grams of gear by going off all gear & taking a ton of GH. Not only will it still not work, but you'd be spending $1000s on GH to look worse that if you'd stayed on $100s worth of Test.
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very false
even i know you lose all your gainz after 8 wks
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He is an asshole who fucks dudes. Nuff said.
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hgh without steroids holds....fuck all
Then why do you gain muscle on just hgh without steroids? Not as fast as steroids. But you still gain lean mass just off hgh
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Also i was always told your body gets used to holding onto the extra mass so you naturally can hold on to more muscle mass after each cycle/extended peroids of time on.
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who told you this tho?.... bodybuilders love to make out they are the exception, but we are all the same, no hormones no big ripped muscles... as for gh giving you more perminent gains ::), they tried to claim that in the 90's, utter bullshit
gh on its own does very little, a little bit gh with a small dose of gear goes a very long way tho.. piana will never come off, he will be juicing on dialysis just like that other gay clown
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Guys who have decades of experience with gear and studies on hgh. Like i said im more than likely wrong lol
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Guys who have decades of experience with gear and studies on hgh telling lies . Like i said im more than likely wrong lol
fixed for truth... one thing you learn the longer you do this is that everyone fibs about what they do, your lukcy tho, if youd started out before the internets, when info wasnt readily available, there were many a fairy tail being spun
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Guys who have decades of experience with gear and studies on hgh. Like i said im more than likely wrong lol
Bodybuilders are the best liars and they're always exceptions to the rule ::)
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I still dont understand why every study ive read on growth always stated it had a positive effect on the users muscle mass. I rememeber reading one hgh vs test solo study and they basically said the growth was much slower leaner gains with better fatloss. So why can you not use growth during a bridge and still maintain ones body compositon if solo you make gains? No ones actually answered that question yet,gone around it by saying they are lying.
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I still dont understand why every study ive read on growth always stated it had a positive effect on the users muscle mass. I rememeber reading one hgh vs test solo study and they basically said the growth was much slower leaner gains with better fatloss. So why can you not use growth during a bridge and still maintain ones body compositon if solo you make gains? No ones actually answered that question yet,gone around it by saying they are lying.
bc It really doesn't work that way.... unless you have cancer, are a burn victim, or have aids... and have never trained before.
i have wealthy clients who're 40-76yrs old go to the doc and get scripts for hgh (usually nortictropin) and run bt 2-4iu/day expecting awesome things to happen. (w/o test). and they're disappointed ALWAYS. they continue to make the same progress they made before the hgh.. then, after me trying to beat it into their heads, they'll add test at b/t 200 every two weeks and 300/wk (76 yr old guy got his doc to write hrt at 300/wk@! lol.. guess that's how it works when you're worth 52mil lol) and BOOM.. they start putting on muscle and their physique changes.
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Still not sure as the doses they were using are more for anti aging good skin.Also how hard these guys train,74year old? 4iu is at the bottom to see a change in body comp and even at that dose its not going to be amazing.also if you have cancer surely they wouldnt give you hgh untill clear due to it could speed up growth of the tumor.
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Also hgh increases igf1,protein synthesis and increases muscle mass with hypertrophy...so erm how is it not helpful?
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Still not sure as the doses they were using are more for anti aging good skin.Also how hard these guys train,74year old? they train hard as anybody else.. weathly dudes tend to have something to prove... in general 4iu is at the bottom to see a change in body comp and even at that dose its not going to be amazingmost research is done in the low dose... except aids patients, then the doses jump.also if you have cancer surely they wouldnt give you hgh untill clear due to it could speed up growth of the tumor. very true. lol.. it was 3am when I wrote that. good catch.
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Rich is a honest guy but never believe anybody when they tell you how they use gear
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Widow speaking the truth. I mean, it's one big competition after all..
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Ive learned being honest about how you use gear or even if you use it always back fires. Its the first thing some one throws in your face when they are mad. And its really fucking annoying because people don't even know how to correctly make fun of some one who is using steroids they just go off of bogus theories they believe to be true they hear from the media. And I would just laugh at them and not know where to even start on how to respond to such ignorance. I can understand rich lying about things. People who take steroids and do pct always think people who never cycle off they are better than some how. Or that they have worked harder than them and if they didn't cycle off they would be where they are. Lol fuck it at least he's not saying its all cell tech or some bull shit like that.
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Ive learned being honest about how you use gear or even if you use it always back fires. Its the first thing some one throws in your face when they are mad. And its really fucking annoying because people don't even know how to correctly make fun of some one who is using steroids they just go off of bogus theories they believe to be true they hear from the media. And I would just laugh at them and not know where to even start on how to respond to such ignorance. I can understand rich lying about things. People who take steroids and do pct always think people who never cycle off they are better than some how. Or that they have worked harder than them and if they didn't cycle off they would be where they are. Lol fuck it at least he's not saying its all cell tech or some bull shit like that.
Exactly.
I've been in the AAS world for over 12 years and every single person i know who uses gear lies about it on some level. Like i have said before, when someone's well being and income is based on their body, they are going to lie about what they do to look that way. Nobody is going to admit they abuse AAS and stimulants to look the way they do, it's just the way it goes in this industry. Everyone wants other people to believe they know something other people don't, they want you to believe they don't abuse drugs because they have that magic formula to get big and lean.
I don't tell anyone that i use gear. There are maybe 3 people in my life that know i have even used gear and I've been using it for a long time. It's not something i want to share with people, but i don't go around telling people I'm special and that i know the magic formula to getting big. It's a slippery slope that i don't want to deal with in my professional life either.
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He never cycles of Synthol..... ::)
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i hate it when bbers at my work boldy ask me about steroids in front of everybody
some of them lie about their own use, others enjoy the attention by telling everyone they're on steroids
i just hate them, for trying to bring bad attention to myself
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client of mine trained with rich today ($120 lol).
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client of mine trained with rich today ($120 lol).
is your client a millionaire? how did he become one?
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is your client a millionaire? how did he become one?
ehh...
maybe.. maybe property values total over a mil.. maybe.
was homeless... got his shit together... bought some property.. leveraged it.. bought more property.. now owns apts. (all rentals and commercial). long story short.
super nice, 'salt of the earth' type dude.