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Title: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 06, 2008, 01:59:25 PM
We were watching "The cost of redemption" and he said "No way, its a lie that he eats so small amounts all day!"
What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 06, 2008, 02:01:11 PM
The video probably didn't show everything Ronnie ate

Maybe likes to enjoy his food(meat and corn bread!!)

Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Go 4 It on August 06, 2008, 02:02:25 PM
He definitely eats more in the off season..
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 02:02:51 PM
not everyone has to eat 10,000 calories a day to grow.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 02:04:10 PM
He definitely eats more in the off season..
nah, if anything he probably eats LESS off season, i remember on the Unbelieveable he was pre contest and his meals were HUGE, a whole plate piled 6 inches high with chicken tenders a few times a day.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 06, 2008, 02:05:16 PM
not everyone has to eat 10,000 calories a day to grow.


And 1,000 grams of protein!  ;D
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 06, 2008, 02:06:54 PM
not everyone has to eat 10,000 calories a day to grow.
I think he dont eat that much too.
Cus he dont need to lie in his video. Its non-sence.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 06, 2008, 02:07:04 PM

Yeah, off-season is when the metabolism slows down.  You're not trying to burn calories anymore, plus with more fat in his diet it will digest slower.

Grits w/ Cheese and two cups of egg whites
Black eyed pea: two chicken breasts, beans, corn, cornbread
black eyed pea:  "   "            
Outback, two fillets, baked potato, french fries "real fries, not that baked stuff" ;)
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 06, 2008, 02:08:26 PM
nah, if anything he probably eats LESS off season, i remember on the Unbelieveable he was pre contest and his meals were HUGE, a whole plate piled 6 inches high with chicken tenders a few times a day.
Yeah right.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Go 4 It on August 06, 2008, 02:09:17 PM
He has to cut out certain stuff carb wise, and also switches it from chicken to turkey, cuts out red meat, little stuff like that..
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 02:09:30 PM
I think he dont eat that much too.
Cus he dont need to lie in his video. Its non-sence.
i remember an old article in Flex when Ronnie and some other pros went to Russia for one of the Grand Prix shows Ronnie was shaking his head at how often Kris Dim was eating, he said he doesn't eat anywhere near as often as him.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 06, 2008, 02:11:33 PM
i remember an old article in Flex when Ronnie and some other pros went to Russia for one of the Grand Prix shows Ronnie was shaking his head at how often Kris Dim was eating, he said he doesn't eat anywhere near as often as him.
Thats quite interesting info.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: nicky.smth on August 06, 2008, 02:29:23 PM
He has to cut out certain stuff carb wise, and also switches it from chicken to turkey, cuts out red meat, little stuff like that..


that's not true...Ronnie eats chicken all year round.. ;D
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 06, 2008, 02:32:40 PM
that restaurant food is loaded with calories.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: dustin on August 06, 2008, 02:36:05 PM

that's not true...Ronnie eats chicken all year round.. ;D


But not without at least 40 gallons of Masterpiece BBQ sauce a month lol

That company should seriously sponsor Ronnie... a brother loves his Masterpiece BBQ sauce. All hail the G.O.A.T!!
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: OTHstrong on August 06, 2008, 04:12:24 PM
This is what seems to be happening, Pros will claim to eat little in the oof-season and claim to eat a lot while dieting, they lie plain and simple. The reality is they eat like elephants in the off season and they eat like infants for shows. If you are under endorsment contract with a supplement line you can't say you eat 12 000 calories because then the food takes the credit and not the supplement. While dieting you get cut practicly starving yourself, but then again the dietary supplements don'ty take credit, so they eat 10 carb meals, ya right.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 04:51:03 PM
This is what seems to be happening, Pros will claim to eat little in the oof-season and claim to eat a lot while dieting, they lie plain and simple. The reality is they eat like elephants in the off season and they eat like infants for shows. If you are under endorsment contract with a supplement line you can't say you eat 12 000 calories because then the food takes the credit and not the supplement. While dieting you get cut practicly starving yourself, but then again the dietary supplements don'ty take credit, so they eat 10 carb meals, ya right.
no pro eats 12,000 calories a day, not now, not ever.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: candidizzle on August 06, 2008, 04:52:48 PM
no pro eats 12,000 calories a day, not now, not ever.
not of 'clean food'

alot of them are pot heads though, and a couple pizzas addds up quick  ;D
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 04:54:23 PM
not of 'clean food'

alot of them are pot heads though, and a couple pizzas addds up quick  ;D
::) my post stands.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 06, 2008, 04:56:07 PM
Quote
not of 'clean food'

alot of them are pot heads though, and a couple pizzas addds up quick

when you are high you eat mostly shit and not anything decent. Twinkies and Twix bars = easy to eat but I doubt a pro would eat 2-3,000 cals of just sugar and fat a day. Eating the remainder in chicken and rice, and post workout shit would be hard. Wouldn't add up to "12,000"

Probaby 8,000 at most and these are the dudes that don't care.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: candidizzle on August 06, 2008, 04:57:26 PM
::) my post stands.
you doubt a pot smoking, muscl aiden, dbol + test addict who has no worries about getting fat from food, and gets paid by how much muscle he has,,, would be eating pizzas, cheesurgers, chili cheese fries, ect ?

i will tell you from first hand experience that that is how some of them eat.  
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: candidizzle on August 06, 2008, 04:58:36 PM
when you are high you eat mostly shit and not anything decent. Twinkies and Twix bars = easy to eat but I doubt a pro would eat 2-3,000 cals of just sugar and fat a day. Eating the remainder in chicken and rice, and post workout shit would be hard. Wouldn't add up to "12,000"

Probaby 8,000 at most and these are the dudes that don't care.
nah man... i used to see this guy whos a pro , hed always be getting high, and hed always be arrying with him BAGS full of fast food, and id hear stories of him at buffets and the like..
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 05:00:30 PM
you doubt a pot smoking, muscl aiden, dbol + test addict who has no worries about getting fat from food, and gets paid by how much muscle he has,,, would be eating pizzas, cheesurgers, chili cheese fries, ect ?

i will tell you from first hand experience that that is how some of them eat.  
dude shut the fucck up, i like a lot of your posts but gimme a break with the "i know the pros" bullshit. ::) do you have any idea how many "cheeseburgers and chili cheese fries" 12,000 calories is?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: candidizzle on August 06, 2008, 05:01:17 PM
dude shut the fucck up, i like a lot of your posts but gimme a break with the "i know the pros" bullshit. ::) do you have any idea how many "cheeseburgers and chili cheese fries" 12,000 calories is?
  okay quaker

believe what you like


 :)
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: dragonfist on August 06, 2008, 05:11:14 PM
Ronnie mentions in one of his later videos (I believe it was Relentless) that Mits went to sleep before he ate his later meals.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 06, 2008, 05:12:32 PM
Ronnie mentions in one of his later videos (I believe it was Relentless) that Mits went to sleep before he ate his later meals.
yeah he supposedly stays up until 3 or 4 in the morning and doesn't sleep very much so he probably got another solid meal and a shake.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: candidizzle on August 06, 2008, 05:12:43 PM
ronnie eats some grosse shit off season.

after i first watched his cost of redemption, i bought a couple boxes of old fashion grits, a bunch of containers of egg whites, and some kraft singles and tried out his little concoction....     :-X disgusting
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Campeon Del Mundo on August 06, 2008, 09:01:38 PM
there's no evidence showing high protein diets help build muscle faster..
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Naked4Jesus on August 06, 2008, 09:16:25 PM
there's no evidence showing high protein diets help build muscle faster..

That's because you're not supposed to be drinking it straight from the tap.  Try some steak and eggs instead.   :-X
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 06, 2008, 09:28:57 PM
right now I am force feeding myself and I eat about 5000 calories of clean food a day. 6000 when I decide to eat some ice cream.

that's a fuck load of food(for me at least) and I want to trow up everyday when I go to sleep because my belly is so bloated


I call bullshit on anyone claiming to eat more than 7-8000 calories a day of clean food
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: England_1 on August 06, 2008, 09:30:52 PM
Ronnie already commented on this in his last video. He said that Mits was asleep and missed about half of his meals. Ronnie said he only sleep 5 hours a night or so and has his last meal at 3 am
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: dustin on August 06, 2008, 09:37:10 PM
right now I am force feeding myself and I eat about 5000 calories of clean food a day. 6000 when I decide to eat some ice cream.

that's a fuck load of food(for me at least) and I want to trow up everyday when I go to sleep because my belly is so bloated


I call bullshit on anyone claiming to eat more than 7-8000 calories a day of clean food

The difference between eating that many calories clean and dirty is like night and day. I've eaten that many calories in a day easily. I've mowed on hash and ate thousands of calories in spaghetti alone (it did not stay down, mind you), then ate for hours more. But to eat clean food and/or whole foods is much different.

When you cut out the high GI sugars and fat, just focusing on positive fats, moderate to low carbs and high protein just a few thousand feels like a chore. After a few thousand calories it starts getting a little uncomfortable, in my experience at least.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 06, 2008, 09:48:36 PM
The difference between eating that many calories clean and dirty is like night and day. I've eaten that many calories in a day easily. I've mowed on hash and ate thousands of calories in spaghetti alone (it did not stay down, mind you), then ate for hours more. But to eat clean food and/or whole foods is much different.

When you cut out the high GI sugars and fat, just focusing on positive fats, moderate to low carbs and high protein just a few thousand feels like a chore. After a few thousand calories it starts getting a little uncomfortable, in my experience at least.

oh eating 5-6000 calories a day with weight gainer shakes and mcdonald is easy as fuck. I did it often.

but eating 5000 calories a day of clean food like I do right now is starting to make me want to puke, you get tired of eating real fast.
it's only been a month since my off-season started and I am already tired of eating, but that's the only way to grow
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: chris faildo on August 06, 2008, 09:59:26 PM
You folks are right, eating becomes a chore when you're trying to put down clean food.  Mits captured me eating all of my meals and was up 5:00am to film it all.  He is a class act and will be missed in the bodybuilding industry.  I'm sure glad we put the DVD together.  I spoke to him in Vegas at the USA and he's doing ok- moving back home to Japan.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 06, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
You folks are right, eating becomes a chore when you're trying to put down clean food.  Mits captured me eating all of my meals and was up 5:00am to film it all.  He is a class act and will be missed in the bodybuilding industry.  I'm sure glad we put the DVD together.  I spoke to him in Vegas at the USA and he's doing ok- moving back home to Japan.

how many calories a day are you eating when you are trying to grow, mr.faildo ?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: EwaBeachBoy on August 06, 2008, 10:18:04 PM
You folks are right, eating becomes a chore when you're trying to put down clean food.  Mits captured me eating all of my meals and was up 5:00am to film it all.  He is a class act and will be missed in the bodybuilding industry.  I'm sure glad we put the DVD together.  I spoke to him in Vegas at the USA and he's doing ok- moving back home to Japan.

Hey, Chris!! Been watching your DVD numerous times and Ive been taking notes.

Your portions for your protein were kinda hard for me to eat at first. Times I thought I was going to throw up cause it felt like a lot of food! I was wondering how the hell you do it almost everyday. Especially the chicken...

But since using your marinade recipee...gosh!! That saved me!!! So Ono!!!

Now I know how you are able to stick to your diet! Getting your dvd was a blessing and I learned a lot from it...thank you!
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: chris faildo on August 06, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Hey, Chris!! Been watching your DVD numerous times and Ive been taking notes.

Your portions for your protein were kinda hard for me to eat at first. Times I thought I was going to throw up cause it felt like a lot of food! I was wondering how the hell you do it almost everyday. Especially the chicken...

But since using your marinade recipee...gosh!! That saved me!!! So Ono!!!

Now I know how you are able to stick to your diet! Getting your dvd was a blessing and I learned a lot from it...thank you!
Thanks bro, the marinate makes a big difference when trying to eat chicken year round.  I have no problems with 12oz of chicken per meal when it is marinated.  I'm glad you're still taking notes and applying my secrets.  Keep up the good work.
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Post by: ironjoe on August 06, 2008, 10:32:48 PM
Same here the DVD is great.  I've watched it several times already.  Check me out at www.ironjoeleahy.com and give me some feedback if ya have a second.  I used to stress so bad because I would have a couple table spoons of peanut butter a day and then two years of stressing later I see your DVD, crazy...................  I would sneak the table spoons in pre-contest and feel like I cheated but vascularity would pop out in the legs.  Its just ironic to me is all.  Why is Mitz done?  I have all his DVDs I do my morning cardio to his tapes.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: S_Samuel on August 06, 2008, 10:58:36 PM
Out of all the pro's i believe Jay eats the most clean food... if there is someone else that eat more i would be surprised. Most guy do eat 6,000-8,000 calories offseasons but not clean.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: EwaBeachBoy on August 06, 2008, 11:11:55 PM
Out of all the pro's i believe Jay eats the most clean food... if there is someone else that eat more i would be surprised. Most guy do eat 6,000-8,000 calories offseasons but not clean.

Then you gotta watch Faildo's DVD! Faildo eats clean even in the off season and on-season!
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: S_Samuel on August 06, 2008, 11:50:47 PM
Then you gotta watch Faildo's DVD! Faildo eats clean even in the off season and on-season!

What I meant was I don't believe anyone eat the large amount of clean food per day... lots of guy do eat clean year round... i believe it's the best way to go.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: closeline on August 07, 2008, 02:24:19 AM
maybe ronnie was smart enough to realize that its not necessary to overeat as much as all the other bb

pro, amateur, hobbys

there is no need to eat 500-600 grams of protein and 5000-8000 kalories as most of them do

this is stress to the body and not helpful in any way

if you want look like kovac eat eat eat....
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Nordic Beast on August 07, 2008, 03:35:23 AM
dude shut the fucck up, i like a lot of your posts but gimme a break with the "i know the pros" bullshit. ::) do you have any idea how many "cheeseburgers and chili cheese fries" 12,000 calories is?
not much bro----IM not a pro---Im not fat and Im not on juice but when I go to mcdonalds Ill routinely and easily eat

2 double cheeseburgers (440 calories each) 880 calories
1 mcchicken sandwhich 360 calories
2- 4 piece mcnuggets (190 calories each) 380 calories
1 Large fries 500 calories


thats 2120 calories in one meal------and Im sure a pro can out eat me easily-----teh calories in fast food add up quick
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 07, 2008, 04:03:51 AM
This is what seems to be happening, Pros will claim to eat little in the oof-season and claim to eat a lot while dieting, they lie plain and simple. The reality is they eat like elephants in the off season and they eat like infants for shows. If you are under endorsment contract with a supplement line you can't say you eat 12 000 calories because then the food takes the credit and not the supplement. While dieting you get cut practicly starving yourself, but then again the dietary supplements don'ty take credit, so they eat 10 carb meals, ya right.
Yes. Paco do that.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2008, 07:33:15 AM
Everyone here needs a reality check except for Candizzle and Kyomu. Pros eat 12 000 easy. I juat went through 100 chicken drums in the last 3 days, my word. Stavios, stop and think how unintelligent your post was... No offence, I have a lot of respect for you and I admire your drive, but I need to speak frank with you.  You say you eat up 6000 cal in a day right, You only managed to get 4th at your provincial championships as a teen under 200 pounds and over 6 feet, but you eat 6000 calories off season, what on earth makes you think someone who has won an Olympia title, the top of the world, and is well over 300 pound under six feet can't eat 2 plates for everyone you eat. Of course some pros eat that much.

As for Quackert Oats you have zero knowledge of anything bodybuilders do, every time I open a thread someones dissing you because you are so nieve.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 08:13:01 AM
^ I really doubt Kyomu eats 6K day.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Man of Steel on August 07, 2008, 08:14:59 AM
AHAHAAHHAAHAH!!!!  bodybuilding talk
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: toolarge4u on August 07, 2008, 08:19:20 AM
Everyone here needs a reality check except for Candizzle and Kyomu. Pros eat 12 000 easy. I juat went through 100 chicken drums in the last 3 days, my word. Stavios, stop and think how unintelligent your post was... No offence, I have a lot of respect for you and I admire your drive, but I need to speak frank with you.  You say you eat up 6000 cal in a day right, You only managed to get 4th at your provincial championships as a teen under 200 pounds and over 6 feet, but you eat 6000 calories off season, what on earth makes you think someone who has won an Olympia title, the top of the world, and is well over 300 pound under six feet can't eat 2 plates for everyone you eat. Of course some pros eat that much.

As for Quackert Oats you have zero knowledge of anything bodybuilders do, every time I open a thread someones dissing you because you are so nieve.

i eat 2500-3000 cals all the time and i compete at 212-215 in heavies. Im 5'9
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 08:30:59 AM
i eat 2500-3000 cals all the time and i compete at 212-215 in heavies. Im 5'9

Yes, and here's the thing: people's metabolisms do NOT differ that much. Which is why you can fairly accurately predict someone's BMR by his stats. That's why Kyomu can't eat that much without looking like a whale after a while, "clean" food or not.

Some bodybuilders claim to increase their food intake come diet time. BS. What they mean is that the food volume is higher since they are eating food that is not as calorie dense.

Anyone think two bodybuilders with similar stats have such different metabolic needs that one may need 3000 calories while one needs 6000 to sustain the same amount of muscle?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: local hero on August 07, 2008, 09:10:49 AM
when i was training propperly i was doin 8,000 pretty easy.. only thing stoppn me havn more was the cost of the fucker on top of the drugs and everyday bills.... havn a big appetite is part of whats needed to move up
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 07, 2008, 11:49:54 AM
Everyone here needs a reality check except for Candizzle and Kyomu. Pros eat 12 000 easy. I juat went through 100 chicken drums in the last 3 days, my word. Stavios, stop and think how unintelligent your post was... No offence, I have a lot of respect for you and I admire your drive, but I need to speak frank with you.  You say you eat up 6000 cal in a day right, You only managed to get 4th at your provincial championships as a teen under 200 pounds and over 6 feet, but you eat 6000 calories off season, what on earth makes you think someone who has won an Olympia title, the top of the world, and is well over 300 pound under six feet can't eat 2 plates for everyone you eat. Of course some pros eat that much.



wow that's a slap in the face  :)

I guess you are right man
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: 240 is Back on August 07, 2008, 11:53:23 AM
Ronnie isn't going to show himself eating higher quality Bev protein when he's endorsed by BSN.
So that tosses out 2-4 shakes a day we don't see.

Ronnie isn't going to show himself eating the late night ice cream sundae that we all enjoy 4-5 nights per week, is he? Makes it look like "All drugs".
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 12:34:45 PM
Everyone here needs a reality check except for Candizzle and Kyomu. Pros eat 12 000 easy. I juat went through 100 chicken drums in the last 3 days, my word. Stavios, stop and think how unintelligent your post was... No offence, I have a lot of respect for you and I admire your drive, but I need to speak frank with you.  You say you eat up 6000 cal in a day right, You only managed to get 4th at your provincial championships as a teen under 200 pounds and over 6 feet, but you eat 6000 calories off season, what on earth makes you think someone who has won an Olympia title, the top of the world, and is well over 300 pound under six feet can't eat 2 plates for everyone you eat. Of course some pros eat that much.

As for Quackert Oats you have zero knowledge of anything bodybuilders do, every time I open a thread someones dissing you because you are so nieve.
until i see proof no pro on earth eats 12K calories a day, you don't realize how much food that is.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 12:37:44 PM
not much bro----IM not a pro---Im not fat and Im not on juice but when I go to mcdonalds Ill routinely and easily eat

2 double cheeseburgers (440 calories each) 880 calories
1 mcchicken sandwhich 360 calories
2- 4 piece mcnuggets (190 calories each) 380 calories
1 Large fries 500 calories


thats 2120 calories in one meal------and Im sure a pro can out eat me easily-----teh calories in fast food add up quick
so you're saying that you could do that 6 times a day to get the 12K calories?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 07, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
12k is a fuck load of food. I imagine you're asking for major internal problems eating like that. Regardless of clean or junk food.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 12:48:08 PM
12k is a fuck load of food. I imagine you're asking for major internal problems eating like that. Regardless of clean or junk food.
none of these yahoos are eating even 7-8K let alone 12K. ::)
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 12:51:56 PM
just as an example of what Nordic Beast was saying in his post 12K calories would mean you're eating 12 double cheeseburgers, 6 McChicken sandwiches, 12 4 piece McNuggets and 6 large fries a day everyday, gimme a break. ::)
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 07, 2008, 12:57:17 PM
just as an example of what Nordic Beast was saying in his post 12K calories would mean you're eating 12 double cheeseburgers, 6 McChicken sandwiches, 12 4 piece McNuggets and 6 large fries a day everyday, gimme a break. ::)

well, that's fucking disgusting and I would puke from eating that much junk, but keep in mind that you have 18 hours to eat that.

that's doable IMO
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 12:58:43 PM
well, that's fucking disgusting and I would puke from eating that much junk, but keep in mind that you have 18 hours to eat that.

that's doable IMO
it ain't "doable" on a regular basis, maybe as a dare or on a bet but no one is doing it on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 07, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
it ain't "doable" on a regular basis, maybe as a dare or on a bet but no one is doing it on a regular basis.

I would not do it for sure.

like I said, I am eating 6k a day right now and I don't think I could eat much.
maybe these guys know how to simulate the appetite but 6k is all I can handle right now
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: suckmymuscle on August 07, 2008, 01:02:58 PM
no pro eats 12,000 calories a day, not now, not ever.

  Greg Kovacs used to eat as much as 18,000 calories and 1,200 grams of protein a day when he weighted around 440 lbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 01:04:05 PM
 Greg Kovacs used to eat as much as 18,000 calories and 1,200 grams of protein a day when he weighted around 440 lbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
bullshit, real stats, 6,000 calories a day eaten and 340 pounds MAX.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 01:05:39 PM
bullshit, real stats, 6,000 calories a day eaten and 340 pounds MAX.

I think even Victor Richards admitted that he ate only 6-8K after the BS about 20-30K.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 01:06:30 PM
I would not do it for sure.

like I said, I am eating 6k a day right now and I don't think I could eat much.
maybe these guys know how to simulate the appetite but 6k is all I can handle right now
no offense Stav because i think you're a good guy and you look great but i SERIOUSLY doubt you're eating 6K calories a day.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 07, 2008, 01:11:29 PM
6k is when I eat a desert almost every meal

no desert it's about 4.5k-5000k.

it gets high real fast when you count the calories from ice cream and things like that
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 01:14:56 PM
I think even Victor Richards admitted that he ate only 6-8K after the BS about 20-30K.
hahahahaa, 440 pounds of muscle and 1,200 grams of protein a day, does the bullshit ever stop around here? :D
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: suckmymuscle on August 07, 2008, 01:20:16 PM
bullshit, real stats, 6,000 calories a day eaten and 340 pounds MAX.

  Jean-Pierre Fux met Kovacs at a seminar in Toronto back in 2001 and said that Kovacs was so huge that he felt small next to him, and Fux was a monster who compterd at 280 lbs and was 320 lbs in the off-season. I have actually seen pictures of Kovacs at 400 lbs where he had a visible christmas-tree and a four pack. According to many, he still looked decent at 440 lbs and could do incline dumbbell presses with 300 lbs dumbbells and military front presses with 550 lbs for 6 reps. The guy was just a super-freak of Nature the likes of which we'll probably never see again.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 01:21:55 PM
 Jean-Pierre Fux met Kovacs at a seminar in Toronto back in 2001 and said that Kovacs was so huge that he felt small next to him, and Fux was a monster who compterd at 280 lbs and was 320 lbs in the off-season. I have actually seen pictures of Kovacs at 400 lbs where he had a visible christmas-tree and a four pack. According to many, he still looked decent at 400 lbs and could do incline dumbbell presses with 300 lbs dumbbells and military front presses with 550 lbs for 6 reps. The guy was just a super-freak of Nature the likes of which we'll probably never see again.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa, man oh man i need some of what you guys are smoking, 18K cal a day diets, 400 pounds of muscle, 550 pound shoulder presses, i must be dreaming.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: suckmymuscle on August 07, 2008, 01:26:19 PM
hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa, man oh man i need some of what you guys are smoking, 18K cal a day diets, 400 pounds of muscle,

  Kovacs had a technique where he stetched his stomach to allow maxium food intake, and he would blend all food in a blender so as to bypass the digestion process. When you realize that he inclne pressed 300 lbs dumbbells, you understand that he needed this caloric intake to make his mass and workouts viable. Yes, he was relatively shredded at 400 lbs and stil didn't look fat at 440 lbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
could do incline dumbbell presses with 300 lbs dumbbells

WHAT THE HELL??!!

Do you actually believe this?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2008, 01:52:35 PM
 Greg Kovacs used to eat as much as 18,000 calories and 1,200 grams of protein a day when he weighted around 440 lbs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
bullshit, real stats, 6,000 calories a day eaten and 340 pounds MAX.
You are out of your mine if you think Kovacs is 340, and even crazier if you think the guy eats 6000 cal. i know kovacs he attends all the the shows around here, soutwestern On. I see him all the time and he is 370-380 right know easy. And the last time I saw him someone took his order to get food from McDonalds and he ordered 6 Big Macs, no lie. You = a nobody of course you couldn't do it but some can and even more.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 07, 2008, 01:54:02 PM
You are out of your mine if you think Kovacs is 340, and even crazier if you think the guy eats 6000 cal. i know kovacs he attends all the the shows around here, soutwestern On. I see him all the time and he is 370-380 right know easy. And the last time I saw him someone took his order to get food from McDonalds and he ordered 6 Big Macs, no lie. You = a nobody of course you couldn't do it but some can and even more.
when i see him on a scale at 440 pounds i'll apologize, till then.................... ...booooooolshit.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2008, 01:59:22 PM
when i see him on a scale at 440 pounds i'll apologize, till then.................... ...booooooolshit.
No I admit 440 is pushing it, but he has held 400 for etended periods of time (6 months). And can easily hold abs at 350. Believe me I would never in a million years want to look like him, and as a bodybuilder it doesn`t look good, but when you see him its mind boggling.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: S_Samuel on August 07, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
so so much food... why would guy want to force himself 6 big mac? eat chicken, fish, steak, beef, eggs... so what if kovac is 440lb... nobody wanna carry that much weight(fat)...
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: suckmymuscle on August 07, 2008, 02:20:48 PM
when i see him on a scale at 440 pounds i'll apologize, till then.................... ...booooooolshit.

  I never claimed Kovacs was shredded at 440 lbs, only that he wasn't fat at that weight. He has been 400 lbs with a visible four-pack and christmas tree. I've seen it!

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: liquid_c on August 07, 2008, 02:22:03 PM
12k cal?  Do you realize how much true food that is.  Perfect example of throwing out a number but not taking the real time to see how much that really is.  If you watch that program about the obese people, one of them eats about 15k a day and the 15k was a large table LOADED I mean loaded with crappy fattening food.  No pro eats 12k a day period, at least not for any period of time.  That amount of calories for any period of time would make anyone fat no matter how active you were or how much muscle you had.  

If you ate 6 meals a day, ate a fully loaded Double Whopper with cheese, an extra large Fry, and a 24oz regular mountain dew with no ice, for all 6 meals, you would still be about 1200 calories short.  
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2008, 02:46:31 PM
12k cal?  Do you realize how much true food that is.  Perfect example of throwing out a number but not taking the real time to see how much that really is.  If you watch that program about the obese people, one of them eats about 15k a day and the 15k was a large table LOADED I mean loaded with crappy fattening food.  No pro eats 12k a day period, at least not for any period of time.  That amount of calories for any period of time would make anyone fat no matter how active you were or how much muscle you had.  

If you ate 6 meals a day, ate a fully loaded Double Whopper with cheese, an extra large Fry, and a 24oz regular mountain dew with no ice, for all 6 meals, you would still be about 1200 calories short.  
Do you realize who many people 6 billion is, examine that, the top guys will eat that much and then some. Bro I drink 2 liters of milk and 2 liters of juice a day no problem and thats 3000 cal, a querter of the way there and so far only liquid, n o one is saying its easy, being a bodybuilder isn`t, but for some pros its neccessary and they do it, simple as that
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: _bruce_ on August 07, 2008, 03:53:40 PM
The one fatty, from England I think, with the 13.000 kcal intake per day is somewhat "proof" that such astronomical cal intake is kinda strange.
How can one person eating 8.000 - 12.000 kcal stay relatively lean... drugs, training, genetics included while another person is morbidly obese eating a few thousand more?
Many women brag about eating only an apple a day - seems dudes brag about the opposite...




Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: bigmikecox on August 07, 2008, 04:45:07 PM
not of 'clean food'

alot of them are pot heads though, and a couple pizzas addds up quick  ;D

Roll it up, Light it up, inhale...exhale....Hits from da Bong!!!!


Mmmm, 2 large chicken pizza's with green peppers and oinions...no chesse
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: tweeter on August 07, 2008, 08:06:55 PM
Do you realize who many people 6 billion is, examine that, the top guys will eat that much and then some. Bro I drink 2 liters of milk and 2 liters of juice a day no problem and thats 3000 cal, a querter of the way there and so far only liquid, n o one is saying its easy, being a bodybuilder isn`t, but for some pros its neccessary and they do it, simple as that
Oh brother ::)
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: OTHstrong on August 07, 2008, 08:13:11 PM
Oh brother ::)
Oh brother, how original 8)
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 08, 2008, 02:51:00 AM
until i see proof no pro on earth eats 12K calories a day, you don't realize how much food that is.
Just train and stay always with naticional level or professical superheavy competitors. You will witness it.
They are unreal.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on August 08, 2008, 06:08:56 AM
Mitts missed out a few meals

If you watch Ronnies other DVD 'Relentless' it shows him eating all his meals, which is quite abit
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 08, 2008, 08:03:05 AM
Oh brother ::)
that's just the tip of the iceberg with this clown "onetimehard" tweeter, he also admits to taking over 3 grams of gear a week, claims to take 250mg., yes you read that right 250mg. of ephedrine a day, claims he'll be an IFBB pro in a couple of years and weighs a whopping 205 onstage at 5'9".
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: FlexGuns on August 08, 2008, 08:27:12 AM
right now I am force feeding myself and I eat about 5000 calories of clean food a day. 6000 when I decide to eat some ice cream.

that's a fuck load of food(for me at least) and I want to trow up everyday when I go to sleep because my belly is so bloated


I call bullshit on anyone claiming to eat more than 7-8000 calories a day of clean food

Stavios, you are 150 pounds. If you can eat 5000 calories, a pro bodybuilder can eat at least 8-9000, maybe more sometimes.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: JohnnyVegas on August 08, 2008, 08:33:01 AM
Do you realize who many people 6 billion is, examine that, the top guys will eat that much and then some. Bro I drink 2 liters of milk and 2 liters of juice a day no problem and thats 3000 cal, a querter of the way there and so far only liquid, n o one is saying its easy, being a bodybuilder isn`t, but for some pros its neccessary and they do it, simple as that

You're no pro OTH, and to be honest you're really not a national level competitor either.


that's just the tip of the iceberg with this clown "onetimehard" tweeter, he also admits to taking over 3 grams of gear a week, claims to take 250mg., yes you read that right 250mg. of ephedrine a day, claims he'll be an IFBB pro in a couple of years and weighs a whopping 205 onstage at 5'9".

Squad, STFU, you're a fat tub of lrad and have no room to talk shit.

Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 08, 2008, 08:36:29 AM
You're no pro OTH, and to be honest you're really not a national level competitor either.


Squad, STFU, you're a fat tub of lrad and have no room to talk shit.


and you're not? :D
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: temper35 on August 08, 2008, 09:24:29 AM
Why in the world would you need 6000 calories to grow Stav?  That is insane.

People eat way too much.  Michael Phelps said he eats 4000 calories a day on competition days. 

A world class, LEAN, gold medal winning, world record breaking SWIMMER eats 4000 calories a day and probably has more functional strength than most people on this forum, eats much less food than someone eating SIX THOUSAND calories to try and put on a few pounds of muscle?  Oh, Phelps is also supposedly natural since they are tested even though we all know it isn't hard to beat the tests.

I am not knocking u Stav, I just don't get that at all.  Can you explain the logic?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: QuakerOats on August 08, 2008, 09:26:07 AM
Why in the world would you need 6000 calories to grow Stav?  That is insane.

People eat way too much.  Michael Phelps said he eats 4000 calories a day on competition days. 

A world class, LEAN, gold medal winning, world record breaking SWIMMER eats 4000 calories a day and probably has more functional strength than most people on this forum, eats much less food than someone eating SIX THOUSAND calories to try and put on a few pounds of muscle?  Oh, Phelps is also supposedly natural since they are tested even though we all know it isn't hard to beat the tests.

I am not knocking u Stav, I just don't get that at all.  Can you explain the logic?
like i said before i think he's DRASTICALLY overestimating how much he's really eating.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: kyomu on August 08, 2008, 09:43:42 AM
Hey you guys,Think about it once.

How come you know 5000-6000 of calories are unnecesary for Stavios?
Why you guys are so confident about the limit of absorption of nutrients of our body?
We asimilate same amounts even if you workout twice longer and more intense than before?
Did you guys have some experience?

Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Benny B on August 08, 2008, 10:07:04 AM
QuakerOats definitely appears to eat 8,000 to 10,000 calories per day. It's not working out too well for him though.  :-\
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 08, 2008, 10:51:08 AM
like i said before i think he's DRASTICALLY overestimating how much he's really eating.

Dave, ONLY with my 3 shakes meal (I eat 3 big meals and 3 shake meals )


my shake meals are 60 grams of protein and I eat 10 packs of sugared oatmeal with that (I eat the whole box)

that alone is like 1200 calories x 3 = 3600 calories.

and that's half the meals.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 08, 2008, 10:52:58 AM
Why in the world would you need 6000 calories to grow Stav?  That is insane.

People eat way too much.  Michael Phelps said he eats 4000 calories a day on competition days. 

A world class, LEAN, gold medal winning, world record breaking SWIMMER eats 4000 calories a day and probably has more functional strength than most people on this forum, eats much less food than someone eating SIX THOUSAND calories to try and put on a few pounds of muscle?  Oh, Phelps is also supposedly natural since they are tested even though we all know it isn't hard to beat the tests.

I am not knocking u Stav, I just don't get that at all.  Can you explain the logic?

I don't have any logic. I am just tired of training whitout gaining a lot of muscle mass .

I gained like 3-4 pounds of muscle MAX last year, that's pathetic and I was eating around 4k calories the whole year.

now eating like that I weight 238 right now and I still see the abs, so I guess I needed more food.
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Go 4 It on August 08, 2008, 10:55:05 AM
Dave, ONLY with my 3 shakes meal (I eat 3 big meals and 3 shake meals )


my shake meals are 60 grams of protein and I eat 10 packs of sugared oatmeal with that (I eat the whole box)

that alone is like 1200 calories x 3 = 3600 calories.

and that's half the meals.

10 packs in each shake?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 08, 2008, 10:56:43 AM
10 packs in each shake?
no, that would be disgusting.

I eat the oatmeal separatly
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Go 4 It on August 08, 2008, 11:01:48 AM
But you eat a box with each shake?
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Stavios on August 08, 2008, 11:05:55 AM
But you eat a box with each shake?

yes !

it's pretty cool cause they have like 6 or 7 flavors so you never get sick of eating it. it always taste a little different
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: Go 4 It on August 08, 2008, 11:08:38 AM
Gotcha, yeah those packets are pretty small, but I like the Maple Brown sugar flavor for sure!
Title: Re: Pacos comment on Ronnies meals in his video.
Post by: liquid_c on August 08, 2008, 11:15:06 AM
Other  things that you would have to eat to get to 12k calories:

10.7lbs of Filet Mignon with 1/2" of fat trimming a day

4.1LBS of Raw Peanuts

73 cans of Mountain Dew Regular

5 Gallons of Whole Milk

Just to put things into perspective of what we are talking about when someone mentions 12k calories.