Author Topic: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Sugar Shane IS TODAY (Saturday, May 7th) (Read 31995 times)

devilsmile · « **Reply #50 on:** May 07, 2011, 05:38:25 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on May 07, 2011, 04:42:23 AM

Where is Swede?

where is sweeeeede, for REAL!

maby some persian muslim guy who claims to be spanish (even though sand people look nothing like spanish) in the clubs snipered him....

G_Thang · « **Reply #51 on:** May 07, 2011, 06:17:13 AM »

if he has any chance in this fight, he'll have to give up the 1st 6rds, crowd pac and lay on him on the ropes, use his size as an advantage, just punch to the body and arms. he wont win on points so giving up the 1st couple rounds and a point deduction for clinching and elbows are irrelevant vs wearing down a smaller man, and finding his chin late in the fight . brother naz is a fool if he lets shane fight pac the 1st 6 rds. and pac is not going to stand in front of him like fmw did, so he wont slip a right in there.

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oldtimer1 · « **Reply #52 on:** May 07, 2011, 06:44:13 AM »

The problem with Manny is that he is a true lightweight. Going up to welterweight he loses endurance and his power might not be up to the best in the welterweight division.

How many fighters are great in their weight class and then for bigger pay days they go up a class or two? Many times they lose what made them so good.

Imagine being at your fastest weight for a 5K and then gaining 10 pounds for a new weight class trying to have the same conditioning. It can be done but Manny has a small frame. Shane is a natural for the weight class.

I think Manny will win but don't be suprised if Shane knocks him out.

Jaime · « **Reply #53 on:** May 07, 2011, 06:55:10 AM »

Quote from: che on April 04, 2011, 02:14:09 PM

He's not the greatest fighter ever but IMHO he's the best technical boxer ever.

What's that code for? Someone who takes zero risks while fighting?

Is he technically as good as Robinson, Pep, Whitaker? Guys that actually fought with balls.

And yes this is a joke fight, Mosley is done at the elite level.

Mayweather and Pacs career management is a disgrace.

local hero · « **Reply #54 on:** May 07, 2011, 07:05:07 AM »

Quote from: Jaime on May 07, 2011, 06:55:10 AM

What's that code for? Someone who takes zero risks while fighting?

Is he technically as good as Robinson, Pep, Whitaker? Guys that actually fought with balls.

And yes this is a joke fight, Mosley is done at the elite level.

Mayweather and Pacs career management is a disgrace.

i hate to agree with you on anything, but your 100% correct there

Jaime · « **Reply #55 on:** May 07, 2011, 07:17:11 AM »

Quote from: local hero on May 07, 2011, 07:05:07 AM

i hate to agree with you on anything, but your 100% correct there

No hard feelings.

che · « **Reply #56 on:** May 07, 2011, 07:17:28 AM »

Quote from: Jaime on May 07, 2011, 06:55:10 AM

Someone who takes zero risks while fighting?

Is he technically as good as Robinson, Pep, Whitaker? Guys that actually fought with balls.

He wins fights without taking risks , what's that tell you?

You may not like his style but Yes, technically he's superior to Robinson ,Pep and Whitaker ......

Jaime · « **Reply #57 on:** May 07, 2011, 07:27:43 AM »

Quote from: che on May 07, 2011, 07:17:28 AM

He wins fights without taking risks , what's that tell you?

You may not like his style but Yes, technically he's superior to Robinson ,Pep and Whitaker ......

No way man. He is straight up textbook with most of his ouput, It's rarer to improvise and mixing attack and defense creates opportunity's for your opponents. Some of the shit that Pep and Pea used to do would be impossible for Floyd to replicate.

Robinson would dominate him at welter, Pea would win too although it wasn't his best weight.

L00n · « **Reply #58 on:** May 07, 2011, 07:35:59 AM »

god damn..
sweet suprise for Mosley

G_Thang · « **Reply #59 on:** May 07, 2011, 08:55:03 AM »

Quote from: Jaime on May 07, 2011, 06:55:10 AM

Is he technically as good as Robinson, Pep, Whitaker? Guys that actually fought with balls.

Mayweather and Pacs career management is a disgrace.

Wrong styles. FMW would out point Whitaker in a sleeper. Robinson more of a slugger but a bit hand slow like Cotto. Pep?

at 147 FMW's defense and style is ass backwards for Hearns who would measure him on the ropes and end it somewhere after the 6th.
Ray Leonard, too slick, too much offense, too much chin, would clean the house with him like he did with his dad.

Whit had alot of Camacho and Prince Nas in him. FMW too technical for this type of BS.

maxkane69 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 07, 2011, 09:26:08 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 07, 2011, 08:55:03 AM

Wrong styles. FMW would out point Whitaker in a sleeper. Robinson more of a slugger but a bit hand slow like Cotto. Pep?

at 147 FMW's defense and style is ass backwards for Hearns who would measure him on the ropes and end it somewhere after the 6th.
Ray Leonard, too slick, too much offense, too much chin, would clean the house with him like he did with his dad.

Whit had alot of Camacho and Prince Nas in him. FMW too technical for this type of BS.

ARE YOU FUCKING OUT OF YOUR MIND? ROBINSON HAND SLOW SLUGGER?
YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING G-THONG!
ROBINSON WAS ONE OF THE FASTEST IF NOT THE FASTEST BOXER WHO EVER LIVED IN IN THE WELTERWEIGHT AND MIDDLEWEIGHT CLASS BESIDE HAVING A GREAT PUNCHINGPOWER ,GREAT CHIN AND TECNIQUE.
ROBINSON IS THE BEST BOXER OF ALL TIME WHO FOUGHT THE HARDEST OPPONENT.
ROBINSON AT WELTERWEIGHT WOULD KILL MAYWEATHER AND PACQUIAO!
NOBODY CAN TOUCH ROBINSON OR EVEN CAME CLOSE !
ROBINSON IS THE P4P BEST PERIOD!

maxkane69 · « **Reply #61 on:** May 07, 2011, 09:36:53 AM »

CHECK THIS VIDEO G-THONG!

ROBINSON THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!
THE ONLY MAN WHO CAN CAME CLOSE IN POWER DEPARTMENT BUT AT LIGHTWEIGHT WAS ROBERTO DURAN!

G_Thang · « **Reply #62 on:** May 07, 2011, 09:41:48 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on May 07, 2011, 09:26:08 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING OUT OF YOUR MIND? ROBINSON HAND SLOW SLUGGER?
YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING G-THONG!
ROBINSON WAS ONE OF THE FASTEST IF NOT THE FASTEST BOXER WHO EVER LIVED IN IN THE WELTERWEIGHT AND MIDDLEWEIGHT CLASS BESIDE HAVING A GREAT PUNCHINGPOWER ,GREAT CHIN AND TECNIQUE.
ROBINSON IS THE BEST BOXER OF ALL TIME WHO FOUGHT THE HARDEST OPPONENT.
ROBINSON AT WELTERWEIGHT WOULD KILL MAYWEATHER AND PACQUIAO!
NOBODY CAN TOUCH ROBINSON OR EVEN CAME CLOSE !
ROBINSON IS THE P4P BEST PERIOD!

robinson would not beat FMW who would out point him.

robinson would have lost to hearns at 147 in a nasty knockout.

magnificent power vs stationery chin first white fighters but you dont get this type of fight vs FMW.

robinson was not as fluid and slick as ray leonard who would give FMW's shoulder first protect my chin with the right style fits.

hating on fmw doesn't take away his technique and craft.

afraid. no, boxer is afraid. fmw is gun-shy with his undefeated record.

maxkane69 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 07, 2011, 09:43:37 AM »

ROBERTO DURAN THE GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT AND LATIN BOXER OF ALL TIME!

G_Thang · « **Reply #64 on:** May 07, 2011, 09:52:33 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on May 07, 2011, 09:43:37 AM

ROBERTO DURAN THE GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT AND LATIN BOXER OF ALL TIME!

classless b e a n e r! pushed leonard at the end of the 1st fight. got what he deserved in the 2nd fight and the vicious knockout by hearns who would have put his lights out at 147 early in their careers. probably the best LW ever, so no dispute.

maxkane69 · « **Reply #65 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:04:59 AM »

ROBINSON WOULD MURDER MAYWEATHER AND I REPEAT HE WOULD MURDER MAYWETHER!
IN HIS CAREEAR MAYWEATHER NEVER FOUGHT SO MANY HARD OPPONENT LIKE ROBINSON HAD TOO!
JACKE LA MOTTA ,CARMEN BASILIO,GENE FULLMER,ROCKY GRAZIANO ETC...
ROBINSON WAS A FEARLESS BOXER!
MAYWEATHER IS A COWARD AFRAID TO LOSE!
AND EVEN WITH HIS GREAT SKILL AND TECNIQUE IF FLOYD WAS BORN IN THE SAME ERA AS ROBINSON HE WOULD BE A NOBODY WITH HIS FRAIL HAND! REMEMBER AT THAT TIME BOXER HAD TO FIGHT EVERY MOUNTH WITH A LOT LESS HAND PROTECTION WITHIN THEIR GLOVES!
MAYWEATHER CARREER WOULD HAVE NOT HAVE SURVIVED ONE YEAR BOXING IN THAT ERA!

G_Thang · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:18:39 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on May 07, 2011, 10:04:59 AM

ROBINSON WOULD MURDER MAYWEATHER AND I REPEAT HE WOULD MURDER MAYWETHER!
IN HIS CAREEAR MAYWEATHER NEVER FOUGHT SO MANY HARD OPPONENT LIKE ROBINSON HAD TOO!
JACKE LA MOTTA ,CARMEN BASILIO,GENE FULLMER,ROCKY GRAZIANO ETC...
ROBINSON WAS A FEARLESS BOXER!
MAYWEATHER IS A COWARD AFRAID TO LOSE!
AND EVEN WITH HIS GREAT SKILL AND TECNIQUE IF FLOYD WAS BORN IN THE SAME ERA AS ROBINSON HE WOULD BE A NOBODY WITH HIS FRAIL HAND! REMEMBER AT THAT TIME BOXER HAD TO FIGHT EVERY MOUNTH WITH A LOT LESS HAND PROTECTION WITHIN THEIR GLOVES!
MAYWEATHER CARREER WOULD HAVE NOT HAVE SURVIVED ONE YEAR BOXING IN THAT ERA!

again, a fighter who isn't fluid as ray leonard or who doesn't have a clean one shot punch like hearns, fmw can ink out a points win with his style of just bait, clinch, counter and slide. the only reason mostley dropped those big rights on fmw because fmw went out of text to prove something Mosley and stood toe-toe with him.

robinson was great but dropped 19 fights or so, is on the top 10 ever, but fmw would milk out a win, 6-5-1 rounds.

Jaime · « **Reply #67 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:25:30 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 07, 2011, 08:55:03 AM

Wrong styles. FMW would out point Whitaker in a sleeper. Robinson more of a slugger but a bit hand slow like Cotto. Pep?

at 147 FMW's defense and style is ass backwards for Hearns who would measure him on the ropes and end it somewhere after the 6th.
Ray Leonard, too slick, too much offense, too much chin, would clean the house with him like he did with his dad.

Whit had alot of Camacho and Prince Nas in him. FMW too technical for this type of BS.

I think the opposite, i think Pea does most things as well as Floyd but is naturally more gifted and unorthodox. I think he outpoints him.The only thing he has in common with Naz is being unorthodox, Naz had shit defence and relied on his power way too much, Camacho and Whitaker have similarity's.

Robinson has way too much of everything, power, combinations, movement at welter for Floyd. Cotto handspeed? Come on bro.....Robinson had exceptional handspeed.

Pep was a featherweight so we would be talking about a lower weight. I would take Pep by decision, he had trouble with Sadler post plane crash/prime, but that was largely down to roughhousing and Saddler being a physical freak who couldn't give a fuck about boxing rules.

Hearns is a very bad style matchup i agree, but Hearns is a bad style matchup for 99% of welters that ever fought.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #68 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:28:55 AM »

Quote from: Option D on April 25, 2011, 02:08:31 PM

Shittin me right.. Manny in 3.. TKO

I agree but not that quick. Not that he couldn't it's just he won't. They'll drag this out for the full 12.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #69 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:32:09 AM »

Jaime · « **Reply #70 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:46:25 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 07, 2011, 10:18:39 AM

again, a fighter who isn't fluid as ray leonard or who doesn't have a clean one shot punch like hearns, fmw can ink out a points win with his style of just bait, clinch, counter and slide. the only reason mostley dropped those big rights on fmw because fmw went out of text to prove something Mosley and stood toe-toe with him.

robinson was great but dropped 19 fights or so, is on the top 10 ever, but fmw would milk out a win, 6-5-1 rounds.

You clearly don't know the difference in era's. A lot of Ray's losses were post prime at middle and fighting in a great middleweight era, far higher fight regularity and not much emphasis placed on the O. He was a big puncher. His amateur record was 89 bouts, 69 of which were knockouts, 40 in the first round. He was about 131-1 at one point as a pro or something stupid at one point. He pretty much did everything better than Leonard, though Leonard at his best was great too.

maxkane69 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:47:35 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 07, 2011, 10:18:39 AM

again, a fighter who isn't fluid as ray leonard or who doesn't have a clean one shot punch like hearns, fmw can ink out a points win with his style of just bait, clinch, counter and slide. the only reason mostley dropped those big rights on fmw because fmw went out of text to prove something Mosley and stood toe-toe with him.

robinson was great but dropped 19 fights or so, is on the top 10 ever, but fmw would milk out a win, 6-5-1 rounds.

LOL! AT ROBINSON LOST 19 FIGHT!
OF CORSE HE LOST 19 (1 KO) FIGHT. HE FOUGHT 200 TIMES,WON 173 (108 KO),DRAW 6, PLUS 2 NO CONTEST, IN A VERY LONG CAREEAR (25 YEARS)!
AT ONE TIME HE HAD ABOUT 100 CONSECUTIVE VICTORY!
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FLOYD TRY TO EMULATE THAT!
BY THE WAY CHECK HIS RECORD!

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009625&cat=boxer

maxkane69 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:50:19 AM »

Quote from: Jaime on May 07, 2011, 10:46:25 AM

You clearly don't know the difference in era's. A lot of Ray's losses were post prime at middle and fighting in a great middleweight era, far higher fight regularity and not much emphasis placed on the O. He was a big puncher. His amateur record was 89 bouts, 69 of which were knockouts, 40 in the first round. He was about 131-1 at one point as a pro or something stupid at one point. He pretty much did everything better than Leonard, though Leonard at his best was great too.

THANK YOU JAIME!

maxkane69 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 07, 2011, 11:13:30 AM »

BY THE WAY THAT ROBINSON IS THE GREATEST EVER IS NOT ONLY MY OPINION BUT ALSO THEOPINION OF BOXING EXPERTS( AND EVEN ROGER MAYWETHER THINK ROBINSON IS THE GREATEST: HE SAID THAT MANY TIMES)!

ESPN RANKING!

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/50_greatest.htm

G_Thang · « **Reply #74 on:** May 07, 2011, 11:18:21 AM »

Quote from: maxkane69 on May 07, 2011, 10:47:35 AM

LOL! AT ROBINSON LOST 19 FIGHT!
OF CORSE HE LOST 19 (1 KO) FIGHT. HE FOUGHT 200 TIMES,WON 173 (108 KO),DRAW 6, PLUS 2 NO CONTEST, IN A VERY LONG CAREEAR (25 YEARS)!
AT ONE TIME HE HAD ABOUT 100 CONSECUTIVE VICTORY!
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FLOYD TRY TO EMULATE THAT!
BY THE WAY CHECK HIS RECORD!

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009625&cat=boxer

whytf did i even bother? he only had one fight at 149 3/4. he'd be fucked trying to make weight with a fmw fight. thanks for your getbig knownledge. how about comparing him to hagler at 157-160? they list him as welterweight in resources. he was in and out the division like manny skipping weights and fighting BS.

like i said, fmw would out point his dehydrated ass, 6-5-1 rounds.

fmw would get ko'ed by hearns and outworked by leonard.