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Eat it. Back, back, back on top, top, top. Sing it with me! G-Men!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patriots who?
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I saw it like this:
Houston#1 Loved their draft.
Pats #2 They went in with 6 day one picks and came out with 12 players and an extra 2 - 2 round draft choices for 2010.
Jets#3 Quality vs Quantity
Giants#4 Loved their wr's that they took
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The Eagles got the 2nd best WR in the draft...Jeremy Maclin
Got the next Brian Westbrook in the second round...Lesean McCoy
and got the steals of the draft in the 5th...Cornelius Ingram and Macho Harris
plus got Ellis Hobbs for next to nothing
and add Jason Peters who they stole from the Bills...
I'd say a pretty good weekend.
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Eat it. Back, back, back on top, top, top. Sing it with me! G-Men!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patriots who?
we had a solid draft no doubt. But the pack got 2 of the top 10 prospects, arguably.
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None of is matters, since prospects are coveted differently by each team. 3 years from now we will know. Different teams want different players for different jobs.
More than 60% of these big name prospects will be nothing more than average NFL players anyway.
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None of is matters, since prospects are coveted differently by each team. 3 years from now we will know. Different teams want different players for different jobs.
More than 60% of these big name prospects will be nothing more than average NFL players anyway.
thats not true. Most teams with early picks will often take the best possible player available. If you get 2 census top 10 picks, you did good.
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thats not true. Most teams with early picks will often take the best possible player available. If you get 2 census top 10 picks, you did good.
It about if those players help your team win. To much money for unproven guys at the very top of the draft.
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It about if those players help your team win. To much money for unproven guys at the very top of the draft.
in the case of the packers, those players should fit PERFECTLY into their new 3-4 scheme.
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The Jets got a one year starter, I don't know. I think the Giants did well with the FA"s and should be good next year.
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in the case of the packers, those players should fit PERFECTLY into their new 3-4 scheme.
Raji yes - Not sold on Clay yet. Well see how Mathews does shedding 300 lb ot's. He had to juice his brains oout to get to 240. They had a good draft but I named the teams who I thought did better.
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RAIDERS...DUH
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Raji yes - Not sold on Clay yet. Well see how Mathews does shedding 300 lb ot's. He had to juice his brains oout to get to 240. They had a good draft but I named the teams who I thought did better.
im completely in compliance with clay. I just think people are seeing something theyre not going to get with him. He's definitly hyped
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im completely in compliance with clay. I just think people are seeing something theyre not going to get with him. He's definitly hyped
He's a boom or bust guy for sure. On one hand, he's fast as hell, smart and comes from great bloodlines....on the other, he had to juice pretty hard to go from 180 at 6'3 to the 240 that he is now. I liked him and many people had the pats taking him, but when I took some time to look at the film, I walked away a bit wary of him.
To me, the team that had the best draft (from an improvement standpoint) was the Houston Texans. Adding Cushing and Barwin to that loaded d was a great move. They have tons of young talent and I think they improved most.
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houston took caldwell the center from bama, i think he can become a backup right away and be a solid pro.
Im nots old on cushing though. not at all.
That defense from usc played a bum conference but they were godly. Everyone looked good on that defense.
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houston took caldwell the center from bama, i think he can become a backup right away and be a solid pro.
Im nots old on cushing though. not at all.
That defense from usc played a bum conference but they were godly. Everyone looked good on that defense.
we also took 2 TE im not sure what the thinking is behind that owens is a pretty damn good TE so ??? he isnt the best blocker but a real good reciever. Other then that I think we did a damn good job filling in postions that needed to be.
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houston took caldwell the center from bama, i think he can become a backup right away and be a solid pro.
Im nots old on cushing though. not at all.
That defense from usc played a bum conference but they were godly. Everyone looked good on that defense.
I liked their draft. Cush was the best of the USC guys, but your right, none of them are can't miss prospects. You see guys like Cush and Clay who have to go through extreme measures to get NFL size and you wonder if their body will hold up. All in all I think he is going to be a good player, but there could be an injury issue with him. He's ob on the sauce and his body is holding as much size as it's going to get.
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Giants signed 3 undrafted safeties.expect at least 1 of them to stick.they have no backups.
and the selection of the RB Brown from N.C. state was a good pick up.
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Although you really can't answer a question like this for about three years, I love the Crabtree pick. One of the true studs of the draft IMO. Thank you Al Davis. :)
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Steelers never get that STUD STUD in the draft. Well he isnt declared a stud at draft time. We develop players very well. Well Troy was a stud going into the draft. but big ben wasnt. So draft time isnt really exciting for me because we never make a big splash and go for the "sexy" picks
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Although you really can't answer a question like this for about three years, I love the Crabtree pick. One of the true studs of the draft IMO. Thank you Al Davis. :)
youre kidding right? He's the most over hyped fucker in 5 years.
He comes from an EXTREMELY pass heavy offense....matched up with that WEAK big12 conference defenses. He barely was forced to play in press coverage AT ALL. Trust me...they let him roam free. Not t mention he's 6'1'' barely and runs a 4.6...al davis is goffing at you. I can go on and on
the 9'rs bit the bullet drafting a slot reciver at # 10
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Steelers never get that STUD STUD in the draft. Well he isnt declared a stud at draft time. We develop players very well. Well Troy was a stud going into the draft. but big ben wasnt. So draft time isnt really exciting for me because we never make a big splash and go for the "sexy" picks
Just like the pats. Although they did get Mayo last year with SF's pick.
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Just like the pats. Although they did get Mayo last year with SF's pick.
richard seymour?
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richard seymour?
Back when they stunk.
Since then (round one):
Ty Warren (DE)
Vince Wilfork (NT)
Logan Mankins (OG)
Daniel Graham (TE)
Ben Watson (TE)
Lawrence Maroney (RB)
Jerod Mayo (SF's pick)
All those guys were taken later in the first round, and aside from maroney, I would not consider any of them "sexy".
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well warren and watson were flat out studs
mayo is a sexy pick if you ask me.
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well warren and watson were flat out studs
mayo is a sexy pick if you ask me.
Yes they are studs, but you don't think of "sexy" when drafting DT's. Mayo is a stud and they drafted him with SF's pick.....I did say above that aside from Mayo, they have not drafted any "sexy" picks.
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youre kidding right? He's the most over hyped fucker in 5 years.
He comes from an EXTREMELY pass heavy offense....matched up with that WEAK big12 conference defenses. He barely was forced to play in press coverage AT ALL. Trust me...they let him roam free. Not t mention he's 6'1'' barely and runs a 4.6...al davis is goffing at you. I can go on and on
the 9'rs bit the bullet drafting a slot reciver at # 10
I disagree. Have you watched him play? I've watched him several times and his numbers are no fluke. Terrific hands. Great route running. Great feet. Excellent football speed. I could care less about his 40 time. Forty times don't mean squat, particularly when a player has produced like Crabtree.
Barely 6'1? Like that's a problem? How tall was Jerry Rice? How tall is Steve Smith?
If you want to talk about a mistake, it's Heyward-Bey. He has Troy Williamson written all over him. Both ran blazing combine 40s. Neither produced on the field. I'll take a player like Boldin who ran a 4.6, but can play, over a guy like Williamson who ran about a sub 4.3, but can't play.
Crabtree is a great football player. Very happy the Niners drafted him.
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I disagree. Have you watched him play? I've watched him several times and his numbers are no fluke. Terrific hands. Great route running. Great feet. Excellent football speed. I could care less about his 40 time. Forty times don't mean squat, particularly when a player has produced like Crabtree.
Barely 6'1? Like that's a problem? How tall was Jerry Rice? How tall is Steve Smith?
If you want to talk about a mistake, it's Heyward-Bey. He has Troy Williamson written all over him. Both ran blazing combine 40s. Neither produced on the field. I'll take a player like Boldin who ran a 4.6, but can play, over a guy like Williamson who ran about a sub 4.3, but can't play.
Crabtree is a great football player. Very happy the Niners drafted him.
did you not read what i said? texas tech system is spread offense oriented meaning HEAVY PASS. Of course he will have inflated stats, match that with little to no bump coverage and soft zone d from big 12 defenses, gave him whatever he wanted.
When you speak of his production, its all VOID. He is a SYSTEM GUY.
how tall was rice? about 6'3. Steve smith? 5'9'' but runs a 4.3 and is put together like a brick shit house.
Can we see some highlights that dont include that miracle catch against texas and that td against a soft kansas state zone defense in the red zone.wait. There are no highlights. There is nothing that warrants taking him at number 10. Heyward-bay ran a 4.3 flat.He had 3 solid seasons in a pro style offesne, not some pass heavy spread offense in a WEAK defenive conference ala big12.
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did you not read what i said? texas tech system is spread offense oriented meaning HEAVY PASS. Of course he will have inflated stats, match that with little to no bump coverage and soft zone d from big 12 defenses, gave him whatever he wanted.
When you speak of his production, its all VOID. He is a SYSTEM GUY.
how tall was rice? about 6'3. Steve smith? 5'9'' but runs a 4.3 and is put together like a brick shit house.
Can we see some highlights that dont include that miracle catch against texas and that td against a soft kansas state zone defense in the red zone.wait. There are no highlights. There is nothing that warrants taking him at number 10. Heyward-bay ran a 4.3 flat.He had 3 solid seasons in a pro style offesne, not some pass heavy spread offense in a WEAK defenive conference ala big12.
Yes I read what you said. I disagree with you. He isn't just a product of a "system." I doubt you've actually watched him play. I don't care what kind of system you play in. You don't catch the ball any differently in a "spread" offense than an option offense. Obviously, the opportunities to catch the ball are greater in a spread offense, but a great WR is great regardless of the "system." That "system" argument is pretty shallow.
Jerry Rice was 6'2", about an inch taller than Crabtree. Steve Smith built like a brick house? lol . . . He's 5'9" 185 pounds. lol . . .
Heyward-Bey "had 3 solid seasons"? Dude . . . . Here are his stats:
2006: 45 for 694, 5 TDs
2007: 51 for 786, 3 TDs
2008: 42 for 609, 5 TDs
http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=169167
That's terrible, particularly for a guy who runs a 4.3. If a guy truly has great football speed, he'll produce much better than Heyward-Bey.
Crabtree played in a weak conference and Heyward-Bey didn't? Uh . . . no.
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my steelers filled a lot of needs on paper, hopefully these guys are capable of playing
i'm sure the 1st round pick evander 'ziggy' hood will be a stud, haven't missed on a 1st round guy since troy edwards in 99
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Team like the Steelers,Pats and lately the G-men don't make "sexy" picks because they are drafting at the bottom.
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Team like the Steelers,Pats and lately the G-men don't make "sexy" picks because they are drafting at the bottom.
Thats true, but the teams you just mentioned are most likley to take lb's, dt's, de's and ot's even if they do pick high. The pats traded back from the number 7 pick (SF's pick) to 10 and they took Mayo.
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Thats true, but the teams you just mentioned are most likley to take lb's, dt's, de's and ot's even if they do pick high. The pats traded back from the number 7 pick (SF's pick) to 10 and they took Mayo.
Old school George Young.you wanna build a team that wins,start on the lines.
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Team like the Steelers,Pats and lately the G-men don't make "sexy" picks because they are drafting at the bottom.
you=absolutley right
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Yes I read what you said. I disagree with you. He isn't just a product of a "system." I doubt you've actually watched him play. I don't care what kind of system you play in. You don't catch the ball any differently in a "spread" offense than an option offense. Obviously, the opportunities to catch the ball are greater in a spread offense, but a great WR is great regardless of the "system." That "system" argument is pretty shallow.
Jerry Rice was 6'2", about an inch taller than Crabtree. Steve Smith built like a brick house? lol . . . He's 5'9" 185 pounds. lol . . .
Heyward-Bey "had 3 solid seasons"? Dude . . . . Here are his stats:
2006: 45 for 694, 5 TDs
2007: 51 for 786, 3 TDs
2008: 42 for 609, 5 TDs
http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=169167
That's terrible, particularly for a guy who runs a 4.3. If a guy truly has great football speed, he'll produce much better than Heyward-Bey.
Crabtree played in a weak conference and Heyward-Bey didn't? Uh . . . no.
yes. bb. Big 12 defenses vs. acc defenses. Look up the statistics. Big 12 defenses are WEAK. I'm gonna end this filla buster right now. theres no point in debating logic with a casual college football fan. Heywar bey played in a pro style offense. When a team passes 60 times a game....ala texas tech, chances are you might have a better statistical year rather than playing in a pro style offense. Do you know what pro style offense consists of? run first, play action, hb screens, full house toss etc. Not lining up with 5 wr sets every down.
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yes. bb. Big 12 defenses vs. acc defenses. Look up the statistics. Big 12 defenses are WEAK. I'm gonna end this filla buster right now. theres no point in debating logic with a casual college football fan. Heywar bey played in a pro style offense. When a team passes 60 times a game....ala texas tech, chances are you might have a better statistical year rather than playing in a pro style offense. Do you know what pro style offense consists of? run first, play action, hb screens, full house toss etc. Not lining up with 5 wr sets every down.
Things are changing. Pats have been using the spread for years. Lots of empty back fields and pass first downs used as a running game. They switch it up and hammer you with the run at times, but other times they throw. Crabtree would be sick in the pats O.
You're seeing more and more "spread" style O's in the pros.
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yes. bb. Big 12 defenses vs. acc defenses. Look up the statistics. Big 12 defenses are WEAK. I'm gonna end this filla buster right now. theres no point in debating logic with a casual college football fan. Heywar bey played in a pro style offense. When a team passes 60 times a game....ala texas tech, chances are you might have a better statistical year rather than playing in a pro style offense. Do you know what pro style offense consists of? run first, play action, hb screens, full house toss etc. Not lining up with 5 wr sets every down.
Got a point there...But i think all in all, Crabtree is a better WR...But i see the point. Would be interesting to see what Crabtree would have done in MD..He seems to have better ball skills when the ball is in the air. Runs better routes, and better RAC than BEY. IMO Bey will be the 2nd comming of James Jett
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but but but the niners...with their new coach singletary will be featuring a RUN first offense.
hes implementing a very pro style offense.
body..you know how weak those big 12 defenses were...and you know how much tt passed every game...at least 50+ times a game.
of course crabtree will have better stats then bay who plays in a very pro style type of scheme.
many good wr's in the nfl dont grab 5td' per year and they play 17 games. not 12.
BB thinks crabby is the second coming of jesus because of his production. OFCOURSE he put up numbers. so did grahm and he wasnt drafted. Same thing with colt brenan...a system guy.
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Things are changing. Pats have been using the spread for years. Lots of empty back fields and pass first downs used as a running game. They switch it up and hammer you with the run at times, but other times they throw. Crabtree would be sick in the pats O.
You're seeing more and more "spread" style O's in the pros.
But not like College. Simply because this. Let the pats try and run that spread style against the NY giants or Carolina panthers. The pass rush gets there too fast to run those empty sets. Oh yeah PAts tried that in the superbowl and Brady (who gained all the respect in world for his superbowl preformance...yeah i said it...) was on his wallet the whole game.
Sidebar...Brady= has biggest nuts in the world (no homo) he stood in there and got hit time after time. A real football player sees that as greatness
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but but but the niners...with their new coach singletary will be featuring a RUN first offense.
hes implementing a very pro style offense.
body..you know how weak those big 12 defenses were...and you know how much tt passed every game...at least 50+ times a game.
of course crabtree will have better stats then bay who plays in a very pro style type of scheme.
many good wr's in the nfl dont grab 5td' per year and they play 17 games. not 12.
BB thinks crabby is the second coming of jesus because of his production. OFCOURSE he put up numbers. so did grahm and he wasnt drafted. Same thing with colt brenan...a system guy.
Chang and Gram and Sonny (remember him from TT) yeah those are system guys...but I think Colt is the real deal...he makes awesome throws in the redskins boring ass 2wr offense...i think he is better than Campbell right now
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youre crazy if you think hes better than campbell...#17 is SOLID. He just needs a better line.
and im not arguing that crabby is a better wr. BB is the one who mentioned bay.
im just saying that there is nothing that constitutes taking crabby at #10.
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youre crazy if you think hes better than campbell...#17 is SOLID. He just needs a better line.
and im not arguing that crabby is a better wr. BB is the one who mentioned bay.
im just saying that there is nothing that constitutes taking crabby at #10.
Campbell is a good game manager, but no eye popping numbers. He = Trent Dilfer.
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Campbell is a good game manager, but no eye popping numbers. He = Trent Dilfer.
he doesnt have to though....cp ran for 2k yards. At the end of the year the line just didnt do its job properly...cp got most of his yards in the first half of the season and jc got most of tds there also.
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he doesnt have to though....cp ran for 2k yards. At the end of the year the line just didnt do its job properly...cp got most of his yards in the first half of the season and jc got most of tds there also.
Yeah he balled out crazy...They dont pass block too well
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but but but the niners...with their new coach singletary will be featuring a RUN first offense.
hes implementing a very pro style offense.
body..you know how weak those big 12 defenses were...and you know how much tt passed every game...at least 50+ times a game.
of course crabtree will have better stats then bay who plays in a very pro style type of scheme.
many good wr's in the nfl dont grab 5td' per year and they play 17 games. not 12.
BB thinks crabby is the second coming of jesus because of his production. OFCOURSE he put up numbers. so did grahm and he wasnt drafted. Same thing with colt brenan...a system guy.
Not saying that I disagree with you, fully. I disagree with you about Crabtree being highly overrated. Put him on the Pats, the Colts or on the Cards and he is a stud. However, you are correct about Crabtree being a perplexing pick for a run first defensive minded coach. Knicks might have been a better pick. Its a reach sure, but he's got strong hands and he's physical. Shit, come to think of it, they could have traded down and then nabbed Robinski or Britt on top of a nice pick in the first.
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Not saying that I disagree with you, fully. I disagree with you about Crabtree being highly overrated. Put him on the Pats, the Colts or on the Cards and he is a stud. However, you are correct about Crabtree being a perplexing pick for a run first defensive minded coach. Knicks might have been a better pick. Its a reach sure, but he's got strong hands and he's physical. Shit, come to think of it, they could have traded down and then nabbed Robinski or Britt on top of a nice pick in the first.
I would have went with a LBer. They are safe picks in the draft
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Not saying that I disagree with you, fully. I disagree with you about Crabtree being highly overrated. Put him on the Pats, the Colts or on the Cards and he is a stud. However, you are correct about Crabtree being a perplexing pick for a run first defensive minded coach. Knicks might have been a better pick. Its a reach sure, but he's got strong hands and he's physical. Shit, come to think of it, they could have traded down and then nabbed Robinski or Britt on top of a nice pick in the first.
i liked robinske. I think he was the safest pick at wr.
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yes. bb. Big 12 defenses vs. acc defenses. Look up the statistics. Big 12 defenses are WEAK. I'm gonna end this filla buster right now. theres no point in debating logic with a casual college football fan. Heywar bey played in a pro style offense. When a team passes 60 times a game....ala texas tech, chances are you might have a better statistical year rather than playing in a pro style offense. Do you know what pro style offense consists of? run first, play action, hb screens, full house toss etc. Not lining up with 5 wr sets every down.
Logic? lol? You mean like your contention that Crabtree was too short? Or that 5'9" 185 Steve Smith is built like a brick house? Or that Hewyard-Bey had three solid seasons? Is that the logic you're talking about?
You need to actually watch the guys play. That might change your outlook. I'd also recommend looking up Troy Williamson. His story sounds awfully familar to Heyward-Bey.
I will say that it is entirely possible that Heyward-Bey could turn out to be a better pro than Crabtree, because the draft really is a crapshoot, but I'll be very surprised if that happens.
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Things are changing. Pats have been using the spread for years. Lots of empty back fields and pass first downs used as a running game. They switch it up and hammer you with the run at times, but other times they throw. Crabtree would be sick in the pats O.
You're seeing more and more "spread" style O's in the pros.
I agree. Pretty much every team in the league has some version of the spread offense.
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Logic? lol? You mean like your contention that Crabtree was too short? Or that 5'9" 185 Steve Smith is built like a brick house? Or that Hewyard-Bey had three solid seasons? Is that the logic you're talking about?
You need to actually watch the guys play. That might change your outlook. I'd also recommend looking up Troy Williamson. His story sounds awfully familar to Heyward-Bey.
I will say that it is entirely possible that Heyward-Bey could turn out to be a better pro than Crabtree, because the draft really is a crapshoot, but I'll be very surprised if that happens.
NO!!!!!!!
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but but but the niners...with their new coach singletary will be featuring a RUN first offense.
hes implementing a very pro style offense.
body..you know how weak those big 12 defenses were...and you know how much tt passed every game...at least 50+ times a game.
of course crabtree will have better stats then bay who plays in a very pro style type of scheme.
many good wr's in the nfl dont grab 5td' per year and they play 17 games. not 12.
BB thinks crabby is the second coming of jesus because of his production. OFCOURSE he put up numbers. so did grahm and he wasnt drafted. Same thing with colt brenan...a system guy.
Not true. I mentioned his production and his game film. I know the difference between a guy who does nothing but put up numbers and a guy who can play. That's the difference between our respective analysis. You're relying on the copout "system" argument without having watched the kid play. I've actually seen him. Even though pretty much all of the scouts and teams, etc. had Crabtree ranked as the best WR in the draft, I based my view on what I saw on the field, along with his production. Great football player.
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Chang and Gram and Sonny (remember him from TT) yeah those are system guys...but I think Colt is the real deal...he makes awesome throws in the redskins boring ass 2wr offense...i think he is better than Campbell right now
I agree. Colt is the real deal. He will start in the NFL.
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NO!!!!!!!
I'm just sayin . . . . I don't think it will happen, but you never know.
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Not true. I mentioned his production and his game film. I know the difference between a guy who does nothing but put up numbers and a guy who can play. That's the difference between our respective analysis. You're relying on the copout "system" argument without having watched the kid play. I've actually seen him. Even though pretty much all of the scouts and teams, etc. had Crabtree ranked as the best WR in the draft, I based my view on what I saw on the field, along with his production. Great football player.
Crabtree is not overrated, imo. he is a good football player. However, I'm not sure how he fits into the niners current O. I think Robinski would have been the better pick on top of trading down if they could. Clearly they went for best player available and you cant fault that at the top of the draft.
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They and NE always get lucky form idiot teams passing on talent. My Boyz were too economical......but we ARE ready for 2009!!!!
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Crabtree is not overrated, imo. he is a good football player. However, I'm not sure how he fits into the niners current O. I think Robinski would have been the better pick on top of trading down if they could.
He fits right into the WR1 slot, because that was one of the Niners biggest needs. He's going to be a great addition to that offense, with Gore, Vernon Davis, and Bruce back for one more season. I just hope they get consistent QB play.
I'd actually be more concerned if they drafted a WR like Heyward-Bey who can only sprint down the field in a straight line. Crabtree can do it all. I don't think it's any conincidence that pretty much everyone viewed him as the best WR in the draft. There are some who viewed him as the best player in the draft period.
I don't really see anyone drafted after no. 10 that was a better fit for the Niners.
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bb, trust me. He doesnt have the xplosiveness to play the 1 wr spot. The niners may keep him there for a year or even 3. Once he faces real bump coverage he will become nothing more than a slot wr.
HES A DAMN SLOT WR
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bb, trust me. He doesnt have the xplosiveness to play the 1 wr spot. The niners may keep him there for a year or even 3. Once he faces real bump coverage he will become nothing more than a slot wr.
HES A DAMN SLOT WR
WOAH...DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT
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bb, trust me. He doesnt have the xplosiveness to play the 1 wr spot. The niners may keep him there for a year or even 3. Once he faces real bump coverage he will become nothing more than a slot wr.
HES A DAMN SLOT WR
I doubt that. And not every defense in the league plays bump and run. He's certainly big and strong enough to get off the line.
But we'll see.
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bb, trust me. He doesnt have the xplosiveness to play the 1 wr spot. The niners may keep him there for a year or even 3. Once he faces real bump coverage he will become nothing more than a slot wr.
HES A DAMN SLOT WR
They said the same thing about Desean Jackson.
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They said the same thing about Desean Jackson.
who said that? desean had the speed to dictate double teams, you dont find many slot receivers commanding double teams.
he can play any wr slot.
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Ravens had a decent draft. But it's still puzzling to me why they didn't go after a Wide Receiver. They didn't even draft one??? Very strange considering that it's a weakness on their team. They have to be planning something big via a trade. They made the AFC championship with Mason and Clayton as their starters. But to take it past that level, they need a big play receiver to complement Flacco's deep ball.
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figurs is the future in bmore
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They and NE always get lucky form idiot teams passing on talent. My Boyz were too economical......but we ARE ready for 2009!!!!
Luck? They know how to draft. You don't go into a draft with 6 day one picks after drafting the DFOTY in 2008, and come out with 12 players and two extra second rounders because you're lucky...
First round picks over the last 9 years
Seymour - Stud
Dan Graham - Very Good
Ty Warren - Stud
Vince Wilford - Stud
Ben Watson - Good
Login Mankins - Stud
Maroney - Good, but injury prone
Meriweather - Very Good
Meyo - Stud
Pitt. NE, Colts, Ravens, Dolphins (now), Carolina, Chargers, Bills, Eagles all know how to draft.
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who said that? desean had the speed to dictate double teams, you dont find many slot receivers commanding double teams.
he can play any wr slot.
They said once Desean faces real bump and run coverage... which is almost a lost art in the NFL anymore. Crabtree will be fine.