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Title: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 09, 2009, 04:39:23 AM

The most underrated (Roland Cziurlok):

1994 IFBB Grand Prix Italy 5th
1994 IFBB Olympia 18th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 5th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix France 5th
1995 IFBB Night Of The Champions 5th
1996 IFBB San Jose Pro 4th
1996 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 7th
1996 IFBB Olympia 12th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Spain 11th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 9th
1998 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 10th
2000 IFBB Night Of The Champions 16th
2001 IFBB Toronto Pro 17th
2001 IFBB Night Of The Champions 18th
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 09, 2009, 04:40:43 AM
The most overrated (Gunter Schlierkamp):

2002 Mr. Olympia 5th
2002 GNC Show of Strength 1st
2003 Mr. Olympia 5th
2003 English Grand Prix 3rd
2003 Holland Grand Prix 4th
2003 GNC Show of Strength 5th
2004 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 4th
2004 Mr. Olympia 6th
2005 Mr. Olympia 4th
2006 Mr. Olympia 10th


Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: spinnis on April 09, 2009, 04:47:08 AM
Thats not Lee Priest
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Saxon on April 09, 2009, 04:50:09 AM
Roland was awesome  8)
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: clued-up on April 09, 2009, 04:51:27 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=274420.0;attach=313827;image)

good build
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: _bruce_ on April 09, 2009, 04:52:14 AM
Tschurlok was great - his most muscular was ace
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Saxon on April 09, 2009, 04:54:33 AM
Gunter's waist is just too wide, no matter how wide his shoulders or back are.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: wavelength on April 09, 2009, 04:55:55 AM
Cziurlok's waist is also wide
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Saxon on April 09, 2009, 04:59:54 AM
Cziurlok's waist is also wide

It is not Gunteresque, though.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: clued-up on April 09, 2009, 05:03:55 AM
Cziurlok's waist is also wide

its not bad for a white guy with his level of development. 

(http://foty.ifd.pl/sb.asp?w=520&p=1/images2008/20080923133307.JPG)

(http://foty.ifd.pl/sb.asp?w=520&p=1/images2008/20080923133545.jpg)

(http://foty.ifd.pl/sb.asp?w=520&p=1/images2008/20080923133529.jpg)
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 09, 2009, 05:12:33 AM
Gunter's waist is just too wide, no matter how wide his shoulders or back are.

his waist was wide, his shoulders and arms were small for his owerall size, his quads were big but looked strange, he had no calves.. just to mention few of his weak points  8)
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 09, 2009, 05:13:06 AM
Cziurlok's waist is also wide

use a better glasses!!
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: affeman on April 09, 2009, 06:19:38 AM
Gunther was a joke. There were douzens of guys a gazillion times better than him who've hardly ever made the Top6 at a pro show (like Mustafa Mohammad for example).

His desire for Weider semen made him a Top-Olympian neverthless. :-X
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on April 09, 2009, 06:21:15 AM
actually Gunter at the GNC 2002 looked incredible.....Huge and dry
He looked good at the 2005 Olympia here too. Sure he was blocky but his strengths compensated; mainly being size.

Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 09, 2009, 06:21:40 AM
roland looks btter
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Meso_z on April 09, 2009, 06:23:19 AM
Some of those "comparisons" he makes are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: affeman on April 09, 2009, 06:23:43 AM
This was basically his only good showing, Olympia 02:

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Post by: webcake on April 09, 2009, 06:24:14 AM
White man with muscles...........no doubt about it.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: BayGBM on April 09, 2009, 12:24:43 PM
The most underrated (Roland Cziurlok):

1994 IFBB Grand Prix Italy 5th
1994 IFBB Olympia 18th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 5th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix France 5th
1995 IFBB Night Of The Champions 5th
1996 IFBB San Jose Pro 4th
1996 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 7th
1996 IFBB Olympia 12th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Spain 11th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 9th
1998 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 10th
2000 IFBB Night Of The Champions 16th
2001 IFBB Toronto Pro 17th
2001 IFBB Night Of The Champions 18th

>he Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)

You said it!
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: ironneck on April 09, 2009, 12:50:43 PM
it doesn't count cause schlierkamp's pics have a higher resolution
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 09, 2009, 12:52:19 PM
Cziurlok was the so called European insulin king,  he was one of the first to really play around with combinations of slin and gh and the insane amounts of muscle they would yield together, he would literally blow up like 30-40 lbs. before shows (like Levrone).
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: BayGBM on April 09, 2009, 12:55:03 PM
Cziurlok was the so called European insulin king,  he was one of the first to really play around with combinations of slin and gh and the insane amounts of muscle they would yield together, he would literally blow up like 30-40 lbs. before shows (like Levrone).


Was he another 5'6"-er?
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Blockhead on April 09, 2009, 01:46:28 PM


                                                                 gh15
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 09, 2009, 01:48:55 PM

                                                                 gh15

I'v been thinking that for years. lol
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: hench on April 09, 2009, 02:01:18 PM
whay happened to Roland and his competition days?
Awesome physique!
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Danimal77 on April 09, 2009, 11:06:07 PM
The most underrated (Roland Cziurlok):

1994 IFBB Grand Prix Italy 5th
1994 IFBB Olympia 18th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 5th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix France 5th
1995 IFBB Night Of The Champions 5th
1996 IFBB San Jose Pro 4th
1996 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 7th
1996 IFBB Olympia 12th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Spain 11th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 9th
1998 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 10th
2000 IFBB Night Of The Champions 16th
2001 IFBB Toronto Pro 17th
2001 IFBB Night Of The Champions 18th

I remember him at the 1994 Mr. Olympia was it where he came out to AC/DC's Thunderstruck and jumped in the air and landed in the SPLITS position. He had great potential.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Big_Gunzzzz on April 10, 2009, 12:25:01 AM
I remember him at the 1994 Mr. Olympia was it where he came out to AC/DC's Thunderstruck and jumped in the air and landed in the SPLITS position. He had great potential.

Gunter was at that Olympia too at 24 years of age.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Topskin69 on April 10, 2009, 12:37:58 AM

gh15 was indeed underrated.... HAIL NIBIROU!!

Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: affeman on April 10, 2009, 12:43:01 AM
whay happened to Roland and his competition days?
Awesome physique!

I heared he's a bum these days, no joke. Went to jail and now livin' under the bridge gettin' his meals at the social service. Life can be nasty.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Big_Gunzzzz on April 10, 2009, 01:42:10 AM
gh15 was indeed underrated.... HAIL NIBIROU!!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=274420.0;attach=314054;image)

That's not Gunter.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: clued-up on April 10, 2009, 01:44:25 AM
I think these guys might have taken steroids.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: Big_Gunzzzz on April 10, 2009, 01:57:36 AM
I think these guys might have taken steroids.

Why the need to hate?  Hard work and training is 99.999999% of it.  $100,000 a year in drugs is more of a finishing touch really.
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: dave19 on April 10, 2009, 02:50:00 AM
Why the need to hate?  Hard work and training is 99.999999% of it.  $100,000 a year in drugs is more of a finishing touch really.

I'm suprised at how many people on here actually think gear is that expensive.

Not even the most abusing pro would spend more than let's say a couple of thousand dollars on aas/slin a year.

The basic and most used stuff is actually very cheap - test , dbol , deca etc. are just peanuts. slin might be 200 bucks a year if they are using it much.

The only expensive thing is the gh - might account for another 15.000 dollars a year if used much and throughout the whole year.

So basically no pro will spend more than 20.000 dollars a year on gear - and that is if you're really abusing it to a point where it won't yield any more results.

Without the gh it might be 3000 dollars a year..
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: wavelength on April 10, 2009, 03:11:43 AM
use a better glasses!!

you can't tell by the posted pictures
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: webcake on April 10, 2009, 03:23:55 AM
More proud Aryan brothers and men of iron.......... 8)
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: wavelength on April 10, 2009, 04:16:00 AM
More proud Aryan brothers and men of iron.......... 8)

;D
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: clued-up on April 10, 2009, 04:27:38 AM
So basically no pro will spend more than 20.000 dollars a year on gear - and that is if you're really abusing it to a point where it won't yield any more results.

I think thats a high estimate.. how much gh do you need? I'd say 7-10k is all they spend... g4p.

I bet some guys dont even buy HGH... at all.

and steroids are cheap.

Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: dave19 on April 10, 2009, 04:35:46 AM
I think thats a high estimate.. how much gh do you need? I'd say 7-10k is all they spend... g4p.

I bet some guys dont even buy HGH... at all.

and steroids are cheap.



yep that is basically what i'm trying to say. my 20k estimate was an absolute maximum.

some people on here think they spend like 100k a year for gear...
Title: Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
Post by: clued-up on April 10, 2009, 04:38:52 AM
yep that is basically what i'm trying to say. my 20k estimate was an absolute maximum.

some people on here think they spend like 100k a year for gear...

I could run 20iu gh a day.. for a year straight.. for 8-10 grand. and I'm not hooked up.

a guy thats hooked up.. wont pay a dime for gh.. do you know what I mean?