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Title: smokers
Post by: InsightD on May 26, 2006, 12:40:19 PM
how harmful is smoking to the aspiring bb'er... or just anyone getting into shape?  i've noticed smokers at the gym and i'm just curious.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: alexxx on May 26, 2006, 12:51:08 PM
how harmful is smoking to the aspiring bb'er... or just anyone getting into shape?  i've noticed smokers at the gym and i'm just curious.

Just look at them and you should get all your answers.. they are usually skinny little men with bitch tits which is a common side effect of smoking.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Arnold jr on May 26, 2006, 02:50:29 PM
Just look at them and you should get all your answers.. they are usually skinny little men with bitch tits which is a common side effect of smoking.

What about Marcus Ruhl? He is a big smoker and I wouldn't call him small by any means.

Also, interesting you brought up the bitch tits, Anthony Roberts has now come out with some claim that nicotine can actually have a positive affect on gyno conditions. he states in a recent interview that while on cycle he was out of nolva so he bought some nicorette and the gyno cleared up. Is this for real? I have my doubts, but either way smoking is not a good idea.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Slick Vic on May 26, 2006, 03:19:54 PM
how harmful is smoking to the aspiring bb'er... or just anyone getting into shape?  i've noticed smokers at the gym and i'm just curious.
Funny you've said this. Just the other day I seen this lady in her gym outfit who obviously looked as if she just worked out. And was standing near the front door smoking. I don't get that.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Arnold Palmer on May 26, 2006, 04:47:44 PM
nicorette...hmm, i just got an idea.  Would that make a good workout stimulant for when im taking a break from ECA?
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: benchthis on May 26, 2006, 06:31:31 PM
i smoke about a pack every two days doesnt effect me when i lift only when i do cardio
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Princess L on May 26, 2006, 07:16:07 PM
nicorette...hmm, i just got an idea.  Would that make a good workout stimulant for when im taking a break from ECA?

Yes.
That is a frequent topic of discussion over on Lyle's site.
Do a nicotine search at bodyrecomposition.com to learn how to use it properly.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Butterbean on May 26, 2006, 07:32:30 PM
Why did I happen on this on the very rare moment when I am smoking a cigar?
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Laura Lee on May 26, 2006, 08:02:16 PM
Why did I happen on this on the very rare moment when I am smoking a cigar?
:o
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: InsightD on May 26, 2006, 08:28:15 PM
i used to be a heavy smoker... now i'm  a "social" smoker (smoke when i'm drunk) and i've not noticed any difference with, without, heavy or light smoking.  does anyone know the affect nicotine has on cortisol?
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: MidniteRambo on May 30, 2006, 10:27:51 AM
Mike Mentzer was supposedly a big smoker.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: blondmusclhunk on June 05, 2006, 10:32:54 AM
Depends how much you smoke prob.  I have friends that smoke on say friday or sat only and doesnt effect them at all.  But if your talking a pack a day or more im sure thats got to have some negative effects.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: WOOO on June 05, 2006, 10:36:21 AM
smoking is for morons
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: gtbro1 on June 05, 2006, 10:40:19 AM
smoking is for morons

this one single post answers all questions regarding smoking. ...good post.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Dos Equis on June 05, 2006, 11:10:57 AM
I know some very smart people who smoke.  It's an enigma.  Can't figure it out.

Some of the fastest guys on all of the football teams I played on were smokers.  Hated those guys. 
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: gtbro1 on June 05, 2006, 11:35:43 AM
There's a heart attach waiting to happen...a fat guy who smokes. It is funny to me how with as much as we know about how bad smoking is...people still start that habit.It is one thing to be hooked when ya didn't know how bad it was for you until it was too late,and another to start after the info is there.To each his own I guess.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: sarcasm on June 05, 2006, 01:54:04 PM
Just look at them and you should get all your answers.. they are usually skinny little men with bitch tits which is a common side effect of smoking.
hahahahahaa.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: WOOO on June 05, 2006, 02:59:34 PM
this one single post answers all questions regarding smoking. ...good post.

thank you thank you... i mean c'mon man... if you smoke a joint once in awhile... or a cigar in Cuba... but puffing away on cancer sticks day in and day out???  what are you, fuckin retarded?  :-X
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: younggunz on June 05, 2006, 04:42:16 PM
i smoke weed!! doesn't affect me
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Ledd on June 05, 2006, 07:13:08 PM
"I smoke rocks"--Dave Chapelle, funny shit. 
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: spotter on June 05, 2006, 07:39:36 PM
how harmful is smoking to the aspiring bb'er... or just anyone getting into shape?  i've noticed smokers at the gym and i'm just curious.

It Fucking Kills you!!! :-X
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: gtbro1 on June 09, 2006, 12:00:49 AM
i smoke weed!! doesn't affect me

yes it does...you just do not realize it yet.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: bmacsys on June 10, 2006, 04:24:28 PM
i smoke about a pack every two days doesnt effect me when i lift only when i do cardio

Eventually it will do you in sorry to say.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: bmacsys on June 10, 2006, 04:25:44 PM
Mike Mentzer was supposedly a big smoker.

Not when he was competing. He started after he wigged out.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: bmacsys on June 10, 2006, 04:27:08 PM
Anybody who smokes and says it doesn't effect them is in a state of denial about it.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: WOOO on June 10, 2006, 05:29:15 PM
although i swear that the new craziest supplement is nicotine... MD has run numerous articles that must be sponsored by the makers of nicorette .... i mean nicotine is more addictive than cocaine...
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: blondmusclhunk on June 12, 2006, 08:39:13 AM
It depends what you mean by smoke.   I have a friend with a simialr physique as mine great size and definition.  Smokes only  a few on Fri or Sat hes fine and I believe he is. Now if your talking about a daily smoker then yes its going to catch up with them one day somehow
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: chrisg on June 12, 2006, 05:21:34 PM
i used to be a heavy smoker... now i'm  a "social" smoker (smoke when i'm drunk) and i've not noticed any difference with, without, heavy or light smoking.  does anyone know the affect nicotine has on cortisol?

I don't know know about nicotines effect on cortisol, but I just read an article last week on a study that found that heavy drinkers are often heavy smokers if they smoke at all, something like 90%. But, smokers aren't necessarily heavy drinkers obviously. It had something to w/ the fact that nicotine and alcohol both affect levels of serotonin in the brain and that is why they are synergistic. I wish I had the link for you, even though it wouldn't answer your question about cortisol. I used to be a heavy drinker and a heavy smoker. Now, I don't drink much and I don't smoke much. But when I don't drink, I am usually smoking, just not heavily. And when I do drink, I smoke heavily. If you're trying to quit though, take 500-1000 mg of Vitamin C tablets a couple times per day. It gets the nicotine out of your system faster than just trying to quit cold turkey, which is the only way I've been able to cut off completely smoking for the longest period of time. Good luck.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: loco on June 13, 2006, 06:07:07 AM
how harmful is smoking to the aspiring bb'er... or just anyone getting into shape?  i've noticed smokers at the gym and i'm just curious.

InsightD,
Yes, it is harmful to the aspiring bb'er, and to everybody else too.

nicorette...hmm, i just got an idea.  Would that make a good workout stimulant for when im taking a break from ECA?

Arnold,
I don't know if you are kidding or not, but here is what I have been told by athletes who smoke or used to smoke.  Nicotine does seem to lean people out and keep them lean, but it is highly addictive.  And when these people successfully quit, they get fat.  Some people have to replace this bad habit with extra exercise and a lower calorie diet to compensate for the absence of nicotine and thus keep from getting fat.  I don't know if any of this is scientific and I have never smoked.  This is simply what I have heard from these people.
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Oldschool Flip on June 13, 2006, 07:33:40 AM
Why did I happen on this on the very rare moment when I am smoking a cigar?
What kind of cigar? ;D
Title: Re: smokers
Post by: Oldschool Flip on June 13, 2006, 07:49:46 AM
If I had to do it all over again, I wished I never got into the habit. I was 19 and the girl I was dating and most of the dudes I hung around smoked. At the time my father was also a smoker. I smoked and kept going to the gym and partying. After getting married my wife politely asked to quit because she didn't want our child around it. I promised her once we found out she was pregnant I would quit. Two days after I found out we were going to have a child, I quit cold turkey. It's been almost 3 years now and I haven't looked back. My cardio has gotten much, much better and I can taste food better.
I think the addiction to nicotine and the relaxing feeling you get during and after smoking is so great, most people feel that if they quit that they'll never have that kind of satisfaction. Again I quit cold turkey and had a few cravings and even dreamed I was smoking, but after 2 weeks it wasn't that hard.
I believe that in order to quit, if you want to in the first place, you have to set a goal date to actually stop. Once that date comes, go cold turkey. The weening off nicotine just makes it that much easier to go back IMO. And don't associate, except for eating, with the triggers that habitually got you to light up. For me it was drinking at the bar and eating lunch at the bar when I was working. After I left the bar it was much easier to stay on track.
If you smoke I encourage you to quit, because except for a little metabolic burst, there is NOTHING beneficial. If nicotine is the problem, then see a specialist or chew gum.