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Title: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2011, 08:49:27 AM
JACKPOT......Both Albert Poooholes AND CJ Wilson heading to the Angels. This is HUGE this makes day, week and baseball season!!!
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 08, 2011, 08:51:40 AM
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Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2011, 08:52:25 AM
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Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 08:54:08 AM
sounds like the Angels mortgaged the farm for an old steadily declining heavy legged ballplayer, 260 million bucks is crazy when the rumors here in STL is that hes really 3-4 years older than his stated age, he has maybe 4 decent years left.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 08, 2011, 08:56:17 AM
sounds like the Angels mortgaged the farm for an old steadily declining heavy legged ballplayer, 260 million bucks is crazy when the rumors here in STL is that hes really 3-4 years older than his stated age, he has maybe 4 decent years left.

Look what the A-Rod deal did to the Rangers.  :-\ :-\ But i keep hearing that the Angels are not the Rangers.  :-\
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 08:58:54 AM
Look what the A-Rod deal did to the Rangers.  :-\ :-\ But i keep hearing that the Angels are not the Rangers.  :-\
being here in STL i've seen what has happened over the last few years with this guy and hes not all he cracked up to be, with the exception of the one big game he was non existant in the World Series this year and his numbers have been going down over the last 3 seasons, he didnt even have 100 rbi's this last season, is that a 30 mil a year player? ???
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Mothballs on December 08, 2011, 09:26:29 AM
JACKPOT......Both Albert Poooholes AND CJ Wilson heading to the Angels. This is HUGE this makes day, week and baseball season!!!

Congrats on the Puljols signing.

But they'll be regretting that CJ Wilson signing for years to come. He's a #3 starter at best and your paying him $20million a year. Worst pitcher contract since the giants signed barry zito.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2011, 09:29:21 AM
C'mon Dave, he just turned 32. And I'm serious when I say this....everybody started declining when they REALLY started clamping down on testing.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Dr.Ill on December 08, 2011, 09:32:01 AM
I agree with Quaker, been around the guy, ego and game over rated!  David Frease came through with clutch hits, not Albert.  St. Louis will reload like usual and the Angels will be wondering where that star slugger is compared to his contract!  Guaranteed!
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 09:32:17 AM
C'mon Dave, he just turned 32. And I'm serious when I say this....everybody started declining when they REALLY started clamping down on testing.
those are the very well founded rumors Joe, its almost like a secret that everybody here knows and just accepts, where the Angels really messsed up is in giving him a no trade clause, im not saying hes not a great player, he is but we've alrwady seen his best and its downhill from here.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 09:33:54 AM
I agree with Quaker, been around the guy, ego and game over rated!  David Frease came through with clutch hits, not Albert.  St. Louis will reload like usual and the Angels will be wondering where that star slugger is compared to his contract!  Guaranteed!
dont get me wrong, hes been a great player and will probably be a first ballot HOF player but hes not worth 10 years and 260 million, not anymore.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2011, 09:35:35 AM
CJ will do just fine. He's home, he's a local boy raised right here in the OC (Newport Beach) and is local here in HB. He's comfortable here.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Dr.Ill on December 08, 2011, 09:36:12 AM
dont get me wrong, hes been a great player and will probably be a first ballot HOF player but hes not worth 10 years and 260 million, not anymore.

I understand, not talking about his past career now, the Albert they just paid 250 million for is not the same Albert.  In two years they will be signing checks for a player that his stats will not be much better than the other players on the team.

Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 09:37:00 AM
CJ will do just fine. He's home, he's a local boy raised right here in the OC (Newport Beach) and is local here in HB. He's comfortable here.
CJ was a fantastic pickup, those are the type of picks teams should be making, young talent, 58 mil over 4 years isnt bad for a starter of his talent.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 09:38:11 AM
I understand, not talking about his past career now, the Albert they just paid 250 million for is not the same Albert.  In two years they will be signing checks for a player that his stats will not be much better than the other players on the team.


exactly, i keep telling people here that are upset about it that at this point hes not much different than Matt Holliday, if you look at the stats theyre almost the same player.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Dr.Ill on December 08, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
exactly, i keep telling people here that are upset about it that at this point hes not much different than Matt Holliday, if you look at the stats theyre almost the same player.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
Especially since our mid-relievers and closers weren't that great. We used to have great depth but not in the last couple of years. We really needed Wilson.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Dr.Ill on December 08, 2011, 09:44:43 AM
Especially since our mid-relievers and closers weren't that great. We used to have great depth but not in the last couple of years. We really needed Wilson.

I didn't mean any disrepect toward you Coach ... I saw how this guy treated some young ball players one time and I have a chip on my shoulder with him, thats all.  I am sure he will help the team.  And I mean Albert, not Wilson.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
I didn't mean any disrepect toward you Coach ... I saw how this guy treated some young ball players one time and I have a chip on my shoulder with him, thats all.  I am sure he will help the team.  And I mean Albert, not Wilson.
hes become EXTREMELY arrogant, rude and abrasive the last few years, if you live here you see it all the time in interviews.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Mothballs on December 08, 2011, 09:52:28 AM
exactly, i keep telling people here that are upset about it that at this point hes not much different than Matt Holliday, if you look at the stats theyre almost the same player.

Puljols had 15 more home runs, hit 20 more rbi's and struck out almost half as much in the worst statistical year of his career.

They're not even close to the same player.

Puljols has been the best player in baseball for the past 7-8 years. The same cant be said for Holiday.

If your an Angels fan your much more worried about the Wilson signing. Just look at his numbers in the playoffs this year. He's not much more then a #3 starter on a decent team.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Dr.Ill on December 08, 2011, 09:54:17 AM
hes become EXTREMELY arrogant, rude and abrasive the last few years, if you live here you see it all the time in interviews.

Exactly, and I understand a guy with his popularity in this town wanting some time for himself with adults, but these were 10 year old kids taking pics of him with their cell phones and he just lost it....I wanted to slap that little goatie off his smug ass face!
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 09:55:43 AM
Puljols had 15 more home runs, hit 20 more rbi's and struck out almost half as much in the worst statistical year of his career.

They're not even close to the same player.

Puljols has been the best player in baseball for the past 7-8 years. The same cant be said for Holiday.

If your an Angels fan your much more worried about the Wilson signing. Just look at his numbers in the playoffs this year. He's not much more then a #3 starter on a decent team.
theyre closer than you think, i watch every game this team plays, again I AGREE that he is an AMAZING player and if not the best one of the top 5 players in baseball but giving a 33-34 year old guy a no trade 10 year 260 million dollar deal is crazy.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Dr.Ill on December 08, 2011, 09:56:11 AM
Puljols had 15 more home runs, hit 20 more rbi's and struck out almost half as much in the worst statistical year of his career.

They're not even close to the same player.

Puljols has been the best player in baseball for the past 7-8 years. The same cant be said for Holiday.

If your an Angels fan your much more worried about the Wilson signing. Just look at his numbers in the playoffs this year. He's not much more then a #3 starter on a decent team.

Not going to argue his stats over last 7 years, but we will see in two years if he is best in league, let alone, 10 years!   :o
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Wiggs on December 08, 2011, 10:00:18 AM
of the top 5 players in baseball but giving a 33-34 year old guy a no trade 10 year 260 million dollar deal is crazy.

He's only 31 but still, yes no way you give a guy a 10 year deal at that age...Look at A-Rod now...But he wanted a long term deal and you gotta give the best player in baseball what he wants to keep him.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Mothballs on December 08, 2011, 10:01:23 AM
theyre closer than you think, i watch every game this team plays, again I AGREE that he is an AMAZING player and if not the best one of the top 5 players in baseball but giving a 33-34 year old guy a no trade 10 year 260 million dollar deal is crazy.

Very true and I agree. But I do believe they have an out after 7 years. So its really a 7 year deal. Puljols is 31 so the contract will take him up to 38. Which in sports today isnt that old.

While its risky you cant always get an Albert Puljols level player. The Angels have a shitload of money to spend so why not take a chance to make your team better and spend it.

Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
He's only 31 but still, yes no way you give a guy a 10 year deal at that age...Look at A-Rod now...But he wanted a long term deal and you gotta give the best player in baseball what he wants to keep him.
no one knows his real age, even the Cardinals have said hes never produced a birth certificate since he was born in the DR.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Mothballs on December 08, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
He's only 31 but still, yes no way you give a guy a 10 year deal at that age...Look at A-Rod now...But he wanted a long term deal and you gotta give the best player in baseball what he wants to keep him.

That extension Arod signed was the worst deal in baseball history.

The Yankees will be kicking themselves in the foot for the next 5 or 6 or however many years left of that deal.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: seCrawler on December 08, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
Puljols had 15 more home runs, hit 20 more rbi's and struck out almost half as much in the worst statistical year of his career.

They're not even close to the same player.

Puljols has been the best player in baseball for the past 7-8 years. The same cant be said for Holiday.

If your an Angels fan your much more worried about the Wilson signing. Just look at his numbers in the playoffs this year. He's not much more then a #3 starter on a decent team.

I'm glad, because until this deal, I had no clue who he was.  I would have traded him before I put out that much money.  Traditionally, Pitt and Florida have won WSs with cheap rosters.  That just says you don't need to break the bank in baseball to win, just need 9 balanced starters.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Wiggs on December 08, 2011, 10:06:23 AM
no one knows his real age, even the Cardinals have said hes never produced a birth certificate since he was born in the DR.

lol what?...One of those guys huh.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 10:07:22 AM
lol what?...One of those guys huh.
yep, im not saying hes 36 or 37 but probably 33.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: funk51 on December 08, 2011, 10:09:51 AM
JACKPOT......Both Albert Poooholes AND CJ Wilson heading to the Angels. This is HUGE this makes day, week and baseball season!!!
good pick up
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 10:12:13 AM
i wish the best for him, we here in town had some great memories with him, if all goes right he should be a 600 home run and possibly 2000 rbi guy which puts him in a class with only Ruth and Aaron if he hits both of those numbers.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 08, 2011, 11:27:02 AM
That extension Arod signed was the worst deal in baseball history.

The Yankees will be kicking themselves in the foot for the next 5 or 6 or however many years left of that deal.

How? Rangers were/are kicking themselves for that deal. The Yankees are the Yankees for a reason.  ;)
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Mothballs on December 08, 2011, 11:44:01 AM
How? Rangers were/are kicking themselves for that deal. The Yankees are the Yankees for a reason.  ;)

In 2007 he signed a 10 year 275 million dollar contract. That means he's with the Yankees til he's 42.

Since 2007 he's. He hasnt played in more then 138 games in any season and he's played a 96 games this year. His OBPS, home run, rbi totals, and batting average has gone down every year as well.

Now just think about him continuing this trend for another 5 years. Hes making 32 million dollars this year.

Like I said the Yanks will be kicking themselves for years for a 3b with a bum hip who's lost his power.
Title: Re: Angels World Series Bound!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 08, 2011, 12:08:15 PM
In 2007 he signed a 10 year 275 million dollar contract. That means he's with the Yankees til he's 42.

Since 2007 he's. He hasnt played in more then 138 games in any season and he's played a 96 games this year. His OBPS, home run, rbi totals, and batting average has gone down every year as well.

Now just think about him continuing this trend for another 5 years. Hes making 32 million dollars this year.

Like I said the Yanks will be kicking themselves for years for a 3b with a bum hip who's lost his power.

I understand that, but the Yankees have the money. Year in and year out the Yankees can spend, spend and spend.....I mean, they even gave C.C. more money when he opted out of his $150 million dollar contract. The Yanks and Boston can spend no matter what. I always thought that the A-Rod deal hurt Texas more so than the Yankees.