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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: unrageable on October 14, 2011, 09:37:37 PM
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Not sure who started this whole controversy thing back in the day. But the only people who keep it going are sheep who have never seen the pictures/videos or retarded Mike Menzter fans.
Arnold only prepared 8 weeks until the 1980 Mr Olympia. I am sure that's why most were pissed. Because it took them all year to get prepared and they still got shit on by the Oak.
Arnold in in 1980 was not a prime Arnold. Prime Arnold was 73/74. Arnold in 1980 was maybe 70-80% Arnold. His conditioning upper body was pretty good, legs not so much. He didn't have as much mass. Still had great lines and had enough mass to take on anyone at this Olympia though.
So let me clear it up once and for all.
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LOL at the Menzter fans.
MENZTER WAS NARROW. No chest, shitty back, and a gut. Only thing he had were decent arms but Arnold's were still the BEST.
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/011.jpg)
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HAHA Mike is so SHIT. Nice FAT ASS on him too. SHIT back.
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(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/MM20pr-1.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/057.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/mi4.jpg)
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Arnold looks great. Who needs legs and back anyway....
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Arnold is the greatest of all time. He looked fantastic at every showing he ever did. 1980 was not prime was fantastic physique none the less.
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lol at people defending Frank Zane. Frank had some good olympias but this year was utter shit. anyone who defends this physique is a fucktard.
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And this piece of shit had the nerve to physically threat the great Arnold. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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going to bed I'll post more pics tomorrow.
anyone who argues against Arnold winning is a fucking twit.
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Almost makes Phil Heath look wide :-\
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To win a Sandow, you should be wider than Sandow. :D
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unrageable is rageable.
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Arnold owning everyone with less size but great conditioning
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To win a Sandow, you should be wider than Sandow. :D
lmfao best line yet ;D
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Almost makes Phil Heath look wide :-\
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"almost"?
The leafy bug looks better than Mentzer.
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Arnold was not at his best but he was the best on that stage. end of /
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To win a Sandow, you should be wider than Sandow. :D
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or at least the statuette
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its funny for years i heard about this olympia, how mentzer was robbed arnold looked like shit and shouldnt have won, etc etc. then i finally saw the pictures and really didnt see it. arnold legs were not great but were not so far behind anyone else, better than some even. arms and chest best at show. back again not great but holding its own against others. he dwarfed everyone at the show, as well, and conditioning was fairly even across the board (no one looked 'great'). he deserved it as much as anyone else in the show.
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Can someone post Arnold`s Absolute best.
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Can someone post Arnold`s Absolute best.
Many consider 1974 his best
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Iv`e seen some pictures of Arnold looking much better in the gym, much leaner and much bigger. There is one where is abs are actually ripped and I think Joe Weider is standing with him. His midsection is his weakest point in my opinion, but in those non-competition shots his conditioning was actually very good.
Have any of those ND?
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Iv`e seen some pictures of Arnold looking much better in the gym, much leaner and much bigger. There is one where is abs are actually ripped and I think Joe Weider is standing with him. His midsection is his weakest point in my opinion, but in those non-competition shots his conditioning was actually very good.
Have any of those ND?
He mentioned during his comeback from the Olympia in 1980 that the judges put a lot more emphasis on abdominals than they did when he was competing so his midsection was more defined , but this pic is from 1975 and his midsecton looks pretty damn good , abs/intercostals/serratus and obliques all tight and defined
The pic you mentioned I can't find
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from 1980
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This was on T-Nation :-X :-\
T: Hi Mike. What's going on in your life? Why don't you tell us what kind of things you've been doing, and how your career is going?
MM: There is only one valid theory of exercise science and most of what has been said has been said by people with no background in philosophy, logic, or science. For that matter, most of what has been said has been said by people who had no background in gardening or gynecology, either, which harkens me back to the 1980 Olympia Contest where history's ultimate non-Ayn Rand person, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, accepted the Olympia crown when every man, woman, and child in existence (I should know, I polled each of them independently, except for a contentious individual in Fresno who refuses to accept my calls) believes I should have been the winner. We may be able to send a man to the moon, but when it comes to recognizing the rightful winner of the 1980 Olympiad, mankind is surely arrested in its development.
T: Uhh, okay?great. Listen, a lot of people are still interested in heavy-duty training and this concept of "one set to failure." For those readers who weren't around in the seventies, could you please clarify this interesting and provocative training theory?
MM: Back in 1980, just before the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest, I was in phenomenal shape; I was the romantic and spiritual ideal of any self-actualized human being. Do you, perchance, remember that sonnet written by Karen Carpenter?who, incidentally, was a classic overtrainer?where she sang, "On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided to create a dream come true, so they sprinkled moon dust in your hair, and la-de-da-de-da-da-da-da-da?" Well, I was that individual on whom the angels sprinkled their precious extra-terrestrial dust! I had trained with the ultra high intensity of a mad bull who had just heard his mentor, Ayn Rand, verbally attacked by the other bulls in the pen and various other farm animals in general. I had, in short, trained to failure!
T: Mike, you seem to be rather obsessed with this 1980 Olympia?
MM: One set! One set no matter what! I once had relations with a woman. One pelvic thrust! That's all. She refused to have an orgasm, but that was because of her own physical and intellectual limitations. I once was fed a turkey leg at Thanksgiving. I inserted the whole leg?which clearly came from a fowl who was a chronic overtrainer?into my mouth, chewed once, and swallowed. Now, this was before I had mastered the "one set to failure" concept, and the leg lodged in my throat and was expelled forcefully only after my brother Ray exerted a forceful Heimlich maneuver. No matter that the hurling fowl leg shattered most of dinner host Joe Weider's collection of fine china, the experience only reinforced my own ideas about the validity of heavy duty training.
T: Why don't we talk some other time, okay? I really have to go service the laser printer?
MM: Look, I'll prove it to you: Einstein proved the theory of relativity, correct? Well, then, ipso facto, if my sister has a house in Albany with a couple of infants?who happen to habitually overtrain, mind you?and she refuses to lend her brother any money even though he promised to pay her back once the world recognizes him as being its true intellectual leader, and this brother was robbed of the 1980 Olympia Contest, it becomes crystal clear, right? Now, given that the vast majority of bodybuilders are intellectually self-arrested, you couldn't possibly understand that, so don't bother getting contentious with me. Now, we can build a toaster that toasts bread until it's the color of Halle Barry's firm curvilinear backside, so why can't we understand that there's only one valid theory of training?
T: Mike, gotta' go. Really. I'm needed back on the planet Earth.
MM: Yes, it's true that I admire Ayn Rand, but I am slightly discouraged that she doesn't answer my mail or return my calls. Yes, she's been dead about sixteen years, but that seems to me to be a poor excuse for ignoring someone who is her intellectual equivalent. My biceps are considerably larger too, but I suspect that she, despite her inestimable intelligence, was a chronic overtrainer. Yes, yes, we may be able to build one of those funny little devices that gives a man a shock when you shake his hand, but it's apparent that mankind isn't ready to accept heavy duty training yet. Back in Sydney, in 1980, they also weren't ready to accept that man is a heroic being whose highest moral purpose is the achievement of his own happiness, whose noblest activity is productive achievement, and whose only absolute is reason, either. For that reason, I will not rest until I short-sheet the beds of all the judges involved in that reprehensible decision.
T: Uhh, thanks for your time Mike! Gotta' run. Really. Thanks. You're the man.
T
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dickerson looking like the missing link in line-up shopped pic
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Not sure who started this whole controversy thing back in the day. But the only people who keep it going are sheep who have never seen the pictures/videos or retarded Mike Menzter fans.
Arnold only prepared 8 weeks until the 1980 Mr Olympia. I am sure that's why most were pissed. Because it took them all year to get prepared and they still got shit on by the Oak.
Arnold in in 1980 was not a prime Arnold. Prime Arnold was 73/74. Arnold in 1980 was maybe 70-80% Arnold. His conditioning upper body was pretty good, legs not so much. He didn't have as much mass. Still had great lines and had enough mass to take on anyone at this Olympia though.
So let me clear it up once and for all.
I agree, mentzer's fans are retarded that thinks heavy duty is awesome because it's "hardcore" ::) Stupid people. Everytime I read that Mentzer is an uncrowned Mr. O. I feel like my IQ lose some points :P
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It amazes me with how much publicity one can get when you know the right people, network with the right people, have the right people behind you, treat them nice, show some personality/charisma/charm and respect combined with great timing, work hard and LOVE WHAT YOU DO, there's definitely no holding bars and you'll definitely become successful as they will show you the road to success and what it takes once you have that mentor or a coach.
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If Arnold didnt deserve it, then Mentzer certainly didnt, he looked awful, you cannot win Olympia with no chest. I thought Roger Walker should have taken it personally. Arnie looked good, as did Dickerson. It was between those three, zane was off due to the injury i guess.
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never seen these 4, awesome. Arnold looks like granite in the most muscular.
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thanks to other for posting good quality pictures. Arnold fucked everyone up. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucktard.
More Arnold pics.
Arnold Abs
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery6/xmg134.jpg)
(http://www.builtreport.com/1980olympia/020.jpg)
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more with Franco and Joe Weider.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/1980_olympia_review_o.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/1980_olympia_review_m.jpg)
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Great work ... Arnold was really DRY in 1980 keep them coming !
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awesome
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welcome to 40 years ago.
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welcome to 40 years ago.
31 ;)
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welcome to 40 years ago.
Ironically, in the Mr.Olympia contest...the "future" remains in the past
Enjoy. ;-)
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thanks to other for posting good quality pictures. Arnold fucked everyone up. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucktard.
unrageable is maintaining the rage.
Keep up the good fight.
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more
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Wow, Arnold's legs look unreal. He must have been doing some serious squatting.
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Is it a meltdown when a gimmick like unrageable argues with themself!? ???
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1 more with the ladies in 1980.
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Ironically, in the Mr.Olympia contest...the "future" remains in the past
Explains the Team Nasser mentality.
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Arnold is the king of kings...
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1 more with the ladies in 1980.
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/index1980-1.jpg)
pretty sure theres some more uncut candids from that shoot somewhere..
maybe in arnies library, next to latino maid erotica
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Damn Arnold, you have a lot of your own pics saved on your hard drive.
How's life treating you nowadays?
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This was on T-Nation :-X :-\
*snip*
You're a smart guy, ND. You know that's parody, right?
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arnold regret coming back and admit the controversy in total recall ... he acted like a bully in my view . but thats 33 years ago ... ..
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I think the only thing Arnold was crushing in 1980 was his maid.
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If he hadn't entered late and had his legs in better condition, there would have been no controversy.
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WoooSSHHHHHHH
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Looking at the pics of young Arnold should put to rest people claiming he was no more than 5'11 ::)
Clearly legit 6'1 ish
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Yes its obvious and he did look down on most people.
Obviously he's lost a couple of inches and
He recently admitted that when he said 6'5" joe manganiello is 5inches taller. Arnold used to stick by the 6'2" claim, like basile said he could have been 6'2 in the morning
Looking at the pics of young Arnold should put to rest people claiming he was no more than 5'11 ::)
Clearly legit 6'1 ish
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The only controversy of that day was that Arnold shouldn't entered the contest, that's it... Another myth of that Olympia was that Mentzer was in his best shape, lol, absolutely not... No chest, average back, narrow as fuck and probably the first one in history to sport a distended stomach... Uncrowned my ass, maybe the year or years before the '80, when he looked far better against Zane... Arnold wasn't in bad shape, altough smaller, he came more shredded, dry and conditioned than ever before just because at that time the standard was Zane's detailed, conditioned, ripped body... Arnold won that contest in my opinion...
Looking at the pics of young Arnold should put to rest people claiming he was no more than 5'11 ::)
Clearly legit 6'1 ish
Actually near Zane and Mentzer, both around 5'8 absolute max (maybe 5'7.5), he looks at best 6' foot... Everyone barefoot, no shoes and magic lifts, Arnold peak height was around that in my opinion, 6'-5'11.5, not 6'1 or 6'2...
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arnold was 6 foot two not more . . today he ad mit the controversy of this contest . .
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Arnold and Mentzer were both awesome!!!!
Mentzer was thick.......Arnold was good enough to win though in 80.
people do not give Dickerson enough credit......the man looked unreal in 80!!!
crazy detail and awesome calves and tris.......great stage presentation too.
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Why was his hair so greasy in Sydney?
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Many consider 1974 his best
i agree with 74, he was a beast that year
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Arnold destroys him.
Cant believe he drove himself to death whining about the result the rest of his life, bloke believed his own hype. Should have put it behind him and moved on
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Arnold is TRULY AN ICON,
He had it all physically but more importantly he had it- has it MENTALLY
He believed he was the GOAT and did whatever it took to win - whatever it took, how many people are willing to go to those lengths?
I guarantee he would have been President if it was legal to do so for him
When you think of other sports they all have their 'greats"- Jordan, Ruth, Ali, the Yankees, Notre Dame etc... but they all had their rivals who are still mentioned and thought of when their names are mentioned - but Arnold- ? yeah, maybe Oliva- but when you talk weights or bodybuilding EVERYBODY thinks Arnold first
Truly in a class by himself