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The haters continue to hate but Obama's legacy just keeps getting more beautiful. who ever thought we'd see $2 gas again in our lifetimes???.....Deficits are 75% lower and continue going down for the 8th straight year.....Unemployment at 5% and the most sustained job growth EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES!..Wall St. at record profits......and all of this with an unprecedented propaganda campaign against him by the republicans and FOX NEWS.......the Republican candidates consistently lie about the economy and how bad it is even in the face of the stats that prove otherwise...
Ronald Reagan was touted as a great job creator and yet Obama's job numbers dwarf his by a mile....not to mention the UE rate is lower than when Reagan left office...
its amazing some people just won't see the reality of what Obama has done for the economy
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/money/president-obama-weighs-his-economic-legacy/ar-BBsn0GN
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I see you're still delusional.
http://googleweblight.com/?lite_url=http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-first-president-ever-not-see-single-year-3-gdp/&s=1&f=1&ts=1461865339&sig=APY536wRngLwzXrtgJjZY1a88rQjZt44ow
Hope this helps (though I doubt it since you're blind because he's black)
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I see you're still delusional.
http://googleweblight.com/?lite_url=http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/simply-worst-obama-first-president-ever-not-see-single-year-3-gdp/&s=1&f=1&ts=1461865339&sig=APY536wRngLwzXrtgJjZY1a88rQjZt44ow
Hope this helps (though I doubt it since you're blind because he's black)
you fool..back when Reagan was president the U.S. was STILL the undisputed economic powerhouse in the world with no competition because there was no globalization back then.....and plus it was before NAFTA......the world is a different place now and very few economies are going to grow like they once did....which makes Obanma's accomplishments even more amazing
DESTROYED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AGAIN
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Hope this helps (though I doubt it since you're blind because he's black)
Yet Herman Cain and Carson, who were black, did not win. So weird that the woman/race card only applies to lib voters, huh?
Repubs could run condi rice and susana martinez in a dream ticket, and they'd still lose by 5 to HIlary. Sorry coach, this nation has shifted and you didn't notice.
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Gas at $2? Where?
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Gas at $2? Where?
New Jersey....and $2 and change around NY...remember when it was at $5???????????
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New Jersey....and $2 and change around NY...remember when it was at $5???????????
You do realize that gas prices are this low because usage is low and supply is high and the drilling oil producers are trying to price fracking out of the market so they can go back to manipulating their profits.
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The haters continue to hate but Obama's legacy just keeps getting more beautiful. who ever thought we'd see $2 gas again in our lifetimes???.....Deficits are 75% lower and continue going down for the 8th straight year.....Unemployment at 5% and the most sustained job growth EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES!..Wall St. at record profits......and all of this with an unprecedented propaganda campaign against him by the republicans and FOX NEWS.......the Republican candidates consistently lie about the economy and how bad it is even in the face of the stats that prove otherwise...
Ronald Reagan was touted as a great job creator and yet Obama's job numbers dwarf his by a mile....not to mention the UE rate is lower than when Reagan left office...
its amazing some people just won't see the reality of what Obama has done for the economy
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/money/president-obama-weighs-his-economic-legacy/ar-BBsn0GN
How about the labor participation rate there, champ? How's that looking?
Deficits are 75% lower than what metric? Are you trying to say national debt is 75% lower than any previous point? Where do you get this info?
Wall St....haha, profits...more like huge stock buybacks to keep the market propped up due to cheap govt money? Armageddon is coming there soon to fix all that shiny happy stuff.
Oil is low because OPEC decided to keep existing production going in the face of falling worldwide demand - in part because the US requested it to punish Russia. So I guess you can say big O had something to do with that....but what do we owe Saudi for the favor?
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How about the labor participation rate there, champ? How's that looking?
Deficits are 75% lower than what metric? Are you trying to say national debt is 75% lower than any previous point? Where do you get this info?
Wall St....haha, profits...more like huge stock buybacks to keep the market propped up due to cheap govt money? Armageddon is coming there soon to fix all that shiny happy stuff.
Oil is low because OPEC decided to keep existing production going in the face of falling worldwide demand - in part because the US requested it to punish Russia. So I guess you can say big O had something to do with that....but what do we owe Saudi for the favor?
Good points.
Don't forget that the gap between rich and poor is at its largest in history.
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You do realize that gas prices are this low because usage is low and supply is high and the drilling oil producers are trying to price fracking out of the market so they can go back to manipulating their profits.
of course...but Obama sure as heck got the blame when gas prices were high...so now he gets the credit when they are low
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How about the labor participation rate there, champ? How's that looking?
Deficits are 75% lower than what metric? Are you trying to say national debt is 75% lower than any previous point? Where do you get this info?
Wall St....haha, profits...more like huge stock buybacks to keep the market propped up due to cheap govt money? Armageddon is coming there soon to fix all that shiny happy stuff.
Oil is low because OPEC decided to keep existing production going in the face of falling worldwide demand - in part because the US requested it to punish Russia. So I guess you can say big O had something to do with that....but what do we owe Saudi for the favor?
No one EVER even heard of the Labor Participation rate until it was used against Obama to diminish his acomplishments....the Labor Participatiion rate has been going down since WWII....I guess thats Obama's fault??????????????...also, champ, the reason why the Labor Particpation rate is going down is due to our aging population and the retirement of baby boomers......who were the largest work force participants in U.S. history.....as for the price of oil, yes Obama did work with the saudis to lower oil I guess...BUT...also we had a huge economic oil boom (fracking) under Obama..so give him credit for that as well....
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Good points.
Don't forget that the gap between rich and poor is at its largest in history.
Gap between rich and poor is happening because for years the minimum wage did not go up and corporations are not paying people what they ae actually worth.....government has been subsidizing the private sector through food stamp distribution as well...
remember when companies at least paid our fathers enough so that they could take care of our families??????....that enabled fasthers to support their wives and children on ONE INCOME.....companies abandoned that way of thinking a long time ago
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Gap between rich and poor is happening because for years the minimum wage did not go up and corporations are not paying people what they ae actually worth.....government has been subsidizing the private sector through food stamp distribution as well...
remember when companies at least paid our fathers enough so that they could take care of our families??????....that enabled fasthers to support their wives and children on ONE INCOME.....companies abandoned that way of thinking a long time ago
Wow, you make another great point....food stamp usage has sky-rocketed as well!
Ouch!
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Wow, you make another great point....food stamp usage has sky-rocketed as well!
Ouch!
Definitely has...no doubt about it...but thats due to mostly stagnant wages
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of course...but Obama sure as heck got the blame when gas prices were high...so now he gets the credit when they are low
When you're against raising production you get blamed for a shortage of supply, and get no credit for a surplus...you're a fuking moron
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Definitely has...no doubt about it...but thats due to mostly stagnant wages
Okay, so Obama's legacy...
Massive increase in food stamp usage
Stagnant wages
Biggest gap between rich and poor in history.
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No one EVER even heard of the Labor Participation rate until it was used against Obama to diminish his acomplishments....the Labor Participatiion rate has been going down since WWII....I guess thats Obama's fault??????????????...also, champ, the reason why the Labor Particpation rate is going down is due to our aging population and the retirement of baby boomers......who were the largest work force participants in U.S. history.....as for the price of oil, yes Obama did work with the saudis to lower oil I guess...BUT...also we had a huge economic oil boom (fracking) under Obama..so give him credit for that as well....
Exactly. There wasn't such a thing as "real unemployment" until the "colored" guy took office. LOL.
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It's so funny to see blind partisans argue... it's a pity that this comes at the expense of our country getting more and more fucked up.
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Good points.
Don't forget that the gap between rich and poor is at its largest in history.
I thought that was what republicans wanted.
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Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
Is America better off now than it was 8 years ago?
Bah!
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Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
Is America better off now than it was 8 years ago?
Bah!
Actually yes to both. Bush destroyed this country.
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Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
Is America better off now than it was 8 years ago?
Bah!
The country itself is worse off.
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The country itself is worse off.
No way......again.....$2 gas.......5% unemployment......lower and lower deficit for seven straight years....and it will be eight when Obama is leaving office....wall st booming higher than anyone could have ever dreamed
The problem is that corporations are not paying people a fair wage..if you adjust for inflation the minimum wage is way below what it should be....so the gov't has to subsidize this underpayment of the American workl force through food stamps...Conservatives have sold us on the idea that raising the minimum wage kills jobs....this has not happened at any time during other minimum wage increases...
Also the killing off of the unions has had the effect of stagnating American wages where employes can no longer bargain for what they are worth
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When you're against raising production you get blamed for a shortage of supply, and get no credit for a surplus...you're a fuking moron
I see you're still calling people names instead of debating....you haven't changed..I'm actually glad you're back..I miss destroying you 8)
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The country itself is worse off.
Correct. The national debt skyrocketed the past eight years.
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Correct. The national debt skyrocketed the past eight years.
This is where I ask you if it grew by a greater % under Obama, or Bush.
THis is where you look it up, and realize it more than doubled under Bush, and Obama's still not quite there.
Then you insult me, play a little pocket pool, and hit post.
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This is where I ask you if it grew by a greater % under Obama, or Bush.
THis is where you look it up, and realize it more than doubled under Bush, and Obama's still not quite there.
Then you insult me, play a little pocket pool, and hit post.
This is where I ignore Obama's biggest fan boy, who never misses an opportunity to try and give the worst president of my lifetime cover.
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This is where I ignore Obama's biggest fan boy, who never misses an opportunity to try and give the worst president of my lifetime cover.
aww, a personal attack after I destroy your argument. You're not attacking the message, now are you?
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Holy shit another thread where 240 sucks Obama cock and helps andretheretard give him a reach around. Where the fuck do u retards come up with this shit. Race relations are in the tank....goddam chicoms and the Russians are back at it. Money markets are all inflated....middle east is on fire and the fucking Iranians are gonna have nukes.....yeah that Obama, great fucking president.
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Holy shit another thread where 240 sucks Obama cock and helps andretheretard give him a reach around. Where the fuck do u retards come up with this shit. Race relations are in the tank....goddam chicoms and the Russians are back at it. Money markets are all inflated....middle east is on fire and the fucking Iranians are gonna have nukes.....yeah that Obama, great fucking president.
nice attacks. but %-wise, obama has grown the debt less than Bush. And yes, things look way better today than they did in 2008, banks arent collapsing each week.
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Bush bailed out the banks there, and the deficit reduction is highly related to the sequester that Obama and you blamed on the republicans moron
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nice attacks. but %-wise, obama has grown the debt less than Bush. And yes, things look way better today than they did in 2008, banks arent collapsing each week.
Are you retarded....really 240, things are better? Only a guy who voted for Obama would say this.....please stop telling us you're not an Obama supporter.
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Correct. The national debt skyrocketed the past eight years.
Our national debt has been going up and and up and for the past 40 yrs.......the Debt went up under Reagan and Clinton, YET their presidencies were considered successful....
We are still in recovery and still paying for two unfunded wars, tax cuts for the rich that weren't needed, and unfunded Prescription drug bill all from Bush....
again...$2 gas, Oil at $30 per barrel, UE at 5% and deficits down almost 8 straight years.....plus the most sustained job growth in the history op this country AND Wall st. Higher than its EVER been
ALSO...Nuclear deal with Iranians which translates to war being averted and OPEC destroyed
to say the country is worst off strains credulity...and destroys your own credibility
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Bush bailed out the banks there, and the deficit reduction is highly related to the sequester that Obama and you blamed on the republicans moron
Budget deficit was already down for a few years even BEFORE sequester.....Obama pushed through TARP to save the banks, PLUS saved the Auto industry which is now selling more cars than ever before in U.S. history, OPEC destroyed....Oil dependence way down, and U.S. now gets 5% of its energy from green programs Obama put in place
THANKS OBAMA
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nice attacks. but %-wise, obama has grown the debt less than Bush. And yes, things look way better today than they did in 2008, banks arent collapsing each week.
Eight year recovery (and still not recovered) growing at less than 3% (worse than Pres on record) more on the government dole, more people out of work, etc, etc, etc
You have an MBA from where again?
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Eight year recovery (and still not recovered) growing at less than 3% (worse than Pres on record) more on the government dole, more people out of work, etc, etc, etc
You have an MBA from where again?
Is the economy in better shape today, than it was in Fall 2008? Yes or no?
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aww, a personal attack after I destroy your argument. You're not attacking the message, now are you?
You didn't destroy anything. You are an idiot.
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Are you retarded....really 240, things are better? Only a guy who voted for Obama would say this.....please stop telling us you're not an Obama supporter.
Of course he's an Obama supporter.
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Our national debt has been going up and and up and for the past 40 yrs.......the Debt went up under Reagan and Clinton, YET their presidencies were considered successful....
We are still in recovery and still paying for two unfunded wars, tax cuts for the rich that weren't needed, and unfunded Prescription drug bill all from Bush....
again...$2 gas, Oil at $30 per barrel, UE at 5% and deficits down almost 8 straight years.....plus the most sustained job growth in the history op this country AND Wall st. Higher than its EVER been
ALSO...Nuclear deal with Iranians which translates to war being averted and OPEC destroyed
to say the country is worst off strains credulity...and destroys your own credibility
The question was whether our country is better off today than eight years ago. The clear answer is "no." The fact the national debt rose under Obama more than all previous presidents in U.S. history is one of the reasons why our country is worse off today than eight years ago.
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You didn't destroy anything. You are an idiot.
and you are overweight. I think you should worry more about your waistline than about what people on getbig think about the improvements made to the economy over the past 8 years.
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and you are overweight. I think you should worry more about your waistline than about what people on getbig think about the improvements made to the economy over the past 8 years.
How the heck do you know how much I weigh? Seriously? You friggin stalker weirdo. But I did just add about 5 pounds of creatine water weight gain.
Post the link to the Cruz sex tape.
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How the heck do you know how much I weigh? Seriously? You friggin stalker weirdo. But I did just add about 5 pounds of creatine water weight gain.
are you using the regular or the micronized? One of those flavored mixes, or just adding it to juice?
I don't really know if you're getting fat, I just assume when you get crabby on getbig, that you're feeling bloated. and when you're polite, you're obviously feeling leaner. I do understand your anguish. Dem vs Dem in the 2016 race. That's gotta hurt for someone who believed in Ben Carson so much.
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are you using the regular or the micronized? One of those flavored mixes, or just adding it to juice?
I don't really know if you're getting fat, I just assume when you get crabby on getbig, that you're feeling bloated. and when you're polite, you're obviously feeling leaner. I do understand your anguish. Dem vs Dem in the 2016 race. That's gotta hurt for someone who believed in Ben Carson so much.
Stop trying to act like you know anything about supplements. Or me. How many times have I told you to go find a boyfriend and stop stalking me? Friggin weirdo.
Post the link to the Cruz sex tape.
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The question was whether our country is better off today than eight years ago. The clear answer is "no." The fact the national debt rose under Obama more than all previous presidents in U.S. history is one of the reasons why our country is worse off today than eight years ago.
How much was oil and gas 8 yrs ago???
What was the UE rate 8 yrs ago???
Where was Wall St. at 8 yrs ago???
Were the banks collapsing 8 yrs ago???
Was the auto industry collapsing 8 yrs ago???
Where are all the free market conservatives who said we should just let the auto industry and banking industry die...all in the name of free markets?????
Granted, National Debt is bigger.......would have been so much bigger had we went to war in Syria and Iran like the conservatives wanted....
SORRY OH GREAT PONTIFICATOR
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How much was oil and gas 8 yrs ago???
What was the UE rate 8 yrs ago???
Where was Wall St. at 8 yrs ago???
Were the banks collapsing 8 yrs ago???
Was the auto industry collapsing 8 yrs ago???
Where are all the free market conservatives who said we should just let the auto industry and banking industry die...all in the name of free markets?????
Granted, National Debt is bigger.......would have been so much bigger had we went to war in Syria and Iran like the conservatives wanted....
SORRY OH GREAT PONTIFICATOR
The national debt isn't just bigger. It grew more under Obama's watch than under all previous administrations in U.S. history. That is a crippling amount of debt.
$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency
By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times
Sunday, November 1, 2015
When President Obama signs into law the new two-year budget deal Monday, his action will bring into sharper focus a part of his legacy that he doesn’t like to talk about: He is the $20 trillion man.
Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so by the end of his presidency in 2017. Added to the current total national debt of more than $18.15 trillion, the red ink will likely be crowding the $20 trillion mark right around the time Mr. Obama leaves the White House.
When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/1/obama-presidency-to-end-with-20-trillion-national-/?page=all
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The national debt isn't just bigger. It grew more under Obama's watch than under all previous administrations in U.S. history. That is a crippling amount of debt.
Not by %. Right? Even if he hits 20 trillion, he doesn't double it. Like Bush did.
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Not by %. Right? Even if he hits 20 trillion, he doesn't double it. Like Bush did.
I thought the Village Idiot was the dumbest person posting on this board. Perhaps I was wrong.
"When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011."
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He's just completed work on creating a domestic-spying program, yet he'll do everything he can to stop the 9/11 families from finding justice.
What's wrong with this picture?
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"When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011."
NEARLY doubled under Obama. You're right.
President Bush added the second greatest amount to the debt, at $5.849 trillion. But he added a lot more percentage-wise, more than doubling the debt.
Sorry, don't be sad.
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This is where I ignore Obama's biggest fan boy, who never misses an opportunity to try and give the worst president of my lifetime cover.
worst president in your lifetime ?
LOL - I guess during Obama's two terms he allowed multiple terrorist attacks on US soil that killed thousands of citizens, started two disastrous wars with no plan on how to win (costing us a few trillion dollars and killing and maiming tens of thousands of more citizens and creating fodder for the creation of worldwide terror networks) and then to cap it off in his last months in office watched the stock and credit markets crash setting off job losses of hundreds of thousands each month and with tens of thousands of people losing their homes.
Yeah, I can see why you'd think he was the worst president in your lifetime
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Budget deficit was already down for a few years even BEFORE sequester.....Obama pushed through TARP to save the banks, PLUS saved the Auto industry which is now selling more cars than ever before in U.S. history, OPEC destroyed....Oil dependence way down, and U.S. now gets 5% of its energy from green programs Obama put in place
THANKS OBAMA
Actually you're wrong
https://www.lordabbett.com/en/perspectives/economicinsights/dramatically-dropping-deficits-keep-dreaming.html
"1) The sequester cut spending after the first quarter of calendar 2013. It is, in fact, safe to say that the entire spending decline was due to it. Had it not occurred, the deficit would have come in at closer to $764 billion—still a significant improvement over fiscal 2012, but less dramatic than was actually recorded. Though the sequester will likely become more significant going forward, additional absolute cuts are unlikely."
And bush put together the bank bail outs, remember him having both McCain and Obama to the White House to talk on it? Even Obama agrees that bush put together the bank bail outs. Obama signed it yes but he didn't create it.
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And actually the more I thought about it, it was bush who bailed out the banks...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-americans-think-obama-not-bush-enacted-bank-bailouts-poll-shows/
"Nearly half of Americans incorrectly think President Obama started the the bank bailout program, otherwise known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), a new poll shows.
Just 34 percent of Americans surveyed by the Pew Research Center correctly said that TARP was enacted by the Bush administration. Almost half -- 47 percent -- think Mr. Obama started the bank bailout, according to the survey, conducted July 1-5. There was no partisan divide on the issue.
The TARP program was created in 2008 to stabilize the financial system. The Treasury Department has committed more than $500 billion to more than 800 firms through the program. While Mr. Obama did not enact TARP, his administration has largely been responsible for administering it."
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Oh and it was bush he started the auto bail outs too....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/an-inconvenient-truth-it-was-george-w-bush-who-bailed-out-the-automakers
"On December 19, 2008, a week after Republicans in the Senate had killed a bailout bill proposed by Democrats, saying it didn’t impose big enough wage cuts on the U.A.W., Bush unilaterally agreed to lend $17.4 billion of taxpayers’ money to General Motors and Chrysler, of which $13.4 billion was to be extended immediately. He had to twist the law to get the money. Deprived of congressional funding, he diverted cash from the loathed TARP program, which Congress had already passed, but which was supposed to be restricted to rescuing the banks. “I didn’t want there to twenty-one-per-cent unemployment,” he said to a meeting of the National Automobile Dealers Association in Las Vegas last month, explaining why he acted as he did. “I didn’t want history to look back and say, ‘Bush could have done something but chose not to do it.’ ”
Obama, who in December, 2008, was the President-elect, publicly supported Bush’s move, saying it was a “necessary step to avoid a collapse in our auto industry that would have devastating consequences for our economy and our workers.” After taking office six weeks later, Obama put together an auto task force that extended tens of billions more in emergency financing to Detroit over the ensuing months, and also did what appears to have been a pretty good job in restructuring G.M. and selling Chrysler to Fiat."
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NEARLY doubled under Obama. You're right.
President Bush added the second greatest amount to the debt, at $5.849 trillion. But he added a lot more percentage-wise, more than doubling the debt.
Sorry, don't be sad.
You are really dumb.
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Actually you're wrong
And bush put together the bank bail outs, remember him having both McCain and Obama to the White House to talk on it? Even Obama agrees that bush put together the bank bail outs. Obama signed it yes but he didn't create it.
If you look at my exact wording I stated that Obama PUSHED THROUGH the Tarp law....He is the one who ACTUALLY signed it into law and deserves the credit since it's HIS signature on the bill....as for bailing out the auto industry, EVERYONE acknowledges that Obama is credited with that.....
Really weird that now that the Auto bailout is a resounding success, ALL OF A SUDDEN people like you who were initially complaining about it and bashing Obama for it, are now trying to take the credit away from Obama and give it to Bush, meanwhile when it initially went through I didn't hear one person blame it on Bush
STRANGE................. .................
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worst president in your lifetime ?
LOL - I guess during Obama's two terms he allowed multiple terrorist attacks on US soil that killed thousands of citizens, started two disastrous wars with no plan on how to win (costing us a few trillion dollars and killing and maiming tens of thousands of more citizens and creating fodder for the creation of worldwide terror networks) and then to cap it off in his last months in office watched the stock and credit markets crash setting off job losses of hundreds of thousands each month and with tens of thousands of people losing their homes.
Yeah, I can see why you'd think he was the worst president in your lifetime
Agreed....its this type of conservative overreach and overstatement that constantly gets them into trouble
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The national debt isn't just bigger. It grew more under Obama's watch than under all previous administrations in U.S. history. That is a crippling amount of debt.
$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency
By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times
Sunday, November 1, 2015
When President Obama signs into law the new two-year budget deal Monday, his action will bring into sharper focus a part of his legacy that he doesn’t like to talk about: He is the $20 trillion man.
Mr. Obama’s spending agreement with Congress will suspend the nation’s debt limit and allow the Treasury to borrow another $1.5 trillion or so by the end of his presidency in 2017. Added to the current total national debt of more than $18.15 trillion, the red ink will likely be crowding the $20 trillion mark right around the time Mr. Obama leaves the White House.
When Mr. Obama took over in January 2009, the total national debt stood at $10.6 trillion. That means the debt will have very nearly doubled during his eight years in office, and there is much more debt ahead with the abandonment of “sequestration” spending caps enacted in 2011.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/1/obama-presidency-to-end-with-20-trillion-national-/?page=all
I will acknowledge that you are somewhat correct in terms of the national debt under Obama, but as usual you are only telling half the story...HOWEVER....for a few years after Obama was elected, a lot of that deficit was still a hangover from the Bush years.....we were still paying for two wars, unneeded tax cuts for the wealthy, and Bush's unfunded Prescription Drug Bill.........plus had lower tax receipts due to the massive unemployment Obama was left with....
SORRY AGAIN
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If you look at my exact wording I stated that Obama PUSHED THROUGH the Tarp law....He is the one who ACTUALLY signed it into law and deserves the credit since it's HIS signature on the bill....as for bailing out the auto industry, EVERYONE acknowledges that Obama is credited with that.....
Really weird that now that the Auto bailout is a resounding success, ALL OF A SUDDEN people like you who were initially complaining about it and bashing Obama for it, are now trying to take the credit away from Obama and give it to Bush, meanwhile when it initially went through I didn't hear one person blame it on Bush
STRANGE................. .................
Actually dumb ass you're wrong it was bush who signed tarp, do some research and it was bush who used those tarp funds to initially bail out the auto industry...
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/bush-signs-tarp-legislation-oct-3-2008-097742
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Actually dumb ass you're wrong it was bush who signed tarp, do some research and it was bush who used those tarp funds to initially bail out the auto industry...
Really?...it was Bush?...wow if you're right I really blew that one....I thought it was Obama..That s what I get for believing Soul Crusher's propaganda....I remember he always stated that it was Obama and thats one reason he was angry at him
Thanks for the correction
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Really?...it was Bush?...wow if you're right I really blew that one....I thought it was Obama..That s what I get for believing Soul Crusher's propaganda....I remember he always stated that it was Obama and thats one reason he was angry at him
Thanks for the correction
There were two TARP payouts. The first big payout was by Bush and the second was Obama based on Tim Geitner's recommendation. Don't forget Geitner was a Wall Street bitch.
Funny thing and people don't realize is that at the time Oil was at about $20. Gas was cheap. The gov forced all banks to take bailout money including Goldman Sachs who didn't need it. So Goldman took $7 billion, dumped it into Oil, ran the price up, took their profits and were the first to repay back the bailout money. This essentially ran gas and oil prices up for the next decade. Fucking Government.
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Really?...it was Bush?...wow if you're right I really blew that one....I thought it was Obama..That s what I get for believing Soul Crusher's propaganda....I remember he always stated that it was Obama and thats one reason he was angry at him
Thanks for the correction
Obama did tarp 2 and the failed stimulus package
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Obama did tarp 2 and the failed stimulus package
so we were both somewhat right then?
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There were two TARP payouts. The first big payout was by Bush and the second was Obama based on Tim Geitner's recommendation. Don't forget Geitner was a Wall Street bitch.Funny thing and people don't realize is that at the time Oil was at about $20. Gas was cheap. The gov forced all banks to take bailout money including Goldman Sachs who didn't need it. So Goldman took $7 billion, dumped it into Oil, ran the price up, took their profits and were the first to repay back the bailout money. This essentially ran gas and oil prices up for the next decade. Fucking Government.
Good job......thanks!
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Eight year recovery (and still not recovered) growing at less than 3% (worse than Pres on record) more on the government dole, more people out of work, etc, etc, etc
You have an MBA from where again?
Name another big nation in the world who has had a better recovery than us???????????????????????????????.......China is in the dumps now.....Russia's economy is actually SHRINKING......the European nations are a mess...Brazil has tanked...
Obama actually looks good compared to everyone else,...AGAIN..HIGHEST AND LONGEST SUSTAINED JOB GROWTH IN PROBABLY THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD....definitely in the history of the United States
Also the days of 3-4% GDP growth is probably over...for almost ALL nations
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So we suck just slightly less then everybody else....great being compared to China and friggen Brazil.....really! One country works its people to death in slave factories and builds fake cities and the other boasts amazon tribes that have never seen white people or a an indoor shitter.
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I will acknowledge that you are somewhat correct in terms of the national debt under Obama, but as usual you are only telling half the story...HOWEVER....for a few years after Obama was elected, a lot of that deficit was still a hangover from the Bush years.....we were still paying for two wars, unneeded tax cuts for the wealthy, and Bush's unfunded Prescription Drug Bill.........plus had lower tax receipts due to the massive unemployment Obama was left with....
SORRY AGAIN
Somewhat correct? ::) What Obama did with the national debt was unpatriotic.
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Somewhat correct? ::) What Obama did with the national debt was unpatriotic.
I don't know about that.
The debt is only slightly higher than the GDP of the country.
That's not a huge ratio really. However, it really really REALLY needs to start getting paid back down. We can not continue like this forever.
Here's the problem though... We can't just cut the so called "welfare" portions. You have to cut them all.
You would have to cut medicare, social security, (which you paid into), and defense as well.
Those are the big spenders and let's be honest, who is going to cut them all? Which constituency is ok with cutting them? I don't know of any possible way that any of them can get cut because even Republicans refuse to cut SS. They refuse to cut Defense. They only want to cut the so called "welfare" portions.
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I don't know about that.
The debt is only slightly higher than the GDP of the country.
That's not a huge ratio really. However, it really really REALLY needs to start getting paid back down. We can not continue like this forever.
Here's the problem though... We can't just cut the so called "welfare" portions. You have to cut them all.
You would have to cut medicare, social security, (which you paid into), and defense as well.
Those are the big spenders and let's be honest, who is going to cut them all? Which constituency is ok with cutting them? I don't know of any possible way that any of them can get cut because even Republicans refuse to cut SS. They refuse to cut Defense. They only want to cut the so called "welfare" portions.
It's not somewhat correct that the national debt exploded under Obama, or that he added more than all previous presidents combined. Those are the absolute facts.
How we deal the national debt is a separate question.
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It's not somewhat correct that the national debt exploded under Obama, or that he added more than all previous presidents combined. Those are the absolute facts.
How we deal the national debt is a separate question.
No, I don't think it's correct that it's necessarily "unpatriotic". If so, that would make a lot of the previous presidents unpatriotic. Reagan, Bush I, Bush II.
I believe they loved the US and they also doubled the debt. (Actually there are a lot more), but going back 30 years is enough I think.
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No, I don't think it's correct that it's necessarily "unpatriotic". If so, that would make a lot of the previous presidents unpatriotic. Reagan, Bush I, Bush II.
I believe they loved the US and they also doubled the debt. (Actually there are a lot more), but going back 30 years is enough I think.
I don't necessarily think it's unpatriotic. I was quoting Obama.
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So we suck just slightly less then everybody else....great being compared to China and friggen Brazil.....really! One country works its people to death in slave factories and builds fake cities and the other boasts amazon tribes that have never seen white people or a an indoor shitter.
What about the WHITE countires??????..you sure conveniently overlooked them....we are doing better than Russia, and ALL of Europe
Are you EVER HAPPY???
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Somewhat correct? ::) What Obama did with the national debt was unpatriotic.
and again you are telling half-truths...again in Obama's first few years in office...still paying for Iraq...still paying for Afghanistan...etc.....so me of the deficit was a hangover from that...and you know this...you choose to be purposely ignorant
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I don't know about that.
The debt is only slightly higher than the GDP of the country.
That's not a huge ratio really. However, it really really REALLY needs to start getting paid back down. We can not continue like this forever.
Here's the problem though... We can't just cut the so called "welfare" portions. You have to cut them all.
You would have to cut medicare, social security, (which you paid into), and defense as well.
Those are the big spenders and let's be honest, who is going to cut them all? Which constituency is ok with cutting them? I don't know of any possible way that any of them can get cut because even Republicans refuse to cut SS. They refuse to cut Defense. They only want to cut the so called "welfare" portions.
Agreed..you would need a guy who is a real asshole, and who doesn't care about being re-elected or what people think about him....he would come in for one term and just slash everything (including Defense) and not give a shit...maybe Trump is that guy ;D
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I don't necessarily think it's unpatriotic. I was quoting Obama.
AH.
True.
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AH.
True.
Except that Obama HAS made an effort to keep spending down...AGAIN...8 straight years where the deficit has gone down......I believe that his not wanting to go to war in Syria and Iran was motivated by not wanting to spending trillions of dallars AGAIN
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Spent more than every single president before him COMBINED and he's made an effort ... This is why I laugh at people into politics
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Except that Obama HAS made an effort to keep spending down...AGAIN...8 straight years where the deficit has gone down......I believe that his not wanting to go to war in Syria and Iran was motivated by not wanting to spending trillions of dallars AGAIN
Again the majority of deficit reduction is due to the sequester which he was against...
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Just a reminder! Obama added more debt than any other president. We're writing 100 billion dollar checks to Iran! People who hate us! What the fuck are we doing! ???
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Just a reminder! Obama added more debt than any other president. We're writing 100 billion dollar checks to Iran! People who hate us! What the fuck are we doing! ???
didn't Bush and Clinton also more than double the debt, which is exactly the same as "spending more than any other president'?
There's a good chance whoever takes office will take it from 21 trillion to 35 or 40 trillion in eight years.
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Just a reminder! Obama added more debt than any other president. We're writing 100 billion dollar checks to Iran! People who hate us! What the fuck are we doing! ???
Stupid. Old fashioned stupid.
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Spent more than every single president before him COMBINED and he's made an effort ... This is why I laugh at people into politics
sigh......actually not true.....Obama has reduced the deficit by 1 Trillion dollars since he has taken office......deficit STILL going down..which means less interest payments on the debt...its a shame the r\Republicans have brainwashed you
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/deficit-shrinks-1-trillion-obama-era
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/the_gops_entire_identity_is_based_on_a_lie_how_the_obama_presidency_exposed_republican_deficit_delusions/
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Again the majority of deficit reduction is due to the sequester which he was against...
and AGAIN...it was going down even before the sequester...plus no wars to pay for
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Just a reminder! Obama added more debt than any other president. We're writing 100 billion dollar checks to Iran! People who hate us! What the fuck are we doing! ???
sigh.....we are not writing ANYTHING to Iran...we are simply giving them back THEIR OWN MONEY that we confiscated
DESTROYED
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Also for you deficit hawks...notice how the Republicans don't even talk about the deficit any more....why has the Tea Party been so quiet about it????.....because there is good news concerning the deficit..thats why....you never hear from the Republicans when there is good news
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Andre owning the shit out of the GOP.
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Andre owning the shit out of the GOP.
:) ;) 8)
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and AGAIN...it was going down even before the sequester...plus no wars to pay for
Did you not read my link? Do you not pay attention to reality? Almost the entire deficit reduction has been a result of the sequester
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didn't Bush and Clinton also more than double the debt, which is exactly the same as "spending more than any other president'?
There's a good chance whoever takes office will take it from 21 trillion to 35 or 40 trillion in eight years.
Obama is doing worse than anyone before him. Bush brought it to over 10 trillion and now this clown increases it to nearly 20 trillion. That's insane! I voted for Obama because I didn't think he could be worse than Bush, boy I was wrong! Our military is weaker than before WWII on top of this big fat mess.
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Obama is doing worse than anyone before him. Bush brought it to over 10 trillion and now this clown increases it to nearly 20 trillion. That's insane! I voted for Obama because I didn't think he could be worse than Bush, boy I was wrong! Our military is weaker than before WWII on top of this big fat mess.
I can't just blame obama - the republicans vetoed zero of his spending bills/budgets, right? Boehnner colluded with obama/reid to undermine the new 2015 republican senate by giving obama 1.4 trillion before they ran out the door.
And just because our military is smaller doesn't mean it's weaker. Yes, we have fewer troops/weapons. But we can put a JDAM thru a car window in baghdad from a remote control in Tampa, and we do it all the time. This rallying cry "we need a bigger military" doesn't really mix with the need to reduce a 20 trillion dollar debt.
Do you believe Trump will completely erase the 20 trillion debt in 8 years - AS HE CLAIMED?
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Obama is doing worse than anyone before him. Bush brought it to over 10 trillion and now this clown increases it to nearly 20 trillion. That's insane! I voted for Obama because I didn't think he could be worse than Bush, boy I was wrong! Our military is weaker than before WWII on top of this big fat mess.
Are you sure you're old enough to vote?
Our military is smaller.
Not weaker.
The Defense spending is higher than it has ever been.
So what did Obama do to make the military "weaker"?
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Are you sure you're old enough to vote?
Our military is smaller.
Not weaker.
The Defense spending is higher than it has ever been.
So what did Obama do to make the military "weaker"?
Trump keeps promising to make our military strong. It's very strong. Nobody is beating down our military. We lose one soldier, sadly, to ISiS and it's a big freakin' deal. We're pinkmisting their guys daily and it's barely news.
The military is fine. Trump can argue about HOW obama is using it - Trump advocates torture and he advocates murdering the wife/children of terrorists. Okay, that is very different from what obama is doing. ANd that's cool if his supporters want to see that.
Reminds me of the scene from Game of Thrones when the Queen is sending the guards to stab all the bastard children that the king fathers. Stabbing babies in their cribs - not that much different from Trump dropping bombs/sending in men with rifles, to "take out their families".
We have plenty of military, with the coolest toys on the planet, and the best training too. Obama just isn't using them as Trump and his supporters wish.
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Trump keeps promising to make our military strong. It's very strong. Nobody is beating down our military. We lose one soldier, sadly, to ISiS and it's a big freakin' deal. We're pinkmisting their guys daily and it's barely news.
The military is fine. Trump can argue about HOW obama is using it - Trump advocates torture and he advocates murdering the wife/children of terrorists. Okay, that is very different from what obama is doing. ANd that's cool if his supporters want to see that.
Reminds me of the scene from Game of Thrones when the Queen is sending the guards to stab all the bastard children that the king fathers. Stabbing babies in their cribs - not that much different from Trump dropping bombs/sending in men with rifles, to "take out their families".
We have plenty of military, with the coolest toys on the planet, and the best training too. Obama just isn't using them as Trump and his supporters wish.
Much agreed here...we are slowly destroying ISIS and killing their troops on the ground and capturing /killing their leaders...just as Obama said we would....ISIS is losing more and more territory each day....Obama said it would take a while...and he was right....and the fact that its HUGE news and the Republicans cry when we lose ONE SOLDIER shows what an effective job Obama is doing with very little help from our allies who are mostly hiding behind our skirts as usual....
and you are right..our military in terms of toys and training is the best in the world.....its always a shame when the Republicans have absolutely nothing to talk about because then they have to become hysterical and make things up...
BY THE WAY....WHERE IS THE TEA PARTY IN ALL OF THIS>????????????????????....notice how quiet they have been and the Republicans don't even mention them any more..could it be that the Tea Party was just a reaction to Obama's skin color??????????????????....now that the president will be white again has this taken the wind out their sails??????????
JUST A THEORY
and yes..THIS TIME you can blame me for bringing up race
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Are you sure you're old enough to vote?
Our military is smaller.
Not weaker.
The Defense spending is higher than it has ever been.
So what did Obama do to make the military "weaker"?
Good point..definitely agree
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Obama is doing worse than anyone before him. Bush brought it to over 10 trillion and now this clown increases it to nearly 20 trillion. That's insane! I voted for Obama because I didn't think he could be worse than Bush, boy I was wrong! Our military is weaker than before WWII on top of this big fat mess.
amd again....still paying for two wars, the Meidcare Part D drug bill, and the worst recession ever in the history of the United States...interems ot eh Military being weaker...we have less manpowere.....but you don't need a huge army when you are not really fighting a large scale world war like we were doing then.
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Are you sure you're old enough to vote?
Our military is smaller.
Not weaker.
The Defense spending is higher than it has ever been.
So what did Obama do to make the military "weaker"?
As a percentage of government spending defense has been getting smaller and smaller as a result of large increases in social spending
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tea party? they're torn.
they like trump's renegade attitude, but wow, he's been the biggest liberal around for several decades.
they like trump's birtherism CT, but wow, they dislike that 911 conspiracy/Alex jones side of trump.
many of them fell under his spell and turned on ted cruz - an actual conservative - in favor of trump's celebrity.
Now they're semi-enthusiastic. They hate hilary, so they back trump, but it's harder every day as he adopts more liberal positions.
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As a percentage of government spending defense has been getting smaller and smaller as a result of large increases in social spending
It's 18%. So it's the second largest singular line item.
Sure, other individual programs added up, if you look a SS, Medicare, stuff like that, but man, that's a big number.
Still bigger than pretty much everyone else.
(https://images.washingtonpost.com/?url=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/01/4A8078449E794DFB8CC33ADD00A6F1AF.gif&op=noop)
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It's expensive to the the global police unit for the world banks.
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It's 18%. So it's the second largest singular line item.
Sure, other individual programs added up, if you look a SS, Medicare, stuff like that, but man, that's a big number.
Still bigger than pretty much everyone else.
(https://images.washingtonpost.com/?url=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/01/4A8078449E794DFB8CC33ADD00A6F1AF.gif&op=noop)
Yes its a large aggregate number but it's not fair to lump all defensive spending into one line item and then break out social spending into individual ones...not saying we don't spend a lot I'm only saying that as a whole of what we spend its much smaller than social programs
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Months later and the same retards on this website are claiming that the country is better now than 8 years ago?
Where do you morons get your facts?
Fact: The National debt almost doubled under Obama. AND THAT IS AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR BUSH'S BAILOUT.
Fact: Gas at $2 (even in NJ) is still higher than when Bush was in office.
Fact: More people are on some form of government assistance now than 8 years ago.
Fact: The current failureinchief is the only president to never have a year of 3% GDP growth during his "presidency".
Fact: Labor participation rate is at an all-time low. It is now at 62.7%.
Fact: Anyone who believes that the UE rate is 5% is an idiot. The number you are fed doesn't take into account people who have given up looking for work. If they did, the UE rate would be double.
Fact: Wage increase is anemic. Average household income has dropped by 2.5%.
Fact: The only people who believe America is better now than a decade ago are a bunch of f-ags, lesbians, socialist liberal lazy pigs, social justice morons and do nothings that have a permanently extended hand for any government handout.
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Months later and the same retards on this website are claiming that the country is better now than 8 years ago?
Where do you morons get your facts?
Fact: The National debt almost doubled under Obama. AND THAT IS AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR BUSH'S BAILOUT.
Fact: Gas at $2 (even in NJ) is still higher than when Bush was in office.
Fact: More people are on some form of government assistance now than 8 years ago.
Fact: The current failureinchief is the only president to never have a year of 3% GDP growth during his "presidency".
Fact: Labor participation rate is at an all-time low. It is now at 62.7%.
Fact: Anyone who believes that the UE rate is 5% is an idiot. The number you are fed doesn't take into account people who have given up looking for work. If they did, the UE rate would be double.
Fact: Wage increase is anemic. Average household income has dropped by 2.5%.
Fact: The only people who believe America is better now than a decade ago are a bunch of f-ags, lesbians, socialist liberal lazy pigs, social justice morons and do nothings that have a permanently extended hand for any government handout.
Careful. There is a good chance that you're going to get called "Stupid" and "Uneducated" and "you don't know anything" by the apologetic left on here and then have the other misguided lefties pile on.
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Fact: Gas at $2 (even in NJ) is still higher than when Bush was in office.
gas in 2016 is higher than it was in 2001? Who could have predicted something would go up in price in a span of only 15 years? madness.
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Months later and the same retards on this website are claiming that the country is better now than 8 years ago?
Where do you morons get your facts?
Fact: The National debt almost doubled under Obama. AND THAT IS AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR BUSH'S BAILOUT.
Fact: Gas at $2 (even in NJ) is still higher than when Bush was in office.
Fact: More people are on some form of government assistance now than 8 years ago.
Fact: The current failureinchief is the only president to never have a year of 3% GDP growth during his "presidency".
Fact: Labor participation rate is at an all-time low. It is now at 62.7%.
Fact: Anyone who believes that the UE rate is 5% is an idiot. The number you are fed doesn't take into account people who have given up looking for work. If they did, the UE rate would be double.
Fact: Wage increase is anemic. Average household income has dropped by 2.5%.
Fact: The only people who believe America is better now than a decade ago are a bunch of f-ags, lesbians, socialist liberal lazy pigs, social justice morons and do nothings that have a permanently extended hand for any government handout.
A dose of sanity. :)
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Careful. There is a good chance that you're going to get called "Stupid" and "Uneducated" and "you don't know anything" by the apologetic left on here and then have the other misguided lefties pile on.
No, that's just you.
Thanks for the shoutout though.
Why would you post things from another forum here, though? I thought that was against the rules of the board, but I digress.
Months later and the same retards on this website are claiming that the country is better now than 8 years ago?
Where do you morons get your facts?
Fact: The National debt almost doubled under Obama. AND THAT IS AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR BUSH'S BAILOUT. - Yes, this is a huge problem.
Fact: Gas at $2 (even in NJ) is still higher than when Bush was in office. - Not throughout his entire presidency. There were times it was higher. Plus it's 15 years later. I expect it to be higher. Just like car prices are higher.
Fact: More people are on some form of government assistance now than 8 years ago. - A huge issue.
Fact: The current failureinchief is the only president to never have a year of 3% GDP growth during his "presidency". - This may or may not be an issue. Some economists say this will be the new norm.
Fact: Labor participation rate is at an all-time low. It is now at 62.7%. - Definitely a problem.
Fact: Anyone who believes that the UE rate is 5% is an idiot. The number you are fed doesn't take into account people who have given up looking for work. If they did, the UE rate would be double. - The UE number has never been accurate, so why are we worried about accuracy with it now?
Fact: Wage increase is anemic. Average household income has dropped by 2.5%. - This may be true. It's not true in "my" case, but I do feel for those who have it worse than before. Maybe I'm just lucky.
Fact: The only people who believe America is better now than a decade ago are a bunch of f-ags, lesbians, socialist liberal lazy pigs, social justice morons and do nothings that have a permanently extended hand for any government handout. - Those are not bad things. They should have it better than they did before. We are a better society.
I don't agree that it equates to a failure as a President.
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Months later and the same retards on this website are claiming that the country is better now than 8 years ago?
Where do you morons get your facts?
Fact: The National debt almost doubled under Obama. AND THAT IS AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR BUSH'S BAILOUT.
Fact: Gas at $2 (even in NJ) is still higher than when Bush was in office.
Fact: More people are on some form of government assistance now than 8 years ago.
Fact: The current failureinchief is the only president to never have a year of 3% GDP growth during his "presidency".
Fact: Labor participation rate is at an all-time low. It is now at 62.7%.
Fact: Anyone who believes that the UE rate is 5% is an idiot. The number you are fed doesn't take into account people who have given up looking for work. If they did, the UE rate would be double.
Fact: Wage increase is anemic. Average household income has dropped by 2.5%.
Fact: The only people who believe America is better now than a decade ago are a bunch of f-ags, lesbians, socialist liberal lazy pigs, social justice morons and do nothings that have a permanently extended hand for any government handout.
your facts are wrong but why argue???.......while Obama is president you and others on here will never accept good news
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I don't agree that it equates to a failure as a President.
Hmmm. Well, if you believe his goal was to begin the process of bringing the USA's economy down to third world level by implementing an ever increasing deficit and passing a terrible health insurance program, then he is a smashing success.
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I can't just blame obama - the republicans vetoed zero of his spending bills/budgets, right? Boehnner colluded with obama/reid to undermine the new 2015 republican senate by giving obama 1.4 trillion before they ran out the door.
And just because our military is smaller doesn't mean it's weaker. Yes, we have fewer troops/weapons. But we can put a JDAM thru a car window in baghdad from a remote control in Tampa, and we do it all the time. This rallying cry "we need a bigger military" doesn't really mix with the need to reduce a 20 trillion dollar debt.
Do you believe Trump will completely erase the 20 trillion debt in 8 years - AS HE CLAIMED?
They're all to blame in all honesty, they're either incompetent or they are paid to not pass legislation, our military is weak and small. We can't even beat ISIS, the generals can't even do their job, Obama is on an apology tour literally bowing to Saudi kings....how can you not see his presidency is a disaster? By the way, I believe we can stop all the wasteful spending and make a nice dent in our debt.
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Hmmm. Well, if you believe his goal was to begin the process of bringing the USA's economy down to third world level by implementing an ever increasing deficit and passing a terrible health insurance program, then he is a smashing success.
I guess I can only look at myself. It sounds bad, but if people ask me is my life better than 4,8,12,16 years ago... I can only say that it is.
That's personally.
I mean, if your life is worse, I'm sorry... I wish it weren't the case, but we are where we are.
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I believe we can stop all the wasteful spending and make a nice dent in our debt.
Debt is 20 trillion now. Trump has predicted 1) we'll see a recession, then 2) he will COMPLETELY erase the us debt in only EIGHT YEARS.
Now, every top economist has called this insane, NOBODY says it's possible. Only trump. Do you feel he's wrong on this?
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They're all to blame in all honesty, they're either incompetent or they are paid to not pass legislation, our military is weak and small. We can't even beat ISIS, the generals can't even do their job, Obama is on an apology tour literally bowing to Saudi kings....how can you not see his presidency is a disaster? By the way, I believe we can stop all the wasteful spending and make a nice dent in our debt.
Not true...we are beating the HELL out of ISIS....but we are doing it without ground trops..thats why its taking so long....why should we be the army for the world????...as for being on a so-called "apology tour"...what are you talking about>???..Obama is just trying to mend fences a little bit with the Saudis who we still need unfortunately....
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Hmmm. Well, if you believe his goal was to begin the process of bringing the USA's economy down to third world level by implementing an ever increasing deficit and passing a terrible health insurance program, then he is a smashing success.
Your statement is really odd being that the U.S. economy is STILL the biggest, strongest and best in the world....Our economy contuinues to grow while in places like Russia, Brazil, and argentina (all of whom were booming a few years ago) the economy has actually shrunk......China's economic numbers are lies....the U.S. economy is much stronger and recovered MUCH BETTER than the European countries....
5% unemployment...Wall Street Booming...Oil and gas at a record low.....so why are you telling out and out lies?
STRANGE................
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Your statement is really odd being that the U.S. economy is STILL the biggest, strongest and best in the world....Our economy contuinues to grow while in places like Russia, Brazil, and argentina (all of whom were booming a few years ago) the economy has actually shrunk......China's economic numbers are lies....the U.S. economy is much stronger and recovered MUCH BETTER than the European countries....
5% unemployment...Wall Street Booming...Oil and gas at a record low.....so why are you telling out and out lies?
STRANGE................
Almost 48 hours later and the retard still has nothing. Must be googling his self loathing homosexual self silly.
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Almost 48 hours later and the retard still has nothing. Must be googling his self loathing homosexual self silly.
;D