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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: rufjunk on March 07, 2006, 06:19:36 PM
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The day baseball, football, and basketball championships have predetermined outcomes is the day bodybuilding becomes a sport. Luckily that isn't the case and competition is key, unfortunately with bodybuilding and the Mr. Olympia contest, money and marketability play a major role.
It's tough to be angry about a placing when we can all acknowledge politics and favoritism play some role in the outcome.
Bodybuilding is not a sport my friends.
Bodybuilding is entertainment, bodybuilding is show business.
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Yes, and bbers are not athletes.
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I'd also like to add that it's tough to dedicate your life to an event where weider sponsored athletes receive favoritism.
This is just the nature of the beast with the IFBB and it always will be unless you compete in a different federation.
That's why it's tough to dedicate your life to competing at an event where you can only do so much to effect the outcome. Bodybuilding is about more than improving your biceps, it's about pushing yourself to succeed and hard work, qualities that are transferable to other professions and endeavors.
I love bodybuilding but it is not a sport.
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yeah, it's a sport. we already figured it out.
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The day baseball, football, and basketball championships have predetermined outcomes is the day bodybuilding becomes a sport. Luckily that isn't the case and competition is key, unfortunately with bodybuilding and the Mr. Olympia contest, money and marketability play a major role.
It's tough to be angry about a placing when we can all acknowledge politics and favoritism play some role in the outcome.
Bodybuilding is not a sport my friends.
Bodybuilding is entertainment, bodybuilding is show business.
yes bob chick and others do a fabulous job doing the color commentary during the shows
but a bodybuilding contest is comparing muscles on a stage and thus not a sport
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I'd like to think it's a sport and it's fair game... it really is except in the Mr. Olympia contest maybe..
I'm not a fan of wrestling... and that is show business. Putting bodybuilding in that category makes me want to cringe, I just think something should be done where independent judges are used, possibly even branch off the Mr. Olympia so we know we're getting fair and accurate results.
I'm tired of seeing Shawn Ray and guys like Lee Priest kick ass and then get low placings.
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If bodybuilding is a sport then so is the Miss America pageant.
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how the hell is bodybuilding a sport?
Explain (Earl can stay away from this thread)
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If bodybuilding is a sport then so is the Miss America pageant.
They need roids to improve their performance..
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Darn, I thought I was going against the status quo with this one, looks like everyone agrees.
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Darn, I thought I was going against the status quo with this one, looks like everyone agrees.
No, just the guys that don't do well in bodybuilding... So thats about 99% agree with you..
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The day baseball, football, and basketball championships have predetermined outcomes is the day bodybuilding becomes a sport. Luckily that isn't the case and competition is key, unfortunately with bodybuilding and the Mr. Olympia contest, money and marketability play a major role.
It's tough to be angry about a placing when we can all acknowledge politics and favoritism play some role in the outcome.
Bodybuilding is not a sport my friends.
Bodybuilding is entertainment, bodybuilding is show business.
Yeah, money and marketability normally have no place in "sports" ::)
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Bodybuilding is not a sport.
Hope this helps, Earl.
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If bodybuilding is a sport then so is the Miss America pageant.
truer words have never been spoken...
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The day baseball, football, and basketball championships have predetermined outcomes is the day bodybuilding becomes a sport.
In case you haven't noticed the Olympia has been "predetermined" for the last 14 years. But it NEVER has been and NEVER will be a sport and bodybuilder ARE NOT athletes!
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I've posted my links numerous times
none of you have posted anything other than your opinions
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theres a story with shoeless joe and the thirteen about the baseball game that was fixed. football games have been fixed. more games than anyone will ever know have been fixed. boxing anyone. ali's phantom punch is still in question.
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Bodybuilding is a circus
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OH NO NOT AGAIN!
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For drug trades
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To me... the Mr. Olympia contest run by Joe Weider is like having the Super Bowl run by Dan Rooney (The owner of the Pittsburgh steelers). How can someone with such an influence be in charge of the biggest contest in the sport? That almost seems like it's a joke, shouldn't it be common sense that this isn't right?!?!?
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The olympics and football games might have favored winners, there's a difference between that and examples of the 1980 Mr. Olympia where Arnold was obviously off but they gave him the Mr. O anyway.
When's the last time you say Peyton Manning throw 5 INT's at Foxboro only to have the referrees stop the game with 2 minutes left and give the Colts 20 extra points.
It just sucks... how can marketability and money ruin a competitive sport thats all about competing. Everyone should be given a fair chance...
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When Espn starts doing daily reports on shows around the country it will then become a sport. They don't even mention who wins major shows.
It isn't even a real competition. The results are more or less pre-determined. Hell ESPN will showPoker, Darts, Horseshoes, andother very minor sports and competitions even bass fishing but they won't show BB. That has totell you something. And I have never noticed but at the Olympia is there odds in the Sportbooks on the contest.
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When Espn starts doing daily reports on shows around the country it will then become a sport. They don't even mention who wins major shows.
It isn't even a real competition. The results are more or less pre-determined. Hell ESPN will showPoker, Darts, Horseshoes, andother very minor sports and competitions even bass fishing but they won't show BB. That has totell you something. And I have never noticed but at the Olympia is there odds in the Sportbooks on the contest.
no, never has and never will.
it's not a recognized game of chance.
and that's becaused it's fixed and not a sport.
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When Espn starts doing daily reports on shows around the country it will then become a sport. They don't even mention who wins major shows.
It isn't even a real competition. The results are more or less pre-determined. Hell ESPN will showPoker, Darts, Horseshoes, andother very minor sports and competitions even bass fishing but they won't show BB. That has totell you something. And I have never noticed but at the Olympia is there odds in the Sportbooks on the contest.
they don't mention it because nobody other than the guys that post on bodybuilding forums care
notice how the NFL gets more coverage on ESPN than the NHL?
it's because more people care about the NFL
bodybuilding is a cult sport
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if eating 43 hotdogs is a sport then certainly bodybuilding, marathon fucking, and frisbee is a sport. lol
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"Bodybuilding is the greatest sport in the world" -Arnold Schwarzenegger
Anybody who doesn't think so is a fagot and should go follow ice curling.
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get em alexxx. get em!
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if eating 43 hotdogs is a sport then certainly bodybuilding, marathon fucking, and frisbee is a sport. lol
Is catching frogs for snakes a sport? I could be a world champion.
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"Bodybuilding is the greatest sport in the world" -Arnold Schwarzenegger
Anybody who doesn't think so is a fagot and should go follow ice curling.
Well....if Arnie said it, it MUST be a sport ::)!
And as much as I hate to admit it...curling is a sport because it takes skill!
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If bodybuilding is a sport then so is the Miss America pageant.
I didn't know Miss America contestants go through a grueling weight training and dieting program.
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Bodybuilding is not a sport? I thought posing in an almost thong while your dripping with oil was some kind of sport. Seriously the sport of bodybuilding takes place in the gym. I only consider it a sport if it's done with out drugs. I have never seen a boxer, wrestler, Olympic weight lifter, martial artists; football player;sprinter; or any other athlete that can stand on the Olympia stage. The physiques of the prior listed athletes are fantastic and functional. They don't have the cosmetic steroid look. Some might counter and say what about Mike Katz, he played for the Jets. I have no argument but he didn't have the physique he had in the Universe contest when he was playing football.
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Bodybuilding is not a sport? I thought posing in an almost thong while your dripping with oil was some kind of sport. Seriously the sport of bodybuilding takes place in the gym. I only consider it a sport if it's done with out drugs. I have never seen a boxer, wrestler, Olympic weight lifter, martial artists; football player;sprinter; or any other athlete that can stand on the Olympia stage. The physiques of the prior listed athletes are fantastic and functional. They don't have the cosmetic steroid look. Some might counter and say what about Mike Katz, he played for the Jets. I have no argument but he didn't have the physique he had in the Universe contest when he was playing football.
So you're saying people don't use roids in these sports you listed?
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The way I look at it, if you need roids to do better at it, then it's a sport. ;) If not, then it's not a sport. There I said it, it had to be said!
hahaha you make a good point!
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PS. Roids were invented by Hitler for his athletes in the Olympics..
What a crock of shit.
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What a crock of shit.
Better read up on Hitler!
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PS. Roids were invented by Hitler for his athletes in the Olympics..
They weren't "invented" by Hitler for the Olympics. They were used to make his military more agressive during the war!
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I bet you also think Hitler is hiding out at a secret base in Antarctica. What a clown.
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They weren't "invented" by Hitler for the Olympics. They were used to make his military more agressive during the war!
Why do you think they were so angry
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PS. Roids were invented by Hitler for his athletes in the Olympics..
i'm not sure about Hitler inventing roids, but thank god Al Gore invented the internet otherwise this great board wouldn't exist.
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but thank god Al Gore invented the internet otherwise this great board wouldn't exist.
LOL Hahahaha!
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I bet you also think Hitler is hiding out at a secret base in Antarctica. What a clown.
It's a fact.
Read the intro. I'm sure there's more but I ran out of time....http://www.medstudents.com.br/sport/sport2.htm
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i'm not sure about Hitler inventing roids, but thank god Al Gore invented the internet otherwise this great board wouldn't exist.
Mama said, Al Gore is the devil
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I didn't know Miss America contestants go through a grueling weight training and dieting program.
Actually to be become Miss America is just as hard. You can compete once a year and qualify to compete in the Olympia. Miss America has to WIN (not 2nd or 3rd) several contests before being in the Miss America contest. And do you think they eat pizza and ice cream all day. Of course they diet. And most of them run do cardio and weight train at least a little. My good friend won Miss America in 92 or 93 and she had a helluva time getting there. My mom secretary for awhilke was Shawn Wetherly who I think was a Miss Universe or something like that I was young but I do remember my mom helping her allot with things she needed to compete like entrie fees, clothing, hair dressers, makeup artist etc.
There no way in the world I can put down any pro of even any amateur BB for the way have to train and diet. I went through the lifting part which I could handle but couldn't last even a year dieting strictly. So I give props to BB's for the diet and training aspect of BB, But after that they don't impress me with much. No business sense, abuse of drugs lazy with self promotion, they are basically lazy out of the gym. Not many care about there image. Too bad. But when it comes to the actual similarities between BB and a beauty pagent they are very much alike.
BB is not a sport as competing in the Miss America is not a sport. It is a show to exhibit they way you decide to live your life. Actually beauty pagents usually have a skill round which probably makes it more of a sport than BB. It at least shows a skill or physical ability the contestant has. There is nothing in BB. Posing is like something you have to do to show your muscles off in the best possible manner. It could at the most be compared to dancing.
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Funny how there is absolutely no scientific and/or historical evidence to support any of your claims, Intenseone. Steroids don't cause aggression, and they weren't used until the late 1950's at the earliest.
I guess bodybuilders will believe anything if enough magazines and websites reprint it as truth. Nazis using steroids during the war is no different than myostatin inhibitors and other such unsubstantiated bullshit.
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But onlyme, you're missing the point. They don't do better if they use roids, they do worse! So we can't say Miss America is a sport. ;)
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Funny how there is absolutely no scientific and/or historical evidence to support any of your claims, Intenseone. Steroids don't cause aggression, and they weren't used until the late 1950's at the earliest.
I guess bodybuilders will believe anything if enough magazines and websites reprint it as truth. Nazis using steroids during the war is no different than myostatin inhibitors and other such unsubstantiated bullshit.
Like I said, read up on Hitler. You'll be surprised..
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Why do you think they were so angry
HAHA, I guess those angry Japs were juiced to the gills too?
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Funny how there is absolutely no scientific and/or historical evidence to support any of your claims, Intenseone. Steroids don't cause aggression, and they weren't used until the late 1950's at the earliest.
I guess bodybuilders will believe anything if enough magazines and websites reprint it as truth. Nazis using steroids during the war is no different than myostatin inhibitors and other such unsubstantiated bullshit.
Steriods don't cause aggression?? Damn near any androgen will cause aggression.....NEWSFLASH ...it isn't a secret!
BTW, steriods were used during the 30's. Just because it wasn't used for bodybuilding does not mean they weren't used!
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We Russians came up with steroids I believe. Thats one of the reasons why we where kicking so much ass back then.
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Germans were the ones. Why do you think Arnold had a jump on everybody?
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so your saying steroids made Arnold, I gotcha.
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Just kidding, he didn't use it..
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hahaha thats why he's my hero!
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if bodybuilding is a sport then moses parted the sea
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if bodybuilding is a sport then moses parted the sea
ummm where have you been the last 5000 years?
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They weren't "invented" by Hitler for the Olympics. They were used to make his military more agressive during the war!
correct
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bump
hi
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The day baseball, football, and basketball championships have predetermined outcomes is the day bodybuilding becomes a sport. Luckily that isn't the case and competition is key, unfortunately with bodybuilding and the Mr. Olympia contest, money and marketability play a major role.
It's tough to be angry about a placing when we can all acknowledge politics and favoritism play some role in the outcome.
Bodybuilding is not a sport my friends.
Bodybuilding is entertainment, bodybuilding is show business.
QFT