Does anyone REALLY care if you are natural or not?

[Croatch]

Great post!

Most people here have no idea how many positive effects AAS have on the body. they just focus on the negative sides that are not even that common, i used for years and the only sides i had were back hair growth and elevated BP that went back to perfectly normal after i came off.

Steroids=Vitamins

Thanks for clearing that one up.

[beard]

i never understood people take moderate amounts of gear. do it good or dont do it.

To do it good for me is to do it moderate. Why is that hard for you to understand? You get better gains than naturally and you don't get the sides. It's a wise choice if you aren't aiming for going pro.

And what do you mean by do it good? Do you mean that you should take insulin 30iu, 20 iu GH, 3g testo/day, thyroids, cytadren, liverpills ans so on ... or not do it at all? I think you need to think again. You are putting much strain on the body with massive dosages. Why not do it moderate, get good gains, and not risk you health?

[El Diablo Blanco]

She doesn't

[phish]

Of course, in the end, it's how you feel about your own gains.  I can't see jamming myself with a needle or popping a ton of pills as "accomplishing" something with my physique.  When anyone can do it, it's nothing great.

thats the beuty of it anyone can do it, but anyone cant look like ronnie coleman. just cuz your natural dont think if you took drugs you will explode it all comes down to drug response. there are a ton of gym rats taking over 2grams of combined anabolics and still cant bench 405. keven levrone is prime example sum peoples bodys just respond to drugs and sum dont. its anoyin hearing naturals  sing the same song if they used drugs they be huge 2.

[beard]

thats the beuty of it anyone can do it, but anyone cant look like ronnie coleman. just cuz your natural dont think if you took drugs you will explode it all comes down to drug response. there are a ton of gym rats taking over 2grams of combined anabolics and still cant bench 405. keven levrone is prime example sum peoples bodys just respond to drugs and sum dont. its anoyin hearing naturals  sing the same song if they used drugs they be huge 2.

Know what you mean phish. Got one of those friends who thinks he would be enormous if he took roids. Of course I believed so too before I tried it. I just wish he would do a cycle and see what it's about.

[hazbin]

thats the beuty of it anyone can do it, but anyone cant look like ronnie coleman. just cuz your natural dont think if you took drugs you will explode it all comes down to drug response. there are a ton of gym rats taking over 2grams of combined anabolics and still cant bench 405. keven levrone is prime example sum peoples bodys just respond to drugs and sum dont. its anoyin hearing naturals  sing the same song if they used drugs they be huge 2.

no, every natural would be bigger than Ronnie Coleman if they popped a couple dbol - just ask them.

[DK II]

50 is not enough on a prop Only cycle

ok, you have me here.

[spinnis]

ok, you have me here.

especially while pinning eOd not ed..

[DK II]

especially while pinning eOd not ed..

lol, so 50mg ed would be fine?

i think on adding 50mg tren ace eod.

[TacoBell]

You're wrong on this one.
If you don't like drugs, find another sport.  More like, unless you're a pro bb and earn money from the thousands you spend on a cycle, you're a clown.
Most people can't make good gains without drugs, this is what makes real bodybuilding great.
It's such a sorry cop out view here.
"Nobody can do it without drugs."
hahah, no, you can't.

Sorry Croatch but you're off.  
And I say this as not a personal attack cause I do think you have built yourself a solid physique but....
You will never look like Hazbin or myself naturally.  Never ever.
And some guys would never be satisfied looking like you.  Do you look muscular? Yes.  But your picture on the wiki page for bodybuilder would be as laughable as Adonis'. The term bodybuilder infers large muscles.  Your need to clarify bodybuilder with the word 'natural' is your way of explaining why u dont look like the word 'bodybuilder'.  

[spinnis]

lol, so 50mg ed would be fine?

i think on adding 50mg tren ace eod.

50md ed would be doable.
because 100mg eod is.. =)


Isn't tren a bitch in the summer though?

[MAXX]

50md ed would be doable.
because 100mg eod is.. =)


Isn't tren a bitch in the summer though?

you seem to have an aweful lot of experience with steroids for someone who claims to be lifetime natural...

[spinnis]

you seem to have an aweful lot of experience with steroids for someone who claims to be lifetime natural...

I know a alot about training and aas. Because it interests me.

Dont really have any use of it on GB though 

[DK II]

50md ed would be doable.
because 100mg eod is.. =)


Isn't tren a bitch in the summer though?

i see, you did your math.

How about 30mg dianabol ed with that? Just for the fun.

[CalvinH]

I know who care's.people that juice but don't look like it.

[spinnis]

i see, you did your math.

How about 30mg dianabol ed with that? Just for the fun.

because u usually do short bursts on Prop like 6-8 weeks, Dbol should work great during the entire cycle, and at 30mg ed the sideeffects should be Minimal. And still provide good gains.


But ask an american and he would say 300mg ED of Prop and 400mg ed of Dbol 

[DK II]

because u usually do short bursts on Prop like 6-8 weeks, Dbol should work great during the entire cycle, and at 30mg ed the sideeffects should be Minimal. And still provide good gains.

so that will be my beginner's cycle.

50 mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace eod, 30mg d-bol ed.

[spinnis]

so that will be my beginner's cycle.

50 mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace eod, 30mg d-bol ed.

First cycle?

I would say not combine a bunch of prep, Because It can be usefull later on to know how you react to them induvidually..

Prop 50mg ed with 30mg dbol would be a great beginner cycle IMO.
Exactly what Im planning on doing but 100mg eod..

[beard]

so that will be my beginner's cycle.

50 mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace eod, 30mg d-bol ed.

Your beginner cycle? You did that 5 years ago MonkeyBoy!

[beard]

I know a alot about training and aas. Because it interests me.

Dont really have any use of it on GB though 

You are full of it ...

[spinnis]

You are full of it ...

Know ALOT about training.
Have common knowledge about aas.

[DK II]

First cycle?

I would say not combine a bunch of prep, Because It can be usefull later on to know how you react to them induvidually..

Prop 50mg ed with 30mg dbol would be a great beginner cycle IMO.
Exactly what Im planning on doing but 100mg eod..

ok, i'll leave the tren.

Your beginner cycle? You did that 5 years ago MonkeyBoy!

how come i didn't even know it, but you do?

[spinnis]

ok, i'll leave the tren.

how come i didn't even know it, but you do?

sounds good.

When you start?

what are you doing for pct?

Im thinking Clomid 100mg for 2 days then 50mg a few weeks and pray to GOD that I dont get a bunch of acne.
Im gonna run 20mg of accutane e4d though.

[Croatch]

Sorry Croatch but you're off.  
And I say this as not a personal attack cause I do think you have built yourself a solid physique but....
You will never look like Hazbin or myself naturally.  Never ever.
And some guys would never be satisfied looking like you.  Do you look muscular? Yes.  But your picture on the wiki page for bodybuilder would be as laughable as Adonis'. The term bodybuilder infers large muscles.  Your need to clarify bodybuilder with the word 'natural' is your way of explaining why u dont look like the word 'bodybuilder'.  

No, but one day I aspire to look like you guys naturally.
Another day on getbig.

[DK II]

sounds good.

When you start?

what are you doing for pct?

Im thinking Clomid 100mg for 2 days then 50mg a few weeks and pray to GOD that I dont get a bunch of acne.
Im gonna run 20mg of accutane e4d though.

2030 or 2040, depends on how i feel in 2030.