German in Venice out of business

[falco]

[tommywishbone]

He trained at Golds Gym Venice all those years I worked there. Good dude. Hard worker.

[deadz]

He trained at Golds Gym Venice all those years I worked there. Good dude. Hard worker.

Looks like he never touched a weight but instead pounds junk food.

[Rambone]

A powerlifter build for sure

[tommywishbone]

Looks like he never touched a weight but instead pounds junk food.

 

Valid observation. He was in the gym all the time. In the 1990’s he was in OK shape.  Never a competitive bodybuilding but he had some muscle.

[dj181]

He trained at Golds Gym Venice all those years I worked there. Good dude. Hard worker.

you're a respected vet with real life experince so maybe you can clear up the confusion

it is possible that Zane only took 100 mgs primo and 15 mgs dbol and that Platz only took 100 mgs deca and 20 winny and that Mentzer only took 200 deca every 10 days and 25 dbol during thier competition days?

that's like 200 mgs total anabolic weekly load for Zane and Platz and 300 mgs for Mentzer

[tommywishbone]

you're a respected vet with real life experince so maybe you can clear up the confusion

it is possible that Zane only took 100 mgs primo and 15 mgs dbol and that Platz only took 100 mgs deca and 20 winny and that Mentzer only took 200 deca every 10 days and 25 dbol during thier competition days?

that's like 200 mgs total anabolic weekly load for Zane and Platz and 300 mgs for Mentzer

Appreciate the nice words my friend.


While I have met all three of those bodybuilders. I knew Mike the best…

I was not in the mix at Golds Venice during the peak of those bodybuilders career. My best guess?


Zane- actually that’s possibly not too far from accurate. Real gear back then was SO GOOD it’s almost as if it’s an entirely different drug. Zane was never huge. He was never that strong. He was never known for eating bodybuilder huge meals.


Platz- he was so extreme with his training and prep I can not imagine he wouldn’t be just as extreme with his gear usage. He was clearly a responder and everything he took came out of a pharmacy… but those low dosages he claims seem highly unlikely.


Mentzer-  he was a phenomenal responder. Had great focus aka that mind/muscle connection. He PED dosages? Brother I’ve heard “almost nothing” and I’ve heard “all the Dianabol he could get his hands on.” What’s the truth? I’m afraid that truth is lost to time. I wish I had the answer for you.

[Marty Champions]

german in venice is a schmoe , kiss ass, overall loser

[Humble Narcissist]

Appreciate the nice words my friend.


While I have met all three of those bodybuilders. I knew Mike the best…

I was not in the mix at Golds Venice during the peak of those bodybuilders career. My best guess?


Zane- actually that’s possibly not too far from accurate. Real gear back then was SO GOOD it’s almost as if it’s an entirely different drug. Zane was never huge. He was never that strong. He was never known for eating bodybuilder huge meals.


Platz- he was so extreme with his training and prep I can not imagine he wouldn’t be just as extreme with his gear usage. He was clearly a responder and everything he took came out of a pharmacy… but those low dosages he claims seem highly unlikely.


Mentzer-  he was a phenomenal responder. Had great focus aka that mind/muscle connection. He PED dosages? Brother I’ve heard “almost nothing” and I’ve heard “all the Dianabol he could get his hands on.” What’s the truth? I’m afraid that truth is lost to time. I wish I had the answer for you.

Did Grymko workout there as well? If so, I'm guessing others would follow his lead with drug stacks.

[20inch calves]

They used real pharmaceutical gear. I knew 2 national level guys that were on the opposite end of the spectrum with use. First guy every time he didn't win would up the dose. He was in the 4 gram range, insulin ,,gh and didn't look much better for it. The other used test, masteron,,deca at times. He went up to 1 gram test at times,,,but only dieted on tren. He did 78mg of tren every day for 8 weeks to a show...that was it and he looked great. Neither turned pro but it gave showed me how differently ppl responded. Point is some guys can definitely get by with less

[oldtimer1]

Appreciate the nice words my friend.


While I have met all three of those bodybuilders. I knew Mike the best…

I was not in the mix at Golds Venice during the peak of those bodybuilders career. My best guess?


Zane- actually that’s possibly not too far from accurate. Real gear back then was SO GOOD it’s almost as if it’s an entirely different drug. Zane was never huge. He was never that strong. He was never known for eating bodybuilder huge meals.


Platz- he was so extreme with his training and prep I can not imagine he wouldn’t be just as extreme with his gear usage. He was clearly a responder and everything he took came out of a pharmacy… but those low dosages he claims seem highly unlikely.


Mentzer-  he was a phenomenal responder. Had great focus aka that mind/muscle connection. He PED dosages? Brother I’ve heard “almost nothing” and I’ve heard “all the Dianabol he could get his hands on.” What’s the truth? I’m afraid that truth is lost to time. I wish I had the answer for you.

You said Zane wasn't that strong. Can you give an example of the moderate weights he used?  Wish I could have been in that gym to observe the champs training. I just have to hear it from eye witnesses.

[dj181]

Appreciate the nice words my friend.


While I have met all three of those bodybuilders. I knew Mike the best…

I was not in the mix at Golds Venice during the peak of those bodybuilders career. My best guess?


Zane- actually that’s possibly not too far from accurate. Real gear back then was SO GOOD it’s almost as if it’s an entirely different drug. Zane was never huge. He was never that strong. He was never known for eating bodybuilder huge meals.


Platz- he was so extreme with his training and prep I can not imagine he wouldn’t be just as extreme with his gear usage. He was clearly a responder and everything he took came out of a pharmacy… but those low dosages he claims seem highly unlikely.


Mentzer-  he was a phenomenal responder. Had great focus aka that mind/muscle connection. He PED dosages? Brother I’ve heard “almost nothing” and I’ve heard “all the Dianabol he could get his hands on.” What’s the truth? I’m afraid that truth is lost to time. I wish I had the answer for you.

thanks for the reply bro, appreciate that

yeah i think Zane always kept his cals round 2-3 grand

and i also think his stack is near right

[dj181]

They used real pharmaceutical gear. I knew 2 national level guys that were on the opposite end of the spectrum with use. First guy every time he didn't win would up the dose. He was in the 4 gram range, insulin ,,gh and didn't look much better for it. The other used test, masteron,,deca at times. He went up to 1 gram test at times,,,but only dieted on tren. He did 78mg of tren every day for 8 weeks to a show...that was it and he looked great. Neither turned pro but it gave showed me how differently ppl responded. Point is some guys can definitely get by with less

yeah i' sure that correct

i'm planning to be the biggest/leanest i've ever been on low dose

i've been 175-180 which is my goal weight but i was 12-14% fat

plan is to be that weight @ 5-6% fat

[falco]

yeah i' sure that correct

i'm planning to be the biggest/leanest i've ever been on low dose

i've been 175-180 which is my goal weight but i was 12-14% fat

plan is to be that weight @ 5-6% fat

You are going to become HUGE!!

[dj181]

You are going to become HUGE!!

 

i will look very impressive/aesthetic at that wieght with a legit 28-29 inch wasit

wheeler and dildo heath both claimed 29 inch waists but they are either incredibly delusional or just sociopathic liars as didlo's was 36+ same with flex's

but 93 flex most likely did have a 31-32 incher

King Zane''s was indeed 28-28, paul-jean guillemes as well, nubret's was 29-30 i'd say

[dj181]

You are going to become HUGE!!

One word:

Aesthetics.

Aesthetics is about having “the look”.

Having the look means having the right amount of muscle in the right spots.

Frank Zane created symmetry and balance rather than sheer muscle mass.

[tommywishbone]

Did Grymko workout there as well? If so, I'm guessing others would follow his lead with drug stacks.

Pete never trained crazy hard at the 3rd location of Golds Gym. When the gym moved to 360 Hampton in Venice, Pete was one of the owners.  He did workout there but he had stopped competing.

His PED usage is validated by many… he took a shit load of everything!

[illuminati]

Pete never trained crazy hard at the 3rd location of Golds Gym. When the gym moved to 360 Hampton in Venice, Pete was one of the owners.  He did workout there but he had stopped competing.

His PED usage is validated by many… he took a shit load of everything!

No doubt,  can't remember what year the pics were of only at that time he was huge I'd guess in the
245/ 55 lbs range possibly heavier.

[Humble Narcissist]

Pete never trained crazy hard at the 3rd location of Golds Gym. When the gym moved to 360 Hampton in Venice, Pete was one of the owners.  He did workout there but he had stopped competing.

His PED usage is validated by many… he took a shit load of everything!

I know he used a lot. Right before a contest he had an IV of some drug compound going in him at the hotel room. He had the belief that taking time off from the drugs was unhealthy.

[Gym Rat]

You said Zane wasn't that strong. Can you give an example of the moderate weights he used?  Wish I could have been in that gym to observe the champs training. I just have to hear it from eye witnesses.

Frank Powerlifted early on, and I remember his numbers being decent. But he changed early on as well, and didn't train real heavy.
His goals changed and he trained accordingly.
I remember reading his PL numbers in an old Ironman and they were (I believe) 425 SQ, 285 Bench, 425 DL weighing 175.

Of course many of the guys in those days Powerlifted early on (Arnold, Franco, etc)..