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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/26/florida-man-kills-door-to-door-salesman-i%E2%80%99ll-kill-anybody-that-steps-on-my-property/
A man in Cape Coral, Florida on Wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.
Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old Nicholas Rainey.
A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop’s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.
Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head “for effect” and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.
“I’m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,” he told police. “I was in fear.”
An off-duty Collier County sheriff’s deputy was nearby and heard the gunshots. When she arrived at Roop’s property, she found Rainey dying on the ground while Roop was in his garage reloading his handgun.
“He was telling the officer, ‘he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property,’ somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,” one witness told the The News-Press. “She never flinched. She deserves a medal. I don’t think he was done [shooting].”
The deputy ordered Roop to drop his weapon and held him at gunpoint until police officers arrived.
Roop’s neighbors described him as “the neighborhood crazy.” Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.
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So now the NRA is responsible for every murderer?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/26/florida-man-kills-door-to-door-salesman-i%E2%80%99ll-kill-anybody-that-steps-on-my-property/
A man in Cape Coral, Florida on Wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.
Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old Nicholas Rainey.
A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop’s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.
Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head “for effect” and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.
“I’m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,” he told police. “I was in fear.”
An off-duty Collier County sheriff’s deputy was nearby and heard the gunshots. When she arrived at Roop’s property, she found Rainey dying on the ground while Roop was in his garage reloading his handgun.
“He was telling the officer, ‘he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property,’ somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,” one witness told the The News-Press. “She never flinched. She deserves a medal. I don’t think he was done [shooting].”
The deputy ordered Roop to drop his weapon and held him at gunpoint until police officers arrived.
Roop’s neighbors described him as “the neighborhood crazy.” Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.
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So now the NRA is responsible for every murderer?
Yes. To libtards like the resident idiot, blacken, all gun owners are murderers and the NRA is responsible. He probably believes that only Republicans carry guns and that they are still responsible for the sad state of the economy.
Stay tuned for more of blacken's moronic posts.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/26/florida-man-kills-door-to-door-salesman-i%E2%80%99ll-kill-anybody-that-steps-on-my-property/
A man in Cape Coral, Florida on Wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.
Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old Nicholas Rainey.
A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop’s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.
Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head “for effect” and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.
“I’m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,” he told police. “I was in fear.”
An off-duty Collier County sheriff’s deputy was nearby and heard the gunshots. When she arrived at Roop’s property, she found Rainey dying on the ground while Roop was in his garage reloading his handgun.
“He was telling the officer, ‘he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property,’ somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,” one witness told the The News-Press. “She never flinched. She deserves a medal. I don’t think he was done [shooting].”
The deputy ordered Roop to drop his weapon and held him at gunpoint until police officers arrived.
Roop’s neighbors described him as “the neighborhood crazy.” Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.
333... identity revealed.
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Yes. To libtards like the resident idiot, blacken, all gun owners are murderers and the NRA is responsible. He probably believes that only Republicans carry guns and that they are still responsible for the sad state of the economy.
Stay tuned for more of blacken's moronic posts.
talking snakes, 6000 year old earth,hahahahahahahaha who's the retard,four more years of crying,then another 8 with clinton :D :D :D :D
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talking snakes, 6000 year old earth,hahahahahahahaha who's the retard,four more years of crying,then another 8 with clinton :D :D :D :D
So how does all that gibberish that you posted excuse you from being a retard who still kisses Obama's nutsack?
Explain.
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So how does all that gibberish that you posted excuses you from being a retard who still kisses Obama's nutsack?
Explain.
Do you believe in talking snakes and trees with magic fruit?
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Do you believe in talking snakes and trees with magic fruit?
Do you believe in the "big bang theory" and that all life came from single cell organisms?
And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
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Do you believe in the "big bang theory" and that all life came from single cell organisms?
And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
I think people should have free will and the 2nd amendment should be honoured.
Do you believe in a talking snake and tree with magic fruit?
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333... identity revealed.
I'm not a violent person.
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I think people should have free will and the 2nd amendment should be honoured.
Do you believe in a talking snake and tree with magic fruit?
you know he does,hahahaahah he can't even admit what he believes priceless
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I'm not a violent person.
But indeed you are just look at your posts.
You just cant walk the walk, so you talk instead.
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you know he does,hahahaahah he can't even admit what he believes priceless
Oh definitely. Most Christians, when confronted with a simple question such as this, runs away because even they cannot defend such idiotic beliefs. Well, a pure born moron such as Coach can, but Dario seems to be an intelligent person and I truly hope he can look past his limited mental upbringing and question his belief system and truly figure one thing for himself;
Talking snakes and magic fruit don't actually exist.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/26/florida-man-kills-door-to-door-salesman-i%E2%80%99ll-kill-anybody-that-steps-on-my-property/
A man in Cape Coral, Florida on Wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.
Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old Nicholas Rainey.
A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop’s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.
Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head “for effect” and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.
“I’m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,” he told police. “I was in fear.”
An off-duty Collier County sheriff’s deputy was nearby and heard the gunshots. When she arrived at Roop’s property, she found Rainey dying on the ground while Roop was in his garage reloading his handgun.
“He was telling the officer, ‘he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property,’ somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,” one witness told the The News-Press. “She never flinched. She deserves a medal. I don’t think he was done [shooting].”
The deputy ordered Roop to drop his weapon and held him at gunpoint until police officers arrived.
Roop’s neighbors described him as “the neighborhood crazy.” Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.
Wow... that's just insane.
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Do you believe in the "big bang theory" and that all life came from single cell organisms?
And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
you seem to have a poor understanding of the theories of evolution and the big bang. Neither claim to be the origin of things. Now, do you believe in talking snakes and magic fruit?
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Do you believe in a talking snake and tree with magic fruit?
Yes I do.
And so does Obama.
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you know he does,hahahaahah he can't even admit what he believes priceless
I am not you.
I am not a coward like you.
You are too much of a coward to admit your "messiah" is a failure. Getting 4 more years doesn't change that, it just means you and the other 52% in this country are morons.
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you seem to have a poor understanding of the theories of evolution and the big bang. Neither claim to be the origin of things. Now, do you believe in talking snakes and magic fruit?
Really?
What is the big bang theory? And is there more evidence of it than existence of God?
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If I am nut job for believing in something I never saw, then what should I call all of you who have evidence before your very eyes that Obama is a failure yet you voted for him again, you still believe in him and continue to support him.
Yeah. I think retards would be the perfect word.
Pssss, Obama says he is a CHRISTIAN.
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Really?
What is the big bang theory? And is there more evidence of it than existence of God?
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HAHAHAHAA!!!
So no evidence to support these man made theories.
When I was in High School for a theory to become a law, scientists needed to have irrefutable proof. NOW, that has been done away with. These are still "theories". By man who can't recognize that the complexity of cells and everything we see around us could never have been the product of evolution or pure coincidence.
Again, if I am a fool for believing in God, then what can we call you people who claim to be intelligent in your own opinion but continue to believe and support the worst president ever?
Back at you. You poor, blinded soul:
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Yes I do.
And so does Obama.
So you believe god wanted Obama to be reelected? ;D
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So you believe god wanted Obama to be reelected? ;D
I don't know how you got to that conclusion from my last post.
I am a nutjob, according to you, for believing in talking snake, yet you support a similar nutjob who is in the White House. HEHEHEHEH!! Went right over your head. Didn't it.
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Can any of you atheist, evolution believers help Mr. Dawkins here. Because the fact is, if there is no one has ever seen an evolutionary process that has ever increased the information in the genome, then evolution is a lie or not what you believe it to be.
Ah, and the answer can't be it takes millions of years. Since you claim the earth is hundreds of millions of years old, such evolutionary process would have been seen by now. So, come up with something or keep your little theories to yourself.
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i believe in science you believe in talking snakes, 6000 year old earth
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Craig dropping the bomb on all of you!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
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i believe in science you believe in talking snakes, 6000 year old earth
you believe in Obama - enough said
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i believe in science you believe in talking snakes, 6000 year old earth
How do you deduce that a talking snake and some people estimating a 6k year old earth means there is no God?
God is Omnipotent. I am sure you amuse your little self with parrots and dogs that can repeat phrases and words, but find it hard to believe that God can allow a mule to speak.
Nothing is IMPOSSIBLE for an Omnipotent God. That is what makes him GOD that he can do things your little mind can't comprehend. You are not in his level. Your simply dust.
Now back to YOUR SCIENCE. Answer the question in the video below and the debate will be over FOR EVER!!!
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i believe in science you believe in talking snakes, 6000 year old earth
Craig disposing of your "belief":
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so do you believe, in talking snakes,all the animals in the world on one boat,6000 year old earth it;s a yes or no question
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so do you believe, in talking snakes,all the animals in the world on one boat,6000 year old earth it;s a yes or no question
as opposed to obama? I would believe a drunken homeless aids riddled bum sloshing around in piss and shit over obama ay day
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This will be my last post on any religious topic on this board. This is supposed to be a politics board, not a religious board.
My last religious comment here is this:
God exists.
Anyone who supports Obama is definitely more stupid than any Christian. Period.
Case closed.
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oh and forgot that it took 120 years to build the ark and noah was 500 years old,sounds reasonable :D :D :D :D
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oh and forgot that it took 120 years to build the ark and noah was 500 years old,sounds reasonable :D :D :D :D
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323374504578217720567917856.html#articleTabs%3Dcomments
And you believed in O-SHITHEADCARE
Look how that worked out
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but you won't say you believe in the stories ooooooookkkkkkk :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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God exists.
Please provide a concrete definition for "God" that allows us to verify that it does, indeed, exist. Surely since "God" exists that shouldn't be too difficult.
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Please provide a concrete definition for "God" that allows us to verify that it does, indeed, exist. Surely since "God" exists that shouldn't be too difficult.
I'm goin out on a limb here so if I'm wrong please correct me, I'm assuming you don't believe God exists.
If so please provide a concrete definition of God so we can verify if he doesn't exist
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I'm goin out on a limb here so if I'm wrong please correct me, I'm assuming you don't believe God exists.
I don't.
If so please provide a concrete definition of God so we can verify if he doesn't exist
Think about this for a second: how can I define something that doesn't exist? What characteristics of non-existence do you believe are definable and testable?
But even if you think that it's possible to do the above, why should I provide any definition for something I don't believe in. If someone believed in God supposedly they know what it is they believe in and can diatinguish their God from, say, a cloaca from a dead chicken. In order to do that, they must be able to provide some definition.
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avxo asserting god does exist - LOL - and on what grounds is this assertion made? what piece of scientific evidence proves god does not exist ? ;D
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avxo asserting god does exist - LOL - and on what grounds is this assertion made? what piece of scientific evidence proves god does not exist ? ;D
I normally don't answer trolls, but I'll make an exception this time: I assert that the Christian God, as defined by Christians doesn't exist, because the "entity" that Christians define is logically inconsistent. And what is logically inconsistent is not possible.
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I normally don't answer trolls, but I'll make an exception this time: I assert that the Christian God, as defined by Christians doesn't exist, because the "entity" that Christians define is logically inconsistent. And what is logically inconsistent is not possible.
1) if the "christian god" doesnt exist, that in no way shape or form is any kind of argument against the idea of God. it is only, and i repeate ONLY, and argument against christianity.
2) why is the christian god logically inconsistent?
3) logically inconsistent does not = impossible. take for example, quantum physics.
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1) if the "christian god" doesnt exist, that in no way shape or form is any kind of argument against the idea of God. it is only, and i repeate ONLY, and argument against christianity.
I don't disagree. Of course, there's plenty of arguments that can be made against the concept of deities in general, but one thing at a time.
2) why is the christian god logically inconsistent?
Because when Christians can be bothered to ascribe attributes to the term, those attributes are contradictory and mutually exclusive with each other.
3) logically inconsistent does not = impossible. take for example, quantum physics.
There's nothing inherently logically inconsistent with quantum mechanics. Don't be confused by the fact that you may find it logically inconsistent.
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I don't disagree. Of course, there's plenty of arguments that can be made against the concept of deities in general, but one thing at a time.
there can be made arguments against the idea that you even exist. every assertion, whether true or not, can be argued against. this applies both to the assertion that there is a god, and the assertion that there isnt one.
Because when Christians can be bothered to ascribe attributes to the term, those attributes are contradictory and mutually exclusive with each other.
lol. i did not know that logic is based upon what people think. ???
There's nothing inherently logically inconsistent with quantum mechanics. Don't be confused by the fact that you may find it logically inconsistent.
quantum physics= an object can be in two different places at the same time.. among other things.. yes, it is "logically inconsistent"
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there can be made arguments against the idea that you even exist. every assertion, whether true or not, can be argued against. this applies both to the assertion that there is a god, and the assertion that there isnt one.
The question isn't whether arguments can be made. The question is whether the arguments make sense. You can argue I don't exist; you'd be stupid to do it, but you could.
lol. i did not know that logic is based upon what people think.
Logic can decide whether a particular belief is rational or not; oftentimes it can even prove or disprove that belief. Unfortunately those who value belief don't also value reason - and, conversely, those who value logic don't value belief.
quantum physics= an object can be in two different places at the same time.. among other things.. yes, it is "logically inconsistent"
The problem isn't quantum mechanics. The problem is your flawed understanding. Quantum mechanics doesn't say that an object is in two places at once - and if you think it does, I challenge you to provide a reference to a physics book that states that quantum mechanics allows an object to exist in two places at once.
And please, don't be confused by the fact that under quantum mechanics an object's position (before you observe it) is described by a probability/density function. That is not stating that an object can exist in two places at once anymore than replying "somewhere between The Venetian and The Luxor" in answer to the question "where will avxo be tomorrow at 11:30pm?" implies that I will be both at the Venetian and the Luxor.
tbombz, I know you fancy yourself a philosopher and fancy yourself am intellectual and a deep thinker. And maybe, just maybe, your incoherent babblings have managed to convince some that that is truly the case. Shouldn't you quit while you're ahead?
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there are arguments on both side of the "does god exist?" question that are equally strong.
arguing one side or the other is an act of ignorance.
some of the finest logical minds to ever live were believers, some of the strongest believers to have ever lived were quite logical. some extremely unreasonable people are atheists, and some atheists are extremely unreasonable people.
quantum physics has many things that appear illogical, magic, absurd, etc. of course, if you see it, it is no longer illogical, since it is simply observed. but, there are assumed implications .. which are illogical.
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I don't.
Think about this for a second: how can I define something that doesn't exist? What characteristics of non-existence do you believe are definable and testable?
But even if you think that it's possible to do the above, why should I provide any definition for something I don't believe in. If someone believed in God supposedly they know what it is they believe in and can diatinguish their God from, say, a cloaca from a dead chicken. In order to do that, they must be able to provide some definition.
Assuming you dont believe in unicorns and leprechauns can you still define those?
your assertion is that God doesnt exist and as such is subject to the same scrutiny youre holding others assertions to.
Now if you want to rephrase that and say you dont know thats fine, but if youre making assertions be prepared to back them up...Isnt that what you said to the other poster?
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Assuming you dont believe in unicorns and leprechauns can you still define those?
your assertion is that God doesnt exist and as such is subject to the same scrutiny youre holding others assertions to.
Now if you want to rephrase that and say you dont know thats fine, but if youre making assertions be prepared to back them up...Isnt that what you said to the other poster?
A unicorn has some reference in nature - it's roughly horse-like with a horn. No such reference for God, whose "claim to fame" is to be outside of nature. Christians can't define what it is they believe in, and it's not my job to define it for them - even if a concrete definition of a supernatural being who, we are told, defies definition could be defined.
I am perfectly willing to stand by and support the assertions I make. I assert that the Christian God, as defined by Christians, is a logical impossibility. I could write a book on why that is the case but George H. Smith already did, and he's a lot more eloquent than me. You may want to tea it sometime. The title is "Atheism: The Case Against God."
With that said. if you have specific instances that you believe logically demonstrate the existence of the Christian God I would be happy to debate them with you.
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Damn...this thread really went off, lol.
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From Lapierre to the existens of god.