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Title: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2011, 08:14:52 PM
Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
 Source: The Washington Post

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is planning to nearly quadruple the size of his $12 million California beachfront mansion.

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor and the nominal front-runner for the GOP’s 2012 presidential nomination, is planning to bulldoze his 3,009-square-foot home facing the Pacific Ocean in La Jolla, Calif., and replace it with an 11,062-square-foot home, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

The Union-Tribune reported late Saturday that Romney has filed an application with the city for a coastal development permit, but that no date has been set to consider the project.

A Romney campaign official confirmed the report, saying the Romneys want to “enlarge their two-bedroom home because with five married sons and 16 grandchildren it is inadequate for their needs. Construction will not begin until the permits have been obtained and the campaign is finished.”
 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2011, 08:33:58 PM
is he using tax dollars like bama is? 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
is he using tax dollars like bama is? 

he's unemployed.   he's letting the dogs out.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2011, 08:39:07 PM
he's unemployed.   he's letting the dogs out.
::)
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2011, 08:41:06 PM
::)


please put up a grownup in 2012.  none of the 'hey, i do believe the bible literally' morons.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 22, 2011, 08:47:40 PM
please put up a grownup in 2012.  none of the 'hey, i do believe the bible literally' morons.

 Thought you liked all but palin?   
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
Thought you liked all but palin?   

i dont like perry.  he forced american citizens to inject HPV vaccine.  that's some cold shit.

i like bachmann a lot.  I like her moving center. 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 22, 2011, 10:50:44 PM
i dont like perry.  he forced american citizens to inject HPV vaccine.  that's some cold shit.

i like bachmann a lot.  I like her moving center. 
Do you like her view that the USA won't survive unless it stays Israel's bitch?
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: chadstallion on August 23, 2011, 09:07:36 AM
as Zero Mostel said in "The Producers"  "If ya got, Flaunt it, baby !"
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: dario73 on August 23, 2011, 09:20:05 AM
please put up a grownup in 2012.  none of the 'hey, i do believe the bible literally' morons.

How does believing in the bible literally prevent anyone from being a good president? Why would that be a factor? Why is that important to you?

Obama doesn't believe in the bible literally, yet he is the worst president ever.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2011, 09:37:38 AM
How does believing in the bible literally prevent anyone from being a good president? Why would that be a factor? Why is that important to you?

Because, in the course of 4 years in office, there will be situations in which science is a really big deal.  Something will be discovered in medicine or weapons or other technology.

A person who believes there is a magic guy in the sky who waved a magic wand and VOILA - the earth and people were in in 6 days... that shit is as delusional as santa claus.

And I sure wouldn't want someone who thought santa could bring enough jobs to save the economy in charge of things.

So yeah - Give me ANY repub that isn't a bible literalist, they can have my vote.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: dario73 on August 23, 2011, 10:19:44 AM
Because, in the course of 4 years in office, there will be situations in which science is a really big deal.  Something will be discovered in medicine or weapons or other technology.

A person who believes there is a magic guy in the sky who waved a magic wand and VOILA - the earth and people were in in 6 days... that shit is as delusional as santa claus.

And I sure wouldn't want someone who thought santa could bring enough jobs to save the economy in charge of things.

So yeah - Give me ANY repub that isn't a bible literalist, they can have my vote.

You are assuming that Christians would stand in the way of advancement of medicine or technology that is of VALUE to the nation. That assumption is completely wrong. Some of the greatest scientists ever were Christians. Even today, there are scientists who have no problem with believing in God. Christians who know their Bible know that advancement in science is to be expected as is stated in the book of Daniel.

By your logic, the USA should not have made any advancement during the first 30 presidents.

Again, you have no reason for concern. Like I stated. Obama doesn't believe in the Bible literally and the nation has gone backwards in every area.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2011, 10:41:22 AM
Who cares?   ::)
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Dos Equis on August 23, 2011, 10:43:29 AM
You are assuming that Christians would stand in the way of advancement of medicine or technology that is of VALUE to the nation. That assumption is completely wrong. Some of the greatest scientists ever were Christians. Even today, there are scientists who have no problem with believing in God. Christians who know their Bible know that advancement in science is to be expected as is stated in the book of Daniel.

By your logic, the USA should not have made any advancement during the first 30 presidents.

Again, you have no reason for concern. Like I stated. Obama doesn't believe in the Bible literally and the nation has gone backwards in every area.

Agree.  It's a pretty dumb viewpoint, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

BTW, Ron Paul doesn't believe in the monkey business:



Regardless, this isn't something the president ever deals with, so it's really not a legitimate issue for a presidential candidate. 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: dario73 on August 24, 2011, 06:08:56 AM
Agree.  It's a pretty dumb viewpoint, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.  

BTW, Ron Paul doesn't believe in the monkey business:



Regardless, this isn't something the president ever deals with, so it's really not a legitimate issue for a presidential candidate.  

Agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: James on August 24, 2011, 06:27:58 AM
Agree.  It's a pretty dumb viewpoint, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.  

BTW, Ron Paul doesn't believe in the monkey business:



Regardless, this isn't something the president ever deals with, so it's really not a legitimate issue for a presidential candidate.  

Ron Paul just lost 240's vote  ::)
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 06:29:33 AM
Ron Paul never had 240's vote.

240 agrees with Ron Paul on one issue - guns. 

Other than that - 240 is a Hope & Changer fired up and ready to go on November 6, 2012 for Obama.  Dont kid yourself, 240 - probably runs an OFA hub out of his house.   
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: dario73 on August 24, 2011, 06:35:55 AM
"Science" When It Suits Them
By David Harsanyi

So every now and then, liberals are treated to a big self-righteous laugh at the expense of some backwoods Christian conservative candidate who "ignores science" by doubting evolution or global warming -- or, gasp, both.

Much, for instance, has been made of Texas Gov. Rick Perry's recent suggestion that evolution is a "theory that's out there" with "gaps in it." He even insinuated that evolution and creationism should both be taught in schools -- because folks are "smart enough to figure out which one is right."

Sanctimony to red alert!

Now, I have no interest in watching my kids waste their time with creationism, but unlike progressives, I have no interest in dictating what other kids should learn. Remember that these folks, bothered by the very thought of their offspring's hearing a God-infused concept in school, have no problem forcing millions of parents to accept bureaucrat-written curricula at government-run school monopolies. They oppose home schooling. They oppose school choice. They oppose parents choosing a religious education with their tax dollars.

As a voter, like me, you may find Perry's view on creationism disconcerting and a sign of an unsophisticated candidate. But the fact is that the progressives' faith-based devotion to government is far more consequential than Perry's faith-based position on evolution.

Despite the rare political dispute, in the real world, science -- real science -- is rarely controversial. It's politicized science that is prickly. And science is easy to politicize. Maybe if schools began teaching students that "life" begins at conception and that each zygote, embryo and fetus is a unique human being in some early stage of development just waiting to be born, liberals would see the point.

No, my kids haven't been chewing over Charles Darwin text or the Holy Bible in elementary school. There's simply no time. Not with global warming out there.

Perry, not surprisingly, was also recently asked about "global warming." He responded that "the issue has been politicized" and that pouring billions of dollars into "a scientific theory that has not been proven and ... is more and more being put into question" is not worthwhile.

It is interesting watching the nation's defenders of reason, empirical evidence and science fail to display a hint of skepticism over the transparently political "science" of global warming. Rarely are scientists so certain in predicting the future. Yet this is a special case. It is also curious that these supposed champions of Darwin don't believe that human beings -- or nature -- have the ability to adapt to changing climate.

Like 99 percent of pundits and politicians, though, I have no business chiming in on the science of climate change -- though my kids' teachers sure are experts. Needless to say, there is a spectacular array of viewpoints on this issue. The answers are far from settled. There are debates over how much humans contribute. There are debates over how much warming we're seeing. There are debates over many things.

But even if one believed the most terrifying projections of global warming alarmist "science," it certainly doesn't mean one has to support the anti-capitalist technocracy to fix it. And try as some may to conflate the two, global warming policy is not "science." The left sees civilization's salvation in a massive Luddite undertaking that inhibits technological growth by turning back the clock, undoing footprints, forcing technology that doesn't exist, banning products that do and badgering consumers who have not adhered to the plan through all kinds of punishment. Yet there is no real science that has shown that any of it makes a whit of difference.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/24/science_when_it_suits_them_111071.html
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 06:41:08 AM
These leftists are pieces of shit with this global warming crap.   

As if taxing the shit out of us more and imposing onerous regulations is going to benefit anyone. 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Deicide on August 24, 2011, 06:41:53 AM
Evolution is a fact, why is that even being disputed these days? It is not directly related to the economy though so...why bring it up?
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 06:45:06 AM
Evolution is a fact, why is that even being disputed these days? It is not directly related to the economy though so...why bring it up?


Its the leftists who mostly bring it up because they think that they can score points and make themselves look smarter than anyone else. 

Personally - I dont give a shit on religious issues, but the marxist left is far more dangerous to me than people who hold certain religious beliefs.   
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 24, 2011, 06:46:33 AM
i dont like perry. 

Not to mention he believes that Katrina was God's Punishment for a sinful city and 9/11 was God's Punishment for homosexual tolerance.  

Which makes me wonder about his little Prayerthon (that failed) for the worst drought in Texas history.  What was Texas being punished for?  
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Deicide on August 24, 2011, 06:48:45 AM

Its the leftists who mostly bring it up because they think that they can score points and make themselves look smarter than anyone else. 

Personally - I dont give a shit on religious issues, but the marxist left is far more dangerous to me than people who hold certain religious beliefs.   

I think extreme ideologies are equally dangerous. What I like about RP is that he does not wear his Christianity on his sleeve and concentrates on the issues.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2011, 08:13:43 AM
You are assuming that Christians would stand in the way of advancement of medicine or technology that is of VALUE to the nation. That assumption is completely wrong.

What about stem cell research, dario?
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 08:14:59 AM

Its the leftists who mostly bring it up because they think that they can score points and make themselves look smarter than anyone else. 

Personally - I dont give a shit on religious issues, but the marxist left is far more dangerous to me than people who hold certain religious beliefs.   

Every time they do that, all you have to do is bring up the record of the "intellectual" Harvard grad, who is oh-so-sophisticated, Barack Hussein Obama (Mmmmm....mmmmm....mmmmm!!).

And, that's ball game.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 08:15:10 AM
What about stem cell research, dario?

Who gives a fuck !  

You have obama shutting down fraud probes on wall street banks who helped cause the mess we are in and you worry about this irrelvent crap?  
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2011, 08:18:23 AM
Who gives a fuck ! 

You're a healthy 30-something dude today.

Tell me you don't give a shit about the benefits of stem cells when you're 73 and you get sick.


Stem cell research can potentially help treat a range of medical problems. It could lead humanity closer to better treatment and possibly cure a number of diseases:


•Parkinson’s Disease


•Alzheimer’s Disease


•Heart Diseases, Stroke and Diabetes (Type 1)


•Birth Defects


•Spinal Cord Injuries


•Replace or Repair Damaged Organs


•Reduced Risk of Transplantation (You could possibly get a copy of your own heart in a heart-transplantation in the future


•Stem cells may play a major role in cancer

Better treatment of these diseases could also give significant social benefits for individuals and economic gains for society

Read more: http://www.experiment-resources.com/stem-cell-pros-and-cons.html#ixzz1VxZh6k1E
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
What about stem cell research, dario?

Still bringing up this ridiculous canard?

The only type of stem cell research that Christians oppose is EMBRYONIC stem cell research, which just so happens to be the one type that hasn't cure or treated JACK!!

At last count, Adult Stem Cell Research - 74, Embryonic Stem Cell Research - ZERO.

As I mentioned the last time this issue came up, here's a guy who's doing scientific breakthroughs with stem cells from baby teeth. And, get this....HE'S A CREATIONIST!!!!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth)


Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2011, 08:21:11 AM
stem cells are the perfect example of a technology which could allow americans to live longer, lower national healthcare costs, and boost our national economy in a MAJOR war.  Imagine the rest of the world lining up at US clinics for some new magical therapy for organ translplants that only american ingenuity can deliver, thanks to stem research?

There may be other things down the road.  Maybe we'll hear about them, maybe not.  Any leader who will stand in the way of curing alzheimers because of what a man-made book says = shouldn't be president.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2011, 08:22:46 AM
I'm sure the first gasoline-driven vehicle or heart stint was a FAIL too.

But giving scientists and inventors the ability to fail a few hundred time before they find the right formulaq = the way to go.

Reminds me of that close-minded patent officer who, in 1898, announced proudly that everything which could be invented had been invented.  His great-grandkids mock him while surfing getbig on their iphone.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 08:23:24 AM
stem cells are the perfect example of a technology which could allow americans to live longer, lower national healthcare costs, and boost our national economy in a MAJOR war.  Imagine the rest of the world lining up at US clinics for some new magical therapy for organ translplants that only american ingenuity can deliver, thanks to stem research?

There may be other things down the road.  Maybe we'll hear about them, maybe not.  Any leader who will stand in the way of curing alzheimers because of what a man-made book says = shouldn't be president.  Sorry.

Once again, you are PURPOSELY ignoring the fact that Christians are IN FAVOR of Adult stem cell research.

What part of "Adult Stem Cell Research - 74, Embryonic Stem Cell Research - ZERO" don't you get?
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 08:24:20 AM
240 - stop the charade.   Just admit your blind, unquestioning, unbending, unaltering, never faltering, devotion to Obama and shit for brains left he represents.  


Stem Cells is a non issue relative to what is going on now.  

But oh yeah, lets focus on the most idiotic fucking thing and avoid the 900lbs gorrillas all over the room because it makes the messiah look like the dirty ghetto thug leech, looter, and flash mobbing wretch look worse for 2012.  

Nice.    
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: James on August 24, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
240,

Aren't you a Ron Paul supporter?

FYI Ron Paul doesn't support embryonic stem cell research either....
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 08:25:59 AM
I'm sure the first gasoline-driven vehicle or heart stint was a FAIL too.

But giving scientists and inventors the ability to fail a few hundred time before they find the right formulaq = the way to go.

Reminds me of that close-minded patent officer who, in 1898, announced proudly that everything which could be invented had been invented.  His great-grandkids mock him while surfing getbig on their iphone.

The bottom line is that THERE IS NO NEED for embryonic stem cell research, because adult cells get the job done and have been for quite some time.

Other countries have funded it for DECADES, but they haven't produced SQUAT. Why not stick with what works, unless there is an ulterior motive for using embryonic stem cells?
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 08:28:05 AM
You're a healthy 30-something dude today.

Tell me you don't give a shit about the benefits of stem cells when you're 73 and you get sick.


Stem cell research can potentially help treat a range of medical problems. It could lead humanity closer to better treatment and possibly cure a number of diseases:


•Parkinson’s Disease


•Alzheimer’s Disease


•Heart Diseases, Stroke and Diabetes (Type 1)


•Birth Defects


•Spinal Cord Injuries


•Replace or Repair Damaged Organs


•Reduced Risk of Transplantation (You could possibly get a copy of your own heart in a heart-transplantation in the future


•Stem cells may play a major role in cancer

Better treatment of these diseases could also give significant social benefits for individuals and economic gains for society

Read more: http://www.experiment-resources.com/stem-cell-pros-and-cons.html#ixzz1VxZh6k1E

Nearly ALL of these are or can be treated with ADULT stem cells; NONE have been treated with embryonic ones. But don't take my word for it.

Cancers:

# Brain Cancer
# Retinoblastoma
# Ovarian Cancer
# Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma
# Testicular Cancer
# Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma
# Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma
# Hodgkin's Lymphoma
# Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia
# Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
# Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
# Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia
# Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia
# Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy
# Multiple Myeloma
# Myelodysplasia
# Breast Cancer
# Neuroblastoma
# Renal Cell Carcinoma
# Various Solid Tumors
# Soft Tissue Sarcoma
# Ewing's Sarcoma
# Waldenstrom's macroglobulinemia
# Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis
# POEMS syndrome
# Myelofibrosis

Auto-Immune Diseases
# Diabetes Type I (Juvenile)
# Systemic Lupus
# Sjogren's Syndrome
# Myasthenia
# Autoimmune Cytopenia
# Scleromyxedema
# Scleroderma
# Crohn's Disease
# Behcet's Disease
# Rheumatoid Arthritis
# Juvenile Arthritis
# Multiple Sclerosis
# Polychondritis
# Systemic Vasculitis
# Alopecia Universalis
# Buerger's Disease

Cardiovascular
# Acute Heart Damage
# Chronic Coronary Artery Disease

Ocular
# Corneal regeneration

Immunodeficiencies
# Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome
# X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome
# X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome

Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries
# Parkinson's Disease
# Spinal Cord Injury
# Stroke Damage

Anemias and Other Blood Conditions
# Sickle Cell Anemia
# Sideroblastic Anemia
# Aplastic Anemia
# Red Cell Aplasia
# Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia
# Thalassemia
# Primary Amyloidosis
# Diamond Blackfan Anemia
# Fanconi's Anemia
# Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection

Wounds and Injuries
# Limb Gangrene
# Surface Wound Healing
# Jawbone Replacement
# Skull Bone Repair

Other Metabolic Disorders
# Hurler's Syndrome
# Osteogenesis Imperfecta
# Krabbe Leukodystrophy
# Osteopetrosis
# Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy

Liver Disease
# Chronic Liver Failure
# Liver Cirrhosis

Bladder Disease
# End-Stage Bladder Disease


http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm (http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm)
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: James on August 24, 2011, 08:30:05 AM
I guess Ron Paul just lost 240's vote, as Paul does not support embryonic stem cell research either....
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 08:30:36 AM
240,

Aren't you a Ron Paul supporter?

FYI Ron Paul doesn't support embryonic stem cell research either....

240 is lying.  other than guns - 240 and RP are polar opposites on every issue.  

240 just like when RP trashes other repubs as a way to prop up obama.  
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 08:33:22 AM
240 - stop the charade.   Just admit your blind, unquestioning, unbending, unaltering, never faltering, devotion to Obama and shit for brains left he represents.  


Stem Cells is a non issue relative to what is going on now.  

But oh yeah, lets focus on the most idiotic fucking thing and avoid the 900lbs gorrillas all over the room because it makes the messiah look like the dirty ghetto thug leech, looter, and flash mobbing wretch look worse for 2012.  

Nice.    

As I said earlier, the top issues are:

1 - The economy
2 - Jobs
3 - Repeat 1 & 2

But, the card-carrying members of TK (and the left-winged goofies in the media) are now focused on anything and everything BUT those items, because their golden boy, Obama, is RUSTING before their very eyes.

The reason the lefties are patting Huntsman on the head is that he's probably the ONLY Republican Obama can beat, at this point. Basically, he's a limp-wristed RINO. Perry, Bachmann, and even (to a lesser degree) Romney combine both the fiscal and social issues together, focusing primarily on the former without tossing the latter to the side.

That's why the goofies are all bent out of shape about global warming, evolution, and the rest.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: kcballer on August 24, 2011, 09:22:33 AM
This isn't political news, this is akin to 333's nonsense attacks. 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: James on August 24, 2011, 09:25:27 AM
Once again, you are PURPOSELY ignoring the fact that Christians are IN FAVOR of Adult stem cell research.

What part of "Adult Stem Cell Research - 74, Embryonic Stem Cell Research - ZERO" don't you get?

As usual once the facts come out, 240 disappears.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 09:26:27 AM
This isn't political news, this is akin to 333's nonsense attacks. 

Difference is that i admit to launching petty attacks on the two looters, grifters, and flash mobbers in the WH. 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: blacken700 on August 24, 2011, 09:29:04 AM
Embryonic stem cells are thought by most scientists and researchers to hold potential cures for spinal cord injuries, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, Parkinson's disease, cancer, Alzheimer's disease, heart disease, hundreds of rare immune system and genetic disorders and much more.
Scientists see almost infinite value in the use of embryonic stem cell research to understand human development and the growth and treatment of dieases.

Actual cures are many years away, though, since research has not progressed to the point where even one cure has yet been generated by embryonic stem cell research.

Over 100 million Americans suffer from diseases that eventually may be treated more effectively or even cured with embryonic stem cell therapy. Some researchers regard this as the greatest potential for the alleviation of human suffering since the advent of antibiotics.

Many pro-lifers believe that the proper moral and religious course of action is to save existing life through embryonic stem cell therapy.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 09:34:39 AM
Embryonic stem cells are thought by most scientists and researchers to hold potential cures for spinal cord injuries, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, Parkinson's disease, cancer, Alzheimer's disease, heart disease, hundreds of rare immune system and genetic disorders and much more.
Scientists see almost infinite value in the use of embryonic stem cell research to understand human development and the growth and treatment of dieases.

Actual cures are many years away, though, since research has not progressed to the point where even one cure has yet been generated by embryonic stem cell research.

Over 100 million Americans suffer from diseases that eventually may be treated more effectively or even cured with embryonic stem cell therapy. Some researchers regard this as the greatest potential for the alleviation of human suffering since the advent of antibiotics.

Many pro-lifers believe that the proper moral and religious course of action is to save existing life through embryonic stem cell therapy.


Those researchers have been spouting that mess for decades. But, they've produced ZILCH. Meanwhile, ADULT stem cells are treating and curing diseases NOW. And, virtually all of the "potential" that embryonic stem cell research supposedly possesses has been found in adult stem cells.

74 - 0....enough said.

Edit - And, Blacken, if you're going to cut and paste this tired line, at least cite the source.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: blacken700 on August 24, 2011, 09:40:42 AM
just because they have not produced any results yet doesn't mean they won't .if we go by your thinking when the wright bros were inventing the plane you would have stoped them and said we don't need a plane its never going to work and we already have the car to get around.and if god wanted us to fly he would have gave us wings  :D :D
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
just because they have not produced any results yet doesn't mean they won't .if we go by your thinking when the wright bros were inventing the plane you would have stoped them and said we don't need a plane its never going to work and we already have the car to get around.and if god wanted us to fly he would have gave us wings  :D :D

Try that again! When one design of the Wright Brothers failed, THEY WENT WITH ANOTHER DESIGN; they didn't stick with the same failed model.

That's what the ESCR bubbas are doing. Their research has been a failure, time and time again (even in countries where it's been funded without incident). That's why lefties need the government to fund it; the private sector won't, because THEY'LL GO BROKE, subsidizing something that doesn't work.

Yet, adult stem cell research is taking off. It's curing diseases NOW; and it's displaying the same "potential" that supposedly was only found in embryonic stem cells.

And, as I posted earlier, now there's research coming from baby teeth.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Deicide on August 24, 2011, 09:56:32 AM
This isn't political news, this is akin to 333's nonsense attacks. 

Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: blacken700 on August 24, 2011, 09:58:52 AM
so your saying you know more than scientists,just stick to your big comic book and let the scientists do their job :D
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 10:08:03 AM


Do those who don't bow down get thrown into the lake of fire?

You've pretty much summed up the members of TK. But, you forgot their unofficial-official theme song.



And, although it's SEVERELY politically incorrect, this next link (which also contains the song) sums up the mentality of TK and other Obama supporters (Warning: the language is, shall we say, not rated PG).

Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: blacken700 on August 24, 2011, 10:12:19 AM
Do those who don't bow down get thrown into the lake of fire?

You've pretty much summed up the members of TK. But, you forgot their unofficial-official theme song.



And, although it's SEVERELY politically incorrect, this next link (which also contains the song) sums up the mentality of TK and other Obama supporters (Warning: the language is, shall we say, not rated PG).





would Jesus post stuff like this or encourage you to post this

Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: MCWAY on August 24, 2011, 10:25:05 AM


would Jesus post stuff like this or encourage you to post this



Nope!! What's your point?

I couldn't find the edited versions. The bottom line is that such sheepish mentality sums up TK (and others) quite nicely. Sometimes, the truth ain't pretty.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2011, 10:44:25 AM
i disagree with RPaul on this issue.  but we all disagree with the candidates we like on at least 1 issue.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: James on August 24, 2011, 10:54:57 AM
1st issue:
i disagree with RPaul on this issue.  but we all disagree with the candidates we like on at least 1 issue.


2nd Issue :
i disagree with RPaul on this topic.

he's 100% right morally, but the fact is, our enemies worldwide will never let us recover from it.  and the price of domestic goods will skyrocket if we default.  RPaul's attitude is great LONG TERm for the next 500 years.  I am more concerned about TODAY.

3rd Issue:
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
240 also disgrees with RP's stance on TARP, medicare, SS, etc
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: kcballer on August 24, 2011, 11:28:14 AM
Seriously?  RP doesn't believe in evolution?

Hahaha that's like saying i don't believe in gravity.  Utterly stupid!

Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2011, 11:31:46 AM
Seriously?  RP doesn't believe in evolution?

Hahaha that's like saying i don't believe in gravity.  Utterly stupid!



Coming from someone who believes in Keynsian Economics, thats' rich.   
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Dos Equis on August 24, 2011, 11:32:07 AM
Not to mention he believes that Katrina was God's Punishment for a sinful city and 9/11 was God's Punishment for homosexual tolerance.  

Which makes me wonder about his little Prayerthon (that failed) for the worst drought in Texas history.  What was Texas being punished for?  

He said this?  When? 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: kcballer on August 24, 2011, 11:42:59 AM
Coming from someone who believes in Keynsian Economics, thats' rich.   

Haha i doubt you have one clue of what Keynesian Economics actually are.  Besides from talking points you have read or heard from a youtube.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: chadstallion on August 24, 2011, 03:47:40 PM
Seriously?  RP doesn't believe in evolution?

Hahaha that's like saying i don't believe in gravity.  Utterly stupid!


after all, gravity's only a theory, too.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2011, 04:42:40 PM
How DARE he use his own money as he sees fit! That SCUMBAG. Give it to the government, Thugney! They know how to spend it better than anyone else!
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: bears on August 25, 2011, 08:27:24 AM
How DARE he use his own money as he sees fit! That SCUMBAG. Give it to the government, Thugney! They know how to spend it better than anyone else!

for real.  how can a man have the audacity to grow up in america, make a bunch of money, and spend it on a big beautiful house for his family?  next we'll be hearing about him using more of that money he made to pay for some of his grandchildren's education.  what an asshole.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2011, 09:33:47 AM
for real.  how can a man have the audacity to grow up in america, make a bunch of money, and spend it on a big beautiful house for his family?  next we'll be hearing about him using more of that money he made to pay for some of his grandchildren's education.  what an asshole.

Yeah.  Maybe he should be patriotic and just send his money to the government. 
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: chadstallion on August 25, 2011, 02:29:40 PM
for real.  how can a man have the audacity to grow up in america, make a bunch of money, and spend it on a big beautiful house for his family?  next we'll be hearing about him using more of that money he made to pay for some of his grandchildren's education.  what an asshole.
or do what John McCain did; marry the money.  last count - 8+ homes.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2011, 02:34:46 PM
or do what John McCain did; marry the money.  last count - 8+ homes.

Or do what John Kerry did and marry the money.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: Fury on August 25, 2011, 04:41:02 PM
1st issue:
2nd Issue :
3rd Issue:


240 is a Ron Paul fan boy who doesn't agree with a single viewpoint of his. Pretty funny.
Title: Re: Romney plans to quadruple size of Calif. home
Post by: chadstallion on August 26, 2011, 06:26:18 AM
Or do what John Kerry did and marry the money.
well played, sir! (marry the money!)