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http://www.businessinsider.com/fighter-jet-shot-down-by-turkey-crashes-on-syrian-border-2015-11
Putin will either reply with force or Russians will oust him. They feel humiliated by how America destroyed them with sanctions, humiliated by the attack on the passenger Jet terror attack and now this.
Putin knows his people, they can turn on a dime.
Yet Turkey is a NATO ally making things not so simple.
A Military Draft in the US is right around d the corner, this is serious guys.
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Fuck Article V, let Turkey burn.
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People on the right want a military draft, anyways.
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People on the right want a military draft, anyways.
No, we actually don't. Forced servitude to the state is never a conservative principle. You are looking into your own authoritarian heart.
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People on the right old enough not to get drafted want a military draft, anyways.
fixed
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Turkey is aiding ISIS. Turkey is turning from a moderate Muslim country into a radical one.
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People on the right want a military draft, anyways.
Nobody wants a draft, least of all in support of our Turk "allies." Fuck 'em. I'd be glad if Russia wipes them off the map completely, installs an Orthodox state, and re-establishes Constantinople, with Hagia Sophia as a Church... as it should be.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983?ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_linkname=news_central
It's on now! How does Putin handle this?
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Turkey is aiding ISIS. Turkey is turning from a moderate Muslim country into a radical one.
Exactly, Erdogan thinks he is a King, Russia will destroy him in 10 seconds, NATO won't do shit.
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Guess it won't be such a happy thanksgiving for Turkey after all or most turkeys in general...
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Nobody wants a draft, least of all in support of our Turk "allies." Fuck 'em. I'd be glad if Russia wipes them off the map completely, installs an Orthodox state, and re-establishes Constantinople, with Hagia Sophia as a Church... as it should be.
Damn right.
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Guess it won't be such a happy thanksgiving for Turkey after all or most turkeys in general...
Nah, the Real Turkeys are about to laugh at the fake Turkey and their terrorist leader Erdogan
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Nah, the Real Turkeys are about to laugh at the fake Turkey and their terrorist leader Erdogan
they gotta have a card up their sleeves to mess with Russia like that. I swear, I never knew anything about this stuff until recent readings on this site!
I thought that pic of their leader was shopped it looks so ridiculous, lol!
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they gotta have a card up their sleeves to mess with Russia like that. I swear, I never knew anything about this stuff until recent readings on this site!
I thought that pic of their leader was shopped it looks so ridiculous, lol!
They have NATO up their sleeve, however NATO is not in the mood and WON'T fight Russia, they are scared shitless, we saw that during the height of the Ukrainian / Crimea fiasco.
Russia has been testing airspaces and radars for a few years now of many countries, they have nuclear armed submarines all over the place, they are fully ready.
Putin knows his people, unlike Americans when something bad happens the support for the president goes up regardless, in Russia when something bad happens that is humiliating they expect their President to reply or they will hang him, remember, way tougher and brutal Russia leaders were ousted, Russians are not little weak candle light vigil emotional ass fucking craving bearded crack heads.
They are humiliated from the sanctions (their economy now sucks, oil tanked, Their currency tanked), they got humiliated from the attack on the passenger plane and now their military is being shot out of the sky.
Russian history shows over and over again how quick people there can turn. When they get angry they do not fear anything, 10 million Russians will storm the kremlin, they do not care, they Vodka up and go at it.
This is serious, this is not a joke, either Putin responds or Russia gets a new leader that will.
Putin is not a push over or so he portrays. He already has amassed a ton of equipment right in Turkeys backyard.
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they gotta have a card up their sleeves to mess with Russia like that. I swear, I never knew anything about this stuff until recent readings on this site!
I thought that pic of their leader was shopped it looks so ridiculous, lol!
Have a good laugh
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Syria is just another afghanistan. Super powers rarely learn of their previous mistakes....just leave that islamic nightmare to the other muslims retards
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Syria is just another afghanistan. Super powers rarely learn of their previous mistakes....just leave that islamic nightmare to the other muslims retards
Are you joking? The world has left ISIS to the other muslim retards and all that happened was ISIS got stronger and is a global threat now not just some mid east threat.
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Video of the shoot down
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keep this shit away from G&O u faggy sheep
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Terrible video of pilot, hope Russia takes the proper Revenge
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The Turks want Assad out. They aren't happy with Russia backing him.
It will be interesting to see how Putin reacts to this.
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Turkey is aiding ISIS. Turkey is turning from a moderate Muslim country into a radical one.
most of the oil ISIS has gets sold illegally through Turkey. Turkish sons of b1tches.
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Just send one Nuke to Turkey and one to Syria
Case closed.
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and by the way, this conflict will not escalate. Putin is saying that the fighter was not in Turkish air space. Thus, Putin is trying to wash his hands of any wrong doing (flying into turkish air space). Putin will try to recover the pilots and then no further aggression will be made right now by Russia. That is my prediction.
If Putin was so mad about this he would react in much stronger ways.
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most of the oil ISIS has gets sold illegally through Turkey. Turkish sons of b1tches.
exactly!
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exactly!
Trump has already stated "we're gonna keep the oil"
Are you buying that statement?
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Putin finally said it like it is, NATO is being used by IS and Turkey shot the plane down to help IS
Say what you want he is saying what many already realize, the question is will he wipe these IS supporting turks off the map or will he go back to hiding and playing chicken?
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-34908469
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Breaking News: Vladimir Putin called Turkey’s downing of a Russian fighter jet near the Syrian border a “stab in the back.” http://nyti.ms/1XbQdqE
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Breaking News: Vladimir Putin called Turkey’s downing of a Russian fighter jet near the Syrian border a “stab in the back.” http://nyti.ms/1XbQdqE
The other things he said should scare the living daylights out of NATO. If he truly believes that NATO is now being used to defend IS, he will soon ready and make nuclear threats and possibly even worse. Do not underestimate Putin especially if he feels that Russians will see him as weak, the second Russians see their leader as weak they oust them
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Controlshifts
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and by the way, this conflict will not escalate. Putin is saying that the fighter was not in Turkish air space. Thus, Putin is trying to wash his hands of any wrong doing (flying into turkish air space). Putin will try to recover the pilots and then no further aggression will be made right now by Russia. That is my prediction.
If Putin was so mad about this he would react in much stronger ways.
this
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Areas the Russians have bombed
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Areas the Russians have bombed
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Lots of things changed since that chart was made in Early Oct 15
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Lots of things changed since that chart was made in Early Oct 15
Show me a map of Nov 24!
Hopefully Putin will bomb AndreDaChimps backyard next month.
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Putin will not do shit...his planes are constantly violating the airspace of other countries......its his policy to this as a provocation....he thought no one would dare shoot down a Russian plane..he was wrong.......despite his threats he doesn't dare start WWIII
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Putin will not do shit...his planes are constantly violating the airspace of other countries......its his policy to this as a provocation....he thought no one would dare shoot down a Russian plane..he was wrong.......despite his threats he doesn't dare start WWIII
If you are talking about the Russia/US incidents, Russia planes get escorted out. No need to shoot down a plane. As it would increase tensions, amongst NATO allies. Like this will cause.
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Sad to see Turkey moving slowly towards the doldrums of Islamic fundamentalism and away from the nation that Ataturk envisaged.
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If you are talking about the Russia/US incidents, Russia planes get escorted out. No need to shoot down a plane. As it would increase tensions, amongst NATO allies. Like this will cause.
Andre is not as intelligent as you Parker. He cannot see the consequences or even fathom the scope of what's happened.
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Look and listen to Putin, he is going to respond and not fuck around
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Trump has already stated "we're gonna keep the oil"
Are you buying that statement?
trump also said he prefers to let Russia handle ISIS and syria.
therefore whatever russia does now, trump gave them the green light.
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trump also said he prefers to let Russia handle ISIS and syria.
therefore whatever russia does now, trump gave them the green light.
His finger isn't on the switch.
Politicians tend to change their tune once in office. The representatives whose support they need to make policy changes are bought and paid for by lobbyists and special interest groups.
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Syrian Rebels Destroy Russian Helicopter With US-Supplied Anti-Tank Missile
Earlier today, just hours after Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 warplane near the border with Syria, the FSA (more specifically Alwiya al-Ashar) released footage of fighters celebrating over the body of a dead Russian pilot.
The group would later claim to have executed both pilots after they ejected from the plane and attempted to parachute to safety.
In a second serious escalation, another FSA-aligned group claimed to have shot down a Russian search and rescue helicopter.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/caught-tape-syrian-rebels-destroy-russian-helicopter-us-supplied-anti-tank-missile
You can read our full coverage here, but just note that if the FSA's 1st Coastal Brigade did indeed use an American-made TOW to destroy a Russian aircraft, it confirms exactly what we said on Monday when we detailed the American, Turkish, and Saudi-sponsored program to supply anti-tank missiles to the Syrian opposition:
Obviously, this is the very definition of absurdity. It would be bad enough if the US were supplying TOWs to anyone in Syria. But this is Washington and Riyadh handing anti-tank missiles to forces that are firing them at the Iranians who are operating under cover of Russian airstrikes. Just to drive that home: the US is waging war against Iran and Russia with but one degree of separation.
Now, the FSA has released what it says is footage of the TOW attack:
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Syrian Rebels Destroy Russian Helicopter With US-Supplied Anti-Tank Missile
Earlier today, just hours after Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 warplane near the border with Syria, the FSA (more specifically Alwiya al-Ashar) released footage of fighters celebrating over the body of a dead Russian pilot.
The group would later claim to have executed both pilots after they ejected from the plane and attempted to parachute to safety.
In a second serious escalation, another FSA-aligned group claimed to have shot down a Russian search and rescue helicopter.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/caught-tape-syrian-rebels-destroy-russian-helicopter-us-supplied-anti-tank-missile
You can read our full coverage here, but just note that if the FSA's 1st Coastal Brigade did indeed use an American-made TOW to destroy a Russian aircraft, it confirms exactly what we said on Monday when we detailed the American, Turkish, and Saudi-sponsored program to supply anti-tank missiles to the Syrian opposition:
Obviously, this is the very definition of absurdity. It would be bad enough if the US were supplying TOWs to anyone in Syria. But this is Washington and Riyadh handing anti-tank missiles to forces that are firing them at the Iranians who are operating under cover of Russian airstrikes. Just to drive that home: the US is waging war against Iran and Russia with but one degree of separation.
Now, the FSA has released what it says is footage of the TOW attack:
Russia won't let this slide!
Hopefully they will DOUBLE their effort now! (double the amount of cruisemissiles per day)
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Horrible way to die...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068)
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Horrible way to die...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068)
If only mark wahlberg was there to help the pilots and seek revenge on the turkmen.
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Horrible way to die...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068)
not sure if Parachutes or UFOs :-\
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There were many saying that the FSA were different to IS. However, their chants of "Allahu Akbar" over the dead bodies suggest otherwise.
Looks like Putin was right all along - IS and FSA are two sides of the same coin.
Time for the Western leaders to admit their errors and now publicly back Assad in this conflict.
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It's a lot like clemenza said in the godfather
"How bad do you think it's gonna be?"
"Pretty goddam bad. Probably all the other Families will line up against us. That's all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble."
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Disgusting
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=425_1448360570 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=425_1448360570)
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There were many saying that the FSA were different to IS. However, their chants of "Allahu Akbar" over the dead bodies suggest otherwise.
Looks like Putin was right all along - IS and FSA are two sides of the same coin.
Time for the Western leaders to admit their errors and now publicly back Assad in this conflict.
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Russia needs to hire these guys to settle the score
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trump also said he prefers to let Russia handle ISIS and syria.
therefore whatever russia does now, trump gave them the green light.
Russia has no idiotic rules of engagement so they can drop their WW2 bombs anywhere they want with no worries about civilian casualties.
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Russia has no idiotic rules of engagement so they can drop their WW2 bombs anywhere they want with no worries about civilian casualties.
What we've should have been doing since Sept. 11th
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His finger isn't on the switch.
not yet. But soon it may be. Repubs have made trump the clear frontrunner. They love the dude, even if he was a democrat his entire life until recently.
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Russia needs to hire these guys to settle the score
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Erdogan just shot his own foot today. As a first step his country will lose billions in tourism income and Putin would make sure to completely cut off supply of "unofficial" crude oil from terrorists.
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Russia has been testing airspaces and radars for a few years now of many countries, they have nuclear armed submarines all over the place, they are fully ready.
Hey, every big country with army does border control. And that's what it was.
USA was doing just the same thing with China recently.
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@ bosch,
Am I the only one who thinks the dude touching the President's face looks like the Emperor from Star Wars?
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Why was the Russian pilot beaten & killed? It would've been smart to have keep the pilots alive.
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Of course Obama has quickly taken the side of the terrorists again.
President Obama, at a joint press conference with French President François Hollande, cautioned that information about the incident was still emerging and discouraged escalation. He added that Turkey had a "right to defend its territory and its airspace."
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Russia has no idiotic rules of engagement so they can drop their WW2 bombs anywhere they want with no worries about civilian casualties.
That's the best part of letting Putin handle it. No Political Correctness.
The opinions of smelly liberal arts Professors, fat lesbian feminists, and shut in Internet conspiracy theorists will not be highly valued. 8)
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There's a new attack for muscleny to rant about
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How old is the OP? He sounds like a hysterical college student who's taken a couple of poly sci courses. "This is serious guys ..." LOL!
Let me know when the draft gets reinstated. Like the elites are going to let their kids get their hands dirty.
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Russia needs to hire these guys to settle the score
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/y7rpdj.gif)
That one dude is walking like lord piss genova
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Fuck the turks I hope they decimate the whole country now
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Why was the Russian pilot beaten & killed? It would've been smart to have keep the pilots alive.
Because Turks.
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Why was the Russian pilot beaten & killed? It would've been smart to have keep the pilots alive.
No shit. Also, how bad is that, you ditch from a plane thinking you're gonna live only to get mugged by a bunch of terrorists.
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Andre is not as intelligent as you Parker. He cannot see the consequences or even fathom the scope of what's happened.
when are you going to stop being the bottom bitch for Dropping Plates???.......
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when am i going to stop being the bottom bitch for Wellfare, KFC, Grape Drank and Watermelon???.......
When your breed is extinct, Porchie.
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When your breed is extinct, Porchie.
is that all you got, dummy?....you're definitely self-owning yourself ;D
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Andre at it again, scaring people on the streets
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http://theync.com/thekiddd/video-shows-russian-pilot-shot-down-over-turkey-surrounded-by-syrian-rebels-that-mutilate-him.htm (http://theync.com/thekiddd/video-shows-russian-pilot-shot-down-over-turkey-surrounded-by-syrian-rebels-that-mutilate-him.htm)
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Andre at it again, scaring people on the streets
only person I scare is you..thats why you follow me around acting like a fool...calm it down..your idiocy is really self-owning
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http://theync.com/marcochies/russian-pilots-body-surrounded-by-rebels.htm (http://theync.com/marcochies/russian-pilots-body-surrounded-by-rebels.htm)
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only person I scare is you..thats why you follow me around acting like a fool...calm it down..your idiocy is really self-owning
The only thing that is scary is your annual KFC, Grape Drank and Watermelon-consumtion.
Keep it up and you'll get a stroke Porchenegger.
As frightening as those statistics are the risks of getting those diseases are even higher for African-Americans.
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/More/MyHeartandStrokeNews/African-Americans-and-Heart-Disease_UCM_444863_Article.jsp#
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After reading about the situation on BBC, the plane flew over a little piece of Turkey, was actually shot at over Syria, and crashed 4km into Syria. So, how is this not a bad thing for Turkey? They shot down a plane of someone who is a supposed ally in this situation. Pretty fucked up if you aske me.
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After reading about the situation on BBC, the plane flew over a little piece of Turkey, was actually shot at over Syria, and crashed 4km into Syria. So, how is this not a bad thing for Turkey? They shot down a plane of someone who is a supposed ally in this situation. Pretty fucked up if you aske me.
Will be very interesting to see what the next step if from Putin.
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Will be very interesting to see what the next step if from Putin.
Especially after a Russian marine was killed in the rescue attempt.
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Horrible way to die...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068)
LOL. Their small arms fire isn't hitting fuck all from that altitude. The pilots got killed after they hit the ground.
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Will be very interesting to see what the next step if from Putin.
KKK, nazi! ;D
Seriously though, he may need to do something about all of this.
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http://theync.com/marcochies/russian-pilots-body-surrounded-by-rebels.htm (http://theync.com/marcochies/russian-pilots-body-surrounded-by-rebels.htm)
Putin would be livid if he knew that porn sites are showing the video
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Especially after a Russian marine was killed in the rescue attempt.
If Putin doesn't respond by bombing Turkey, the Russian military will oust him.
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If only mark wahlberg was there to help the pilots and seek revenge on the turkmen.
Does Wahlberg have a twitter account? Getbig should twitter bomb his twitter account asking him to go over there and take care of business... :D
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If only mark wahlberg was there to help the pilots and seek revenge on the turkmen.
(http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/MOV_ec21af8a_b.jpg)
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http://www.businessinsider.com/fighter-jet-shot-down-by-turkey-crashes-on-syrian-border-2015-11
Putin will either reply with force or Russians will oust him. They feel humiliated by how America destroyed them with sanctions, humiliated by the attack on the passenger Jet terror attack and now this.
Putin knows his people, they can turn on a dime.
Yet Turkey is a NATO ally making things not so simple.
A Military Draft in the US is right around d the corner, this is serious guys.
They've not been destroyed by sanctions. The West just likes to portray it as such.
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This is a mission for Tom Cruise and Top Gun, screw Mark Walberg!
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KKK, nazi! ;D
Seriously though, he may need to do something about all of this.
You can call me whatever you want Irongrip, as long as Putin retaliates in his best/worst manner! :D ;D
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If Putin doesn't respond by bombing Turkey, the Russian military will oust him.
Plans are being made as we post:
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Plans are being made as we post:
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He's sending in Fedor!!!
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Moscow plans to suspend military cooperation with Ankara after the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkish air forces, Russian General Staff representatives said on Tuesday. Further measures to beef up Russian air base security in Syria will also be taken.
Three steps as announced by top brass:
1. Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets
2. Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger
3. Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended
Sergey Rudskoy, a top official with the Russian General Staff, condemned the attack on the Russian bomber in Syrian airspace by a Turkish fighter jet as “a severe violation of international law”. He stressed that the Su-24 was downed over the Syrian territory. The crash site was four kilometers away from the Turkish border, he said.
Rudskoy said the Russian warplane did not violate Turkish airspace. Additionally, according to the Hmeymim airfield radar, it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber.
The Turkish fighter jet made no attempts to contact Russian pilots before attacking the bomber, Rudskoy added.
“We assume the strike was carried out with a close range missile with an infra-red seeker,” Rudskoy said. “The Turkish jet made no attempts to communicate or establish visual contact with our crew that our equipment would have registered. The Su-24 was hit by a missile over Syria’s territory.”
Russia now plans to implement new measures aimed at strengthening the security of the country’s air base in Syria and in particular to bolster air defense.
Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva, equipped with the ‘Fort’ air defense system, similar to the S-300, will be deployed off Latakia province's coast.
"We warn that every target posing a potential threat will be destroyed,” lieutenant general Sergey Rudskoy said during the briefing.
“All military contacts with Turkey will be suspended,” he added.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW
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Im gonna go over to Turkeyyyyyyy, and the big bad booty daddy is gonna show those Turkistanians who is boss by putting them in the Steiner Recliner
Hollllllllller,.....if you hear me
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Russia needs to hire these guys to settle the score
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too bad they all didn't try to go through the door at the same time. That would've made a great gif
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(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/141C7/production/_86857328_russian_plane_shot_down_624.png)
Moscow plans to suspend military cooperation with Ankara after the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkish air forces, Russian General Staff representatives said on Tuesday. Further measures to beef up Russian air base security in Syria will also be taken.
Three steps as announced by top brass:
1. Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets
2. Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger
3. Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended
Sergey Rudskoy, a top official with the Russian General Staff, condemned the attack on the Russian bomber in Syrian airspace by a Turkish fighter jet as “a severe violation of international law”. He stressed that the Su-24 was downed over the Syrian territory. The crash site was four kilometers away from the Turkish border, he said.
Rudskoy said the Russian warplane did not violate Turkish airspace. Additionally, according to the Hmeymim airfield radar, it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber.
The Turkish fighter jet made no attempts to contact Russian pilots before attacking the bomber, Rudskoy added.
“We assume the strike was carried out with a close range missile with an infra-red seeker,” Rudskoy said. “The Turkish jet made no attempts to communicate or establish visual contact with our crew that our equipment would have registered. The Su-24 was hit by a missile over Syria’s territory.”
Russia now plans to implement new measures aimed at strengthening the security of the country’s air base in Syria and in particular to bolster air defense.
Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva, equipped with the ‘Fort’ air defense system, similar to the S-300, will be deployed off Latakia province's coast.
"We warn that every target posing a potential threat will be destroyed,” lieutenant general Sergey Rudskoy said during the briefing.
“All military contacts with Turkey will be suspended,” he added.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW
This is the graphic I was referring to in my previous post. They weren't even in Turkish airspace when they were shot down. I see this ending bad(or starting bad) within the next month or so unless serious Russian ass is kissed.
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Let's hope this does not escalate.
NATO may well have to Kiss Russian Ass.
Turkish military need a lesson taught them.
Bad move on their part.
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Just like in 1914...the elites will have their war.
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Just like in 1914...the elites will have their war.
While it was a very bad war, it did get rid of a lot of the monarchies... Perhaps this is just what humanity needs to cleanse itself for another 100 years.
Sucks that so many will have to die for it though.
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So whats the story here. The plane was in Turkish air space but somehow got downed In Syrian air space?
So much talk about what a tough guy Putin is. Time for him to show his hand.
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Civilian plane brought down, Military Plane brought down
What happened to MuddaRussia ???
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Civilian plane brought down, Military Plane brought down
What happened to MuddaRussia ???
Putin, clearly, is quite angry. He calls Turkey's actions a "stab in [Russia's] back," and blames the country for enabling ISIS's "barbarous, heinous ways" by allowing it to sell oil in Turkish territory. Most ominously, he threatens "serious consequences" for relations between Russia and Turkey, a NATO ally:
We have long identified that there are a lot of oil and petro products coming to Turkey from [ISIS] territory. And some of these military groups get their financing from there. And now they stab us in the back; they hit our planes that are fighting terrorism. Together with the US partners, we signed an agreement to prevent incidents in the air.
And they announce that they are fighting terrorism as part of the US-led coalition. If ISIS has these amounts of money — and could it be even billions of dollars — due to the sales of oil and plus they have protection of the armed forces of the big state, then now it's clear why they're so blatant, why they kill people in the most barbarous, heinous ways. Why they conduct terrorist attacks in many places, including in the heart of Europe.
Certainly, we will analyze what's happening very seriously, and today's tragic event will have serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations. We have always treated Turkey as not just a close neighbor, but as a friendly state. I don't know in whose interests today's incident is, but it's not in our interest. And instead of immediately establishing the necessary contacting us, the Turkish authorities immediately their NATO partners, as if we downed a Turkish jet.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/24/russian-jet-downed-by-turkish-planes-near-syrian-border-live-updates
US and France call on Turkey and Russia to prevent escalation
Turkey says its jets have shot down a warplane near Syrian border
Russia says an SU-24 fighter jet was shot down over Syria
One jet pilot and marine from rescue helicopter dead, says Russia
Putin’s spokesman calls it ‘a very serious event’
Turkey releases radar images of the jet over its airspace
Nato to hold extraordinary council meeting on Turkey’s request
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Dumb European and US governments supporting the Turks we now have a Muslim nation attacking a Christian nation, lets just hope Putin continues to be smarter than his European and US counterparts and doesn't retaliate excessively and bring on a more serious war. Dumb move, lets face it, they have been played by a bunch of ISIS savages along with their Turkish supporters, we have now in place probably the dumbest set of world leaders ever, they need to focus on the greater enemy but they cant, they have to behave like bitter ex wives trying to get one back on the old foe
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So whats the story here. The plane was in Turkish air space but somehow got downed In Syrian air space?
So much talk about what a tough guy Putin is. Time for him to show his hand.
It doesn't add up. It's like one of these cops that shoots an unarmed kid then tries to cover it up. Turkey has even said that it was only in their airspace for 17 seconds, yet they warned the plane ten times in five minutes? The fucking plane was long gone and they chased it down and shot it. Now, I agree, WWIII shouldn't be started over the deaths of two men. Turkey should be kissing serious Russian ass though for this.
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Paul Craig Roberts, former assistant secretary of the treasury under Reagan gives excellent insight into what's really behind all this.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/
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Horrible way to die...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ae_1448377068)
It reminded me of the game duck hunt..
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Guys, within weeks I can see a military draft in many countries
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151124/1030691269/russia-maritime-air-defense-syria.html
"The General Staff is currently working out additional measures to ensure the security of the Russian air base. First: all actions of strike aircraft will be carried out only under cover of fighter planes. Second: measures will be taken to strengthen defense. To this end, the cruiser Moskva, equipped with Fort air defense system, similar to S-300, will assume position in the coastal region of Latakia. We caution that any targets, representing a potential danger for us, will be destroyed. Third: Contacts with Turkey on military lines will be discontinued."
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Here's the deal brah
http://tass.ru/en/politics/838825
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SOCHI, November 24. /TASS/. Russia will not tolerate crimes like the attack on the Russian Su-24 fighter jet shot down by the Turkish Air Force in Syrian skies, President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday at a meeting with King of Jordan Abdullah II.
"I understand each country has its own regional interests, and we have always respected that. But we shall never tolerate crimes like today's one," the president said.
Attack against Russian Sukhoi-24 was not accidental, says retired general
The Russian leader stressed that the downed fighter-bomber was posing no threat to Turkey.
"Our pilots and jet posed no threat to the Turkish Republic. This is obvious. They were conducting an operation against ISIL," Putin said.
He stressed the plane was flying above northern Lattakia where militants coming from Russia are concentrated.
"The Russian bomber was shot down over Syria by an air-to-air surface fired from a Turkish F-16 plane when the bomber was at an altitude of 6,000 meters at a distance of 1 km from the Turkish bomber." Putin said.
"They [the pilots] were fulfilling their task," the president stressed adding that they were delivering preventive air strikes on terrorists who can come back to Russia at any moment.
Putin called the attack a crime and stressed that Russia would not tolerate it.
According to the president, the Su-24 plane crash in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back delivered by terrorist accomplices."
"Today’s loss is linked with a stab in our back delivered by terrorism accomplices.
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Turkey had been complaining constantly that RUSSIA was bombing their people, not ISIS.
everyone agrees RUS was in their airspace now.
the 2 pilots were beaten to death.
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Paul Craig Roberts, former assistant secretary of the treasury under Reagan gives excellent insight into what's really behind all this.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/
What a master of contradictions. First he blasts Obama for supporting ISIS, claiming that leaves Parisian blood on Obama's hands and makes us complicit in terrorism and then he somehow convolutes Palestinians terrorism against Israelis, twisting the narrative into Israel having blood on its hands for shooting Palestinians who stab innocent Israelis to death.
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Come one hurry up and burn Turkey!
Blow something up, light up their navy perhaps.
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Come one hurry up and burn Turkey!
Blow something up, light up their navy perhaps.
I know hey,...someone blow some shit up over there. This no response bullshit is weak
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I know hey,...someone blow some shit up over there. This no response bullshit is weak
Erdogan is the problem, Putin needs to dedicate all his troops to capture this hitler and rid the world of the biggest ISIS enabler on the planet.
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Turkey had been complaining constantly that RUSSIA was bombing their people, not ISIS.
everyone agrees RUS was in their airspace now.
the 2 pilots were beaten to death.
BBC reported they were only in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds, and were shot down while in Syrian airspace. How does this justify shooting down the plane. They are also reporting one of the pilots is alive and well. Either way, Putin can't stand for this, rings and asses need kissing to make this right.
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What do you fuckers want? You all cry about Syrians invading Europe -- yet you want Turkey invaded and bombed, which would cause the several million Syrian refugees in Turkey PLUS who knows how many Turks, to run to Europe. Is it really that hard to think something through before attempting to sound tough?
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What a master of contradictions. First he blasts Obama for supporting ISIS, claiming that leaves Parisian blood on Obama's hands and makes us complicit in terrorism and then he somehow convolutes Palestinians terrorism against Israelis, twisting the narrative into Israel having blood on its hands for shooting Palestinians who stab innocent Israelis to death.
He's a leftist economist who worked for Reagan for one year and uses that as cover for the last 35 years of spouting Marxist ideology.
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Lavrov just announced Russia is not going to do much, no WWIII just yet. Question is at what point do the Ruskies feel their leader is a weakling?
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151125/1030722974/russia-foreign-ministry-lavrov-press-su24.html
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Putin has a point, the government of Turkey are terrorist sympathisers......
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Putin has a point, the government of Turkey are terrorist sympathisers......
He has many great points and so do many talk and tv show hosts. Is that what he is now, a talk show host? He needs to capture the Turkish leadership and put them on trial.
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Oh I'm not justifying it. I'd like to see them all waste each other.
Russia moved missiles 30 miles away now, cnn reports. Try that again, it'll get ugly
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So whats the story here. The plane was in Turkish air space but somehow got downed In Syrian air space?
So much talk about what a tough guy Putin is. Time for him to show his hand.
Agreed....Putin is getting his ass burned in Syria.....first the Russian airliner being blown from the sky...now this with a Russian fighter plane blown from the sky as well.....easy to talk shit but really he can't do anything....his military would be destroyed in a confrontation with NATO..also his military is supposedly taking some casualties in syria as well but they are being covered up..just like the heavy casualties his military took in Ukraine that they tried to cover up as well but the soldiers were posting onto facebook
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Dumb European and US governments supporting the Turks we now have a Muslim nation attacking a Christian nation, lets just hope Putin continues to be smarter than his European and US counterparts and doesn't retaliate excessively and bring on a more serious war. Dumb move, lets face it, they have been played by a bunch of ISIS savages along with their Turkish supporters, we have now in place probably the dumbest set of world leaders ever, they need to focus on the greater enemy but they cant, they have to behave like bitter ex wives trying to get one back on the old foe
The dumbest world leader is Putin...who has miscalculated very badly and now finds himself in a shitload of trouble...economy wrecked due to oil prices and sanctions...bogged down in Syria and in Ukraine.......Russian airliner shot down.....Russian figheter shot down...and also Russia is responsible for that airline shot down over the Ukraine a few months ago.....
Also Russia is FAR from being a Christian nation....Russia has been invading the airspace of other countries with impunity......They have done this to Britain as well....it all has come back to bite Putin in the ass
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What do you fuckers want? You all cry about Syrians invading Europe -- yet you want Turkey invaded and bombed, which would cause the several million Syrian refugees in Turkey PLUS who knows how many Turks, to run to Europe. Is it really that hard to think something through before attempting to sound tough?
Agreed...good point
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Was never in Turkish Airspace
http://sputniknews.com/military/20151124/1030695406/mod-su-24-flight-path.html#ixzz3sRbBWsbD
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"Nuclear War Over Turkey Shooting Down Russian Jet ‘Likely’ – Russia’s Top Defense Analyst"
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/russia-vs-turkey-nuclear-war-likely/
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Turkey has gone full kebab.
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"Nuclear War Over Turkey Shooting Down Russian Jet ‘Likely’ – Russia’s Top Defense Analyst"
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/russia-vs-turkey-nuclear-war-likely/
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Wow.
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Agreed....Putin is getting his ass burned in Syria.....first the Russian airliner being blown from the sky...now this with a Russian fighter plane blown from the sky as well.....easy to talk shit but really he can't do anything....his military would be destroyed in a confrontation with NATO..also his military is supposedly taking some casualties in syria as well but they are being covered up..just like the heavy casualties his military took in Ukraine that they tried to cover up as well but the soldiers were posting onto facebook
I don't think NATO would do shit if Putin pressed the issue, I don't think USA has the desire to get involved, and if we don't show up, the rest don't do shit. It would be Munich all over again. Also, the plane, even if it was in Turkish airspace, was not when it was shot down. It was said to be in airspace for 17 seconds and was shot down well behind Syrian lines. Not cool on Turkeys part.
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the u.s aint going to do shit. guaranteed.
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"Nuclear War Over Turkey Shooting Down Russian Jet ‘Likely’ – Russia’s Top Defense Analyst"
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/russia-vs-turkey-nuclear-war-likely/
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the u.s aint going to do shit. guaranteed.
the U.S. won't have to do shit because Russia won't do shit either...its that simple..the U.S. would devastate Russia in a non-nuclear war......the U.S. has a world wide military...the Russians are a European land power
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Supplying the Muslims in Germany
(ANSA) - Trieste, November 26 - Italian police on Thursday seized some 800 pump-action rifles heading from Turkey to Germany, Netherlands and Belgium at the northeastern port of Trieste. The weapons were being transported, without authorisation, in a Dutch truck driven by a Turkish national, police said. The load comprised 781 Winchester SXP models and 66 Winchester SXP rifles. The Turkish maker of the weapons was cited for breaching national security regulations. Controls at Italian ports have been stepped up in the wake of the November 13 Paris terror attacks.
http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2015/11/26/800-rifles-seized-in-trieste-2_5db8ab72-66cf-4aa8-956b-ed42fffaa01d.html
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"Nuclear War Over Turkey Shooting Down Russian Jet ‘Likely’ – Russia’s Top Defense Analyst"
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/russia-vs-turkey-nuclear-war-likely/
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That claim that Russia's top defense analyst said "Nucular war is likely" is laughable. Pure rubbish.
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Russia on Thursday said its forces had wiped out Syrian rebel groups operating in the area where one of its jets was brought down, unleashing a huge bombardment after rescuing a pilot.
"As soon as our pilot was safe, Russian bombers and artillery of the Syrian government forces carried out massive strikes in the indicated area for an extended period," military official Igor Konashenkov told Russian news agencies.
"The terrorists operating in that area and other mysterious groups of peace were destroyed," he said. Konashenkov added that the Russian strikes helped Syrian ground forces take control of the mountainous area in the north of the Latakia province.
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-destroyed-syria-rebels-area-where-jet-174019543.html
Erdogan backtracking of Peace
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Thursday that Turkey would have acted differently if it had known a warplane its forces downed on the Syrian border was Russian.
He also said that Russian President Vladimir Putin had not answered his call after Tuesday's incident that has seriously damaged ties between two rival players in the Syrian conflict.
"I called Mr Putin but until now he never answered my call," he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-acted-differently-had-known-jet-russian-erdogan-172306416.html
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Russia on Thursday said its forces had wiped out Syrian rebel groups operating in the area where one of its jets was brought down, unleashing a huge bombardment after rescuing a pilot.
"As soon as our pilot was safe, Russian bombers and artillery of the Syrian government forces carried out massive strikes in the indicated area for an extended period," military official Igor Konashenkov told Russian news agencies.
"The terrorists operating in that area and other mysterious groups of peace were destroyed," he said. Konashenkov added that the Russian strikes helped Syrian ground forces take control of the mountainous area in the north of the Latakia province.
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-destroyed-syria-rebels-area-where-jet-174019543.html
Erdogan backtracking of Peace
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Thursday that Turkey would have acted differently if it had known a warplane its forces downed on the Syrian border was Russian.
He also said that Russian President Vladimir Putin had not answered his call after Tuesday's incident that has seriously damaged ties between two rival players in the Syrian conflict.
"I called Mr Putin but until now he never answered my call," he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-acted-differently-had-known-jet-russian-erdogan-172306416.html
outdated info
today Turkey warned Russia not to play with fire
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/27/us-mideast-crisis-turkey-russia-erdogan-idUSKBN0TG18K20151127
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That claim that Russia's top defense analyst said "Nucular war is likely" is laughable. Pure rubbish.
Agreed