var

[pugalist666]

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[trab]

Your going to get poor if any results on a orals only cycle. Need a inj to smooth out the spikes of the short 1/2 life orals. Waste of var.

Want mild? Tprop or Stan inj's(100eod  + your var for 8-16 wks. no PCt needed unless ya get nipple itch during your on time w/ the TP.

[Rimbaud]

would sustanan be okay instead of prop and stan ?

The Sust would replace the Prop. But IMO it would be fine. You might not like the stan injections.

[trab]

I take it you want a "mild" cycle. In that respect SUS releases more slowly, over a 21 day period..
But it depends HOW MUCH of it ya take. There is no free ride. Ya got to take enough to do somthing.
SUs is versital in that way. It was designed to give a lower dose over a long period of time. But taking 4cc at a whack changes that.

less than 500mg Sus / wk is a wast IMO.

The prop dont aromatize to near the extent of Sus. Stan aromatize not at all.
No water retention either.

[Rimbaud]

less than 500mg Sus / wk is a wast IMO.

Agreed.

[trab]

Agreed.

Everybody lookin for a free ride. THERE AINT NO SUTCH THING.
The stuff that works the best has some sides they need learn to deal with.

[Rimbaud]

Everybody lookin for a free ride. THERE AINT NO SUTCH THING.
The stuff that works the best has some sides they need learn to deal with.

Amen. There's always risks, a price, whatever. Nothings free &/or easy. Lots want to try gear for the muscle gains but no one wants the sides - you got to take the good with the bad.

[Arnold jr]

isant 500mg  a week alot ?

No, not at all. It's higher then HRT doses but those are designed to get a person back to normal, you're wanting to go beyond normal...at least that should be the idea or it's not worth it.

Amen. There's always risks, a price, whatever. Nothings free &/or easy. Lots want to try gear for the muscle gains but no one wants the sides - you got to take the good with the bad.

Agreed...but in most cases the good outweighs the bad IMO.

[Rimbaud]

Agreed...but in most cases the good outweighs the bad IMO.

Most defidently.

[trab]

If you know what your doing, the worst side effect should be buying all new clothing.