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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #650 on: October 13, 2009, 10:54:01 AM »
whens the bill for males who want to go into female locker rooms and change in there going to get passed?

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #651 on: October 13, 2009, 04:55:31 PM »
whens the bill for males who want to go into female locker rooms and change in there going to get passed?

Get it on a ballot!!!!

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #652 on: October 14, 2009, 07:25:32 AM »
Calif governor signs gay marriage recognition bill

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill recognizing gay marriages sanctioned in other states during the nearly five months such unions were legal in California.

Schwarzenegger says the action is consistent with a state Supreme Court ruling upholding the marriages of same-sex couples who tied the knot in California before voters approved Proposition 8.

Proposition 8 is a constitutional amendment passed in November that limits marriage to a man and a woman.

The bill signed by the governor late Sunday also says gay and lesbian couples who were married in other states after Proposition 8's passage have the same rights and benefits that California grants domestic partners.

The bill was sponsored by Democratic Sen. Mark Leno of San Francisco.

It appears that Arnold is desperate for supporters, considering his near-rock-bottom approval ratings. When his ratings were high, he vetoed TWO gay "marriage" bills, saying that the issue should be settled by the people.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #653 on: October 14, 2009, 07:58:53 AM »
It appears that Arnold is desperate for supporters, considering his near-rock-bottom approval ratings. When his ratings were high, he vetoed TWO gay "marriage" bills, saying that the issue should be settled by the people.
Yep.  Goes to show that most politicians will do anything to get a vote.  The President is trying to appease the gay community now as he was the keynote speaker of the Human Rights Campaign last week.  And now he's taking it a step further by nominating Chai R. Feldblum as the chairman for the EEOC. Check out her philosophy:


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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #654 on: October 14, 2009, 08:01:41 AM »
Yep.  Goes to show that most politicians will do anything to get a vote.  The President is trying to appease the gay community now as he was the keynote speaker of the Human Rights Campaign last week.  And now he's taking it a step further by nominating Chai R. Feldblum as the chairman for the EEOC. Check out her philosophy:



Yet, this is the SAME guy who, when asked point-blank by Pastor Rick Warren what the definiton of marriage was, claimed it was between one man and one woman.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #655 on: October 14, 2009, 08:04:30 AM »
SB 572, opposed by overwhelming majority, signed by “People’s Governor”

Sacramento – SaveCalifornia.com, a leading West Coast pro-family, pro-child organization, is appalled that Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed SB 572, “Harvey Milk Day,” into law.

“Harvey Milk* was a sexual predator of teens, an advocate of polygamous relationships, a public liar, and is in no way a good role model for impressionable schoolchildren,” said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com. “Sadly, children in public schools will now have even more in-your-face, homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination. This provides the strongest impetus yet for loving parents to remove their children from anti-family public schools.”

“’Harvey Milk Day’ teaches children as young as five years old to admire the life and values of the notorious homosexual activist Harvey Milk” said Thomasson. “The ‘suitable commemorative exercises’ that are part of ‘Harvey Milk Day’ can easily result in cross-dressing exercises, ‘LGBT pride’ parades and mock gay weddings on school campuses -- everything Harvey Milk supported.”

Schwarzenegger vetoed ‘Harvey Milk Day” last year; he signed it this year. The Governor also previously claimed to oppose same-sex “marriage,” but now supports destroying the definition of marriage as only between a man and a woman, in court, and by his signing of SB 54, to recognize out-of-state homosexual “marriages” in violation of Proposition 8.

For several months, SaveCalifornia.com has been leading parents and grandparents to call, email, fax, and petition Governor Schwarzenegger to veto “Harvey Milk Day.” The clear majority of correspondence to the Governor was opposed to SB 572. As a whole, Californians are 4 to 1 against the notion of statewide day of significance honoring the San Francisco gay activist.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #656 on: October 14, 2009, 08:05:29 AM »
some facts on the bill:

BILL FACTS: SB 572 would establish every May 22 as "Harvey Milk Day" in K-12 public schools in California. Children would be taught to admire the life and values of late homosexual activist Harvey Milk, of whom the bill states: "...perhaps more than any other modern figure, Harvey Milk's life and political career embody the rise of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights movement in California, across the nation, and throughout the world."

Under SB 572, children would perform "suitable commemorative exercises," remembering the "life," "accomplishments," and "contributions" of Harvey Milk -- in other words, the entire homosexual-bisexual-transsexual agenda for which Milk advocated. There is no definition or limit to these "exercises," which could include gay pride parades, cross-dressing contests and mock gay weddings, or anything else Milk supported.

According to the reputable biography, "The Mayor of Castro Street: The Life and Times of Harvey Milk," Harvey Milk repeatedly engaged in adult-child sex, advocated for polygamous homosexual relationships, and told a very public lie because he thought it would get him ahead. Since SB 572 would do "excerises remembering the life of Harvey Milk," kids could be taught to support and emulate these very bad values.

SB 572 would affect children as young as kindergarten. There is no parental notification or consent written into the bill.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #657 on: October 14, 2009, 08:07:13 AM »
more info about Harvey Milk:

A SEXUAL PREDATOR OF TEENS

Randy Shilts, a homosexual San Francisco Chronicle reporter, wrote a favorable and sordid biography of Milk in "The Mayor of Castro Street." The 1982 book detailed Milk's sexual relationships with a 16-year-old, a 19-year-old and other young men:

"...sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure...At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him." (pages 30-31)

"It would be to boyish-looking men in their late teens and early 20's that Milk would be attracted for the rest of his life." (page 24)

"Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems." (page 180)

"Harvey confided one night that at twenty-four, Doug was the oldest man Harvey had ever started an affair with." (page 237)

ADVOCATED MULTIPLE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS AT THE SAME TIME

Explaining Milk's many flings and affairs with teenagers and young men, Randy Shilts writes how Milk told one "lover" why it was OK for him to also have multiple relationships simultaneously:

"As homosexuals, we can't depend on the heterosexual model...We grow up with the heterosexual model, but we don't have to follow it. We should be developing our own life-style. There's no reason why you can't love more than one person at a time. You don't have to love them all the same. You love some less, love some more -- and always be honest with everybody about where you're at. They in turn can do the same thing and it can open up a bigger sphere." (pages 237-238)

PUBLICLY LIED FOR YEARS ABOUT HIS MILITARY CAREER

"He had not suffered this disgrace, he told a later campaign manager, but he knew the story would make good copy. If anyone said something to Harvey about his fondness for such stunts, he would gesture wildly as launched into a lecture. 'Symbols, symbols, symbols,' he insisted. Sure, he had not been kicked out of the military...The point of the story was to let people know that service people routinely do get kicked out. Besides, he once confided, 'Maybe people will read it, feel sorry for me, and then vote for me.'" (Randy Shilts, The Mayor of Castro Street, p. 78-79)

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #658 on: October 14, 2009, 08:31:11 AM »
It appears that Arnold is desperate for supporters, considering his near-rock-bottom approval ratings. When his ratings were high, he vetoed TWO gay "marriage" bills, saying that the issue should be settled by the people.

All politicians are whores, MC. Every last one of them.

The above being true, whatever harm that comes from recognizing out of state marriages is negligible.... until California residents start getting married in other states en-masse and demanding recognition. :)

New York recognizes out of state marriages. I haven't seen any negative effects but really don't closely follow most politics.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #659 on: October 14, 2009, 08:37:21 AM »
All politicians are whores, MC. Every last one of them.

The above being true, whatever harm that comes from recognizing out of state marriages is negligible.... until California residents start getting married in other states en-masse and demanding recognition. :)

New York recognizes out of state marriages. I haven't seen any negative effects but really don't closely follow most politics.


I guess Arnold just got another pimp.

And the worst part of all, for me....MY BIRTHDAY IS May 22nd.

I may need some counseling, after this one.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #660 on: October 14, 2009, 07:57:38 PM »


I guess Arnold just got another pimp.

And the worst part of all, for me....MY BIRTHDAY IS May 22nd.

I may need some counseling, after this one.

Maybe you can watch some Judy Garland movies to celebrate their special day. :)

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #661 on: December 15, 2009, 04:47:05 PM »
DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage
By JESSICA GRESKO, Associated Press Writer

After suffering setbacks from California to New York, Maine to New Jersey, same-sex marriage supporters got a victory Tuesday with the City Council's vote to legalize gay marriage in the District of Columbia.

Gay couples could begin tying the knot in the district as early as March. The only hurdles left to clear are the city's mayor, who has promised to sign the bill, and Congress, which has final say over laws in the nation's capital. The district's nonvoting delegate to Congress, Eleanor Holmes Norton, said she expects no opposition there.

"Make no mistake, 2009 has been one hell of a year for marriage equality," said David Catania, who introduced the bill and is one of two openly gay council members.

Council members said that it was symbolic that the nation's capital had voted to pass gay marriage. But the city is also in many ways not representative of the nation. More than three quarters of the voters in the city of 600,000 are registered Democrats.

Patrick J. Egan, a professor of politics at New York University, called the city "the most liberal and Democratic-party-dominated jurisdiction in the United States."

Congress now has 30 working days to act on the bill, but it has rejected legislation just three times in the past 25 years.

"I believe I have assurances that the barn door is locked," said Norton, a Democrat who called the legislation "historic" and said she was "proud" of the council.

Tuesday's 11-2 vote was no surprise. Two members voted "I do" when their names came up, and when the vote finished a packed chamber erupted into cheers and applause. The "no" votes included former Mayor Marion Barry, now a council member.

If the bill becomes law, the district will join Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts and Vermont in issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. They will be able to wed in New Hampshire starting in January.

Gay marriage supporters have had less success elsewhere recently. Maine voters overturned the state's same-sex marriage law last month. Earlier this month, the New York state Senate rejected a bill that would have allowed gay couples to marry.

The New Jersey Legislature, which had been working on a same-sex marriage bill, postponed a recent vote when the measure appeared headed for defeat. Sponsors now want the Assembly to consider it first, but that probably won't happen until after the new year, if at all.

Tuesday's vote in the district came after several months of discussion, including two marathon council hearings at which some 250 witnesses testified.

Opponents included the Archdiocese of Washington. The Archdiocese said it might have to stop providing adoptions and other services because the law would force it to extend benefits to same-sex couples, violating church beliefs.

But most who testified were supporters. Some, teary-eyed, asked the council to let friends, relatives or themselves marry. One man proposed to his partner during his testimony.

Opponents, however, said the issue is far from settled. Members of a group called Stand4Marriage, led by local pastor Bishop Harry Jackson, have met with members of Congress to urge them to oppose the bill.

An attorney for the group, Cleta Mitchell, said that after the bill goes to Congress, the group will ask the district's board of elections to allow a referendum on the ballot asking voters to overturn it.

But they face an uphill battle.

The group Mitchell represents made a similar request this summer, when the city passed a law recognizing gay marriages legally performed in other states. The board declined to put the issue on the ballot, citing a city human rights law that bars discrimination.

Jackson said Tuesday he believes this time the group has an "airtight legal case."

"If it gets to the vote, we win," he said, referencing the other states where residents overturned same-sex marriage laws.

The group also has another avenue of attack. It has lawsuit pending from earlier this year, when it tried to get an initiative on the ballot in D.C. asking voters to define marriage as between a man and a woman. There, too, the elections board cited the human rights law in keeping it off the ballot. A hearing in that case is scheduled for January.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #662 on: January 05, 2010, 09:22:07 AM »
Mexico City moves to legalize same-sex marriage
Legislature passes a bill giving gay couples the right to marry, adopt children and enjoy the same status as heterosexual couples. The Catholic Church and conservatives speak out against it.
By Tracy Wilkinson
Reporting from Mexico City

In a move that may put Mexico City at odds with the rest of the country, the local legislature approved a far-reaching gay rights bill Monday, voting to allow people of the same sex to marry and to adopt children.

The leftist-dominated legislature of this massive city of about 20 million people turned aside opposition from the influential Roman Catholic Church and ended lively debate to approve the measure by a 39-20 vote. Mayor Marcelo Ebrard is expected to sign the bill into law.

"Mexico City has put itself in the vanguard," said legislator Victor Hugo Romo. "This is a historic day."

Mexico City's initiative goes further than any other in Latin America by rewriting the law to redefine marriage as a "free union between two people," not only between a man and a woman. It gives homosexual couples the same rights as heterosexual pairs, including the right to adopt, inherit, obtain joint housing loans and share insurance policies.

Several countries, most of them in Europe, and a handful of U.S. states have legalized same-sex marriage in recent years, and the issue is being hotly debated in parts of predominantly Roman Catholic Latin America. Uruguay was the first Latin American nation to recognize same-sex unions, as well as adoptions by gay couples, and some cities in Argentina have adopted similar laws.

Proponents praised the bill as helping remove the stigma and discriminatory practices that hurt gays, while opponents decried what they called an affront to the institution of family.

"This is wonderful," gay rights activist Judith Vasquez said from the noisy legislature floor, where proponents chanted, "Yes, we could!" and waved rainbow flags. Gay "couples have effectively been together for years, decades, centuries," she said. "But now it is our right."

Most of the opposition in the city's legislature came from President Felipe Calderon's conservative National Action Party, which has threatened to take the city to court if Ebrard does not veto the measure.

Also opposed was the Roman Catholic Church, which labeled the proposal immoral, saying marriage must hold the promise of procreation. Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera said the law created the "perverse possibility" that "innocent children" would be adopted by gay couples.

"It is an aberration," said activist Jorge Serrano Limon. "Marriage cannot be between men. That is absurd."

Mexico City, as a rule, is less conservative than much of the rest of the country, relatively open to sexual freedoms and expressions.

Under Ebrard and his Democratic Revolution Party, or PRD, which controls the legislature, Mexico City has been at the forefront of social policy, often taking stances a far distance from other parts of the country.

The city, for example, legalized abortion in 2007, a decision that has since backfired and prompted states across Mexico to dig in their heels against abortion.

"They have given Mexicans a very bitter Christmas," Armando Martinez Gomez, president of the College of Catholic Attorneys, told The Times. "They have eliminated the word 'father' and 'mother.' "

It was unclear when Ebrard planned to sign the gay rights bill into law, and Martinez called on the mayor to veto the bill.

He noted that it went even further than the city executive had intended when legislators removed a clause that would have forbidden adoption. PAN lawmakers also demanded that Ebrard exercise his veto.

Martinez and other opponents had sought a citywide referendum on the issue, similar to the one California held last year, instead of a vote in the legislature. He said surveys taken by his organization showed overwhelming opposition to same-sex marriage. (Another survey published last week by the Reforma newspaper showed opinion more evenly divided.)

He also predicted a backlash against gays. "There will be repercussions, the unleashing of homophobia. Ours is not a very tolerant society."

Before Monday's vote, Mexico City already had on the books a law that allowed a kind of legal union between unmarried people, under which they could avail themselves of a limited number of services and benefits. Only 680 couples have done so since the law took effect in 2007.

It was unclear how many gays and lesbians might be expected to rush to the altar (or, as required in Mexico, the judge's chambers).

"For centuries, unfair laws prohibited marriage between whites and blacks, between Europeans and Indians," legislator Romo, of the PRD, said. "Today, all the barriers have disappeared."

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #663 on: January 05, 2010, 09:37:58 AM »
when is the rally for opposite sex locker rooms?  ::)

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #664 on: January 05, 2010, 09:43:16 AM »
when is the rally for opposite sex locker rooms?  ::)

Gay marriage is simply a distraction for getting people to focus on important issues, especially in CA, like their inevitable default and bankruptcy due to the ridiculous welfare state and govt spending it continues. 

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #665 on: January 05, 2010, 10:04:29 AM »
Nasty. Completely disgusting.

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #666 on: January 05, 2010, 10:58:56 AM »
when is the rally for opposite sex locker rooms?  ::)

when everyones married
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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #667 on: January 05, 2010, 11:03:24 AM »
when everyones married

The only people I see benefitting from gay marriage are divorce lawyers. 

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #668 on: January 05, 2010, 11:07:04 AM »
Nasty. Completely disgusting.

What'd else do you expect from left-winged governments, who pass such things without letting the people have a voice in the matter?

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« Reply #669 on: January 05, 2010, 11:13:17 AM »
What'd else do you expect from left-winged governments, who pass such things without letting the people have a voice in the matter?

Not to mention the Education Czar Jennings. 

As far as CA and gay marraige, its a perfect example of why this entire country is falling apart.  We spend tons of time, money, and effort on bs like this while ignoring the barbarians at the gates and fiscal ruin the welfare state guarantees, just like Rome. 

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« Reply #670 on: January 05, 2010, 11:20:31 AM »
Not to mention the Education Czar Jennings. 

As far as CA and gay marraige, its a perfect example of why this entire country is falling apart.  We spend tons of time, money, and effort on bs like this while ignoring the barbarians at the gates and fiscal ruin the welfare state guarantees, just like Rome. 

The religious nutjobs like the mormons seem to be the ones spending the most money.  :-X

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« Reply #671 on: January 05, 2010, 11:25:50 AM »
Not to mention the Education Czar Jennings. 

As far as CA and gay marraige, its a perfect example of why this entire country is falling apart.  We spend tons of time, money, and effort on bs like this while ignoring the barbarians at the gates and fiscal ruin the welfare state guarantees, just like Rome. 

Yes because money is more important than rights for citizens.  What are you a slave owner from the 1800's.
Abandon every hope...

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #672 on: January 05, 2010, 11:26:19 AM »
The religious nutjobs like the mormons seem to be the ones spending the most money.  :-X

Whoever the hell it is, the govt of CA is in the worst shape of all the states.  Why is that?  

The govts on all levels, fed, state, city, town are mostly broke and simply cant afford to waste all this time on gay marriage.  Its a non issue IMHO.  

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Re: California Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #673 on: January 05, 2010, 11:27:54 AM »
Yes because money is more important than rights for citizens.  What are you a slave owner from the 1800's.

Idiot.  When you are starving, broke, homeless, and destitute, you will accept any chains the govt hands to you in return for a meal. 

And yes, the fiscal stability on the nation, state, and taxpayers trump gay marriage.   

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« Reply #674 on: January 05, 2010, 11:28:01 AM »
The religious nutjobs like the mormons seem to be the ones spending the most money.  :-X

Oh really??

Last time I checked, in California, the No on 8 campaign spend MORE money than those who supported the marriage amendment ($43 million to $40 million).

Check last year's "People's Veto" on Maine's gay "marriage" law (Amendment 1). Final numbers: No on 1 - $4 million; Yes on 1 - $2.6 million.

And, in Florida, the claim goes that Amendment 2 opponents spend THREE TIMES as much money as Amendment 2 supporters.

Yet, despite all that spending, gay "marriage" supporters LOST in all three ballot races.