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I checked the wwe site and unfortunately yet understandably they don't accept ideas/angles from fans.
Mine
1. It's a minor thing but Roman needs new wrestling gear. He looks like he is still in the shield. Plus he's a good looking guy with a great body (no homo) and should show it off.
2. They need to take some divas and give Bray Wyatt a harem. Start with one then slowly add to it. Would be great for the character since he has so many similarities to Manson. I think this could be a nice running angle for a good amount of time especially since he split with Rowan and Harper.
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How about they stop building people up then jobbing them out.
Damien Sandow - had a good thing with Miz, yes the feud is over BUT, jobbing him with Axel
Neville - he is in a feud with Barrett, yes this is good but he will continue to loose.
Rusev - huge push all last year only to be jobbed to Cena this whole year..
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LOSE THE PG BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start airing RAW at 10pm and run a 2 hour show till midnight.
And finally, stop force feeding guys like Roman Reigns who simply are NOT READY down our throats.
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Stop starting Raw with a 15 minute talk segment. I tune out half way through.
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cena still carries the banner,he's top performer/slot/air time..he looks great still and does his thing,do I compare his popularity or character like Hogan's prime 'no way'hogan was still the best ever in terms of carrying a show..orton is great heel/face/spoiler but he seem's disinterested in what goes on in terms of ass kissing I could be wrong..now that yes,yes,yes bryant is on the shelf there promoting that one guy from the shield 'the one with the bad wet hair...
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Kevin Owens is fat. They should make him go to the gym and use the treadmill.
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There is no saving this shit.
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It's funny I was thinking the other day that roman reigns is not getting over as a face and needs to turn heel ASAP, the I read on the Internet that steve Austin said pretty much the same thing.
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There is no saving this shit.
Truer words have never been spoken.
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I kinda like Heath Slater, I wish they would give him a little push.
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Kevin Owens is fat. They should make him go to the gym and use the treadmill.
He's fat but the guy can wrestle and he can cut decent promos. Problem is the lower tier guys are afraid to use gas because they do not want to run the risk of getting caught and then publicized to the entire north american audience. Hence the shitty look and the layers of fat on these guys.
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He's fat but the guy can wrestle and he can cut decent promos. Problem is the lower tier guys are afraid to use gas because they do not want to run the risk of getting caught and then publicized to the entire north american audience. Hence the shitty look and the layers of fat on these guys.
And Neville is all natural??
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And Neville is all natural??
I never said he was. Give it time and he'll either:
a) Fail the piss test and be made a scapegoat for the Wellness policy.
b) Injure the shit out of himself with his way over the top style and right himself off.
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And Neville is all natural??
Just saw a house show that opened with Bo Dallas and Neville and all I kept wondering was how Neville could pass a drug test. His build reminds me of Benoit's, short squat guy with thickness while staying lean.
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Just saw a house show that opened with Bo Dallas and Neville and all I kept wondering was how Neville could pass a drug test. His build reminds me of Benoit's, short squat guy with thickness while staying lean.
YEAH,,if u remember british bulldog dynamite kid him too good shape and ripped full chest/delts.
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YEAH,,if u remember british bulldog dynamite kid him too good shape and ripped full chest/delts.
Even better comparison. Thick, squatty build with still very lean.
Clock is ticking on the failed drug test. Probably waiting to build up his name before they lower the hammer, so it looks like they bust their stars.
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I'd bet that not a single prominent male wwe wrestler is natty.
Cesaro?
Ryback? Lmao
Reigns?
Sheamus?
Orton?
Cena?
Big E?
Titus O'neil?
Rollins?
Ambrose?
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I'd bet that not a single prominent male wwe wrestler is natty.
Cesaro?
Ryback? Lmao
Reigns?
Sheamus?
Orton?
Cena?
Big E?
Titus O'neil?
Rollins?
Ambrose?
Ambrose could be natty easily. Rollins it's possible but probably not.
Sheamus seems to have gotten a little smaller and softer lately.
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More suggestions I have:
-turn Rollins face. He's great in the ring but terrible on the mic, needs someone to do the talking for him. I don't think he's hopeless, he can improve but right now not so great.
-See Mick Foleys social media post about Divas needing a Pipe bomb.
- Push Ambrose. They kinda are but he's just great in the ring and also character/promo wise. Potential for lots of great stuff.
-why is the Uso on commentary? He never says anything and when he does he's not that great.
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Raw announcers suck. Michael Cole is ok but get rid of Bradshaw. Great raw tonight 8/24 but horrible announcing.
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Raw announcers suck. Michael Cole is ok but get rid of Bradshaw. Great raw tonight 8/24 but horrible announcing.
Honestly, I hate them all... I actually liked Booker T because he would say something random and crazy and I would laugh, but I can't stand Layfield or Cole... Saxton I don't care for either, but he hasn't been around long enough for me to hate.
The worst part is that they are all better than Josh Matthews. :-\
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Here is my prediction/what I would do for tonight's Night of Champions.
I would have Rollins lose the U.S. title to Cena. Then for the main event I would have sting win the world title then immediately Shaemus comes out and cashes in the mib and wins the title from Sting.
This does a couple things:
1) gives Sting his WWE championship without having him needing to hold the belt long because he is so part time.
2) Allows Rollins to have his match with Triple H where the title is not the issue but rather their rivalry.
3) Rollins and Shaemus can later feud over the WWE championship.
And I think it almost goes without saying that we all believe Rollins will drop the U.S. strap to Cena.
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It sounds feasible except that Shaemus is so not over, and the WWE is having television ratings issues.
There's just nothing interesting or compelling about him.
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Sham-Wow sucks.
I find nothing compelling about him at all. No matter what he does, he will never be over.
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I haven't followed wrestling super close the last several years so I have a question, has anyone ever cashed in the mib briefcase and not won the title?
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I haven't followed wrestling super close the last several years so I have a question, has anyone ever cashed in the mib briefcase and not won the title?
YES!
2 people... sort of .
Mr. Kennedy won it, then lost it to Edge, who cashed it in and won and Damian Sandow won it and lost when he tried to cash it in.
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Sham-Wow sucks.
I find nothing compelling about him at all. No matter what he does, he will never be over.
The silly Mohawk and rubber bands in his beard screams of a guy trying way too hard and still failing.
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The silly Mohawk and rubber bands in his beard screams of a guy trying way too hard and still failing.
Reminds me of old etchings of Black Beard the Pirate.
Just put some burning matches in that hair and we have a real life Buccaneer.
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/7C31/production/_84639713_blackbeard.jpg)
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After watching Rollins vs Cena I can't help but think Rollins style is much more suited for a face. They need to turn him face ASAP.
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After watching Rollins vs Cena I can't help but think Rollins style is much more suited for a face. They need to turn him face ASAP.
They appear to be heading in that direction, as evidenced by the white outfit.
It's hard to hate someone when you admire their athletic ability. So, to get people to hate Rollins, they have him going on and on with endless promos. This approach just gets people changing the channel, which is not what they had in mind.
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Rollins losing to Cena cleanly 2 nights in a row ugh. :-\
He's the champ, this shouldn't be happening. Please turn him face ASAP!
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I didn't catch much of the show, as I was watching the Jets dismantle Andrew Luck and Co, but, Piage's Heel Turn was awesome. I'm expecting good things from her in the next few weeks.
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I didn't catch much of the show, as I was watching the Jets dismantle Andrew Luck and Co, but, Piage's Heel Turn was awesome. I'm expecting good things from her in the next few weeks.
I was very happy about this, plus all of the things she said were accurate as fuck.
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I was very happy about this, plus all of the things she said were accurate as fuck.
Ironically, this turn will probably make her more popular with the fans.
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Rollins losing to Cena cleanly 2 nights in a row ugh. :-\
He's the champ, this shouldn't be happening. Please turn him face ASAP!
could they turn cena with rollins going face as a f/u to fans for siding with rollins?i like cena either way,,he has goody /goody with 1/2 arena booing him ..it works
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could they turn cena with rollins going face as a f/u to fans for siding with rollins?i like cena either way,,he has goody /goody with 1/2 arena booing him ..it works
I like Cena too, plus, with all the work he does with Make a Wish, I could never boo the guy.
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could they turn cena with rollins going face as a f/u to fans for siding with rollins?i like cena either way,,he has goody /goody with 1/2 arena booing him ..it works
Cena is interesting because the kids and the casual fans love him but the "smart" fans don't like him or are at least tired of him. I will admit his wrestling ability has improved over the years.
I imagine they will just leave him as a face, but I must admit I do like the John Cena sucks chants to his music. ;D
Paige hit a home run last night with her promo. Best diva promo I have seen in a very long time. That's the type of stuff they need to actually make this diva revolution a success.
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Cena is interesting because the kids and the casual fans love him but the "smart" fans don't like him or are at least tired of him. I will admit his wrestling ability has improved over the years.
I imagine they will just leave him as a face, but I must admit I do like the John Cena sucks chants to his music. ;D
Paige hit a home run last night with her promo. Best diva promo I have seen in a very long time. That's the type of stuff they need to actually make this diva revolution a success.
A good rule: listen and cater ONLY to who draws you money.
The late, great Gorilla Monsoon once said, "Wrestling is a business. And, if you're in business for any reason other than money, you're a fool."
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My only problem with Cena is his clunkiness in the ring. He's just not smooth.
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Cena is interesting because the kids and the casual fans love him but the "smart" fans don't like him or are at least tired of him. I will admit his wrestling ability has improved over the years.
I imagine they will just leave him as a face, but I must admit I do like the John Cena sucks chants to his music. ;D
Paige hit a home run last night with her promo. Best diva promo I have seen in a very long time. That's the type of stuff they need to actually make this diva revolution a success.
due to expanding the diva brand 'e' show divas are as important as the men it seems...
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WWE is in a very hurting state right now whether people want to admit it or not. Their house show attendance figures are at an all time low (2,000-3,000 max crowds with 45% of the arena tarped off) as are the Raw and Smack down ratings. Right now, I get off more on watching Sasha Banks wrestle Paige because I know I will see a great match. What does that tell you? They need to look past Cena as he simply cannot fill his predacessors shoes. Plain and simple. You cannot create future stars based on mediocrity. Everyone thought Roman Reigns was the next thing and he turned out to be a dud. Ziggler is a phenomenal worker but the bottom line is people are not going to spend 100-200 bucks a ticket to watch a mid card performer. Same with Miz, same with Ambrose and don't even get me started on a New Day. Take the trumpet away from Woods and that faction is garbage beyond belief. Makes me wonder what will happen when Vince kicks the bucket. Punk was right on the money..."The idiotic daughter and dufus son in law will kill it."
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2 problems :
The first problem is that they try to start and end angles within the space of one month. There are no long running feuds like there used to be.
The second problem is that they threw away squash matches. The PPVs are now what you see on RAW anyway. You already know the outcome. The desire to see two stars go at it has been removed already. I remember back when they could show career mid carders like Hercules and Dina Bravo scheduled for an opening match at a PPV. You would actually look forward to see who was coming out on top because they would feed them jobbers to make them both look dominate for weeks before their match.
The product nowdays sucks.
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2 problems :
The first problem is that they try to start and end angles within the space of one month. There are no long running feuds like there used to be.
The second problem is that they threw away squash matches. The PPVs are now what you see on RAW anyway. You already know the outcome. The desire to see two stars go at it has been removed already. I remember back when they could show career mid carders like Hercules and Dina Bravo scheduled for an opening match at a PPV. You would actually look forward to see who was coming out on top because they would feed them jobbers to make them both look dominate for weeks before their match.
The product nowdays sucks.
Good points...even Frankenstein killed a few villagers before losing clean.
I remember Hogan and Orndorff in 1986....a 6 month long feud that drew the most money in the eighties with sellouts all over north america.
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WWE is in a very hurting state right now whether people want to admit it or not. Their house show attendance figures are at an all time low (2,000-3,000 max crowds with 45% of the arena tarped off) as are the Raw and Smack down ratings. Right now, I get off more on watching Sasha Banks wrestle Paige because I know I will see a great match. What does that tell you? They need to look past Cena as he simply cannot fill his predacessors shoes. Plain and simple. You cannot create future stars based on mediocrity. Everyone thought Roman Reigns was the next thing and he turned out to be a dud. Ziggler is a phenomenal worker but the bottom line is people are not going to spend 100-200 bucks a ticket to watch a mid card performer. Same with Miz, same with Ambrose and don't even get me started on a New Day. Take the trumpet away from Woods and that faction is garbage beyond belief. Makes me wonder what will happen when Vince kicks the bucket. Punk was right on the money..."The idiotic daughter and dufus son in law will kill it."
GOOD POST...CENA GOES DOWN THEY HURT WORSE,,,THATS WHEN WHEN THEY PUSH THE MID CARDERS OR LOW LEVEL TALENT,,,
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Good points...even Frankenstein killed a few villagers before losing clean.
I remember Hogan and Orndorff in 1986....a 6 month long feud that drew the most money in the eighties with sellouts all over north america.
SAME THING WITH PIPER KEEP GIVING HIM FEUDS TO SELL OUT...
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WWE is in a very hurting state right now whether people want to admit it or not. Their house show attendance figures are at an all time low (2,000-3,000 max crowds with 45% of the arena tarped off)
Damn, I didn't realize their house shows were doing this poorly.
To be fair, it's harder to get people out of the house, at night, these days, primarily because home entertainment has improved and the live experience has gotten worse: cost, idiots on cellphones, guys shooting up places etc.
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Damn, I didn't realize their house shows were doing this poorly.
To be fair, it's harder to get people out of the house, at night, these days, primarily because home entertainment has improved and the live experience has gotten worse: cost, idiots on cellphones, guys shooting up places etc.
Yes, that is a BIG part of the problem.
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Yes, that is a BIG part of the problem.
That and this PG bullshit. They should go back to airing Raw at 10pm - 12pm (2hr shows) and go balls out like they did in the late 90's. I actually looked forward to watching Raw back then. Forget this "politically correct" / "kiddie" nonsense. If you can air shows like CSI with graphic images, then you can go back to the attitude era type of wrestling.
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Damn, I didn't realize their house shows were doing this poorly.
To be fair, it's harder to get people out of the house, at night, these days, primarily because home entertainment has improved and the live experience has gotten worse: cost, idiots on cellphones, guys shooting up places etc.
"WWE continues its ratings struggle this week after a poor pre-taped performance last week, and Memorial Day this Monday night. With the previous show bringing in the lowest rating of 2015, and the lowest non-holiday Raw of the "three hour era", many thought the numbers had nowhere to but up."
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"WWE continues its ratings struggle this week after a poor pre-taped performance last week, and Memorial Day this Monday night. With the previous show bringing in the lowest rating of 2015, and the lowest non-holiday Raw of the "three hour era", many thought the numbers had nowhere to but up."
When Raw started, back in the '90s, I had basic cable and no internet. Today, I have Verizon Fios with 1000 channels, in addition to Wifi. There's simply more variety. The major networks have been hemoragging viewers, as well.
The days of the casual viewer are over. We're in a world of niche programming. At this point, wrestling's audience is the smart marks. IMO, WWE's best days, both live and on TV are over.
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YES!
2 people... sort of .
Mr. Kennedy won it, then lost it to Edge, who cashed it in and won and Damian Sandow won it and lost when he tried to cash it in.
Don't forget Cena. He cashed the briefcase by giving CM Punk a week's notice. Big Show interfered and got Punk disqualified. Thus, Cena is the first guy to cash MITB but not win the title.
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Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll ask it here: why is everyone so big on Cesaro and demanding he be pushed? I don't dislike him, he's good but there is not much that really stands out for me.
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Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll ask it here: why is everyone so big on Cesaro and demanding he be pushed? I don't dislike him, he's good but there is not much that really stands out for me.
How does he rate against the current "competition?"
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Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll ask it here: why is everyone so big on Cesaro and demanding he be pushed? I don't dislike him, he's good but there is not much that really stands out for me.
He has a unique combo of strength, agility, size, and in ring talent.
That said, the reason he hasn't made it to the top of the card is that he lacks the personality of a top guy. He tries but it's just not there.
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How does he rate against the current "competition?"
My favorites right now are Dean Ambrose and Bray Wyatt. Seth Rollins too for his in ring skills but not mic work.
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My favorites right now are Dean Ambrose and Bray Wyatt. Seth Rollins too for his in ring skills but not mic work.
Seth is fantastic.
I am a huge fan of Dolph Ziggler also... No one sells better.
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Seth is fantastic.
I am a huge fan of Dolph Ziggler also... No one sells better.
I've noticed that too, actually IMO he sometimes sells a little too much, but that's being picky.
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I've noticed that too, actually IMO he sometimes sells a little too much, but that's being picky.
I like the way he oversells sometimes.
I have to also admit, Rusev's facial expressions are great when he's supposed to be "loopy".
They make me laugh.
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Didn't want to start a new thread so I'll ask it here: why is everyone so big on Cesaro and demanding he be pushed? I don't dislike him, he's good but there is not much that really stands out for me.
His in ring work and skills are remarkable due to his experience overseas. Hes spent the bulk of his career wrestling in Europe and his training methods are unique. He is very powerful for a guy with smaller quality size and with a bit of promo work, I think he should have an IC title push and i'm not talking a lame 3 week title reign, i'm talking more like 6-8 months.
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I like the way he oversells sometimes.
I have to also admit, Rusev's facial expressions are great when he's supposed to be "loopy".
They make me laugh.
Yes Rusev has great facial expressions. I also like his temper tantrums.
I know myself and others have mentioned the current announcers suck. One bright spot is Renee Young. I know she does mostly backstage interviews but she has a certain charisma and charm. She does great on her wwe network show, I think it's called beyond the ring.
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Yes Rusev has great facial expressions. I also like his temper tantrums.
I know myself and others have mentioned the current announcers suck. One bright spot is Renee Young. I know she does mostly backstage interviews but she has a certain charisma and charm. She does great on her wwe network show, I think it's called beyond the ring.
Rusev is actually a really good mat technician. He's another one right now who seems to have no direction and as a wise person once said...."Blame creative, not the performer. The performer is only doing what he's told to do."
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Rusev is actually a really good mat technician. He's another one right now who seems to have no direction and as a wise person once said...."Blame creative, not the performer. The performer is only doing what he's told to do."
Performers today are not given enough creative latitude.
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I think wwe is packed with talent. It's just the story lines and creative team sucks. Not sure the problem but maybe they have too many chiefs not enough Indians backstage.
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I think wwe is packed with talent. It's just the story lines and creative team sucks. Not sure the problem but maybe they have too many chiefs not enough Indians backstage.
The main problem is the length of the show. They could probably put on a quality hour and a half show every week, but, at three hours, there's gonna be lots of filler.
I understand that they make more in advertising with three hours, but, it might backfire, in the long run, as ratings continue to drop. You can also make a case that an overexposed television product makes the live shows less desirable.
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The main problem is the length of the show. They could probably put on a quality hour and a half show every week, but, at three hours, there's gonna be lots of filler.
I understand that they make more in advertising with three hours, but, it might backfire, in the long run, as ratings continue to drop. You can also make a case that an overexposed television product makes the live shows less desirable.
I remember when Nitro went to three hours. Talk about fillers...
I saw the writing on the wall during an episode in which a camera crew was following around Kevin Nash while "looking" for a story line drunk Scott Hall in local bars.
This was during one of Hall's very public bouts of substance abuse problems. Ala Russo, they took a real life personal event and turned it into an angle in poor taste, which in turn treated fans to over an hour of recurring segments of looking at Nash's back as he wandered through local dives.
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Performers today are not given enough creative latitude.
Scripted promos are what really annoy me. Wanna see a real promo? Google C.M.Punk Raw rant. That is how a promo is done IMO. Guys now are told what to say, how to act.
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Historically low ratings for RAW this week. They can't put their heads in the sand about this:
WWE Raw rating for the September 28 edition
2015-09-29 16:17:11
Monday's WWE Raw scored a 2.33 rating, down from the 2.47 rating the show drew last week. Raw averaged 3.3 million viewers, down from the 3.349 million average from last week.
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Historically low ratings for RAW this week. They can't put their heads in the sand about this:
WWE Raw rating for the September 28 edition
2015-09-29 16:17:11
Monday's WWE Raw scored a 2.33 rating, down from the 2.47 rating the show drew last week. Raw averaged 3.3 million viewers, down from the 3.349 million average from last week.
They're getting the ratings they deserve.
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They're getting the ratings they deserve.
You mentioned Nitro, earlier. I heard Waltman say that Nitro going to three hours was the begnning of the end, and, that he told that to Triple H. I believe that eventually they're going to have to shorten the show, otherwise there won't be a show.
I'd say I watched a total of ten minutes, this week, and that was while the Football game was in commercials, and, the game wasn't even competitive.
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You mentioned Nitro, earlier. I heard Waltman say that Nitro going to three hours was the begnning of the end, and, that he told that to Triple H. I believe that eventually they're going to have to shorten the show, otherwise there won't be a show.
I'd say I watched a total of ten minutes, this week, and that was while the Football game was in commercials, and, the game wasn't even competitive.
Definitely a length of show issue.
They have 2 options.
Either they decrease the show time or they increase some match times... maybe have a main event that is more than 15 minutes long?
You know... a REAL main event match... instead of just fucking talking all the damn time.
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You mentioned Nitro, earlier. I heard Waltman say that Nitro going to three hours was the begnning of the end, and, that he told that to Triple H. I believe that eventually they're going to have to shorten the show, otherwise there won't be a show.
I'd say I watched a total of ten minutes, this week, and that was while the Football game was in commercials, and, the game wasn't even competitive.
I remember when the shows were beating Monday night football in the ratings.
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I remember when the shows were beating Monday night football in the ratings.
And that right there speaks volumes.
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And that right there speaks volumes.
Football is bigger now then it was 20 years ago (almost) during the Monday night wars.
Now, we can offset the fact it's on ESPN and not ABC, but really, Cable and Satellite and Fiber is pretty much everywhere now.
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Definitely a length of show issue.
They have 2 options.
Either they decrease the show time or they increase some match times... maybe have a main event that is more than 15 minutes long?
You know... a REAL main event match... instead of just fucking talking all the damn time.
imagine a 1 hr match like old days..like flair/steamboat/Harley race/bockwinkle..
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imagine a 1 hr match like old days..like flair/steamboat/Harley race/bockwinkle..
I'm happy with 30-35 on a RAW.
I wish they had a TV title and had them defend that at least once a week... That would be your main event EVERY week and could be awesome.
Fuck John Cena's US Open Blah blah.
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I'm happy with 30-35 on a RAW.
I wish they had a TV title and had them defend that at least once a week... That would be your main event EVERY week and could be awesome.
Fuck John Cena's US Open Blah blah.
YEAH TV TITLE WAS GREAT THROWBACK NWA STYLE...
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Just watched the network special from msg and am sick that Cena always goes over. I'm beyond sick of him, at least as a face. I understand the reasons why they keep him a face but if the turned him heel and not just a regular heel but make him do some real bad shit then it would be huge. Possibly could even save the company.
Seth needs to go face too. Jumps off the top off the cage and takes that bump just to lose and get destroyed by Kane after. :-\
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Just watched the network special from msg and am sick that Cena always goes over. I'm beyond sick of him, at least as a face. I understand the reasons why they keep him a face but if the turned him heel and not just a regular heel but make him do some real bad shit then it would be huge. Possibly could even save the company.
I truly believe they would do it if they had someone lined up to take his place in the wake of a turn.
Honestly, is there anyone currently who could step into Cena's spot and carry the ball for the company the same way from a sales figure standpoint?
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I truly believe they would do it if they had someone lined up to take his place in the wake of a turn.
Honestly, is there anyone currently who could step into Cena's spot and carry the ball for the company the same way from a sales figure standpoint?
I would hate to think this is about merch sales. As far as tickets I strongly feel that if you give the fans the best product you can, the numbers and money will be there in the end.
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I would hate to think this is about merch sales. As far as tickets I strongly feel that if you give the fans the best product you can, the numbers and money will be there in the end.
That's what they did in the late 90's with Austin and it worked, eventually the merch sales went through the roof and the WWE made the most profit they ever did in history. Its the domino effect. It's also rolling the dice and praying for double sixes at a craps game.
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Well, we're gonna see how the WWE does without Cena, for awhile.
Apparently, he will be taking a two month break, at the end of October. Not sure why.
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Odd comment, but what's the deal with Kofi Kingstons chest? Is it just very small or or severely torn?
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Well, we're gonna see how the WWE does without Cena, for awhile.
Apparently, he will be taking a two month break, at the end of October. Not sure why.
I think he might be doing another movie.
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Lol I like this Kevin Owens!
After pinning sin cara:
Ko: that's was 3!
Ref: that was 1.
Ko: (another pin attempt) that's was 3 too!
;D
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Well, we're gonna see how the WWE does without Cena, for awhile.
Apparently, he will be taking a two month break, at the end of October. Not sure why.
They don't need Cena. Even when Cena headlines a house show there's only a max 3,000 - 5,000 max capacity. Rollins is doing well and is a phenomenal heel, reminds me of Edge with the stick talk and the look.
The Wyatts are in a hot fued with Reigns and Ambrose. They just need to find something for Kevin Owens. Love that cannonball in the corner.
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They don't need Cena. Even when Cena headlines a house show there's only a max 3,000 - 5,000 max capacity. Rollins is doing well and is a phenomenal heel, reminds me of Edge with the stick talk and the look.
The Wyatts are in a hot fued with Reigns and Ambrose. They just need to find something for Kevin Owens. Love that cannonball in the corner.
Really? I think the feud sucks.
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Really? I think the feud sucks.
THE WYATTS are capable in the ring,,but after there entrance i'm bored...at least undertaker had it all entrance/in ring/mike work/storylines
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THE WYATTS are capable in the ring,,but after there entrance i'm bored...at least undertaker had it all entrance/in ring/mike work/storylines
I do not dislike The Wyatts as a faction at all... I think that's their strength. I just think the whole thing with Ambrose and Reigns is bad. Honestly, I just don't like Roman Reigns that much.
I think Ambrose has some ability, and he's not boring in and of himself, but I think Roman Reigns is just not that interesting of a character.
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I do not dislike The Wyatts as a faction at all... I think that's their strength. I just think the whole thing with Ambrose and Reigns is bad. Honestly, I just don't like Roman Reigns that much.
I think Ambrose has some ability, and he's not boring in and of himself, but I think Roman Reigns is just not that interesting of a character.
yeah reigns I can't get into either,,time to ditch that look a bit..dude is pretty built..
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yeah reigns I can't get into either,,time to ditch that look a bit..dude is pretty built..
That's the thing.
His body type first rate, but his ring attire actually hurts his look a lot.
His catch phrase is also quite stupid.
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That's the thing.
His body type first rate, but his ring attire actually hurts his look a lot.
His catch phrase is also quite stupid.
Been saying this a while, he needs new ring gear ASAP!
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Been saying this a while, he needs new ring gear ASAP!
he's dressed like he's part sniper/or going paintballing. or laser tag..
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I think he might be doing another movie.
Apparently, not.
According to Meltzer, it's personal reasons. No details, yet.
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YEAH TV TITLE WAS GREAT THROWBACK NWA STYLE...
Okay, I'm curious...
You grew up not far from me, and not many years apart. I was practically force-fed WWF. How did you get your mid-Atlantic feed?
I kind of relied on the magazines. Dirt sheets hadn't been invented, yet.
Although, I do remember seeing the plastic bag over the head angle at my Aunt's house as a little kid. But, I don't remember if it was Funk's original angle, or a ripoff. Nonetheless, that shit hit me hard as a ca. 8 year-old.
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I do not dislike The Wyatts as a faction at all... I think that's their strength. I just think the whole thing with Ambrose and Reigns is bad. Honestly, I just don't like Roman Reigns that much.
I think Ambrose has some ability, and he's not boring in and of himself, but I think Roman Reigns is just not that interesting of a character.
Also, according to Meltzer, Ambrose will be getting a push, in Cena's absence. I hope they let him cut loose. So far, they've stripped everything that was cool about him, and made him into a generic crazy guy.
This is an earlier promo of his. I've seen nothing like this in WWE.
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Also, according to Meltzer, Ambrose will be getting a push, in Cena's absence. I hope they let him cut loose. So far, they've stripped everything that was cool about him, and made him into a generic crazy guy.
This is an earlier promo of his. I've seen nothing like this in WWE.
I'm a huge Dean Ambrose fan. Will be glad when selfish Cena is on vacation and Ambrose gets a push.
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Okay, I'm curious...
You grew up not far from me, and not many years apart. I was practically force-fed WWF. How did you get your mid-Atlantic feed?
I kind of relied on the magazines. Dirt sheets hadn't been invented, yet.
Although, I do remember seeing the plastic bag over the head angle at my Aunt's house as a little kid. But, I don't remember if it was Funk's original angle, or a ripoff. Nonetheless, that shit hit me hard as a ca. 8 year-old.
we had cable tv carried na on tbs ted turner channel..and watched florida wrestling in my early teens shit was on late night after 11 i would wait till parents went to bed and would sneak up,,i watched also texas swcc 'southwest championship wrestling 'bill mercer'and percival pringle 3rd aka as paul bearer,,,my favorite will always be wwf madison square garden on msg network once a month the big card matches...
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I'm a huge Dean Ambrose fan. Will be glad when selfish Cena is on vacation and Ambrose gets a push.
I am, too, but, the WWE has done nothing lately to make me think this won't be disappointing.
I thought Paige might do something interesting following her heel turn. That quickly went down the toilet. Until they prove otherwise, the WWE is a shitty, unwatchable product
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Really? I think the feud sucks.
Its got some great potential if they actually let Ambrose and Reigns get a few licks in. I personally would love to see a blow off HITC match with Bray vs Ambrose. They both can take sick bumps.
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I am, too, but, the WWE has done nothing lately to make me think this won't be disappointing.
I thought Paige might do something interesting following her heel turn. That quickly went down the toilet. Until they prove otherwise, the WWE is a shitty, unwatchable product
Like Paige losing to Natalya cleanly via submission, that made no sense. Took away a lot of her heat. It's small things like this that make me think they might go out of business or end up selling the company.
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Like Paige losing to Natalya cleanly via submission, that made no sense. Took away a lot of her heat. It's small things like this that make me think they might go out of business or end up selling the company.
Its shitty booking. Poor Paige is only doing what she is told. I agree totally with you on that one Calf. Like many of their storylines, it makes no sense at all. A clean finish like that on TV is not good for business.
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Its shitty booking. Poor Paige is only doing what she is told. I agree totally with you on that one Calf. Like many of their storylines, it makes no sense at all. A clean finish like that on TV is not good for business.
It's definitely no good. At least not like that. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm also a Nat fan... she's a solid worker and has skills, and if they plan on pushing her, that's fine, but it came out of nowhere for no reason.
Paige is the heel, and for the heel to get beat like that on TV just makes no sense.
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Glad you guys agree with me. Was just a stupid move by creative. Natty is ok but overrated especially considering the family she came from. There are often big mistakes in her matches. At least we have Sasha Banks and Bailey ironman match to look forward to.
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Glad you guys agree with me. Was just a stupid move by creative. Natty is ok but overrated especially considering the family she came from. There are often big mistakes in her matches. At least we have Sasha Banks and Bailey ironman match to look forward to.
Will be all about it.
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I didn't catch that part of the show, but, heard about it on a review podcast (It's pretty bad when the podcasts that review Raw are better than the show, itself).
I couldn't believe what what I was hearing. Natty hadn't been on tv forever. Meanwhile, Paige had just delivered the best promo by a female wwe wrestler, maybe ever.
That had to bury her on purpose. They can't be that dumb.
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Yet they seem to be JUST that dumb.
I agree with you.
All I can think of is that her comments the previous week about the Bellas must have actually struck a nerve and caused them to punish her.
I can't think of anything else.
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Glad you guys agree with me. Was just a stupid move by creative. Natty is ok but overrated especially considering the family she came from. There are often big mistakes in her matches. At least we have Sasha Banks and Bailey ironman match to look forward to.
What blows my mind is the extremely limited time we see Sasha Banks. In Banks, we have the total package. Looks, attitude, wrestling ability and yet they keep her off tv.
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Good lord I sure like the guy but Roman Reigns sucks on the mic :-\
Felt embarassed when they started chanting boring during his promo.
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Good lord I sure like the guy but Roman Reigns sucks on the mic :-\
Felt embarassed when they started chanting boring during his promo.
Am just watching it out here on the west coast.
It was terrible. He is so boring... I don't understand these 10 minute promos.
Ric Flair would say more in 2 minutes than today's crew does in 15.
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Am just watching it out here on the west coast.
It was terrible. He is so boring... I don't understand these 10 minute promos.
Ric Flair would say more in 2 minutes than today's crew does in 15.
I agree. I always thought that Reigns was pushed too soon. They made him out to be the next great hope and it crashed and burned. I find that they just don't build people anymore. They need to go back to the basics and build guys. Get them in some good 3-4 month fueds with other guys and after a year or two of that, have them chase a title like the IC for example. Now, as soon as a guy comes up from NXT, he's thrust into the main event and as soon as thats done, then what? He fought the big fight already. The hoopla is gone.
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Good lord I sure like the guy but Roman Reigns sucks on the mic :-\
Felt embarassed when they started chanting boring during his promo.
he then got defensive like'i tell my kids daddy has to earn a living'this is my life ,,finally he called out wyatts enough to come out for the match,,it was cringe worthy for a minute there..
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he then got defensive like'i tell my kids daddy has to earn a living'this is my life ,,finally he called out wyatts enough to come out for the match,,it was cringe worthy for a minute there..
Agreed, it wasn't pretty.
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Scripted promos = bad for business.
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I suspect this week will be another ratings low. You had both football and the baseball playoffs as competition. No reason to check out Raw. I caught a few minutes of the Cena/Ziggler match and that was it.
The other couple times during commercials that I flipped over to Raw, Kane was watching television and talking on the phone. I lasted about five seconds before flipping back to the game.
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I suspect this week will be another ratings low. You had both football and the baseball playoffs as competition. No reason to check out Raw. I caught a few minutes of the Cena/Ziggler match and that was it.
The other couple times during commercials that I flipped over to Raw, Kane was watching television and talking on the phone. I lasted about five seconds before flipping back to the game.
EARLY MATCH TOO NOT LAST OF NIGHT..
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EARLY MATCH TOO NOT LAST OF NIGHT..
It was a pretty good match, but of course, let's just keep the strap on Cena even though he's leaving.
Let Dolph carry the strap for a couple of months and let's see what happens.
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Rollins is doing a good job so far for what he was given and in the short time. Again, IMO he was pushed too soon. Mind you, they did right by giving him Mercury and Noble for a while. He had two experienced road agents guiding him. I think by Royal Rumble we will see a huge face turn on Rollins' part. He just needs to keep the fire burning and not fizzle out.
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Rollins is doing a good job so far for what he was given and in the short time. Again, IMO he was pushed too soon. Mind you, they did right by giving him Mercury and Noble for a while. He had two experienced road agents guiding him. I think by Royal Rumble we will see a huge face turn on Rollins' part. He just needs to keep the fire burning and not fizzle out.
I've become a big fan of his in ring work. The guy has made everyone look good who has gotten in the ring with him.
He's a talent, so why doesn't the WWE put more of that kind of talent in the ring?
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It was a pretty good match, but of course, let's just keep the strap on Cena even though he's leaving.
Let Dolph carry the strap for a couple of months and let's see what happens.
I LIKE ZIGGLER,,THE WHOLE LOVE TRIANGLE THING WAS DUMB...THESE BRIGETTE NIELSEN LOOKALIKES MANAGERS PAIRED W/RUSSIAN WRESTLERS OR EAST EUROPE IS LIKE 80'S REDONE..NOW RUSEV JUST LET HIM WRESTLE THE LOOKALIKE AND THE ORIGINAL FIGHTING OVER HIM ABSURD..
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I LIKE ZIGGLER,,THE WHOLE LOVE TRIANGLE THING WAS DUMB...THESE BRIGETTE NIELSEN LOOKALIKES MANAGERS PAIRED W/RUSSIAN WRESTLERS OR EAST EUROPE IS LIKE 80'S REDONE..NOW RUSEV JUST LET HIM WRESTLE THE LOOKALIKE AND THE ORIGINAL FIGHTING OVER HIM ABSURD..
Yes, the angle was ridiculous.
Glad they are just getting rid of the angle with their engagement, but really, that's so stupid. There's no Kayfabe anymore.
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It was a pretty good match, but of course, let's just keep the strap on Cena even though he's leaving.
Let Dolph carry the strap for a couple of months and let's see what happens.
During the part I saw, Ziggler hit Cena with about ten consecutive elbow drops. It was pretty impressive, but Cena may as well have been text messaging while this was happening, as he got up immediately afterwards as though nothing had happened. Cena's STF was also ridiculous, as you could've driven a truck through the space between Cena's hands and Ziggler's chin. What makes it even worse is that when Cena was on Austin's Podcast, Austin told him to make the move more snug.
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During the part I saw, Ziggler hit Cena with about ten consecutive elbow drops. It was pretty impressive, but Cena may as well have been text messaging while this was happening, as he got up immediately afterwards as though nothing had happened. Cena's STF was also ridiculous, as you could've driven a truck through the space between Cena's hands and Ziggler's chin. What makes it even worse is that when Cena was on Austin's Podcast, Austin told him to make the move more snug.
Some people are just not open to criticism I suppose.
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During the part I saw, Ziggler hit Cena with about ten consecutive elbow drops. It was pretty impressive, but Cena may as well have been text messaging while this was happening, as he got up immediately afterwards as though nothing had happened. Cena's STF was also ridiculous, as you could've driven a truck through the space between Cena's hands and Ziggler's chin. What makes it even worse is that when Cena was on Austin's Podcast, Austin told him to make the move more snug.
LOL,,,JUST REMEMBERING THIS THE 'HOLD'LOOK SO LAZY LIKE IT COULDN'T CAUSE A 2 YR OLD TO SUBMIT...THE ENGAGEMENT THING WAS ODD TOO STOPPING IN MIDMATCH TO CLAP...
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THESE BRIGETTE NIELSEN LOOKALIKES MANAGERS PAIRED W/RUSSIAN WRESTLERS OR EAST EUROPE IS LIKE 80'S REDONE...
On a recent podcast, Jericho speculated/hinted at an upcoming Kurt Angle return for a Rocky Balboa-type "American Hero vs. Evil Russian" feud.
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On a recent podcast, Jericho speculated/hinted at an upcoming Kurt Angle return for a Rocky Balboa-type "American Hero vs. Evil Russian" feud.
WWE dropped the ball with Angle. There's one guy who deserved his 1 mill per year deal and could out wrestle anyone.
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Dean Ambrose although not extremely talkative is very good on the mic and I think the reason why is because his character is so close to the actual person. When cutting a promo he just seems very relaxed. Sort of like Robert Downey Jr is a great Tony Stark because he's playing a guy so similar to himself.
Yes, Ambrose Mark outed!
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Dean Ambrose although not extremely talkative is very good on the mic and I think the reason why is because his character is so close to the actual person. When cutting a promo he just seems very relaxed. Sort of like Robert Downey Jr is a great Tony Stark because he's playing a guy so similar to himself.
Yes, Ambrose Mark outed!
I guess I'm old school, but, I like wrestlers wrestling in wrestling attire. When I see someone come to the ring in blue jeans, it takes me out of the match. When Ambrose was in the Indies, he wrestled in trunks. Apparently, putting him in jeans is the WWE's idea of making edgy. IMO, it makes him look like an idiot.
Barring dramatic change, the WWE is hopeless. Luckily, New Japan is killing it. The Intercontinental Title match for the Tokyodome show is Nakamura vs Karl Anderson.
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I guess I'm old school, but, I like wrestlers wrestling in wrestling attire. When I see someone come to the ring in blue jeans, it takes me out of the match. When Ambrose was in the Indies, he wrestled in trunks. Apparently, putting him in jeans is the WWE's idea of making edgy. IMO, it makes him look like an idiot.
Barring dramatic change, the WWE is hopeless. Luckily, New Japan is killing it. The Intercontinental Title match for the Tokyodome show is Nakamura vs Karl Anderson.
I hear ya on the jeans thing,,,only guy it worked for back in the day was Brooklyn brawler lol...
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I guess I'm old school, but, I like wrestlers wrestling in wrestling attire. When I see someone come to the ring in blue jeans, it takes me out of the match. When Ambrose was in the Indies, he wrestled in trunks. Apparently, putting him in jeans is the WWE's idea of making edgy. IMO, it makes him look like an idiot.
Barring dramatic change, the WWE is hopeless. Luckily, New Japan is killing it. The Intercontinental Title match for the Tokyodome show is Nakamura vs Karl Anderson.
You will never be disappointed with a NJPW show. Your guaranteed to see new moves, different styles and a good ground technique not seen in American rings.
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You will never be disappointed with a NJPW show. Your guaranteed to see new moves, different styles and a good ground technique not seen in American rings.
That, and you won't see an infantile love triangle angle, ala "Saved by the Bell."
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Rhetorical question: How can Seth Rollins carry any heel heet (and champion credibility) when he is constantly pinned cleanly on TV every week and never comes out on top nor does he ever do any cheap heel attacks to get heat. This is nothing against Rollins but rather creative.
And, I finally watched the McMahon Stone cold podcast from several months back and was rather discouraged. Steve Austin brough up to vince the issues us fans have with current wwe; too many people in creative, not pushing guys who are over with the fans (Cesaro) and overall not listening to fans.
Vince claimed they do listen to fans and they need all those peolple in creative. I was just disappointed because Austin really just put it out there and Vince pretty much denied there was a problem.
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Rhetorical question: How can Seth Rollins carry any heel heet (and champion credibility) when he is constantly pinned cleanly on TV every week and never comes out on top nor does he ever do any cheap heel attacks to get heat. This is nothing against Rollins but rather creative.
And, I finally watched the McMahon Stone cold podcast from several months back and was rather discouraged. Steve Austin brough up to vince the issues us fans have with current wwe; too many people in creative, not pushing guys who are over with the fans (Cesaro) and overall not listening to fans.
Vince claimed they do listen to fans and they need all those peolple in creative. I was just disappointed because Austin really just put it out there and Vince pretty much denied there was a problem.
And that is exactly the mistake they are making with him because they are destroying any credability Seth has in making him lose clean on TV. They are so **** stupid in the WWE right now. They could use a count out or a DQ finish but to make the guy who's your world champion lose clean is not whats best for business.
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His presentation sucks, too.
A champion is supposed to be on another level from everyone else.
He's a guy who could pull off an expensive suit, but they have him walking around in a tshirt and tights. He may as well be Heath Slater.
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His presentation sucks, too.
A champion is supposed to be on another level from everyone else.
He's a guy who could pull off an expensive suit, but they have him walking around in a tshirt and tights. He may as well be Heath Slater.
Its the head of talent relations as well as booking. Rollins is very good but again, doing what he is told.
Austin and the Rock had freedom to do/say/wear what they wanted.
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Here is a good article on how they are screwing up Seth Rollins.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2579420-timeline-of-the-decimation-of-seth-rollins-credibility-as-wwe-world-champion (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2579420-timeline-of-the-decimation-of-seth-rollins-credibility-as-wwe-world-champion)
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Here is a good article on how they are screwing up Seth Rollins.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2579420-timeline-of-the-decimation-of-seth-rollins-credibility-as-wwe-world-champion (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2579420-timeline-of-the-decimation-of-seth-rollins-credibility-as-wwe-world-champion)
Good read...nice find.
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If the reports are not true then let me apologize to Vince; but it really annoys me that Vince was the one to pull back the curtain and let people know it's a work and just sports entertainment, that's why it's very annoying to hear reports of Vince getting mad at talent for breaking kayfabe. Most recently the Lana and Rusev engagement and the group pic with Jericho, luke Harper, Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt.
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Vince, then, should be pissed at Brock. I've listened to about half of the Austin Podcast. Brock mentions sitting with Undertaker during road trips and picking his brain. He credits Taker with teaching him ring psychology and how to put together a match. This seems a tad inappropriate considering they have a big match coming up, against each other.
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Vince, then, should be pissed at Brock. I've listened to about half of the Austin Podcast. Brock mentions sitting with Undertaker during road trips and picking his brain. He credits Taker with teaching him ring psychology and how to put together a match. This seems a tad inappropriate considering they have a big match coming up, against each other.
I totally agree with this post. It all has to do with the poor ratings. They have to try to make money back another way. Podcasts, Total Divas and now this new show that is going to air Monday night after Raw. Christ, last Raw they had to load up the card with Austin, Undertaker, Michaels and Flair FFS just to get people in seats. This is the game they are playing now.
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Just watched HIAC, I liked the ending, finally Bray Wyatt with a great heel move to get some serious heat.
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Just watched HIAC, I liked the ending, finally Bray Wyatt with a great heel move to get some serious heat.
I agree, it was a good move. I would love to see a casket match between the Undertaker and Bray Wyatt.
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Random comment, Becky Lynch is a good wrestler but has underrated hotness. I think those silly goggles distract from her good looks.
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Random comment, Becky Lynch is a good wrestler but has underrated hotness. I think those silly goggles distract from her good looks.
Spot on. She's a really good looking girl, but, Vince can't help himself. She's Irish. So, she has to be presented as a Leprechaun.
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Random comment, Becky Lynch is a good wrestler but has underrated hotness. I think those silly goggles distract from her good looks.
Becky is hot but I get turned off as soon as she starts to speak...something about that "man voice".
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Since we're talking about the women, either Charlotte's personality has yet to come out, or she doesn't have one. She comes across as very cold and distant.
And it looks like Paige is back in the mix. I still think she has a lot up upside.
Btw, last night's Raw was actually pretty good, with the Owens/Cesaro match being exceptional.
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I caught very little of last nights show but I did like the crowd pop when Reigns and Owens squared off.
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The ratings have highest during the first hour. As a result they're stacking the early part of the show.
That works fine for me. I get up at 5:00am, by 9:30pm I'm done.
BTW, early morning workouts are the perfect time to catch up on Podcasts.
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Since we're talking about the women, either Charlotte's personality has yet to come out, or she doesn't have one. She comes across as very cold and distant.
And it looks like Paige is back in the mix. I still think she has a lot up upside.
Btw, last night's Raw was actually pretty good, with the Owens/Cesaro match being exceptional.
Charlotte is boring. She is "ok", but wouldn't really be much without her old man.
Paige, Sasha, Becky... Those 3 are the shit.
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Charlotte is boring. She is "ok", but wouldn't really be much without her old man.
Paige, Sasha, Becky... Those 3 are the shit.
Becky is still a work in progress, but, she certainly has an upside.
They need to present her better. This outfit is better than what she's currently wearing and she's still getting owned by Sasha.
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Is Dave Finlay still training the ladies?
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Is Dave Finlay still training the ladies?
As far as I am aware, yes he is.
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Is Dave Finlay still training the ladies?
He sure is...hense the improvement in the women's division.
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Here's an idea
Survivor series....
Kane and Undertaker vs the Wyatt family, all 4.....
Picture this...Wyatss are already in the ring.........Lights go dark, the Bell tolls, Druid on the ramp holding their torches...UT and Kane come down......2 of the druidd leave the pack and follow UT and Kane.....they walk into the ring.....heads still down......
Lights go on...Druid remove their hoods to reveal.....APA, one night reunion....place goes crazy....the ministry is back......
Thoughts?
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Here's an idea
Survivor series....
Kane and Undertaker vs the Wyatt family, all 4.....
Picture this...Wyatss are already in the ring.........Lights go dark, the Bell tolls, Druid on the ramp holding their torches...UT and Kane come down......2 of the druidd leave the pack and follow UT and Kane.....they walk into the ring.....heads still down......
Lights go on...Druid remove their hoods to reveal.....APA, one night reunion....place goes crazy....the ministry is back......
Thoughts?
While I like the idea, the fact that the WWE has to continuously go back to the old guard is a huge problem.
They need to find a way to move forward, not backward.
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Here's an idea
Survivor series....
Kane and Undertaker vs the Wyatt family, all 4.....
Picture this...Wyatss are already in the ring.........Lights go dark, the Bell tolls, Druid on the ramp holding their torches...UT and Kane come down......2 of the druidd leave the pack and follow UT and Kane.....they walk into the ring.....heads still down......
Lights go on...Druid remove their hoods to reveal.....APA, one night reunion....place goes crazy....the ministry is back......
Thoughts?
I think that's a TREMENDOUS idea.
I also think that's why they'd never do it.
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Here's an idea
Survivor series....
Kane and Undertaker vs the Wyatt family, all 4.....
Picture this...Wyatss are already in the ring.........Lights go dark, the Bell tolls, Druid on the ramp holding their torches...UT and Kane come down......2 of the druidd leave the pack and follow UT and Kane.....they walk into the ring.....heads still down......
Lights go on...Druid remove their hoods to reveal.....APA, one night reunion....place goes crazy....the ministry is back......
Thoughts?
A great idea :D
Problem is WWE upper brass is too stupid to do something like that to be put in simplistic terms.
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Thanks guys, appreciate the kind words. They have soo much great talent right now that they dont know what to do with.
Cesaro
Owens
Ziggler
+ NXT roster.
Half the problem is there are no diabolical heels. Guys play the role but are afraid of the heat.
The other problem is us as fans are sick of guys getting pushed, getting squashed, pushed again. I loved Ziggler and Cesaro but why get behind them when WWE can't.
As one person here stated, sad state when they have to go back to the old days. I also guarantee that this year's WM will have at least 5-7 old timers....It's the only way they will be able to pack the stadium
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You guys are missing something.
As an announcer, JBL is a heel. In this match, Taker is the face.
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You guys are missing something.
As an announcer, JBL is a heel. In this match, Taker is the face.
Lol don't put much stock in jbl he sucks as an announcer and is inconsistent.
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Lol don't put much stock in jbl he sucks as an announcer and is inconsistent.
Yeah, not a fan of JBL as an announcer. He's either putting himself over, or playing "gotcha" with Cole.
His wife sucks as a money manager, too. She had a good call during the 2008 financial crisis, and, as a result, got some investment capital flowing her way, and promptly lost it.
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Yeah, not a fan of JBL as an announcer. He's either putting himself over, or playing "gotcha" with Cole.
His wife sucks as a money manager, too. She had a good call during the 2008 financial crisis, and, as a result, got some investment capital flowing her way, and promptly lost it.
I heard a while back the JBL's wife Merdith makes sick coin and has a position in the white house.
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I heard a while back the JBL's wife Merdith makes sick coin and has a position in the white house.
She was a banking analyst, who got into money management after the crisis. JBL does deserve props for landing a woman who isn't in the wrestling business.
From the Wall St. Journal:
Meredith Whitney shut her fledgling hedge fund, a setback for the ex-banking analyst who became one of Wall Street’s highest-profile women during the last financial crisis but ran into challenges in recent years.
Ms. Whitney didn’t respond to a request for comment, but her lawyer confirmed the closure of Kenbelle Capital LP. In an interview Wednesday on the Fox Business Network, Ms. Whitney said she didn’t plan to manage money again.
“This whole experience has been highly unfortunate, and I’m putting it behind me,” Ms. Whitney said.
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She was a banking analyst, who got into money management after the crisis. JBL does deserve props for landing a woman who isn't in the wrestling business.
From the Wall St. Journal:
Meredith Whitney shut her fledgling hedge fund, a setback for the ex-banking analyst who became one of Wall Street’s highest-profile women during the last financial crisis but ran into challenges in recent years.
Ms. Whitney didn’t respond to a request for comment, but her lawyer confirmed the closure of Kenbelle Capital LP. In an interview Wednesday on the Fox Business Network, Ms. Whitney said she didn’t plan to manage money again.
“This whole experience has been highly unfortunate, and I’m putting it behind me,” Ms. Whitney said.
Nice :)
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Dean Ambrose and Renee Young have a great chemistry together because of their relationship. Check this interview out.
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Rene = over-rated in the looks dept.
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Rene = over-rated in the looks dept.
Maybe but that's secondary; she has a certain charisma and character about her. She's not dead between the eyes like so many of these women like Eva Marie, the ones with just looks and not much else.
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Maybe but that's secondary; she has a certain charisma and character about her. She's not dead between the eyes like so many of these women like Eva Marie, the ones with just looks and not much else.
I'll agree with you there.
I personally think Lilian Garcia is under rated as a hottie. She look phenomenal for a 47 year old cougar.
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Oh god, please stop letting Roman Reigns cut promos. Watching is pure torture. Just make him a big tough monster that has someone else and his actions speak for him.
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As usual, I fell out half way through, but the Ambrose/Ziggler match was very cool with some amateur and scientific wrestling.
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Oh god, please stop letting Roman Reigns cut promos. Watching is pure torture. Just make him a big tough monster that has someone else and his actions speak for him.
Agreed. He was much better as a heel with little to nothing to say when he was a Shield member. On a side note, did any of you see the Neville vs Kevin Owens match? Stole the show.
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alberto del rio is getting a nice push,and like most do getting the physique to match ,looking much bigger ,his stomach/waist is wide but he looks better with the size added..
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alberto del rio is getting a nice push,and like most do getting the physique to match ,looking much bigger ,his stomach/waist is wide but he looks better with the size added..
Good, I wasn't the only one who noticed :)
He looks like he's been hitting the sauce in Lucha Underground.
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Good, I wasn't the only one who noticed :)
He looks like he's been hitting the sauce in Lucha Underground.
that's why he doesn't need the gimmick anymore cruising in with a car,flashing entrance.
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I didn't see it, but apparently Paige brought up Reid Flair, Ric's son who died, to promote their match.
That's going too far. I wonder who green lighted that. Was it the Chairman?
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I didn't see it, but apparently Paige brought up Reid Flair, Ric's son who died, to promote their match.
That's going too far. I wonder who green lighted that. Was it the Chairman?
Probably Mark Carrano...head of talent relations. I'm sure Ric would have okayed it. He apparantely is backstage as he went with the tour to England.
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Damn bringing up Reid is harsh. I didn't get to see it yet. Charlotte was probably ok with it, she brought him up during her recent Table for 3.
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Damn bringing up Reid is harsh. I didn't get to see it yet. Charlotte was probably ok with it, she brought him up during her recent Table for 3.
It just seems low rent and not part of the story. It's one thing for say that Charlotte got to where she is because of Dad. That's wrestling related, but, bringing up a family member who died of an overdose is just cheap heat.
As an aside, did anyone see the fall Jay Uso took going over the top rope? I can't tell them apart, but, apparently he's the one who just got back from shoulder surgery. New Day was supposed to catch him, but he overshot the move and landed head first. I was shocked he got up from that.
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It just seems low rent and not part of the story. It's one thing for say that Charlotte got to where she is because of Dad. That's wrestling related, but, bringing up a family member who died of an overdose is just cheap heat.
As an aside, did anyone see the fall Jay Uso took going over the top rope? I can't tell them apart, but, apparently he's the one who just got back from shoulder surgery. New Day was supposed to catch him, but he overshot the move and landed head first. I was shocked he got up from that.
Well during her table for 3 episode, she talked about how Reid was the one who convinced her to move to Florida together so they could share an apartment and train together. She said he never got to see her wrestle, so I think with her using him in this angle is kind of symbolic for her. Making Reid part of her wrestling career that he never had the chance to do when he was alive. Maybe one of those things that she knows better than anyone he would be all for it.
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Here is what Ric Flair had to say about it.
http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2015/11/18/9753464/ric-flair-cried-watching-charlotte-paige-angle-raw-wwe (http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2015/11/18/9753464/ric-flair-cried-watching-charlotte-paige-angle-raw-wwe)
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Well during her table for 3 episode, she talked about how Reid was the one who convinced her to move to Florida together so they could share an apartment and train together. She said he never got to see her wrestle, so I think with her using him in this angle is kind of symbolic for her. Making Reid part of her wrestling career that he never had the chance to do when he was alive. Maybe one of those things that she knows better than anyone he would be all for it.
My first comment was before I saw the segment. I thought Paige brought it up out of the blue.
Having watched it on WWE.com, Charlotte brought him up several times before Paige responded. So, obviously Charlotte was in on it to a much bigger extent than I had thought. Had I watched it not knowing the outcome, I would've expected Paige to say something.
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As Ric had stated, creative probably approached Charlotte about the angle and because she is new, didn't want to sat "NO"....end of the day poor taste.
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As Ric had stated, creative probably approached Charlotte about the angle and because she is new, didn't want to sat "NO"....end of the day poor taste.
Not the first time Vince used something that was in poor taste.
Better or Worse than the Katie Vick nonsense with HHH?
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Not the first time Vince used something that was in poor taste.
Better or Worse than the Katie Vick nonsense with HHH?
Ya, that Katie Vick thing was classless.
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Ya, that Katie Vick thing was classless.
Or how about Big Show on top of his Father's coffin being pulled by a car driven by Bog Boss Man
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Or how about Big Show on top of his Father's coffin being pulled by a car driven by Bog Boss Man
That was pretty tasteless too.
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Mark Henry banging Mae Young tops my list - especially with the coup de grace of Mae birthing a hand at the angle's climax!
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Only caught a little of the show and caught up by watching clips on the app, but for me the highlight of the show was Paige on commentary. She is very talented on the mic, in ring and even on commentary.
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Mark Henry banging Mae Young tops my list - especially with the coup de grace of Mae birthing a hand at the angle's climax!
Ha ha ha :D I remember that! Jerry Lawler legitimately yacked in the annoucers booth!
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Blue Pants is back in nxt? I thought she was let go, maybe they brought her back ???
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Blue Pants is back in nxt? I thought she was let go, maybe they brought her back ???
Came back a couple of weeks ago.
I guess they are willing to give her another chance.
Still better than either Bella.
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Came back a couple of weeks ago.
I guess they are willing to give her another chance.
Still better than either Bella.
Smart move by WWE, if she's over with the fans why not bring her back.
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I know Vince rarely appears on tv these days but how awesome would it be to see an interaction between Mr. McMahon and the New Day.
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I know Vince rarely appears on tv these days but how awesome would it be to see an interaction between Mr. McMahon and the New Day.
TBH, I would throw up.
I'm telling you guys, what they need to do is scrap this PG bullshit and start airing Raw and Smackdown at 10pm. They need to go back to the formula they had in the late 90's when you would tune in and you never knew what was going to happen. Its way to kid friendly and way too predictable now. If they can air reality shows that are intense and shows like CSI where they show bodies that are decapitated, than they can go a lot harsher on wrestling.
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TBH, I would throw up.
I'm telling you guys, what they need to do is scrap this PG bullshit and start airing Raw and Smackdown at 10pm. They need to go back to the formula they had in the late 90's when you would tune in and you never knew what was going to happen. Its way to kid friendly and way too predictable now. If they can air reality shows that are intense and shows like CSI where they show bodies that are decapitated, than they can go a lot harsher on wrestling.
Excellent point, my brother from another mother!!!
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Excellent point, my brother from another mother!!!
On a side note...
I would highly recommend to all watching Paul Heymen's "My Name is ..." DVD. You will truly appreciate this grossly under-rated person and what he has done and the sacrifices he has made for wrestling.
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I hope they make Kevin Owens vs Lesnar at Wrestlemania. That could be a great match!
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I hope they make Kevin Owens vs Lesnar at Wrestlemania. That could be a great match!
it would, Owens gets the loss and then truly gets relegated to mid card status......same as Wyatt vs Cena a few yrs back
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I hope they make Kevin Owens vs Lesnar at Wrestlemania. That could be a great match!
I would say Owens vs a healed up Daniel Bryan would be a sick WM match. let them go at it just as they did in ROH. They would tell a wonderful story.
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I would say Owens vs a healed up Daniel Bryan would be a sick WM match. let them go at it just as they did in ROH. They would tell a wonderful story.
DB is done wrestling wise. Sucks because he was a great worker, but he needs to not kill himself or become an invalid.
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DB is done wrestling wise. Sucks because he was a great worker, but he needs to not kill himself or become an invalid.
Have they confirmed that he's done? Sometime they tend to put falsafied info on the net purposely to catch everyone off guard. I have a funny feeling he will be back at Royal Rumble. Mind you, I could also be wrong. Maybe his injury is way worse than everyone thought.
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Have they confirmed that he's done? Sometime they tend to put falsafied info on the net purposely to catch everyone off guard. I have a funny feeling he will be back at Royal Rumble. Mind you, I could also be wrong. Maybe his injury is way worse than everyone thought.
From my understanding, his doctors say he's okay to wrestle, but the WWE Drs disagree. Sounds like Vince's lawyers don't think it's a smart idea to take on the liability. Can't say say I blame them.
I have to admit, when Bryan came back the first time, I had a hard time watching him without thinking about his neck.
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From my understanding, his doctors say he's okay to wrestle, but the WWE Drs disagree. Sounds like Vince's lawyers don't think it's a smart idea to take on the liability. Can't say say I blame them.
I have to admit, when Bryan came back the first time, I had a hard time watching him without thinking about his neck.
Lol...."the WWE doctors disagree" ... the same doctors who okayed Punk and Kane to wrestle with giant lumps on their back, Punk's being dangerously fatal if not drained.
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Watching TLC. Couple really good bumps in the tag team ladder match.
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Match for the Divas title now, I have no idea who is the face and who is the heel ???
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I think they are both tweening right now.
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I think they are both tweening right now.
Lance Storm made the same comment on Twitter about not knowing who the heel of face diva is.
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I think they are positioning for a shift. Paige face and Charlotte heel.
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I think they are positioning for a shift. Paige face and Charlotte heel.
I believe you are correct here.
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With the year winding down, my candidates for match of the year are Bailey vs Banks Ironman match or TLC match for tag titles, Usos, New Day, Lucha Dragons.
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With the year winding down, my candidates for match of the year are Bailey vs Banks Ironman match or TLC match for tag titles, Usos, New Day, Lucha Dragons.
The tag match for sure.
The Bailey / Banks match was good. Very good. The bumps the Tag Teams took though... Whew.
They completely stole the show.
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The tag match for sure.
The Bailey / Banks match was good. Very good. The bumps the Tag Teams took though... Whew.
They completely stole the show.
So you agree those matches are good candidates?
Would love to hear what other matches people would nominate. Those are the 2 that stuck out for me.
That solina del sol bump from the top of the ladder brought me back to the days of Edge spearing Jeff Hardy off the ladder. Sick bumps!
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So you agree those matches are good candidates?
Would love to hear what other matches people would nominate. Those are the 2 that stuck out for me.
That solina del sol bump from the top of the ladder brought me back to the days of Edge spearing Jeff Hardy off the ladder. Sick bumps!
Absolutely good candidates.
Honestly, I would have to go back and look at other matches again... Not many stand out to me. Rollins and Cena in hell in a cell was ok. Rollins makes everyone look good.
Were there really a lot of standout matches in the WWE this year?
Ring of Honor had a bunch of great matches though.
Jay Lethal going to wrestle kingdom is going to be great.
I think I will go there next year.
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Also might want to add Cena vs Sami Zayn. But I will add a disclaimer that this was the first Zayn match I've ever seen so maybe all his matches are that great?
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Scott Levy mad an interesting suggestion on Jericho's podcast about Vince hiring a couple of retired veterans to go on the road with these current guys and discuss things like psychology and character development, etc.
Personally, I doubt the old man would ever go for it since:
a.) It's not his idea
b.) He likes having TOTAL control over the talent.
It seems like the McMahon's don't want any "independent thinkers" on the roster.
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That solina del sol bump from the top of the ladder brought me back to the days of Edge spearing Jeff Hardy off the ladder. Sick bumps!
I ended up getting that bump recoreded my phone - looks/sounds even crazier than the official PPV video, since you really hear the crowd go apeshit.
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The tag match for sure.
The Bailey / Banks match was good. Very good. The bumps the Tag Teams took though... Whew. They completely stole the show.
I agree with you here.
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WWE just put out their top 25 list. The Bailey vs Sasha Banks match made number 10 but their other match at Nxt takeover (haven't seen it yet) made #2. Good for them, well deserved.
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get rid of the writers and go back to the guys winging their characters while working with the older wiser retired talent backstage who used to do it, look at old promos and tell me I am wrong
who is going to have better connection to the audience, some poor kid sent out trying to remember a script some pansy who has never been in the ring wrote or getting mentored and molded by someone like Jake Roberts, Steamboat, Undertaker, Kane, Mankind and then going out there and letting the creative and physical talent go where it's supposed to be..a developing connection with the crowd
the guys today are too busy following a script.. the old guys could cut a perfect promo in their sleep 3 sheets to the wind and get people interested
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CM Punk chants when Vince is in the ring. ;D
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Ok getbig and wwe I have another idea:
A face superstar who is good on the mic (not Roman) needs to have a feud with VKM and totally lay into him in worked shoot style just saying how he is 70 and lost his touch and is out of touch. Most importantly needs to tell vince how much of a shame it is since he sold out by going public and must do what is needed to how down and please the share holders and maintain a pg program.
If done correctly and by the right person it could be epic heat. Of course I'm not sure anyone currently could pull it off. Obviously Rock, Austin and Punk could but they aren't wreslting and I think it would be a better angle for someone just getting over.
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Ok getbig and wwe I have another idea:
A face superstar who is good on the mic (not Roman) needs to have a feud with VKM and totally lay into him in worked shoot style just saying how he is 70 and lost his touch and is out of touch. Most importantly needs to tell vince how much of a shame it is since he sold out by going public and must do what is needed to how down and please the share holders and maintain a pg program.
If done correctly and by the right person it could be epic heat. Of course I'm not sure anyone currently could pull it off. Obviously Rock, Austin and Punk could but they aren't wreslting and I think it would be a better angle for someone just getting over.
C.M Punk fits that bill perfectly. Too bad WWE let him slip away.
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I like the new Social Outcasts stable for 2 reasons. All those guys were being underutilized and all have a good amount of talent. 3rd reason is the fans like them and want to see them.
I also like Charlotte much better as a heel.
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Social Outcasts = Job Squad
Pin me. Pay Me.
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I like the new Social Outcasts stable for 2 reasons. All those guys were being underutilized and all have a good amount of talent. 3rd reason is the fans like them and want to see them.
I also like Charlotte much better as a heel.
I agree, there is so much more they can be doing with these guys.
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Scott Levy mad an interesting suggestion on Jericho's podcast about Vince hiring a couple of retired veterans to go on the road with these current guys and discuss things like psychology and character development, etc.
Personally, I doubt the old man would ever go for it since:
a.) It's not his idea
b.) He likes having TOTAL control over the talent.
It seems like the McMahon's don't want any "independent thinkers" on the roster.
Austin, Cornette and a few others have been saying this for years. There is no one that can teach ring psychology anymore as all the vets are gone.
I know one of Jim Ross' issues is that no body sells anymore. If the road thing doesn't work bring in some of the vets to explain this...one of the best was Ricky Morton.....
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Nothing lasts forever. I honestly think that once VKM leave the business permanently, there will be a massive decline in revenue and attendance will be a lot worse than it already is. That is when you will see a parallel accross the United States and smaller territories as we saw in the early to mid eighties.
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Nothing lasts forever. I honestly think that once VKM leave the business permanently, there will be a massive decline in revenue and attendance will be a lot worse than it already is. That is when you will see a parallel accross the United States and smaller territories as we saw in the early to mid eighties.
My guess is Disney will eventually buy WWE.
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My guess is Disney will eventually buy WWE.
Or someone else, maybe Panda Energy ;)
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Or someone else, maybe Panda Energy ;)
LMMFAO!!!!!
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LMMFAO!!!!!
Dixie can shake her tale up in the north east. :P
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Very nice to see Shame return and HHH make a bloody mess of Roman Reigns. Could WWE be going away from the PG hole they have been in? I doubt but it was a good sign to see the color since we all know vince doesn't like it.
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Very nice to see Shame return and HHH make a bloody mess of Roman Reigns. Could WWE be going away from the PG hole they have been in? I doubt but it was a good sign to see the color since we all know vince doesn't like it.
I hope so bro. The PG movement is what killed them in the first place.
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I hope so bro. The PG movement is what killed them in the first place.
But, it was a necessary evil.
Think of it as the modern equivalent of "1993 WWF."
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Nice to see WWE dropping the ball yet again by bringing Rollins back as a heel. SMH.
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Nice to see WWE dropping the ball yet again by bringing Rollins back as a heel. SMH.
Agreed here.
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I have come to the realization that we need to just suck it up and take WWE for what it is......
Lucha Underground is my new home
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NJPW / ROH / Lucha Underground are the best promotions going.
NXT is next, then WWE, and finally the shell of a company that is TNA.
Although, I am really enjoying listening to Matt Hardy say "Brother Nero" every 5 minutes and I don't know why.
(Also didn't realize Jeff's real middle name was Nero until all of this started, so there's that.)
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Tonight on Raw, vs Enzo and Cass, first time in a long time I seen WWE use local jobbers.
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At first I didn't see what the big deal was about AJ Styles but he has really grown on me.
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At first I didn't see what the big deal was about AJ Styles but he has really grown on me.
He may be my second favorite wrestler of all time.
That's just me of course.
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At first I didn't see what the big deal was about AJ Styles but he has really grown on me.
Listen to his interview with Austin...very humble and down to earth.
There is alot of money to be made with AJ vs Rollins, Finn, Ambrose etc etc. He made Reigns look like a million bucks.
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At first I didn't see what the big deal was about AJ Styles but he has really grown on me.
He is that way in real life (backstage).
Real class act.
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He is that way in real life (backstage).
Real class act.
Reminds me a lot of Ricky Steamboat in several ways.
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He is that way in real life (backstage).
Real class act.
Very hard worker too. Very well liked among his peers across the globe.
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Listened to Dean Ambrose on the stone cold podcast the other day and it confirmed what l thought, Dean is so good at promos because he's not really playing a character but just being himself.
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Listened to Dean Ambrose on the stone cold podcast the other day and it confirmed what l thought, Dean is so good at promos because he's not really playing a character but just being himself.
I think his real life is interesting, his attitude and persona, but I thought his promos were bad. It's strange to me that people think they're good (I'm not saying you're wrong).
Side note I think Rollins and Owens cut the best promos in the Fed next to Cena.
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I think his real life is interesting, his attitude and persona, but I thought his promos were bad. It's strange to me that people think they're good (I'm not saying you're wrong).
Side note I think Rollins and Owens cut the best promos in the Fed next to Cena.
I see what you are saying about Ambrose. I will concede that the content of his promos are great but he is always relaxed and doesn't stutter and stammer much. The delivery is great IMO.
Rollins I think is pretty bad at promos but has gotten slightly better. Reigns sucks. I agree Owens is pretty good.
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Must say this, Titus Oneil did a horrible promo this week. Thankfully Bob Backlund came out to put him in the chucked wing. He kept messing up words and completely screwing up what he was saying. I had no idea he was that bad at talking.
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Must say this, Titus Oneil did a horrible promo this week. Thankfully Bob Backlund came out to put him in the chucked wing. He kept messing up words and completely screwing up what he was saying. I had no idea he was that bad at talking.
He'll be "future endeavored" eventually. He's dead would and has been since he came up from NXT.
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I would like to fornicate Dana Brooke.
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I would like to fornicate Dana Brooke.
I second that 8)
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I'm not a big fan of American Alpha.
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Some funny memes if you are a James Ellsworth fan.
http://heavy.com/sports/2016/10/james-ellsworth-wwe-wrestler-best-funniest-online-memes-gallery-roman-reigns-vince-mcmahon-sonny-boy-braun-strowman-universal-championship/10/amp/ (http://heavy.com/sports/2016/10/james-ellsworth-wwe-wrestler-best-funniest-online-memes-gallery-roman-reigns-vince-mcmahon-sonny-boy-braun-strowman-universal-championship/10/amp/)
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I just lost a lot of respect for Booker T. He's entitled to his opinion but I disagree with him. James Ellsworth is over big time with the fans and his run should continue. He also seems like a great dude, not to mention he's very entertaining. At least the only person who matters likes him (Vincent McMahon).
Quote from booker T. Source Tpww.net
His Thoughts on James Ellsworth: It is old. I’m tired of seeing James Ellsworth. This kid had one hell of a run, but send him back to the independents. I’ve seen this guy at a convention, I was appalled, but this guy is going to live this run for quite some time. He’s probably getting a good price out there on the Indy show. They’re probably bringing him in as an attraction, but the thing of it is, me personally I’m not a hater, but you must ride it for as long as you can. Look at Hornswoggle, he worked with WWE for 6-7 years, you can’t hate people like that, but you wonder how James Ellsworth fit into the WWE mold? It just makes you wonder. There are people in my Reality of Wrestling just scratching at the door, so when I see Ellsworth, there’s just gotta be a way, but you have to wait your turn, but it’s definitely getting a little old.
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Much respect for Ellsworth BUT he is being relegated to Santino Morella, latter stages Damian Sandow status i:e comic relief...
How about those Vaudvillains huh...buried!!
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Much respect for Ellsworth BUT he is being relegated to Santino Morella, latter stages Damian Sandow status i:e comic relief...
How about those Vaudvillains huh...buried!!
Vaudevillians buried big time!
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Vaudevillians buried big time!
They stunk anyway
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They stunk anyway
I may have to come out of retirement...
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Agree completely with Booker T on his take on Ellsworth.
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I may have to come out of retirement...
I may have to join you...
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Nothing against Beckly Lynch and Alexa Bliss they are both good but the TLC tables match proved that Sasha and Charlotte are one a whole other level. Crowd was very quite during women's tables match. Sasha and Flair the crowd is always going crazy.
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Funny video of Bailey and Carmella singing WWE themes.
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I love this Jack Gallagher character.
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http://www.sescoops.com/upset-mother-responds-to-kevin-owens-yelling-at-her-young-son-video/ (http://www.sescoops.com/upset-mother-responds-to-kevin-owens-yelling-at-her-young-son-video/)
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Not gonna lie, watching Jericho up in the air in the shark cage totally made me think of Owen Hart. The whole
segment was cringe worthy. Especially when they were talking about the safety of the shark cage. :-\
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Not gonna lie, watching Jericho up in the air in the shark cage totally made me think of Owen Hart. The whole
segment was cringe worthy. Especially when they were talking about the safety of the shark cage. :-\
Yup...I thought I was the only one thinking that.
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Agree completely with Booker T on his take on Ellsworth.
Will be gone by this time next year...
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Congrats to Bray Wyatt. Like that it was a good clean win pinning Cena and Styles.
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Vaudevillians buried big time!
Gotch pissed off someone big time.
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Congrats to Bray Wyatt. Like that it was a good clean win pinning Cena and Styles.
it was a pretty good match,,cena has abs again,looked tighter than usual .he's been banged up lately..i don't like styles..wyatt/orton should be good when one turns?
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it was a pretty good match,,cena has abs again,looked tighter than usual .he's been banged up lately..i don't like styles..wyatt/orton should be good when one turns?
Don't like Styles? :o
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Pictor of Bray, Bo and sister.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ5i1KsFWMQ/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ5i1KsFWMQ/)
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After watching Roman Reigns get booed out of the building last night, my confidence in WWE has hit an all time low. Nobody is buying him as a top face. His in ring work is just ok, has a great look but cringeworthy on the mic.
He's just not working as a face. McMahon needs to look at the multiple chants from last night and realize Reigns is not over with the fans as packaged. He needs to be paired with someone more charismatic (shield anybody?) or give him someone to do the talking for him or just turn him heel already.
Fans are booing the shit out of him as a top face, imagine the reaction if he was a heel.
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After watching Roman Reigns get booed out of the building last night, my confidence in WWE has hit an all time low. Nobody is buying him as a top face. His in ring work is just ok, has a great look but cringeworthy on the mic.
He's just not working as a face. McMahon needs to look at the multiple chants from last night and realize Reigns is not over with the fans as packaged. He needs to be paired with someone more charismatic (shield anybody?) or give him someone to do the talking for him or just turn him heel already.
Fans are booing the shit out of him as a top face, imagine the reaction if he was a heel.
This is why the WWE now needs to capitalize on making him a full fledge heel. Fans yelling "Leave" and "Fuck you Roman" was priceless heat.
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After watching Roman Reigns get booed out of the building last night, my confidence in WWE has hit an all time low. Nobody is buying him as a top face. His in ring work is just ok, has a great look but cringeworthy on the mic.
He's just not working as a face. McMahon needs to look at the multiple chants from last night and realize Reigns is not over with the fans as packaged. He needs to be paired with someone more charismatic (shield anybody?) or give him someone to do the talking for him or just turn him heel already.
Fans are booing the shit out of him as a top face, imagine the reaction if he was a heel.
cena knows how to work the angle esp split crowd..
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cena knows how to work the angle esp split crowd..
The crowd isn't split on Reigns. Not like Cena.
Cena legit had a long run of huge pops. Now it's a mix.
It's like Angle drinking in the "You Suck" chants to his music. While Cena may get a mixed reaction, during his matches or promos, people usually listen.
When you are booed every time you bring a mic to your face, there's no mix... You're just Not liked.
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I see so basically cena goes backstage after match and he says man I got a good 'pop'tonite from crowd 'good mix',reins go backstage and says damn they really hate me FOR REAL please get me as a heel asap..
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I see so basically cena goes backstage after match and he says man I got a good 'pop'tonite from crowd 'good mix',reins go backstage and says damn they really hate me FOR REAL please get me as a heel asap..
Yeah, I think it has to be that way.
It's not Reigns' fault he's so hated... I mean, Daniel Bryan coming back and not winning the Royal Rumble in 2016 was pretty much the start of the downhill crumble.
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Yeah, I think it has to be that way.
It's not Reigns' fault he's so hated... I mean, Daniel Bryan coming back and not winning the Royal Rumble in 2016 was pretty much the start of the downhill crumble.
that's why triple h was great heel and he even got some cheers if he wrestled a guy who was inbetween heel/face,,,thats why orton works both ways as well he can be booed and cheered event to event..
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The crowd isn't split on Reigns. Not like Cena.
Cena legit had a long run of huge pops. Now it's a mix.
It's like Angle drinking in the "You Suck" chants to his music. While Cena may get a mixed reaction, during his matches or promos, people usually listen.
When you are booed every time you bring a mic to your face, there's no mix... You're just Not liked.
Angle is a good example. The fans popped big with the you suck chants but they were just doing it for fun. They don't actually believe Angle sucks, it just rhymes so well with his music.
Reigns on the other hand does not enjoy the chants regardless of what he says and the fans don't like him as packaged.
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The crowd isn't split on Reigns. Not like Cena.
Cena legit had a long run of huge pops. Now it's a mix.
It's like Angle drinking in the "You Suck" chants to his music. While Cena may get a mixed reaction, during his matches or promos, people usually listen.
When you are booed every time you bring a mic to your face, there's no mix... You're just Not liked.
Keep in mind that was the Raw after WrestleMania thing. Remember that Reigns got booed when he won the Rumble in Philly in 2015. In that same arena, the fans cheered for Reigns when he beat Sheamus for the WWE World title.
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Keep in mind that was the Raw after WrestleMania thing. Remember that Reigns got booed when he won the Rumble in Philly in 2015. In that same arena, the fans cheered for Reigns when he beat Sheamus for the WWE World title.
Yes, but a lot has changed from 2015 to today. People REALLY REALLY do not like the guy and they are even more upset that the WWE keeps pushing him as a face when they just don't like the guy.
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Yes, but a lot has changed from 2015 to today. People REALLY REALLY do not like the guy and they are even more upset that the WWE keeps pushing him as a face when they just don't like the guy.
This all stems from the Rumble in 2015. Reigns was voted 2014 Superstar of the Year. And it was Reigns' popularity that helped turn the Shield into babyfaces.
Some of the fans blame Reigns for getting the Rumble win and WrestleMania match against Lesnar for the title, when they wanted Daniel Bryan. But, WWE made the right call, in my view. Sorry, there's NOBODY that can sell me on Bryan beating Lesnar for the belt.
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In the words of Bobby Heenan...."Take all the writer's / creative and put them all in a room...then roll a hand grenade in there..."
Bring back 1999 ;D
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In the words of Bobby Heenan...."Take all the writer's / creative and put them all in a room...then roll a hand grenade in there..."
Bring back 1999 ;D
^^ This.
I really doubt we will ever see another apex at that level again.
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^^ This.
I really doubt we will ever see another apex at that level again.
How could we? There is absolutely no competition.
Pro leagues have figured out how to monopolize sport, I don't understand why they don't treat smackdown and raw like two separate teams that are competitors. They almost have the concept working with the nxt brand, but I'm sure they will wreck that too.
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How could we? There is absolutely no competition.
Pro leagues have figured out how to monopolize sport, I don't understand why they don't treat smackdown and raw like two separate teams that are competitors. They almost have the concept working with the nxt brand, but I'm sure they will wreck that too.
They actually do that, to a degree. Every RAW after WrestleMania, it's let-every-guy-on-the-main-roster-job-to-the-NXT-guys-night.
Now, they have guys doing an in-house THT. Notice how nearly all the new acquisitions on one brand lost on their previous brand just before leaving.
Charlotte moves to Smackdown; she loses on RAW to Nia Jax.
New Day moves to Smackdown; they lose twice to the Revival (who "injures" Kofi Kingston).
Kevin Owens jumps ship; he jobs to Dean Ambrose.
Ambrose moved to Raw; he jobs to Baron Corbin.
Alexa Bliss goes to RAW; Naomi makes her tap, just as she did 'Mania.
Jinder Mahal jobs to Finn Balor; next stop.....Smackdown.
Bray Wyatt loses in a tag match; he goes red.
Sami Zayn is the only guy I can recall who actually won his match on Raw before joining the blue team.
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Who is that Nakamura guy? He looks like a gay Funaki on crack.
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Who is that Nakamura guy? He looks like a gay Funaki on crack.
You don't know Shinsuke Nakamura?
He's maybe the best wrestler on the planet right now.
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You don't know Shinsuke Nakamura?
He's maybe the best wrestler on the planet right now.
I've seen clips of him from NXT, being heralded as the greatest thing since entrance music for wrestlers.
But, on Smackdown when confronting Dolph Ziggler, he looked like the biggest goof walking the planet.
My guess is that Ziggler will do the THT for him and end up on RAW the next week.
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Who is that Nakamura guy? He looks like a gay Funaki on crack.
You're joking right? :-\
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ziggler is good worker still mid-carder ,like to see him get push for a lesser title.
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ziggler is good worker still mid-carder ,like to see him get push for a lesser title.
He's perfect for the IC title circuit.
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He's perfect for the IC title circuit.
agree..i'm trying to watch and sorta keep up with new product,,i was watching some old school matches other night one of my fav's of all time snuka/muraco steel cage ,snuka headbutts muraco out of cage and loses but gets to snuka splash of top of cage on muraco,good bloody match.
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agree..i'm trying to watch and sorta keep up with new product,,i was watching some old school matches other night one of my fav's of all time snuka/muraco steel cage ,snuka headbutts muraco out of cage and loses but gets to snuka splash of top of cage on muraco,good bloody match.
And it kept the title on Muraco whilst keeping him heeled up while also keeping Snuka as a strong face despite the loss. Great story told here.
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And it kept the title on Muraco whilst keeping him heeled up while also keeping Snuka as a strong face despite the loss. Great story told here.
MURACO WAS GREAT ON THE MIC AS WELL BACKSTAGE OLD SCHOOL INTERVIEWS RIGHT BEFORE THE MATCH IN THE LOCKEROOM ,HE SPOKE MELLOW AND WITH THAT SMUG LOOK ONLY HE AND PIPER COULD GIVE ..
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MURACO WAS GREAT ON THE MIC AS WELL BACKSTAGE OLD SCHOOL INTERVIEWS RIGHT BEFORE THE MATCH IN THE LOCKEROOM ,HE SPOKE MELLOW AND WITH THAT SMUG LOOK ONLY HE AND PIPER COULD GIVE ..
I agree
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I agree
they turned muraco and piper for the most part faces later on,and piper was still piper for the most part but cheering for piper with his rowdy persona wasn't the same,,was he a face on the other territories he was in early 8o's
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they turned muraco and piper for the most part faces later on,and piper was still piper for the most part but cheering for piper with his rowdy persona wasn't the same,,was he a face on the other territories he was in early 8o's
I know he worked baby face before his Federation turn, but I can't remember exactly when or where. I want to say maybe in Portland, but I'm not certain.
I agree with you about the persona changing. Savage was similar with his face turn. I always loved Piper & Macho as faces, but ONLY JUST AFTER their respective turns because they were still essentially the same characters - just feuding with other heels.
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ziggler is good worker still mid-carder ,like to see him get push for a lesser title.
How many more times are you going to do that? He's been IC champion 4 or 5 times. He's been US champion at least twice (I think).
At this point, if he's not in the World title mix (whenever someone beats him, they exclaim that he beat a TWO-TIME world champion), he may as well go away.
And as I suspected, he jobbed to Nakamura. Only time will tell if he gets shipped to RAW.
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You're joking right? :-\
Actually, I should clarify. He looks like a GIANT gay Funaki on crack.
His music is cool, no question.
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How many more times are you going to do that? He's been IC champion 4 or 5 times. He's been US champion at least twice (I think).
At this point, if he's not in the World title mix (whenever someone beats him, they exclaim that he beat a TWO-TIME world champion), he may as well go away.
And as I suspected, he jobbed to Nakamura. Only time will tell if he gets shipped to RAW.
Ziggler would be better off moving out of the WWE at this point. He's a good worker, but he's just not what they want up top.
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Ziggler would be better off moving out of the WWE at this point. He's a good worker, but he's just not what they want up top.
He simply can't stay healthy. Jack Swagger packed his bags and bailed. Assuming he didn't already do so on that Smackdown dark match, Ziggler may be doing the old THT for Nakamura and heading for the bush leagues (or at minimum, he gets demoted to NXT).
Otherwise, he's the official jobber for the freshman class from NXT. Last year, it was Baron Corbin; this year, it's Shinsuke Nakamura
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Problem I see with Ziggler and Swagger is that they lost their fizzle. They are just glorified jobbers at this point and once you hit that point, there is no turning back. They have some great talents though in Bobby Roode and The Perfect 10.
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Problem I see with Ziggler and Swagger is that they lost their fizzle. They are just glorified jobbers at this point and once you hit that point, there is no turning back. They have some great talents though in Bobby Roode and The Perfect 10.
In Swagger's case, blame it on the weed. If he hadn't got popped after Elimination Chamber in 2013, I think he was slated to beat Del Rio for the World title at WM29.
If Ziggler is still on the main roster (or in WWE at all) next year, he'll just job for the latest flavor of the month from NXT.
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So I hear they are cutting 205 live down to 30 minutes. My thing is I'm not really interested in the new cruiserweight division. The reason being is that wrestling has changed a lot in the last 20 years and you have three hundred pound guys like Luke harper doing highflying moves that 15 years ago only cruiserweights did. I was a huge fan of the cruiserweight division back in the WCW days. I'm just not too interested in the new 205 Live cruiserweight division. In my opinion they should keep several of the superstars such as Jack Gallagher but get rid of the cruiserweight division and just incorporate them into the rest of the superstars.
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So I hear they are cutting 205 live down to 30 minutes. My thing is I'm not really interested in the new cruiserweight division. The reason being is that wrestling has changed a lot in the last 20 years and you have three hundred pound guys like Luke harper doing highflying moves that 15 years ago only cruiserweights did. I was a huge fan of the cruiserweight division back in the WCW days. I'm just not too interested in the new 205 Live cruiserweight division. In my opinion they should keep several of the superstars such as Jack Gallagher but get rid of the cruiserweight division and just incorporate them into the rest of the superstars.
NEVILLE IS GOOD,GOOD BUILD,ANF THAT OTHER GUY WHO IS IN GREAT SHAPE FORGOT NAME KINDA LIKE A SLIGHTLY SMALLER NEVILLE,GALLAGHER IS A TRIP LOL,,,THE GUY WHO COMES OUT TO THE VIDEO GAME SCREENSHOT LOOKS LIKE A SUPERCUTS BARBER WHO WRESTLES IN HIS BACK YARD AND WAS DISCOVERED FOR HIS HAIRCUT,,HE HAS GOOD MOVES BUT NO SIZE...
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Neville does some cool shit and looks good in the heel role.
But agree on the genre overall.
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NEVILLE IS GOOD,GOOD BUILD,ANF THAT OTHER GUY WHO IS IN GREAT SHAPE FORGOT NAME KINDA LIKE A SLIGHTLY SMALLER NEVILLE,GALLAGHER IS A TRIP LOL,,,THE GUY WHO COMES OUT TO THE VIDEO GAME SCREENSHOT LOOKS LIKE A SUPERCUTS BARBER WHO WRESTLES IN HIS BACK YARD AND WAS DISCOVERED FOR HIS HAIRCUT,,HE HAS GOOD MOVES BUT NO SIZE...
Wrestlers today don't look like wrestlers.
That is just one of MANY problems.
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The biggest issue -Belts/championships mean nothing....each brand 3-4 title switches in 4 months. Randy does nothing for me as a champ, thought they were strapping the rocket to Bray...haha, jokes on me
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The biggest issue -Belts/championships mean nothing....each brand 3-4 title switches in 4 months. Randy does nothing for me as a champ, thought they were strapping the rocket to Bray...haha, jokes on me
could you imagine if a title stayed strapped to 1 guy like back in the day 3/5 yrs or more...
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Wrestlers today don't look like wrestlers.
That is just one of MANY problems.
In the words of Bobby Heenan, "Get creative / upper mgmt all in a room, roll a hand grenade in there and lock the doors. Plug your ears as you leave quietly." 8)
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In the words of Bobby Heenan, "Get creative / upper mgmt all in a room, roll a hand grenade in there and lock the doors. Plug your ears as you leave quietly." 8)
HA, HA, HA!!!
I never heard him say that one, but it is definitely his style.
I even read that "in his voice!"
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Sasha Banks dancing. Just because. :)
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OMG did you guys here what the Usos said in the rap battle about Xavier Woods being rated R. ;D
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OMG did you guys here what the Usos said in the rap battle about Xavier Woods being rated R. ;D
The line was cut out of the YouTube video of the segment. ;D
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Bad move by WWE by canceling talking smack. >:(
It was one of the most entertaining things about Smackdown and allowed talent to talk off the cuff and not completely scripted, which is probably why the show was canceled. WWE today could be great but it just sucks.
Also Renee and and Daniel found out about the canceled show on Twitter.
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Would be money if they paired up Cena and Reigns as a heel tag team. They'll never do it but would be Awesome.
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They need to scrap the entire format and traditional wrestling set up at this point. No more heels or faces. Every week, a random lottery style drawing to pair up two different wrestlers to fight it out.
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Actually, I should clarify. He looks like a GIANT gay Funaki on crack.
His music is cool, no question.
Lol he is pretty spastic when he comes into the ring and has those convulsions on the mat ;D
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I actually enjoyed raw this week. However I found a little disturbing that a few of their angles involved some worked shoots based on dirt sheet rumors. Not sure if that's the new direction the writers Are going with or if it's just a occasional thing. But I kind a got the feeling that they are out of ideas and just have to make storylines out of dirt sheet rumors. Pandering to the smart marks.
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I actually enjoyed raw this week. However I found a little disturbing that a few of their angles involved some worked shoots based on dirt sheet rumors. Not sure if that's the new direction the writers Are going with or if it's just a occasional thing. But I kind a got the feeling that they are out of ideas and just have to make storylines out of dirt sheet rumors. Pandering to the smart marks.
CENA /REIGNS PLAYING TO THE CROWD,YOUR HATED IN THE LOCKEROOM,YOUR HOLLYWOOD/PART TIME WRESTLER NOW'CENA',,YOU CAN'T CARRY THE COMPANY LIKE I CAN FANS HATE YOU'REIGNS...
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CENA /REIGNS PLAYING TO THE CROWD,YOUR HATED IN THE LOCKEROOM,YOUR HOLLYWOOD/PART TIME WRESTLER NOW'CENA',,YOU CAN'T CARRY THE COMPANY LIKE I CAN FANS HATE YOU'REIGNS...
This is what they've got to resort to.
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This is what they've got to resort to.
That and bringing back former stars who put their time in and are now in other ventures doing other things in order to put butts in seats.
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I like Elias and his gimmick.
Songs are often entertaining and the guy has a great look.
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I cannot stand enzo amore..i see what they did with him to shake up the lower wght class on an entertainment level..he's too small to go with the big boys...I like Neville ..'he's big for a shorter guy but goofy looking as hell..
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Jason Jordan has the personality of a cucumber.
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When you don't have competition in North America, your product becomes stale. The best thing that ever happened to McDonald's was Burger King.
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When you don't have competition in North America, your product becomes stale. The best thing that ever happened to McDonald's was Burger King.
100% accurate!!!
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I attended RAW this week. Was a great show. Got to see the Shield come through the crowd for first time in 3.5 years. Also Kane coming through the ring to destroy Roman Reigns. :D
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I attended RAW this week. Was a great show. Got to see the Shield come through the crowd for first time in 3.5 years. Also Kane coming through the ring to destroy Roman Reigns. :D
Nice :) I was at Smackdown last time they were here.
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Who wants to walk with Elias? I do!
I'm very impressed with this guy. Great gimmick, great look and solid in the ring. I see big things in the future for Elias.
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Who wants to walk with Elias? I do!
I'm very impressed with this guy. Great gimmick, great look and solid in the ring. I see big things in the future for Elias.
He got the crowd going here by trying to sing Drake's Cell Phone Bling track with his guitar. Love it.
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WWE doesn't even know the names of their own wrestlers :-\
Bobby Rhodes ???
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Nakamura was my pick to win the Royal Rumble and he won. Yay me!
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Prediction for women's Royal Rumble is:
Asuka
Nia Jax
Bailey
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Prediction for women's Royal Rumble is:
Asuka
Nia Jax
Bailey
I was right again, Asuka wins. I'm 2/2 for this years Royal Rumble. ;D
Both winners Japanese.
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I was right again, Asuka wins. I'm 2/2 for this years Royal Rumble. ;D
Both winners Japanese.
I wonder if they're setting the stage for some kind of invasion angle.
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From what I understand, due to his RR win Nakamora will face AJ at WM. This will be a sick match going back to their New Japan days. Lesner versus Roman Reigns part 2 is in ... they are STILL trying to force feed Reigns down peoples throat. Here's the big one...from what I understand now this is RUMOR only... Cena versus Undertaker (Cena needs a grand opponent) OR Cena versus Braun Strowman in a Hulk versus Andre type scenario but in 2018 age.
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From what I understand, due to his RR win Nakamora will face AJ at WM. This will be a sick match going back to their New Japan days. Lesner versus Roman Reigns part 2 is in ... they are STILL trying to force feed Reigns down peoples throat. Here's the big one...from what I understand now this is RUMOR only... Cena versus Undertaker (Cena needs a grand opponent) OR Cena versus Braun Strowman in a Hulk versus Andre type scenario but in 2018 age.
I haven't been paying much attention to the current shows.
How would they justify bringing back Taker (other than it's standard practice for a wrestler to return after a retirement)?
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I haven't been paying much attention to the current shows.
How would they justify bringing back Taker (other than it's standard practice for a wrestler to return after a retirement)?
TBH IMO they are so desperate to fill a stadium that they have no choice but to bring back these older guys based off their star power. Who would you pay 200-1000 dollars per ticket (on average) to see live at Wrestlemania? The Undertaker or Jinder Mahal? Plus, we all as fans assumed it was Taker's last match which IMO is should have ended with his loss to Brock.
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I was right again, Asuka wins. I'm 2/2 for this years Royal Rumble. ;D
Both winners Japanese.
Yes. They should both take their earnings and hire a trainer and dietician now.
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So why did Dolph give up the US Championship just to return 3 weeks later ::)
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So why did Dolph give up the US Championship just to return 3 weeks later ::)
My guess is that they had a contract dispute when getting him to resign. His character has no creative direction what so ever and its kind of sad as he is a good talent.
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I like what they are doing with Strowman and Alexa Bliss in the mixed match tournament. Some good moments between the two.
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Can someone explain to me which company EC3 is with? It seems like he is on both Impact and Nxt ???
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I like what they are doing with Strowman and Alexa Bliss in the mixed match tournament. Some good moments between the two.
Really? I find it hurts his character. They're taking an "unstoppable monster" and turning him into a "softy".
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Really? I find it hurts his character. They're taking an "unstoppable monster" and turning him into a "softy".
they did it to kane too if I recall a few times...
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Really? I find it hurts his character. They're taking an "unstoppable monster" and turning him into a "softy".
A monster among men would still have a raging sex drive no? ;D
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A monster among men would still have a raging sex drive no? ;D
And probably hung like a Wolly Mammoth...for little 5ft miss Bliss... :o
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I think it’s great that a few years ago the Miz was reduced to a glorified jobber and now he’s one of the most entertaining superstars at the top of the card.
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I think it’s great that a few years ago the Miz was reduced to a glorified jobber and now he’s one of the most entertaining superstars at the top of the card.
That guy works his butt off.
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I think it’s great that a few years ago the Miz was reduced to a glorified jobber and now he’s one of the most entertaining superstars at the top of the card.
Why does the WWE now call their wrestlers 'superstars' and 'divas'?
Vince McMahon apparently insisted on this, they can now only be referred to as 'superstars' or athletes and not wrestlers.
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Why does the WWE now call their wrestlers 'superstars' and 'divas'?
Vince McMahon apparently insisted on this, they can now only be referred to as 'superstars' or athletes and not wrestlers.
There’s a list floating around out there full of terms the announcers should and shouldn’t use.
I guess Vince thinks they seem bigger by having the title of superstar.
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There’s a list floating around out there full of terms the announcers should and shouldn’t use.
I guess Vince thinks they seem bigger by having the title of superstar.
This reminds me of back when the old man changed all the marquees from displaying the wrestlers' names to simply "WWF."
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Couple random thoughts:
I sure hope we see Rock vs Elias at Wrestlemania. I’m a huge Elias mark.
Interesting that Becky Lynch turned heel but not sure how it will go over since she seems to be well loved by the fans. Not sure if they will boo her.
Glad they made Baron Corbin the Constable. Better than his previous gimmick.
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Couple random thoughts:
I sure hope we see Rock vs Elias at Wrestlemania. I’m a huge Elias mark.
Interesting that Becky Lynch turned heel but not sure how it will go over since she seems to be well loved by the fans. Not sure if they will boo her.
Glad they made Baron Corbin the Constable. Better than his previous gimmick.
As of now the rumour is the main event for WM next year will be Roman Reigns vs The Rock. They are hoping by The Rock putting "over" Reigns will cement him as a true face. ::)
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As of now the rumour is the main event for WM next year will be Roman Reigns vs The Rock. They are hoping by The Rock putting "over" Reigns will cement him as a true face. ::)
Never been a fan of family feuds in wrestling. Or even between guys you know are best friends like Hall and Nash.
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Really good segment with Elias and Trish Stratus this week.
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Really good segment with Elias and Trish Stratus this week.
That was good...Elias was just mowing her down with insult after insult...wow.
Reigns still getting booed out of the building. When are they going to realize that this formula simply is not working. No one cares about the "big dog". They cheer the Shield...not Roman. They may have cheered when he won but that's because everyone was sick of Lesner never defending and holding the title hostage via his contract. Now I see they are so desperate that they have turned Strowman heel in a desperate attempt to have Reigns cheered....wrong....they Cheered Strowman for beating the shit out of Roman.
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That was good...Elias was just mowing her down with insult after insult...wow.
Reigns still getting booed out of the building. When are they going to realize that this formula simply is not working. No one cares about the "big dog". They cheer the Shield...not Roman. They may have cheered when he won but that's because everyone was sick of Lesner never defending and holding the title hostage via his contract. Now I see they are so desperate that they have turned Strowman heel in a desperate attempt to have Reigns cheered....wrong....they Cheered Strowman for beating the shit out of Roman.
Yeah it’s kind of weird. When I went to raw in October I cheered Reigns when he came out with the SHIELD then booed him when he came out solo for his match.
He could be a face but just not the way they book him. He actually needs Heyman since Roman can’t cut a promo worth dick.
I won’t boo Strowman as a heel, plus I think this is a fake heel turn and he will go back to being face very soon.
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Yeah it’s kind of weird. When I went to raw in October I cheered Reigns when he came out with the SHIELD then booed him when he came out solo for his match.
He could be a face but just not the way they book him. He actually needs Heyman since Roman can’t cut a promo worth dick.
I won’t boo Strowman as a heel, plus I think this is a fake heel turn and he will go back to being face very soon.
Raw was in my town last week but I didn't bother getting tickets because I knew the card wasn't worth it.
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I’m really digging the Iconics. Two hot Australian chicks, especially Billie Kay :P
They work very well together and seem to feed off each other sort of like the new day. I like their high pitch cackling voices, good for generating heat. Not sure on their in ring abilities yet as I’ve only seen a few matches but so far they don’t look horrible.
I hope they win the female tag titles if and when the females get tag titles.
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1) Redesign the belt, it looks terrible. Make it look valuable and prestigious and the most important item in wrestling. Never use it as a prop, as it is supposed to have value, and respect the belt like in Japanese wrestling. And don't change champion belt holders too often, the title loses prestige.
2) Redesign the surrounding stadium so it doesn't look so commercial and bland. Allow fans to sit closer to the ring like before.
3) Bring back some element of kayfabe, at least try and make it look and seem more believable.
4) No more scripted dialogue.
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3) Bring back some element of kayfabe, at least try and make it look and seem more believable.
Vince attracted a broader audience in the 90's by "pulling back the curtain" and admitting that pro-wrestling's a work.
It worked because conceding that it's simply another form of "entertainment" removed a lot of the "sting" fans felt from belittling critics who used to dismiss it as something "everyone knows isn't 'real.'"
The rapidly growing fanbase (with their "new respect" for the business) soon became as/more interested in the backstage aspect as/than the scripted product.
However, that same tactic also became tired and overused - particularly with less and less interesting performers.
The lost novelty and mystique has relegated professional wrestling to an antiquated paradigm.
Just like a magician cannot expose the secrets and then "take them back," there will/can never again be "true" kayfabe, or anything like it.
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1) Redesign the belt, it looks terrible. Make it look valuable and prestigious and the most important item in wrestling. Never use it as a prop, as it is supposed to have value, and respect the belt like in Japanese wrestling. And don't change champion belt holders too often, the title loses prestige.
2) Redesign the surrounding stadium so it doesn't look so commercial and bland. Allow fans to sit closer to the ring like before.
3) Bring back some element of kayfabe, at least try and make it look and seem more believable.
4) No more scripted dialogue.
Agreed on ALL points.
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Can’t believe WWE hasn’t signed this chick. I was thinking how much she reminded me of a female Rhyno then the announces says the same thing.
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Keep an eye on Tessa Blanchard - Tully's daughter on Impact Wrestling....she is good.
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Becky Lynch is on fire! Let’s see how long it takes WWE to bury here. She’s super over right now.
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Becky Lynch is on fire! Let’s see how long it takes WWE to bury here. She’s super over right now.
Becky broke her orbital bone and suffered a concussion on a stiff right hand from Nia Jax in that malee in the ring on Raw when the Ladies of Smackdown raided the Raw show. She is now out of the SS match with Ronda Rousy and has been replaced by Charlotte. Now the second question is will they strip her of the title.
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Becky broke her orbital bone and suffered a concussion on a stiff right hand from Nia Jax in that malee in the ring on Raw when the Ladies of Smackdown raided the Raw show. She is now out of the SS match with Ronda Rousy and has been replaced by Charlotte. Now the second question is will they strip her of the title.
I just read that she only has broken nose and a concussion. No orbital bone broken, that’s what would keep her out longer. I don’t think she’ll be stripped of the title.
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I just read that she only has broken nose and a concussion. No orbital bone broken, that’s what would keep her out longer. I don’t think she’ll be stripped of the title.
I hope they don't strip her of the title....seems to me they are going overboard with this concussion bullshit. Wrestlers in the 70's, 80's and 90's never had these issues. Seems now, every other person is "hurt" and unable to perform. Pansey's? I think so.
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Does anyone have links to the Toni Storm pics?
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Does anyone have links to the Toni Storm pics?
Ha ha ha ha !!!! I was thinking the same thing and I know why you want pics too ;D ;D
#vividvideos :o
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Ha ha ha ha !!!! I was thinking the same thing and I know why you want pics too ;D ;D
#vividvideos :o
Come on guys don’t hold out on me! Get me the nudes, it’s crack one off time! 😀
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Come on guys don’t hold out on me! Get me the nudes, it’s crack one off time! 😀
I haven't got any but I'm sure there's shit on google. :D