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Athiests dont believe in have a jawline neither.
Literally beat me to that exact line.
I am losing respect for this beard movement daily. When your beard looks like the work of laziness instead of fashion or masculinity, you're doing it wrong. Buy a razor, get a job.
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Hi my names Darren,
I don't believe in God or religion because I have common sense.
Something many billions lack.
Thank you
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Hi my names Darren,
I don't believe in God or religion because I have common sense.
Something many billions lack.
Thank you
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Hi my names Darren,
I don't believe in God or religion because I have common sense.
Something many billions lack.
Thank you
Bingo
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he he
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Literally beat me to that exact line.
I am losing respect for this beard movement daily. When your beard looks like the work of laziness instead of fashion or masculinity, you're doing it wrong. Buy a razor, get a job.
When a chiseled jaw is visible under the beard it is best. Having a neck beard on your jowls is NOT part of the new hotness.
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Hi my names Darren,
I don't believe in God or religion because I have common sense.
Something many billions lack.
Thank you
Bingo
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tee hee the battle has begun!
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Hi my names Darren,
I don't believe in God or religion because I have common sense.
Something many billions lack.
Thank you
You don't believe in God or religion because you are a brainless atheist. Pick up a Bible, and get yourself informed.
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I don't care what people believe in as long as it doesn't impede on my family's freedoms.
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tee hee the battle has begun!
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another one of these stupid threads
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They'll all make good fuel for hell fire. Anyone else that feels the same way. You reject Christ, you're going to hell, period dot.
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They'll all make good fuel for hell fire. Anyone else that feels the same way. You reject Christ, you're going to hell, period dot.
Amen to that.
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They'll all make good fuel for hell fire. Anyone else that feels the same way. You reject Christ, you're going to hell, period dot.
And now, just prove it? We never see that happen, because you can't do it, and that is the difference between intelligent person, and religious one. There isn't such thing than intelligent believer, that is an oxymoron. At the personal level difference is also quite clear: you believe whatever fictive bullshit and never even think to ask evidence, I believe proven facts. For you, your way is in your mind some kind of mark of intelligence, while everybody else see it as a mental handicap. Believing fictional things is what the children's do, because adults tells fairy tales to them. When you grow up, you should develop a mind which can tell the difference between facts and fiction. Religion is strongest there, where is average IQ is lowest, and where is a highest average IQ, religion plays only little part. What that means is that evolution is cleaning religions from this planet, because average intelligence is rising and number of religious people is descending. It may take a while but this is happening..
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They'll all make good fuel for hell fire. Anyone else that feels the same way. You reject Christ, you're going to hell, period dot.
Thats what your brainwashed parents wanted you to believe... Now go pass your bullshit stories to the next doomed generation... ::)
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And now, just prove it? We never see that happen, because you can't do it, and that is the difference between intelligent person, and religious one. There isn't such thing than intelligent believer, that is an oxymoron. At the personal level difference is also quite clear: you believe whatever fictive bullshit and never even think to ask evidence, I believe proven facts. For you, your way is in your mind some kind of mark of intelligence, while everybody else see it as a mental handicap. Believing fictional things is what the children's do, because adults tells fairy tales to them. When you grow up, you should develop a mind which can tell the difference between facts and fiction. Religion is strongest there, where is average IQ is lowest, and where is a highest average IQ, religion plays only little part. What that means is that evolution is cleaning religions from this planet, because average intelligence is rising and number of religious people is descending. It may take a while but this is happening..
I stopped reading at prove it. I'm not getting into proving there's a God on an internet board. You can believe what you want. I honestly don't care. I feel sorry for you burning in hell for stupidity, that's as much as you'll get from me. This book, my people's book is here for a reason. You don't want to believe and believe all these stupid theories of evolution and big bang, with zero proof, have fun. Don't say you weren't warned. Majority of the people on this planet believe in a higher being, atheists are the stupidest people on this planet by far. You all deserve what's coming. Good riddance.
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I never claimed to be intelligent (im not) but I have common sense.They re 2 different things.
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I stopped reading at prove it. I'm not getting into proving there's a God on an internet board. You can believe what you want. I honestly don't care. I feel sorry for you burning in hell for stupidity, that's as much as you'll get from me. This book, my people's book is here for a reason. You don't want to believe and believe all these stupid theories of evolution and big bang, with zero proof, have fun. Don't say you weren't warned. Majority of the people on this planet believe in a higher being, atheists are the stupidest people on this planet by far. You all deserve what's coming. Good riddance.
Well, as you are so eager to burn everybody in hell fire, tell me this: there is this humble me, who is going to burn in hell, and there is this catholic priest, who rape little boys. How come we are in same line what comes to going hell? This god of yours seem to be an idiot, because punishment should fit the crime, and in his books it doesn't. Sin is a sin, and it will be punished with fire of hell. Then there is this Hitler- dude, Saddam, those fucking slave traders which are only reason why you aren't currently running in the jungle with a bone in your nose. All of them will equally burn in hell, so what is the point? A sin is a sin, so it doesn't make any fucking difference what we do on earth, because we all will burn in hell...or not. Because it doesn't matter what you have done, if you repent, all will be forgiven. So your god did leave a back door, which anybody can use. How convenient is that? You can rape and kill, do what ever you like, and you still go to heaven if your repent..So fuck your hell fire, nobody cares about it, because we all use that back door ;D
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Just take this stuff to the religion board.
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I never claimed to be intelligent (im not) but I have common sense.They re 2 different things.
Common sense is the way intelligence is reflected in everyday life..
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Just take this stuff to the religion board.
Just take this stuff and let it burn in hell ;D
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Just take this stuff and let it burn in hell ;D
Trust me, I'm sick of these threads also.
Although, I'm happy to discuss my faith with those that want truly want to discuss. I won't insult you, curse at you or threaten you with burning in hell. No doubt hell is a part of the scripture, but the focus should always be Christ. I want people to know Christ and perhaps experience him like I have.
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Well, as you are so eager to burn everybody in hell fire, tell me this: there is this humble me, who is going to burn in hell, and there is this catholic priest, who rape little boys. How come we are in same line what comes to going hell? This god of yours seem to be an idiot, because punishment should fit the crime, and in his books it doesn't. Sin is a sin, and it will be punished with fire of hell. Then there is this Hitler- dude, Saddam, those fucking slave traders which are only reason why you aren't currently running in the jungle with a bone in your nose. All of them will equally burn in hell, so what is the point? A sin is a sin, so it doesn't make any fucking difference what we do on earth, because we all will burn in hell...or not. Because it doesn't matter what you have done, if you repent, all will be forgiven. So your god did leave a back door, which anybody can use. How convenient is that? You can rape and kill, do what ever you like, and you still go to heaven if your repent..So fuck your hell fire, nobody cares about it, because we all use that back door ;D
I'm not eager to burn anyone. I'm telling you what the Bible says for those that reject Christ and don't follow his laws, statutes and commandments. Those are the people. Roman-Catholicism is garbage. It was made up off the Bible from the Hebrews. And yes, the kiddy fiddlers will burn as well. A sin, is a sin. Whether it's homosexuality or fornication. It's all the same in the eyes of God if there is no repentance. Repentance means to change your ways. It's not just a thing of asking for forgiveness. You must follow the 10 Commandments, study the Bible to show yourself approved, follow the dietary laws, You're so uninformed you're spewing out false doctrine that these fake ass Christian pastors have been spewing the last several hundred years.
REPENT, means to CHANGE YOUR WAYS. It doesn't mean asking God for forgiveness, then continue to do evil. If you're not doing what I said above, you should worry about your soul. No one is perfect, but you should strive to be.
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Man of Steel do you consider a Buddhist in deep meditation chanting the sutras, a yogi sitting in lotus posture in the Himalayas in deep meditation, a native american chief imbibed with peyote singing his sacred songs, a sufi whirling dervish, a Christian mystic in his hermitage sitting in utter silence.... to be experiencing Christ?
Or does Christ only come in to ones life when you say " Lord Jesus I accept you in to my heart, I am a sinner, save me"
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Thats what your brainwashed parents wanted you to believe... Now go pass your bullshit stories to the next doomed generation... ::)
The Bible is incontestable fact. You fail to see that as you are a brainwashed atheist mongbot. Let's see you cry 'bullshit' when you're being burnt like a suckling pig in hellfire. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha.
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And now, just prove it? We never see that happen, because you can't do it, and that is the difference between intelligent person, and religious one. There isn't such thing than intelligent believer, that is an oxymoron. At the personal level difference is also quite clear: you believe whatever fictive bullshit and never even think to ask evidence, I believe proven facts. For you, your way is in your mind some kind of mark of intelligence, while everybody else see it as a mental handicap. Believing fictional things is what the children's do, because adults tells fairy tales to them. When you grow up, you should develop a mind which can tell the difference between facts and fiction. Religion is strongest there, where is average IQ is lowest, and where is a highest average IQ, religion plays only little part. What that means is that evolution is cleaning religions from this planet, because average intelligence is rising and number of religious people is descending. It may take a while but this is happening..
Evolution is nonsense. You believe in atheist fairytales; don't confuse them with facts, son.
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Evolution is nonsense. You believe in atheist fairytales; don't confuse them with facts, son.
Drink that mocha espresso. And look at you, feeling a little naughty with that alcoholic beverage. You little tease, you. ;) ;)
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The Bible is incontestable fact. You fail to see that as you are a brainwashed atheist mongbot. Let's see you cry 'bullshit' when you're being burnt like a suckling pig in hellfire. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha.
I despise your methods on here. How you misrepresent Christ and Christians via your various Christian gimmick accounts.
If by some chance you actually happen to be a believer I would encourage you to rethink how you speak to people.
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Drink that mocha espresso. And look at you, feeling a little naughty with that alcoholic beverage. You little tease, you. ;) ;)
“When I began my career as a cosmologist some 20 yrs ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics.”
Frank Tipler, Professor of Mathematical Physics, Tipler, F.J. 1994. 'The Physics Of Immortality'. New York, Doubleday.
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I'm not eager to burn anyone. I'm telling you what the Bible says for those that reject Christ and don't follow his laws, statutes and commandments. Those are the people. Roman-Catholicism is garbage. It was made up off the Bible from the Hebrews. And yes, the kiddy fiddlers will burn as well. A sin, is a sin. Whether it's homosexuality or fornication. It's all the same in the eyes of God if there is no repentance. Repentance means to change your ways. It's not just a thing of asking for forgiveness. You must follow the 10 Commandments, study the Bible to show yourself approved, follow the dietary laws, You're so uninformed you're spewing out false doctrine that these fake ass Christian pastors have been spewing the last several hundred years.
REPENT, means to CHANGE YOUR WAYS. It doesn't mean asking God for forgiveness, then continue to do evil. If you're not doing what I said above, you should worry about your soul. No one is perfect, but you should strive to be.
So now you bigot imbecile try to tell me what bible I should read? Please explain how we sinners would find a right one among the thousands of different versions, which all have millions of bigot idiots as followers? Is this how your god shows his mighty, he let every fucking assclown put up his own denomination, write his own version of bible, and spread any given bullshit as religion? In your bible is written that gods word is law, and it should be obeyed..but which god? Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Akal Purakh, Jehova, Bahá'í, Elohim or Shàngdì? They are all god's with billions of followers, so how you will be so fucking sure that you are believing at the right version? Because you believe you are, and I believe you are wrong. In fact, I believe you are an idiot ;D
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Evolution is nonsense. You believe in atheist fairytales; don't confuse them with facts, son.
If it is nonsense, it would be easy to prove it is. Why don't you?
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So now you bigot imbecile try to tell me what bible I should read? Please explain how we sinners would find a right one among the thousands of different versions, which all have millions of bigot idiots as followers? Is this how your god shows his mighty, he let every fucking assclown put up his own denomination, write his own version of bible, and spread any given bullshit as religion? In your bible is written that gods word is law, and it should be obeyed..but which god? Allah, Buddha, Vishnu, Akal Purakh, Jehova, Bahá'í, Elohim or Shàngdì? They are all god's with billions of followers, so how you will be so fucking sure that you are believing at the right version? Because you believe you are, and I believe you are wrong. In fact, I believe you are an idiot ;D
Zhe ge shang di qi shi zhi shi ying yu de God. Ni zhen de shi ge da bai chi yin wei ni gen ben bu ming bai zheng ge tian di zhi you yi ge shang di. Zhi you yi ge. Ni li bu li jie? In other words, "shang di" is merely the Mandarin equivalent of God, and you are a dunce for not knowing the difference between God and gods (idols, fakes). Are you able to at least apprehend as much?
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Some of you people on here are absolutely fucked in the head. Out of the billions of galaxies that exist out there, made up of billions of stars, with billions of planets surrounding them, you really believe in some book someone read to you as a child? That when you die you will go to heaven or hell? How can you be sure what happens? Just be a good person, you don't need a god for that.
http://twistedsifter.com/2012/10/putting-the-size-of-the-observable-universe-in-perspective/
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Some of you people on here are absolutely fucked in the head. Out of the billions of galaxies that exist out there, made up of billions of stars, with billions of planets surrounding them, you really believe in some book someone read to you as a child? That when you die you will go to heaven or hell? How can you be sure what happens? Just be a good person, you don't need a god for that.
http://twistedsifter.com/2012/10/putting-the-size-of-the-observable-universe-in-perspective/
what if heaven is just another name of returning to getbig with mod status? i bet that would make you a believer
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Some of you people on here are absolutely fucked in the head. Out of the billions of galaxies that exist out there, made up of billions of stars, with billions of planets surrounding them, you really believe in some book someone read to you as a child? That when you die you will go to heaven or hell? How can you be sure what happens? Just be a good person, you don't need a god for that.
http://twistedsifter.com/2012/10/putting-the-size-of-the-observable-universe-in-perspective/
That book is the truth, the Good Book. Everything the Bible says is verified fact so cease from running from reality. The staggering span of the universe only serves to attest the puissance of the Creator, and His wrath shall descend upon your puny mortal frame if you reject Him and His laws. Only evil people deny their own Maker; it is impossible to be a "good person" without God.
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Everything the Bible says is verified fact so cease from running from reality.
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Geez, here we go again. These threads are pointless...
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If it is nonsense, it would be easy to prove it is.
Yes, exactly. That is why evolution was debunked by science ages ago. Try to keep up, will you?
THE ABSURD NOTION OF BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION, ESPECIALLY FROM NON-LIVING AND MINDLESS CHEMICAL ELEMENTS, DEFIES THESE SCIENTIFIC LAWS, PRINCIPLES OR THEOREMS:
1st & 2nd LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS [CONSERVATION OF ENERGY; EVER INCREASING ENTROPY/BIOLOGICAL ENTROPY RESP.]
LAW OF BIOGENESIS [LIFE FROM NONLIVING IS IMPOSSIBLE I.E. ABIOGENESIS]
INFORMATION SCIENCE & THEOREMS
MENDELIAN GENETICS
BREEDING LIMITATIONS [VARIATION LIMITED TO WITHIN KIND, NO CROSS BREEDING BETWEEN KINDS]
HALDANE'S DILEMMA
CHEMICAL LAWS
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The facts. The opposite of reality (which I told you) is nonsense, wherein you believe. Keep your head in the sand. The real world is too frightening for you.
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Yes, exactly. That is why evolution was debunked by science ages ago. Try to keep up, will you?
THE ABSURD NOTION OF BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION, ESPECIALLY FROM NON-LIVING AND MINDLESS CHEMICAL ELEMENTS, DEFIES THESE SCIENTIFIC LAWS, PRINCIPLES OR THEOREMS:
1st & 2nd LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS [CONSERVATION OF ENERGY; EVER INCREASING ENTROPY/BIOLOGICAL ENTROPY RESP.]
LAW OF BIOGENESIS [LIFE FROM NONLIVING IS IMPOSSIBLE I.E. ABIOGENESIS]
INFORMATION SCIENCE & THEOREMS
MENDELIAN GENETICS
BREEDING LIMITATIONS [VARIATION LIMITED TO WITHIN KIND, NO CROSS BREEDING BETWEEN KINDS]
HALDANE'S DILEMMA
CHEMICAL LAWS
Why such a sour puss on your face? :'( :'( :'(
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Athiests.
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The facts. The opposite of reality (which I told you) is nonsense, wherein you believe. Keep your head in the sand. The real world is too frightening for you.
You've got to be a troll. I can't believe anyone would be this dumb. But then again you never know.
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You've got to be a troll. I can't believe anyone would be this dumb. But then again you never know.
DING! DING! DING!
We have a winner!! What do we have for him Johnny?!
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I stopped reading at prove it. I'm not getting into proving there's a God on an internet board. You can believe what you want. I honestly don't care. I feel sorry for you burning in hell for stupidity, that's as much as you'll get from me. This book, my people's book is here for a reason. You don't want to believe and believe all these stupid theories of evolution and big bang, with zero proof, have fun. Don't say you weren't warned. Majority of the people on this planet believe in a higher being, atheists are the stupidest people on this planet by far. You all deserve what's coming. Good riddance.
which is a very common reaction among believers when faced with anything that doesn't support their belief. Which is the very reason religious beliefs have survived this long....
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LOL!! This thread isn't legitimate folks.
It's an atheist baiting believers with a Christian gimmick (Ron Harrigan) and attracting other atheists for idiotic discussion.
Atheist: "Religion kills."
Ron Harrigan: "Oh poor chap, you'll burn in hell."
C'mon already....stop feeding the troll!!!
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Funny how atheists spend a lot of their time trying to prove the non existence of something that never existed.
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MOS, do you think God wanted Russell Wilson to go to the Super Bowl more than Aaron Rodgers?
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Funny how atheists spend a lot of their time trying to prove the non existence of something that never existed.
No, the atheist proposition is that they aren't required to prove or disprove anything. They place the burden of proof on the theist who makes the initial and/or affirmative claim.
All atheism represents is a lack of belief in God or gods due to the rejection of all available evidence. Further claims of insufficient evidence (in spite of their presuppositions) or a claim of a "total lack of any evidence whatsoever" (this statement often peppered with references to "flying spaghetti monsters", "storybooks written by ancient goat herders", "fairytales", "how did Noah get every species in the ark" and "the man in the clouds") is par for the course in this type of "discourse".
Some atheists go a step further claiming that all people are atheists. Given that theists believe in their God and reject all other gods they are deemed atheists towards all other gods.
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No, the atheist proposition is that they aren't required to prove or disprove anything. They place the burden of proof on the theist who makes the initial and/or affirmative claim.
All atheism represents is a lack of belief in God or gods due to the rejection of all available evidence. Further claims of insufficient evidence (in spite of their presuppositions) or a claim of a "total lack of any evidence whatsoever" (this statement often peppered with references to "flying spaghetti monsters", "storybooks written by ancient goat herders", "fairytales" and "the man in the clouds") is par for the course in this type of "discourse".
Well, that is the way it works. If I say I have a cure cancer, do I have to prove the cure works? Or does another scientist have to prove that the cure doesn't work? ??? ??? Of course its the former and not the latter. Why would anyone have to prove a negative? It makes absolutely no sense to try and prove a negative. It accomplishes nothing.
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No, the atheist proposition is that they aren't required to prove or disprove anything. They place the burden of proof on the theist who makes the initial and/or affirmative claim.
All atheism represents is a lack of belief in God or gods due to the rejection of all available evidence. Further claims of insufficient evidence (in spite of their presuppositions) or a claim of a "total lack of any evidence whatsoever" (this statement often peppered with references to "flying spaghetti monsters", "storybooks written by ancient goat herders", "fairytales", "how did Noah get every species in the ark" and "the man in the clouds") is par for the course in this type of "discourse".
Some atheists go a step further claiming that all people are atheists. Given that theists believe in their God and reject all other gods they are deemed atheists towards all other gods.
well said
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Well, that is the way it works. If I say I have a cure cancer, do I have to prove the cure works? Or does another scientist have to prove that the cure doesn't work? ??? ??? Of course its the former and not the latter. Why would anyone have to prove a negative? It makes absolutely no sense to try and prove a negative. It accomplishes nothing.
Actually the notion of proving that something doesn't work or is false is an element of peer review within the scientific method, but proving an initial negative claim is typically not something that is done.
Lawrence Krauss repeatedly affirms "that's how we do science".
Scientists spend a great deal of time attempting to disprove the affirmative claims made by other scientists so that all bases are covered prior to deeming a new discovery, methodology or principle sound.
The breakdown for "science" it that is demands that the scientific method of proof be utilized for a state that transcends time and space....God transcends the naturalistic world therefore he can't be reproduced in lab or reproduced in a beaker or test tube.
Scientists are steadfast in attempting to review all angles of a naturalistic proposition, but "natural" is where it stops. Certainly cosmologists and physicists will entertain the notion of metaphysical conditions, but they conform that seemingly transcendent condition to their naturalistic perspective. In essence, what you assume to be true will sometimes be proven to be true if all you seek is what you want to be true.
Ask the scientific community to proactively follow the lead of a theist to test the scriptural claims of the transcendent God and laughter ensues; yet, the scientific community demands that the scientific method be followed and naturalistic evidence for a transcendent God be provided.
I don't personally know how to overcome that.
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MOS, do you think God wanted Russell Wilson to go to the Super Bowl more than Aaron Rodgers?
yes
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Man of Steel do you consider a Buddhist in deep meditation chanting the sutras, a yogi sitting in lotus posture in the Himalayas in deep meditation, a native american chief imbibed with peyote singing his sacred songs, a sufi whirling dervish, a Christian mystic in his hermitage sitting in utter silence.... to be experiencing Christ?
Or does Christ only come in to ones life when you say " Lord Jesus I accept you in to my heart, I am a sinner, save me"
It would be arrogant of me to say I know all of the ways that God manifests himself to other folks, but given the examples of the Buddhist, yogi and high native American chief I would assume they aren’t seeking the will of the risen God in Jesus Christ.
I wouldn’t think that the sufi is seeking Jesus Christ either, but don’t know enough about Sufism to make that claim.
The Christian mystic….I don’t really know what this is so I can’t talk to it.
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Actually the notion of proving that something doesn't work or is false is an element of peer review within the scientific method, but proving an initial negative claim is typically not something that is done.
Lawrence Krauss repeatedly affirms "that's how we do science".
Scientists spend a great deal of time attempting to disprove the affirmative claims made by other scientists so that all bases are covered prior to deeming a new discovery, methodology or principle sound.
The breakdown for "science" it that is demands that the scientific method of proof be utilized for a state that transcends time and space....God transcends the naturalistic world therefore he can't be reproduced in lab or reproduced in a beaker or test tube.
Scientists are steadfast in attempting to review all angles of a naturalistic proposition, but "natural" is where it stops. Certainly cosmologists and physicists will entertain the notion of metaphysical conditions, but they conform that seemingly transcendent condition to their naturalistic perspective. In essence, what you assume to be true will sometimes be proven to be true if all you seek is what you want to be true.
Ask the scientific community to proactively follow the lead of a theist to test the scriptural claims of the transcendent God and laughter ensues; yet, the scientific community demands that the scientific method be followed and naturalistic evidence for a transcendent God be provided.
I don't personally know how to overcome that.
So there is a good chance purple elephants orbit saturn on tricycles?
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So there is a good chance purple elephants orbit saturn on tricycles?
Well, like I said, I can lead you to Jesus Christ, but you can simply choose not to follow and demand naturalistic evidence via the scientific method for the naturalistic world for the transcendent God.
I've said it time and again....you must come to God on his terms as outlined in scripture. You're free to live your life however you choose, but when you approach God you then forgo your will and abide by his.
Can you lead me to the purple elephants orbiting saturn on tricycles? If you can I would absolutely love to follow because that sounds awesome!
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Well, like I said, I can lead you to Jesus Christ, but you can simply choose not to follow and demand naturalistic evidence via the scientific method for the naturalistic world.
I've said it time and again....you must come to God on his terms as outlined in scripture.
Can you lead me to the purple elephants orbiting saturn on tricycles? If you can I would absolutely love to follow because that sounds awesome!
Certainly... all you have to do is this... pray to them this prayer "Dear Elephant cyclists, I am a lowly sinner and I accept you into my heart as your cycling Saturn has paid my debt, Thank you Purple Elephant beings"
That's it..
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Yes, exactly. That is why evolution was debunked by science ages ago. Try to keep up, will you?
THE ABSURD NOTION OF BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION, ESPECIALLY FROM NON-LIVING AND MINDLESS CHEMICAL ELEMENTS, DEFIES THESE SCIENTIFIC LAWS, PRINCIPLES OR THEOREMS:
1st & 2nd LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS [CONSERVATION OF ENERGY; EVER INCREASING ENTROPY/BIOLOGICAL ENTROPY RESP.]
LAW OF BIOGENESIS [LIFE FROM NONLIVING IS IMPOSSIBLE I.E. ABIOGENESIS]
INFORMATION SCIENCE & THEOREMS
MENDELIAN GENETICS
BREEDING LIMITATIONS [VARIATION LIMITED TO WITHIN KIND, NO CROSS BREEDING BETWEEN KINDS]
HALDANE'S DILEMMA
CHEMICAL LAWS
And you hurry to be qualified as a foil hat with less than average IQ? You have to understand that you can't prove nothing by that, because they are all basically just claims. For example, Haldane's dilemma sucks because Haldane present very tight circumstances for evolution, and try mathematically prove that the evolution cannot work inside that tight frame. What would present those frames in nature? His theory has been debunked and it has it's faults.
LAW OF BIOGENESIS I.E. ABIOGENESIS? How it has been proved that it doesn't work? Who has been sitting at the front of the empty test tube last 4 billion years to prove, that there isn't life in it? There has to be better argument than "I don't believe it". So how it has been proved to be impossible?
BREEDING LIMITATIONS? Do you mean those which we know to be a facts today? How about 4 billion years ago, was there same limitations, or is those limitations work of the evolution? What do you really know about cross breeding let say 2.8 billion years ago? And how about that biblical breeding and it's limitations? I live in Finland, you live in some banana republic god knows where, but we have mutual ancestors? How the hell that happen? Well, we are all descendants of Adam and Eve. On the first hand they were fucking and making children's, then their children's fuck each other and their parents, making more relatives to fuck, and after few thousand years here we are. Where was those limitations then? As we know, inbreeding leads to the extinction, but not in the bible.
What you need to understand is that there has been life on this planet several billion years, and humans couple of million years. Humans ability to make exact science is few hundred years old, so how in the name of hell we would know it all? You have to understand the timeframe, billions of years vs. few hundred years. Here you have example which help you understand how freaking big just one billion is: 1 million second is 12 days. 1 billion seconds is 32 years. And you were thinking that million years was long time? There is no one who could point when life has begin on this planet, because of the passed billions of years. We know as a fact that there is life on this planet, even intelligent life forms has been seen time to time, so what is the problem?
NOBODY CAN POINT OUT WHERE AND WHEN LIFE CAME HERE. And that will prove that evolution is nonsense? If we skip that part, there will be evidence for billions of years of evolution, proved by fossils, skeletons etc. which by the way bible doesn't recognize at all. Where all that came? Why god has to create some little crab or lizard over and over again with minimal changes, during millions of years? He made man from shit and woman from the bone of the man? Is that some kind of highlight of his product development? First few billion years of training with all sort of crap what we study as fossils today, and then TA DAA: Adam and Eve? Creationism has lot of explaining to do before I believe that crap ;D
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YOu're not going to like this.....
I've never seen some many "intellectuals" befuddled and back peddle in my life lol
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A fun fact about religion.
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A fun fact about religion.
Nope, Mao Tze 'Tong' ;D make Hitler & Stalin numbers very small.
Fuck knows how many Chings he eliminated :P
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Why do so many that profess the faith of the Christ feel the need to defend their faith? The best defense is to not be offensive. To live the faith as opposed to talking it.
I am as guilty as any when it comes to living my faith but never will I state with any degree that what I hold true is anything but faith. Not religion. Faith. Hope. To trust in what we know even though it is largely unknown. There are good men and women that are Atheists. Why would I seek to belittle them their choice?
I am tired. So very tired.
Be well.
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Why do so many that profess the faith of the Christ feel the need to defend their faith? The best defense is to not be offensive. To live the faith as opposed to talking it.
I am as guilty as any when it comes to living my faith but never will I state with any degree that what I hold true is anything but faith. Not religion. Faith. Hope. To trust in what we know even though it is largely unknown. There are good men and women that are Atheists. Why would I seek to belittle them their choice?
I am tired. So very tired.
Be well.
You are a foolish man... ::)
Luke 18:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
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You are a foolish man... ::)
Luke 18:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
James (& Jesus), very much NON afro names ........... :D
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You are a foolish man... ::)
Luke 18:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
And you? A color centric dunce incapable of a relationship with any real woman. A child playing at being a man. A man so bent upon fabricating a history not his own and why?
Because your own life is a black peddling malaise of mistake upon layered mistake. I don't have to make you look like a fool as that is obviously your life's mission statement. What's next, Afrodomuss (Nostradamus was the slave name of a black seer, Afrodomus be his true name) ? The original dinosaurs were black? The original munchkins were black? Space be black? The reason black holes are black is because gravity is black? The seeds inside a watermelon are black. Coincidence? I think not because the original watermelons were black but green and red were more Christmacy so the original black scientists mofo'd de shiznit and sheeeeeet...The seeds be black. 'N shit.
Black light is better than white light for everything but actually seeing what the hell is going on around you? The new black was originally black? Say it loud, you're black and your loud?
Oh yes. The original Jesus was black. They just beat de blackness outta him. Jesus was his slave name. The true name of the illegitimate son of God is Tahm Pohnn. And vaginas were originally black, not pink. Turds have always been black. Wrap one in a Kai Greene signature towel and put it in a ghetto nativity scene as the baby Tahm Pohnn.
Get to black peddling now, you silly little man.
And finally, once you've had black you be a single mom.
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And you? A color centric dunce incapable of a relationship with any real woman. A child playing at being a man. A man so bent upon fabricating a history not his own and why?
Because your own life is a black peddling malaise of mistake upon layered mistake. I don't have to make you look like a fool as that is obviously your life's mission statement. What's next, Afrodomuss (Nostradamus was the slave name of a black seer, Afrodomus be his true name) ? The original dinosaurs were black? The original munchkins were black? Space be black? The reason black holes are black is because gravity is black? The seeds inside a watermelon are black. Coincidence? I think not because the original watermelons were black but green and red were more Christmacy so the original black scientists mofo'd de shiznit and sheeeeeet...The seeds be black. 'N shit.
Black light is better than white light for everything but actually seeing what the hell is going on around you? The new black was originally black? Say it loud, you're black and your loud?
Oh yes. The original Jesus was black. They just beat de blackness outta him. Jesus was his slave name. The true name of the illegitimate son of God is Tahm Pohnn. And vaginas were originally black, not pink. Turds have always been black. Wrap one in a Kai Greene signature towel and put it in a ghetto nativity scene as the baby Tahm Pohnn.
Get to black peddling now, you silly little man.
And finally, once you've had black you be a single mom.
Meltdown.
You are a foolish old man that was just owned by the word of Christ. Perhaps you should think twice before you open your mouth. I didn't bother to read your drivel, it's not worth my time and you've proven yourself to be a fool.
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And you? A color centric dunce incapable of a relationship with any real woman. A child playing at being a man. A man so bent upon fabricating a history not his own and why?
Because your own life is a black peddling malaise of mistake upon layered mistake. I don't have to make you look like a fool as that is obviously your life's mission statement. What's next, Afrodomuss (Nostradamus was the slave name of a black seer, Afrodomus be his true name) ? The original dinosaurs were black? The original munchkins were black? Space be black? The reason black holes are black is because gravity is black? The seeds inside a watermelon are black. Coincidence? I think not because the original watermelons were black but green and red were more Christmacy so the original black scientists mofo'd de shiznit and sheeeeeet...The seeds be black. 'N shit.
Black light is better than white light for everything but actually seeing what the hell is going on around you? The new black was originally black? Say it loud, you're black and your loud?
Oh yes. The original Jesus was black. They just beat de blackness outta him. Jesus was his slave name. The true name of the illegitimate son of God is Tahm Pohnn. And vaginas were originally black, not pink. Turds have always been black. Wrap one in a Kai Greene signature towel and put it in a ghetto nativity scene as the baby Tahm Pohnn.
Get to black peddling now, you silly little man.
And finally, once you've had black you be a single mom.
Keep putting your feet in your mouth grandpa. Each time you do, you sink deeper into the swamp of foolishness.
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Meltdown.
You are a foolish old man that was just owned by the word of Christ. Perhaps you should think twice before you open your mouth. I didn't bother to read your drivel, it's not worth my time and you've proven yourself to be a fool.
Too many syllables? Nary a La, Ta or Sha in there? Deeba dobba deeba dobba? Mofo mofo mofo? "Meltdown". How quaint. How utterly pedestrian. How patently stooooopid.
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Uninformed prideful idiot...A blind man that believes he can see, "The Scott"... ::)
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Meltdown.
You are a foolish old man that was just owned by the word of Christ. Perhaps you should think twice before you open your mouth. I didn't bother to read your drivel, it's not worth my time and you've proven yourself to be a fool.
I recommend you read it, that was some funny sheeeeeeiiiit....
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I rest my case...
Tuck your tail between your twat and hold your head in shame you petulant, ignorant geezer. Get used to this, because we (the real Jews) are here to stay, whether you accept it or not. It's true and we're back. You can start viewing the first video of the Israeli exposing that we are the true Hebrews and ending with the southerner telling the same thing. The truth burns you like hell fire.
Moron. ::) Get off the internet.
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I rest my case...
Tuck your tail between your twat and hold your head in shame you petulant, ignorant geezer. Get used to this, because we (the real Jews) are here to stay, whether you accept it or not. It's true and we're back. You can start viewing the first video of the Israeli exposing that we are the true Hebrews and ending with the southerner telling the same thing. The truth burns you like hell fire.
Moron. ::) Get off the internet.
You're seriously offering up these babbling goofballs as testimony?
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Calm down Heybro Wiggs, none of us will watch those vids, why would we?
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Certainly... all you have to do is this... pray to them this prayer "Dear Elephant cyclists, I am a lowly sinner and I accept you into my heart as your cycling Saturn has paid my debt, Thank you Purple Elephant beings"
That's it..
I'm interested....is there more you can tell me? What gave you the desire to first pray?
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Calm down Heybro Wiggs, none of us will watch those vids, why would we?
Why wouldn't you? Are you afraid of the truth? I'm using your people, and the so called jews, Israelis and middle eastern Rabbi that know we are the real Hebrews. Didn't use one Hebrew. They know. People know. We know. People are getting very nervous about this. This is very bad news for the people that took our identity (aka Khazars,aka "Jewish people") especially considering that the people that took our identity are the Edomites of the Bible, sons and daughters of Esau. I'm not mad though. This was supposed to happen. I can only be mad at my ancestors for not following the laws, statutes and commandments and getting us cursed. The serpent people (so called Jewish people, it's what they called themselves before they stole our identity.) did what they were supposed to. They'll have many questions to answer...They know what the Bible says how God feels about them. Which is why they hate the New Testament and the Apocrypha. It's also part of the reason they took on another identity.
Romans 9:13 KJV
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Revelation 2:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
We are from the seed of Jacob, they are from the seed of Esau.
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Why wouldn't you? Are you afraid of the truth? I'm using your people, and the so called jews, Israelis and middle eastern Rabbi that know we are the real Hebrews. Didn't use one Hebrew. They know. People know. We know. People are getting very nervous about this. This is very bad news for the people that took our identity (aka Khazars,aka "Jewish people") especially considering that the people that took our identity are the Edomites of the Bible, sons and daughters of Esau. I'm not mad though. This was supposed to happen. I can only be mad at my ancestors for not following the laws, statutes and commandments and getting us cursed. The serpent people (so called Jewish people, it's what they called themselves before they stole our identity.) did what they were supposed to. They'll have many questions to answer...They know what the Bible says how God feels about them. Which is why they hate the New Testament and the Apocrypha. It's also part of the reason they took on another identity.
Romans 9:13 KJV
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Revelation 2:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
We are from the seed of Jacob, they are from the seed of Esau.
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TLDR
But, not being religious and believing in God are two things. I hate religion but I'm not arrogant enough to state that I know everything. There might be a consciousness somewhere that made the world as it is... It might be the fruit of pure chance. I don't know.
The only thing that matters is how can I live my limited time on life in a way that will be as virtuous and pleasant as possible.
The Stoics were onto something imo....
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Why do so many that profess the faith of the Christ feel the need to defend their faith? The best defense is to not be offensive. To live the faith as opposed to talking it.
I am as guilty as any when it comes to living my faith but never will I state with any degree that what I hold true is anything but faith. Not religion. Faith. Hope. To trust in what we know even though it is largely unknown. There are good men and women that are Atheists. Why would I seek to belittle them their choice?
I am tired. So very tired.
Be well.
Foolish old man...
Faith without works is dead thus saith Christ.
James 2:14-26King James Version (KJV)
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Turn off your internet, pick up a Bible and follow along learn something. Because clearly in all your years, you have learned very little about what's actually in it despite knowing how to read. You are a spiritually blind old fool.
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Foolish old man...
Faith without works is dead thus saith Christ.
James 2:14-26King James Version (KJV)
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Turn off your internet, pick up a Bible and follow along learn something. Because clearly in all your years, you have learned very little about what's actually in it despite knowing how to read. You are a spiritually blind old fool.
I've been stalking getbig since squadfather and mower. I joined in 2010. I've had all sorts of mind deceases in my life, but I feel pretty balanced now days. I still have my short comings, a lot sometimes, but I like to think I'm getting better.
If anyone asks or demands me to tell I have no problem to say I believe in christ and all the illuminati secret society new world order jibba jabba. It's never a topic I would bring out of the blue to strangers, I'd rather talk shit.
But you make it sound like you are the holy of the holiest. It's cool that you feel your eyes are opened to the world around you, and it's cool that you think you have an insight to the world you can't see, but you have one of the nastiest getbig histories. Even if you haven't done half of the shit you've written here, your mind has been consumed By it, at least once, and it will always be a part of you.
My relationship in religion or with god is that of my own, I would be the biggest hypocrite to start telling other people how and what. LOL but you... :D, give us a break, wiggs. You need to humble up really big. You sound like those scitchophrenics who know every word in the bible, but have this angry face all the time, preaching about fear in the name of god.
You aren't helping any christian movement, and you don't even sound like a man who has christ in his life, you sound like a terrified fear mongorer at best. You still entertain yourself with everything that is not of christ, yet you preach at times. You are all lies.
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I've been stalking getbig since squadfather and mower. I joined in 2010. I've had all sorts of mind deceases in my life, but I feel pretty balanced now days. I still have my short comings, a lot sometimes, but I like to think I'm getting better.
If anyone asks or demands me to tell I have no problem to say I believe in christ and all the illuminati secret society new world order jibba jabba. It's never a topic I would bring out of the blue to strangers, I'd rather talk shit.
But you make it sound like you are the holy of the holiest. It's cool that you feel your eyes are opened to the world around you, and it's cool that you think you have an insight to the world you can't see, but you have one of the nastiest getbig histories. Even if you haven't done half of the shit you've written here, your mind has been consumed By it, at least once, and it will always be a part of you.
My relationship in religion or with god is that of my own, I would be the biggest hypocrite to start telling other people how and what. LOL but you... :D, give us a break, wiggs. You need to humble up really big. You sound like those scitchophrenics who know every word in the bible, but have this angry face all the time, preaching about fear in the name of god.
You aren't helping any christian movement, and you don't even sound like a man who has christ in his life, you sound like a terrified fear mongorer at best.
Shut up kid. I don't care how you perceive me or what your opinion is.
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I've been stalking getbig since squadfather and mower. I joined in 2010. I've had all sorts of mind deceases in my life, but I feel pretty balanced now days. I still have my short comings, a lot sometimes, but I like to think I'm getting better.
If anyone asks or demands me to tell I have no problem to say I believe in christ and all the illuminati secret society new world order jibba jabba. It's never a topic I would bring out of the blue to strangers, I'd rather talk shit.
But you make it sound like you are the holy of the holiest. It's cool that you feel your eyes are opened to the world around you, and it's cool that you think you have an insight to the world you can't see, but you have one of the nastiest getbig histories. Even if you haven't done half of the shit you've written here, your mind has been consumed By it, at least once, and it will always be a part of you.
My relationship in religion or with god is that of my own, I would be the biggest hypocrite to start telling other people how and what. LOL but you... :D, give us a break, wiggs. You need to humble up really big. You sound like those scitchophrenics who know every word in the bible, but have this angry face all the time, preaching about fear in the name of god.
You aren't helping any christian movement, and you don't even sound like a man who has christ in his life, you sound like a terrified fear mongorer at best.
Aren't you like 14 years old? Don't you have some satanic bible to worship or emo friends to hang out with? First, you're a satanist, then you were a pagan or something, then there was a time where you just sounded emo, now you love God. How can anyone take you seriously? ::) ::)
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Aren't you like 14 years old? Don't you have some satanic bible to worship or emo friends to hang out with? First, you're a satanist, then you were a pagan or something, then there was a time where you just sounded emo, now you love God. How can anyone take you seriously? ::) ::)
I don't know do I love god, never said that. I said I believe in it.
But yeah, not every people has the perfect white trash life. Finishing college in time, having a great white trash job, having the perfect humorless wife, and having a year round tan from the sun because of traveling 4 times a year thx to your epic salary.
Some people have boring lives and suffer mind storms most of their lives, always being the one behind the glass window watching 'normal people' do perfectly, never grasping how they do it. But some come through.
So yeah, most people might not take me seriously, but I have no need to prove my self to nobody. I have my own life, don't give a fuck about others :D
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I don't know do I love god, never said that. I said I believe in it.
But yeah, not every people has the perfect white trash life. Finishing college in time, having a great white trash job, having the perfect humorless wife, and having a year round tan from the sun because of traveling 4 times a year thx to your epic salary.
Some people have boring lives and suffer mind storms most of their lives, always being the one behind the glass window watching 'normal people' do perfectly. But some can come through from them.
So yeah, most people might not take me seriously, but I have no need to prove my self to nobody. I have my own life, don't give a fuck abot others :D
I may or may not have any of that. I do not know what that has to do with anything! But okay!!!
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I may or may not have any of that. I do not know what that has to do with anything! But okay!!!
it was just an example. you're smarter than that :P
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it was just an example. you're smarter than that :P
The statement in red made you sound like a 15 year old emo kid who is mad at the world and trying not to conform because youre different and unique. ::) :-\ :-\
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The statement in red made you sound like a 15 year old emo kid who is mad at the world and trying not to conform because youre different and unique. ::) :-\ :-\
well i'm not unique nor differend from anyone, I'm 70% water like everyone else, I'm just a dot in the ocean who has overcome lots of mind fuckery.
But I was talking to wiggs, I bet that you didn't read half of the post that I meant for wiggs to read and just jumped to the concluson that I shouldn't talk because noone takes me seriously because of my dozens of melt downs over the years, which is why I gave the little example jadi jadi jada.
wiggs talks like he was one of the three wise men who witnessed the birth of jesus (in the story), I don't.
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well i'm not unique nor differend from anyone, I'm 70% water like everyone else, I'm just a dot in the ocean who has overcome lots of mind fuckery.
But I was talking to wiggs, I bet that you didn't read half of the post that I meant for wiggs to read and just jumped to the concluson that I shouldn't talk because noone takes me seriously because of my dozens of melt downs over the years, which is why I gave the little example jadi jadi jada.
wiggs talks like he was one of the three wise men who witnessed the birth of jesus (in the story), I don't.
Yes, sure you have overcome lots of mind fuckery. You have seen through it all, and the rest of us are just mindless drones. ::) ::) Yes, I am sure you have tapped into something else that we can all long to have. Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you sleep better at night, champ.
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I have some questions for you MOS. Not trolling because I really like you I just would like to know if you know the answers to these questions.
1. Why do you as a Christian go to church on Sunday and not the actual Sabbath (One of God's Commandments, remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy)?
2. Why do Christians celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays when the Bible says not to?
3. Why do you Christians not follow the dietary law when Christ said, I came not to change the law but to fulfill it. i.e. pork, shellfish etc?
4. Where in the Bible is the rapture, please show me?
5. If sin is defined as transgression of the laws, why do Christians say they are under grace and they believe that gives them the ok to sin? Meaning if you're under grace it's ok to do anything you want including, rape, murder, steal, and anything else.
I'll wait...
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I have some questions for you MOS. Not trolling because I really like you I just would like to know if you know the answers to these questions.
1. Why do you as a Christian go to church on Sunday and not the actual Sabbath (One of God's Commandments, remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy)?
2. Why do Christians celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays when the Bible says not to?
3. Why do you Christians not follow the dietary law when Christ said, I came not to change the law but to fulfill it. i.e. pork, shellfish etc?
4. Where in the Bible is the rapture, please show me?
5. If sin is defined as transgression of the laws, why do Christians say they are under grace and they believe that gives them the ok to sin? Meaning if you're under grace it's ok to do anything you want including, rape, murder, steal, and anything else.
I'll wait...
Wiggs, you're smart, so you know that Christians cherry pick parts of the bible they want to follow, and ignore other parts. As you said, they ignore the dietary restrictions of the bible, yet will focus on other parts of the bible. It's whatever suits their needs and wants at the time.
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Haha, that's divine!
Srsly tho, I can help her with that.
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Wiggs, you're smart, so you know that Christians cherry pick parts of the bible they want to follow, and ignore other parts. As you said, they ignore the dietary restrictions of the bible, yet will focus on other parts of the bible. It's whatever suits their needs and wants at the time.
I'm not trying to troll MOS. He's a man that's trying to do the right but he like many have been deceived with false prophets and false doctrine. When he sees the many lies he's been taught and some of his beliefs are not in the Bible, he'll perhaps see things differently.
Read the Bible, study to show yourself approved. Christ said, take heed that no man deceive you for many will come in my name. This is what has happened. People have been fooled. The Bible is real and correct it's the people that have taught it have had ulterior motives.
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I have some questions for you MOS. Not trolling because I really like you I just would like to know if you know the answers to these questions.
1. Why do you as a Christian go to church on Sunday and not the actual Sabbath (One of God's Commandments, remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy)?
2. Why do Christians celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays when the Bible says not to?
3. Why do you Christians not follow the dietary law when Christ said, I came not to change the law but to fulfill it. i.e. pork, shellfish etc?
4. Where in the Bible is the rapture, please show me?
5. If sin is defined as transgression of the laws, why do Christians say they are under grace and they believe that gives them the ok to sin? Meaning if you're under grace it's ok to do anything you want including, rape, murder, steal, and anything else.
I'll wait...
1. Likewise, why aren't you smiting those who break the Sabbath as God commands?
(Exodus 31:14; 35:2; Numbers 15:32-36)
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The Bible is real and correct
1 billion times > ;D
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1. Likewise, why aren't you smiting those who break the Sabbath as God commands?
(Exodus 31:14; 35:2; Numbers 15:32-36)
At the time, it was the law of the land. The Bible says in Romans 13 (subject unto higher powers) to follow the laws of the land, therefore, I won't be smiting anyone.
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Brother Wiggs!! Happy to give my input since you’ve asked me for it. :)
I have some questions for you MOS. Not trolling because I really like you I just would like to know if you know the answers to these questions.
1. Why do you as a Christian go to church on Sunday and not the actual Sabbath (One of God's Commandments, remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy)?
Yes, the Sabbath is actually Saturday (the last day of the week where God rested). Christ himself kept the Sabbath. If it is good enough for Christ why isn’t it good enough for the church?
It was the church of Rome that changed the weekly day of worship and fellowship from Saturday to Sunday and Reformed churches maintained this change. Now, I can’t speak to the full history of the change (I’m sure it’s a google away), but I do know a change was made and I’ve seen no scripture that indicates that Sunday is the new Sabbath. All I know is that Christ said that he is the Lord of the Sabbath and that we are to serve him. The Sabbath is not an example of man-made, religious custom up for interpretation….it was a divine law to be kept for the Jews. Christians worship on Sundays because Christ rose from the grave on Sunday.....hence the term "Resurrection Sunday". Pagans may have worshipped a sun god and therefore "Sunday" was the pagan day of worship, but the Christian church didn't align with the pagans but again helped subvert pagan worship with the weekly celebration of Christ's Sunday resurrection.
My church actually holds formal sevices on Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturday and Sundays…..many churches are doing the same and I believe things are moving in the right direction. Reformed churches do not hold to the Sabbath as this OT commandment was not renewed in NT scripture.
Now, I would also add that as followers of Christ we’re basically commanded to keep every day holy. As Christ said, we should "hunger and thirst for righteousness". A day of fellowship and worship is a time to come together and worship our Lord and Savior and fellowship with one another as a body of believers in Christ. This commands naturally extends to the entirety of the week in that we are to extend fellowship with one another, worship the Lord our God, be that “salt and light” for the world and keep faithful and righteousness regardless of the day or hour.
2. Why do Christians celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays when the Bible says not to?
To be very clear, Christmas isn’t a pagan holiday.
A day is not made “wholly unholy” because ungoldly pagans placed one of their festivals within it. As it states in Psalms 118, each day is a day “that that Lord has made” and each day that we give him the glory and praise affirms that.
The Roman Catholic church chose December 25th to celebrate the birth of Christ in an attempt to subvert the pagan celebrations that annually occurred at or around that same time; in essense, replacing pagan traditions with a celebration of Christ. In this instance their motivations were accurate in my opinion.
No one knows the exact birthdate of Christ. Some say it was in the spring and others the fall. That said, the church made a strong attempt to establish the annual celebration of Christ's birth in a way that both glorifies our Lord and Savior and symbolically suppresses the evil of men.
The verses in Jeremiah don't refer to Christmas trees....that's a forced fit many employ for the sake of making an argument. The verses refer to those people that fashioned wooden idols and decorated them for purposes of pagan worship. And where does one get wood? From trees in a forest. Christians do not worship Christmas trees.
Christians celebrate Christmas annually to give specific praise and glory to God because of the coming of the incarnate Son of God in Jesus Christ.
3. Why do you Christians not follow the dietary law when Christ said, I came not to change the law but to fulfill it. i.e. pork, shellfish etc?
Here we have the notion of clean and unclean foods in relation to the new covenant.
The early Israelites were called by God to be holy or “set apart” from the pagan nations around them and they adhered to law and practices that made that distinction more evident. Folks often say, “why is it a sin to eat lobster?” It’s not that the lobster is bad or unclean in and of itself, but the Israelites were set apart and did not blur the lines in all aspects of their lives. They ate fish because fish were animals meant only for water and did not have mixed physical characteristics like shellfish/lobsters do. Lobsters can survive in and out of water and have a mix of features designed for land and water so they were temporarily deemed “unclean” for purposes of maintaining the idea of distinction while the nation of Israel developed. Man then began to include other cultural concepts that indicated distinctiveness such as cultural practices for hair and head coverings, but as Paul mentions in these passages of scripture we are to “judge for ourselves” the appropriateness of these customs.
It was Christ that told the Pharisees:
Mark 7:15
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
Of course there are some that will say the passage focuses on eating food with unwashed hands versus eating food with the customary washed hands. Further Christ was condemning Pharisetical traditions that they tended to place above God’s law. In my opinion, he addressed both the concept of placing “customs and traditions” ahead of his law (as Paul noted in his passage about headship) while at the same time indicating that eating an animal of mixed charecteristics does not defile a person or then break a law….it’s sin that defiles man. Ultimately Christ came to fulfill the law and become the curse for the law so that man can be made righteous.
Still we can further consider Peter's vision in Acts in which God deemed animals clean for eating:
Acts 10:9-16
9 On the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray. 10 But he became hungry and was desiring to eat; but while they were making preparations, he fell into a trance; 11 and he *saw the sky opened up, and an object like a great sheet coming down, lowered by four corners to the ground, 12 and there were in it all kinds of four-footed animals and crawling creatures of the earth and birds of the air. 13 A voice came to him, “Get up, Peter, kill and eat!” 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Lord, for I have never eaten anything [g]unholy and unclean.” 15 Again a voice came to him a second time, “What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.” 16 This happened three times, and immediately the object was taken up into the sky.
4. Where in the Bible is the rapture, please show me?
The word “rapture” is not mentioned in scripture much like the word “trinity” is not mentioned. Yet the demonstration of both is present in scripture. Now, I am not a pre-tribulation rapture adherent. I belief all followers of Christ will be subject to the great tribulation if they are alive at that time. We will be joined with our Lord and "caught up with him in the clouds" upon his return after that period of tribulation is past. There will be no sudden "vanishing of believers" or pre-tribulation rapture. I've read the "Left Behind" series of books, but only because I sometimes enjoy fiction.
5. If sin is defined as transgression of the laws, why do Christians say they are under grace and they believe that gives them the ok to sin? Meaning if you're under grace it's ok to do anything you want including, rape, murder, steal, and anything else.
Sin is as an offense against God. God is just, the law is God and the law is just. We break his law defiantly and offend him (or sin).
Believers in Christ are saved by grace through faith in Christ and thereby deemed righteous and justified before the throne of God. We are saved from God’s wrath and are sanctified by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and subject to his will for our lives. We forgo of our individual will and align ourselves with his will. That process of sanctification does not remove our sinful tendencies, but it’s also not a license to sin. As believers in Christ we adopt a repentant heart and completely turn away from our sin as best we are able. It’s the Holy Spirit that guides our future walk with our Savior in Christ and helps us to live as the salt and light for the world. Though we may stumble we are assured that we cannot be snatched from his hand. A relationship with Christ is about a lifelong journey in which we do all we can to emulate him though we will not escape the trappings of sin until he returns to claim his church. There is only one that ever existed in the person of Jesus Christ who was without sin.
I do have a couple of quick questions of my own that I’m curious about:
Do you give approximately 25-35% of your income (in whatever form that may take) back to the God as indicated in OT scripture. The Israelites tithed way beyond the often referenced 10% of their earnings (whatever form that took).
How do you interpret the following scripture:
1 Peter 3:8-17
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Hopefully I helped answer your questions because I’ve tried to answer honestly.
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Brother Wiggs!! Happy to give my input since you’ve asked me for it. :)
Yes, the Sabbath is actually Saturday (the last day of the week where God rested). Christ himself kept the Sabbath. If it is good enough for Christ why isn’t it good enough for the church?
It was the church of Rome the changed the weekly day of worship and fellowship from Saturday to Sunday yet even Reformed churches maintained this change. Now, I can’t speak to the full history of the change (I’m sure it’s a google away), but I do know a change was made and I’ve seen no scripture that indicates that Sunday is the new Sabbath. I believe it to be an error and some make arguments to justify it, but the Sabbath is not an example of man-made, religious custom up for interpretation….it’s a divine law to be kept.
My church actually holds formal sevices on Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturday and Sundays…..many churches are doing the same and I believe things are moving in the right direction. I have no problem keeping the Sabbath, but today’s churches have been raised by the Catholic church’s initial dictum sourced from a “Sola Roma” notion straight from the teaching magisterium of Catholicism. Despite Reformed churches claiming the notion of “sola scriptura” the Sabbath was not renewed.
For me I enjoy worship and fellowship on Saturdays and have encouraged my family to make that our day….for me it just “felt right”….there’s no coincidence there. Although, individually and culturally we’re guilty of not honoring the Sabbath as we should. I believe a change should be made….even if only at an individual level for starters.
Now, I would also add that as followers of Christ we’re basically commanded to keep every day holy. As Christ said, we shoud "hunger and thirst for righteousness". A day of fellowship and worship is a time to come together and worship our Lord and Savior and fellowship with one another as a body of believers in Christ. This commands naturally extends to the entirety of the week in that we are to extend fellowship with one another, worship the Lord our God, be that “salt and light” for the world and keep faithful and righteousness regardless of the day or hour.
To be very clear, Christmas isn’t a pagan holiday.
A day is not made “wholly unholy” because ungoldly pagans placed one of their festivals within it. As it states in Psalms 118, each day is a day “that that Lord has made” and each day that we give him the glory and praise affirms that.
The Roman Catholic church chose December 25th to celebrate the birth of Christ in an attempt to subvert the pagan celebrations that annually occurred at or around that same time; in essense, replacing pagan traditions with a celebration of Christ. In this instance their motivations were accurate in my opinion.
No one knows the exact birthdate of Christ. Some say it was in the spring and others the fall. That said, the church made a strong attempt to establish the annual celebration of Christ's birth in a way that both glorifies our Lord and Savior and symbolically suppresses the evil of men.
The verses in Jeremiah don't refer to Christmas trees....that's a forced fit many employ for the sake of making an argument. The verses refer to those people that fashioned wooden idols and decorated them for purposes of pagan worship. And where does one get wood? From trees in a forest. Christians do not worship Christmas trees.
Christians celebrate Christmas annually to give specific praise and glory to God because of the coming of the incarnate Son of God in Jesus Christ.
Here we have the notion of clean and unclean foods in relation to the new covenant.
The early Israelites were called by God to be holy or “set apart” from the pagan nations around them and they adhered to law and practices that made that distinction more evident. Folks often say, “why is it a sin to eat lobster?” It’s not that the lobster is bad or unclean in and of itself, but the Israelites were set apart and did not blur the lines in all aspects of their lives. They ate fish because fish were animals meant only for water and did not have mixed physical characteristics like shellfish/lobsters do. Lobsters can survive in and out of water and have a mix of features designed for land and water so they were temporarily deemed “unclean” for purposes of maintaining the idea of distinction while the nation of Israel developed. Man then began to include other cultural concepts that indicated distinctiveness such as cultural practices for hair and head coverings, but as Paul mentions in these passages of scripture we are to “judge for ourselves” the appropriateness of these customs.
It was Christ that told the Pharisees:
Mark 7:15
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
Of course there are some that will say the passage focuses on eating food with unwashed hands versus eating food with the customary washed hands. Further that Christ was condemning Pharisetical traditions that they tended to place above God’s law. In my opinion he addressed both the concept of “customs and traditions” as Paul did in his passage about headship while at the same time indicating that eating an animal of mixed charecteristics does not defile a person….it’s sin that defiles man. Hence Christ came to fulfill the law and become the curse for the law so that man can be made righteous.
The word “rapture” is not mentioned in scripture much like the word “trinity” is not mentioned. Yet the demonstration of both is present in scripture. Now, I am not a pre-tribulation rapture adherent. I belief all followers of Christ will be subject to the great tribulation if they are alive at that time. We will be joined with our Lord and "caught up with him in the clouds" upon his return after that period of tribulation is past. There will be no sudden "vanishing of believers" or pre-tribulation rapture. I've read the "Left Behind" series of books, but only because I sometimes enjoy fiction.
Sin is as an offense against God. God is just, the law is God and the law is just. We break his law defiantly and offend him (or sin).
Believers in Christ are saved by grace through faith in Christ and thereby deemed righteous and justified before the throne of God. We are saved from God’s wrath and are sanctified by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and subject to his will for our lives. We forgo of our individual will and align ourselves with his will. That process of sanctification does not remove our sinful tendencies, but it’s also not a license to sin. As believers in Christ we adopt a repentant heart and completely turn away from our sin as best we are able. It’s the Holy Spirit that guides our future walk with our Savior in Christ and helps us to live as the salt and light for the world. Though we may stumble we are assured that we cannot be snatched from his hand. A relationship with Christ is about a lifelong journey in which we do all we can to emulate him though we will not escape the trappings of sin until he returns to claim his church. There is only one that ever existed in the person of Jesus Christ who was without sin.
I do have a couple of quick questions of my own that I’m curious about:
Do you give approximately 25-35% of your income (in whatever form that may take) back to the God as indicated in OT scripture. The Israelites tithed way beyond the often referenced 10% of their earnings (whatever form that took).
How do you interpret the following scripture:
1 Peter 3:8-17
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Hopefully I helped answer your questions because I’ve tried to answer honestly.
Dang man. I'll have to get back with you later, lol. You wrote a book but trust that unless this thread is deleted, I'll read and respond. Thanks for the reply.
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Dang man. I'll have to get back with you later, lol. You wrote a book but trust that unless this thread is deleted, I'll read and respond. Thanks for the reply.
LOL sorry...have some previously written replies at my fingertips I pieced together.
Take a look when you get a chance....all good. ;)
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Wiggs, you're smart, so you know that Christians cherry pick parts of the bible they want to follow, and ignore other parts. As you said, they ignore the dietary restrictions of the bible, yet will focus on other parts of the bible. It's whatever suits their needs and wants at the time.
I take my faith seriously and defend it honestly. Some cherry pick but many are simply ignorant.
I do my best to learn and apply and in doing so my conclusions will change given new and /or better info or perspectives.
There's a secular method often referenced that does the same. ;)
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Yes, sure you have overcome lots of mind fuckery. You have seen through it all, and the rest of us are just mindless drones. ::) ::) Yes, I am sure you have tapped into something else that we can all long to have. Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you sleep better at night, champ.
I don't give two thongs what you think I may or may not have tapped in or whatever you're talking about
I definitely didn't say I have been through it all, I said I've been through a lot of mind fuckery and I'm not the same I was few years ago when I was insane, now I'm barely nuts, but that doesn't make you any less. Well maybe you're not nuts, but absolutely dumber than I am.
You make it sound like you 'dislike' me by principle no matter what I do or say, but I just can't generate two fucks to give. Like I need your acceptance ::)
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Why wouldn't you? Are you afraid of the truth? I'm using your people, and the so called jews, Israelis and middle eastern Rabbi that know we are the real Hebrews. Didn't use one Hebrew. They know. People know. We know. People are getting very nervous about this. This is very bad news for the people that took our identity (aka Khazars,aka "Jewish people") especially considering that the people that took our identity are the Edomites of the Bible, sons and daughters of Esau. I'm not mad though. This was supposed to happen. I can only be mad at my ancestors for not following the laws, statutes and commandments and getting us cursed. The serpent people (so called Jewish people, it's what they called themselves before they stole our identity.) did what they were supposed to. They'll have many questions to answer...They know what the Bible says how God feels about them. Which is why they hate the New Testament and the Apocrypha. It's also part of the reason they took on another identity.
Romans 9:13 KJV
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Revelation 2:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
We are from the seed of Jacob, they are from the seed of Esau.
OK Hebrew Wiggs, it's obvious to me that you feel the strong desire to share messages like these, which is fine to me (freedom of speech of peace), but I still wonder "why?!", why can't you just live your life on your own terms, without telling others how and what to think? In fact, why would you even care?
I refuse to think in terms of "truth" or "your people", that's just your reference point.
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I take my faith seriously and defend it honestly. Some cherry pick but many are simply ignorant.
I do my best to learn and apply and in doing so my conclusions will change given new and /or better info or perspectives.
There's a secular method often referenced that does the same. ;)
If you take your faith seriously, then why do you not follow EVERYTHING in the bible? It would seem half-assed to only follow certain things and ignore others.
Yes, the secular method is called science. We learn and grow and change over time. That is the premise of science. But you're deliberately going against God's word by doing the opposite of what is prescribed in the bible. And that is not what God wants.
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I don't give two thongs what you think I may or may not have tapped in or whatever you're talking about
I definitely didn't say I have been through it all, I said I've been through a lot of mind fuckery and I'm not the same I was few years ago when I was insane, now I'm barely nuts, but that doesn't make you any less. Well maybe you're not nuts, but absolutely dumber than I am.
You make it sound like you 'dislike' me by principle no matter what I do or say, but I just can't generate two fucks to give. Like I need your acceptance ::)
Okay, calm down, little emo boy. Go tell your parents how much you hate them, go buy beer and drink it with your friends, so you can rebel against society. Then you and your little emo friends can talk about how enlightened you all are, while the rest of us are mindless robots. :D :D
(http://www.imgion.com/images/01/Cheer-Up-Emo-Kid-.jpg)
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Brother Wiggs!! Happy to give my input since you’ve asked me for it. :)
Yes, the Sabbath is actually Saturday (the last day of the week where God rested). Christ himself kept the Sabbath. If it is good enough for Christ why isn’t it good enough for the church?
It was the church of Rome that changed the weekly day of worship and fellowship from Saturday to Sunday yet even Reformed churches maintained this change. Now, I can’t speak to the full history of the change (I’m sure it’s a google away), but I do know a change was made and I’ve seen no scripture that indicates that Sunday is the new Sabbath. I believe it to be an error and some make arguments to justify it, but the Sabbath is not an example of man-made, religious custom up for interpretation….it’s a divine law to be kept.
My church actually holds formal sevices on Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturday and Sundays…..many churches are doing the same and I believe things are moving in the right direction. I have no problem keeping the Sabbath, but today’s churches have been raised by the Catholic church’s initial dictum sourced from a “Sola Roma” notion straight from the teaching magisterium. Despite Reformed churches claiming the notion of “sola scriptura” the Sabbath was not renewed.
For me I enjoy worship and fellowship on Saturdays and have encouraged my family to make that our day….for me it just “felt right”….there’s no coincidence there. Although, individually and culturally we’re guilty of not honoring the Sabbath as we should. I believe a change should be made….even if only at an individual level for starters.
Now, I would also add that as followers of Christ we’re basically commanded to keep every day holy. As Christ said, we should "hunger and thirst for righteousness". A day of fellowship and worship is a time to come together and worship our Lord and Savior and fellowship with one another as a body of believers in Christ. This commands naturally extends to the entirety of the week in that we are to extend fellowship with one another, worship the Lord our God, be that “salt and light” for the world and keep faithful and righteousness regardless of the day or hour.
To be very clear, Christmas isn’t a pagan holiday.
A day is not made “wholly unholy” because ungoldly pagans placed one of their festivals within it. As it states in Psalms 118, each day is a day “that that Lord has made” and each day that we give him the glory and praise affirms that.
The Roman Catholic church chose December 25th to celebrate the birth of Christ in an attempt to subvert the pagan celebrations that annually occurred at or around that same time; in essense, replacing pagan traditions with a celebration of Christ. In this instance their motivations were accurate in my opinion.
No one knows the exact birthdate of Christ. Some say it was in the spring and others the fall. That said, the church made a strong attempt to establish the annual celebration of Christ's birth in a way that both glorifies our Lord and Savior and symbolically suppresses the evil of men.
The verses in Jeremiah don't refer to Christmas trees....that's a forced fit many employ for the sake of making an argument. The verses refer to those people that fashioned wooden idols and decorated them for purposes of pagan worship. And where does one get wood? From trees in a forest. Christians do not worship Christmas trees.
Christians celebrate Christmas annually to give specific praise and glory to God because of the coming of the incarnate Son of God in Jesus Christ.
Here we have the notion of clean and unclean foods in relation to the new covenant.
The early Israelites were called by God to be holy or “set apart” from the pagan nations around them and they adhered to law and practices that made that distinction more evident. Folks often say, “why is it a sin to eat lobster?” It’s not that the lobster is bad or unclean in and of itself, but the Israelites were set apart and did not blur the lines in all aspects of their lives. They ate fish because fish were animals meant only for water and did not have mixed physical characteristics like shellfish/lobsters do. Lobsters can survive in and out of water and have a mix of features designed for land and water so they were temporarily deemed “unclean” for purposes of maintaining the idea of distinction while the nation of Israel developed. Man then began to include other cultural concepts that indicated distinctiveness such as cultural practices for hair and head coverings, but as Paul mentions in these passages of scripture we are to “judge for ourselves” the appropriateness of these customs.
It was Christ that told the Pharisees:
Mark 7:15
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
Of course there are some that will say the passage focuses on eating food with unwashed hands versus eating food with the customary washed hands. Further Christ was condemning Pharisetical traditions that they tended to place above God’s law. In my opinion, he addressed both the concept of placing “customs and traditions” ahead of his law (as Paul noted in his passage about headship) while at the same time indicating that eating an animal of mixed charecteristics does not defile a person or then break a law….it’s sin that defiles man. Ultimately Christ came to fulfill the law and become the curse for the law so that man can be made righteous.
The word “rapture” is not mentioned in scripture much like the word “trinity” is not mentioned. Yet the demonstration of both is present in scripture. Now, I am not a pre-tribulation rapture adherent. I belief all followers of Christ will be subject to the great tribulation if they are alive at that time. We will be joined with our Lord and "caught up with him in the clouds" upon his return after that period of tribulation is past. There will be no sudden "vanishing of believers" or pre-tribulation rapture. I've read the "Left Behind" series of books, but only because I sometimes enjoy fiction.
Sin is as an offense against God. God is just, the law is God and the law is just. We break his law defiantly and offend him (or sin).
Believers in Christ are saved by grace through faith in Christ and thereby deemed righteous and justified before the throne of God. We are saved from God’s wrath and are sanctified by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and subject to his will for our lives. We forgo of our individual will and align ourselves with his will. That process of sanctification does not remove our sinful tendencies, but it’s also not a license to sin. As believers in Christ we adopt a repentant heart and completely turn away from our sin as best we are able. It’s the Holy Spirit that guides our future walk with our Savior in Christ and helps us to live as the salt and light for the world. Though we may stumble we are assured that we cannot be snatched from his hand. A relationship with Christ is about a lifelong journey in which we do all we can to emulate him though we will not escape the trappings of sin until he returns to claim his church. There is only one that ever existed in the person of Jesus Christ who was without sin.
I do have a couple of quick questions of my own that I’m curious about:
Do you give approximately 25-35% of your income (in whatever form that may take) back to the God as indicated in OT scripture. The Israelites tithed way beyond the often referenced 10% of their earnings (whatever form that took).
How do you interpret the following scripture:
1 Peter 3:8-17
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Hopefully I helped answer your questions because I’ve tried to answer honestly.
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If you take your faith seriously, then why do you not follow EVERYTHING in the bible? It would seem half-assed to only follow certain things and ignore others.
Yes, the secular method is called science. We learn and grow and change over time. That is the premise of science. But you're deliberately going against God's word by doing the opposite of what is prescribed in the bible. And that is not what God wants.
I'm not perfect.
Man's inability to fully fulfill God's law points to the reason for Christ.
He came to fulfill in us that which we can't on our own.
Also I dont know all things about scripture at once...i gather knowledge over time and correct behaviors accordingly because I attempt to emulate Christ.
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Meltdown.
AHAHAHAHHA!! POST OF THE DAY!!
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Okay, calm down, little emo boy. Go tell your parents how much you hate them, go buy beer and drink it with your friends, so you can rebel against society. Then you and your little emo friends can talk about how enlightened you all are, while the rest of us are mindless robots. :D :D
your wittiness rivals with primemuscle's :-\
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I'm not perfect.
Man's inability to fully God's law points to the reason for Christ.
He came to fulfill in us that which we can't on our own.
Also I dont know all things about scripture at once...i gather knowledge over time and correct behaviors accordingly because I attempt to emulate Christ.
I take that as an excuse.
This has nothing to do with infallibility. This is theists specifically focusing on bashing certain people or lifestyles (gays), according to their bible, and ignoring many other tenets in the bible. This goes beyond just making a "mistake" because humans are infallible.
I know this is not you. But it is many theists. So, I don't buy the infallible argument. They are making a very conscious decision to act a certain way against other groups of people.
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your wittiness rivals with primemuscle's :-\
Whatever makes you sleep better at night, little boy.
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I take that as an excuse.
This has nothing to do with infallibility. This is theists specifically focusing on bashing certain people or lifestyles (gays), according to their bible, and ignoring many other tenets in the bible. This goes beyond just making a "mistake" because humans are infallible.
I know this is not you. But it is many theists. So, I don't buy the infallible argument. They are making a very conscious decision to act a certain way against other groups of people.
Not an excuse it just is what I am.
Yes some believers dont follow or understand scripture.
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OK Hebrew Wiggs, it's obvious to me that you feel the strong desire to share messages like these, which is fine to me (freedom of speech of peace), but I still wonder "why?!", why can't you just live your life on your own terms, without telling others how and what to think? In fact, why would you even care?
I refuse to think in terms of "truth" or "your people", that's just your reference point.
According to the Bible, we, the Hebrews are the priests of this earth. We are commanded by God to spread the word of God to the rest of the world. If we do this, and follow his laws, statutes and commandments, we would be blessed. If we didn't we would be cursed. Needless to say, we didn't and we were cursed (See Deuteronomy 28). There would be a time period the world would forget who we were and we would go into slavery again but by ships this time to land not our own and we would be spread across the four corners of the globe. In the end times, it we would wake up to who we were. 2/3 of us will reject it and somehow will be killed. We will return to Israel upon Christs return.
This is who we are. Like white people are not all the same, neither are all black nations. Our homeland is Israel. We are the original Hebrews. Meaning, that's our Holy land. Just switchout Negro for Hebrew and things will make alot more sense. I'm just doing my job. Theres so much false doctrine and prophets out there, it's going to cost people their souls. If I can clear things up on a message board, I'm gonna do it. I'm not gonna twist arms though. If a person doesn't believe in God. Fine, but get off my nuts because the most of us do and I have a job to do.
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We will return to Israel upon Christs return.
Be specific: time & date ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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God gave me one of the best blowjobs of my life last week. And then tipped. That's my nugga.
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Most converted people today (aka wiggs) convert out of paranoia and fear. First they have drug problems, mental health issues, then they get paranoid and try to seek god.
My friend from years ago denied religion, he also said religion was just another form of control over people's minds. He had severe alcohol problems, used all sorts of prescription drugs for depression and suffered from bad selfesteem because he was too blond and average looking guy, he only dated fat women and felt extreme self hate for it.
I haven't seen him in few years and I just recently found out that he's in some christian camp in sweden... WHAT :D
I never was like that. I had my own mental problems, but I didn't turn to god, I still haven't turned to god. But I believe in god 100% but I'm not a godly man, I don't pray to god or devote myself to it. God isn't some atm machine for forgiveness, you have to completely turn your life around in order to get saved according to bible. I question people's faith who turn to god from the sake of fear.
All these believers who consume their minds with everything that aren't from god, loving it, then they preach about god... I just don't believe that their faith is true, they seem hypocrites.
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Solid post Devilsmile, and esp that first part is so damn true. I remember my conversations with young folks from a evangelical church, and many of them had a rock & roll life before they saw 'the light'.
The opposite can also be true.. A famous porn star in my country (she's too ugly to post a picture) grew up as a Jehovah witness, until she experienced her first orgasm.
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Most converted people today (aka wiggs) convert out of paranoia and fear. First they have drug problems, mental health issues, then they get paranoid and try to seek god.
My friend from years ago denied religion, he also said religion was just another form of control over people's minds. He had severe alcohol problems, used all sorts of prescription drugs for depression and suffered from bad selfesteem because he was too blond and average looking guy, he only dated fat women and felt extreme self hate for it.
I haven't seen him in few years and I just recently found out that he's in some christian camp in sweden... WHAT :D
I never was like that. I had my own mental problems, but I didn't turn to god, I still haven't turned to god. But I believe in god 100% but I'm not a godly man, I don't pray to god or devote myself to it. God isn't some atm machine for forgiveness, you have to completely turn your life around in order to get saved according to bible. I question people's faith who turn to god from the sake of fear.
All these believers who consume their minds with everything that aren't from god, loving it, then they preach about god... I just don't believe that their faith is true, they seem hypocrites.
What do YOU believe about God?
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What do YOU believe about God?
Well I believe that one needs to seek for god. According to the bible anyone who seeks god and wants to devote themselves to god truthfully will be heard. I believe that one can't fool god, god is the creator after all. I also believe that god knows my faith is true, but it's not enough to be saved, my lifestyle is definitely not christian, but I still believe in it.
I don't blame god for nothing, and I don't believe god changes lives, however I believe god can have exceptional influence on people to change their lives, even if it doesn't cure deceases or make you walthier. I believe most "christians" make the mistake asking god to give them something, like what can you give to me, god, give me better life! When a true christian should give him or herself to god instead, their thoughts and hearts.
I also face palm when people ask "if god is so great, why does he let the world burn". In my opinion god doesn't interfere with people's freedom of choice, no matter how heretic they may be, but god gives a choice to seek for him and not go into temptation. Everyone has a choice.
And knowing all this, today I will get high and go to a strip joint to rub my face on beautiful 20 year old med students
asses and breasts.
Solid post Devilsmile, and esp that first part is so damn true. I remember my conversations with young folks from a evangelical church, and many of them had a rock & roll life before they saw 'the light'.
The opposite can also be true.. A famous porn star in my country (she's too ugly to post a picture) grew up as a Jehovah witness, until she experienced her first orgasm.
seems legit :P
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yeah, we all believe in something
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yeah, we all believe in something
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Still does not explain why god would bother creating other galaxies, planets etc......
And if it did take 3 days to create just one planet.................. well
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Still does not explain why god would bother creating other galaxies, planets etc......
And if it did take 3 days to create just one planet.................. well
faith just like the big bang theory. you gotta have faith. Science is a given. But when you go all the way to the beginning, you are left no choice but to believe what ever you want to believe. That's why it's silly to argue about these two topics.
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God is a Getbigger:
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According to the Bible, we, the Hebrews are the priests of this earth. We are commanded by God to spread the word of God to the rest of the world. If we do this, and follow his laws, statutes and commandments, we would be blessed. If we didn't we would be cursed. Needless to say, we didn't and we were cursed (See Deuteronomy 28). There would be a time period the world would forget who we were and we would go into slavery again but by ships this time to land not our own and we would be spread across the four corners of the globe. In the end times, it we would wake up to who we were. 2/3 of us will reject it and somehow will be killed. We will return to Israel upon Christs return.
This is who we are. Like white people are not all the same, neither are all black nations. Our homeland is Israel. We are the original Hebrews. Meaning, that's our Holy land. Just switchout Negro for Hebrew and things will make alot more sense. I'm just doing my job. Theres so much false doctrine and prophets out there, it's going to cost people their souls. If I can clear things up on a message board, I'm gonna do it. I'm not gonna twist arms though. If a person doesn't believe in God. Fine, but get off my nuts because the most of us do and I have a job to do.
You are no more "Hebrew" than I. What you are is one delusional individual, searching for something to make you "feel" special in your own eyes. But those eyes are blind to the truth.
The only job you have to do is the one where you go to work. Make something of yourself instead making up something about yourself.
There are inaccuracies throughout the Bible and these are scientifically validated as such. How could this be, you ask? Men.
Just because someone claims that God told them to write something does not make it the Word of God. Just because a group of men, a council if you will, decided that something belongs as canon does not make it so. Test the spirits is what we are told.
An example of men who claim to be more than men and their ignorance put on display for all the world to see would be Joseph Smith of the Mormons.
He claimed that men lived on the moon and were dressed as Quakers. None could disprove him (at the time) and so those that followed his perverted (the guy was a big time sex fiend skirt chasing worthless pile of shit!) drivel yet again took his word as the Word. Test the spirits indeed.
Another example, you say? One word. A name actually...Mohammed. What a fucktard and a messed up worthless, violent piece of crap that asshole and his followers were and are. There are more I can assure you but I am certain you get the idea.
You've got "work to do",eh? You most certainly do. You've got a pathetic image that needs cleaning. A sort of Picture of Dorian Stupid that needs fixing. Fast.
I have no mongoloid in your inner battle with midget minded demonettes that haunt your sleepy time, but I can assure you I have zero problem pointing out when you are being stupid.
Again.
Is the Word itself a lie? Nope. For Christ is that Word made alive and He came to complete the Word and in doing so, us as well.
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"Our homeland is Israel".. like if the israelis are waiting for HeyBros ::)
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You are no more "Hebrew" than I. What you are is one delusional individual, searching for something to make you "feel" special in your own eyes. But those eyes are blind to the truth.
The only job you have to do is the one where you go to work. Make something of yourself instead making up something about yourself.
There are inaccuracies throughout the Bible and these are scientifically validated as such. How could this be, you ask? Men.
Just because someone claims that God told them to write something does not make it the Word of God. Just because a group of men, a council if you will, decided that something belongs as canon does not make it so. Test the spirits is what we are told.
An example of men who claim to be more than men and their ignorance put on display for all the world to see would be Joseph Smith of the Mormons.
He claimed that men lived on the moon and were dressed as Quakers. None could disprove him (at the time) and so those that followed his perverted (the guy was a big time sex fiend skirt chasing worthless pile of shit!) drivel yet again took his word as the Word. Test the spirits indeed.
Another example, you say? One word. A name actually...Mohammed. What a fucktard and a messed up worthless, violent piece of crap that asshole and his followers were and are. There are more I can assure you but I am certain you get the idea.
You've got "work to do",eh? You most certainly do. You've got a pathetic image that needs cleaning. A sort of Picture of Dorian Stupid that needs fixing. Fast.
I have no mongoloid in your inner battle with midget minded demonettes that haunt your sleepy time, but I can assure you I have zero problem pointing out when you are being stupid.
Again.
Is the Word itself a lie? Nope. For Christ is that Word made alive and He came to complete the Word and in doing so, us as well.
No "Be well"?
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No "Be well"?
I thought about it and decided I would not mean it this time. That and so much of what I say is probably best left unsaid.
Besides, I'm already too wordy, my friend. ;D
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No "Be well"?
Fie! A pox upon you. May your shoelaces knot stubbornly at inopportune moments.
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yeah, we all believe in something
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To be an atheist one doesn't need to believe in the Big Bang Theory, and certainly not in the way that theists believe in their deity of choice. And then, of course, there's the little matter than "there was nothing which exploded" isn't entirely accurate. But let's not sweat the small stuff, shall we?
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To be an atheist one doesn't need to believe in the Big Bang Theory, and certainly not in the way that theists believe in their deity of choice. And then, of course, there's the little matter than "there was nothing which exploded" isn't entirely accurate. But let's not sweat the small stuff, shall we?
yeah I din't say atheists = believes in big bang, I said we all believe in something. At the end it's all faith.
But let's not sweat the small stuff, shall we?
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yeah I din't say atheists = believes in big bang, I said we all believe in something. At the end it's all faith.
No, at the end it's not "all faith." Faith is belief in the absence of or contrary to evidence. Unlike all deities, you don't have accept gravity or transistors on faith. Instead you can look at how well the proposed theories fit the facts and how accurate their testable predictions are.
But let's not sweat the small stuff, shall we?
Let's not. You wouldn't like it if we did.
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You are no more "Hebrew" than I. What you are is one delusional individual, searching for something to make you "feel" special in your own eyes. But those eyes are blind to the truth.
The only job you have to do is the one where you go to work. Make something of yourself instead making up something about yourself.
There are inaccuracies throughout the Bible and these are scientifically validated as such. How could this be, you ask? Men.
Just because someone claims that God told them to write something does not make it the Word of God. Just because a group of men, a council if you will, decided that something belongs as canon does not make it so. Test the spirits is what we are told.
An example of men who claim to be more than men and their ignorance put on display for all the world to see would be Joseph Smith of the Mormons.
He claimed that men lived on the moon and were dressed as Quakers. None could disprove him (at the time) and so those that followed his perverted (the guy was a big time sex fiend skirt chasing worthless pile of shit!) drivel yet again took his word as the Word. Test the spirits indeed.
Another example, you say? One word. A name actually...Mohammed. What a fucktard and a messed up worthless, violent piece of crap that asshole and his followers were and are. There are more I can assure you but I am certain you get the idea.
You've got "work to do",eh? You most certainly do. You've got a pathetic image that needs cleaning. A sort of Picture of Dorian Stupid that needs fixing. Fast.
I have no mongoloid in your inner battle with midget minded demonettes that haunt your sleepy time, but I can assure you I have zero problem pointing out when you are being stupid.
Again.
Is the Word itself a lie? Nope. For Christ is that Word made alive and He came to complete the Word and in doing so, us as well.
can you not see this is a belief system? I am not doubting the divinity of Jesus, I am doubting the story that says he is the only embodiment of divinity to ever walk the earth or will ever walk the earth. We dont need anything or anyone to be complete.
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No, at the end it's not "all faith." Faith is belief in the absence of or contrary to evidence. Unlike all deities, you don't have accept gravity or transistors on faith. Instead you can look at how well the proposed theories fit the facts and how accurate their testable predictions are.
Let's not. You wouldn't like it if we did.
what are you so certain of? Logic, science... that's common sense. But where everything comes from, what was in the beginning, where does this big void of emptyness generate atoms all of a sudden, where does the emptyness come from is based on theories and predictions. Predictions and theories are not factual information,, they are testable only based on their rules (theories and predictions) so even you believe, even you have faith.
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He prayed to get a gf.
God didn't deliver one to him.
God is merciful and wouldn't put some poor girl in hell with this goomer.
This is proof that GOD exists and he's a getbigger.
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He prayed to get a gf.
God didn't deliver one to him.
God is merciful and wouldn't put some poor girl in hell with this goomer.
This is proof that GOD exists and he's a getbigger.
Instantly you'd think that THAT truly is a testable prediction, completely factual.
However... based on getbigs philosophy, women get wet from the buck. So what if that man was filthy rich? Then you would be wrong, wouldn't you?
We can only believe :D
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can you not see this is a belief system? I am not doubting the divinity of Jesus, I am doubting the story that says he is the only embodiment of divinity to ever walk the earth or will ever walk the earth. We dont need anything or anyone to be complete.
Your choice. So long as you don't try to blow anybody up, behead them or force the filthy Muslim bullshit in any way, shape or form (e.g., sharia law) upon anyone I don't care about your belief system. So long as you don't claim to be more than you really are in a typically male attempt at getting sex, drugs, money, etc. and all in the name of God or god, I don't care about your belief system.
Let us have a cursory examination of the Christ and a few other "holy" men, shall we?
Mohammed was a filthy pedophile and murderer. Jesus? Nope.
Joseph Smith was filthy adulterer and liar. Jesus? Nope.
Jim Jones? More of the same. Jesus? More of the opposite of Jim Jones.
Just about any of the popes and imams through the centuries were worthless sacks of dung. Jesus? Nope. Nah...Make that all of the popes and imams.
They are men doing what men do for the sake of themselves. Power, pussy and more often than not, buggery of boys. Trash.
If the Christ did what Mohammed did, I would denounce him. If the Christ did what Joseph Smith did, I would denounce him. If the Christ did what Jim Jones and so many have done in His name (for their own benefit) I would denounce him.
But He didn't and so I don't. I follow no man.
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Christ your tense, relax. What are you on about muslim bullshit? where did I say I was muslim? you sound crazy dude.
Jesus was a man while he lived on earth albeit one awake to his divine nature, one who wanted us to awaken to our divine nature not put him on a pedestal as the one and only son of god.
Go out in nature and meditate man, please!
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Christ your tense, relax. What are you on about muslim bullshit? where did I say I was muslim? you sound crazy dude.
Jesus was a man while he lived on earth albeit one awake to his divine nature, one who wanted us to awaken to our divine nature not put him on a pedestal as the one and only son of god.
Go out in nature and meditate man, please!
If you are going to reference something as a pull quote...
I named more than just one historic buttwipe. Jim Jones. Any pope or imam. Joseph Smith (a particularly worthless turd of a manlet in my mind). Mohammed in particular because his is a far more skeeeery example of the perversion of man than most.
All claimed to be more than mere men and of them only Jesus of Nazareth behaved as such.
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If you are going to reference something as a pull quote...
I named more than just one historic buttwipe. Jim Jones. Any pope or imam. Joseph Smith (a particularly worthless turd of a manlet in my mind). Mohammed in particular because his is a far more skeeeery example of the perversion of man than most.
All claimed to be more than mere men and of them only Jesus of Nazareth behaved as such.
did I undestand you correctly? That you claim jesus acted in a way that would be pervertion today? Because I have no idea what you're talking about. In my understanding bible warns people about false gospel that blasphems god etc. God tells in the bible that many will come in his name and claim to be christ. So I think you have only been fooled By the lies.
I mean, believer or no, but we gotta at least keep ourselves in the right gospel here if we're going to talk about it
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did I undestand you correctly? That you claim jesus acted in a way that would be pervertion today? Because I have no idea what you're talking about. In my understanding bible warns people about false gospel that blasphems god etc. God tells in the bible that many will come in his name and claim to be christ. So I think you have only been fooled By the lies.
I mean, believer or no, but we gotta at least keep ourselves in the right gospel here if we're going to talk about it
No, I spoke of what He did in comparison to what men do. Jesus never did what men do, if he had done so I would eschew him like the plague.
But Jesus of Nazareth was more than mere man. Unfortunately in being men we are far less than what a Man should be. Jesus lived as He taught. So many others have claimed to be more than just men and by the actions of their lives showed us otherwise.
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No, I spoke of what He did in comparison to what men do. Jesus never did what men do, if he had done so I would eschew him like the plague.
But Jesus of Nazareth was more than mere man. Unfortunately in being men we are far less than what a Man should be. Jesus lived as He taught. So many others have claimed to be more than just men and by the actions of their lives showed us otherwise.
ahh okey. Well yes indeed.
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the bible was designed as a tool for social control to keep men asleep, meek and feeling worthless in the face of god. No enlightened man would say he and he only is the way the truth and the life, unless he was speaking as god the father who is the way the truth and the life but salvation does not depend on the form of Jesus it depends on you/us waking up, the kingdom of god is within.
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the bible was designed as a tool for social control to keep men asleep, meek and feeling worthless in the face of god. No enlightened man would say he and he only is the way the truth and the life, unless he was speaking as god the father who is the way the truth and the life but salvation does not depend on the form of Jesus it depends on you/us waking up, the kingdom of god is within.
You were making sense until about the about the last 37 words of your post
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I am not trying to appease either the religious or atheist crowd when I share my thoughts.
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I am not trying to appease either the religious or atheist crowd when I share my thoughts.
figured that...