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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Voici Le Rédempteur on February 28, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
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Can't wait to see this!
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Looks really promising!!
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Love Adam corolla. Really miss the days of him on loveline.
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What contractor would agree to have their episode air after being proved to be a scam artist?
Good idea for a show, but most likely staged.....
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Falcon has caught a few of these guys.
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Because 'homeowners' never just go for the cheapest quote and ignore everything else. Fuck em. You get what you pay for.
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Because 'homeowners' never just go for the cheapest quote and ignore everything else. Fuck em. You get what you pay for.
Are you saying the more someone pays, the more honest the work/workers?
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What contractor would agree to have their episode air after being proved to be a scam artist?
Good idea for a show, but most likely staged.....
Same way perps "agree" to be on the air with Chris Hansen.
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Contractors can be very tricky individuals. I'm looking forward to this show.
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Contractors can be very tricky individuals. I'm looking forward to this show.
As Adam said, a vast majority didn't get into this line of work by choice... it just happened.
I started working in construction at 15yo all my way through college. Good work and very rewarding at times.
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another staged reality show
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About as real as that staged "Warlocks Rising" biker show or that stupid fake Moonshiners program, both on Discovery.
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fake, scripted, actors, and retards to watch the whole comedy.
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fake, scripted, actors.
This ^^ Looks asinine.... Like most 'reality" shows...
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As Adam said, a vast majority didn't get into this line of work by choice... it just happened.
I started working in construction at 15yo all my way through college. Good work and very rewarding at times.
Have you ever watched Holmes on homes?
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Have you ever watched Holmes on homes?
Many times. Good show.
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Many times. Good show.
It's the only home improvement show I can watch. Right now I'm doing some construction on my house.
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Fake & gay
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It's the only home improvement show I can watch. Right now I'm doing some construction on my house.
Me too. Concrete deck + outdoor kitchen & overhang. Should be pretty sweet.
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it's fake and gay folks. not one or other but both, so watch out!
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Me too. Concrete deck + outdoor kitchen & overhang. Should be pretty sweet.
That sounds nice, man. If I lived in a warmer climate I would build an outside kitchen.
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Us builders are still waiting for a 'rogue customers' show. Plenty of us honest builders have been fucked over by mongol customers
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Are you saying the more someone pays, the more honest the work/workers?
To some degree. As with anything, cost can be (although isn't necessarily) a measure of quality. Some guys will charge sky high and ruin the place, but no one experienced and reliable is going to be the cheapest.
Without delving into the fascinating world of mandated, job specific, material, and labor costs, I'll just say that El Cheapo contractors recognize that HOs don't have corporate or government money to spend, and that the HO had to personally work for every dollar of it, so the successful contractor in the housing renovation market is going to sell the way HOs buy: price. Those who don't wash out. The cut-corner business model is the only one ultimately marketable to customers who don't understand how to compare what they're paying for, so shady operators proliferate in the HO market. Same reason people buy chinese made products, and sometimes that's ok as long as they understand it isn't going to be great quality.
It's not that contractors are simply scoundrels (although many are). The good ones (with the exception of plumbers, who are all fat, lazy, slovenly, and evil) just don't bother much with the HO market. I take referral calls and that's it.
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Are you saying the more someone pays, the more honest the work/workers?
Certainly not but some contractors are charging more because their work is of better quality.
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Us builders are still waiting for a 'rogue customers' show. Plenty of us honest builders have been fucked over by mongol customers
I know countless guys who got done over by little old ladies. Apparently it's all tea and cookies during work and the check is always in the mail!
I mean... what are you gonna do?
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I know countless guys who got done over by little old ladies. Apparently it's all tea and cookies during work and the check is always in the mail!
I mean... what are you gonna do?
I know of a fair few who have suffered similar. Im sure we cannot even legaly remove work that hasnt been payed for, have had to chase payment several times but my biggest problem has been customers who move goal posts and expect extras without paying for them, or customers that will argue the toss when the patio you quoted them for suddenly is twice the size it originally was
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I know of a fair few who have suffered similar. Im sure we cannot even legaly remove work that hasnt been payed for, have had to chase payment several times but my biggest problem has been customers who move goal posts and expect extras without paying for them, or customers that will argue the toss when the patio you quoted them for suddenly is twice the size it originally was
I've heard lots of advice thrown around about strictly defining the scope, this & that in writing, amortorizing excess job costs and bad debt, collection, etc. Why bother? So your lawyer can get a new urban 4WD? You break your ass on some of these jobs. More than anything, I just don't like dealing with people. Being 'invited' into their home, they're hovering around, the bloke ALWAYS needing to talk about how he could have done it all himself if he had the time, etc.
My solution is simply spend my energy elsewhere. I'm a good production guy and can crank it out (commercial project work was hit & miss when I was in the UK tho) but I like commercial and municipal maintenance, and heritage restoration these days. Right budgets, usually work alone. Heritage restoration is huge in your country.
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Contractors can be very tricky individuals. I'm looking forward to this show.
Fly by night bums with no credentials or trade tickets who claim to be contractors can be very tricky individuals. Also, customers who think they know it all because they watch Bob Vila can be extremely problematic, making things more difficult than they have to be. Paying the money for a reputable tradesman is something people have a hard time doing for some reason...
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Can't wait to see this!
there was a similar programme to that over here. they had a house rigged out with hidden cameras which once caught a plumber pissing in the water cistern he was meant to be sorting :-\ ;D
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people far too often assume to nail in a subfloor when it should be screwed in
if you nail it eventually the nails will ride up through the lenolium. such a common scene
i dont nail anything even roofers nailing in plywood on the roof is a bad idea just screw in everything and everything stays put
the problem is people are too weak, lack energy to drill in screws
im the minority and this post wont even matter because the majority is idiotic
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people far too often assume to nail in a subfloor when it should be screwed in
if you nail it eventually the nails will ride up through the lenolium. such a common scene
i dont nail anything even roofers nailing in plywood on the roof is a bad idea just screw in everything and everything stays put
the problem is people are too weak, lack energy to drill in screws
im the minority and this post wont even matter because the majority is idiotic
Nobody nails in subfloor, what kind of crack jobs you on? Or you dealing with this on places you fix up?
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people far too often assume to nail in a subfloor when it should be screwed in
if you nail it eventually the nails will ride up through the lenolium. such a common scene
i dont nail anything even roofers nailing in plywood on the roof is a bad idea just screw in everything and everything stays put
the problem is people are too weak, lack energy to drill in screws
im the minority and this post wont even matter because the majority is idiotic
'why don't you take a seat right over there, johnny ?'
'i swear i wasn't nailin' 'em in..'
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The guy who flipped the house we brought should be on the show ... although I suspect he spends his days standing outside home depot waiting for work rather than actually contracting. Its a little shop of horrors everytime I replace something he half assed. Lucky there's always litigation....
The worst thing about the housing market in the bay is having to grudgingly pay for horrific "upgrade" work on a previously solid house because there's so little otherwise decent inventory that's not in the million+ range. La was the same, these fuckheads are back like its 2007 again, ruining good houses and taking good deals off the market before they even hit mls
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people far too often assume to nail in a subfloor when it should be screwed in
if you nail it eventually the nails will ride up through the lenolium. such a common scene
i dont nail anything even roofers nailing in plywood on the roof is a bad idea just screw in everything and everything stays put
the problem is people are too weak, lack energy to drill in screws
im the minority and this post wont even matter because the majority is idiotic
screws are great for preventing squeaks in floors but they dont have the sheer strength and flexibility of a good ol nail.
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screws are great for preventing squeaks in floors but they dont have the sheer strength and flexibility of a good ol nail.
Screw for subfloors are in the building code for most places. Not doing so is not acceptable. Especially that most builders use pos particle boards instead of plywood.
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screws are great for preventing squeaks in floors but they dont have the sheer strength and flexibility of a good ol nail.
you are wrong
try prying up a peice of wood that is nailed compared to one that is screwed in
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you are wrong
try prying up a peice of wood that is nailed compared to one that is screwed in
Nail tip glue makes them harder to pull out than a screw.
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Nail tip glue makes them harder to pull out than a screw.
That's my cock's nickname.
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That's my cock's nickname.
;D ;D
mines been the teflon stick as of late :-\
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;D ;D
mines been the teflon stick as of late :-\
sorry that nothing sticks... not even egg whites...
At least it's not "limp banana peel"
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Screw for subfloors are in the building code for most places. Not doing so is not acceptable. Especially that most builders use pos particle boards instead of plywood.
How particle board even meets code is beyond me. Nothing more inspiring in the quality of a product than seeing it soak up water like a sponge and swell
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How particle board even meets code is beyond me. Nothing more inspiring in the quality of a product than seeing it soak up water like a sponge and swell
when i was framing houses at 16 we put up so much of that almost inch thick osb board i wonder how it held up. it was thick like 3/4 i remember thinking that was hard work, we would work sun up to sun down , and i was dieting on coca cola or pepsi and a couple sausage biscuits a day and that was it
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when i was framing houses at 16 we put up so much of that almost inch thick osb board i wonder how it held up. it was thick like 3/4 i remember thinking that was hard work, we would work sun up to sun down , and i was dieting on coca cola or pepsi and a couple sausage biscuits a day and that was it
Wonder if you used screws instead of nails it would hold up better?
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Wonder if you used screws instead of nails it would hold up better?
we had nail guns then . but those were some heavy sheets back then it was my first taste of real work