Millions of Americans losing health coverage due to Obamacare

[tonymctones]

wow, 3 pages and not one person has addressed the premise of this thread!!!!

come on mods start deleting shit and banning posters for just bashing people with no comment about the thread itself.

This is a serious issue and ppl continue to look over it

[Necrosis]

wow, 3 pages and not one person has addressed the premise of this thread!!!!

come on mods start deleting shit and banning posters for just bashing people with no comment about the thread itself.

This is a serious issue and ppl continue to look over it

It's serious like Obama being a Kenya, the fake IRS scandal, the fake Benghazi scandal, the lies spread about the ACA, Obama's shutdown etc.

At a certain point people stop taking you seriously, that is happening. Look at the thread starters, this is a nuthouse, post after post about disaster, lies and utter non-sense.

33, roger bacon (33 probably) and Dario post the same nonsense.

[tonymctones]

It's serious like Obama being a Kenya, the fake IRS scandal, the fake Benghazi scandal, the lies spread about the ACA, Obama's shutdown etc.

At a certain point people stop taking you seriously, that is happening. Look at the thread starters, this is a nuthouse, post after post about disaster, lies and utter non-sense.

33, roger bacon (33 probably) and Dario post the same nonsense.

oh I agree, I havent taken you seriously since day 1 when you displayed the shining ignorance and stupidy that only a canadian can about american issues and politics.

That doesnt stop me from refuting your stupidity at every turn....

you and your ilk on the other hand simply result to name calling and diversionary tactics.

You see I may call you a ignorant, woefully misinformed moron...BUT I also refute your stupidity in the same post.

Where are you refuting the points of this thread?

[Option D]

wow, 3 pages and not one person has addressed the premise of this thread!!!!

come on mods start deleting shit and banning posters for just bashing people with no comment about the thread itself.

This is a serious issue and ppl continue to look over it

dude this is why i dont waste my time with 333s posts re obama care
1 he lied through his fingers when he said he got a letter from his insurance company stating his increase due to obama care....and the damn thing hadnt even taken effect yet....also there was a townhall regarding that increase from his plan stating the planned increase a year before it was implemented.

but Re this article about obama care...Consider the source

"Find political news and opinion from John McCormack at The Weekly Standard, a leading source for conservative editorial insights."

[Soul Crusher]

dude this is why i dont waste my time with 333s posts re obama care
1 he lied through his fingers when he said he got a letter from his insurance company stating his increase due to obama care....and the damn thing hadnt even taken effect yet....also there was a townhall regarding that increase from his plan stating the planned increase a year before it was implemented.

but Re this article about obama care...Consider the source

"Find political news and opinion from John McCormack at The Weekly Standard, a leading source for conservative editorial insights."

Lmfao.  Off yourself moron.    This piece of trash you voted for 2x over just destroyed your profession and that is the best you can do?   I warned you ears ago this would happen ad I am again proven correct.

[bears]

dude this is why i dont waste my time with 333s posts re obama care
1 he lied through his fingers when he said he got a letter from his insurance company stating his increase due to obama care....and the damn thing hadnt even taken effect yet....also there was a townhall regarding that increase from his plan stating the planned increase a year before it was implemented.

but Re this article about obama care...Consider the source

"Find political news and opinion from John McCormack at The Weekly Standard, a leading source for conservative editorial insights."

my blue cross blue shield guy called me in early September and told me that our premiums were going up beginning January 1, 2014 because of the new mandates.  So 333 most probably wasn't lying.  There is a discount for prepayment. 

it sounds like you guys don't WANT to believe this.  and Necrosis was giving me shit because I "didn't read Obamacare" and didn't hop on the new exchange and completely change our health care plan less than 2 weeks after it began.  you guys aren't dealing with this in the real world.  that is and always will be the problem.  I'll ask you the same question i ask all the otherpeople on this board defending Obamacare to the death (who never answer this question by the way).  How many people do YOU pay health insurance for? 

I haven't done anything yet because all of my colleagues (real world people who actually own businesses) tell me to stay with what i've got for 2014 and see how the exchange works out for other businesses like my own.

[LurkerNoMore]

my blue cross blue shield guy called me in early September and told me that our premiums were going up beginning January 1, 2014 because of the new mandates.  So 333 most probably wasn't lying.  There is a discount for prepayment. 

it sounds like you guys don't WANT to believe this.  and Necrosis was giving me shit because I "didn't read Obamacare" and didn't hop on the new exchange and completely change our health care plan less than 2 weeks after it began.  you guys aren't dealing with this in the real world.  that is and always will be the problem.  I'll ask you the same question i ask all the otherpeople on this board defending Obamacare to the death (who never answer this question by the way).  How many people do YOU pay health insurance for? 

I haven't done anything yet because all of my colleagues (real world people who actually own businesses) tell me to stay with what i've got for 2014 and see how the exchange works out for other businesses like my own.

The crybaby on here was claiming two years ago that he got a letter.   

[bears]

The crybaby on here was claiming two years ago that he got a letter.   

oh.  yeah thats stupid. 

[Dos Equis]

It's serious like Obama being a Kenya, the fake IRS scandal, the fake Benghazi scandal, the lies spread about the ACA, Obama's shutdown etc.

At a certain point people stop taking you seriously, that is happening. Look at the thread starters, this is a nuthouse, post after post about disaster, lies and utter non-sense.

33, roger bacon (33 probably) and Dario post the same nonsense.

Why should anyone take you seriously? 

Im a bit of an addict (smoke weed at night) and some of these people are sick or traumatized. honestly, I think I just take an opposing position to everyone on here to simply argue and sharpen my wit etc. I honestly agree with you.

I am also trolling a bit.

[Dos Equis]

my blue cross blue shield guy called me in early September and told me that our premiums were going up beginning January 1, 2014 because of the new mandates.  So 333 most probably wasn't lying.  There is a discount for prepayment. 

it sounds like you guys don't WANT to believe this.  and Necrosis was giving me shit because I "didn't read Obamacare" and didn't hop on the new exchange and completely change our health care plan less than 2 weeks after it began.  you guys aren't dealing with this in the real world.  that is and always will be the problem.  I'll ask you the same question i ask all the otherpeople on this board defending Obamacare to the death (who never answer this question by the way).  How many people do YOU pay health insurance for? 

I haven't done anything yet because all of my colleagues (real world people who actually own businesses) tell me to stay with what i've got for 2014 and see how the exchange works out for other businesses like my own.

I've heard a number of people say their premiums are increasing under Obamacare. 

[bears]

I've heard a number of people say their premiums are increasing under Obamacare. 

how anyone really thought that they wouldn't is sort of ridiculous.  it never made sense to me.  the fact that he told us that nothing would change for the people who had insurance pisses me off.  yeah nothing changed.  except my fucking premiums went up 46%!!! 

[Dos Equis]

how anyone really thought that they wouldn't is sort of ridiculous.  it never made sense to me.  the fact that he told us that nothing would change for the people who had insurance pisses me off.  yeah nothing changed.  except my fucking premiums went up 46%!!! 

Sorry to hear that.  It is apparently happening all over.  But hey that's what the people voted for.  Elections have consequences. 

[tonymctones]

dude this is why i dont waste my time with 333s posts re obama care
1 he lied through his fingers when he said he got a letter from his insurance company stating his increase due to obama care....and the damn thing hadnt even taken effect yet....also there was a townhall regarding that increase from his plan stating the planned increase a year before it was implemented.

but Re this article about obama care...Consider the source

"Find political news and opinion from John McCormack at The Weekly Standard, a leading source for conservative editorial insights."

thats great mal then call him out on his bull shit...THIS ISNT BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!

Hundreds of thousand...even MILLIONS of people are going to be kicked off their current plans many of which were completely happy and many of which will end up having to pay more for health insurance.

Dont let this fucking travesty of a shit bill go by b/c you dont like 3

[doison]

I've heard a number of people say their premiums are increasing under Obamacare. 

Clearly not true.  Premiums increase sometimes, but it's not because of the ACA.  Overall premiums should go down, while also insuring millions of people who didn't previously have insurance. 
Plus, if you like your insurance, you can keep it EXACTLY as it is.  I believe the president has been clear on this...I don't understand why you neocon repubes still insist otherwise

[Dos Equis]

Clearly not true.  Premiums increase sometimes, but it's not because of the ACA.  Overall premiums should go down, while also insuring millions of people who didn't previously have insurance. 
Plus, if you like your insurance, you can keep it EXACTLY as it is.  I believe the president has been clear on this...I don't understand why you neocon repubes still insist otherwise

I literally looked at the calendar to ensure it wasn't 1 April.  lol 

[tonymctones]

Clearly not true.  Premiums increase sometimes, but it's not because of the ACA.  Overall premiums should go down, while also insuring millions of people who didn't previously have insurance. 
Plus, if you like your insurance, you can keep it EXACTLY as it is.  I believe the president has been clear on this...I don't understand why you neocon repubes still insist otherwise

this guy is being facetious right?

[polychronopolous]

my blue cross blue shield guy called me in early September and told me that our premiums were going up beginning January 1, 2014 because of the new mandates.  So 333 most probably wasn't lying.  There is a discount for prepayment. 

it sounds like you guys don't WANT to believe this.  and Necrosis was giving me shit because I "didn't read Obamacare" and didn't hop on the new exchange and completely change our health care plan less than 2 weeks after it began.  you guys aren't dealing with this in the real world.  that is and always will be the problem.  I'll ask you the same question i ask all the otherpeople on this board defending Obamacare to the death (who never answer this question by the way).  How many people do YOU pay health insurance for? 

I haven't done anything yet because all of my colleagues (real world people who actually own businesses) tell me to stay with what i've got for 2014 and see how the exchange works out for other businesses like my own.

Hell, the proof is in the pudding. This forum is full of healthy young men, which should be the very life blood that keeps ObamaCare running. How many Obama supporters on here plan to sign up, pay extra and subsidize the less unfortunate to show those evil, greedy racist republicans how "caring" and "compassionate" they are??

[Option D]

I've heard a number of people say their premiums are increasing under Obamacare. 

and ive heard many people saying theirs is cheaper because of the ACA...now what

[Option D]

oh.  yeah thats stupid. 

yeah this fool saying thi in 2009 lmao

[bears]

Clearly not true.  Premiums increase sometimes, but it's not because of the ACA.  Overall premiums should go down, while also insuring millions of people who didn't previously have insurance.  Plus, if you like your insurance, you can keep it EXACTLY as it is.  I believe the president has been clear on this...I don't understand why you neocon repubes still insist otherwise

how does that sentence make sense to anyone?  economically speaking.  please try to explain how this is possible.

[headhuntersix]

How does neocon repub even matter in this debate. I swear you idiot libs ought to spend less time on democratic underground and more time trying to get your facts straight.

[whork]

how does that sentence make sense to anyone?  economically speaking.  please try to explain how this is possible.

What do you think happens when an uninsured get help today?

Hint: It aint free and it raises cost that raises premiums.

[Coach is Back!]

You can't argue with the fantasy logic and delusions that Coach has.  Stop trying to point out the obvious.

The fact that you voted for this clown and me starting this "I told you so" thread exempts you from any possible intelligence you might have had.  Congrats, you not only prove me correct on a daily basis but your part of the problem with this country. Again, why don't you just admit you fucked up when you voted for this? People like you ARE the blame for the current problems. So admit it.

[Dago_Joe]

how does that sentence make sense to anyone?  economically speaking.  please try to explain how this is possible.

The same way that INCREASING government spending and taxing working middle class Americans more and more will somehow get us OUT OF DEBT somehow makes sense to libs.  Retard logic at it's finest.  Because communism and socialism has been a resounding success everywhere it has been tried 

[Dos Equis]

and ive heard many people saying theirs is cheaper because of the ACA...now what

O Rly?  Let's assume you were actually able to speak with "many" of the handful of people who signed up, the fact is a number of people are seeing their rates increase (including bears in this thread).  The president promised the American people that costs would go down for everyone.  That was not true.

Also, there are a number of stories like this:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=503145.0