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Title: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
Romney takes lead in electoral college. Benny? Hello?
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Romney takes lead in electoral college. Benny? Hello?

Gallup up by 7 


The Empty Binder is done.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
This reflects after the first debate, not the second.  Keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2012, 11:23:53 AM
This reflects after the first debate, not the second.  Keep that in mind.

It helped because all of Obama lies from the second debate are coming out and adjusting.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 11:25:12 AM
This reflects after the first debate, not the second.  Keep that in mind.

False - Gallup today has the VP and second debate in the numbers in the rolling average.


TA - get your kleenex ready. 


Empty Binder is done. 

Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: LATS on October 18, 2012, 11:25:44 AM
Even in polls taking into account with today's date have him ahead in swing stares and country overall.. Now I would take gallups poll with a 6 point lead wih a grain of salt.. But even if this race is a tie going into ele tion day Romney wins.. Ties usually favor he challenger..
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: tommywishbone on October 18, 2012, 11:26:46 AM
Romney can not win. Sorry. He's a carbon copy of John Kerry-  a terrible canidate.

Obama ain't no getbigger but he's better than the option.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Grape Ape on October 18, 2012, 11:31:53 AM
Even in polls taking into account with today's date have him ahead in swing stares and country overall.. Now I would take gallups poll with a 6 point lead wih a grain of salt.. But even if this race is a tie going into ele tion day Romney wins.. Ties usually favor he challenger..

Yeah - it's not the absolute number, but the trend that should scare the shit out of those who aren't voting Romney.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 11:36:16 AM
Romney can not win. Sorry. He's a carbon copy of John Kerry-  a terrible canidate.

Obama ain't no getbigger but he's better than the option.

Says who? He's up in the EC and up in the national polls. If Obama doesn't get his act together QUICKLY, he's going to get smoked.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 11:43:08 AM
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 12:09:10 PM
 ???
I thought Republicans operated under the assumption that all these polls were false, rigged or bullshit.

Now all of a sudden they want to believe them.  What gives?
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:11:52 PM
???
I thought Republicans operated under the assumption that all these polls were false, rigged or bullshit.

Now all of a sudden they want to believe them.  What gives?

They are using the likely voter and realistic party turnout models now! 

The polls earlier were all based on 2008 numbers which obama wont even possibly come near. 

He is done.

________________________ _______

"I want your vote. I want your vote. I am not too proud to beg; I want you to vote. And the good news is, you can vote in Ohio, right now. Find out where at vote.barackobama.com. If you live nearby, you can vote just a few blocks away," President Obama said at a campaign event in Ohio this evening.  

Obama then gave the address for the location to vote early.







Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 12:13:32 PM
???
I thought Republicans operated under the assumption that all these polls were false, rigged or bullshit.

Now all of a sudden they want to believe them.  What gives?

We actually check the internals, instead of just taking them at face value. Plus, NOBODY claimed that all the polls were false or rigged. You should give it a try.

Much as we checked the internals on the debate Obama supposedly won.

Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:14:30 PM
Romney can not win. Sorry. He's a carbon copy of John Kerry-  a terrible canidate.

Obama ain't no getbigger but he's better than the option.

100% correct, blows my mind these guys on here making 250k tops think they will benefit under Romney
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:15:26 PM
100% correct, blows my mind these guys on here making 250k tops think they will benefit under Romney

LOL!!!!

Get your kleenex ready. 
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 12:20:54 PM
False - Gallup today has the VP and second debate in the numbers in the rolling average.


TA - get your kleenex ready. 


Empty Binder is done. 


I like you my friend, but sometimes you gotta really face the reality and the facts.  The Gallup polling was conducted from October 9th to October 15th, the second debate was on October 16th.  Also these are among likely voters, not registered- something else to keep in mind.

I know you are capable of interpreting all of that correctly.  Why would you need to pretend otherwise?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx

The latest result, from Oct. 9-15, is based on 2,723 likely voters
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
???
I thought Republicans operated under the assumption that all these polls were false, rigged or bullshit.

Now all of a sudden they want to believe them.  What gives?

There's a time when the polls do not matter, like 90 days or even 60days, we have less than 20 days....NOW they matter. The polls are less likely to be manipulated. Remember, RNC, DNC, and 3 debates.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
LOL!!!!

Get your kleenex ready. 

Haha, there won't be any need. I will get the popcorn ready tho for you to sky rocket to 110,000 post with post like:    election was fixed
          Libs stole votes
          Worlds gonna end now bla bla bla :D

        
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:23:54 PM
I like you my friend, but sometimes you gotta really face the reality and the facts.  The Gallup polling was conducted from October 9th to October 15th, the second debate was on October 16th.  Also these are among likely voters, not registered- something else to keep in mind.

I know you are capable of interpreting all of that correctly.  Why would you need to pretend otherwise?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx

The latest result, from Oct. 9-15, is based on 2,723 likely voters

And you think he is getting a bounce from the second debate?   Even PPP said today obama is not getting a bounce from the 2nd debate.  

I guess I was wrong if the second debate was not in the rolling average, but the VP debate which you though biden crushed ryan is and did it o anything at all?  Yes!!!!   It brought O-THUG down and Romney up.  
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 12:24:19 PM
100% correct, blows my mind these guys on here making 250k tops think they will benefit under Romney

It's simple. Liberals like you think that Obama is only going to hike taxes on those making over 250K. Anyone who had a decent breakfast knows that's never the case. Once the rich take their money and run (and rich liberals do that as well as their conservative counterparts), guess who's next (Hint: Obama's extension of the Bush tax cuts on the middle class were only to last FOR A YEAR).

Plus, if taxes go up, businesses DON'T HIRE; guess who that affects.

If taxes go up, those with jobs get their hours reduced; guess who that affects.

If taxes go up, businesses start hiring part-time workers, to get out of paying for healthcare benefits; guess who that affects.

See all you lefties who think Obama is going to give you stuff, by taking it from someone else, are in for rude awakenings when realities hit.

That's why he needs to get gone NOW (as in Nov. 6....OK Jan 2013)!!
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 12:24:54 PM
We actually check the internals, instead of just taking them at face value. Plus, NOBODY claimed that all the polls were false or rigged. You should give it a try.

Much as we checked the internals on the debate Obama supposedly won.


You didn`t check anything.  How do I know?  You still believe the earth is 6000 years old and have yet to check on that.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:26:03 PM
And you think he is getting a bounce from the second debate?   Even PPP said today obama is not getting a bounce from the 2nd debate.  

I guess I was wrong if the second debate was not in the rolling average, but the VP debate which you though biden crushed ryan is and did it o anything at all?  Yes!!!!   It brought O-THUG down and Romney up.  

Why do you think Obama can't bounce from 2nd but your guy can skyrocket from 1st? I would say 3rd debate could push and Obama would still win
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:27:36 PM
Why do you think Obama can't bounce from 2nd but your guy can skyrocket from 1st? I would say 3rd debate could push and Obama would still win


Because in a one one format like the first debate - especialy w shieffer - obama has nothing to say.   Its on foreign policy which he has been a disaster.   
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 12:31:21 PM

Because in a one one format like the first debate - especialy w shieffer - obama has nothing to say.   Its on foreign policy which he has been a disaster.   
Thats by far Obama`s strong point and that is where Romney fails big time.  He is clueless when it comes to Foreign Policy.  Obama has been one of the best Presidents when it comes to Foreign Policy and especially dealing with terrorism.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 12:33:01 PM
I swear this is like grown people arguing whether Santa Claus can beat up the Easter Bunny.
Depending on whores politicians, is like depending on a deranged killer with a gun to save you from a burning building, that he set on fire.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:34:13 PM
Thats by far Obama`s strong point and that is where Romney fails big time.  He is clueless when it comes to Foreign Policy.  Obama has been one of the best Presidents when it comes to Foreign Policy and especially dealing with terrorism.

The Arab Spring - FAIL

Russia - "About that flexibility you need Mr. President"

Mexico - Fast n Furious

Mid East Peace process - nothing done at all

Canada - FAIL  

Europe - obama's economic policies rival greece

Asia - China is our banker

Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
I swear this is like grown people arguing whether Santa Claus can beat up the Easter Bunny.
Depending on whores politicians, is like depending on a deranged killer with a gun to save you from a burning building, that he set on fire.

As opposed to arguing which mans' glutes in a glittery thong prancing around a stage to the cat calls of other men is better?   
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
???
I thought Republicans operated under the assumption that all these polls were false, rigged or bullshit.

Now all of a sudden they want to believe them.  What gives?

Right.. this is just a bit funny to me. So.. the Polls are bullshit if the favor obama and there are all kinds of flaws.
OR
Fact checkers that found out Ryan was lying, all bullshit, unless they found out Biden was lying about Libya... then theyre spot on
Or
3333 quoted Bill Mahers tweets after the first debate, not so much after this one.
Inconsistancy is their MO
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 12:41:08 PM
False - Gallup today has the VP and second debate in the numbers in the rolling average.


TA - get your kleenex ready. 


Empty Binder is done. 



I like you my friend, but sometimes you gotta really face the reality and the facts.  The Gallup polling was conducted from October 9th to October 15th, the second debate was on October 16th.  Also these are among likely voters, not registered- something else to keep in mind.

I know you are capable of interpreting all of that correctly.  Why would you need to pretend otherwise?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx

The latest result, from Oct. 9-15, is based on 2,723 likely voters

i lol'ed
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:41:23 PM
Right.. this is just a bit funny to me. So.. the Polls are bullshit if the favor obama and there are all kinds of flaws.
OR
Fact checkers that found out Ryan was lying, all bullshit, unless they found out Biden was lying about Libya... then theyre spot on
Or
3333 quoted Bill Mahers tweets after the first debate, not so much after this one.
Inconsistancy is their MO


Whatever tool.   The polls were wrong earlier because they over sampled democrats by ridiculous margins.   DO YOU IDIOT LIBS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?  
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: MCWAY on October 18, 2012, 12:42:43 PM
You didn`t check anything.  How do I know?  You still believe the earth is 6000 years old and have yet to check on that.

Wrong again, TA. As usual, when one of your stupid kneepadding quips get destroyed, you start bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with the topic.

Just as I showed the oversampling of Dems in certain polls (as did 333386), I also showed how the same folks who claimed Obama won the second debate gave Romney the edge on four of five major topics, on which the debate was based.

But, thanks for playing, crybaby.

Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
It's simple. Liberals like you think that Obama is only going to hike taxes on those making over 250K. Anyone who had a decent breakfast knows that's never the case. Once the rich take their money and run (and rich liberals do that as well as their conservative counterparts), guess who's next (Hint: Obama's extension of the Bush tax cuts on the middle class were only to last FOR A YEAR).

Plus, if taxes go up, businesses DON'T HIRE; guess who that affects.

If taxes go up, those with jobs get their hours reduced; guess who that affects.

If taxes go up, businesses start hiring part-time workers, to get out of paying for healthcare benefits; guess who that affects.

See all you lefties who think Obama is going to give you stuff, by taking it from someone else, are in for rude awakenings when realities hit.

That's why he needs to get gone NOW (as in Nov. 6....OK Jan 2013)!!


I'm independent and was prob voting rep., till your guy opened his mouth. I'm sorry he doesn't seem sincere, doesn't have a plan,flip flops,wants to give u a flat 25k write off(I'd rather have my current write offs). Wants to hand you a voucher for Medicare(I'd rather have it the way it is since my comp. and I have already paid a couple 100 grand into it, so it's not a "hand out" considering I haven't collected 1 penny from it), I'm pro choice (her body her choice) he's not, plus 5th grade adding and subtracting tells you he can't do all he says( you can't lower taxes and lower deficet and pay for all his proposed other plans, it's a strait lie and it will come out of people making a few hundred thousand a year and less no way it comes out of rich people's pocket like his). I'm sorry I can't vote for a tax increase for myself,so I'm left with Obama. I don't care he's black I care he's gonna save me money...
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:44:37 PM
i lol'ed

I was wrong on that and thought it included the one day of post polling, but it had the VP debate you clowns through Biden crushed Ryan in fully baked in. 

Obama didnt do shit in the 2nd debate.  its all downhill from here. 
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: POB on October 18, 2012, 12:47:08 PM
I swear this is like grown people arguing whether Santa Claus can beat up the Easter Bunny.
Depending on whores politicians, is like depending on a deranged killer with a gun to save you from a burning building, that he set on fire.

Clause FTW
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
As opposed to arguing which mans' glutes in a glittery thong prancing around a stage to the cat calls of other men is better?   
Look, you know and I know that in a capitalist society gone corrupt and mad, that the politicians don't work for "us" anymore. So arguing this mess is futile. The only way to solve it is simple in statement, hard in reality---American communities need to demand that (maybe violently) our elected officials get back to working for us, and not for corporations---who have run this country into the ground.
Obama, Romney, or whoever ain't doing shit, won't do shit, and you know it. And if they really wanted to change the game, there is far too much money at stake, and they would be "dealt with". We all know it. Yet you all want to play This pretend game that it matters. I think most of you and America are scared of the truth. And want to believe, because the truth is far more sinister.
It's the system, the beast. You are an attorney, so you know how systems work---cog, wheel...

  
 
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 12:53:11 PM
I was wrong on that and thought it included the one day of post polling, but it had the VP debate you clowns through Biden crushed Ryan in fully baked in. 

Obama didnt do shit in the 2nd debate.  its all downhill from here. 
Were you gonna admit that before i Lol'ed at it?
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 12:54:41 PM
Look, you know and I know that in a capitalist society gone corrupt and mad, that the politicians don't work for "us" anymore. So arguing this mess is futile. The only way to solve it is simple in statement, hard in reality---American communities need to demand that (maybe violently) our elected officials get back to working for us, and not for corporations---who have run this country into the ground.
Obama, Romney, or whoever ain't doing shit, won't do shit, and you know it. And if they really wanted to change the game, there is far too much money at stake, and they would be "dealt with". We all know it. Yet you all want to play This pretend game that it matters. I think most of you and America are scared of the truth. And want to believe, because the truth is far more sinister.
It's the system, the beast. You are an attorney, so you know how systems work---cog, wheel...

  
 

STFU KNEEPADER...ROMNEY 2012.. LANDSLIDE COMING
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 12:56:24 PM
Were you gonna admit that before i Lol'ed at it?

When TA pointed it out i did.  I thought one day of the rolling average had it in there. 

But obama didnt win the second debate to where he is going to move the needle. 

He is losing voters as they realize he didnt say one freaking thing he wants to do in a second term. 
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Grape Ape on October 18, 2012, 01:04:02 PM
Why do you think Obama can't bounce from 2nd but your guy can skyrocket from 1st? I would say 3rd debate could push and Obama would still win

Becasue the first debate was a widely acknowleged wipeout, the second was two guys trading punches.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2012, 01:04:19 PM
STFU KNEEPADER...ROMNEY 2012.. LANDSLIDE COMING
Lol

a used car salesman vs a used Yacht salesman...Obama will ask about your kids, wife, comment on your watch...  Romney will tell you that the yacht you are looking at was Euro Playboy's favorite, and then he'll slip up and say don't use a blacklight in the bedroom.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:07:05 PM
Lol

a used car salesman vs a used Yacht salesman...Obama will ask about your kids, wife, comment on your watch...  Romney will tell you that the yacht you are looking at was Euro Playboy's favorite, and then he'll slip up and say don't use a blacklight in the bedroom.


Remember - people love a winner.  Romney is a winner. 

Obama will steal your watch by the way.    :P
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
And you think he is getting a bounce from the second debate?   Even PPP said today obama is not getting a bounce from the 2nd debate.  
I guess I was wrong if the second debate was not in the rolling average, but the VP debate which you though biden crushed ryan is and did it o anything at all?  Yes!!!!   It brought O-THUG down and Romney up.  
When TA pointed it out i did.  I thought one day of the rolling average had it in there.  
But obama didnt win the second debate to where he is going to move the needle.  
He is losing voters as they realize he didnt say one freaking thing he wants to do in a second term.  
did you really...you can do better "i guess? ....if it wasnt included?....."
fuckin weak
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 01:24:26 PM

Whatever tool.   The polls were wrong earlier because they over sampled democrats by ridiculous margins.   DO YOU IDIOT LIBS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?  

Oh but they're fixed now huh?
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:27:26 PM
Romney was only recently informed there are countries outside of the United States. Most of his voters are still unaware of this today even.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:27:33 PM
Oh but they're fixed now huh?


Just stop moron.  Remember how bad you got ass handed to you on the walker exit poll thing that was showing Obama up by 7?  

How is that working out?  
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
Romney was only recently informed there are countries outside of the United States. Most of his voters are still unaware of this today even.

He lived in France for awhile moron. 

Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:30:54 PM
He lived in France for awhile moron. 



He wasn't aware of this though. He was explained this recently when they told him about other countries' existence. They had a hard time explaining to him where he had lived for a while.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2012, 01:32:19 PM
He wasn't aware of this though. He was explained this recently when they told him about other countries' existence. They had a hard time explaining to him where he had lived for a while.


Obama - JD Harvard - brilliant

Romney - JD/MBA Harvard - dumb


That is the argument you leftists are making? 
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Option D on October 18, 2012, 01:32:56 PM

Just stop moron.  Remember how bad you got ass handed to you on the walker exit poll thing that was showing Obama up by 7?  

How is that working out?  
So let me get this clear.

When Obama is good in the polls,.. the polls suck
When Obama is bad in the bolls... the polls are spot on


Is that what youre telling me?
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:40:24 PM

Obama - JD Harvard - brilliant

Romney - JD/MBA Harvard - dumb


That is the argument you leftists are making? 

Why are you calling my a leftist, I am a Nazi so I am a syncretist.
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: LATS on October 18, 2012, 03:19:39 PM
  I believe it was clinton who said Obama was in over his head.. I also believe it was Carville that said democrats have over estimated obamas intellect .. Obama is far from brilliant.. And TA I agree with many things you say but to say Obama is brilliant on foreign affairs is way stretching..
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: Moen on October 18, 2012, 03:35:27 PM
My dear friend LATS, how is everything going on PM?
Title: Re: Real Clear Politics Poll
Post by: LATS on October 18, 2012, 03:46:15 PM
  Truthfully.. Been off all boards for a while.. Had a couple of surgerys and have not trained for it just healing up.. But when I see a political debate I have to sometimes come out of retirement  ;)