833 gm heart? Jesus. Piana's was only 670, and 500+ is considered the danger zone.
833 gm heart? Jesus. Piana's was only 670, and 500+ is considered the danger zone.
It’s odd , a lot of what they said are also the markers they look for while diagnosing heart disease yet they didn’t specifically say it. This guy was in need of a new heart. Goes to show we need to take these genetic disorders mor serious. ::)
he had a near 5kg liver? no wonder it looked like he was about to give birth
With all these bodybuilders having heart issues, how can anyone even deny the link between heart issues and chronic use of illegal substances? Sure, genetics plays a role, but come on, the writing is on the wall. If Dallas never became a professional bodybuilder, there would obviously been a reduced chance of him dying of heart issues at such a young age. Heck, I know people who are 50+ who have similar conditions and with a healthy lifestyle and proper monitoring from a doctor, they are still plugging away. How can such an early death not be linked solely to steroids? ??? ???
How much did his gh abuse contribute to that?
It would be interesting to see the heart weights, etc..... of other steroid using athletes too. One would figure that a healthy proportion of them that share the same genetic factors, etc.... but wind up living perfectly long lives. It is probably more the quest for size that is doing it. Thinking about it in my head, most of the heart related deaths I recall of young steroid users were in the really huge guys #275 plus.
Shawn Ray (among many others, I'm sure) cautioned McCarver against getting too big, too fast--Dallas was approx. 330 lbs. at only 26 years of age. And Shawn caught all kinds of shit for being a negative hater.Shawn caught it because people don't like to hear the truth, they want live in a world where no one talks about the consequences for one's actions.
10lbs liver???I know, that is crazy.
Shawn caught it because people don't like to hear the truth, they want live in a world where no one talks about the consequences for one's actions.
I know, that is crazy.
Did people overlook that he had thyroid cancer at the time of autopsy.
They also found "papillary thyroid carcinoma."
So, dumb question from a non-doctor: Can GH promote the growth of all kinds of cells? Even mutated cancer cells? Could GH speed up the development of cancer cells, or increase the likelihood of mutated cells multiplying?
So, dumb question from a non-doctor: Can GH promote the growth of all kinds of cells? Even mutated cancer cells? Could GH speed up the development of cancer cells, or increase the likelihood of mutated cells multiplying?
Lots of folks have papillary thyroid cancer. It's a slow-growing and generally "weak" form of cancer, which almost never claims any lives, and it frequently goes undetected. (Only to show up on autopsies later on.) Dallas could probably have lived with it for 10 more years before removing it.
What stands out for me is that the tox screen flagged zero for PEDs apart from tren? ??? Nothing else? And since when do they test for Boldenone in a human autopsy? Did I miss a meeting or something?
Not really surprised at the organ growth, the kid was probably on GH his entire (brutally short) adult life... :P
Boldenone (Equipoise) has long been considered a widely abused steroid by the DEA here in the States, so I'm not surprised that it's on there. I'm not sure how Florida handles it, but steroid testing is usually at the discretion of the examiner. I'm sure they ordered the full ride once they heard the circumstances. Can't explain the rest.
Dallas McCarver, IFBB professional bodybuilder, died after an unwitnessed cardiac event contributed to by of combination of coronary atherosclerosis (a buildup of plaque in the arteries) and an enlarged left ventricle (a thickening of the heart muscle that causes it to work harder). McCarver had a family history of cardiovascular disease (genetic predisposition) including both hypertension and atherosclerosis.
Dallas was found on the floor in his living room with food scattered around his body shortly after midnight on August 22nd, 2017. Paramedics were called and he arrived at the hospital in full cardiac arrest. He was pronounced dead at 1:03 A.M. An autopsy was performed the following day.
Noted at the time of autopsy was an enlarged liver and kidneys, nephrosclerosis (a hardened liver), heavy lungs, and a papillary thyroid carcinoma. Prior medical history includes cholesterol issues (high LDL/ low HDL), elevated aminotransferase levels, a chronic cough and shortness of breath, and childhood asthma.
His testosterone levels were within normal range at the time of death, despite having an elevated epitestosterone level (indicating testosterone replacement, though not abuse per se). Trenbolone metabolites were also present. Screening for additional steroids was negative, although he tested positive for caffeine and marijuana metabolites (neither of which are mentioned as contributing factors in his death). No other recreational drugs or narcotics were present. (Did not use Narcs and Party Drugs) because remember he was prepping for a show and atleast Nubain Metabolites should have been detected
Also noted (but neither tested for, nor listed as a contributing factor in Dallas’ death) was a prior history of hGH and insulin use.
Hypertrophy of organs 3-4 times normal size-
1. HEART- 833gms
2. Lungs 617 and 620gms
3. Liver- 4600gms
4. Kidneys -456 and 503
First time in any Autopsy report they have mentioned that
CONTRIBUTING CONDITIONS: CHRONIC USE OF EXOGENOUS STEROID AND NON-STEROID HORMONES
Source: https://medium.com/@anthonyroberts/dallas-mccarver-autopsy-5ec5f959163d
Lots of folks have papillary thyroid cancer. It's a slow-growing and generally "weak" form of cancer, which almost never claims any lives, and it frequently goes undetected. (Only to show up on autopsies later on.) Dallas could probably have lived with it for 10 more years before removing it.
She lists his risk factors and calls them "synergistic contributors". to his death.
She also lists seven studies to support her findings. Thorough examination.
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Modern bodybuilding is dying a slow death. (no pun) Steroids have been around a long time, this shit didn't happen until the big 3 came in play.
What "non steroid hormones" was he using?
So he had a widow maker heart attack? Interesting how they mentioned steroids as a cause of death with only Tren in his system. You could actually make a defense that steroids had nothing to do with it since A. they don't know the amount of Tren he was taking and B. they don't know how long he was taking it.
What they didn't mention and didn't test for.
IGF
GH
Insulin
Insane amounts of those 3 with extreme over eating is what killed this kid. The plaque build up could have been there even if he wasn't a bodybuilder with the family history but even so he would have died soon enough with all the other organ problems.
Why in God's name didn't this kid get at least a normal check up???? Even a chest X-Ray would have shown the enlarged heart. I'm willing to bet with his history of asthma he knew he had an enlarged heart.
Modern bodybuilding is dying a slow death. (no pun) Steroids have been around a long time, this shit didn't happen until the big 3 came in play.
Insulin and GH may be what's meant by that.
She calls it an "unwitnessed cardiac event" which is why she listed all the other factors. You can't make a defense that steroids had nothing to do with it when she sites LVH as a major contributing factor and goes on to list seven steroid studies to support her findings. The damage was done as it relates to his left ventricle with severe concentric left ventricular hypertrophy.
I doubt it since she would be making an assumption. If it isn't on the list she can't assume.
Sure you can. Doesn't matter how many studies she sites. He had 1 steroid in his system. What are her finding, that the use of tren caused all this? Your average first time user of any steroid would have the same odds then.
This is like saying the alcoholic who died from cirrhosis of the liver was not an alcoholic because there was none in his system when he died. She's not saying he died from steroids she saying they and other factors contributed to his death.
This is like saying the alcoholic who died from cirrhosis of the liver was not an alcoholic because there was none in his system when he died. She's not saying he died from steroids she saying they and other factors contributed to his death. Steroids are directly linked to LVH. Personally I think BMI plays a huge roll too but his weight was not mentioned.And weight is also an issue. The heart can't tell the difference between 330 pounds of muscle and sinew/organs, skeleton vs 330 pounds of fat/sinew/organs/skeleton.
Sure you can. Doesn't matter how many studies she sites. He had 1 steroid in his system. What are her finding, that the use of tren caused all this? Your average first time user of any steroid would have the same odds then.
Fair point.... but I can't see anything else that does turn up on the list? I'm no expert, so would the tren alone be able to give him the ratio of t to epi-t of 130? (where over 4.0 is flagged)....
And weight is also an issue. The heart can't tell the difference between 330 pounds of muscle and sinew/organs, skeleton vs 330 pounds of fat/sinew/organs/skeleton.
Epic denial. ::)
So, basically, the abuse of steroids, growth hormone, insulin, over eating, being overweight, crappy eating, and a family history, contributed to his death.
And weight is also an issue. The heart can't tell the difference between 330 pounds of muscle and sinew/organs, skeleton vs 330 pounds of fat/sinew/organs/skeleton.
You obviously do not know what today's top guys are doing. If steroids killed this easily Pete Grymkowski would have died 20 times over by now.
YES :(
Autopsy pics ?(https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/images/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7468-1385565319-12%5B1%5D.gif)
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:-X
Expecting a flurry of fresh donations now the report is out. Dig deep GetBig...
$57,231 of $150.0k
Raised by 504 people in 3 months
https://www.gofundme.com/dallas-mccarver/donate (https://www.gofundme.com/dallas-mccarver/donate)
The Dallas McCarver Foundation is a non-profit organization that raises money for underprivileged children. The Dallas McCarver Foundation’s ethos is “No Child Should Go Without!” - We are coming together to provide food, clothing, toiletries, books, and school supplies to those children who otherwise would go without. There are families struggling simply to make ends meet all over this country, and it’s our goal in Dallas’ honor to make sure that those children and families receive the support they desperately need! Dallas had a passion for giving back and he loved children, so with The Dallas McCarver Foundation we will fulfill his desire to give back and to those little ones he loved so much! Help us change children’s lives all over the country and maybe even one day… The World! We Love You Dallas!
This is like saying the alcoholic who died from cirrhosis of the liver was not an alcoholic because there was none in his system when he died. She's not saying he died from steroids she saying they and other factors contributed to his death. Steroids are directly linked to LVH. Personally I think BMI plays a huge roll too but his weight was not mentioned.
You obviously do not know what today's top guys are doing. If steroids killed this easily Pete Grymkowski would have died 20 times over by now.
Now we know why people said he had a big heartBest post ever
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So, basically, the abuse of steroids, growth hormone, insulin, over eating, being overweight, crappy eating, and a family history, contributed to his death.
basically the guy said 'fuk it'... and slingshoted his own ass straight to hell.... dude was a tard.
So he had a widow maker heart attack? Interesting how they mentioned steroids as a cause of death with only Tren in his system. You could actually make a defense that steroids had nothing to do with it since A. they don't know the amount of Tren he was taking and B. they don't know how long he was taking it.
What they didn't mention and didn't test for.
IGF
GH
Insulin
Insane amounts of those 3 with extreme over eating is what killed this kid. The plaque build up could have been
there even if he wasn't a bodybuilder with the family history but even so he would have died soon enough with all the other organ problems.
Why in God's name didn't this kid get at least a normal check up???? Even a chest X-Ray would have shown the enlarged heart. I'm willing to bet with his history of asthma he knew he had an enlarged heart.
Modern bodybuilding is dying a slow death. (no pun) Steroids have been around a long time, this shit didn't happen until the big 3 came in play.
Now we know why people said he had a big heart
So he had a widow maker heart attack? Interesting how they mentioned steroids as a cause of death with only Tren in his system. You could actually make a defense that steroids had nothing to do with it since A. they don't know the amount of Tren he was taking and B. they don't know how long he was taking it.
What they didn't mention and didn't test for.
IGF
GH
Insulin
Insane amounts of those 3 with extreme over eating is what killed this kid. The plaque build up could have been there even if he wasn't a bodybuilder with the family history but even so he would have died soon enough with all the other organ problems.
Why in God's name didn't this kid get at least a normal check up???? Even a chest X-Ray would have shown the enlarged heart. I'm willing to bet with his history of asthma he knew he had an enlarged heart.
Modern bodybuilding is dying a slow death. (no pun) Steroids have been around a long time, this shit didn't happen until the big 3 came in play.
So, basically, the abuse of steroids, growth hormone, insulin, over eating, being overweight, crappy eating, and a family history, contributed to his death.
i would have preferred them to delve deeper in the enlarged liver and kidneys, and identify its exact pathology(https://media.giphy.com/media/s3Zug4SSIPt6M/giphy.gif)
enlarged anything can mean anything from anything
If he was an asian turd like you he would have died sooner i betssshhh...adults are typing..
No way he wasn’t informed of his labs. Wasn’t he in the hospital after the bronchial incident at recent show. Comprehensive blood work, chest X-ray, even echo would have been likely. Marched ahead anyway because of demons or whatever reasons. At some level, there’s a shade of suicidal in it.
No way he wasn’t informed of his labs. Wasn’t he in the hospital after the bronchial incident at recent show. Comprehensive blood work, chest X-ray, even echo would have been likely. Marched ahead anyway because of demons or whatever reasons. At some level, there’s a shade of suicidal in it.
at 300lb on stage there is 30lbs of enlarged organs
If he was an asian turd like you he would have died sooner i bet
I can't believe his heart/kidneys/liver were that enlarged. Especially how young he was. I can only imagine how much HGH he must have been blasting. Either that or he was extremely sensitive to it.
The average medical examiner is unqualified to perform an autopsy on a bodybuilder.
We need special bodybuilding coroners who understand bodybuilders and the drugs.
I hope Jason Genova cleans up his act. :-\ :-\
I doubt it since she would be making an assumption. If it isn't on the list she can't assume.
this is what my sister said, who is a GP/ family doctor:
Interesting. Lots of severe pathology. Incorrect medical terminology in the journalists report (mixing up liver and kidney...) sounds like steroids may have played a role, may have been some natural predisposition too...
Although the autopsy seems to relate it more to the steroids than the GH I think?
I had a quick look and I can’t see clear links with enlarged liver. That can happen with heart failure, but not sure he had that. Seems like the cardiac hypertrophy probably due to GH and also causing raised cholesterol which probably led to coronary atherosclerosis.
All those directly link to steroids not GH. Might want to ask your sister to review some retrospective studies.
Here is one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1768197/
that study only mentions hgh in passing.
Exactly and ties AAS to LVH and detrimental lipid changes which can lead to atherosclerosis.
http://www.endocrinologyadvisor.com/cardiovascular-and-metabolic-disorders/steroid-use-linked-to-cardiovascular-adverse-events/article/664517/
HGH is not as well studied, however, does not directly effect lipid panels.
I didn't know Dave had a defibrillator. This is what i like about him he is very open about his own issues.
i dont meant to nitpick and im not a user so hardly interesting to me, but that study didnt mention HGH.
at the end of the day you only have to see how many dead bodybuilders there are piled up, how many blew out their kidneys or liver or died after a show due to diuretics. I believe Jay said he even nearly had to quit the night show one olympia.
i believe guys like ronnie or lee priest used tiny amounts to get to pro level and then upped the dose and got to top 10. the guys like dallas, or others who used boat loads of gear for years wound up dead.
would be interesting to hear centofpanies' view on all this given his sudden turn towards being a health freak.
You're on the right track but you derail quickly. Pro's know how to flood their bodies with the proper ratio of nutrients at the right time. Get it wrong and thing go awry. This is why there is poor showings at bodybuilding contests. Newer Pro's are just starting to understand their bodies and what proteins, fats and carbs can do at the right times.
That autopsy showed nothing. You're conecting dots thats aren't there. So he had a bad lipid profile. He probably took in too many bad fats. Now to you and me bad fats can be disasterous but to him his body responded and he grew like a weed...AT A PRICE!
I know guys tha can eat taco's and pizza for pre contest. Supieor genetics and knowing one's body is key.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right so he was perfectly healthy, a fine 26 year old male specimin, just happened to get dizzy one time and then mysteriously had a heart attack a few months later. ::)
just like rich, perfectly normal, healthy guy... and I liked rich, he used to post here, liked his videos, like his discussion of the correct dick to ball ratio. a worthy getbig subject. but im just guessing that his supplements probably didnt help him live a long life.
Fallsview is doing a poor job at trolling. It's best to ignore him.
As you can see, no one responded to his first post in this thread, so he had to respond to someone else in order to elicit an reaction. :D :D
honestly when guys like lee priest say they got to pro level on minimal doeses but training and diet and world class genetics, I believe that. then they up the dose and get to top 10. whereas someone with shit genetics like bostin has lmost no response to huge amounts. when i did a few basic cycles I gained strength, but not that much size. lost 80% of the gains off the cycle as well.
The average medical examiner is unqualified to perform an autopsy on a bodybuilder.
We need special bodybuilding coroners who understand bodybuilders and the drugs.
honestly when guys like lee priest say they got to pro level on minimal doeses but training and diet and world class genetics, I believe that. then they up the dose and get to top 10. whereas someone with shit genetics like bostin has lmost no response to huge amounts. when i did a few basic cycles I gained strength, but not that much size. lost 80% of the gains off the cycle as well.
Maybe thats the reason he had no steroids in his system, maybe he was cleaning up his act but it was too little too late.
some guys actually grow on 10mg of anavar or stanozolol a day – some guys look great, even dosing their 10mg eod - u r not one of those guys... and comprehend as much. way to not be a fuking retard.
He got a warning in March when he was taken out of stage and, among other things had a really hard time breathing .
WoooSHHHHHHHH
Dude - did you see the tox screen? I've never seen one so specific to bodybuilding - so someone must have asked for it - if not the coroner then...?
(https://s19.postimg.org/6ym8ukicz/Dm_C_Tox.jpg)
Impressive on the steroid end but what about insulin, gh, and DNP.
He had severe cardiomyopathy. When your heart is that enlarged, you have a greater chance of sudden cardiac death. That is likely what happened here. He did have moderate to severe coronary artery disease, but did not die from that. Sounds like he went into a fatal arrhythmia, and that was it.
right so he was perfectly healthy, a fine 26 year old male specimin, just happened to get dizzy one time and then mysteriously had a heart attack a few months later. ::)
just like rich, perfectly normal, healthy guy... and I liked rich, he used to post here, liked his videos, like his discussion of the correct dick to ball ratio. a worthy getbig subject. but im just guessing that his supplements probably didnt help him live a long life.
In the end, its best to avoid all types of drugs--the risk is just too high.
Its quite clear, as well as sad, that Dallas died from steroids, GH, insulin, bad eating, being overweights, and whatever else he was sticking in his body. I bet all this could have been avoided if he would have stopped the bodybuilding lifestyle and just led a normal, clean life.
Bodybuilding takes another one!
If he was an asian turd like you he would have died sooner i bet
Man aged 26 dies, all internal organs enlarged ........ genetics.
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHH we are forever living in denial
You're a moron. Is that what you go by nowadays, SPF11 not naturalwonder? Ha....you make me laugh because of your stupidity. And to think you were even considered to be in the Mensa Of GetBig.
How many gimmicks do you run when people get sick of the SPF11 one?
STAY POSTIIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DNP - good call - I've not seen anyone mention that yet. Insulin and GH I think the thread has confirmed were not tested, but you're the first person to mention DNP so far.... But it's so far off my radar I have no idea if it can contribute to cardiac arrest or not - Walter White might have an opinion on this...?
SMH at people using this and this is an older study. :-\
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3550200/
Over the last decade, from 2001 to 2010, there have been 12 deaths related to exposure to DNP. These fatalities have been linked to deliberate overdose [4, 22, 69], accidental toxicity associated with use by bodybuilders or for weight loss [21, 28, 72–75] and accidental occupational exposure [33]. This resurgence in reported fatalities may reflect the increased availability of DNP over the internet, marketed particularly towards bodybuilders.
Preceding death, the patient is often profoundly hyperthermic and there may be associated methaemoglobinaemia. Death is usually secondary to massive cardiovascular collapse. There have been frequent reports of a rapid (within minutes) onset of generalised rigidity after death [6, 11]. This profound muscle rigidity has also been seen to happen before death making mechanical ventilation very difficult [21]. This early onset of generalised rigidity after death has been attributed to the release of calcium from the cytosol due to the depletion of ATP [22].
His autopsy basically shows what will happen to your insides when you run test 7-10grams a week and GH at 36IU a day :-X
Move along dingus.Once again fallsview being very very negative. Perhaps he should lead more by example. As far as the drugs are concerned, you are absolutely right. It's beyond me why anyone would take steroids this day in age being able to easily see, via the internet, what it does to people! Additionally, it seems reasonable to assume that steroids have destroyed many lives that we didn't hear about because they simply weren't big enough stars to show up on our youtube feeds. I also would question how many of these so called "light users" who are 30 today are going to die at 45 because of the ensuing health problems resulting from their use? In my opinion, probably a lot. As far as I'm concerned, the only people who should do steroids are athletes with enough talent to potentially make millions of dollars. For the rest of us, I think it's a bad decision.
Its obvious and unfortunate why Dallas died--abuse of illegal substances mixed with other factors.
Now, run along, adults are talking.
Once again fallsview being very very negative. Perhaps he should lead more by example. As far as the drugs are concerned, you are absolutely right. It's beyond me why anyone would take steroids this day in age being able to easily see, via the internet, what it does to people! Additionally, it seems reasonable to assume that steroids have destroyed many lives that we didn't hear about because they simply weren't big enough stars to show up on our youtube feeds. I also would question how many of these so called "light users" who are 30 today are going to die at 45 because of the ensuing health problems resulting from their use? In my opinion, probably a lot. As far as I'm concerned, the only people who should do steroids are athletes with enough talent to potentially make millions of dollars. For the rest of us, I think it's a bad decision.
Non steroid hormones are those without a Sterol backbone, which does include HGH and Insulin (which are made of polypeptides).
also his creatinine level was skyrocket high values, hence kidney disease
1205mg/l equals 120,5mg/DL
normal higher values men 1,2mg/dl
protein intake muscle waste protein turnover high BP high BW atherosclerois plaque buildup (etc etc)
all the tools are there for death on the long run, although he died of young age this took a LONG history of abuse
Trust your expertise on the big 3 being bigger culprits than run of the mill steroids. Ties in with why the 25 year olds are looking like 45 and finishing their career at 30, while prior generations hit their peak in 30s and 40s. But are autopsies a perfect science? Is it really plausible that he only had tren or EQ in system at that stage of contest prep. Do we really know he wasn’t doing too much of LOTS all at once.
Autopsies are not perfect science but labs results usually are spot on.
So what ARE they doing?... give us a recap.
Something totally absent from Piana's autopsy.
Unreal. They seemed to just disappear.
His ex wife was the puppet master of 5% and something tells me she kept them from coroner who requested them.
Thing is he was open about all the drugs he took in his videos and even some of them have been taken down.
It is true though that you can now take minimal amounts of steroids and get HUGE! Imagine how safe it will be not having to partake in large amounts of those very dangerous life threatening steroids that grow your organs many times there normal size. ::) ::)
There has to be copies somewhere but if she is POA then no one can get them.
that sounds a little.... fishy
There has to be copies somewhere but if she is POA then no one can get them.
Possibly smells fish too.
CK levels that high are normal for the exercise that he did.
I thought I was going to die :-
thats cuz ur supposed to die, silly.... let it happen.
No
True I am for my parents and when my mom passed (rip) I had full control of her medical records.
Have you seen pics of his ex.. ???
Asians have long life expectancy and heart disease typically don’t run in their genetics compared to other s
Thing is, Dallas wasn't on "minimal" amounts of anything. 550ng/ml!
And we don't know how much Tren he was on, either. Could have also been grams.
it looks like everyone is blind to this fact..
the topic starter and journalist clearly MISREAD the T values
everyone assumed they were right when they said NORMAL values....
nobody bothered to research the actual values..
Here it is once again:
Epitest ratio (T/E) should be 1:1 and maximum 6:1, his is 130, that to me seems to indicate severe use of T, which coincides with the
550ng/ML (read ML not DL) normal level in males max. 12ng/ml
means he was DOPED out on T ! he'd have had 55000ng/DL
imagine this is active half life only..
based on this u can calculate what he was actually shooting, correlating with the massive LVH, and the atherosclerosis, and the HIGH LDL low HDL,and basically everything else
it looks like everyone is blind to this fact..
Here it is once again:
Epitest ratio (T/E) should be 1:1 and maximum 6:1, his is 130, that to me seems to indicate severe use of T, which coincides with the
550ng/ML (read ML not DL) normal level in males max. 12ng/ml
means he was DOPED out on T ! he'd have had 55000ng/DL
it looks like everyone is blind to this fact..
the topic starter and journalist clearly MISREAD the T values
everyone assumed they were right when they said NORMAL values....
nobody bothered to research the actual values..
Here it is once again:
Epitest ratio (T/E) should be 1:1 and maximum 6:1, his is 130, that to me seems to indicate severe use of T, which coincides with the
550ng/ML (read ML not DL) normal level in males max. 12ng/ml
means he was DOPED out on T ! he'd have had 55000ng/DL
imagine this is active half life only..
based on this u can calculate what he was actually shooting, correlating with the massive LVH, and the atherosclerosis, and the HIGH LDL low HDL,and basically everything else
anthonyroberts realised his mistake and went from "T levels within normal range" to " T levels very high"
thats getbig for ya
Clogged arteries at that age? Damn.
That's what happened with Mike Matarazzo. He went through pounds of red meat and jars of peanut butter on a weekly basis.
That's what happened with Mike Matarazzo. He went through pounds of red meat and jars of peanut butter on a weekly basis.
Dallas was megadosing. Kept it simple, though... just test and tren. (GH, Insulin, IGF-1, and other peptides aside.)
By the way, how much of his GUT was just his enlarged organs? Liver, kidneys, heart... and surely his intestines and stomach, as well. :-X
I doubt diet plays much of a role
It was from all the shit he injected like a dumbass
Good question. This could give us a clue into the possible causes of Palumboism.
Dallas was megadosing. Kept it simple, though... just test and tren. (GH, Insulin, IGF-1, and other peptides aside.)
By the way, how much of his GUT was just his enlarged organs? Liver, kidneys, heart... and surely his intestines and stomach, as well. :-X
Well, diet does play a role in terms of pushing that much food through your system, especially the protein. May not matter much whether it is steak versus lean chicken. Big time genetic predisposition played a part. But the “elephant in the room” question is how long would he have lived without the AAS, growth and insulin, and food? Palumbo didn’t go there at all. We seem to be debating the subtleties of diet vs. steroid vs. growth, but what about the un-subtlety of top level bodybuilding vs. not.
he was always a greedy fucker even before bodybuilding..
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he was always a greedy fucker even before bodybuilding..
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/08/thumbnail/tahuty3a.jpg)
He would be 600-700 pounds without drugs....
he told me on Muscular Development forums that he used to eat two bargain buckets of KFC every night.
he also told me he tried insulin once, I told him he shouldnt really be telling people that bearing in mind he was sponsored, I got banned???
Are yu going to blame KFC now
he told me on Muscular Development forums that he used to eat two bargain buckets of KFC every night.
he also told me he tried insulin once, I told him he shouldnt really be telling people that bearing in mind he was sponsored, I got banned???
How much does a "bargain bucket" cost?
lets try and find out how much he was taking
Testosterone: let's assume this (550ng/ml) is total T (specifics not indicated on report)
keep in mind normal high T values in young men are: 10mg/day T production
Blood volume: normal average weighing adult (72kg, 160pounds) has approx. 4,7Liters or 1,24gallon or 5quarts
regularly, blood volume is calculated on +- 68ml/kg basis
so in his case: 290ish pounds or 130kg BW multiplied by 68ml = roughly 8liters of blood (downsized)
i'm mentioning this difference because someone who weighs less than him would have yielded even higher blood results(!) for the same amount of injected mgs
unless anti aromatase was used, part of his T injections would have been converted (and ongoing) to Estrogen
also DHT conversion
for the sake of positive bias, we won't try to calculate that
Also, test esters have different half lives, so in order for us to be positively biased as to how much he jected, we'll take one of the more common longer versions: TE
(U'd need to inject more Prop compared to Enanth if u want to achieve an equal T concentration in blood)
Example:
100mg TE after 10 days: 50mg still in blood
100mg TP after 10 days: +-12mg still in blood
theoretically, this means that if we want to achieve 50mg of active T after 10 days with T prop, we'd have to inject 400mg
so u see, calculating his cycle as positively biased as possible (as low as possible) would have us go for minimal injections of TE
Also, don't forget a 100mg inject of TE is actually only about 70mg of T, the remainder 30mg being ester weight
pos bias wont account for that
SO: according to dose response studies in endogenous T deficient men, T enanthate 50mg/wk resulted in approx. 306ng/dl (3,06ng/ml) blood concentrations (5month study)
(blood analysis occurred at 7 day intervals)
600mg TE/wk = 2307ng/dl (23ng/ml)
(dose response curve: 12 times more T injected yet only 7 times more T in blood concentration, lets call this factor potency)
lets assume potency is halved every 500mg (again pos bias)
going from 23ng/ml to 550ng/ml would mean shooting 24 times 50mg (1200mg) to obtain a clean result
however, including potency factor this would mean approx 5gr of T/ 7days
NOW: add in all the other factors and you arrive at a hypothetical 8+ gr/ T
I'd speculate even higher, 10+ gr/wk (TE) and i'm being very cautious (TP even higher!)
i mean, we all knew this, its just nice to have the numbers adding up..
its not cheap I can tell you that...
Looks like it costs around $16hes always lived on the bank of mom and dad....
If he ate 2 per night, that's $224 on KFC alone per week ($896 per month)
read the detective report next to the lab analysis
he was informed but shrugged it off
I think you're being quite conservative. I've seen 10gms of test get a score of 14,000ng/DL...
Can not find it. Can you qoute please?
Serious question: how can this autopsy report be public? Is this normal in usa?
Interesting question, seeing how much organ enlargement is possible in the monsters is shocking. It's amazing how far out of the outlier ranges he was -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22182983 .
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22182984 .
According to the Almighty słin and gh have added about 20 kg extra to on stage weight
So that like 45 pounds and id say bout half lf that went to the gut and the other half to the legs, back and delta
Thier arms and chests aremt any bigger than the 70s 80s guys
Looks like it costs around $16
If he ate 2 per night, that's $224 on KFC alone per week ($896 per month)
he told me on Muscular Development forums that he used to eat two bargain buckets of KFC every night.
he also told me he tried insulin once, I told him he shouldnt really be telling people that bearing in mind he was sponsored, I got banned???
DJ - I've got a random question for you - apologies if you've already answered it elsewhere.... do you get any blood work done when you're on a cycle? Or track your blood pressure, perhaps?
Never did while on cycle but i did last year when i came off completelyamazing, thats what joon did when he came off.
Worked with an endrocologist and he gave me clomid and supported my usage of aromosin
I fully recovered and my natural test levels were on tbe high end of normal
amazing, thats what joon did when he came off.
amazing, thats what joon did when he came off.
I am
it is impossible to know for sure, too many variables and unknowns
but the figures i wrote are the bare minimum
Don't know the date of this photo, but it may have been near the end:
it looks like everyone is blind to this fact..
the topic starter and journalist clearly MISREAD the T values
everyone assumed they were right when they said NORMAL values....
nobody bothered to research the actual values..
Here it is once again:
Epitest ratio (T/E) should be 1:1 and maximum 6:1, his is 130, that to me seems to indicate severe use of T, which coincides with the
550ng/ML (read ML not DL) normal level in males max. 12ng/ml
means he was DOPED out on T ! he'd have had 55000ng/DL
imagine this is active half life only..
based on this u can calculate what he was actually shooting, correlating with the massive LVH, and the atherosclerosis, and the HIGH LDL low HDL,and basically everything else
Basically Dallas Mcarver was on 10 g of Test a week !!! :o
Basically Dallas Mcarver was on 10 g of Test a week !!! :o
Pure de bullshit @ 10 grams test
Let us know when the IFBB gives a two shit about the state of Pro Bodybuilding.....This is a great point. They obviously know whats going on. At what point will they step in and say enough is enough? I fully believe everyone is responsible for what they do to their own bodies, but should the IFBB step in and at least try to make changes? Clearly nobody likes the way the current physiques look.
This is a great point. They obviously know whats going on. At what point will they step in and say enough is enough? I fully believe everyone is responsible for what they do to their own bodies, but should the IFBB step in and at least try to make changes? Clearly nobody likes the way the current physiques look.
They are kind of indirectly doing this (somewhat) by putting all the focus on Physique and Classic. But it’s hard for them to do it in a truly sincere manner because the passion for size (and the infrastructure to make size happen) is built into every aspect of bodybuilding.Physique and classic for the masses , turtle guts for the schmos
Physique and classic for the masses , turtle guts for the schmos
Has anyone here known anybody that actually used 10 grams??
As I said, it's fucking bullshitso the autopsy report is either wrong has been falsified?
Has anyone here known anybody that actually used 10 grams??
They are kind of indirectly doing this (somewhat) by putting all the focus on Physique and Classic. But it’s hard for them to do it in a truly sincere manner because the passion for size (and the infrastructure to make size happen) is built into every aspect of bodybuilding.Its a half hearted attempt. The IFBB will not change unless they are required, either by loss of revenue or by a higher power or both.
so the autopsy report is either wrong has been falsified?
And stick arms for yourself18.5 at the moment honey...
Has anyone here known anybody that actually used 10 grams??
Billy Mimnaugh, famous internet powerlifter, and creator of "option d" on Getbig ran this for a while till he got into some trouble with T-3 and his heart -
"Blood pressure is perfect.
Cycle
5,000 test
1200 tren
1200 masterone
1000 deca
1000 anadrol
Proviron 200 a day
Arimidex-50 a day
T3-100 micrograms a day
Synthroid-150 micrograms a day
50 nolvadex
Also injecting melantan 2.
Will be adding anavar and winny as well as letrozole"
www.instagram.com/bmimnaugh/?hl=en .
It's wrong
Probably put all anabolic markers just on test when he was taking tren and dbol also
P.s. Dbol is effective as a test replacement
That's why the 70s dudes could take deca dbol and function well
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Dallas should have switched to a vegan diet.I wonder if he had come off everything and switched his diet, if his organs would have come down in size?
I wonder if he had come off everything and switched his diet, if his organs would have come down in size?
I wonder if he had come off everything and switched his diet, if his organs would have come down in size?
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Many bodybuilders believe that the top guys are justified in taking steroids, etc. Well, those wannabes have even more motivation to overcome what nature gave them re physiques.
Our own DJ is a stellar example. Look at how he posts here as an expert re drug protocols! This surely is the blind trying to lead the blind.
Seriously WTF is this!!!!!!
He has asked me advise so I think a lot of what he is posting is trolling and hoping for 100 pages. Hopefully Chaos will be in a bad mood one day and delete the thread. :D
Rofl, I always get a kick out of posts like this from you. As a person who has in a sense seen it all, it's fascinating to me that you still find yourself disgusted at something new from time to time. ;D
Lulz at basshole taking every word i say so seriouslulz at basshole a 75 year old man owning you in an arm growing contest...
yeah his BP is fine..
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHcoOqyD6Q4/?hl=en&taken-by=bmimnaugh (https://www.instagram.com/p/BHcoOqyD6Q4/?hl=en&taken-by=bmimnaugh)
In all seriousness I don't often get a shock but I'm at a loss for words at what I'm looking at. :-X
^^^ I I I I I I I
Nothing like the expertise of 170lb internet bodybuilders/doctors....credit where credits due...at least you post pics though...
Who is this person?:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZop_n9Bnfg/?hl=en&taken-by=bmimnaugh
He's lean, but...that can't be healthy.
Nothing like the expertise of 170lb internet bodybuilders/doctors....credit where credits due...at least you post pics though...
Justin Compton got be around what Dallas uses also
The upcoming generations seem to push the envelope further and much more massive use than a jay cutler of yesteryears at the same time jay was using than the previous pro bbers
I don't normally have childish digs on people I don't know, but this is uncanny.
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More is better
You should use 5 plus grams of test a wk and up all your dosages
Walk around massive
Never ever ever wanna weigh more than a buck 80 RIPPED
Are those varicose veins? And shouldn't they be treated?yep, he needs to prioritise....
Has anyone here known anybody that actually used 10 grams??
I think cswole was doing 1 gram of Test a day. He might have done more at some points.
One.gram is not outrageous
10 grams is
Accordling to all the shit i read bout test dose of pros 3 grams is max
3 grams of test plus 1 gram of an anabolic plus orals
You're an idiot.
Those are gymrat doses. Gymrats don't develop 900g hearts or 4000g livers.
One.gram is not outrageous
10 grams is
Accordling to all the shit i read bout test dose of pros 3 grams is max
3 grams of test plus 1 gram of an anabolic plus orals
Ranch Warren or Raunch Warren?
Who is this person?:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZop_n9Bnfg/?hl=en&taken-by=bmimnaugh
He's lean, but...that can't be healthy.
Funnily enough those closest to him at time of death (Flex Lewis, Josh Lenartowicz, Matt Jansen, Chad Nichols) have all remained quiet
I don't normally have childish digs on people I don't know, but this is uncanny.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=639997.0;attach=750552;image)(https://aboucheamused.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pewpampanga-stuffedfrogs.jpg?w=540)
Ha, lover of wrestling, powerlifting, and bodybuilding, Billy is a legend. He's gotten older, so the posts have slowed down, but he was sort of like the Steve Michalik of powerlifting for many years. I've never seen full raw numbers for him but he'd be in the 1850 - 1900 range I'd bet, and his suitted numbers were a best total in the #2300 range. All the while, he'd chase a bodybuilding trophy here and there. Every few years would come with a bump in the steroids, and it was fun to watch.
He's one of the few that I believe whole heartedly because he just doesn't care, and has offered up far more embarrassing things over the years. To be fair, he was well put together guy years ago -
Early 2000's -
(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/Mimnaugh2.jpg).
(http://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/10608111_658072407663914_1062189195_n.jpg).
2007 -
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_DAN0805.jpg).
I think he was around #3-4 grams here.
2016 -
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13658534_614877788688950_1087835375_n.jpg).
1- Josh needed to learn CPR.
2- What about Nick Trigili? He was 'close'.
To be fair, he'd have needed the resuscitation skills of Baron Victor Von Frankenstein to bring the kid back... he was blue when he got to him... :-\
So he goes from being what appears to be a handsome man with a great physique to a man who appears to potentially have had a stroke [we can rule out Down syndrome based on the older photos], and whose physique is in an advanced stage of Palumboism?
That's kind of sad. Was it years of powerlifting injuries that damaged his physique, but he wanted to keep on bodybuilding for some reason? Did no one give him an objective assessment of his physique and tell him that he does not look that good in bodybuilding terms? The former powerlifting numbers are impressive, both raw and suited. But he should maybe not be on a bodybuilding stage. Good conditioning though - although in some ways, that makes matters worse. Because even in good conditioning, he can't look good anymore.
I seem to recall that user name somewhere.
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One.gram is not outrageous
10 grams is
Accordling to all the shit i read bout test dose of pros 3 grams is max
3 grams of test plus 1 gram of an anabolic plus orals
Yeah, but 170 is healthy. All my health markers are great. This is the best I'll ever be, and I accept that - health has to come first.
:D
That's a pretty jacked version of the monster.... I apologise if this seems in terrible taste to anyone, but I did this ages ago and this seems like an opportune moment for a repost - if anyone is offended, take it as a tribute....
(https://s19.postimg.org/6o54nypoz/Dallas_B_W_crp.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.org/i0hq5tb9f/Dallas_Von_Frankenstein_B_W_crp.jpg)
The standard dose of just test for National level competitors is 6-7 grams. Thats just test alone. Throw in all the other anabolic, and these guys are pushing 10 grams per week. This is a common dose, yes some might use a bit less, and some more, but 6-7 grams of test is where most are at. These are guys that haven't gotten there pro card yet. The main culprit for the massive size increases once in the pro ranks is much heavier insulin and GH dosages, and legit IGF-1.
So he goes from being what appears to be a handsome man with a great physique to a man who appears to potentially have had a stroke [we can rule out Down syndrome based on the older photos], and whose physique is in an advanced stage of Palumboism?
That's kind of sad. Was it years of powerlifting injuries that damaged his physique, but he wanted to keep on bodybuilding for some reason? Did no one give him an objective assessment of his physique and tell him that he does not look that good in bodybuilding terms? The former powerlifting numbers are impressive, both raw and suited. But he should maybe not be on a bodybuilding stage. Good conditioning though - although in some ways, that makes matters worse. Because even in good conditioning, he can't look good anymore.
I seem to recall that user name somewhere.
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The standard dose of just test for National level competitors is 6-7 grams. Thats just test alone. Throw in all the other anabolic, and these guys are pushing 10 grams per week. This is a common dose, yes some might use a bit less, and some more, but 6-7 grams of test is where most are at. These are guys that haven't gotten there pro card yet. The main culprit for the massive size increases once in the pro ranks is much heavier insulin and GH dosages, and legit IGF-1.
Who is this person? Is he a pro?
If you wont grow on 500mgs test then you aint growing on 7 grams either.
stop spreading bullshit.
Injecting 7gms test a week alone and you would soon run out of places to shoot as the stuff wouldn't be dissipating fast enough.
Try it for a week.
What about the alleged Test 400 blends? We have one in Canada by Newport Labs - although there are many locations named "Newport", such as one of the towns in Aquidneck Island, Rhode Island (the biggest island in Rhode Island), but I'm pretty sure this Newport is Canadian - it is T400, but do you think it is real?
Technically, 2x1cc shots daily would get you to 5.6 grams of total test in a week.
Do you think those high dose tests actually contain the amount of test claimed? Or is it just a lie for labs to sell more gear?
High concentration gear usually causes almost crippling post injection pain
High concentration gear usually causes almost crippling post injection painthis
So we solved the puzzle finally......big gut is caused by big organs?
Btw....how is it possible he had enlarged lungs?
Lung capacity goes up with height and aerobic exercise
For a natural athlete, yes. But surely this autopsy of a 21st Century synthetic athlete is adding to the evidential trail that massive amounts of GH cause all of the internal organs to grow? Which is kind of what we all presumed from the beginning. I mean, if you think about the mechanism/pathway it utilises, bigger EVERYTHING seems to make sense, no? (... ... Taffin waits for VonBilderass to school him...) ;D
It always seemed fairly obvious that he was a heavy androgen user going by his mutated faceredcon1 has a new guy theyre pushing with even worse roidface
this
Matt, if you think 10gms is anywhere near achievable then try and inject that amount of oil into your body and see how soon you run out of places to shoot.
just use a base oil if you dont want to use steroids
its 50ml of oil if you take 200mgs a ml as your guide
Just wondering if some guys have achieved it based on posts I have read over the years. I believe Nasser originated the 10 grams of test per week as a base idea. Whether or not that is in any way common is another matter. With pros doing whatever it takes to win, I would be sure at least some have attempted it.
I'm off the mind that 500mg of test + 200mg deca and some dbol should make for great gains. I think some obviously respond better to others - and better to mega-dosing.
Just wondering if some guys have achieved it based on posts I have read over the years. I believe Nasser originated the 10 grams of test per week as a base idea. Whether or not that is in any way common is another matter. With pros doing whatever it takes to win, I would be sure at least some have attempted it.
I'm off the mind that 500mg of test + 200mg deca and some dbol should make for great gains. I think some obviously respond better to others - and better to mega-dosing.
Matt refer to this video
Who in their fucking right mind uses 10 grams of test, these guys deserve to die for stupidity alone
I would bet around 3 grams or 5 max
Broscience at its best
Yeah, but 170 is healthy. All my health markers are great. This is the best I'll ever be, and I accept that - health has to come first. I might be having a fourth baby soon.You gotta stop lying about your height. You re short as fuck. Don't balonie me with I was leaning back for the shot it makes no diff. You see how clearly short you are here
You gotta stop lying about your height. You re short as fuck. Don't balonie me with I was leaning back for the shot it makes no diff. You see how clearly short you are here
Has anyone here known anybody that actually used 10 grams??I read everything Paul borrseon wrote he was said to help Yates. A lot and others he advocated 3 week blast 10-15 grams a week. It on Google just Google it it's pretty interesting. I know yes for a fact people do that but I don't know how common it is you figure if you ran 10grams for a month it would take a while to get out of your system probably the whole month you was off. in my opinion it would be better to just run about 5 grams you start burning a lot of calories past that can lose weight that's what people have told me that tried it they started losing weight
Has anyone here known anybody that actually used 10 grams??
redcon1 has a new guy theyre pushing with even worse roidface
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_4a7vndE5-w/hqdefault.jpg)
Jordan Peters
Only late 20's or 30
Not a healthy individual
He's around 5"6 & 245ish on stage
Likes very large amounts of insulin
& Gear.
For a natural athlete, yes. But surely this autopsy of a 21st Century synthetic athlete is adding to the evidential trail that massive amounts of GH cause all of the internal organs to grow? Which is kind of what we all presumed from the beginning. I mean, if you think about the mechanism/pathway it utilises, bigger EVERYTHING seems to make sense, no? (... ... Taffin waits for VonBilderass to school him...) ;D
redcon1 has a new guy theyre pushing with even worse roidface
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this
Matt, if you think 10gms is anywhere near achievable then try and inject that amount of oil into your body and see how soon you run out of places to shoot.
just use a base oil if you dont want to use steroids
its 50ml of oil if you take 200mgs a ml as your guide
Serious Q: how do they administer all those mgs? 25 diffirent injection spots?
thats my question, it doesn't take long for injection sites to build up with hard tissue and to get sore...
I remember onetimehard saying that he knew pros that didn't even count mgs, they just kept shooting until they ran out of sites.
Looking like a typical young 26 year old here - surprised nobody ever suggested otherwise...?
@3:00
(https://s19.postimg.org/rz4klhszn/dallas_2037.jpg)
;D
I watched this vid today when I was looking for autopsy vids on Youtube and had to pause the vid at 3 min to look at his face.
Looking like a typical young 26 year old here - surprised nobody ever suggested otherwise...?
@3:00
(https://s19.postimg.org/rz4klhszn/dallas_2037.jpg)
Serious Q: how do they administer all those mgs? 25 diffirent injection spots?
And if you want real and the truth? Listen here and listen close. You can tell me I’m bullshitting, but your head will only be up your own ass. A close, close friend (and mine) of Dallas said the last cycle he saw Matt give Dallas was 23 grams. 23,000mg a week total. Take it in, let it sit. That’s what REALLY goes on behind the scenes.
That's
1, Not a healthy looking face
2, Or a face of a 26yr old
3, Kind of looks like mask / movie
Make up face.
maybe one of the photoshop guys could make his face green and put "SSSSSMMMMMOOOKIN!" on the pic.
That's
1, Not a healthy looking face
2, Or a face of a 26yr old
3, Kind of looks like mask / movie
Make up face.
Someone posted this on professionalmuscle
Rumor yes, but who knows. Doesn't seem possible, not due to lack of injection sites but physical and mental tolerability.
How the fuck do they afford running that? I mean, that's what I question first before being able to physically tolerate it.
How the fuck do they afford running that? I mean, that's what I question first before being able to physically tolerate it.
Dallas McCarver, IFBB professional bodybuilder, died after an unwitnessed cardiac event contributed to by of combination of coronary atherosclerosis (a buildup of plaque in the arteries) and an enlarged left ventricle (a thickening of the heart muscle that causes it to work harder). McCarver had a family history of cardiovascular disease (genetic predisposition) including both hypertension and atherosclerosis.
Dallas was found on the floor in his living room with food scattered around his body shortly after midnight on August 22nd, 2017. Paramedics were called and he arrived at the hospital in full cardiac arrest. He was pronounced dead at 1:03 A.M. An autopsy was performed the following day.
Noted at the time of autopsy was an enlarged liver and kidneys, nephrosclerosis (a hardened liver), heavy lungs, and a papillary thyroid carcinoma. Prior medical history includes cholesterol issues (high LDL/ low HDL), elevated aminotransferase levels, a chronic cough and shortness of breath, and childhood asthma.
His testosterone levels were within normal range at the time of death, despite having an elevated epitestosterone level (indicating testosterone replacement, though not abuse per se). Trenbolone metabolites were also present. Screening for additional steroids was negative, although he tested positive for caffeine and marijuana metabolites (neither of which are mentioned as contributing factors in his death). No other recreational drugs or narcotics were present. (Did not use Narcs and Party Drugs) because remember he was prepping for a show and atleast Nubain Metabolites should have been detected
Also noted (but neither tested for, nor listed as a contributing factor in Dallas’ death) was a prior history of hGH and insulin use.
Hypertrophy of organs 3-4 times normal size-
1. HEART- 833gms
2. Lungs 617 and 620gms
3. Liver- 4600gms
4. Kidneys -456 and 503
First time in any Autopsy report they have mentioned that
CONTRIBUTING CONDITIONS: CHRONIC USE OF EXOGENOUS STEROID AND NON-STEROID HORMONES
Source: https://medium.com/@anthonyroberts/dallas-mccarver-autopsy-5ec5f959163d
everywhere u can imagine... from the fuking traps on down, lol – stick it wherever there is enough meat.
If you wont grow on 500mgs test then you aint growing on 7 grams either.5ml x250mg/ml per injection 6times per week not impossible at all...stupid yes but not impossible. If you get to much hard tissue you just push the needle trough it
stop spreading bullshit.
Injecting 7gms test a week alone and you would soon run out of places to shoot as the stuff wouldn't be dissipating fast enough.
Try it for a week.
They typically get the steroids for free, in exchange for giving referrals, sometimes they move enough product themselves to get theirs "for free". The GH is bit harder to afford. Someone said Dallas was on 36iu so it's abit of money.
Here's an example of pros repping for a UG steroid lab, completely out in the open
https://www.instagram.com/lwpgainz2/
This is typical these days.
5ml x250mg/ml per injection 6times per week not impossible at all...stupid yes but not impossible. If you get to much hard tissue you just push the needle trough it
They typically get the steroids for free, in exchange for giving referrals, sometimes they move enough product themselves to get theirs "for free". The GH is bit harder to afford. Someone said Dallas was on 36iu so it's abit of money.
Here's an example of pros repping for a UG steroid lab, completely out in the open
https://www.instagram.com/lwpgainz2/
This is typical these days.
crazy prices...
http://lwpstore.com/pharmacy/ (http://lwpstore.com/pharmacy/)
crazy prices...
http://lwpstore.com/pharmacy/ (http://lwpstore.com/pharmacy/)
Yeah prices are waaaay too high. I know a place that sells 10 ml bottles of test 300mg for $20. How the hell is anyone making money that way? On a very rare occasion if I ever get asked by someone where they can get stuff I should tell them go fuck themselves but I just say in this day and age if you can't find them on your own then you are just being lazy.I used to be able to get 10ml vials of test back in the early 90s for £3, thats 2 grams of test, that was from source, they sold at £30
:-\ .
Also what type of fool buys a t-shirt advertising a steroid factory? -
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaVJM-qltfn/?taken-by=lwpgainz2 .
if boston pushed 16g
then why couldnt dallas push 20 or more
it correlates with the facts
Yeah prices are waaaay too high. I know a place that sells 10 ml bottles of test 300mg for $20. How the hell is anyone making money that way? On a very rare occasion if I ever get asked by someone where they can get stuff I should tell them go fuck themselves but I just say in this day and age if you can't find them on your own then you are just being lazy.it only cost 6 to make
crazy prices...
http://lwpstore.com/pharmacy/ (http://lwpstore.com/pharmacy/)
I used to be able to get 10ml vials of test back in the early 90s for £3, thats 2 grams of test, that was from source, they sold at £30
The good ole days when you could walk into a pharmacy and for $80 could get a legit bottles of Anadrol. We were pissed at how expensive it was. Today a bottle goes for round $3000.00.
redcon1 has a new guy theyre pushing with even worse roidface
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_4a7vndE5-w/hqdefault.jpg)
Some damn interesting comments here about a subject which I know nothing about.
The most interesting comment that I think I can understand was submitted bt CALFZILLA as follows .....
"The average medical examiner is unqualified to perform an autopsy on a bodybuilder. We need special bodybuilding coroners who understand bodybuilders and the drugs."
Is there any truth to this?
Yeah prices are waaaay too high. I know a place that sells 10 ml bottles of test 300mg for $20. How the hell is anyone making money that way? On a very rare occasion if I ever get asked by someone where they can get stuff I should tell them go fuck themselves but I just say in this day and age if you can't find them on your own then you are just being lazy.
Some damn interesting comments here about a subject which I know nothing about.
The most interesting comment that I think I can understand was submitted bt CALFZILLA as follows .....
"The average medical examiner is unqualified to perform an autopsy on a bodybuilder. We need special bodybuilding coroners who understand bodybuilders and the drugs."
Is there any truth to this?
They are probably selling a lot though from the IG advertising. Then the pro reps can get cases of the stuff free, either to use or sell to guys at the gym.I don't see how you can argue with Larry wheels the best powerlifter in the world for Christ sakes. I would imagine they or one of there friends make it it's easy very cheap super easy you can make a hundred grams of test for 90$ tren about 6$ a gram . Dbol 3$ a gram
Larry Wheels said "why order some crappy UG from Russia when you can go with the best domestic". As if this isn't a UG brewed from Chinese UG raws in some guy's garage. The one admining the IG page is some dyslexic retard, doesn't exactly instill confidence. I would guess they buy a lot and one of them make it
Why risk being associated with this? I mean Efferding and Flex Wheeler, what morons.
You can’t be serious? Use your brain, “bodybuilding coroners” oh brother
perfect way to end up with an abscessno have you? why would you need to do that? Lots of places to poke
Have you ever injected the same place three or four times in a week?
no have you? why would you need to do that? Lots of places to poke
Was thinking it was funny how Dallas trainers and friends have not said anything of his autopsy.
However with the 55,000 Testosterone reading I guess they cannot claim he was on 500mg Test 200Deca and his death is from genetic predisposition.
not when you are putting in 40ml of oil....it would soon come around..
How the fuck do they afford running that? I mean, that's what I question first before being able to physically tolerate it.That scumbag Singerman financed all his drugs.
That scumbag Singerman financed all his drugs.
Would love to inject my right uppercut into yo chin b!tch
Why are you being mean to him? ??? Saying mean things to him.
Yeah, but 170 is healthy. All my health markers are great. This is the best I'll ever be, and I accept that - health has to come first. I might be having a fourth baby soon.
not when you are putting in 40ml of oil....it would soon come around..well i have done tren and test prop plus boldenone and test enanthate 6 days a week for 8 weeks.. You dont have to shoot at the same spot in glutes shoulders etc... You only get abcess with dirty needles and gear even if you shooot trough hard tissue..
well i have done tren and test prop plus boldenone and test enanthate 6 days a week for 8 weeks.. You dont have to shoot at the same spot in glutes shoulders etc... You only get abcess with dirty needles and gear even if you shooot trough hard tissue..the oil and gear isnt even dissipating before you have whacked in another, the muscle tissue is going to be saturated with oil.
he had a massive heart attack
his heart arteries were clogged and his Left ventricle was already not pumping properly due to the hypertrophic cardiomyopathy
how old was he? 23
unreal
She calls it an "unwitnessed cardiac event" which is why she listed all the other factors. You can't make a defense that steroids had nothing to do with it when she sites LVH as a major contributing factor and goes on to list seven steroid studies to support her findings. The damage was done as it relates to his left ventricle with severe concentric left ventricular hypertrophy.
his heart arteries were all clogged due to years of steroid abuse casuing a very low HDL cholesterol- this is a risk factor for heart artery blockage
It kinda makes you wonder what the tipping point was.... I mean exactly what was it about his physical presentation that morning -I like to think he was laughing...
presumably added to by the simple fact he was eating - that caused the fatal infarction.... can it even be assigned to that last mouthful before he dropped....?
he was always a greedy fucker even before bodybuilding..
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I like to think he was laughing...