What a fucken baby.
Crying over a movie TRAILER???
He reminds me of this guy:
didnt know you had a youtubechannelI have two, the Star wars-reaction video is on my second youtubechannel.
Koran War in Denmark: last Sunday, 2 locals in Copenhagen were playing Koran handball ( :D) & muslims get upset (as allways, every thing offend them )
cops get involved & so far 23 "refugees" got arrested ............riots continues ............
Nothin' in media about that .................
Yeah, instead we get articles in the media regarding people crying about Star Wars, society of today!
Is that guy for real? He’s putting us on right?
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Is that guy for real? He’s putting us on right?
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The age of emotional incontinence.
I cried in the theater when I watched Episode 8. The difference is, I was crying because of how much it sucked.
Star Wars? That name no longer has any meaning to me.
I didn't want to start another thread on this.
So...
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker | D23 Special Look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n1T3HxHd7Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n1T3HxHd7Y)
They lost me with The Force Awakens being a remake of A New Hope, ridiculous PC nonsense, and Ray being a 'Mary Sue" character.
They got me back with Rogue One.
Probably lost me forever with the sheer awfulness of The Last Jedi.
And I haven't even seen Solo.
Can't bring myself to do so.
But anyway...
They lost me with The Force Awakens being a remake of A New Hope, ridiculous PC nonsense, and Ray being a 'Mary Sue" character.
They got me back with Rogue One.
Probably lost me forever with the sheer awfulness of The Last Jedi.
And I haven't even seen Solo.
Can't bring myself to do so.
But anyway...
Disney pisses all over the legacy characters and say "let the past die". They attack the fans for complaining about how characters like Luke and Han Solo were treated.
....but then they use nostalgia from the original trilogy to sell their shitty new movie. Now they are going to resurrect the Emperor just to piss all over him too.
Fuck no.
I liked Rogue One, maybe because everyone died.
Very emotional trailer!
Disney pisses all over the legacy characters and say "let the past die". They attack the fans for complaining about how characters like Luke and Han Solo were treated.
....but then they use nostalgia from the original trilogy to sell their shitty new movie. Now they are going to resurrect the Emperor just to piss all over him too.
Fuck no.
Star Wars 9 - Trailer and Emotional Reactions...
Rey as a Shith-Lord, great
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Did those 2 characters survive the single reactor ignition. their deaths were never shown. R1 is the best of the bunch.
Well said. Well said.
And don’t forget we are called misogynists as well because we rightly complain that Rey’s character is a “Mary Sue” like no other.
She is J.J. Abrams all knowing, all, seeing, and all doing superstar.
Lord only knows what ridiculous ability she’ll show in this new film. ::)
FUCK sake I ve just read that the Emperor will come back and redeme himselfHe only comes back as a kind of non physical entity who will possess Rey for some time at the end. He will not appear in person.
Though he is not coming back to redeem himself.Also Heard that he goes into Kylo, but this leak seems to be already outdated. In the art book for ROS, there is a picture of Snokes ring. If you look closely, cloaked Rey wears that same ring on her left hand when she opens the double wielded lightsaber. Seems like Palpatine possessed Snoke (which they will pull out of their ass in ROS) and will possess Rey.
Spoilers claim that he may have been in Snoke.
The Knights of Ren return from wild space/Unknown Regions of the galaxy.
One of them may be possessed by Palpatine's ghost/spirit.
I have not heard that he goes into Rey.
I have heard that he goes into Kylo.
Also Heard that he goes into Kylo, but this leak seems to be already outdated. In the art book for ROS, there is a picture of Snokes ring. If you look closely, cloaked Rey wears that same ring on her left hand when she opens the double wielded lightsaber. Seems like Palpatine possessed Snoke (which they will pull out of their ass in ROS) and will possess Rey.
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Like Jar Jar in Episode II, I'm thinking her part in Episode IX is going to be greatly reduced. ;)
With any luck maRey Sue will turn sith, Gaylo will turn good and kill her (becoming a real Skywalker hence the title), and everyone can forget these horrible shit movies ever existed.
I can't wait to see more of this brave and cunning warrior.
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I can't wait to see more of this brave and cunning warrior.
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Darth Vader actor was a bodybuilder
The Future is Female
The Force is Female
Diversity is Our Strength
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To this day, I still can't believe that scene... ::) ???
They wanted to make a mockery of the Legendary Male Jedi Knight/Master
Darth Vader actor was a bodybuilder
They wanted to make a mockery of the Legendary Male Jedi Knight/Master
A spoiler report.
If you want to read, use your mouse to drag the space and reveal the information.
Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (Spoilers)
>Takes place one year after THE LAST JEDI.
>The plot revolves around a race to find something. This “MacGuffin” is said to be controversial yet delightful. The “MacGuffin” may change during the movie, going from one thing which leads to something else, and that it ends up revealing the big secret of the movie. It is supposed to be something related to C3PO's old memory that got erased at the end of Episode III.
>The First Order has conquered most of the galaxy.
>Kylo Ren is still torn between the dark side and the light and still harbors feelings for Rey.
>Hux has been replaced by Allegiant General Pryde (Richard E. Grant) and has been leaking information to the Resistance in hopes that they kill Kylo and allow him to retake control.
>Hux is still here.
> (Kylo Ren) was in a room like in the rebel Blockade runner style, that bright white. And he's looking down as a box or container opens to reveal the charred Vader helmet.
>The Knights of Ren return from an expedition to the Unknown Regions to inform Kylo about a secret arsenal of superweapons built by Palpatine.
>Sith Stormtroopers (Red armor) have been hidden away in the unknown regions. It is apparently hellish in those areas. The universe is “not entirely stable.” The area is dangerous and full of peril. Since Emperor Palpatine’s death the fleet has been dodging gravity wells and surviving in the wilderness of space in the unknown regions waiting to be found and to finish their mission.
>The Sith Stormtroopers, which belong to Palpatine, have been hidden away inside a massive fleet, probably as a final act so upon his resurrection he could dominate the galaxy once more.
>The Death Star II wasn’t Palpatine’s last project. These Star Destroyers are equipped with “planet destroying weapons” like the one on the Death Star.
>Kylo and the Knights of Ren begin searching for the Wayfinder, a device required to locate the arsenal.
>The Resistance learns about this and deploys Rey, Finn, Poe, Chewbacca, BB-8, C-3P0 and R2-D2 to retrieve the Wayfinder first.
>Rose is now a high-ranking Resistance commander answering directly to General Leia and stays behind to coordinate them from the base.
>The Wayfinder’s coordinates are in C-3P0’s old memory unit in an abandoned Imperial blockade in a jungle world, where the heroes befriend the warrior Jannah (Naomie Ackie) and her people.
>After retrieving it, the heroes to a decommissioned droid factory in a snow world to unlock it, where they are ambushed by the First Order and rescued by bounty hunter Zorii Bliss (Keri Russell) and her droid.
>During the battle, the memory unit of a combat droid is uploaded into C-3P0, causing him to develop an aggressive personality and take Chewie’s bowcaster for himself. (Red Eyes)
>Meanwhile, Kylo meets an oracle who directs him to the Wayfinder’s location in a desert world. Rey and her friends also learn about it from C-3P0’s memories.
>Rey and Kylo meet and fight in the desert world, while the Knights of Ren battle Finn, Poe, Chewie and the droids.
>Rey and Kylo still share a Force bond, which causes them to experience “Force flashes” of past events as they fight.
>Kylo and the Knights of Ren retrieve the Wayfinder and return to the ruins of the Death Star in the jungle world to unlock the arsenal’s location.
>The Resistance follows him, but are ambushed by the First Order and nearly defeated before a local alien, Klaud, helps them escape.
>Finn recruits Jannah and her people as reinforcements to battle the First Order, while Rey confronts Kylo.
>Rey and Kylo learn that the Wayfinder actually contains Palpatine’s spirit. The Knights of Ren may be loyal to him and manipulated Kylo into freeing him. Rumor.
>Palpatine possesses one of the knights (Matt Smith) and announces his plan to seize control of the First Order and use the hidden fleet/arsenal to subjugate the galaxy. He also reveals that he was behind Snoke.
>Luke Skywalker and Han Solo appear as Force ghosts and encourage Kylo to accept the light. Kylo then join forces with Rey to stop Palpatine.
>Rey and Kylo defeat Palpatine, but he then possesses Kylo. He urges Rey to kill him, and she reluctantly does. Palpatine is unable to possess Rey and is destroyed for the last time.
>The First Order is defeated and Palpatine’s arsenal is destroyed.
>Rey mourns Kylo.
>The film is rumored to end with a sunset.
>So about Lando, he doesn't do much, he's just there with the heroes. Knights of Ren also have lots of scene where they are just there.
>The final battle will take place on the jungle planet, the hidden Sith Fleet will appear there to fight.
>The remains of the second Death Star will make the final battle epic and Rey and Kylo will use force flash fights against Palpatine .
As someone who read EU books, this new trilogy makes me feel like a Caucasian father finding out his 10/10 blonde hair blue eyed daughter got knocked up by a somalian.
Des, go to your PMs. I want you to read something.
I got it.
Give me a couple of days.
Truthfully, I don't really want to get sucked back into this.
I feel like Michael Corleone in The Godfather Part III.
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I saw IT Part 2 today and it opened with a gay kiss at the fair.....hahaha wtf.
I want to read that too
Darth Vader actor was a bodybuilder
Star Wars is like DC. The animation is better than most of the movies.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE2SUG4as5Y)
If you remove Rogue 1, Clone Wars is the last gem in the universe.
Agreed. Got to admit though to an interest in The Mandalorian, Jon Favreau's series for Disney.
The word is very positive so far.
The Sizzle Reel from the Star Wars Celebration 30th Anniversary in Chicago was strong.
A cast with the great Carl Weathers and Nick Nolte only adds to its potential.
I agree. I wouldn't call myself a Favreau fan. I am indifferent about him.
But this show does have great potential. Disney is using it as their main selling point to push their new streaming service in November.
Okay, this is the second spoiler report for Star Wars - Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker.
This one has much of the same information as the one from this Jason guy at MakingStarWars. (See above)
However, there are some major differences as well.
While I personally don't like either report, and think we are headed for another really bad film, the fan base seems to have more concerns with this second spoiler report.
I have put those concerns at the bottom, under the actual report.
All the commentary within the report is coming from the guy who typed up the report. It is not me commenting. I'm just putting up the reports.
Again, use mouse to scroll over to see text.
Star Wars - Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (Second Spoiler Report)
• It has been reiterated to me that we will indeed be getting young Luke and Leia flashbacks in TROS. One in particular appears to be the opening of the movie no less. We begin the action by seeing one of, if not the final training lesson between Luke and Leia. Leia is giving up her Jedi training due to the fact that she's pregnant with a son. My source on this mentioned a fight, so I believe that we may be getting Leia and Luke in a lightsaber duel toward the beginning of the film.
• Some details: After the opening crawl we pan from space. The camera moves towards a planet covered in trees. We see two lightsabers, one green and one blue, in the respective hands of these two warriors. The two combatants are dueling one another. The two Jedi are donning helmets with visors covering their faces. The two Jedi break from their duel and remove their helmets to reveal Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa Solo. It might be the final training lesson between Luke and Leia. Luke Skywalker realizes something has changed with his sister, Leia Organa Solo. He questions her and she confides in Luke that's she's going to be a mother. This is the moment Luke Skywalker realizes Ben Solo is coming and the galaxy will never be the same again.
• We then hear a voice-over shouting "Master Leia!" It is the voice of Rey which ends Leia's thoughts/flashback and we are thrust into the post-Luke Skywalker era, far from General Leia Organa's training with her brother all those years ago. Now, we are with Leia and Rey amongst the trees. Rey trains to become the Jedi that will face-off against the evil new supreme leader that was once the child Leia carried during her training with Luke Skywalker.
• Leia appears to have taken up the mantel of Jedi mentor to Rey in the wake of Luke's passing. This will likely coincide with the scene from the D23 First Look where Rey throws her lightsaber at a training remote and cuts down a tree.
• Early on in the film, we catch up with Kylo's story where he is slaughtering people with the purpose of tracking down one of the film's "MacGuffins", a device known as the "Wayfinder". I'm told that the clip of Kylo body slamming someone into the floor of a forest bathed in red light as seen in the film’s teaser is from this scene. I'm also told that this planet is called Exogol.
• The slug Klaud is brought into the Resistance by Chewbacca, and he helps the Resistance (what he does to help them is unknown).
• We also catch up with Maz Kanata.
• Kylo obtains the location of the "Wayfinder" from "The Oracle", or it gives it to him right there.
• Kylo finds it to contain coordinates to a point in the Unknown Regions.
• The "Wayfinder" that Kylo is given once belonged to his grandfather, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader.
• Using the coordinates found within the "Wayfinder" device, Kylo arrives in the Unknown Regions.
• Here, Kylo encounters Emperor Palpatine. How Emperor Palpatine is still alive and how he ended up in the Unknown Regions is still a mystery to me that I hope to learn more about in the next few months (Note: Daisy Ridley recently said in an interview that it's explained in the film), but my source on this tells me that this is indeed Emperor Palpatine in the flesh.
• Kylo and Emperor Palpatine's conversation apparently centers around ordering Kylo to find Rey and bring her to the Emperor with the goal of turning her to the dark side. Note: It's not lost on me that this part of the story feels very Return of the Jedi inspired, but we'll just crack on and see how this all pans out.
• My source specifically mentioned that Emperor Palpatine is very old and decrepit at this point, possibly on the verge of death. A little bit of Googling reveals that Emperor Palpatine is thought to have been born around 84 BBY making him in the neighborhood of 113 years old by the events taking place in The Rise of Skywalker.
• Emperor Palpatine’s goal in luring Kylo to him and converting Rey to darkness is more or less to have Rey and Kylo inherit his "new Empire" and for them to rule it together.
• In order to facilitate bringing about this "new Empire", Emperor Palpatine has spent his 30 years of Post Original Trilogy creating a fleet of "Death Star Destroyers" (Note: I don't know if this is their actual name or not. Personally, I hope not, it's bit on the nose) which appear to be exactly what they sound like, Star Destroyers with Death Star tech mounted onto them, giving them the capability to destroy a planet. (Note: Apparently once this particular technology was unleashed 30 some odd years ago, that Pandora's box can't be shut again).
• According to my source, these Star Destroyers make up the "Sith Fleet" that house the new red Sith Stormtroopers that were showcased at SDCC in July. Note: I wrote this prior to the First Look being shown and the fleet has since been confirmed. It's comprised of Imperial Star Destroyers hiding in the Unknown Regions and we see what appears to be their planet destroying capabilities during the sizzle reel.
• Going back to the rest of the Resistance, we catch up with Finn and Poe returning to the jungle planet depicted in some of the behind the scenes images shown at Celebration Chicago. The duo has been in contact with an informant from within the First Order. The mole has told Finn and Poe about Kylo coming into possession of the "Wayfinder". Note: It's unclear to me if anyone in the Resistance exactly understands what the "Wayfinder" is or where it leads. They just want to find it.
• Poe and Finn tell Leia about this and she sends Rey, Chewbacca, C-3PO, R2-D2 and BB-8 to accompany them on the mission. In order to get them going on their quest, Leia puts them in contact with someone on Pasaana. This is the desert planet, filmed in Jordan.
• It's at this point in the story where the Resistance team makes their way to the desert planet seen in the teaser and the D23 footage. It's revealed that Leia's contact is Lando Calrissian. Lando points them toward another one of the MacGuffins, a "Sith artifact" that apparently turns out to be a dagger. This dagger has some sort of writing on it that C-3PO can’t decipher. Note: My source understands this to be a "Sith language" of ancient origin. That description is pretty vague for me, but the key point is sound. Heroes find dagger, dagger has writing on it that C-3PO can't read.
• It’s during our heroes’ time on Pasaana that Kylo initiates a Force mind link between himself and Rey. Through their connection Kylo discovers where Rey and the Resistance team are and leaves to pursue them.
• There is a scene here on Pasaana where the heroes are attacked by a giant worm creature. Where my info differs in the worm scene is that I was told that instead of the heroes almost killing the worm, the worm basically has our heroes backed into a metaphorical corner and the healing is what allows them to survive and escape. The main story beat is the same, but some of the details panning out one way versus the other has slightly different implications on Rey’s character. It wasn’t done from a place of power and out of pity, but instead implies compassion in the face of danger.
• Eventually Kylo and the Knights of Ren arrive and begin to attack our heroes. One thing leads to another and the Resistance crew gets outnumbered and they are forced to make their escape on an old ship leaving the Millennium Falcon behind.
• Kylo recovers the Millennium Falcon and takes it back to his personal Star Destroyer.
• As previously mentioned, C-3PO is confronted with a challenge he is not equipped to handle. The artifact found on Pasaana contains a language that C-3PO can’t translate without modifications. In order to modify C-3POs programming, Poe brings the team to the wintery planet seen in the teaser (It is called Kijimi per the Vanity Fair article). This is where C-3PO is modified to allow translation of the artifact. I'm told that the modification is done by a small alien. Note: (This is possibly the one pictured in Image A of my post from six months ago. I'm not 100% sure on that, but confident enough in who told this to me that I'm willing to put it out there).
• Once translatable, the dagger supposedly reveals information regarding a second "Wayfinder", this one having belonged to Emperor Palpatine himself, leading the team to journey to the forest moon of Endor. Note: My sources tell me that the scene from the D23 footage showing C-3PO with red eyes connects to this event. The Red eyes are part of the "hack" that allows him to translate the "Sith language".
• During the events leading to the modification of C-3PO on the wintery planet, Kylo initiates another Force connection between himself and Rey.
• Kylo supposedly uses this as an opportunity to begin forcing Rey down the path of darkness. He does this by antagonizing Rey. Kylo tells her that he knows about the dagger and what it was once used for. Kylo apparently tells her that this dagger was used to murder Rey’s parents. Kylo maintains that her parents are nobodies in the grand story.
• This angers Rey and she lashes out at Kylo and a lightsaber duel ensues. Rey is on the planet Kijimi and Kylo is on his Star Destroyer. According to my source no flashes of any additional locations are seen during this fight.
• Kylo keeps the link alive long enough to learn Rey’s location and eventually peruses her in his Star Destroyer like before.
• The bounty hunter Zori Bliss is introduced sometime during their time on this planet. Note: My sources told me that she has history with Poe prior to Keri Russell saying the same thing in an interview some days ago. What this history was is still a mystery to me right now.
• Once Kylo arrives, our gang of heroes decides to sneak aboard and attempt to recover the Millennium Falcon prior to leaving. The rescue plan goes awry and the whole group gets captured by the First Order.
It’s at this point that two major things happen:
1. It’s revealed that General Hux is a First Order mole that has been feeding the Resistance information. This information may be how Leia and the Resistance know about Kylo Ren and The Knights of Ren search for the "Wayfinder".
He allows the heroes to escape while Kylo is distracted by dueling with Rey in person. The crew recovers the Millennium Falcon, Rey reconnects with them and they all flee.
2. During their duel, Kylo adds another wrinkle to Rey’s backstory. He maintains that while her parents were nobodies, her grandparents, more specifically her grandfather, was not. Kylo tells Rey that she is the granddaughter of Emperor Sheev Palpatine. This explains his interest in bringing the random nobody from Jakku into the fold.
• Following her battle aboard the Star Destroyer and escape on the Millennium Falcon, Rey uses the newly gleaned information resulting from C-3PO’s modifications and the translation of the dagger to travel to the forest moon of Endor. She goes alone.
• At this time, it’s a little unclear to me exactly how Kylo gets from point A to point B, but supposedly he is waiting for Rey in Emperor Palpatine’s throne room aboard the wreckage of the second Death Star. Note: (I assume he knows the location of the second "Wayfinder" due to his newfound connection to Emperor Palpatine, but that's just speculation on my part. I think it's important to note that Kylo may have been on Endor before considering that he had the charred helmet of Vader in The Force Awakens).
• Naturally, they fight. The specifics of this duel are unknown to me, but what I have been told about it is that it’s at this point when Rey begins to tap into some hatred to gain the upper hand and eventually defeats Kylo (Note: possibly destroying his red lightsaber in the process, but that's more rumor than leak at the moment), leaving him for dead on the wreckage of the second Death Star.
• Rey takes possession of Emperor Palpatine's "Wayfinder" and leaves.
• My sources tell me that the "Dark Rey" moment seen in the D23 footage is in fact a vision (described to me as thematically similar to Luke seeing himself as Vader in the cave on Dagobah). This apparently is a short sequence that happens right after Rey picks up Emperor Palpatine's "Wayfinder".
• While lying in the wreckage of the second Death Star in a weakened state, Kylo Ren reportedly sees a vision of his father. (Note: It’s unclear to me if Han appears as a bona fide ghost or just through the magic of injury induced hallucinations, but this interaction supposedly acts as Kylo Ren’s “come to Jesus” moment.)
• Han tells Kylo that it’s never too late to change and when he leaves Endor, he leaves not as Kylo Ren, but as Ben Solo.
• This duel is a critical tipping point for Rey as well. I’m told that in the wake of her confrontation with Kylo, she takes the "Wayfinder" and flees back to Ahch-to and attempts to collect her thoughts. Her mindset reportedly mirrors Luke’s while he was there prior to and during the events of Episode VIII: The Last Jedi. The vision of a possible dark future for herself in conjunction fact that she nearly killed Kylo scared Rey in the same way that considering killing his nephew Ben in his sleep scared Luke many years prior. She feared the path she was headed down and decides to swear off the Jedi Order, exiling herself on Ahch-to like Luke did. Rey scuttles the ship she used to get there just like Luke did to his X-Wing and she caps it all off by casting Anakin's reconstructed lightsaber toward her destroyed ship.
• Just when it looks like the Jedi Order is going to end (again), the Jedi ghost of Luke Skywalker appears to Rey, holding her discarded lightsaber and does what all good Force ghosts do; gives our hero the resolve to do what needs to be done. Finish the work Luke began over 30 years earlier and put an end to Emperor Palpatine for good. According to my source, Luke passes on Leia’s lightsaber to Rey. (Note: I don't know where it came from, where it's been all this time, or how Luke is able to give it to Rey, but what I can tell you (with only about 50% confidence at this point) is that Leia's blade is supposedly blue). Bolstered by her conversation with Luke, Rey takes Leia's lightsaber, transmits the location of the Sith fleet to the Resistance before heading out herself, possibly in Luke’s old X-Wing.
• On the subject of Force ghosts, Luke makes another appearance around the time of Rey and Kylo’s crises of faith. Back at the main Resistance base, Leia is on her deathbed. My source describes it to me like Yoda’s death in Return if the Jedi, nothing bad happened, it was just her time to go. Luke has come to says goodbye, but before it all ends for Leia, he has one final lesson for her.
From what I've been able to put together, the final act of the film is structured like this:
• Rey leaves Ahch-to and travels to the Sith fleet in the Unknown Regions. Eventually the Resistance fleet arrives and battle ensues. Somehow, Rey finds her way to Emperor Palpatine who has been waiting for her. He confirms that what Kylo told her was true. Apparently after his defeat on the Death Star II, Emperor Palpatine was shaken by the fact that he wasn't able to maintain his hold on Darth Vader or seduce Luke Skywalker to the dark side due to their strong familial bond. During the course of their conversation, Emperor Palpatine makes reference to this bond between Darth Vader and Luke. He likens it to his bond with Rey, hoping that whatever familial connection they have will be enough to win her over. It is Emperor Palpatine’s hope that their bond will be as strong as the Skywalkers was back then. Note: What my source described next feels very reminiscent of Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
• Rey is trapped in The Emperor’s throne room, watching two opposing fleets battle while she is helplessly gazes onward. It’s at this point that Kylo/Ben reappears. How we get to this next part is still a bit fuzzy to me, but apparently Ben and Rey join forces and begin attacking Emperor Palpatine. Leia's lightsaber comes back into play when Rey and Kylo share the Skywalker lightsabers throughout their fight. At some point, Emperor Palpatine overpowers them both and supposedly kills Ben. (Note: there have been reports from other reputable leakers that Kylo/Ben kind of/sort of dies, but my source on this seemed pretty unambiguous. Personally, I think we'll just have to wait and see what we learn over the next few months).
• When it looks like all hope is lost, the Jedi ghosts of Luke and Leia show up to aid Rey. Together they overpower Emperor Palpatine, ddestroying him and ending his darkness once and for all.
• As for what the other members of the Resistance are doing at this point, they are engaged in a space battle against Emperor Palpatine's fleet being lead by General Pryde.
• The Resistance's goal is supposedly to take out the flagship, severing communications and making navigation out of the Unknown Regions impossible. The new fleet’s flagship is destroyed around the same time that Emperor Palpatine is destroyed.
• The last thing I was told is regarding the final sequence of the film. I don’t why, but our heroes travel to the planet Tatooine. During these scenes, it is supposedly revealed that Rey has cannibalized the Anakin/Luke's lightsaber and the Leia lightsaber to make one of her own that supposedly has a yellow/gold blade.
• Rey buries the leftover pieces of the two lightsabers on the grounds of the former Lars homestead where Luke Skywalker grew up.
• A local sees Rey and comments not having seen anyone near this place in a long time. The local woman asks Rey what her name is to which she answers “Rey, Rey Skywalker.”
• The final shot of the Skywalker saga allegedly echoes how the adventure pretty much began in 1977, with our heroes, mirroring Luke’s gaze out at the horizon, dreaming of the future as Tatooine’s twin suns set in the distance.
Controversial stuff.
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Luke and Leia in a lightsaber duel during a flashback sequence.
There may be two different "Wayfinders", thus two different MacGuffins.
Emperor Palpatine is somehow physically alive (i.e. Ian McDiarmid), despite what happened at the end of Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
The idea that the normally selfish Emperor Palpatine is doing all of this because he wants Kylo and Rey to inherit his new "Galactic Empire."
Rey’s "Mary Sue" powers becoming even more over the top and ridiculous. It now seems that she can heal injuries and maybe even bring the dead back to life.
The continued use of new, bizarre Force powers including the one that seems to link Rey and Kylo as first introduced by Rian Johnson in Episode VIII: The Last Jedi. This includes an actual lightsaber duel in which Rey is on a planet while Kylo is on his Star Destroyer, and yet they are somehow able to combat each other.
Rey seems to defeat Kyo Ren every time they lightsaber duel.
The super big one: Rey is a Palpatine. Yep, she is Emperor Palpatine’s granddaughter.
Leia dies. No injury, just her time. Strange if not stupid since she should only be in her late fifties at this point.
No talk of one of the MacGuffins holding Palpatine’s ghost/spirit. No, he is physically here.
Ben Solo is killed.
The Jedi ghosts of Luke and Leia returning to actually assist Rey in defeating Emperor Palpatine. Was this set up by showing Yoda’s Jedi ghost interacting with the physical world when he set The Jedi/Force tree on fire in Episode VIII: The Last Jedi?
Rey possibly having a new lightsaber with a yellow blade. Where did the crystal come from?
Rey referring to herself as a Skywalker at the end of all this. The film’s title sadly makes one think this could very easily be true.
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Okay, that's it. I need to get drunk. I have earned it. 8)
Des,
Thanks for doing all that work on this. :)
Klaud looks great btw
Definitely catering to liberals that do not lift :DAll I know is that both reports stink.
A lot of people claim to know Star Wars, but they really don’t. Rian Johnson was/is such a person.
I think many think that, if you’ve seen the films, then you somehow automatically "know" Star Wars.
The vast difference between the opinions of film critics versus the fan base concerning the quality of Star Wars - Episode VIII: The Last Jedi only proves what I have always said: In general, film critics know absolutely nothing about Star Wars.
Having said this, Jon Favreau seems like he may know Star Wars. The half dozen or so in-jokes during the Sizzle Reel were spot-on.
It gives me new hope. Pardon the pun. 8)
when star wars were universally loved...
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The good news is that he is involved with The Mandalorian.
Also, we are getting the new season of Clone Wars. 8)
At least a couple of Star Wars projects to be cautiously optimistic about. :)
I'm so grateful that they managed to squeeze in a woman of color in this movie. I can't wait to see her stick it to the white patriarchy.
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The true successor to the Empire:
Grand-Admiral Thrawn.
Though it seems Disney would not accept that a capable military leader would rule the Empire.
In Return of the Jedi, a single battle was lost, the Empire lost many of its best ships and officers but they still controlled a vast chunk of territory and a massive Imperial Fleet.
The books by the Timothy Zahn should have been the next Star Wars movies, as the writer tried to present a 'realistic' situation to the continuing war. He also created great storylines for all the main characters.
It is here.
The final trailer.
It premiered tonight during halftime of Monday Night Football.
Direct link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qn_spdM5Zg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qn_spdM5Zg)
I saw the trailer today. Here are a few of my reactions.......
1. In this sequel trilogy, pretty much all Princess Leia does is hug people. She hugs people and does the Mary Poppins space walk. Total waste of her character. RIP Carrie.
2. Rose Tico got even fatter and less attractive since the last movie. She is such a dumb shitty character that she makes me miss Jar Jar.
3. I fucking hate Rey. Always making those stupid faces trying to look tough and intense. I started off wanting to like her but realizing that she kinda sucked. Now I full-on hate her guts.
4. I still don't give a fuck about this movie or anyone in it. I'm not paying to see this piece of shit. I'll eventually watch it just so I can go on the internet and shit all over it.
5. Pretty much all the fat black guy does in these movies is run, pant, and yell out "REY!!!". He needs to get on a fucking treadmill. He also needs to accept that Rey is not going to give him any pussy.
;D ;D
The last Jedi was bad..
They took a dump on everything Lucas created..
;D ;D
Hopefully this better..
Bought tickets for opening night..
;D ;D
I saw the trailer today. Here are a few of my reactions.......
1. In this sequel trilogy, pretty much all Princess Leia does is hug people. She hugs people and does the Mary Poppins space walk. Total waste of her character. RIP Carrie.
2. Rose Tico got even fatter and less attractive since the last movie. She is such a dumb shitty character that she makes me miss Jar Jar.
3. I fucking hate Rey. Always making those stupid faces trying to look tough and intense. I started off wanting to like her but realizing that she kinda sucked. Now I full-on hate her guts.
4. I still don't give a fuck about this movie or anyone in it. I'm not paying to see this piece of shit. I'll eventually watch it just so I can go on the internet and shit all over it.
5. Pretty much all the fat black guy does in these movies is run, pant, and yell out "REY!!!". He needs to get on a fucking treadmill. He also needs to accept that Rey is not going to give him any pussy.
The Force Awakens was okay, I would give it a 7/10 as a Star Wars movie (10/10 = Empire Strikes Back).
The prequels weren't great movies but I appreciate them more in retrospect than I did when they were in theaters. At least they had a story they were trying to tell. With these new movies it seems they're just re-telling the broad strokes of the original movies with new characters and making up the story movie-by-movie as they go.
The Last Jedi was dogshit. Don't have high hopes for this one but it can't be much worse.
The Force Awakens was okay, I would give it a 7/10 as a Star Wars movie (10/10 = Empire Strikes Back).
The prequels weren't great movies but I appreciate them more in retrospect than I did when they were in theaters. At least they had a story they were trying to tell. With these new movies it seems they're just re-telling the broad strokes of the original movies with new characters and making up the story movie-by-movie as they go.
The Last Jedi was dogshit. Don't have high hopes for this one but it can't be much worse.
The Knights of Ren look like a bunch of homeless guys that made half-assed Samurai costumes out of things they found at the city dump.
I'm sure their plot line will be equally shitty.
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The Knights of Ren look like a bunch of homeless guys that made half-assed Samurai costumes out of things they found at the city dump.
I'm sure their plot line will be equally shitty.
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The plot of this Trilogy doesn't make sense. It literally makes zero sense......and there is zero character development. These are just objectively bad movies. Total shit.
Rey already defeated Kylo the first time she picked up a lightsaber (with no training). Rey and Kylo already teamed up and dispatched the big bad guy sitting in a throne (in Episode 8). Where is the drama?
I don't care about any of these characters in the least. I'm actually rooting for the First Order to kill them all and cut their fucking heads off.
Rose Tico is clearly off-season in this movie. Dirty bulking.
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Rose Tico is clearly off-season in this movie. Dirty bulking.
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You think her actionfigure will sell more this time than the last time?
just holding a bit of dbol bloat
You think her actionfigure will sell more this time than the last time?
Rose Tico is clearly off-season in this movie. Dirty bulking.
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I hope the Empire appears out of nowhere and wipes them all out, The First Order and the Rebels. Complete destruction of everything is the only way this trilogy can be saved.
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Hope you're looking forward to seeing horses running on a Star Destroyer.
The trailer is already looking like another train wreck.
Gemstar Wars
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You think her actionfigure will sell more this time than the last time?
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;D :P
WOW..
Thick and juicy..
;D ;D
How about this,
Anakins force-ghost is fed up with the wokeness and liberals, and possesses a 6'7" beast (Marty Falcon or some other Getbigger, not Roelly, too short), makes a new helmet (red helmet with a white logo "Make the Galaxy Great Again") and goes to town with everyone!
Destroying First Order, the Rebels and builds a galactic wall around the civilized galaxy.
You want to know something?
That really is another way, a legitimate way, in which to look at it.
One can also make the case that Palpatine was never really allowed to govern or fully implement his overall plans since he pretty much faced a resistance from day one - the Rebel Alliance, started in secret by Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, Padme Amidala Skywalker... and a few other senators.
Resistance. Hmmm...
Remind you of anyone else? ;)
I've always supported Darth Trump, best Sith-Lord ever!
Mando looks good
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Yes. 8)
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As a Trump supporter, one may think I would be pissed about pictures like these.
They would be wrong.
Sith are true badasses... and Trump would make one hell of a Sith. 8)
It is true that a planet was a destroyed, but this planet was a base of terrorist operations and the attack via the super-weapon was aimed at ending the war as quickly as possible and saving the lives of countless billions.
Alderaan was a base?
I'm not sure it was.
If it wasn't it invalidates the whole premise.
Alderaan was a base?
I'm not sure it was.
If it wasn't it invalidates the whole premise.
Alderaan was one of the important core worlds of the Galactic Republic.
The planet had no defense force.
However, the planet was led by Senator Bail Organa, former first chairman and viceroy.
Organa was a secret founding member of the Rebel Alliance. He pretended loyalty to Emperor Sheev Palpatine in the Imperial Senate. In reality, he was a rebel.
In the eyes of the Galactic Empire, he and anyone like him was a terrorist... including his daughter Leia Organa.
Darth Vader had long suspected Leia of being a rebel sympathizer at best, or an actual rebel agent at worst. (see some EU including the excellent radio drama)
Once she is caught in her father's starship above Tatooine, after having fled the Scarif system with a copy of the Death Star schematics, Vader knows now beyond any doubt that Leia Organa is Rebellion. It isn't much of a stretch to see that the father is also Rebellion.
Tarkin sets out to make an example of her, her father, and their people. Bail is on the planet when it happens.
Traitors within the Galactic Empire would not be tolerated.
I'm aware of the backstory, just that it seems like a completely unnecessary show of force (when trying to view it from the lens of a member of the empire trying to justify actions). I think the argument falls flat there. They showed the power of the Death Star in Rogue One, so a repeat was not vital.
If we are to accept the alternate reality as presented by Disney of the last few movies as canon, then they are also a serious indictment into the state of the so-called 'New Republic'.
30 years after the Battle of Endor, and the withdrawal of most of the Imperial Fleet and Galactic government to consolidate their forces, we are shown a galaxy where a great number of people live in poverty and squalid conditions. Nothing has improved, actually, it looks like things are worse.
In fact, the current government is divided into the 'Populists', led by Leia, who favour more self-rule and the 'Centrists' who are nostalgic for the days of order and discipline under the Empire and wish to re-create a similar system. For 30 years the government has been weak, disorganized and fragmented, confirming everything the Galactic Empire had warned would happen if rebels took over.
And not even the government of the 'New Republic' is willing to wage a war against the First Order. Why? Because a large amount of their financial backing is in fact coming from within, from citizens and those in government.
This is why a militia is formed under Leia, the 'Resistance', and sets out to fight against a relatively small private army formed from remnants of the Imperial Armed Forces. The advanced technological levels, and ship and weapons innovations of the First Order also indicate that a large number of top scientists and engineers chose to rather abandon the rebel government and rather support the successors of the Galactic Empire.
The First Order consider themselves a liberation force and so do vast amounts of people and territory under the currently occupied territories held by the rebels.
Mandalorian is supposedly very good.
Mandalorian is supposedly very good.
First group picture of The Knights of Ren from new TV spot.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/j-j-abrams-hints-lgbtq-184847278.html
"J.J. Abrams hints there will be LGBTQ representation in ‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker'"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/j-j-abrams-hints-lgbtq-184847278.html
"J.J. Abrams hints there will be LGBTQ representation in ‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker'"
These movies are for children. Disney fags and soy tampon boys like them, no one else gives a shit.
Yep. No one actually likes this shit.
Lucky if it even grosses a billion.
Then it might be a good film after all:
Star Wars actor John Boyega says he doesn’t agree with a lot of the choices made in The Last Jedi
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star-wars-actor-john-boyega-105701070.html
Taking a cursory glance at the movie post.... they've added 2 new main characters. Both women. ::)
(Lando is back and is still for the most part a man but he's not "new")
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George Lucas no-showed at the premiere.
Then it might be a good film after all:
Star Wars actor John Boyega says he doesn’t agree with a lot of the choices made in The Last Jedi
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star-wars-actor-john-boyega-105701070.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K943oYEukHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K943oYEukHg)
Major spoiler. Do not click if you still care about Star Wars. You have been warned. Mary Sue at it again.
I think most old Star Wars-fans stopped caring after the new EP of the new Trilogy :D
When everyone saw ah, so this is where we are going, SJW, Feminist Agenda of Peace
George Lucas no-showed at the premiere.
George should have made sequels in 1999 instead of prequels.
Someone like JJ Abrams or "Rian" (::)) Johnson could then make prequels in 2015 if people still care what Darth Vader's childhood was like or what color Obi-wan's mentor's lightsaber was.
Jew Jew Abrams and cast on Kimmel
The new series is great. Mandalorian. Had a lazy sunday watched all first 6ep and the 7th today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K943oYEukHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K943oYEukHg)
Major spoiler. Do not click if you still care about Star Wars. You have been warned. Mary Sue at it again.
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The Fall of Skywalker is getting hammered by critics.
The new series is great. Mandalorian. Had a lazy sunday watched all first 6ep and the 7th today.
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It's a remake of Titanic! :D
Yes, and Disney spent an extra $ 500 million on re-shoots!
And there are already a lot of empty seats, even on opening weekend.
People refuse to see it but Star Wars is dead. It died when The Phantom Menace came out.
fuck you George and fuck you Disney!
Loved Giorgio Lukakis back in the 80s.
People refuse to see it but Star Wars is dead. It died when The Phantom Menace came out.
fuck you George and fuck you Disney!
The Fall of Skywalker is getting hammered by critics.
Oh, I thought it died when the freaken Ewoks came out, instead of the expected/anticipated Wookies.
Anyone see this pile of steaming shit?
Anyone see this pile of steaming shit?
9 was great. Really well done with some epic moments, and all the annoying stuff removed. If Abrams has episode 8 to develop some of it (Knights of Ren, etc) it would have been even better.
Rose and such are a non-factor, and he fixed some of the stuff 8 broke.
He didn't fix jack, basically pulled scenes from Clone Wars, Books, etc. and patched it all together. The crossed sobers he copied also but I can't remember the scene where he hijacked it from. The horses running on the ship was also hijacked from Clone Wars.
https://youtu.be/-7hBZNsPnyg?t=106 (https://youtu.be/-7hBZNsPnyg?t=106)
https://youtu.be/JV5Ct3qhSTA?t=145 (https://youtu.be/JV5Ct3qhSTA?t=145)
Tell me he didn't do this viral part at the end. I saw the spoilers.
Jew Hack!
Lol at commenting when you didn't even see the movie.
I know it's now trendy to bash all things Star Wars, but I didn't care.
8 was such a steaming pile of shit, and Abrams did a great job righting the ship.
9 was great. Really well done with some epic moments, and all the annoying stuff removed. If Abrams has episode 8 to develop some of it (Knights of Ren, etc) it would have been even better.
Rose and such are a non-factor, and he fixed some of the stuff 8 broke.
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Lol at commenting when you didn't even see the movie.
I know it's now trendy to bash all things Star Wars, but I didn't care.
8 was such a steaming pile of shit, and Abrams did a great job righting the ship.
If I have seen all the key points, why do I need to see the connective tissue? It's trash, and Abraham is a hack, just like Dan and Dave. Kennedy's SJW Reign is OVER! It would have made more sense to make Rey a descendant of this female Jedi in the OR. That's creativity and thinking out of the box
https://youtu.be/NuNvCOUy1Ts?t=476 (https://youtu.be/NuNvCOUy1Ts?t=476)
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After the debacle that was The Last Jedi, I didn't see Solo and I'm not going to see this. I'm not rewarding Disney for their shitty movies, their hostility towards the fans, and their obvious disdain for Luke Skywalker.
Fuck Disney Star Wars.
Lol at commenting when you didn't even see the movie.
I know it's now trendy to bash all things Star Wars, but I didn't care.
8 was such a steaming pile of shit, and Abrams did a great job righting the ship.
I'd serious volunteer to be Darkside Rey's sex slave. Real short, but HOT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbSn9VaoqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbSn9VaoqQ)
5. Kept Rose a non factor, except showing her sprinting, which would be impossible for more than 30 feet.
LOL.....true.
I'm boycotting this film so will not be paying to see it.
Glad to see it bombing and get completely destroyed by Joker, which earned over a billion with a budgest of 55 - 70 million dollars.
Since when are Asians a minority ???
I'm boycotting this film so will not be paying to see it.
Glad to see it bombing and get completely destroyed by Joker, which earned over a billion with a budget of 55 - 70 million dollars.
One funny thing about The Rise of Soywalker. Finn got friend-zoned by Rey.....hard. For three movies he follows her around like a puppy dog. Running after her, yelling her name. Risking his life for her.
In the end Kylo, who murdered Han Solo and sliced Finn up with a lightsaber, was closer to getting the pussy than Finn was. lol.
Blah blah blah - to all the critics and complainers, in just TEN days, Star Wars IX did...
$725 million dollars
End of Story - expect lots more Star Wars movies and series coming out - quite a few, if Disney is smart.
And the worldwide audience will eat it up! Just like they do Star Trek!
The family and I saw the movie this past weekend. It was good, not great, but good and enjoyable to watch.
Blah blah blah - to all the critics and complainers, in just TEN days, Star Wars IX did...
$725 million dollars
End of Story - expect lots more Star Wars movies and series coming out - quite a few, if Disney is smart.
And the worldwide audience will eat it up! Just like they do Star Trek!
The family and I saw the movie this past weekend. It was good, not great, but good and enjoyable to watch.
Look her multi-chin. That's 362.5 mil How much did it cost for this movie along with re-shoots and advertising? They haven't broken even yet.
Blah blah blah - to all the critics and complainers, in just TEN days, Star Wars IX did...
$725 million dollars
End of Story - expect lots more Star Wars movies and series coming out - quite a few, if Disney is smart.
And the worldwide audience will eat it up! Just like they do Star Trek!
The family and I saw the movie this past weekend. It was good, not great, but good and enjoyable to watch.
Rogue One and Solo are the best ones since the sale to Disney, if you ask the Hulkotron.
Rogue One and Solo are the best ones since the sale to Disney, if you ask the Hulkotron.
Rogue One was an Oscars-winner compared to Episode 7,8 and 9.
The new trilogy is pure and utter filt.
Even rogue one was about some Mary Sue. Does every Disney movie have to have a strong female lead and secondary male actors? Somehow she’s the only survivor.
Even rogue one was about some Mary Sue. Does every Disney movie have to have a strong female lead and secondary male actors? Somehow she’s the only survivor.
She didn't survive.
What? They all died.
Yes, they were all wiped out by atomics.
Beautiful ending :'(
Box Office: ‘Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker’ Plunges 71% On Friday
.....and there's something fucky going on with the Rotten Tomatoes audience score.
I don't think so.
I think a large amount of audiences enjoyed it, since expectations were so low after episode 8.
8 was the opposite - RT score high, audience low.
Shows that normal people don't see eye to eye with pretentious liberal SJW reviewers.