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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on December 26, 2005, 01:42:39 PM
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Dec 26: A long conversation with Matt Klein provided some terrific information on the case. What do we now know?
1- Matt Klein was in the process of talking to the feds when Craig was captured. Matt declined their insistent "offer" to help, and while they were at his house discussing it with him, Craig was captured. They were leaning on him, but his help was never needed or used.
2- The feds were trying to set up a trap for Craig at 4 pm. He was followed throughout the town and captured without incident at 3:35 pm.
3- Ten people in Las Vegas knew where Craig was heading, and the feds were tracking them across the country. They knew Craig had traded in his truck for another truck, a conspicuous jacked-up Dodge with tinted windows
4- Matt Klein is a good friend of Titus. You can hear the love in his voice.
5- While Matt admits he isn't perfect and hasn't been a saint, he addressed each of the accusations and presented a very believable case for why one particular poster, M.V., holds such a grudge.
6- Evidence points to Craig being guilty only of trying to protect the women in his life. Sad, but true
7- freecraigtitus.com retracts and apologizes for any incorrect information posted in the past about Matt K. He has cleared his name in our eye, and seemed to be, above all, a good friend in a tough spot.
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Good stuff, Rob. Thanks.
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From Matt Cline himself... regarding what exactly happened.
http://www.getbig.com/iview/cline051225.htm
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oustide of the FBI, why would he want to talk to some blogger?
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From Matt Cline himself... regarding what exactly happened.
http://www.getbig.com/iview/cline051225.htm
Great interview.
not much more is learned...but he seems to lean towards Kelly alot
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Why didn't Craig just ask Matt to western union him some cash? Could have saved him from driving 3 THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU SAND MILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still makes no sense to me. It's all very sad though.
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of course, they blame it on a witch. cant take responsibility for action.
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Good, lots of details fill in the blanks. Craig had no money, couldn't leave. He was protecting his wife.
An ostentatious truck that was easily spotted and had no license plates was bought for what reason....??????????
He told about 10 people what he was going to do because....???????????
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Good, lots of details fill in the blanks. Craig had no money, couldn't leave. He was protecting his wife.
Yet he calls himself big business?
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for a month i've been playing Lady Macbeth sleepwalking scene by Giuseppe Verdi at least once a day. it's about a Macbeth's wife who is insane/mad and a great soliloquy about her insane personal terror.
now i realize that it's kelly ryan who i've been channeling during this demonic time in her life. does anybody else know this great piece of music?
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Matt was lying his ass off in that interview, there is no way that dude is tough enough to say no to all of the pressure that the FBI would have put on him to rat out Craig, i think he worked with the FBI from the first time they contacted him, this guy is a pussy club kid, he's probably been supported by daddy and mommy his whole life.
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Yet he calls himself big business?
Hah err no.
Big Business was a name that was given to him during a thread on getbig on what nickname we could have for titus. A guest by the name of "suggestion" suggested it and from memory not once would Craig acknowledge it here. He knew it was him though.
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No - I know Matt. It is 'C' as in Cline!
As in working with the Feds, they knew a lot because of the people in Vegas who told them.
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Good interview.
Hope Titus doesn't try to do the "honorable" thing and take the rap for killing the girl.
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Good interview.
Hope Titus doesn't try to do the "honorable" thing and take the rap for killing the girl.
I am sure forensics will figure it out
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Ron? 240? It's Kline with a "K" ;)
matt cline just called me to clear it up.
He spells it with a C.
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Great interview, ron!
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No - I know Matt. It is 'C' as in Cline!
As in working with the Feds, they knew a lot because of the people in Vegas who told them.
My bad. ;D He just called and the first words he said is it's Cline with a "C"
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After they reviewed the evidence and held another in custody, spoke to several key witnesses why is it that the police charged Craig with murder and not Kelly out of the gate?
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I say we should get a conference call going
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I say we should get a conference call going
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will you be rubbing one out in the backgruond?
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I say we should get a conference call going
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Nah, there's too many ppl in the mix already. ;D
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After they reviewed the evidence and held another in custody, spoke to several key witnesses why is it that the police charged Craig with murder and not Kelly out of the gate?
I think that you answered your own question. They charged Craig right out of the gate then they reviewed the evidence and spoke to people after they filed charges.
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I think that you answered your own question. They charged Craig right out of the gate then they reviewed the evidence and spoke to people after they filed charges.
Yup, I think it was easier to look at the size (although dwindling) and then look at Kelly and go "he did it". But I believe they will find in the end it was the other way around.
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Nah, there's too many ppl in the mix already. ;D
It would be interesting to say the least.
Ron trying to conduct the conference....
We would have 240 plugging his website....
Mike shoutting out to himself....
Cheri laughing at Mike....
Shawn plugging his muscle camp....
Geo making crunching noises from eating snacks....
Toxic burping from excessive drinking.....
Jimmy giggling (& why...we don't want to know)
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It seem that filing charges against the wrong person would be a pretty serious mistake on the part of "the law".
Can anyone with experience in these matters offer some comments on how common this might be?
Does it cause any problems for the prosecuting attorney once it gets squared away and they go to trail?
Would it be some sort of ammunition for the defense and place some "doubt" in the mind of a jury?
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It seem that filing charges against the wrong person would be a pretty serious mistake on the part of "the law".
Can anyone with experience in these matters offer some comments on how common this might be?
Does it cause any problems for the prosecuting attorney once it gets squared away and they go to trail?
Would it be some sort of ammunition for the defense and place some "doubt" in the mind of a jury?
To some degree...maybe..
but Craig & Kelly are innocent until proven guilty....
right?
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I think the Police probably made the call based on the third person involved in the case plus what physical evidence they have. It would have been just as easy to charge Kelly too. Didn't Craig stay the night with Melissa in the hotel room? It would seem therefore that he was the last person to see her alive. Thats probably what the Police are going on as well. Also, maybe they are pinning it on Craig alone to get him to spill the beans. Regardless of how much he loves Kelly (it appears he liked Melissa too) I doubt he take the role of "dead man walking" on her behalf! It'll all come out soon.
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I think the Police probably made the call based on the third person involved in the case plus what physical evidence they have. It would have been just as easy to charge Kelly too. Didn't Craig stay the night with Melissa in the hotel room? It would seem therefore that he was the last person to see her alive. Thats probably what the Police are going on as well. Also, maybe they are pinning it on Craig alone to get him to spill the beans. Regardless of how much he loves Kelly (it appears he liked Melissa too) I doubt he take the role of "dead man walking" on her behalf! It'll all come out soon.
Well, his criminal record doesn't help him either
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It seem that filing charges against the wrong person would be a pretty serious mistake on the part of "the law".
Can anyone with experience in these matters offer some comments on how common this might be?
Does it cause any problems for the prosecuting attorney once it gets squared away and they go to trail?
Would it be some sort of ammunition for the defense and place some "doubt" in the mind of a jury?
people are arrested, sought, charges nullified all the time.
FACT 1. a human being is dead. who is responsible?
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Why is it so hard to understand that maybe he wanted to get caught.
Good, lots of details fill in the blanks. Craig had no money, couldn't leave. He was protecting his wife.
An ostentatious truck that was easily spotted and had no license plates was bought for what reason....??????????
He told about 10 people what he was going to do because....???????????
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Why is it so hard to understand that maybe he wanted to get caught.
Silly, he didn't have to drive cross-country to do that..
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Silly, he didn't have to drive cross-country to do that..
dude ran away chicken
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Monday night - Craig posted at 8:18pm on this board. He was at home.
Tuesday night - Melissas flight left at 9:30pm. She wasn't on it.
Do you think that Craig went to the hotel room Monday night?
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Monday night - Craig posted at 8:18pm on this board. He was at home.
Tuesday night - Melissas flight left at 9:30pm. She wasn't on it.
Do you think that Craig went to the hotel room Monday night?
Perhaps Craig was home alone, goofing off on the web when things went down...
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Let's face the facts here:
1. Matt Cline is, according to Matt Cline, Craig's "best friend".
2. Craig and Matt spoke several times since the murder.
3. The FBI knew Matt was speaking to Craig and monitored their phone calls.
4. Matt lives in Boston.
5. Craig and Kelly live in Las Vegas, nearly 3000 miles from Boston.
6. Craig and Kelly drove 3000 miles to Boston and called Matt Cline when they got there to borrow money.
7. According to Matt, he has "no idea" why they came to Boston.
8. Craig and Kelly knew no one else in Boston and called no one else in Boston.
9. The FBI leaned on Matt, a former convict with a recent history, and we're supposed to believe he told them to take a hike.
10. Yet somehow, the feds knew exactly where Craig and Kelly were at the time of their arrest.
11. There is no chance that Craig and Kelly were followed or watched from Vegas to Boston because they were fugitives the moment they left Nevada, and would have been immediately picked up.
12. Matt C. was in contact with Craig after they arrived in Boston.
13. Does anyone believe Craig and Kelly drove 3000 miles over three days to show up and surprise an old friend by asking him for passports and money?????
14. Craig knew he was in a tight spot and reached out to the only guy he thought he could trust - his oldest friend he had known for 15 years.
15. Matt told Craig he could come to Boston and lay low there while they tried to get them out of the country.
16. Acting on this info, Craig and Kelly drove 3000 miles to what they thought was a safehouse.
17. The feds tracked Craig's cell phone calls to Matt C. and showed up at Matt's house flashing badges and making threats of being an accessory after the fact. It's not hard for the FBI to intimidate an ex-con, drug using and dealing lowlife.
18. Matt told the feds Craig and Kelly were on their way - something confirmed by Craigs continuing calls to Matt.
19. Matt felt so guilty about giving up the duo he couldn't bring himself to answer Craig's calls because he didn't want to lie to his friend's face that he was setting Craig up.
20. In the end, Matt waited until Craig was in Boston to answer Craig's calls and then arranged a meeting place so Craig and Kelly could get taken down.
21. It's obvious Craig was sitting in the pickup waiting on a meeting. Kelly went to the salon so the guys could be alone and talk things over.
22. Craig called Matt C from the parking lot and told him where he was and described his vehicle.
23. The feds moved in and busted Craig and Kelly.
24. Now Matt C. wants you all to believe some complete BS and it looks like Ron and 240 fell for it.
25. Ask yourself if his story makes any sense.
26. For Christ's sake, don't FREAKIN' LIE about it and say "I TRIED TO WARN CRAIG" when all it would have taken would have been to tell Craig while he was en route to say, "Dude, don't bother coming here - the place is crawling with cops." That would have been enough.
27. Fact is, you gave up your best friend. Live with it.
28. And don't say you don't know where Craig is being held because that's more BS. You know exactly where he is and won't go near there because you know Craig knows you set him up and you're the LAST PERSON he'd want to see right now.
There, I said it.
Special "Spade" Ed
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I agree, but I will also add that Matt had little choice in the matter at that point.
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Yes, Matt Kline should go to prison (for aiding and abbetting) and everyone on this site that makes light of this because of the fact they know him in a different context should take a GOOD look in the mirror tommorow and try to draw an analogy to another murder trial they have seen on T.V. It may put it into the context beyond bodybuilding.
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I'm not saying Matt had much choice about the matter, but if you rat out your friend to the feds when he needs your help the most, hang your head in shame and deal with it.
Don't post LIES on the internet and try to make FOOLS of us at getbig by asking us to believe Craig and Kelly drove to Boston as if it was some randomly selected location.
Special "Death Before Dishonor" Ed
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Special Ed, you give quite a compelling argument.
Info has been slow to reach the masses in this case. As more people come fwd (even anonymously with details) I can challenge the statements made by matt. But right now, I have matt willing to talk on phone and his enemies not wiling to give details.
People, speak up. The truth is all the world wants here.
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I'm not saying Matt had much choice about the matter, but if you rat out your friend to the feds when he needs your help the most, hang your head in shame and deal with it.
Don't post LIES on the internet and try to make FOOLS of us at getbig by asking us to believe Craig and Kelly drove to Boston as if it was some randomly selected location.
Special "Death Before Dishonor" Ed
I see your point but in this case Craig and Kelly were going down no matter what so Matt decided to help the feds or go to jail for 5 or more years. Anyone on this board would have done the same. Now, I do agree that Matt should have just kept his mouth shut about the whole matter. Better to say nothing that to have to defend your words. The more he talks to worse it will get for him. To me it is rather obvious what he did.
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i hope he was going to have help running that new organization
because the way he did this proves he's incompetent
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If you read between the lines of the interview with Matt you can see that he believes that Kelly killed Melissa. I wouldn't be too surprised if Craig told him the whole story.
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Word on the street is that the WPI was just another scam and Craig was raising money from suckas to spend on drugs.
Question: Since Matt Cline was a partner in WPI, was he one of the scammers or one of the suckas?
Special "Sucka MC" Ed
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If you read between the lines of the interview with Matt you can see that he believes that Kelly killed Melissa. I wouldn't be too surprised if Craig told him the whole story.
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Craig didn't do it. But his passenger did.
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Craig didn't do it. But his passenger did.
This big question is, was it an accident or planned. I feel that it was most likely an accident after an argument ensued.
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This big question is, was it an accident or planned. I feel that it was most likely an accident after an argument ensued.
feel ? lol
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This big question is, was it an accident or planned. I feel that it was most likely an accident after an argument ensued.
i thnk it was an act of rage. Craiggers is at home trying to post on getbig, kelly shows up at the hotel and they fight. MJ is wounded badly and Craig is called.
Something very bad happens next.
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you mean stupid dont you ?
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Craig didn't do it. But his passenger did.
posted @ 10am on the 23rd:
""Ryan proceeded to tell Polk she had found their roommate, Melissa, dead in her room from an overdose," police said. "Polk said Ryan told her Melissa had been dead for a few hours and couldn't describe what she looked like because it would traumatize Polk for life. Polk said Ryan proceeded to tell her" that her life was ruined "because she bought seven bottles of lighter fluid at Wal-Mart with her credit card" at 3:30 a.m.
Investigators say Polk confronted Ryan and asked her why she hadn't called police when she found the body. "Ryan responded by saying Craig told her, 'No body, no crime,'•" "
this right here makes no sense at all. what f-ing crime are you commiting by finding your roommate dead in your house from an overdose? kelly cant even make up a good story to lie to her friends about to cover her ass. i think kelly choked her out. craig seemed to be nice to the girl and the girl told her mom that kelly was acting crazy lately. kelly killed that girl and craig tried to cover it up.
boy you guys are quick to figure this one out. ::)
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"Craiggers" is at home posting on getbig? Hmmmm-getbig's implicated? Prison time?
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Matt was lying his ass off in that interview, there is no way that dude is tough enough to say no to all of the pressure that the FBI would have put on him to rat out Craig, i think he worked with the FBI from the first time they contacted him, this guy is a pussy club kid, he's probably been supported by daddy and mommy his whole life.
exactly !
Any of you that think Matt did not help the FBI catch Craig in a set up are in need of help.
Even the New York Post mentioned that they were caught with the help of a tipster. ( tipster a.k.a. Matt )
240, you have been had....
end of story
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exactly !
Any of you that think Matt did not help the FBI catch Craig in a set up are in need of help.
Even the New York Post mentioned that they were caught with the help of a tipster. ( tipster a.k.a. Matt )
240, you have been had....
end of story
240 thinks he's Geraldo.
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let me tell you something
if i knew the whereabouts of suspected murderers on the run and the FBI showed up to interview me
i would share all the info i could
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Obviously Matt did what was required, there was no choice. It was that simple-he had no idea when/how they were listening in to calls, possibly from day one.
The only thing he could do to help Craig was refrain from contact, which he did.
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If I had a friend (best friend or not) who murdered someone, I wouldn't help them. And I would probably try to convince them to turn themselves in. If they chose not to, I would have to say I would help the authorities. If they were evil enough to kill someone and try to hide it in such a manner Craig and Kelly did, they would not be the people I thought they were (friend) expecially if they were trying to pull me into it all by asking for my help.
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let me tell you something
if i knew the whereabouts of suspected murderers on the run and the FBI showed up to interview me
i would share all the info i could
your point is valid,
But.....
If you are going to talk the talk, then walk the walk,
or alteast keep silent about what you did.
But what did Matt do ?
He comes out telling lies, trying to cover up what he did to his "best friend "
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You don't know if he's been lying. I doubt it, other than some embellishments, due to legal ramifications as well as the fact that it's public info, truth will come out later anyway.
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your point is valid,
But.....
If you are going to talk the talk, then walk the walk,
or alteast keep silent about what you did.
But what did Matt do ?
He comes out telling lies, trying to cover up what he did to his "best friend "
#1 matt seems to have difficulty telling the truf to begin with
#2 for matt to even discuss this subject is courageous for him given his history of open candor
#3 somewhere between the nuances of matts weave is a fiber of honesty
#4 i would declare him a hostile witness and destory him
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Monday night - Craig posted at 8:18pm on this board. He was at home.
Tuesday night - Melissas flight left at 9:30pm. She wasn't on it.
Do you think that Craig went to the hotel room Monday night?
why would he have to be at home to be online, couldn't he have been on a laptop?
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why would he have to be at home to be online, couldn't he have been on a laptop?
great question perry mason
or is it miss marple?
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Matt is reading all this shit (he doesn't want to post)
he is trying to raise money to help Craig(Matt tried to go to the extradition trial this morning but they would not let him in)
if he ratted Craig out, Craig would know by now and he would spit on Matt and Matt's help
truth is they are best friends and Craig ran to Matt when he was in trouble,Matt certainly didn't rat him out nor did he help him either(the feds were crawling all over the place)
Craig made no secret of where he was going
it wasn't to hard for the feds to catch him
the only thing they wanted from Matt was a "safe drop point" to catch Craig(like Matt's house or a restaurant) storming a nail salon in swat gear was not what they wanted from Matt
Matt loves craig like a brother (and me having known Matt for well over a decade know all this to be true)
peace................Mik e
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They wanted me to talk to Craig, and set up a drop, and I said no way - I am not doing it. I told them that no way I am going to set up my best friend. You guys are the FBI, you guys do you job, and I am not going to help you on this. I know you are getting every phone call, so do you own work.
BS!! No phuking way...Anyone here ever dealt w/the FBI? Well I have. Some people close to me have. Maybe some hardass connected types would be so inclined to tell the feds to get phuked but not this Mat guy, no way....."Do your job, I am not going to help you on this!"?????? I promise you all, that version of that conversation NEVER took place.
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They wanted me to talk to Craig, and set up a drop, and I said no way - I am not doing it. I told them that no way I am going to set up my best friend. You guys are the FBI, you guys do you job, and I am not going to help you on this. I know you are getting every phone call, so do you own work.
BS!! No phuking way...Anyone here ever dealt w/the FBI? Well I have. Some people close to me have. Maybe some hardass connected types would be so inclined to tell the feds to get phuked but not this Mat guy, no way....."Do your job, I am not going to help you on this!"?????? I promise you all, that version of that conversation NEVER took place.
i couldnt agree more
that matt better get off the martyr trip.
when the FBI appear with badges and formality.
you cooperate or they will haul your ass fast.
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If Craig was so broke, why was Kelly spending money on her nails? Wouldn't you want to hold on to all the $$ you had, unless the salon was the set-up to take Kelly down without being hurt. Protected her until the end.
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They wanted me to talk to Craig, and set up a drop, and I said no way - I am not doing it. I told them that no way I am going to set up my best friend. You guys are the FBI, you guys do you job, and I am not going to help you on this. I know you are getting every phone call, so do you own work.
BS!! No phuking way...Anyone here ever dealt w/the FBI? Well I have. Some people close to me have. Maybe some hardass connected types would be so inclined to tell the feds to get phuked but not this Mat guy, no way....."Do your job, I am not going to help you on this!"?????? I promise you all, that version of that conversation NEVER took place.
this is exactly what i said in my post above, there's no fuckin' way that this pussy ass poser had the nuts to tell the FBI to get fucked, i mean look at him, does he look tough to you? he looks like a fat John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.
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I doubt Kelly truly wanted a Pedicure that bad.
My guess is that the Shopping Center Parking lot was a meeting point, set up by Matt and Craig.
to do the "liquidation of assets.
and Craig probally asked Kelly to go into one of the store's and stay hidden until the exchange took place,
telling her that if she see's the Police outside, then they were set up, and to not come out of the store, and stay hidden.
just a guess...
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I doubt Kelly truly wanted a Pedicure that bad.
My guess is that the Shopping Center Parking lot was a meeting point, set up by Matt and Craig.
to do the "liquidation of assets.
and Craig probally asked Kelly to go into one of the store's and stay hidden until the exchange took place,
telling her that is she see's the Police outside, then they were set up, and to not come out of the store, and stay hidden.
just a guess...
good guess
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If I had a friend (best friend or not) who murdered someone, I wouldn't help them. And I would probably try to convince them to turn themselves in. If they chose not to, I would have to say I would help the authorities. If they were evil enough to kill someone and try to hide it in such a manner Craig and Kelly did, they would not be the people I thought they were (friend) expecially if they were trying to pull me into it all by asking for my help.
If Mike killed someone...
would you work with the feds then?
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If it was me-
and the feds showed up wanting ANYTHING-
I'd ask for a lawyer, then answer what I had to, in order to avoid jail.
Also, they can't prosecute you for not answering if you honestly cannot remember.
"I can't recall" is a hell of a loophole.
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If it was me-
and the feds showed up wanting ANYTHING-
I'd ask for a lawyer, then answer what I had to, in order to avoid jail.
Also, they can't prosecute you for not answering if you honestly cannot remember.
"I can't recall" is a hell of a loophole.
Bil Clinton's favorite saying.......... " I cant recall " ;D
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If Mike killed someone...
would you work with the feds then?
the subject of this thread is the grease ball singing canary in massachusetts not some hypothetical unreal question about your legal advise
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If Mike killed someone...
would you work with the feds then?
if he murdered someone....absolutely. if we were married, well then, one spouse cannot be used to testify against the other, but i would never look at him in the same light again.
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Let's face the facts here:
1. Matt Cline is, according to Matt Cline, Craig's "best friend".
2. Craig and Matt spoke several times since the murder.
3. The FBI knew Matt was speaking to Craig and monitored their phone calls.
4. Matt lives in Boston.
5. Craig and Kelly live in Las Vegas, nearly 3000 miles from Boston.
6. Craig and Kelly drove 3000 miles to Boston and called Matt Cline when they got there to borrow money.
7. According to Matt, he has "no idea" why they came to Boston.
8. Craig and Kelly knew no one else in Boston and called no one else in Boston.
9. The FBI leaned on Matt, a former convict with a recent history, and we're supposed to believe he told them to take a hike.
10. Yet somehow, the feds knew exactly where Craig and Kelly were at the time of their arrest.
11. There is no chance that Craig and Kelly were followed or watched from Vegas to Boston because they were fugitives the moment they left Nevada, and would have been immediately picked up.
12. Matt C. was in contact with Craig after they arrived in Boston.
13. Does anyone believe Craig and Kelly drove 3000 miles over three days to show up and surprise an old friend by asking him for passports and money?Huh?
14. Craig knew he was in a tight spot and reached out to the only guy he thought he could trust - his oldest friend he had known for 15 years.
15. Matt told Craig he could come to Boston and lay low there while they tried to get them out of the country.
16. Acting on this info, Craig and Kelly drove 3000 miles to what they thought was a safehouse.
17. The feds tracked Craig's cell phone calls to Matt C. and showed up at Matt's house flashing badges and making threats of being an accessory after the fact. It's not hard for the FBI to intimidate an ex-con, drug using and dealing lowlife.
18. Matt told the feds Craig and Kelly were on their way - something confirmed by Craigs continuing calls to Matt.
19. Matt felt so guilty about giving up the duo he couldn't bring himself to answer Craig's calls because he didn't want to lie to his friend's face that he was setting Craig up.
20. In the end, Matt waited until Craig was in Boston to answer Craig's calls and then arranged a meeting place so Craig and Kelly could get taken down.
21. It's obvious Craig was sitting in the pickup waiting on a meeting. Kelly went to the salon so the guys could be alone and talk things over.
22. Craig called Matt C from the parking lot and told him where he was and described his vehicle.
23. The feds moved in and busted Craig and Kelly.
24. Now Matt C. wants you all to believe some complete BS and it looks like Ron and 240 fell for it.
25. Ask yourself if his story makes any sense.
26. For Christ's sake, don't FREAKIN' LIE about it and say "I TRIED TO WARN CRAIG" when all it would have taken would have been to tell Craig while he was en route to say, "Dude, don't bother coming here - the place is crawling with cops." That would have been enough.
27. Fact is, you gave up your best friend. Live with it.
28. And don't say you don't know where Craig is being held because that's more BS. You know exactly where he is and won't go near there because you know Craig knows you set him up and you're the LAST PERSON he'd want to see right now.
There, I said it.
Special "Spade" Ed
I agree with every word !
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if he murdered someone....absolutely. if we were married, well then, one spouse cannot be used to testify against the other, but i would never look at him in the same light again.
dayummmm!! ...... wheres the loyalty!??!?!
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if he murdered someone....absolutely. if we were married, well then, one spouse cannot be used to testify against the other, but i would never look at him in the same light again.
what if he killed someone in self-defense in a bar fight, but the details were sketchy and he could just as easily walk as get 20 to life??
You've said you'll never get married again, so we should infer you would always send mike up the river?
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240 go steal somebody's identity
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what if he killed someone in self-defense in a bar fight, but the details were sketchy and he could just as easily walk as get 20 to life??
You've said you'll never get married again, so we should infer you would always send mike up the river?
lol, he and I just spoke of it. if it were in self defense, no, I would not give him up. If he did it cold blooded...I would and I would expect no less from him (even though he said he would never give me up).
240.. you keeping up on my quotes on marriage? lol
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I can't believe you merged my POST into this thread. Three Questions:
1. Does Matt C. have photos of you in compromising positions with farm animals?
2. Did Matt C. sell you drugs and you don't want to be ratted out next?
3. Why would you publish his lies and hide the truth?
Special "Disgusted" Ed
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this is exactly what i said in my post above, there's no fuckin' way that this pussy ass poser had the nuts to tell the FBI to get fucked, i mean look at him, does he look tough to you? he looks like a fat John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.
LOL fat Travolta. Could be the mirrored shirt! Matt use to work out around here bout 8-10 years ago and was actually a pretty big mo fo - about 250-260 pounds lean - a lot of people thought he was a pro bodybuilder ...maybe because it was known he hung with Titus. He did have pro sized legs, but he always had that "rich kid" look to him and I doubt he would stand up to FBI pressure - especially if they threatened him and he has done time already (thought i read that) Not sure how many people would be loyal to a friend to the point of jeopardising your job and family. .....that said, he could have just lawyered up right away when the Feds got involved . I doubt the "you're the FBI do your own job" words were used
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dayummmm!! ...... wheres the loyalty!??!?!
READ BETWEEN THE LINES . . . She's looking for the ring Mike ;D
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Can you imagine if Ron interviewed Craig and Kelly? The guy throws more softballs than a batting practice pitcher.
Ron: Craig, did you do it?
CT: No man, I had nothing to do with it.
Ron: So what happened?
CT: All of this crap on the internet and television is complete BS.
Ron: Tell us what happened Craig.
CT: We opened our home to this girl who needed a place to stay. She became addicted to drugs and we felt sorry for her. I felt the right thing to do was to send her home to be with her family for the holidays and to get cleaned up. I bought her a plane ticket and booked a hotel for her. Why would I do that for someone I wanted to kill?
Ron: So Kelly, did you kill her?
KR: No man, I had nothing to do with it.
Ron: So what happened?
KR: All of this crap on the internet and television is complete BS.
Ron: Yeah, I know. That's what I've been saying.
KR: We opened our home and hearts to this girl and now everyone thinks we're monsters.
Ron: Well, why did you guys flee to Boston?
KR: We didn't "flee" anywhere. We went on a cross-country road trip to get some quality time together. I read about this great nail salon in Boston and since Craig's best friend lives there, we decided to visit him for a few days.
Ron: That's what I originally said on Getbig. That you guys were on vacation.
KR: You were exactly right, Ron.
Ron: Thanks. So how did Melissa wind up dead.
KR: She had been very depressed lately.
Ron: So you're saying it was a suicide?
KR: Anything is possible.
Ron: Wow, that's astonishing.
CT: Kelly and I are 100% innocent. Remember brother, it's innocent until proven guilty.
Ron: I know Craig. That's what I keep telling people.
CT: Okay brother, we gotta get back to our cells.
Ron: Thanks for the real story Craig and Kelly.
CT: Peace.
KR: Happy Hannukah Ron.
And there you have it. Another groundbreaking Getbig.com interview. But wait. Let's get Ron's expert post-interview analysis:
As I've been saying, we shouldn't rush to conclusions about the case. Craig and Kelly have always been very nice to me. I've known them for years and have never seen them murder anyone. I've never heard any rumors about them strangling people or burning them either, so I think we all need to be patient and wait for the whole story to emerge. Melissa James is the only one who knows what really happened and she can't tell us. Who knows what really happened. Maybe Melissa overdosed on drugs and fell into one of her nylon pantyhose that was hanging up to dry and caught her neck in it and began choking and then ran down the stairs for help and tripped and fell into the trunk of Kelly's Jaguar and died there. Maybe the Jaguar had been giving them problems (they are notoriously unreliable) and Craig decided to torch the vehicle and had no idea that Melissa had OD'ed, strangled herself on her pantyhose, and fallen into the trunk. Folks, anything is possible. As I've said, I've known Craig and Kelly for many years and they never strangled, burned, or killed me, so I think we need to take them at their word.
Special "Ron" Ed
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LOL that was pretty funny ;D, You might get kicked off the board, but it was still funny.
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LOL that was pretty funny ;D, You might get kicked off the board, but it was still funny.
this isn't gayhem