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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Training Logs and Info => Topic started by: tbombz on January 04, 2010, 05:33:16 PM
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im not going to be keeping full details of all of my workouts. but just updating with highlights, personal records, exceptional workouts, weight gains, body fat drops, etc. im too lazy to get a real logbook and brin it with me to the gym, so this is my alternative. :)
current pr's...
bench= 405 and 315x8
deadlift= 545 and 405x8
barbell curls= 135x10
smith machine behind the neck press= 275x10
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good to see you posting here.
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feel free to stop in from time to time with your thoughts
today im going t do shoulders, last week i started wth smith bnp and did my current pr of 275x8... (i miswrote above)... im going t start with it again today and im going to either do more weight or more reps depending on ho light 225 feels... i might try for 315 or i might stick with 275 and try to get 10-12 reps..
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I take it you're not natty anymore?
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good luck. :)
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coltrane- nope
thanks meso
today i did
smith machine BNP
275X12
275X10
275X6
225X12
225X7
upright rows barbell
135X10
185X6
185X5
not sure if i did a third set with 185 or not
135X10
dumbell lateral raise
25lbX5
45lbX6
60lbX6
60lbX6
60lbX6
45lbX8
so new personal record= smith BNP 275lbs X 12 reps
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u never mentioned your bodyweight, height, etc
what are your current goals, and long term goals?
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u never mentioned your bodyweight, height, etc
what are your current goals, and long term goals?
5'11'' 235 fuzzy abs.
current goal is to set a new personal record everytime im in the gym.
long term goal is to be as big and strong as i can possibly get.
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5'11'' 235 fuzzy abs.
current goal is to set a new personal record everytime im in the gym.
long term goal is to be as big and strong as i can possibly get.
wonders of... ummm.. plazmosis? ;D
good luck with your goals. i was under the impression that you wanted to compete.. do you diet down at all, in the middle of the pursuit of teh hugeness?
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wonders of... ummm.. plazmosis? ;D
good luck with your goals. i was under the impression that you wanted to compete.. do you diet down at all, in the middle of the pursuit of teh hugeness?
right now i eat zero carbs and zero fats all day long, just chicken egg whites and veggies. then at about 5 oclock i lift. after i lift i eat whatever my heart desires. this has been working really well to lean me out slowly without hurting strength or muscle mass
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that would be the juice doing that..not the food lol
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that would be the juice doing that..not the food lol
correct.
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that would be the juice doing that..not the food lol
Probably the Slin.
Zero carbs and fats all day and then setting PR's in the gym = Slin. ;D
Good work T.
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Probably the Slin.
Zero carbs and fats all day and then setting PR's in the gym = Slin. ;D
Good work T.
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lol no slin, ive tried it before many times in several different ways and doseages, even tried long acting before. havent gotten much out of it in any form, so i dont use it at all anymore. right now im on test and eq.
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within 2 months i want to have =
600lbs deadlift
405 bench X 3 reps
315 squat X 20 reps
did i mention that i did a 405 dead lift with both hands over hand grip? that was for 6 reps. and i dont use any straps or belt for any movements.
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lol no slin, ive tried it before many times in several different ways and doseages, even tried long acting before. havent gotten much out of it in any form, so i dont use it at all anymore. right now im on test and eq.
Cool deal.
Good luck with your training.
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today i did arms
barbell curls
135lbs X6
135 X6
135X8
135X5
reverse grip barbell curls
115 x 6
115 X 6
1115 x 6
alternating dumb curls
60lbsx6
60x 6
60x6
70x5
60x6
double bicep pulley curls
100lbsx 6 reps x 4 sets
fortriceps i did alot of machine and pulley push downs andpulldowns...i was goign as heavy as i could and failing at about 5-7 reps... i couldnt do any free weight basic exercises cuz i have a fucked up left elbow... its from overhead skull crushers with one dumbell... :-\
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bullshit on the last set of reve-grip bb curls
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right now i eat zero carbs and zero fats all day long, just chicken egg whites and veggies. then at about 5 oclock i lift. after i lift i eat whatever my heart desires. this has been working really well to lean me out slowly without hurting strength or muscle mass
dont forget your carbs and fats up day like this guy :-\
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bullshit on the last set of reve-grip bb curls
i was like ""whaa??" then i checked the number. i turned on my no2 for that set. ;D
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todays chest im going to do flat bench first and do my sets with 315, im going to try for 12 reps on the first set, then 10 reps on the next 3 sets.
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good stuff tbombz, post some pics
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im not sure when but in the upcoming future ill post full body picsfrontand back
today i worked out my chest and my goal was to get a new personal record of 12 reps of 315 bb press but when i tried to i only got 6 reps, which is 2 shy of what i got last wrokout, my personal best, 8 reps with 315. so that was very disaapointing. i still trained as hard as i possibly could and did about 6 sets flat bench, 4 sets smith incline, 3 sets standing machine flys, 2 sets cable crossovers. most of them pushign with full intensity and failing about 5-7 reps.
dissapointing strength, but i worked as hard as i could, and my chest looked really good in the mirror...im leaner than i was befor and my chest looks much better, even though i wasnt lifting heavy i did get pretty pumped just cuzof my effort and intensity i guess..
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more important what you look like.
You should take a new pic with you on that dirt bike. In a thong of course. ;D
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Shoulda stayed natty.
Tortoise vs the hare bombz. Tortoise always wins.
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wont you ever compete tbombz?
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did abs and cardio this morning... fridays are leg day but i almost always wait till saturday to d em and take friday off... idk, i may go bacl later for legs...just depends.
meso ill compete. not yet though. when im ready. i plan on making the first callout, and i want to do a national qualifier. so id like to get better.
coltrane fuck no. i love training but i also love results. ;D
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Results are sweeter when acheived with what God gave you.
You're cheating. That's all i'll say on this topic.
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coltrane if i dont workout guess what happens, i lose muscel. if i workout just a little bit and train like a pussy, guess what? i dont grow muscle.. but when i workout hard and eat consistant ..then i get results... im just guaranteeing myself that if i DO put in the effort, that i WILL get results. that is all. i was natural for 3 years and made tons of progress, but after about 6 months of eating nothign but protein and veggies and still not being rippped(and i wasnt fat at all to begin with), althe while doing am cardio everyday for 45 mins and trainign 7 4-5 days a week intensly......and still no clear lower abs and in a t shirt ih look like a tennis player or golfer?? no see i would like to get a little bit more reward for my effort than that
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coltrane if i dont workout guess what happens, i lose muscel. if i workout just a little bit and train like a pussy, guess what? i dont grow muscle.. but when i workout hard and eat consistant ..then i get results... im just guaranteeing myself that if i DO put in the effort, that i WILL get results. that is all. i was natural for 3 years and made tons of progress, but after about 6 months of eating nothign but protein and veggies and still not being rippped(and i wasnt fat at all to begin with), althe while doing am cardio everyday for 45 mins and trainign 7 4-5 days a week intensly......and still no clear lower abs and in a t shirt ih look like a tennis player or golfer?? no see i would like to get a little bit more reward for my effort than that
Training for 3 years natty prior? You aren't gonna be huge by any means. I've been natty for 17 years now.. and always have been. The first bunch of years there was not a lot of size progress.. but strength. Size comes after years of dedication. You're taking an easy way out I feel.
I discussed going on awhile back with a pro bodybuilder out of ohio. I spoke frank with him about it. I was about 14 years into training, had great size as a natty. He told me that if I go on, i'm not gonna wanna come off and it becomes quite an addicition.
Good luck though. Just thought that with your interest in the game you woulda stayed natty and worked at it for years.
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Training for 3 years natty prior? You aren't gonna be huge by any means. I've been natty for 17 years now.. and always have been. The first bunch of years there was not a lot of size progress.. but strength. Size comes after years of dedication. You're taking an easy way out I feel.
I discussed going on awhile back with a pro bodybuilder out of ohio. I spoke frank with him about it. I was about 14 years into training, had great size as a natty. He told me that if I go on, i'm not gonna wanna come off and it becomes quite an addicition.
Good luck though. Just thought that with your interest in the game you woulda stayed natty and worked at it for years.
yeah but the difference is tbombz wants to compete nationally and you don't...
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Tbombz is a good all around guy, if he wants to take steroids then good for him, i know his smart enough to know how to use them, i would like to see u compete taylor, i know u love bodybuilding heaps, u should atleast try it
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Training for 3 years natty prior? You aren't gonna be huge by any means. I've been natty for 17 years now.. and always have been. The first bunch of years there was not a lot of size progress.. but strength. Size comes after years of dedication. You're taking an easy way out I feel.
I discussed going on awhile back with a pro bodybuilder out of ohio. I spoke frank with him about it. I was about 14 years into training, had great size as a natty. He told me that if I go on, i'm not gonna wanna come off and it becomes quite an addicition.
Good luck though. Just thought that with your interest in the game you woulda stayed natty and worked at it for years.
Personaly I think he should of had 5 years of basic training with good basic compounds like he is doing now but hey its his life let him live it as he chooses.
Also being large and lean if you are not a genetic freak you need to top up your hormones.Natties can get big but they never will be big and lean..Imprssive in shirts etc but when it comes time to show off those musacles you worked hard for you cant see them as they are covered in fat.A lean natty looks like a tennis player like taylor said , why suffer?
As long as he doesnt go nuts with huge doses opening himself up to all types of sides and building a bloated mess of a build then hey go hard Tbombz , you have come along way already, should look impressive once you hit the stage.
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good work taylor, your going to have to come to stockton one of these days so i can put you through a real workout ;)
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im taking today off as well and will do my legs tomorrow. although ill probably do some abs sometime this morning/afternoon.
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good work taylor, your going to have to come to stockton one of these days so i can put you through a real workout ;)
Stockton California? I go there from time to time. I work for Duraflame.
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yep, stockton ca...........i used to train a lady who worked for duraflame. Her name was ginger.
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I don't recall a Ginger, but I work mainly with the quality department. The last time I was there was in August. 100 plus degree weather.
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yeah sure thing ill be coming up there to train whenever you let me know dude! RIGHT NOW I TRAIN
MON- BACK
TUESDAY- SHOULDERS
WEDNESDAY- ARMS
THURSDAY- CHEST
FRIDAY SATURDAY OR SUNDAY- LEGS (THE OTHER TWO ARE OFF)
today i went in and trained legs anyways.
squats 4 sets of ten with wide stance and ass to grass rep range. 225lbs.
machine squats 2 sets of 4 plates a side
leg extension 3/4 stack 4 sets 8 reps
then i did hammies
standing hammie curls full stack 3 sets 7 reps each
adbuctor 50 reps
adductor 50 reps
glute machine 3 sets full stack 8 reps each
seated calf machine 3 sets half stack 8 reps
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I notice your first post lacks a max squat #.
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yeah sure thing ill be coming up there to train whenever you let me know dude! RIGHT NOW I TRAIN
MON- BACK
TUESDAY- SHOULDERS
WEDNESDAY- ARMS
THURSDAY- CHEST
FRIDAY SATURDAY OR SUNDAY- LEGS (THE OTHER TWO ARE OFF)
today i went in and trained legs anyways.
squats 4 sets of ten with wide stance and ass to grass rep range. 225lbs.
machine squats 2 sets of 4 plates a side
leg extension 3/4 stack 4 sets 8 reps
then i did hammies
standing hammie curls full stack 3 sets 7 reps each
adbuctor 50 reps
adductor 50 reps
glute machine 3 sets full stack 8 reps each
seated calf machine 3 sets half stack 8 reps
How do you find your power on chest with training arms (triceps) the day before?
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I notice your first post lacks a max squat #.
probably about 405...ive just started squatting
How do you find your power on chest with training arms (triceps) the day before?
i definitely cant lift as much on chest day if i hit triceps with any intensity the day before. but i can still work out my chest with full intensity and effort even though my triceps cant add much help. the day i got 405 for 1 was a day when i hadnt gotten to workout my arms the day before so my triceps were fresh.
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Don't hit your shoulders and arms the two days before chest bombz.
do this:
chest
back
shoulders
legs
arms.
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Don't hit your shoulders and arms the two days before chest bombz.
do this:
chest
back
shoulders
legs
arms.
that would make sense in the point of view that i need my tris and delts to be fresh to push as much weight as possible, but for me the weight is only a tool to work the muscle. i dont care if im lifting less weight than i usually could if my triceps and shoulders could help more, because the amount of stress on the pecs is the same, if not more, when the tris and shoulders are fatiqued/weakened.
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that would make sense in the point of view that i need my tris and delts to be fresh to push as much weight as possible, but for me the weight is only a tool to work the muscle. i dont care if im lifting less weight than i usually could if my triceps and shoulders could help more, because the amount of stress on the pecs is the same, if not more, when the tris and shoulders are fatiqued/weakened.
So almost like a pre-exhaust?
Don't forget that your tri's and delt's need time to recover too! Don't wanna stunt their growth!
Keep up the intensity bombz!
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i guess it would be the opposite of pre exhaust as traditionally defined. normally pre exhaust means getting a pump in a muscle with an isolation movement before doing a compound movement to try to maximize the recruitment of the target muscle. whereas the pre exhaustion of my tris and delts on previous workouts serves to minimize their involvement. although i didnt set up my routine for that purpouse, it just works out that way.
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yesterday
deadlifts
405X8
405X6
405X5
405X4
pulldowns
fullstack 3 sets of 10
machine pullovers
3/4 stack 10 reps
full stack 5 reps
rope pullovers
3 sets 10
hammer strength med/high rows
3/4 stack 2 sets 8 reps
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smith BNP
225lbs. 5 sets X 10 reps
smith upright rows
135X5
185X5
225X5X2sets
185X10
dumbell side laterals
30lbs 4 sets 10 reps no cheating starting from the side of my leg.
machine press
full stack 2 sets 6 reps
cable rear delts 1 set 30 reps half stack... 3/4 stack X 8 reps.
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nice. 8)
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Can-did, do you workout at the Fit Factory or the other ones in Manteca?
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tbombz have you ever noticed that, when dieting you are actually becoming STRONGER? ive lost more than 10 pounds and im becoming stronger on low carbs... ??? ??? whyh is that?
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Can-did, do you workout at the Fit Factory or the other ones in Manteca?
normally i workout at cali total fitness, been going there for about 6 years now i guess. i used to work at the fit factory location in moesto, and occasionally the manteca trainign studo and supp shop. the guy who owns it is really cool and sometimes lets me come in and use his gym, but normally if i go in there ill just chat for awhile.
meso- i dont know. i think it is a psychological thing. quickerblade touched on this in a thread about cardio on the training board. i think eating tends to make people lazy and less motivated
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I find when I get leaner my squat and deadlift tend to go up but not my bench that just sux all the time :D
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normally i workout at cali total fitness, been going there for about 6 years now i guess. i used to work at the fit factory location in moesto, and occasionally the manteca trainign studo and supp shop. the guy who owns it is really cool and sometimes lets me come in and use his gym, but normally if i go in there ill just chat for awhile.
meso- i dont know. i think it is a psychological thing. quickerblade touched on this in a thread about cardio on the training board. i think eating tends to make people lazy and less motivated
ill check it
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I get that same feeling when i cut carbs... feel stronger.... but it only lasts so long. I think it is just a response to an increase in GH level output of your body.. Decrease carbs and you decrease insulin for a bit... sometimes insulin hampers GH. Just my thought.
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yestereday was arms
machine barbell curls (using pulley)
150lbs 4 sets of 10
rope hammer curls (using pulley)
130lbs 3 sets 8
front double bicep curls on the pulleys 90 lbs on each side for 3 sets of 10
triceps was the same as last week. machine and cable work as hard as i could go failing in 6-10 rep range... i really dont remember everything i did...i know i did cable pushowns... seated tricep extension... reverse cable pushdown... single arm pulldowns with rope
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i have no idea what i did since my last logbook entry but i do remember that while i am looking better than ever, my strength has been suffering, except for arms shoulders and back.
today was back
rack deadlifts
405 10 reps
405 8 reps
405 5 reps
315 8 reps
smith machine barbell rows
225 10 reps
225 10 reps
315 6 reps
225 10 reps
pulldowns
fullstack 8 reps
fullstack 8 reps
machine rows
fullstack 8 reps
pullovers on pulldown machine
80lbs or so 10 reps
machine rows
fullstack 8 reps
pullovers on pulldown machine
80lbs or so 10 reps
mahcine pullovers
fullstack 8 reps
seated cable low pulley rows
3 shy of fullstack 8 reps
fullstack 8 reps
face pulls
3 sets 10 reps about 80lbs
reverse pec dec 3 sets 8 reps 80lbs or so..
seated ab machine twisting to the side 2 sets each side 12 reps
machine hyperextensions fullstack 20 reps 2 sets
decline sit ups
body weight 15 times
body weight 8 times
10 minutes cardio 12 degree incline 2.5mph
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should get some updated pics up in this thing 8)
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maybe soon..
today was shoulders
smith behind neck press
135X4
275X12
275X12
225X15
barbell upright rows
135x10
185x8
135x12
135x12
dumbell side laterals
30lbsx10
40lbsx10
60lbsx8
40lbsx10
sit ups on a sit up bench on a decline
bodyweightx20
bodyweightx12
bodyweight+25lb platex8
bodyweightx12
done
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on wednesday i did arms and i did something like this=
barbell curls 135 4 sets 10
v bar pushdowns 4 sets 8
hammer curls 65lb dumbells..
i forget what i did the rest of the workout.
yesterday, thursday, i did chest. i did flat bench, machine flys, machine flat press(seated), dumbell press, cable crossovers.
my strength on my chest and tricep has been lagging lately alot, i think its because they are my worst body parts (genetically), and ive been doing my no carb no fat daylight diet... but my shoulders back biceps abdominals and every part of my legs are still making strength gains..
heres a new pic i took today
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big shoulders and arms, quads look thick too... your structure looks alot like Cutler when he was a teen
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on wednesday i did arms and i did something like this=
barbell curls 135 4 sets 10
v bar pushdowns 4 sets 8
hammer curls 65lb dumbells..
i forget what i did the rest of the workout.
yesterday, thursday, i did chest. i did flat bench, machine flys, machine flat press(seated), dumbell press, cable crossovers.
my strength on my chest and tricep has been lagging lately alot, i think its because they are my worst body parts (genetically), and ive been doing my no carb no fat daylight diet... but my shoulders back biceps abdominals and every part of my legs are still making strength gains..
heres a new pic i took today
Come along way mate.looking good :)
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today i did legs
front squats on a smith machine with heels raised up on 5lb plates
225x10 for 4 sets
standing hammy curls one leg at a time
full stack 7reps for 4 sets
leg extensions
7/8th stack one leg at a time 8 reps 3 sets
aductor/abductor
super set 130lbs each 2 times each 20 reps each set
lying hamstring curl one leg at a time
120lbs 3 sets each leg 10 reps
superset calf raises and hamstring curls for two sets each. forget the weight.
10 minutes stationary bike level 8
10 minutes walking 2.5mph 15 degree incline
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i havent posted a log in a while! ugh ive been busy lately. school mon-thurs 8-220 and i have to take my gf with me so i have to pick her up before hand, then after school i take her home to my house then take her to work at 5. i train eat and shower between 5 and 8 when she gets off, after that we may watch a little bit of tv then i have to take her home around 10. thats my days lately...
buti do recall that i keep gettign stronger and stronger, in every area except my chest! lol. my chest is getting really weak. but its looking better than ever. so im okay with it, sorta.
today i did legs
sqats 225 4 sets 10
front squats smith machine 4 sets 10 225
leg extensions 110lbs one leg at a time 4 sets each leg 8 reps per set
standing hammie curls full stack 4 sets 8
aductor abductor super set 3 sets each 130lbs 15 reps each set
seated calf machine 2 plates one leg ata time 3 sets each leg 10 reps
lying hammie curls 100lbs one leg at a time 4 sets 10 reps each
machine power squuats 2 plates a side 2 sets 8 reps each
glute machine one leg at a time 100lbs 2 sets 8 reps each
5 minutes walking on a 14 degree incline at 2.5mph
i felt like i was going to passout... the top of my skull was pulsing..lol
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Off day! ;D Tomorrow starts February. Another month gone. Bye Bye January 2010.
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Looking pretty good in that pic you posted. Good job.
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thanks chemist :)
i have been training, i just havent been filling in my logbook.
some numbers from this last week of lifting:
smith machine barbell rows with 315lbs 10 reps(some cheating(swaying) on the last 3-4 reps.
smith machine behind the neck press 275lbs 12 reps X 3 sets. (below the ear, above the head)
barbell curls 135lbs 4 sets of 10 (some cheating on the second and third sets, but first and fourth set were perfect form..last few reps of fourth set i did use a bit of momentum)
chest and triceps are not making any strength progress, but are looking fuller and leaner.
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yesterday was backl
smith machine barbell rows
315X10
315X8
316X8
225X12
225X12
double handed rope pullovers straight arm/elbows locked on the pulley
forget the weight but 3 sets moderate weight, squeezing the muscles... just trying to get blood into my back and outa my biceps... cuz the hevay rrows taxed the bi's a little bit..and when i go to my next movement i wanna be able to focus on the lats without having pumpeed bi's..
seated low rows on ther pulley, wide grip attachemtn palms facing each other
full stack of weight, 2 sets for 8 reps each
double handed rope pullovers straight arm/elbows locked on the pulley
2 or 3 more sets of squeezing
smith machine barbell rows
3 sets of 10 with 225
pulldowns
2 or 3 sets, light weight... wasnt really feeling it at this point, so i cut it quick
i feel like im leaving something out but thats all i remember doing.
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yesterday was shoulders
behind neck press smith machine
135
225
275
295X8
295X8
275X15
275X12
275X12
225X15
urpight rows
135X10
185X8
185X8
185X8
135X15
standing side laterals
40lbs 3 sets 8
upright rows
135X8
185X5
185X4
135X10
seated machine military...3/4 stack.. 3 sets 10
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hey man
weigh about 213 right now ( at 5'8 " )
bench personal best is 405x3 can do 315x13 if i go for reps
lets see,,what else,,,deadlift im right there with you,,,shoulders, squats, pretty much everything else
one thing you dont ever talk about is WARMING UP
my split is chest back legs shoulders arms
i can't help but think you would see some improvements if you ramped up on your lifts
for bench press i do the bar x 12, 135x 15 225 x 15 315 x 8 365 x 5 then MAYBE i do more weight,,if not then one more set, and i do this on all the compound movements...
try it?
you dont' have to do the heaviest weight you can do every time you go in the gym, its bad for your joints and connective tissue
if you are getting in the 3-5 rep range,,,that is heavy weight, just not good on the body to do that week in and week out
lee haney - stimulate, don't annihilate
strong guy tho!
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:)
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UP THE DOSE
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:)
looking good my friend.
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thanks quickman.. far from where i started, even farther from where i wanna be
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sup tbombz your a strong mofo and your making good progress man,
whats your current stack like?
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sup tbombz your a strong mofo and your making good progress man,
whats your current stack like?
thanks man im making much better progress lately.. spending alot more time in the tgym.. right now im on 750mgs test e
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thanks man im making much better progress lately.. spending alot more time in the tgym.. right now im on 750mgs test e
Go natural dammit. You'll thank me about 10 years from now.
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Go natural dammit. You'll thank me about 10 years from now.
why is that coltrane? you look great but you still look like a normal dude, unless yoru shirts off and your flexing.. then you just look athletic and lean.
me.. i have a certain condition... i absolutely hate the look of my body.. and its for two reason.. the first one: lack of muscle.. second one: lack of detail to the muscle
i flex and pose in the mirror to my disgust.. and for this reason, combined with the fact that consistant intense trianing and good diet never gained me any appreciable muscle..
see i need my muscles to be absolutely massive
but to me, they wouldnt be massive, they would just be big enough to be clearly visible..
you see pictures of pro bodybuilders? they are clearly muscular, developed, detailed muscles everywhere on their body. no doubt about the fact they lift weights consistantly and with intensity.
i lift to make my muscles big and obvious...
to me, even at my current 230lbs and visible top row of abs.. i feel very small and under developed..
i dont think you get it.. the "bodybuilder mentality"
pretty sure it stems from a mild case of Body dysmorphic disorder... i do have other symptoms besides muscle dysmoprhia... like hatred of my face, feelings of guilt for being too ugly.. etc...
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oh believe me.. i get the "bodybuilder mentality" tbombz. I'm 32 and be doing it since 14.. that is, lifting naturally.
You seem to not have the patients for natural gain. I can understand that. But in the long run you're gonna do more harm than good to yourself. And for what? To look built (which you COULD look if you trained naturally).
I train natural and believe me, i look built. Most think I am on.. and i've got a better build than mostly everyone in my gym.. even the juicers.
Why? Bc i've been consistent over the years. I haven't had the "time off" from gear that is need with juicing, so I haven't had to "lose" anything. It's just steady progress..always. Tortoise vs the hare thing.
Maybe seek a psychologist if you have a body image problem..
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problem solved: I dont take time off :)
anyways, when i was a natural, alot of people thought i was juicing. not because i looked like a bodybuilder, but because i was more muscular than pretty much every guy in my high school and gym... and i was only 17-18 years old.. and had been very fat wityh no muscle just a couple years before. i had several people ask me if i was jusing.. people always talking to me about training.. all the dudes in the gym would watch me workout. i wasnt huge! but i was more muscular than most of them.
i dont doubt your one of the best built guys around. i was one of the best built guys after a few years of very intense and dedicated natural workouts.
i do doubt that you look anything like a bodybuilder.. well i dont doubt it i know it. not to say you dont look good dude! you do.. you look awesome. but looking awesome and looking like a bodybuilder are two very different things.
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Man dude.. be careful re not going off.
Hopefully you at least talk w a doc about this. Remember, there is a doctor/patient priviledge where he has to keep whatever you tell him to himself. So be upfront and honest with him.
Good luck bombz.
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i keep the doseage low brotha! i focus on hard work.
in fact i think coming off is more unhealthy than staying on. its more steady and even. youl find alot of endocrinologists and seasoned vets who agree with this idea.
i have a very good doctor who i talked to multiple times about roids.. he has done blood tests before for me.. and other things as well