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So I heard from a fairly reliable source, who used to discuss dosages with him, that the infamous Zyzz was running 250mg Tren ace DAILY when he was at his largest...
(http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=zyzz&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1266&bih=455&tbm=isch&tbnid=7LHh13m4BHdxqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html&docid=GVdb3osW6X4h4M&imgurl=http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4-2.jpg&w=610&h=429&ei=idyzTtyFK8jg8AP09rXyBA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=685&sig=118137500191606213084&page=1&tbnh=121&tbnw=161&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=127&ty=93)
Thoughts?
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Too much Tren turns you yellow and into a Frog?
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(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leczie28z21qdlkgg.gif)
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That's insane for a guy his size. My heart would blow up.
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its possible.. his brother ran insulin for a couple of months . And OP fyi hotlinking is disabled for imageshack. Attach images to your post
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First post, yellow frog? Three strikes, you're out.
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So I heard from a fairly reliable source, who used to discuss dosages with him, that the infamous Zyzz was running 250mg Tren ace DAILY when he was at his largest...
(http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=zyzz&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1266&bih=455&tbm=isch&tbnid=7LHh13m4BHdxqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html&docid=GVdb3osW6X4h4M&imgurl=http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4-2.jpg&w=610&h=429&ei=idyzTtyFK8jg8AP09rXyBA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=685&sig=118137500191606213084&page=1&tbnh=121&tbnw=161&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=127&ty=93)
Thoughts?
must have got his advice from GH15. JK. although GH15 says you can safely run Tren or 6-12 months. with no spike in blood pressure. and the HGH should cure the trensomnia. not so sure about all of what GH15 claims. he even tells first time gear users to us tren wich I dont think is a good idea but hell what do I know.
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wtf? he wasn't even that big. 6'1 215lbs when he died or something like that
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No side effects a couple of grams of coke a day can't adjust he guessed.
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the "Zyzz" character is dead
the guy who played "Zyzz" is still alive though
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the "Zyzz" character is dead
the guy who played "Zyzz" is still alive though
You're confusing with Elvis.
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wtf? he wasn't even that big. 6'1 215lbs when he died or something like that
He went from 140lbs to 215lbs in 4 years so while he wasn't that big when he died he made good progress and stayed lean (around 7%).
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the "Zyzz" character is dead
the guy who played "Zyzz" is still alive though
I think he is actually dead JNN, I literally spent about 4 hours one day looking at all the info posted on other boards etc. Some guys spent weeks researching him and posted what they found, some knew his brother Chestbraah as well.
What I think happened was he died but all his close friends/brother/Alki David thought it was hoax at first, this then fuelled the rumour of the hoax theory that everyone else jumped on.
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That's insane for a guy his size. My heart would blow up.
That's what his one did :D
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That's what his one did :D
LOL
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so that guy was 6'1" 220lbs ripped i heard
true?
pretty damn good size for club guido
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I thought he was like 5'8 5'9 180 pounds.
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So I heard from a fairly reliable source, who used to discuss dosages with him, that the infamous Zyzz was running 250mg Tren ace DAILY when he was at his largest...
(http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=zyzz&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1266&bih=455&tbm=isch&tbnid=7LHh13m4BHdxqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html&docid=GVdb3osW6X4h4M&imgurl=http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4-2.jpg&w=610&h=429&ei=idyzTtyFK8jg8AP09rXyBA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=685&sig=118137500191606213084&page=1&tbnh=121&tbnw=161&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=127&ty=93)
Thoughts?
Thoughts from a "fairly reliable source''
.....yeah cuz all steroid dealers are truthfull and reliable ::)
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I thought he was like 5'8 5'9 180 pounds.
pretty tall bloke, unless all the other guys in the pics were 5'5", he was 6'1".
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Wonder if he used GH to.... pretty sure his brother 'chestbrah' is now...
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generation nothingness
totally fucking empty
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NO WAY was the guy 215 at his level of lean-ness, even at 6'1"
He wasn't "big" - had a nice aesthetic build only..
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So I heard from a fairly reliable source, who used to discuss dosages with him, that the infamous Zyzz was running 250mg Tren ace DAILY when he was at his largest...
(http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=zyzz&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1266&bih=455&tbm=isch&tbnid=7LHh13m4BHdxqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html&docid=GVdb3osW6X4h4M&imgurl=http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4-2.jpg&w=610&h=429&ei=idyzTtyFK8jg8AP09rXyBA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=685&sig=118137500191606213084&page=1&tbnh=121&tbnw=161&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=127&ty=93)
Thoughts?
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That actually wouldn't shock me. Think about it, what else if anything was he doing with it? thats 1,750 mg's week of Tren... if you ran that and not much else at his size, you would probably look like him. Lean, with a little size, and ripped.
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small back, small arms, who cares?
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must have got his advice from GH15. JK. although GH15 says you can safely run Tren or 6-12 months. with no spike in blood pressure. and the HGH should cure the trensomnia. not so sure about all of what GH15 claims. he even tells first time gear users to us tren wich I dont think is a good idea but hell what do I know.
Well he also explain the diff between use and abuse and in this case it's abuse
the BP and health issues wont occur if:
- you are perfectly healthy from start point (i would add no health problems in the family)
- if you are using legit product
(according to him)
you stated yourself what Lee Haney used, he is still with us and im sure he has no pissoir health genetics that can handle anything, he just was healthy from the start point.
put all AAS aside for a moment and don't forget that this kid worked as stripper,
he used to party on weekly basis
went to all the big raves
was known, than admitted and even filmed taking rec drugs (mdma and such)
now combine AAS abuse with rec drug abuse with possibly health problems from birth (as his mom claims) and only than you might get to the end point - death
i say 'might' because his brother probably didn't do any less than him.
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i think he would loose all his hair running 250 tren A a day :))) unless he was wearing a wig :)))
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i dont feel bad for him all of a sudden
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small back, small arms, who cares?
No legs.
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(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leczie28z21qdlkgg.gif)
;D
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I got a similiar result being natural . Clear I have a better genetic but I dont think he take 250mg daily wtf that's a pro dose
8) No one more ripped than me
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What a pussy pulling physique 8) ;D
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What a pussy pulling physique 8) ;D
are you a swimmer ?
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No legs.
is this you ::)
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dude aint even big
ripped, nice calvin klein, amberkrombie fitch bottom twink look
seems like an attention whore/doosh
so what did this great contributor die from anyway
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is this you ::)
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Yes. Yes it is.
You miring brah?
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is this you ::)
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She is a screamer and a whimperer.
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That's what his one did :D
ahahahah, beat me to it.
That's exactly what happened.
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zyzz was bigger then a lot of these perma bulkers walking around at 5-6% always is a pretty hard feat. I knew nothing of him before seeing him on here but he would do well in local bodybuilding contests and if he was 10% would prolly weigh 230-240 which is prowrestler size. Im just calling it like i see it even gh15 says 210 5% is no easy feat and damn sure cant be done natural many guys think you could look like zyzz natural they are fools. zyzz bulked up would be bigger then the majority of steroid users
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zyzz has the best body ever fo getting pussy
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zyzz has had the best body ever fo getting pussy
fixed
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Hes dead you idiots claiming otherwise
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No legs.
His legs weren't that bad:
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Hes dead you idiots claiming otherwise
"You mournin', bro?"
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What a pussy pulling physique 8) ;D
Uh dude you got a good build but Zyzz shits all over u
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/7/1/7120a_ORIG-zyzz.jpg)
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What a pussy pulling physique 8) ;D
i looked like that (with smaller chest, but with smaller waist also) when i started lifting
pussy pulling what? girls dwarf you left and right tho...
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i looked like that (with smaller chest, but with smaller waist also) when i started lifting
pussy pulling what? girls dwarf you left and right tho...
Where do you live, New Zealand?
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zyzz was bigger then a lot of these perma bulkers walking around at 5-6% always is a pretty hard feat. I knew nothing of him before seeing him on here but he would do well in local bodybuilding contests and if he was 10% would prolly weigh 230-240 which is prowrestler size. Im just calling it like i see it even gh15 says 210 5% is no easy feat and damn sure cant be done natural many guys think you could look like zyzz natural they are fools. zyzz bulked up would be bigger then the majority of steroid users
Bingo, he carries very good mass, excellent quality and maturity for his age, great proportions and is ripped. I remember dieting down the first time i was a bit shattered at what size i had to lose to get the abs out.
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Where do you live, New Zealand?
No, why?
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Uh dude you got a good build but Zyzz shits all over u
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/7/1/7120a_ORIG-zyzz.jpg)
YES!!!!!! finally another guy with the extreme narrow shoulder syndrome
LOL I bet all the roids in the world couldn't make him look big in a jacket
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His legs weren't that bad:
They're ok. Just too small for his body.
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i think he would loose all his hair running 250 tren A a day :))) unless he was wearing a wig :)))
Hairloss is genetic. If you are prone to hairloss then the steroids are just going to speed it up / make it worse , but some people can take whatever they want and still have a full head of of hair.
Also Trenbolone is a 19-nor steroid similar to nandrolone and therefore does not convert to di-hydro-testosterone (pretty much the most androgenic steroid there is and number one reason for hairloss) and also has very low androgenic properties itself - in contrast to what a lot of people claim. It is far less androgenic than you'd might think but it certainly does have some very unique effects that usually only very androgenic steroids have (fat-loss , strength gain ..). Common androgenic side-effects such as hairloss , prostate enlargement , acne, virilization (in women) ... usually are very mild when using trenbolone.
I got no idea why it works the way it does (very different from nandrolone) but I never ever haid hairloss problems with trenbolone while on test or drostanolone its very bad.
And also to the permabulkers saying that ZyyzzzzZzz is a twink ... LOL , he is more muscular than 95% of this board ...
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He wasn't on that much tren you fucks. He was candid about his PED usage and actually did just cycle the shit. He twinked out between cycles add evident in all his pictures.
The kid was a God. Hated him at first but he grows on you. Way better looking than the fatasses here who'd wither if they dieted down. RIP, Zyzz. You crazy girl.
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He wasn't on that much tren you fucks. He was candid about his PED usage and actually did just cycle the shit. He twinked out between cycles add evident in all his pictures.
The kid was a God. Hated him at first but he grows on you. Way better looking than the fatasses here who'd wither if they dieted down. RIP, Zyzz. You crazy #girl.
Cycle what? just check out his brother's FB
both without drugs = 140lb at most
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Cycle what? just check out his brother's FB
both without drugs = 140lb at most
post pic
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He wasn't on that much tren you fucks. He was candid about his PED usage and actually did just cycle the shit. He twinked out between cycles add evident in all his pictures.
The kid was a God. Hated him at first but he grows on you. Way better looking than the fatasses here who'd wither if they dieted down. RIP, Zyzz. You crazy #girl.
a God..ohh brother ???
all that is wrong with the internet age
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post pic
(http://i.imgur.com/IbkTP.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/IbkTP.jpg)
Dude looks good but has ruined it with the delt upper arm tat , if going to get them just do 1/2 sleeves on forearms , otherwise it kills all the hard work in the gym
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Dude looks good but has ruined it with the delt upper arm tat , if going to get them just do 1/2 sleeves on forearms , otherwise it kills all the hard work in the gym
i dont know this douche, but it seems he's not into bodybuilding for the sake of building muscle and pushing yourself to the limit.. he is in it for the pussy, and chicks dig that kinda shit...yeah it covers all his muscles, but he probably doesnt even care...
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Looked great - somewhat a waste of drugs, but at least he it short and sweet.
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That actually wouldn't shock me. Think about it, what else if anything was he doing with it? thats 1,750 mg's week of Tren... if you ran that and not much else at his size, you would probably look like him. Lean, with a little size, and ripped.
THIS IS WHERE MG DOESNT COUNT. GOTTA KNOW THE SOURCE. 1750MG WEEK OF STRANGO TREN VS. GENERIC TREN...BIG DIFFERENCE.
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zyzz was bigger then a lot of these perma bulkers walking around at 5-6% always is a pretty hard feat. I knew nothing of him before seeing him on here but he would do well in local bodybuilding contests and if he was 10% would prolly weigh 230-240 which is prowrestler size. Im just calling it like i see it even gh15 says 210 5% is no easy feat and damn sure cant be done natural many guys think you could look like zyzz natural they are fools. zyzz bulked up would be bigger then the majority of steroid users
Yeah that's IF zyzz was 210 at 5%, but unfortunately he was Not.
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Hairloss is genetic. If you are prone to hairloss then the steroids are just going to speed it up / make it worse , but some people can take whatever they want and still have a full head of of hair.
Also Trenbolone is a 19-nor steroid similar to nandrolone and therefore does not convert to di-hydro-testosterone (pretty much the most androgenic steroid there is and number one reason for hairloss) and also has very low androgenic properties itself - in contrast to what a lot of people claim. It is far less androgenic than you'd might think but it certainly does have some very unique effects that usually only very androgenic steroids have (fat-loss , strength gain ..). Common androgenic side-effects such as hairloss , prostate enlargement , acne, virilization (in women) ... usually are very mild when using trenbolone.
I got no idea why it works the way it does (very different from nandrolone) but I never ever haid hairloss problems with trenbolone while on test or drostanolone its very bad.
And also to the permabulkers saying that ZyyzzzzZzz is a twink ... LOL , he is more muscular than 95% of this board ...
tren is as androgenic as they come and one of the worst for the hair because its so androgenic
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Yeah that's IF zyzz was 210 at 5%, but unfortunately he was Not.
Agreed there is no way this guy was more than 185, to skinny and waist is way to small
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he was 6'2. for his height his build was ok considering he'd only been lifting for 2 years. like most ectos, he wasn't a great responder and also obviously didn't train very hard, choosing instead to do tons of partying. looked like a "model" which was all he was going for anyways and also he's dead as hell so i don't see what it mattered in the end.
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he was 6'2. for his height his build was ok considering he'd only been lifting for 2 years. like most ectos, he wasn't a great responder and also obviously didn't train very hard, choosing instead to do tons of partying. looked like a "model" which was all he was going for anyways and also he's dead as hell so i don't see what it mattered in the end.
Oh I totally agree that he looked great, very aesthetic and had some size...just disputing the few who claim he was very big, carried lots of muscle, etc. One guy here said at 10% bf he'd be 230-240 lol, even at 6'2" that would not be possible based on his pictures.
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Oh I totally agree that he looked great, very aesthetic and had some size...just disputing the few who claim he was very big, carried lots of muscle, etc. One guy here said at 10% bf he'd be 230-240 lol, even at 6'2" that would not be possible based on his pictures.
Agreed he was 190 tops. His waist is absolutely tiny. He has a little frame.
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considering his bodyfat % he was much much bigger than 99% of this board, most of you are extreme fatties that confuse all of your fat for "size"
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considering his bodyfat % he was much much bigger than 99% of this board, most of you are extreme fatties that confuse all of your fat for "size"
No he was not, guys like BigGher, Rearden Metal, Onetimehard, etc. you can say bigger than 95-99% of the board. Zyzz? Maye bigger than 70% of the board.
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No he was not, guys like BigGher, Rearden Metal, Onetimehard, etc. you can say bigger than 95-99% of the board. Zyzz? Maye bigger than 70% of the board.
In fact I think you look way better than zyz. I don't what is all that fuss about. He was average gymrat. Nothing more, nothing less. To look like that all it takes is some vinny and prop. I know guys who look pretty much same on 100mg prop eod and 40mg winstrol ed.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38779_114817375235131_100001206080055_110563_3731355_n.jpg)
In terms of aesthetics he kills zyz lol.
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he really died? of what?
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In fact I think you look way better than zyz. I don't what is all that fuss about. He was average gymrat. Nothing more, nothing less. To look like that all it takes is some vinny and prop. I know guys who look pretty much same on 100mg prop eod and 40mg winstrol ed.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38779_114817375235131_100001206080055_110563_3731355_n.jpg)
In terms of aesthetics he kills zyz lol.
Thanks man, I think I'm comparable to zyzz overall, some may say a bit better some may say a bit worse, either is a fair comment I think. Although the nuthuggers do get very aggressive towards me when I say that lol.
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He was big enough. And what's most important (a druggie or not) - he had a QUALITY look to his physique, the "Sculpted" lines and a good frame.
(http://i4.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0129/98/90cb7245d3a20b72d265d744c61f2a98.jpg). Many many guys can be way bigger and just won't look like that..
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He was big enough. And what's most important (a druggie or not) - he had a QUALITY look to his physique, the "Sculpted" lines and a good frame.
And no one's disputing that. Just disputing the guy claims that he's bigger than 99% of the board, 215 @ 5% bodyfat, etc.
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no way hes running 250mg ed tren.
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he really died? of what?
Google "Mr Hands"
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And no one's disputing that. Just disputing the guy claims that he's bigger than 99% of the board, 215 @ 5% bodyfat, etc.
I don't know whether he'd be bigger, but the weight isn't out of the world at all. I'm close to his height, weight about 225 atm and of a similar size, 10lb less and I'd be somewhat in a similar condition too..
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Google "Mr Hands"
ahahahahaha i just did. you sick fuck.
:D
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ahahahahaha i just did. you sick fuck.
:D
Took it like a trooper hahaha ;D
Makes you think WTF goes through peoples heads to do stuff like that :-\
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he really died? of what?
tren clen and cocaine. bad combo
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no way hes running 250mg ed tren.
whhy?
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Why has no one mentioned the fact he had an unknown pre-existing heart condition?
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nobody runs 250mg. of legit Tren ace a day, youd be swimming in your own sweat when you tried to sleep and beating the shit out of the mailman when he delivered your Home Depot monthly bill.
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Why has no one mentioned the fact he had an unknown pre-existing heart condition?
cuz it seems like a bullshit cover-up
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take a look at the beach pic if u think he was tiny, 200 lbs easy, his frame was big, his waist looks small but it's only small compared to his shoulders, his waist looks about 32-34 inches to my eye
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LOL at people who don't think he was above 200 lbs.
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Why has no one mentioned the fact he had an unknown pre-existing heart condition?
because he ran clen, tren and whatever other drugs he took at raves. clen alone gives people enlarged hearts and horrible heart issues when it's used at reasonable dosages and this kid was abusing clen and all other drugs like there was no tomorrow.
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Google "Mr Hands"
LOL
(http://robertsaucedo.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/mrhands.jpg)
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looks like a fag
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no way hes running 250mg ed tren.
he was. you used to be able to find what cycles he talked about doing in google, i dont know if you still can but he ran dumb dosages of gear
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look at zyzz next to other people, he is a very big guy, also his waist may be bigger than 34... 34-36 somewhere around there
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looks like a fag
consequently, you wish you could look like as much of a fag as him
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consequently, you wish you could look like as much of a fag as him
no, and I don't understand what the big deal is with this guy.
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no, and I don't understand what the big deal is with this guy.
post a face pic "brah"
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LOL at people who don't think he was above 200 lbs.
If he was 6'2" he was 200lbs easy. I was 210 lean without even training legs my first three years of training. No drugs either. 205-210 is actually pretty lanky on a 6'2" frame . Sorry to burst the bubble of you midgets out there. God being tall rules LOL!
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no, and I don't understand what the big deal is with this guy.
you really can't seem to figure out why the normal non-bodybuilding people would consider his physique as the most ideal physique?
regardless of how gay you think he was or wish he was, he did have amazing genetics for a v-taper
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you really can't seem to figure out why the normal non-bodybuilding people would consider his physique as the most ideal physique?
regardless of how gay you think he was or wish he was, he did have amazing genetics for a v-taper
No doubt chicks arent looking for 15% bf perma-bulkers. And no matter what anyone on here says, yes part of the reason we lift is to impress women. "Come at me bro!"
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whhy?
you'd see it in his physique. i can believe 100mg ed for him (maybe), but no way hes touching 250mg ed- either hes full of shit, or he has the worse genetics in the world.
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In Zyzz we trust brah.
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LOL at people who don't think he was above 200 lbs.
Yup, have seen those pics and it does not change my mind at all. He has a small waist and small frame - guys like that always look bigger than they actually weigh when lean.
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Yup, have seen those pics and it does not change my mind at all. He has a small waist and small frame - guys like that always look bigger than they actually weigh when lean.
Not when you're over 6ft tall
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Yup, have seen those pics and it does not change my mind at all. He has a small waist and small frame - guys like that always look bigger than they actually weigh when lean.
look at his pic on the beach, he's standing next to a guy on steroids with a normal frame... 250 e0d means 125 ed, not so much different than 100ed which no one gave him redit for... whatever dude was huge and took a lot of steroids, big big dude 4 sure, bigger than no one himself. Odesn't look it because he has no chest thickness.. bit zyzz was a big guy
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Yup, have seen those pics and it does not change my mind at all. He has a small waist and small frame - guys like that always look bigger than they actually weigh when lean.
After watching that vid someone posted, I agree 100%. Skinny if anything. He didn't look like anything special there. Pics can be manipulated like crazy. He was probably in the 190's if he is that tall based on that vid.
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look at his pic on the beach, he's standing next to a guy on steroids with a normal frame... 250 e0d means 125 ed, not so much different than 100ed which no one gave him redit for... whatever dude was huge and took a lot of steroids, big big dude 4 sure, bigger than no one himself. Odesn't look it because he has no chest thickness.. bit zyzz was a big guy
his beach pic does look bigger than his others, everyone has 1-2 pics which are their best or look their biggest. I'm going by most of his pics which have posted, and sorry he is NOT bigger than 99% of getbiggers, not even close. Aesthetic, good build - yes...but let's not get carried away lol. He may be 200 tops or close to it at his biggest, but the claim I read earlier was 215 at 6'1" and that's grossly exaggerated.
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the amount of lean muscle on him is probably more than the amount of lean muscle that 90%+ of getbiggers carry... I can see this being true. Not trying ride he guys jock here, he had a sick frame and used a lot of tren... and that's what it got him
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his beach pic does look bigger than his others, everyone has 1-2 pics which are their best or look their biggest. I'm going by most of his pics which have posted, and sorry he is NOT bigger than 99% of getbiggers, not even close. Aesthetic, good build - yes...but let's not get carried away lol. He may be 200 tops or close to it at his biggest, but the claim I read earlier was 215 at 6'1" and that's grossly exaggerated.
just take a look at his pics with anothe rperson next to him, he looks normal by himself but again dude was wide as a truck. I am similar in that I have a small waist and am small in general, but if I am in the back seat with three other people, they are being squished against the windows, some people are born this way
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because he ran clen, tren and whatever other drugs he took at raves. clen alone gives people enlarged hearts and horrible heart issues when it's used at reasonable dosages and this kid was abusing clen and all other drugs like there was no tomorrow.
so do a lot of people. of course it's not healthy but we don't know the extent to which he ran all those things, do we? We have no idea how much drugs he took and how often. Fact is, if he didn't have the heart condition, he would be alive
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just take a look at his pics with anothe rperson next to him, he looks normal by himself but again dude was wide as a truck. I am similar in that I have a small waist and am small in general, but if I am in the back seat with three other people, they are being squished against the windows, some people are born this way
you're a fucking Twig. ..shut the fuck up.
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you're a fucking Twig. ..shut the fuck up.
Apply85 will own the shit out of you drug addict.
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Apply85 will own the shit out of you drug addict.
another twig who barely breaks the 200 pound mark..get some muscle first then come talk to me, twiggie..
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another twig who barely breaks the 200 pound mark..get some muscle first then come talk to me, twiggie..
I am 6'2" you guido midget. I was over 200lbs when I was in high school. How's the weather down there?
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I am 6'2" you guido midget. I was over 200lbs when I was in high school. How's the weather down there?
yeah and a MMA champ as well, let me guess you bench 600 pounds too..pics or never happened ,fatty..
rofl, im 5'10 -5'11 on any day.
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yeah and a MMA champ as well, let me guess you bench 600 pouns too..pics or never happened ,fatty
Naw but I dunk a basketball. Bench is shitty with my long arms. ;D Just fuggin around anyhow. ;D
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Naw but I dunk a basketball. Bench is shitty with my long arms. ;D Just fuggin around anyhow. ;D
3 point shooter over here... actually i fucking hate basketball.
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3 point shooter over here... actually i fucking hate basketball.
No more b-ball for me anymore. My ankles are smoked, prob rolled them 100 times. When I rotate the left one , all you here is crunching
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i became a lazy assed bbuilder after fuckling the ACLS (right knee) playing college baseball. ..not too brag but i was a pretty good baseball player. ..traded the gloves , bats for pins and juice. ;D
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(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/08/11/1226112/927954-zyzz.jpg)
Here's a good pic to illustrate... you see zyzz's waist isn't realy small, not compared to another juicer of similar size, but it's the shape and conditioning that makes it look small, plus he has more mass around the shoulder/trap area than most other bbers proportionately. Also the way he poses, pulling his shoulders down to highlight his traps... this actually makes him look les wide becuase it hides his lats and takes away from his v taper, i do the same thing... all right enough of this im gonna go touch a woman to ungay myself
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Ziggy or wahtever the fuck he names was (rip btw) did have a small waist , it looked wider because mofo had no legs and was very narrow ...the guy , genetically is bony as fuck..the juice he was on made it look somewhat decent in your terms..to me he looked like shit but i understand where you teens aka Twilight fans come from.
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the waist is 34-36 inches around, it is almost arnold size, that's that
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really? fuck ,then he was pretty tall..it doesnt look to wide to me...like i isaid he had no leg mass so makes it look even wider.
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in the pic I posted it also looks like he was clean for a little while, looking soft, and look at his clavicles, they point down. Try to make ur clavicles point down, that is the pose he took every time, it makes the traps look a certain way and shoulders look a certain way, but it makes u appear less thick... dude was born thick, he was skinny as a youngster because he didnt eat but he has genes for width
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Uh dude you got a good build but Zyzz shits all over u
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/7/1/7120a_ORIG-zyzz.jpg)
Why doesn't this chick get a boob job? She is sort of pretty.
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(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/08/11/1226112/927954-zyzz.jpg)
;D ;D 2 high school wrestlers walking on the beach.
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lol haters gonna hate... I hated Zyzz at first, but the guy was hilarious. Took everything lightly, slammed vag 24/7 and lived the life (until he pushed it over the edge).
Nevertheless, the kid lived more in his short life than most of you guys put together. And there's no shame in that either. Still owning people even when he's 6 feet under.
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lol @ arguing over measurements/weight and how much tren some dead fella took - I know how boutz you ask him hahahaha :D
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his beach pic does look bigger than his others, everyone has 1-2 pics which are their best or look their biggest. I'm going by most of his pics which have posted, and sorry he is NOT bigger than 99% of getbiggers, not even close. Aesthetic, good build - yes...but let's not get carried away lol. He may be 200 tops or close to it at his biggest, but the claim I read earlier was 215 at 6'1" and that's grossly exaggerated.
There were only 1-2 pics of him at that big which was close to his death. The beach pics he was 190 or so according to himself, he never exaggerated his weight and was always saying he wanted to put on more size. Lot of people are mixing up pics from 1-2 years ago where he wasn't at his biggest.
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so do a lot of people. of course it's not healthy but we don't know the extent to which he ran all those things, do we? We have no idea how much drugs he took and how often. Fact is, if he didn't have the heart condition, he would be alive
and a lot of people die from them, just like zyzz did. he used to post about what he ran, you can probably find it in google if you care enough for the specifics but he abused clen and tren, and you're fooling yourself if you don't think abusing aas AND clen isn't going to give you heart issues on top of recreational drugs. i mean really dude? come on.
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Some of you guys underestimate height a lot. 200 on a 6'2 frame is nothing, really. 215-220 and it's about Zyzz size, if condition is the same and bones on a small side (which are responsible for his small waist and "aesthetics". I have a tiny waist myself either, and I'm ~225, so I know how it goes..)..
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200, 6'2" = 5'10", 172 lbs. This is within the natural range, for fuck's sake. Zyzz must have been ATLEAST 210 lbs at his height.
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lol haters gonna hate... I hated Zyzz at first, but the guy was hilarious. Took everything lightly, slammed vag 24/7 and lived the life (until he pushed it over the edge).
Nevertheless, the kid lived more in his short life than most of you guys put together. And there's no shame in that either. Still owning people even when he's 6 feet under.
Yes - better looking, better body, more successful, more popular with hot women - than 99% here.
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Thanks man, I think I'm comparable to zyzz overall, some may say a bit better some may say a bit worse, either is a fair comment I think. Although the nuthuggers do get very aggressive towards me when I say that lol.
Oh Brother ::)
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200, 6'2" = 5'10", 172 lbs. This is within the natural range, for fuck's sake. Zyzz must have been ATLEAST 210 lbs at his height.
You must be forgetting the fact that the little shit started at like 100lbs.
Just because it's withing the natural range, doesn't mean it's inconceivable that someone with shitty genetics for putting on muscle such as himself should simply blow past the natural limit, even on drugs. It depends on where you started to begin with. I've seen people who end up in the 170 range, albeit shredded as he is, at 5'10 who have already run cycles. Granted, they're usually Indian or some other race with shitty genetics but still.
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I don't really get it guys. This thread shows clearly how biased can people get by someone's fame or "personality" when it comes to physique. Let's be honest: he wasn't anything more than yet another gymrat. My gym has 1 guy who completely destroys him (much bigger with even more aesthetically pleasing look), 2 guys that are much better and 2-3 guys that can compete with him. 1 of guys who is somewhat equal doesn't even train year round. He drinks alcohol, parties like hell, then he trains naturally for 10 weeks, then jumps on prop and winny, 10 weeks and boom, he's zyz-level. It's all structure, muscle memory, naturally low bodyfat, genetics and good response to gear and training. Some of you are uber-delusional thinking you must take tren to look like that. For some, yer, for others, nope. Yeah, yeah, I know - people do lie. But I ain't got their drug information from them. I got it from people that actually supply them, lol. There's no reason for someone who sells gear to tell me lies about that, it's obviously not even good for his business :D
The guy whose photos I posted before doesn't train year round either. It was pictures after like half a year of consistent training? And about 15 weeks of gear. Winny, bold, test (never more than 400mg/week), that's it. And if you ask me, he just fucking destroys Zyz.
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I don't really get it guys. This thread shows clearly how biased can people get by someone's fame or "personality" when it comes to physique. Let's be honest: he wasn't anything more than yet another gymrat. My gym has 1 guy who completely destroys him (much bigger with even more aesthetically pleasing look), 2 guys that are much better and 2-3 guys that can compete with him. 1 of guys who is somewhat equal doesn't even train year round. He drinks alcohol, parties like hell, then he trains naturally for 10 weeks, then jumps on prop and winny, 10 weeks and boom, he's zyz-level. It's all structure, muscle memory, naturally low bodyfat, genetics and good response to gear and training. Some of you are uber-delusional thinking you must take tren to look like that. For some, yer, for others, nope. Yeah, yeah, I know - people do lie. But I ain't got their drug information from them. I got it from people that actually supply them, lol. There's no reason for someone who sells gear to tell me lies about that, it's obviously not even good for his business :D
The guy whose photos I posted before doesn't train year round either. It was pictures after like half a year of consistent training? And about 15 weeks of gear. Winny, bold, test (never more than 400mg/week), that's it. And if you ask me, he just fucking destroys Zyz.
epic jealousy
its something called charisma
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WHO THE FUCK IS THIS ZYZZ PRICK
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there is no one in my gym that can compete with zyzz, not with his conditioning, I don't think anyone on prop/winny can to be honest, he used moderate or high doses of tren for years... I'm not biased, I think he was funny but that's it, but all this shit about him being small or not all that win it comes to his physique... posting on this website I've seen more shirtless guys on steroids than I ever htought I would lol, he is easily in top 5%. He is not a getbigger so fuck him, but still top 5%
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(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/08/11/1226112/927954-zyzz.jpg)
Here's a good pic to illustrate... you see zyzz's waist isn't realy small, not compared to another juicer of similar size, but it's the shape and conditioning that makes it look small, plus he has more mass around the shoulder/trap area than most other bbers proportionately. Also the way he poses, pulling his shoulders down to highlight his traps... this actually makes him look les wide becuase it hides his lats and takes away from his v taper, i do the same thing... all right enough of this im gonna go touch a woman to ungay myself
lol looks 180 tops here, maybe less. 215 ::)
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was he big? yes and no.
he didn't stay on gear all the time
zyzz off juice:
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3015153&d=1295270166)
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1406/dsc01169large.jpg)
(http://www.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/gallery/costa/20343_1229681779412_1150111612_30571247_4089751_n.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/sqiiad.jpg)
not impressive at all
zyzz on juice:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_opkI5kI1V_M/TUnQlr0-LzI/AAAAAAAAAEg/VU0TmaSIU08/s1600/zyzz+and+chestbrah.jpg)
(http://miscdrama.com/wiki/images/a/a9/TheHappening-meets-Zyzz.jpg)
(http://bondilife.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/zyzz-gym.jpg)
(http://zyzzcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/167060_10150093752717226_351749002225_6004623_3936234_n.jpg)
now, much better.
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There were only 1-2 pics of him at that big which was close to his death. The beach pics he was 190 or so according to himself, he never exaggerated his weight and was always saying he wanted to put on more size. Lot of people are mixing up pics from 1-2 years ago where he wasn't at his biggest.
Thanks for the clarification, I think you ended the debate right there.
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Another topic now that the bodyweight one has been solved - has anyone seen pictures of his back? Is there a reason why he didn't post any or only rarely did?
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Thanks for the clarification, I think you ended the debate right there.
I saw some pics he posted at 215 and he was much bigger than the beach pics. I believe 215, plus he was only 22, i found you can look bigger at smaller bodyweights as you get older.
His dying from a pre-existing condition is pretty much bullshit. He might have had a condition but steroids sped it up and made it worse and going to a massively humid country like Thailand with low BF and having breathing problems does not help.
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thank you, aesthetics
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exactly...what the fuck is so special about this drug abuser? dime a dozen homo. look at his hair lol.
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Another topic now that the bodyweight one has been solved - has anyone seen pictures of his back? Is there a reason why he didn't post any or only rarely did?
pretty good reason why :-X
although this video is about two years old, in his earlier days
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and a lot of people die from them, just like zyzz did. he used to post about what he ran, you can probably find it in google if you care enough for the specifics but he abused clen and tren, and you're fooling yourself if you don't think abusing aas AND clen isn't going to give you heart issues on top of recreational drugs. i mean really dude? come on.
Where the hell did I say abusing clen and tren won't give someone problems? All I said was he would still be alive if he didn't have the heart condition. Eventually it would have caught up to him, but not at 22 years old
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There were only 1-2 pics of him at that big which was close to his death. The beach pics he was 190 or so according to himself, he never exaggerated his weight and was always saying he wanted to put on more size. Lot of people are mixing up pics from 1-2 years ago where he wasn't at his biggest.
do you have them?
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zyzz was bigger then a lot of these perma bulkers walking around at 5-6% always is a pretty hard feat. I knew nothing of him before seeing him on here but he would do well in local bodybuilding contests and if he was 10% would prolly weigh 230-240 which is prowrestler size. Im just calling it like i see it even gh15 says 210 5% is no easy feat and damn sure cant be done natural many guys think you could look like zyzz natural they are fools. zyzz bulked up would be bigger then the majority of steroid users
lol 210 5% is HUGE HUGE fella even at 6'1 it is very big fella,, 5'10 200lb 6-7% is very big fella VERY BIG FELLA ,, big = quality not balonie
gh15 approved
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exactly...what the fuck is so special about this drug abuser? dime a dozen homo. look at his hair lol.
He only pounded thousands of vaginas and inspired hundreds of thousands of kids to get in the gym and juice.
I used to hate him at first but he was a pretty sick girl.
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Where the hell did I say abusing clen and tren won't give someone problems? All I said was he would still be alive if he didn't have the heart condition. Eventually it would have caught up to him, but not at 22 years old
the point is that clen alone gives people serious heart conditions, and then you add on top of that drugs like tren and amphetamines or whatever "fun" drugs he took at parties and you have a recipe to create heart issues that will lead to mortality. granted, it may have been genetic but by and large, 99% of people doing what he did won't walk away from that kind of drug abuse without some type of left ventricle heart enlargement or problems with the cardiovascular system. that's all i'm saying, that it's possible he may have had a congenital heart condition beforehand but abusing those drugs will lead to the type of heart condition that can result in death if one is reckless. there's really no way to know if he had it beforehand or after the drug usage though since no one was specific about the type of heart condition he had and i doubt his friends/family want to attribute him dying to his drug usage, you know?
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if he had any kind of back or legs he would be 210 easy at his height but he was just a squat rack curls for the girls type of guy.
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He only pounded thousands of vaginas and inspired hundreds of thousands of kids to get in the gym and juice.
I used to hate him at first but he was a pretty sick #girl.
drug dealers must love this guy
and that hair....
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drug dealers must love this guy
and that hair....
Everyone loves him. But I'm definitely sure the Aussie juice heads loved him. All those faggy music festivals exploded with juicers.
Zyzz's brother got busted for slanging juice about a month before his death.
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the point is that clen alone gives people serious heart conditions, and then you add on top of that drugs like tren and amphetamines or whatever "fun" drugs he took at parties and you have a recipe to create heart issues that will lead to mortality. granted, it may have been genetic but by and large, 99% of people doing what he did won't walk away from that kind of drug abuse without some type of left ventricle heart enlargement or problems with the cardiovascular system. that's all i'm saying, that it's possible he may have had a congenital heart condition beforehand but abusing those drugs will lead to the type of heart condition that can result in death if one is reckless. there's really no way to know if he had it beforehand or after the drug usage though since no one was specific about the type of heart condition he had and i doubt his friends/family want to attribute him dying to his drug usage, you know?
this i agree with. Personally I've never felt the need to use clen when ephedrine and DNP are safer and more effective
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http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html (http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html)
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a lot of jealous little women in this thread
the man had an amazing physique, a handsome face, fantastic hair, fame, and charisma
if you are too hateful and insecure to acknowlede these truths then you disgust me
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a lot of jealous little women in this thread
the man had an amazing physique, a handsome face, fantastic hair, fame, and charisma
if you are too hateful and insecure to acknowlede these truths then you disgust me
hi aziz
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a lot of jealous little women in this thread
the man had an amazing physique, a handsome face, fantastic hair, fame, and charisma
if you are too hateful and insecure to acknowlede these truths then you disgust me
what? :D
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He only pounded thousands of vaginas and inspired hundreds of thousands of kids to get in the gym and juice.
I used to hate him at first but he was a pretty sick #girl.
no shit I even have a Zyzz ipod list on my iphone with most of the trance stuff they used in his youtube videos ;D
love doing cardio to this song ;D
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COOL SONG, GOT THE PLAYLIST INFO?
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go to this link, all the other songs are listed on the right side:
you can download them very easily using this another link:
http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
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go to this link, all the other songs are listed on the right side:
you can download them very easily using this another link:
http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
thanks !
is it gay i now have a folder called "zyzz" on my desktop :-\ . am i 'miring ???
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i still think this is the best techno song ever.. damn this song brings back some good fucking memories
and a longer/better mixed version... if this song doesnt fucking pump you up then i dont know what does
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thanks !
is it gay i now have a folder called "zyzz" on my desktop :-\ . am i 'miring ???
yes its pretty gay, but not as gay as having a ipod zyzz list on your iphone (like I have)
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cool songs, for old school techno Prodigy is the first thing that comes into my mind:
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the thing is with people, they think they can just take a high high dose and it will make them better. a virgin cycler should not be running 250mg tren daily. i know he has had lots of use and cycles under his belt but you HAVE to work your way up to these types of amounts. even top bbers worked their bodies into the amounts they use. at least the ones that stay healthier do. you have to break your body in to running 3gs test weekly. and for his size and frame this is seriously not good or needed.
+ ecsatcy, 8balls, pain killers is a serious recipe for disaster...
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he was 6'2" actually and never weighes anything even close to 210 ::) he was walking pharmacy and still manage to look skinny.. hope this helps
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the thing is with people, they think they can just take a high high dose and it will make them better. a virgin cycler should not be running 250mg tren daily. i know he has had lots of use and cycles under his belt but you HAVE to work your way up to these types of amounts. even top bbers worked their bodies into the amounts they use. at least the ones that stay healthier do. you have to break your body in to running 3gs test weekly. and for his size and frame this is seriously not good or needed.
+ ecsatcy, 8balls, pain killers is a serious recipe for disaster...
No cycles, just drugs
this kind of person would not be able to look at himself in the mirror without tren in his system.
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He's an idiot and he's dead.
....end of story.
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this i agree with. Personally I've never felt the need to use clen when ephedrine and DNP are safer and more effective
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DNP is safer ? It can cause blindness,other vision problems , extreme temperatures,brain damage.an overdose of only four times the recommended amount is lethal. DNP was originally usedas a dye, fungicide, herbicide and an insecticide, so how can that be safer than clen?
also i read somewhere than the minimal effective dosage of DNP is very close to its lethal dose...
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a lot of jealous little women in this thread
the man had an amazing physique, a handsome face, fantastic hair, fame, and charisma
if you are too hateful and insecure to acknowlede these truths then you disgust me
Yes, and to top it off he was more popular,famous, successfull than any bodybuilder Clown of today
God Bless son of Zeus, brother of Hercules and father of aesthetics.
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why are you guys obsessing so much with this juiced up persian zoolander. he's dead get over it ::)
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why are you guys obsessing so much with this juiced up persian zoolander. he's dead get over it ::)
x2
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why are you guys obsessing so much with this juiced up persian zoolander. he's dead get over it ::)
Board_SHERIF seems to be mourning him more than most, the little penis puffer.
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He's an idiot and he's dead.
....end of story.
his fanboys were/are the real idiots
at least he managed to make some money out of the internet
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he was 6'2" actually and never weighes anything even close to 210 ::) he was walking pharmacy and still manage to look skinny.. hope this helps
yes he was 210lbs. You are a horrible judge of weight if you don't think he is at least that. Either that or you are looking at old pics
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DNP is safer ? It can cause blindness,other vision problems , extreme temperatures,brain damage.an overdose of only four times the recommended amount is lethal. DNP was originally usedas a dye, fungicide, herbicide and an insecticide, so how can that be safer than clen?
also i read somewhere than the minimal effective dosage of DNP is very close to its lethal dose...
What a load of crap. Find me some people that actually suffered from those sides you are parroting from steroid.com in 2005. Someone that has done between 200-800mg and not for years at a time.
I've taken it twice. Lose weight quick and out of the system quick. Only sides are extreme sweat and hunger. And most of all, no heart problems.
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i think arguments can be made for dnp > stimulants. and i think arguments can be made for stimulants > dnp.
it depends on what your willing to do to your body to get the desired results you need. guys who use steroids cant really bash guys who use dnp as being careless- thats like crackheads looking down on needle users.
i've done both. i have a lot of experience with dnp having used it 4 different times, 3 different ways, going as high as 800mg- and this was back in the day when 800mg of dnp was 800mg of dnp. i wont use it again. the sides were too untolerable at a high dose and the lethargy at lower doses made it difficult to train on. stimulants i am not a big fan of either- i fell awesome when im on them, but cant handle the come down.
for me, id rather spend 4 extra weeks dieting down than use these compounds to help me. but i can see why people would use either/or.
oh, and no way zzyz or whatever his name was 215 in any of his pics- xfactor is the same height about that weight and bf and dwarfs him.
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i think arguments can be made for dnp > stimulants. and i think arguments can be made for stimulants > dnp.
it depends on what your willing to do to your body to get the desired results you need. guys who use steroids cant really bash guys who use dnp as being careless- thats like crackheads looking down on needle users.
i've done both. i have a lot of experience with dnp having used it 4 different times, 3 different ways, going as high as 800mg- and this was back in the day when 800mg of dnp was 800mg of dnp. i wont use it again. the sides were too untolerable at a high dose and the lethargy at lower doses made it difficult to train on. stimulants i am not a big fan of either- i fell awesome when im on them, but cant handle the come down.
for me, id rather spend 4 extra weeks dieting down than use these compounds to help me. but i can see why people would use either/or.
oh, and no way zzyz or whatever his name was 215 in any of his pics- xfactor is the same height about that weight and bf and dwarfs him.
what were some of those sides?
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i think arguments can be made for dnp > stimulants. and i think arguments can be made for stimulants > dnp.
it depends on what your willing to do to your body to get the desired results you need. guys who use steroids cant really bash guys who use dnp as being careless- thats like crackheads looking down on needle users.
i've done both. i have a lot of experience with dnp having used it 4 different times, 3 different ways, going as high as 800mg- and this was back in the day when 800mg of dnp was 800mg of dnp. i wont use it again. the sides were too untolerable at a high dose and the lethargy at lower doses made it difficult to train on. stimulants i am not a big fan of either- i fell awesome when im on them, but cant handle the come down.
for me, id rather spend 4 extra weeks dieting down than use these compounds to help me. but i can see why people would use either/or.
oh, and no way zzyz or whatever his name was 215 in any of his pics- xfactor is the same height about that weight and bf and dwarfs him.
xfactor is alot bigger now...
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what were some of those sides?
i know someone who sweated so bad he changed his sheets every day,,and felt like head was going to explode .dnp is harsh .
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what were some of those sides?
profuse sweating. id strip my bed of sheets, sleep on bath towels and change the towels mid way thru the night cause they'd be soaked.
lethargy like you would not believe- just walking took extreme effort- it felt like i was walking under water.
turns all your bodily fluids yellow including your load. that cannot be good for you. and it yellows your eyes after a while as well.
but the sweating and the lethargy were the worse. you'd be sitting down eating and sweat would be running off the end of your nose.
i cant remember if i got headaches. if i did they were tolerable instead of memorable. if i was going to do it again id run it at no more than 200mg ed and for 30 days.
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How much fat did you lose though?
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profuse sweating. id strip my bed of sheets, sleep on bath towels and change the towels mid way thru the night cause they'd be soaked.
lethargy like you would not believe- just walking took extreme effort- it felt like i was walking under water.
turns all your bodily fluids yellow including your load. that cannot be good for you. and it yellows your eyes after a while as well.
but the sweating and the lethargy were the worse. you'd be sitting down eating and sweat would be running off the end of your nose.
i cant remember if i got headaches. if i did they were tolerable instead of memorable. if i was going to do it again id run it at no more than 200mg ed and for 30 days.
yeah from what i read and heard, it seems line DNP is pretty much clen on HGH HORMONA lol ...
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How much fat did you lose though?
as much as i would have had i just dieted normally for a longer period of time.
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What a load of crap. Find me some people that actually suffered from those sides you are parroting from steroid.com in 2005. Someone that has done between 200-800mg and not for years at a time.
I've taken it twice. Lose weight quick and out of the system quick. Only sides are extreme sweat and hunger. And most of all, no heart problems.
Well, njflxe and noone suffered from the extreme tempertures, and they were running it at normal dose. you dont think that if your running a product at normal dose and it makes you sweat so much that you have to change sheets throught the night, and all your bodily fluids turn yellow, then there is not a chance that if you overdose, it can cause blindness? or brain damage??
im not saying steroids are bad or preaching that people shouldnt take it, i had heard about dnp, and from what i iheard and still hear, its a pretty fucking dangerous substance.. that doesnt mean it cant be administered properly, but nontheless, its still a pretty fucking dangerous substance IMO.. more dangerous than clen and T3, where as you claim DNP is safer than clen
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Well, njflxe and noone suffered from the extreme tempertures, and they were running it at normal dose. you dont think that if your running a product at normal dose and it makes you sweat so much that you have to change sheets throught the night, and all your bodily fluids turn yellow, then there is not a chance that if you overdose, it can cause blindness? or brain damage??
im not saying steroids are bad or preaching that people shouldnt take it, i had heard about dnp, and from what i iheard and still hear, its a pretty fucking dangerous substance.. that doesnt mean it cant be administered properly, but nontheless, its still a pretty fucking dangerous substance IMO.. more dangerous than clen and T3, where as you claim DNP is safer than clen
it all depends on dosage when you talk about what is safer. 200mg of dnp is safer than a truck load of clen, and vice versa. I didn't get sides as bad as "no one", but I did sweat like a bitch and had my window open wide in the freezing cold winter. lethargy I did get too, as well as hunger (even with EC stack used in conjunction). Nothing turned yellow though. not my sweats and certainly not my semen. I ran as high as 600mg. I went from 200, to 400, to 600mg over a span of 16 days. Second time I did it less time but 600mg the whole way. Lost insane amounts of fat in conjunction with a cutting diet and cardio. ridiculous
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profuse sweating. id strip my bed of sheets, sleep on bath towels and change the towels mid way thru the night cause they'd be soaked.
lethargy like you would not believe- just walking took extreme effort- it felt like i was walking under water.
turns all your bodily fluids yellow including your load. that cannot be good for you. and it yellows your eyes after a while as well.
but the sweating and the lethargy were the worse. you'd be sitting down eating and sweat would be running off the end of your nose.
i cant remember if i got headaches. if i did they were tolerable instead of memorable. if i was going to do it again id run it at no more than 200mg ed and for 30 days.
WTF that sounds like a nightmare!
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It's not that bad...
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when i was taking trenlast summer i was sweating like a pig ....i couldnt do my cardio normal....sweat was coming out of me like crazy :)...i cant imagine people who takes dnp :) damn they probably feel so miserable :))))
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It's not that bad...
a lot of the dnp today isnt nearly as strong as it was back almost a decade ago. ask around.
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sources cut the shit out of dnp with cornflour and all other kinds of garbage, it varies in consistency depending on who and which batch. dnp is definitely the best weightloss drug by miles with regards to sides, efficacy and price and it's technically legal and a lot of people get it from usa chemical manufacturers because it's a common pesticide.
the only thing that anyone (who isn't a moron) has to worry about is a genetic predisposition to cataract, which seems to be unpredictable until it happens :-\
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sources cut the shit out of dnp with cornflour and all other kinds of garbage, it varies in consistency depending on who and which batch. dnp is definitely the best weightloss drug by miles with regards to sides, efficacy and price and it's technically legal and a lot of people get it from usa chemical manufacturers because it's a common pesticide.
the only thing that anyone (who isn't a moron) has to worry about is a genetic predisposition to cataract, which seems to be unpredictable until it happens :-\
people are too quick to throw out the cataract thing. I mean really, has anyone heard of a case where someone developed cataracts from it? That is the last thing anyone should worry about. In the 1930's, people were using 200mg of DNP for up to 3 years straight with no lingering health effects
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Who is this "Jizz" guy you are talking about?
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people are too quick to throw out the cataract thing. I mean really, has anyone heard of a case where someone developed cataracts from it? That is the last thing anyone should worry about. In the 1930's, people were using 200mg of DNP for up to 3 years straight with no lingering health effects
yes, i've seen a few people on forums develop cataract from dnp. it's incidence rate is at .1% but i think it's actually lower than that for males. i think you have to be predisposed genetically and then also run high dosages or long durations of the drug while at the same time lack in a key mineral or suffer from dehydration. from the anecdotes people have given that developed cataract from dnp, they seemed to have no issues or sign of eye problems running high dosages for long duration cycles then out of the blue during one of their cycles they are stricken with an extreme case of cataract in a later cycle.
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yes, i've seen a few people on forums develop cataract from dnp. it's incidence rate is at .1% but i think it's actually lower than that for males. i think you have to be predisposed genetically and then also run high dosages or long durations of the drug while at the same time lack in a key mineral or suffer from dehydration. from the anecdotes people have given that developed cataract from dnp, they seemed to have no issues or sign of eye problems running high dosages for long duration cycles then out of the blue during one of their cycles they are stricken with an extreme case of cataract in a later cycle.
DNP can be used safely but is it worth it?
Same goes for prohormones, mark my words those guys running that superdrol and haladrol shit will have serious health consequences down the road. As far as I'm concerned it's poison.
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What a load of crap. Find me some people that actually suffered from those sides you are parroting from steroid.com in 2005. Someone that has done between 200-800mg and not for years at a time.
I've taken it twice. Lose weight quick and out of the system quick. Only sides are extreme sweat and hunger. And most of all, no heart problems.
no one said those sides will appear instantly, it may be 5 - 20 years down the road that it happens.
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dude dances like a rtard
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6'2 215, :D
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i will burn my blue sweat pants that he was wearing first thing tomorrow morning
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DNP can be used safely but is it worth it?
Same goes for prohormones, mark my words those guys running that superdrol and haladrol shit will have serious health consequences down the road. As far as I'm concerned it's poison.
If you've ever ran it, you will know: it is definitely worth it. So worth it.
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If you've ever ran it, you will know: it is definitely worth it. So worth it.
did it make you leaner than following a strict pre contest diet would over time? no.
you can get as lean without using dnp than you can using it.
so why is it so worth it?
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did it make you leaner than following a strict pre contest diet would over time? no.
you can get as lean without using dnp than you can using it.
so why is it so worth it?
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care to contribute?
wait, you've never done 'steroids' so you have nothing to impart.
beat it, pansy- real men are talking here.
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care to contribute?
wait, you've never done 'steroids' so you have nothing to impart.
beat it, pansy- real men are talking here.
:) always flattering to have a new stalker...
and yes i've never done steroids, that doesnt mean i cant detect bullshit...
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:) always flattering to have a new stalker...
and yes i've never done steroids, that doesnt mean i cant detect bullshit...
stalker? ahahahahahaha your the one who followed me into this thread, dildo.
what are you doing here then, gearbox? trolling for pics of big muscular men? i knew you were a fag when you said you find things 'cute'.
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stalker? ahahahahahaha your the one who followed me into this thread, dildo.
what are you doing here then, gearbox? trolling for pics of big muscular men? i knew you were a fag when you said you find things 'cute'.
lol i was posting in this thread 3-4 pages ago ::)
seriously dude,you were entertaining at the beginning and its "cute" how you memorize all my posts, but now it got too old too fast ;)
and what you said makes no sense at all, ur acting like a lil kid..."saltshaker posted in this thread, so he must be trolling for pics of muscular men" ::) .come on "brah", seriously thats the best you can do ?
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lol i was posting in this thread 3-4 pages ago ::)
seriously dude,you were entertaining at the beginning and its "cute" how you memorize all my posts, but now it got too old too fast ;)
and what you said makes no sense at all, ur acting like a lil kid..."saltshaker posted in this thread, so he must be trolling for pics of muscular men" ::) .come on "brah", seriously thats the best you can do ?
lemme ask you a serious question.
you really come off as a bitch in the tone of your posts. like a mommas boy. were you raised by an overbearing mother? like your kinda effeminate. do you talk with a lisp?
just curious. it would explain a lot.
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lemme ask you a serious question.
you really come off as a bitch in the tone of your posts. like a mommas boy. were you raised by an overbearing mother? like your kinda effeminate. do you talk with a lisp?
just curious. it would explain a lot.
Dude,you`re fucking killing me over here! LOL ;D
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lol i was posting in this thread 3-4 pages ago ::)
seriously dude,you were entertaining at the beginning and its "cute" how you memorize all my posts, but now it got too old too fast ;)
and what you said makes no sense at all, ur acting like a lil kid..."saltshaker posted in this thread, so he must be trolling for pics of muscular men" ::) .come on "brah", seriously thats the best you can do ?
What is it with guys like you ? seriously there are so many of these types of posters now....little snarky asswipes that think who the fuck they are...when they are nobody special...just another dick on the internet
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Dude,you`re fucking killing me over here! LOL ;D
LOL!
dude I didn't even know who this dildo was till he got on my radar today. if being gay was a crime he'd be Charles Manson.
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then i'd be john wayne gacey :D
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What is it with guys like you ? seriously there are so many of these types of posters now....little snarky asswipes that think who the fuck they are...when they are nobody special...just another dick on the internet
seems like 'CockShaker' comes here to try to be the big man cause his mommy runs the show at home.
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LOL!
dude I didn't even know who this dildo was till he got on my radar today. if being gay was a crime he'd be Charles Manson.
LOL!
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What is it with guys like you ? seriously there are so many of these types of posters now....little snarky asswipes that think who the fuck they are...when they are nobody special...just another dick on the internet
you seemed cooler than this gorink. this is internet, we're all nobodys when it comes to being on the forum.. looks like i touched a nerve in your sowing circle with your "online friends" ?
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you guys are just really really fake, you say LOL a lot, you do the eye rolling smiley face, you guys all front like it's your job
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you seemed cooler than this gorink. this is internet, we're all nobodys when it comes to being on the forum.. looks like i touched a nerve in your sowing circle with your "online friends" ?
First off...it's "sewing circle"...second..i am cool...I'm just tired of all the pissing matches around here lately...it seems like every thread turns into a bitch fest ...inevitably one of the resident miserable fucks here comes along and drags things down...it's so boring and useless
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you guys are just really really fake, you say LOL a lot, you do the eye rolling smiley face, you guys all front like it's your job
This...and the "i touched a nerve"..."you're obsessed"...blah blah blah....it's the internet...people post shit...people respond ...nobody's "stalking" anyone ::)
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6'2 215, :D
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this is what happens when aspergers take roids and xtc etc
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this is what happens when aspergers take roids and xtc etc
no there is other things that happen like you dont die then end up 35 yo like me with nothing to do becasue you didnt die
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no shit I even have a Zyzz ipod list on my iphone with most of the trance stuff they used in his youtube videos ;D
love doing cardio to this song ;D
I thought I was the only one lol that find yourself really gets me going :) and I'm a monster. I used to hate him but after watching his videos when he died the kid does have some kinda charisma to him. Its one thing to talk about living in the fast lane and dying young he did it. you miran :)
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The guy seemed smart enough to walk away from it and not give a fuck if he looked a bit softer as he aged because he had other things going on.
Shame, when you are that young you think nothing can hurt you, too much gear but too many estrogen blockers and diuretics fucked him.
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The guy seemed smart enough to walk away from it and not give a fuck he looked a bit softer as he aged because he had other things going on.
Shame, when you are that young you think nothing can hurt you, too much gear but too many estrogen blockers and diuretics fucked him.
what areyou talking about
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i keep seeing this thread title and i wonder: am i the only one who thinks using 250mg tren ace eod, like zyzz, isn't really a huge amount?
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i keep seeing this thread title and i wonder: am i the only one who thinks using 250mg tren ace eod, like zyzz, isn't really a huge amount?
He was supposedly using 250mg ED, which is quite a lot.
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he must have been using a lot of something because his natural physique was 100% pure twink
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He was supposedly using 250mg ED, which is quite a lot.
pretty sure i remember him posting his cycle and it was like 2cc of test-p and 2cc of tren every other day, could be wrong though
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he must have been using a lot of something because his natural physique was 100% pure twink
his roided physique was pure twink too, lol. he was small as hell except towards the very last days he was alive
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his roided physique was pure twink too, lol. he was small as hell except towards the very last days he was alive
bigger than me but still he somehow looked very twink like
maybe the tattoos and make up are confusing me
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bigger than me but still he somehow looked very twink like
maybe the tattoos and make up are confusing me
why do you even bother lifting as a natural
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why do you even bother lifting as a natural
Because natural dedicated lifter will never ever look like a bodybuilder but he still looks a lot better than when he wouldnt work out at all
a lot
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that logic is dumb, if you follow that logic then you should be popping some anavar and using some deca right now? some other reason why you aren't using and quite frankly, it is upsetting to see yourself waste your time.
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zyzz looked really good and it is tempting me to also take a test cycle. But I'm not.
When I'm in the shape of my life, I do look good (not as good as zyzz), but help me god if I have a flu for a month I will lose pounds and my results will drop quickly. And if I'm not sick, then someone will drive over me by a car so it's hard to be in constant drive and have fire in my heart for training when I constantly have to start from the beginning, it wears down my nerves.
With a small test cycle I could be able to maintain a good body with half the effort and don't have to be so psyched up everytime in the gym and meditate before the workouts lol. It's really hard sometimes also with the fact I get depressed easily, and I don't have the luxury to train in some garage alone without unneeded surroundings.
On the minus side, I'm not ready to handle the on/off periods with cycles and see how my body loses 20lbs every other time I'm on and off, it would fuck my mind so bad I would probably just kill my self in any way I can.
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At one point he stated it was nothing injectable - just oral dbol 50mg a day, Winstrol tabs 25mg a day, and Clen for 4-6 weeks periods, from time to time. I think that's believable. Remember he was going for the Frank Zane look.
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At one point he stated it was nothing injectable - just oral dbol 50mg a day, Winstrol tabs 25mg a day, and Clen for 4-6 weeks periods, from time to time. I think that's believable. Remember he was going for the Frank Zane look.
That's more than enough to acieve that body look. If you allready love training hard and are consistant with it, adding hormones will get you to another level beyond belief.
I don't know why would anyone think zyzz is small, I think he is far from it. Maby americans are just used to seeing giants.
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zyzz looked really good and it is tempting me to also take a test cycle. But I'm not.
When I'm in the shape of my life, I do look good (not as good as zyzz), but help me god if I have a flu for a month I will lose pounds and my results will drop quickly. And if I'm not sick, then someone will drive over me by a car so it's hard to be in constant drive and have fire in my heart for training when I constantly have to start from the beginning, it wears down my nerves.
With a small test cycle I could be able to maintain a good body with half the effort and don't have to be so psyched up everytime in the gym and meditate before the workouts lol. It's really hard sometimes also with the fact I get depressed easily, and I don't have the luxury to train in some garage alone without unneeded surroundings.
On the minus side, I'm not ready to handle the on/off periods with cycles and see how my body loses 20lbs every other time I'm on and off, it would fuck my mind so bad I would probably just kill my self in any way I can.
You meditate before workouts too? ;D
I thought I was the only one for whom the pre-workout time was a spiritual moment of thought and reflection!
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You meditate before workouts too? ;D
I thought I was the only one for whom the pre-workout time was a spiritual moment of thought and reflection!
Yes a little bit. You have to, because even to improve 2% you have to train 200%. This is possible however only if yo're healthy and injury free. Which I'm not at the moment I still have SOME issues on my knees after the accident this summer but I've been deadlifting hard and doing squats now with 225 for high repetitions but the squats not with high tempo like I used to, but few months ago I wasn't able to do even that.
Mind to muscle connection is where it's at 8) , when they say that you picture yourself doing it before you do it is the truth, that's the way to do it.
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where its at is one place and one place only ,,, bodybuildr to dealer conection!,, or sponsor to dealer same exact thing,, the dealer level wil dectate how well you will be as a bodybuildr,, PERIOD
secondary to that is the genetic respond to hormones ,,
all the rest come after
gh15 approved
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where its at is one place and one place only ,,, bodybuildr to dealer conection!,, or sponsor to dealer same exact thing,, the dealer level wil dectate how well you will be as a bodybuildr,, PERIOD
secondary to that is the genetic respond to hormones ,,
all the rest come after
gh15 approved
yes and then there is the bodybuilder to dealer connection, ofcourse ;D
but what do you mean by "all the rest come after" ?
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yes and then there is the bodybuilder to dealer connection, ofcourse ;D
but what do you mean by "all the rest come after" ?
He means the training. Bodybuilding is nothing to do with diet. Apparently.
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He means the training. Bodybuilding is nothing to do with diet. Apparently.
tren is cardio in a bottle. hgh is fat loss in a bottle. no need to diet, just eat icecream and enough protein and you are set.
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but 250mg tren ace daily... i figure its some underdosed UG lab stufff he was using, on strango tren at that dosage i dont know what would happen to him :D
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Well something happened to him 8) I
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sure did ::)
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but 250mg tren ace daily... i figure its some underdosed UG lab stufff he was using, on strango tren at that dosage i dont know what would happen to him :D
he woudnt be able to take it ,,his size woudnt be able to handle it ,, strngo is legit dose accurate and best raws out of any raws,, same raw use in americano pharmas ,, nothing compare ,, what this kido used is underdosed
you better be 220-230lb of lean muscle to use 250 of strgo in one inject few sustained period of time
gh15 approved
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where its at is one place and one place only ,,, bodybuildr to dealer conection!,, or sponsor to dealer same exact thing,, the dealer level wil dectate how well you will be as a bodybuildr,, PERIOD
secondary to that is the genetic respond to hormones ,,
all the rest come after
gh15 approved
Here we go again. So you're saying that training and diet have very little if anything to do with bodybuilding? Is that what I'm understanding?
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Here we go again. So you're saying that training and diet have very little if anything to do with bodybuilding? Is that what I'm understanding?
Bingo!!
Even running wussy doses I eat and train however I want and look great. Can't do that naturally. When I actually do try to mind my diet and train more calculated, it just takes my results that much further.
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It blows me away to think that people actually think they can get away with training less when the truth is you have to train harder when you're on gear.
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what do u mean get away, get away? Like we have to follow your standards for our physics? You aint my coach. And if your standards are so high, why do you look like some bloofy gym rat when ur not competing
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what do u mean get away, get away? Like we have to follow your standards for our physics? You aint my coach. And if your standards are so high, why do you look like some bloofy gym rat when ur not competing
So your way is also to take more drugs and train less? You're right, I'm not your coach, wouldn't want be. I want people who rely more on training rather than drugs.
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So your way is also to take more drugs and train less? You're right, I'm not your coach, wouldn't want be. I want people who rely more on training rather than drugs.
who said anything about me having a way
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No you don't...that's just old-school bro science.
I trained natural, and dieted for over 40 fucking years. and i was never happy with the way i looked. to be somewhat lean i would have to eat wood for eight weeks, and i would lose thickness in the process.
in the last 5 months I've transformed my body into EXACTLY how i want it to look, and i don't diet at all. I don't eat like an asshole, mind you...but I eat regular food, normal portions..no pain involved at all...and I'm lean as fuck.
and as far as training...12-15 reps..never go heavy anymore, and I put on quality muscle..and I'm just taking one steroid,and no GH. i could imagine the gains I would make if i went crazy with the shit.
That's just old wive's tale talk.
steroids are the magic bullet
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really all has been said at the post above, that's just the way things are...
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+2,same boat as Groink,tired of eating and dieting and drinking plain water,eating chicken,tuna,brown rice and vegetables all day in order to stay lean.After adding roids,pizza,good and rich food became posible while getting leaner same time.Fuck naturals,they keep repeating their shit until they try aas and then they never ever go train without roids,but still claiming natural status,lol...
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I never said anything about natural, I said in conjunction with gear. You must not think there is a very real physiologial effect fron training...HARD. Again, you have to train HARDER when on gear than off. Everyone wants to take an easy way out.
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I never said anything about natural, I said in conjunction with gear. You must not think there is a very real physiologial effect fron training...HARD. Again, you have to train HARDER when on gear than off. Everyone wants to take an easy way out.
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we dont have to do shit coach
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I never said anything about natural, I said in conjunction with gear. You must not think there is a very real physiologial effect fron training...HARD. Again, you have to train HARDER when on gear than off. Everyone wants to take an easy way out.
Why make it hard for yourself when you can get the same results without all the effort?
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Coach is just talking bullshit cause he doesn't want to recognize that his muscles are 100% products of steroids. Dude is 5'5/6 (?)
I bet he would be my weight as a lifetime natural.
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It blows me away to think that people actually think they can get away with training less when the truth is you have to train harder when you're on gear.
no, that's wrong. you don't need to train harder, but rather that you can train harder with gear and that you can get much greater results by training harder due to a quicker recovery time, compared to being natural
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I never said anything about natural, I said in conjunction with gear. You must not think there is a very real physiologial effect fron training...HARD. Again, you have to train HARDER when on gear than off. Everyone wants to take an easy way out.
Bullshit. I've personally witnessed guys who trained half asleep and STILL were getting better... Take a guess - why was that so? o.O
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Ok, whatever. And btw xerxes, I started training so I wouldn't look like you. Hope that helps.
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Ok, whatever. And btw xerxes, I started training so I wouldn't look like you. Hope that helps.
Hahaha your entire livelyhood is based on steroids and broscience.
I look like a natural with average genetics, I don't think there is anything at all wrong with that. If you think that offended me you better think again. :D
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Ok then Coach, let me ask you this, how much would you weigh if you were a lifetime natural?
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165 15% lol
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I know nothing. You know everything. I'm all bro-science you're all fact based. I'm out.
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I know nothing. You know everything. I'm all bro-science you're all fact based. I'm out.
We still love you, Joe. :-*
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generation nothingness
totally fucking empty
jealousy
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Hahaha your entire livelyhood is based on steroids and broscience.
I look like a natural with average genetics, I don't think there is anything at all wrong with that. If you think that offended me you better think again. :D
just caught this. Can you explain the highlighted?
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just caught this. Can you explain the highlighted?
Just hyperbole to get a reaction nothing serious
care to tell how much you think you'd weigh as a lifetime natural in shape?
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No you don't...that's just old-school bro science.
I trained natural, and dieted for over 40 fucking years. and i was never happy with the way i looked. to be somewhat lean i would have to eat wood for eight weeks, and i would lose thickness in the process.
in the last 5 months I've transformed my body into EXACTLY how i want it to look, and i don't diet at all. I don't eat like an asshole, mind you...but I eat regular food, normal portions..no pain involved at all...and I'm lean as fuck.
and as far as training...12-15 reps..never go heavy anymore, and I put on quality muscle..and I'm just taking one steroid,and no GH. i could imagine the gains I would make if i went crazy with the shit.
That's just old wive's tale talk.
steroids are the magic bullet
you are literally an old mother fucker
in every sense of that phrase
u wish u had started earlier, don't u
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you are literally an old mother fucker
in every sense of that phrase
u wish u had started earlier, don't u
he was exaggerating a bit there,,,dude looks good,just wanted to go further.
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Just hyperbole to get a reaction nothing serious
care to tell how much you think you'd weigh as a lifetime natural in shape?
No one on neither my mom or dad's side every broke 5'8 and I'm 5'6. I have a medium bone structure so off the top of my head I'd say around 160 or so in contest shape maybe 170.
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gayest little wimp i ever seen... what a joke, now plz kill this thread, total waist of time!!!
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No one on neither my mom or dad's side every broke 5'8 and I'm 5'6. I have a medium bone structure so off the top of my head I'd say around 160 or so in contest shape maybe 170.
10lbs of muscle is one hell of a difference
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No one on neither my mom or dad's side every broke 5'8 and I'm 5'6. I have a medium bone structure so off the top of my head I'd say around 160 or so in contest shape maybe 170.
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I'm a big believer in a size advatage but zyzz is by far large enough considering the extreme difference in mobilty and speed favoring zyzz. I say zyzz beats the shit out of jay culter very easliy. I dont think it would even be that much of a fight.
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I don't know if Zyzz has the heart for it
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Zxxz is dead - knockout to Jay
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how can you ask who would win when zyzz is dead
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Jay would crush him with his almighty waist 8)
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I'm a big believer in a size advatage but zyzz is by far large enough considering the extreme difference in mobilty and speed favoring zyzz. I say zyzz beats the shit out of jay culter very easliy. I dont think it would even be that much of a fight.
hi zyzyzzzzyzzzz
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is it a sword fight ? zyzz had legit 8" so I would say him :D
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Good thread.
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It wouldn't be a sweat for Zyzz.
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;D ;)
LMAO....and you say I'm all "bro-science"? lol
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