When u do ure 3rd and 4th, depending on ure goals, results might vary slighly, everyone has different genetics and response to gear use, i had same results as you with sust and dbol at the same dosages, there is no way now i can get that, i am 60lbs bigger then the cycles i did when i took sust 500mg wk and dbold 35mgs a day, so my doses need to be higher.