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I forgot she was only 23 when this happened. :-\
Monica Lewinsky speaks out, says she was made ‘scapegoat’
Published May 06, 2014
FoxNews.com
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Monica Lewinsky is shown in this Dec. 5, 2006 file photo at an event in New York.AP
Monica Lewinsky, now 40 and 17 years removed from her affair with then-President Bill Clinton, is speaking out -- offering what could be uncomfortable details as Hillary Clinton is thought to be preparing a White House run.
Lewinsky has penned an account for Vanity Fair, excerpts of which were published Tuesday. In it, she recalls the humiliation she endured and accuses the Clinton administration and others of making her a "scapegoat."
"The Clinton administration, the special prosecutor's minions, the political operatives on both sides of the aisle, and the media were able to brand me," she wrote. "And that brand stuck, in part because it was imbued with power."
Still, Lewinsky wrote that the affair was consensual.
"Sure, my boss took advantage of me, but I will always remain firm on this point: it was a consensual relationship. Any 'abuse' came in the aftermath, when I was made a scapegoat in order to protect his powerful position," she said.
Lewinsky said she "deeply" regrets what happened between her and the leader of the free world. As for her silence all these years, she acknowledged "buzz" that she was paid off but insisted "nothing could be further from the truth."
Lewinsky said her notoriety for years has hurt her ability to get the kind of job she wants. She said she interviewed for communications jobs but was often told she wasn't "quite right" for the position, or was courted just to help companies get media attention.
Lewinsky revealed that she was "suicidal" during the height of the Clinton administration scandal, though never actually tried to kill herself. As for why she's coming forward, she said she wants to "get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment and to start speaking on this topic in public forums."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/06/monica-lewinsky-speaks-out-says-was-made-scapegoat/
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Yeah 23 is such an easy age to make major mistakes in life.
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Yeah 23 is such an easy age to make major mistakes in life.
Yep. They are old enough to know better, but they are still developing. Can be easy prey for someone much older and more sophisticated.
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Yeah 23 is such an easy age to make major mistakes in life.
sorry, I don't buy it.
She was sucking off a married man. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was interfering with the most public marriage in the world.
It's easy to play the victim, but I'd have more respect if she would have just said own it. Being 23 means you are an adult. You can fight wars, buy alcohol, be a millionaire or go to prison. Own it. Pathetic to hear "so-and-so was young, just experimenting with drugs" or "she was naive and young, didn't know better".
Sorry, no dice. She was an adult, and acting very disrespectful. Thi reminds me of when Mccain tried to defend his use of the C-word, angrily yelled at his wife, when he was "only 55".... Yes, you've grown so much since then. Ugh. Age is the ultimate wimpy excuse. If you're an adult, whether you're 18 or 33 or 55 or 72, you're an adult. Period.
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I would hit it and cum on her dress.
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sorry, I don't buy it.
She was sucking off a married man. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was interfering with the most public marriage in the world.
It's easy to play the victim, but I'd have more respect if she would have just said own it. Being 23 means you are an adult. You can fight wars, buy alcohol, be a millionaire or go to prison. Own it. Pathetic to hear "so-and-so was young, just experimenting with drugs" or "she was naive and young, didn't know better".
Sorry, no dice. She was an adult, and acting very disrespectful. Thi reminds me of when Mccain tried to defend his use of the C-word, angrily yelled at his wife, when he was "only 55".... Yes, you've grown so much since then. Ugh. Age is the ultimate wimpy excuse. If you're an adult, whether you're 18 or 33 or 55 or 72, you're an adult. Period.
Not excusing her.
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Liberal war on women
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I would hit it and cum on her dress.
Is this a WYHI thread? ???
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that's crazy that that was 17 years ago. god i'm old
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Is this a WYHI thread? ???
LOL
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sorry, I don't buy it.
She was sucking off a married man. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was interfering with the most public marriage in the world.
It's easy to play the victim, but I'd have more respect if she would have just said own it. Being 23 means you are an adult. You can fight wars, buy alcohol, be a millionaire or go to prison. Own it. Pathetic to hear "so-and-so was young, just experimenting with drugs" or "she was naive and young, didn't know better".
Sorry, no dice. She was an adult, and acting very disrespectful. Thi reminds me of when Mccain tried to defend his use of the C-word, angrily yelled at his wife, when he was "only 55".... Yes, you've grown so much since then. Ugh. Age is the ultimate wimpy excuse. If you're an adult, whether you're 18 or 33 or 55 or 72, you're an adult. Period.
like Dennis Miller said, "Ladies if you're 20 years old and have an opportunity to blow the President of the United States.......eh i don't know i think you should probably blow the President of the United States."
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Being thrown into the spotlight like that at such a young age must have been absolute HELL for her.
I'm glad she is now able to come out into the spotlight on her own terms. I wish her well. :)
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sorry, I don't buy it.
She was sucking off a married man. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was interfering with the most public marriage in the world.
It's easy to play the victim, but I'd have more respect if she would have just said own it. Being 23 means you are an adult. You can fight wars, buy alcohol, be a millionaire or go to prison. Own it. Pathetic to hear "so-and-so was young, just experimenting with drugs" or "she was naive and young, didn't know better".
Sorry, no dice. She was an adult, and acting very disrespectful. Thi reminds me of when Mccain tried to defend his use of the C-word, angrily yelled at his wife, when he was "only 55".... Yes, you've grown so much since then. Ugh. Age is the ultimate wimpy excuse. If you're an adult, whether you're 18 or 33 or 55 or 72, you're an adult. Period.
Come on 240, don't be so harsh. Yes she showed extremely poor judgement, however there were 2 people involved, ...not just her, ...but also "the married man" who really should have known better. Let me ask you this... do you know any married men who have strayed in a momentary lapse of judgement, who you might consider worthy of forgiveness? ;)
Just because she was 23... or perhaps 19 or 21 at the time, doesn't exactly make her an adult. That's just an arbitrary number pulled out of a hat. The fact remains, she clearly wasn't mature enough to make sensible decisions at the time. The one sensible decision she did make was not of her own initiative, but was suggested to her from an older woman a little wiser than her. Thank Goodness for her, she took that piece of advice.
Are you denying that they were not indeed setting her up as the scapegoat in everything.
Not only were they setting her up as a scapegoat, ...they were setting her up as a stalker... a fatal attraction.
The blue dress & DNA technological advances changed all of that.
Stop blaming the victim, ...and YES, she was clearly a victim, whether she sees it that way or not.
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Stop blaming the victim, ...and YES, she was clearly a victim, whether she sees it that way or not.
She could have avoided all of it by just walking away instead of giving oral sex. I know, she feared this and that, but she was the one saving DNA and playing all sneaky about stuff. If she enjoys the quickie, then enjoy it... but she clearly had some agenda with saving his sperm. Blackmail? Who knows. If a female kept my sperm, and we were having a consensual sexual relationship, I'd be VERY upset.
She's an adult by the law. That's how it is. There are many brave 18 or 20 or 22 year olds that are working as police in bad places, fighting fires, fighting wars, etc. She'd been an adult for 5 years, when she decided to blow a married man and keep his DNA for whatever reason. That has scandalous and shady all over it.
Clinton was guilty of adultery, and he sure paid the price for it. But she hid DNA... that's just so so shady. Have a quickie and call it a day. But keeping the sperm? ouch.
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She needs to just swallow her pride and move on.
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240 I agree that she did make a mistake and should own it but there is a reason young people in their 20's still make what we as older adult consider stupid mistakes.
http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm (http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm)
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240 I agree that she did make a mistake and should own it but there is a reason young people in their 20's still make what we as older adult consider stupid mistakes.
http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm (http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm)
I completely agree that the brain is still developing in the early 20s. Great article.
But I stand by my belief that while isn't not easy, while it might be hard to resist temptation and urges, it is possible for people at 18, 20, 22, to pass up things like beer, weed, sex, crime, etc. Maybe they're not as mentally ready as they will be at 40, but I think they're ready enough.
If I'm run off the road and seriously injured, I don't care if the driver is 18 or 40 or 80... lock that MFer up. I don't care if her poor widdle brain isn't quite developed yet, and that's why she drank 14 Jager shots, had unprotected sex in a parking lot, then made the decision to get behind the wheel and run my ass over. Lock her the@#$*&^# up.
I think society is soft on crime at times because "oh, he was still a kid". But at 23, it's hard to call Lewinsky a kid. She was grown up enough to finish college (i think?) and work in the white house, in one of the most secure and respected rooms on Earth... and she had no problem blowing a married leader while he chatted on phone, and playing hide the cigar. There are PLENTY of 23 year olds who would have walked away from taht situation.
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Clinton was guilty of adultery, and he sure paid the price for it.
How, exactly, did he pay for it? I remember his approval ratings shot up after news of the scandal broke.
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How, exactly, did he pay for it? I remember his approval ratings shot up after news of the scandal broke.
he was outed. He disgraced the office by doing things in that room. History remembers his wet spot. Then they did that whole investigation, asking him aobut his sex life publicly. Hilary sure was no fun to live with back then.
Aside from a brief approval boost (which ain't all that useful for a 2-term lame duck with no chance at congressional majority), Bill Clinton will always be remembered for Monica 1st, everything else 2nd. I mean, Lincoln? Slavery. Washington? Revolutionary War. FDR? WWII. Clinton? BJ from an intern. It's pathetic.
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he was outed. He disgraced the office by doing things in that room. History remembers his wet spot. Then they did that whole investigation, asking him aobut his sex life publicly. Hilary sure was no fun to live with back then.
Aside from a brief approval boost (which ain't all that useful for a 2-term lame duck with no chance at congressional majority), Bill Clinton will always be remembered for Monica 1st, everything else 2nd. I mean, Lincoln? Slavery. Washington? Revolutionary War. FDR? WWII. Clinton? BJ from an intern. It's pathetic.
Yeah it has really slowed him down ::) You don't know what the fuck your talking about, every time the Dems need a mouth piece Bill Clinton is the go to guy.
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wow... she doesn't blame bubba.... she doesn't blame herself... she blames THE MEDIA!
Former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, probably due to growing Clinton nostalgia in politics and on Tumblr, broke her silence with a personal essay for Vanity Fair this month. In it, she posits, "thanks to the Drudge Report, I was ... possibly the first person whose global humiliation was driven by the Internet."
The full essay will be available digitally on Thursday, but here are the highlights. Lewinsky, who is only 40 now, expresses regret: "I, myself, deeply regret what happened between me and President Clinton. Let me say it again: I. Myself. Deeply. Regret. What. Happened." She also says she's ready to move on: "It’s time to burn the beret and bury the blue dress." And she assures conspiracy theorists that the Clintons did not buy her silence up until now: "I can assure you that nothing could be further from the truth."
Lewinsky also makes a point to note that her affair with President Clinton was consensual, and that he did not abuse her. The abuse she suffered was at the hands of the media, she says. Now, the Internet is a much more friendly place for Lewinsky, especially the teen Internet. As The Wire noted earlier this year, Lewinsky is a big part of the '90s nostalgia that permeates Tumblr and sites like Buzzfeed. Beyoncé put her in a song on her latest album.
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/05/monica-lewinsky-blames-the-internet/361788/
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She could have avoided all of it by just walking away instead of giving oral sex. I know, she feared this and that, but she was the one saving DNA and playing all sneaky about stuff. If she enjoys the quickie, then enjoy it... but she clearly had some agenda with saving his sperm. Blackmail? Who knows. If a female kept my sperm, and we were having a consensual sexual relationship, I'd be VERY upset.
She's an adult by the law. That's how it is. There are many brave 18 or 20 or 22 year olds that are working as police in bad places, fighting fires, fighting wars, etc. She'd been an adult for 5 years, when she decided to blow a married man and keep his DNA for whatever reason. That has scandalous and shady all over it.
240, ...she didn't break the law, ...she had sex! ...consensual sex! She shouldn't have to be forced to go on TV to discuss it, ...nor should she have to be dragged into a grand jury to give the sordid details. It's not like she was accused of raping him, or he accused of raping her. A person should have the right to keep the details of their sex life private, ...not broadcast for the entire planet to hear about, and comment on.
Have you ever made an unwise sexual decision? ...EVER?! One you in hindsight felt was a mistake and wish you'd never made? How would YOU feel if all of a sudden, a consensual non criminal sexual act you committed with another person is broadcast across the planet, ...negatively impacting your ability to get a good job, or even have a normal love life. You'd be lucky... seeing that you are already married, ...but how do you think your wife & kids would enjoy the notoriety thrust upon them? Do you think that would be right?
Clinton was guilty of adultery, and he sure paid the price for it. But she hid DNA... that's just so so shady. Have a quickie and call it a day. But keeping the sperm? ouch.
She didn't keep the sperm, ...she kept the dress, ...and that was the one wise thing she did in all of this, thanks to the advice of Linda Tripp. It was Linda Tripp who told her not to have the dress dry cleaned. Thank God for her sake she listened to her. You remember Linda Tripp? ...the biyatch who tripped her up and put her in that situation to begin with? (pun intended) :D
Had she been the mature adult you claim her to have been, she wouldn't have needed to go to Tripp for advice, let alone confide in her. She would have been able to handle the situation on her own. Instead she needed the advice of an older, more mature, and wiser woman. She confided in Linda Tripp, ...and after giving her one solid piece of advice... threw her to the wolves. And yes.. the MEDIA exploited the situation to the best of their ability.
While the whole world was voyeuristically prying into the salacious details, no one was paying attention to the little girl between a rock & a very hard place. She had all sides out for her blood, and the incredible abuses of prosecutorial power were ignored in favour of salacious gossip. You guys all scream that Obama is ignoring the Constitution, yet not one of you noticed special prosecutor Kenneth Starr riverdancing on her constitutional rights back then.
The courts really need to stay out of the bedrooms of the nation. It was a freaking witch-hunt, and she was a scapegoat, ...the most innocent one of them all, ...and she got burned big time.
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he was outed. He disgraced the office by doing things in that room. History remembers his wet spot. Then they did that whole investigation, asking him aobut his sex life publicly. Hilary sure was no fun to live with back then.
Aside from a brief approval boost (which ain't all that useful for a 2-term lame duck with no chance at congressional majority), Bill Clinton will always be remembered for Monica 1st, everything else 2nd. I mean, Lincoln? Slavery. Washington? Revolutionary War. FDR? WWII. Clinton? BJ from an intern. It's pathetic.
Seriously? He was "outed?"
That may be a big deal on the G&O, but for a guy who's made over $90 million from keynote and other speaking engagements alone since 2001, I don't consider his "outing" to have relegated him to the level of "pathetic," in your words.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/03/politics/clinton-speaking-fees/
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She needs to just swallow her pride and move on.
Swallow what?
Oh, good one. ;D
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Come on 240, don't be so harsh. Yes she showed extremely poor judgement, however there were 2 people involved, ...not just her, ...but also "the married man" who really should have known better. Let me ask you this... do you know any married men who have strayed in a momentary lapse of judgement, who you might consider worthy of forgiveness? ;)
Just because she was 23... or perhaps 19 or 21 at the time, doesn't exactly make her an adult. That's just an arbitrary number pulled out of a hat. The fact remains, she clearly wasn't mature enough to make sensible decisions at the time. The one sensible decision she did make was not of her own initiative, but was suggested to her from an older woman a little wiser than her. Thank Goodness for her, she took that piece of advice.
Are you denying that they were not indeed setting her up as the scapegoat in everything.
Not only were they setting her up as a scapegoat, ...they were setting her up as a stalker... a fatal attraction.
The blue dress & DNA technological advances changed all of that.
Stop blaming the victim, ...and YES, she was clearly a victim, whether she sees it that way or not.
Wasn't she the "victim" of her drama teacher back in high school, too?
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Two adults made a bad decision. Clinton as the older of the two should have known better.
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Two adults made a bad decision. Clinton as the older of the two should have known better.
I don't blame Clinton - look at his wife. Hillary is disgusting and revolting and lezbo to boot.
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Two adults made a bad decision. Clinton as the older of the two should have known better.
Agree.
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Yeah it has really slowed him down ::) You don't know what the fuck your talking about, every time the Dems need a mouth piece Bill Clinton is the go to guy.
True. He rescued Obama during the Democrat convention in 2012.
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This is the kind of thread I miss from back in the day GB. Adults having a lively discussion, opinions and logical arguments and the occasional but funny smart ass remark. 90% of threads start off cool then assholes come in with their racist shit or other immature vomiting and just ruin a once really cool site.
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Wasn't she the "victim" of her drama teacher back in high school, too?
I would agree with this assessment as well. Just because she was raised in Beverly Hills, doesn't mean she didn't have a disadvantaged upbringing. In many ways she was more disadvantaged than some kids raised in poverty. Suffice to say, kids raised in Beverly Hills often have a slightly warped view of the world, which can, and quite often results in a lack of maturity, and/or good judgement. The poor girl was flapping in the wind. Some will be happy to note, she went on record saying she'll be voting Republican in the next election. It seems the Democrats left a really bad taste in her mouth before. :P
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I would agree with this assessment as well. Just because she was raised in Beverly Hills, doesn't mean she didn't have a disadvantaged upbringing. In many ways she was more disadvantaged than some kids raised in poverty. Suffice to say, kids raised in Beverly Hills often have a slightly warped view of the world, which can, and quite often results in a lack of maturity, and/or good judgement. The poor girl was flapping in the wind. Some will be happy to note, she went on record saying she'll be voting Republican in the next election. It seems the Democrats left a really bad taste in her mouth before. :P
;D
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I don't blame Clinton - look at his wife. Hillary is disgusting and revolting and lezbo to boot.
I do. Not for the extra-marital affair, ...that should have remained between him & Hilary... and Monica.
He shouldn't have tried to set her up as a stalker, and he shouldn't have lied about it.
I understand why he did, but, everywhere you turn, he was the one in charge of all the pivotal decisions that made this thing go from bad to worse, ...except the big one by Linda Tripp. That was a doosey!! :o
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-meyer/2014/05/07/joe-scarborough-slams-defenders-bill-clinton-womens-rights-unless-we-?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_term=Marketing&utm_content=Facebook&utm_campaign=ScarboroughLewinsky
Awesome
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Agree.
Goes to show that people with high IQs don't necessarily have common sense.
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I would agree with this assessment as well. Just because she was raised in Beverly Hills, doesn't mean she didn't have a disadvantaged upbringing. In many ways she was more disadvantaged than some kids raised in poverty. Suffice to say, kids raised in Beverly Hills often have a slightly warped view of the world, which can, and quite often results in a lack of maturity, and/or good judgement. The poor girl was flapping in the wind. Some will be happy to note, she went on record saying she'll be voting Republican in the next election. It seems the Democrats left a really bad taste in her mouth before. :P
A kid raised in an affluent family more disadvantaged than a kid raised in poverty? Seriously??
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Goes to show that people with high IQs don't necessarily have common sense.
Absolute truth.
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Goes to show that people with high IQs don't necessarily have common sense.
Absolutely True.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/monica-lewinsky-tearful-speech-about-falling-in-love-with-clinton-2014-10
lmfao
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Two adults made a bad decision. Clinton as the older of the two should have known better.
and as the President of the United States, and as the person of authority in that relationship and as a decent human being and............. No excuse for that behavior. While she has some culpability, 90% rest on his shoulders
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Her life has gone nowhere. She is an attention whore who can't or won't move on. Her affair with Clinton is her only claim to fame.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/monica-lewinsky-tearful-speech-about-falling-in-love-with-clinton-2014-10
lmfao
Good pull and oh man I agree with ya on this one.
"According to multiple tweets from audience members, Lewinsky began by saying she fell "in love" with President Bill Clinton and that their affair was her "everything."
When asked to comment, fmr. Pres. Clinton said, "She was just this crazy fat chick who used to blow me sometimes."
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Monica Lewinsky: 'My Life Was Ruined By Drudge
breitbart.com ^ | 10/20/2014 | Charlie Spiering
Posted on 10/21/2014 9:53:25 AM by rktman
Speaking at the Forbes 30 under 30 summit, former White House intern Monica Lewinsky explained to the audience that she was "patient zero" for being bullied on the internet.
"My life was ruined by DRUDGE," she said, according to James O'Keefe, who appears to be attending the summit.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
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I don't blame anyone but Bush ;D
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Monica Lewinsky: 'My Life Was Ruined By Drudge
breitbart.com ^ | 10/20/2014 | Charlie Spiering
Posted on 10/21/2014 9:53:25 AM by rktman
Speaking at the Forbes 30 under 30 summit, former White House intern Monica Lewinsky explained to the audience that she was "patient zero" for being bullied on the internet.
"My life was ruined by DRUDGE," she said, according to James O'Keefe, who appears to be attending the summit.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
she sucked the dick of a married, public figure, then told that linda tripp about it to protect herself, right?
Tough to blame the media, the internet, or anyone else but herself and the scumbag she was blowing.
Props to the 1990s repubs that impeached his ass, and the dems that crossed the aisle. They lack the balls to do that to obama - for far WORSE offenses.
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she sucked the dick of a married, public figure, then told that linda tripp about it to protect herself, right?
Tough to blame the media, the internet, or anyone else but herself and the scumbag she was blowing.
Props to the 1990s repubs that impeached his ass, and the dems that crossed the aisle. They lack the balls to do that to obama - for far WORSE offenses.
He let her. He lied about it and got impeached (symbolic if anything). Obama is a traitor (easily proven) he watched four Americans get killed in real time, went to bed, got up and fund raised in Vegas the next morning. He funded and gave arms to terrorists knowing they were terrorists. He should be held in a military prison awaiting trial. I'm no Clinton fan, but this shit irrelevant.
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He let her. He lied about it and got impeached (symbolic if anything). Obama is a traitor (easily proven) he watched four Americans get killed in real time, went to bed, got up and fund raised in Vegas the next morning. He funded and gave arms to terrorists knowing they were terrorists. He should be held in a military prison awaiting trial. I'm no Clinton fan, but this shit irrelevant.
we're in agreement on obama.
However, I feel he shoudl be impeached because he is about to unleash 27 months of unchecked executive orders upon the USA. Even with a senate run by repubs, nobody can stop him. He can and will fck up this country in the last 2 years, since he'll have nothing to lose.
I'm not sure you want to impeach him. And since you know he cannot be prosecuted UNTIL he's been impeached, I would think you'd support impeachment.
Why do you still object to it? ???
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we're in agreement on obama.
However, I feel he shoudl be impeached because he is about to unleash 27 months of unchecked executive orders upon the USA. Even with a senate run by repubs, nobody can stop him. He can and will fck up this country in the last 2 years, since he'll have nothing to lose.
I'm not sure you want to impeach him. And since you know he cannot be prosecuted UNTIL he's been impeached, I would think you'd support impeachment.
Why do you still object to it? ???
Don't patronize. You're more in love with obama than Al Sharpton.
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Don't patronize. You're more in love with obama than Al Sharpton.
lol :D
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Good pull and oh man I agree with ya on this one.
"According to multiple tweets from audience members, Lewinsky began by saying she fell "in love" with President Bill Clinton and that their affair was her "everything."
When asked to comment, fmr. Pres. Clinton said, "She was just this crazy fat chick who used to blow me sometimes."
- This is a made-up quote
now that's fuckin funny.
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2014/10/21/rosie-odonnell-trashes-bill-clinton-he-should-have-been-prosecuted?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=marketing&utm_campaign=rosie-clinton
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I forgot she was only 23 when this happened. :-\
Monica Lewinsky speaks out, says she was made ‘scapegoat’
Published May 06, 2014
FoxNews.com
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Monica Lewinsky is shown in this Dec. 5, 2006 file photo at an event in New York.AP
Monica Lewinsky, now 40 and 17 years removed from her affair with then-President Bill Clinton, is speaking out -- offering what could be uncomfortable details as Hillary Clinton is thought to be preparing a White House run.
Lewinsky has penned an account for Vanity Fair, excerpts of which were published Tuesday. In it, she recalls the humiliation she endured and accuses the Clinton administration and others of making her a "scapegoat."
"The Clinton administration, the special prosecutor's minions, the political operatives on both sides of the aisle, and the media were able to brand me," she wrote. "And that brand stuck, in part because it was imbued with power."
Still, Lewinsky wrote that the affair was consensual.
"Sure, my boss took advantage of me, but I will always remain firm on this point: it was a consensual relationship. Any 'abuse' came in the aftermath, when I was made a scapegoat in order to protect his powerful position," she said.
Lewinsky said she "deeply" regrets what happened between her and the leader of the free world. As for her silence all these years, she acknowledged "buzz" that she was paid off but insisted "nothing could be further from the truth."
Lewinsky said her notoriety for years has hurt her ability to get the kind of job she wants. She said she interviewed for communications jobs but was often told she wasn't "quite right" for the position, or was courted just to help companies get media attention.
Lewinsky revealed that she was "suicidal" during the height of the Clinton administration scandal, though never actually tried to kill herself. As for why she's coming forward, she said she wants to "get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment and to start speaking on this topic in public forums."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/06/monica-lewinsky-speaks-out-says-was-made-scapegoat/
She sold her memoirs for 12 million bucks and she's made millions from Jenny Craig and other appearances......I would love to be made a scapegoat for that amount of money
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She sold her memoirs for 12 million bucks and she's made millions from Jenny Craig and other appearances......I would love to be made a scapegoat for that amount of money
Good for her. She was demonized by the Clinton machine and will be a punchline for the rest of her life. I wouldn't want that for any amount of money, but I'm glad she is getting paid after what they put her through.
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For some reason I thought this thread was about Monica Lewinsky being attacked by Muslims.
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For some reason I thought this thread was about Monica Lewinsky being attacked by Muslims.
;D
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Good for her. She was demonized by the Clinton machine and will be a punchline for the rest of her life. I wouldn't want that for any amount of money, but I'm glad she is getting paid after what they put her through.
Do you believe she was just and innocent victim? Is she not equally responsible for the reputation she has? Wasn't Monica the one who made this affair public in the first place when she told a supposed friend about it?
Sorry, but a 23 year old, relatively intelligent intern, is not an innocent child who was forced to suck a married man's dick in the oval office. Clinton was stupid to get involved with her. Monica has profited much more from this event than Clinton ever did. Had this never happened and had she never revealed that it happened, she'd be a nobody today.
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Good for her. She was demonized by the Clinton machine and will be a punchline for the rest of her life. I wouldn't want that for any amount of money, but I'm glad she is getting paid after what they put her through.
Ho's don't deserve anything. She saved a dress with semen which clearly tells me that she was an opportunist.
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I dont understand the vicitmization thing.
She chose to blow a married man.
She chose to blow a public figure.
She chose to retain evidence of this blowing. (Bill probably would have never told anyone, EVER lol)
She got freaked out, and conducted a national campaign so everyone KNEW she blew him, "to protect herself".
Then, a news site covered it. Shocking?
And now, people want to say she's a victim because the news talked about a woman that publicly delivered evidence of an extra-marital affair with the most powerful man on earth?
Nope, sorry. She's written books, she's capitalized. She could have easily changed her name, learned to work from home, and we'd never have heard from her again. Instead, she's using her name to sell handbags, sell books, etc etc. She loves it. There's no victimization here. She's playing that hollywood game. I can't imagine pitying a liberal whore who publicly declares the affair, does TV shows and books, then cries "Why is the news covering this?"
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She is a typical liberal scumbag - literally. blame everyone else - take no responsibility for their actions, etc.
I dont understand the vicitmization thing.
She chose to blow a married man.
She chose to blow a public figure.
She chose to retain evidence of this blowing. (Bill probably would have never told anyone, EVER lol)
She got freaked out, and conducted a national campaign so everyone KNEW she blew him, "to protect herself".
Then, a news site covered it. Shocking?
And now, people want to say she's a victim because the news talked about a woman that publicly delivered evidence of an extra-marital affair with the most powerful man on earth?
Nope, sorry. She's written books, she's capitalized. She could have easily changed her name, learned to work from home, and we'd never have heard from her again. Instead, she's using her name to sell handbags, sell books, etc etc. She loves it. There's no victimization here. She's playing that hollywood game. I can't imagine pitying a liberal whore who publicly declares the affair, does TV shows and books, then cries "Why is the news covering this?"
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She is a typical liberal scumbag - literally. blame everyone else - take no responsibility for their actions, etc.
We are in agreement, my friend.
She's a punchline because she got a lawyer, went on TV, and put the story out there.
And "demonized by the clinton machine" - I'm not sure what they said that wasn't true lol. She blew him, repeatedly. She kept it a secret and got fcked with a cigar. Disgraced the Oval Office. Disrespected his marriage.
THEN she saved evidence of it. Then she got her own team and went public. IMO, she totally played Bubba, she totally planned it, she totally played the vicitm and was a straight up ho form minute now. Promising to keep a secret, as an ADULT, engaging in this act, then making a fortune from it.
She deserves no pity. Clinton deserves no pity. They're both scumbag liberal whores.
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Do you believe she was just and innocent victim? Is she not equally responsible for the reputation she has? Wasn't Monica the one who made this affair public in the first place when she told a supposed friend about it?
Sorry, but a 23 year old, relatively intelligent intern, is not an innocent child who was forced to suck a married man's dick in the oval office. Clinton was stupid to get involved with her. Monica has profited much more from this event than Clinton ever did. Had this never happened and had she never revealed that it happened, she'd be a nobody today.
No I don't believe she was innocent. She screwed around with a married man. Is she equally responsible? Reasonable minds could disagree. I say no, based on her age, job, and his position as literally the most powerful man on the planet. (Well, maybe next to Oprah.). A 23 or 24 year old is obviously an adult, but they are still maturing. The portion of their brain that allows them to appreciate the long term consequences of their actions is often still developing at that age.
No she didn't make it public. She had a private conversation with Linda Tripp who outed her.
What she didn't deserve was to become a nationwide pariah. And what happened to Clinton? He finished his term, got paid, and remains as popular as ever. Probably never stopped getting his freak on with young women.
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No I don't believe she was innocent. She screwed around with a married man. Is she equally responsible? Reasonable minds could disagree. I say no, based on her age, job, and his position as literally the most powerful man on the planet. (Well, maybe next to Oprah.). A 23 or 24 year old is obviously an adult, but they are still maturing. The portion of their brain that allows them to appreciate the long term consequences of their actions is often still developing at that age.
No she didn't make it public. She had a private conversation with Linda Tripp who outed her.
What she didn't deserve was to become a nationwide pariah. And what happened to Clinton? He finished his term, got paid, and remains as popular as ever. Probably never stopped getting his freak on with young women.
This is very important to me in terms of how I judge Lewinsky.
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Ho's don't deserve anything. She saved a dress with semen which clearly tells me that she was an opportunist.
What would have happened to her if she didn't save the dress? They were demonizing her, the president had already lied to the public. She would probably still be considered a lying groupie. I don't like setups, but given how things played out, I'm glad she eventually got paid.
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I dont understand the vicitmization thing.
She chose to blow a married man.
She chose to blow a public figure.
She chose to retain evidence of this blowing. (Bill probably would have never told anyone, EVER lol)
She got freaked out, and conducted a national campaign so everyone KNEW she blew him, "to protect herself".
Then, a news site covered it. Shocking?
And now, people want to say she's a victim because the news talked about a woman that publicly delivered evidence of an extra-marital affair with the most powerful man on earth?
Nope, sorry. She's written books, she's capitalized. She could have easily changed her name, learned to work from home, and we'd never have heard from her again. Instead, she's using her name to sell handbags, sell books, etc etc. She loves it. There's no victimization here. She's playing that hollywood game. I can't imagine pitying a liberal whore who publicly declares the affair, does TV shows and books, then cries "Why is the news covering this?"
My feelings exactly.
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I dont understand the vicitmization thing.
She chose to blow a married man.
She chose to blow a public figure.
She chose to retain evidence of this blowing. (Bill probably would have never told anyone, EVER lol)
She got freaked out, and conducted a national campaign so everyone KNEW she blew him, "to protect herself".
Then, a news site covered it. Shocking?
And now, people want to say she's a victim because the news talked about a woman that publicly delivered evidence of an extra-marital affair with the most powerful man on earth?
Nope, sorry. She's written books, she's capitalized. She could have easily changed her name, learned to work from home, and we'd never have heard from her again. Instead, she's using her name to sell handbags, sell books, etc etc. She loves it. There's no victimization here. She's playing that hollywood game. I can't imagine pitying a liberal whore who publicly declares the affair, does TV shows and books, then cries "Why is the news covering this?"
She was very intelligent about it, if you ask me.
Even if it was other people's ideas, she knew the right people to listen to!
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What would have happened to her if she didn't save the dress? They were demonizing her, the president had already lied to the public. She would probably still be considered a lying groupie. I don't like setups, but given how things played out, I'm glad she eventually got paid.
Let me explain this to your thick skull in easy steps:
1. Monica sucked off Billy in exchange for gifts, money, etc
2. When the gifts ran out, she went public and saved the dress
3. Billy got in trouble, Monica became famous and is now a multimillionaire because of a semen coated dress.
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Let me explain this to your thick skull in easy steps:
1. Monica sucked off Billy in exchange for gifts, money, etc
2. When the gifts ran out, she went public and saved the dress
3. Billy got in trouble, Monica became famous and is now a multimillionaire because of a semen coated dress.
1. What money, gifts, etc. did she receive from Clinton? She said she was in love with the man.
2. Wrong. Linda Tripp outed her. Get your facts straight.
3. Bill Clinton finished his presidency, made millions, has a net worth of more than $50 million, and remained popular after leaving office. Lewinsky was a social outcast for years and couldn't find work, suffered from depression, etc. I'm glad she finally made some money.
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1. What money, gifts, etc. did she receive from Clinton? She said she was in love with the man.
2. Wrong. Linda Tripp outed her. Get your facts straight.
3. Bill Clinton finished his presidency, made millions, has a net worth of more than $50 million, and remained popular after leaving office. Lewinsky was a social outcast for years and couldn't find work, suffered from depression, etc. I'm glad she finally made some money.
I find it hard to believe that Vince wouldn't have his facts straight. I demand you apologize to him.
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I find it hard to believe that Vince wouldn't have his facts straight. I demand you apologize to him.
:D
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Let me explain this to your thick skull in easy steps:
1. Monica sucked off Billy in exchange for gifts, money, etc
2. When the gifts ran out, she went public and saved the dress
3. Billy got in trouble, Monica became famous and is now a multimillionaire because of a semen coated dress.
Where you miss Lewinsky's pimp during the whole debacle?
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1. What money, gifts, etc. did she receive from Clinton? She said she was in love with the man.
2. Wrong. Linda Tripp outed her. Get your facts straight.
3. Bill Clinton finished his presidency, made millions, has a net worth of more than $50 million, and remained popular after leaving office. Lewinsky was a social outcast for years and couldn't find work, suffered from depression, etc. I'm glad she finally made some money.
You should marry her. No other man will, according to her.
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Where you miss Lewinsky's pimp during the whole debacle?
"Since the Lewinsky scandal, she became somewhat of a celebrity, appearing on Saturday Night Live, The Tom Green show, as well as countless interviews concerning the affair. Monica was paid $1 million endorse Jenny Craig in TV commercials. Lewinsky teamed with author Andrew Morton to publish the book Monica's Story in 1999. Her book advance reportedly $500,000. She also became a fashion designer, selling a collection of handbags under her name."
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/monica-lewinsky-net-worth/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/monica-lewinsky-net-worth/)
The pimp might have been Linda Tripp. Ever seen a photo of her?
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I say no, based on her age
WTF is up with this. SHE WAS 23 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
reminds me of Mccain blaming calling his wife the C-word in front of an audience - at age 55 - on his immaturity at the time..
I guess we should stop trying 23 year olds as adults for crimes? Sheesh.
and whether she told ONE person, or she told FIFTY people, SHE was the one that let the cat out of the bag, remember? She told a blabbermouth. And don't tell me she "accidentally" happened to save the sperm soaked DNA dress lol. Oops. We all forget to wash jizz off our nice work dresses ,keeping them wrapped in plastic for the memories LOL!
I'm shocked that anyone pities her. She screwed with a married guy. She told someone about it. She saved physical evidence of affair. She capitalized off the affair. She's a whore, we can't argue that. She did this as an ADULT at age 23. At 23, she can be a billionaire, she can be 5 years into a military career. She's a grown up. None of this bullshit that "Oh, she's only 23, let's all do cocaine and shoot at cops and fck anyone we want, we're just kids being kids...."
Stop excusing her disgusting, shady, sneaky behavior.
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"Since the Lewinsky scandal, she became somewhat of a celebrity, appearing on Saturday Night Live, The Tom Green show, as well as countless interviews concerning the affair. Monica was paid $1 million endorse Jenny Craig in TV commercials. Lewinsky teamed with author Andrew Morton to publish the book Monica's Story in 1999. Her book advance reportedly $500,000. She also became a fashion designer, selling a collection of handbags under her name."
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/monica-lewinsky-net-worth/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/monica-lewinsky-net-worth/)
The pimp might have been Linda Tripp. Ever seen a photo of her?
I have now. I wish i didnt.
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well she was not the only one was she? i saw a film about this young 19 year old who lost her cherry to Mr President. She at least claimed she did not regret it but refused to be used as a sex object by Friends. not having a go at Kennedy because he was a very popular Figure . I don´t think Monica Lewinsky is a poor little victim. She squealed on Clinton. She could have kept quite maybe got a pay off or other favours. She was a Greedy little Girl who later regretted it.
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You should marry her. No other man will, according to her.
Oh I'm sure some man will marry her.
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WTF is up with this. SHE WAS 23 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
reminds me of Mccain blaming calling his wife the C-word in front of an audience - at age 55 - on his immaturity at the time..
I guess we should stop trying 23 year olds as adults for crimes? Sheesh.
and whether she told ONE person, or she told FIFTY people, SHE was the one that let the cat out of the bag, remember? She told a blabbermouth. And don't tell me she "accidentally" happened to save the sperm soaked DNA dress lol. Oops. We all forget to wash jizz off our nice work dresses ,keeping them wrapped in plastic for the memories LOL!
I'm shocked that anyone pities her. She screwed with a married guy. She told someone about it. She saved physical evidence of affair. She capitalized off the affair. She's a whore, we can't argue that. She did this as an ADULT at age 23. At 23, she can be a billionaire, she can be 5 years into a military career. She's a grown up. None of this bullshit that "Oh, she's only 23, let's all do cocaine and shoot at cops and fck anyone we want, we're just kids being kids...."
Stop excusing her disgusting, shady, sneaky behavior.
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“She would gush that she had maneuvered into a position to grab his genitals with no one being the wiser, delighted to have given ‘the Big He’ a little love massage,” Tripp wrote about Lewinsky. Tripp claimed that Lewinsky told her in November of that year: “You absolutely won’t believe this, but I squeezed his balls right in the middle of throngs of people! This was quickly followed by a recitation of the celebrities there (‘I’ll bet none of them got to squeeze his balls!’) and catty remarks about [First Lady] Hillary [Clinton], who from that moment on was referred to disdainfully only as ‘the Ba Ba.’”
https://meaww.com/monica-lewinsky-told-colleague-squeezed-bill-clinton-balls-party-referred-hillary-the-ba-ba?fbclid=IwAR2GWXPaXjIZwR6VIwD21jIfmSdvfcJP6PwurQv8q2tcerSJ0GIs3iPGERI
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Monica Lewinsky asked for thong-flashing scene to be added in upcoming ‘American Crime Story’ series
New York Daily News ^ | 8/27/2021 | Joseph Wilkinson
Posted on 8/27/2021, 4:47:24 PM by simpson96
Monica Lewinsky said that she requested the infamous scene where she flashed her thong to then-President Bill Clinton be added to the upcoming series about their affair, “Impeachment: American Crime Story.”
Lewinsky, 48, was a producer on the show, and said the writers initially left the scene out.
“I would’ve loved to have been really selfish and said, ‘That’s great that you guys think we don’t have to show that, fantastic,’ but I’m incredibly experienced in understanding how people see this story,” she told The Hollywood Reporter.
Lewinsky noted that, just or not, she would have been blamed if the scene wasn’t included.
“So, ultimately, I felt two things: One was that I shouldn’t get a pass because I’m a producer,” she told THR. “And two, that it was unfair to the team and to the project because it would leave everybody vulnerable.”
Lead writer Sarah Burgess said she left the scene out because she didn’t want to further traumatize Lewinsky, THR reported.
“American Crime Story” showrunners first planned a Clinton/Lewinsky-based season in 2016, with Lewinsky joining the project in 2019. Showrunner Ryan Murphy told THR that he wouldn’t have pushed forward without Lewinsky’s approval.
Beanie Feldstein will star as Lewinsky, and the two talked constantly as production started and stopped throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, THR reported. No other people, including the Clintons, were consulted on their portrayal in the show, which premieres Sept. 7 on FX.
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Monica Lewinsky asked for thong-flashing scene to be added in upcoming ‘American Crime Story’ series
New York Daily News ^ | 8/27/2021 | Joseph Wilkinson
Posted on 8/27/2021, 4:47:24 PM by simpson96
Monica Lewinsky said that she requested the infamous scene where she flashed her thong to then-President Bill Clinton be added to the upcoming series about their affair, “Impeachment: American Crime Story.”
Lewinsky, 48, was a producer on the show, and said the writers initially left the scene out.
“I would’ve loved to have been really selfish and said, ‘That’s great that you guys think we don’t have to show that, fantastic,’ but I’m incredibly experienced in understanding how people see this story,” she told The Hollywood Reporter.
Lewinsky noted that, just or not, she would have been blamed if the scene wasn’t included.
“So, ultimately, I felt two things: One was that I shouldn’t get a pass because I’m a producer,” she told THR. “And two, that it was unfair to the team and to the project because it would leave everybody vulnerable.”
Lead writer Sarah Burgess said she left the scene out because she didn’t want to further traumatize Lewinsky, THR reported.
“American Crime Story” showrunners first planned a Clinton/Lewinsky-based season in 2016, with Lewinsky joining the project in 2019. Showrunner Ryan Murphy told THR that he wouldn’t have pushed forward without Lewinsky’s approval.
Beanie Feldstein will star as Lewinsky, and the two talked constantly as production started and stopped throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, THR reported. No other people, including the Clintons, were consulted on their portrayal in the show, which premieres Sept. 7 on FX.
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Monica has made a lifetime career out of Bill's and her little indiscretion in 1995. The scandal broke in 1998.
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Monica has made a lifetime career out of Bill's and her little indiscretion in 1995. The scandal broke in 1998.
Not much of a career. She's a punchline. And a victim.
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https://heavy.com/entertainment/monica-lewinsky-cigar-bill-clinton-brand
Unbelievable.
Take that cigar like a champ Monica!
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Not much of a career. She's a punchline. And a victim.
I imagine she expected much more mileage out of that blow job and Clinton's cum splattered blue dress. She made herself into a career victim. It wears thin after awhile. Clinton was a 'dog' who would have preferred she never mentioned any of it. But the irony is that she hurt her own reputation more than she hurt his. Hillary won the day as the ultimate 'stand by her man' wife.
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I imagine she expected much more mileage out of that blow job and Clinton's cum splattered blue dress. She made herself into a career victim. It wears thin after awhile. Clinton was a 'dog' who would have preferred she never mentioned any of it. But the irony is that she hurt her own reputation more than she hurt his. Hillary won the day as the ultimate 'stand by her man' wife.
I don't think Hillary was respected for sticking with Bill.
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I imagine she expected much more mileage out of that blow job and Clinton's cum splattered blue dress. She made herself into a career victim. It wears thin after awhile. Clinton was a 'dog' who would have preferred she never mentioned any of it. But the irony is that she hurt her own reputation more than she hurt his. Hillary won the day as the ultimate 'stand by her man' wife.
She didn't make herself a victim. She isn't the one who outed Bill Clinton. That was Linda Tripp.
Hillary Clinton won the day? lol Bruh you have to be trolling. People despise that woman.
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She didn't make herself a victim. She isn't the one who outed Bill Clinton. That was Linda Tripp.
Hillary Clinton won the day? lol Bruh you have to be trolling. People despise that woman.
People may despise HRC today, but that was not the case in 1998.
Who saved the cum stained navy blue dress and didn't get it cleaned? Was that Linda Tripp? Who has told their sordid story ad nauseum, including sharing her affair with Clinton after the fact with Tripp. Who wrote Monica's Story, her biography which included her side of the Clinton affair. The book was published in March 1999;
Linda Tripp was a piece of work for sure. She supposedly secretly taped conversations with Monica wherein Monica discussed the affair. It has been illegal to secretly tape conversations since 1968 (the wire tap act). So yeah, Linda was no saint.
If you think Monica is just a poor innocent victim who was coerced by a lecherous older man who happened to be President, that's your prerogative. She might have been an innocent 22 year old White House intern when she had that affair or she might have had ulterior motives.....no way to know. She's an educated 48 year old woman today who continues to play on an affair which happened 26 years ago. Linda might be who outed her, but she's made no attempt that I can see to downplay it and go on with her life.
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People may despise HRC today, but that was not the case in 1998.
Who saved the cum stained navy blue dress and didn't get it cleaned? Was that Linda Tripp? Who has told their sordid story ad nauseum, including sharing her affair with Clinton after the fact with Tripp. Who wrote Monica's Story, her biography which included her side of the Clinton affair. The book was published in March 1999;
Linda Tripp was a piece of work for sure. She supposedly secretly taped conversations with Monica wherein Monica discussed the affair. It has been illegal to secretly tape conversations since 1968 (the wire tap act). So yeah, Linda was no saint.
If you think Monica is just a poor innocent victim who was coerced by a lecherous older man who happened to be President, that's your prerogative. She might have been an innocent 22 year old White House intern when she had that affair or she might have had ulterior motives.....no way to know. She's an educated 48 year old woman today who continues to play on an affair which happened 26 years ago. Linda might be who outed her, but she's made no attempt that I can see to downplay it and go on with her life.
I don't recall Hillary Clinton ever having high favorability ratings. And back then, she was pilloried for attacking the women who accurately accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct.
I don't fault Monica one bit for trying to make money after she was abused by Bill and Hillary Clinton.
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People may despise HRC today, but that was not the case in 1998.
Who saved the cum stained navy blue dress and didn't get it cleaned? Was that Linda Tripp? Who has told their sordid story ad nauseum, including sharing her affair with Clinton after the fact with Tripp. Who wrote Monica's Story, her biography which included her side of the Clinton affair. The book was published in March 1999;
Linda Tripp was a piece of work for sure. She supposedly secretly taped conversations with Monica wherein Monica discussed the affair. It has been illegal to secretly tape conversations since 1968 (the wire tap act). So yeah, Linda was no saint.
If you think Monica is just a poor innocent victim who was coerced by a lecherous older man who happened to be President, that's your prerogative. She might have been an innocent 22 year old White House intern when she had that affair or she might have had ulterior motives.....no way to know. She's an educated 48 year old woman today who continues to play on an affair which happened 26 years ago. Linda might be who outed her, but she's made no attempt that I can see to downplay it and go on with her life.
People always hated Hillary.
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People may despise HRC today, but that was not the case in 1998.
Who saved the cum stained navy blue dress and didn't get it cleaned? Was that Linda Tripp? Who has told their sordid story ad nauseum, including sharing her affair with Clinton after the fact with Tripp. Who wrote Monica's Story, her biography which included her side of the Clinton affair. The book was published in March 1999;
Linda Tripp was a piece of work for sure. She supposedly secretly taped conversations with Monica wherein Monica discussed the affair. It has been illegal to secretly tape conversations since 1968 (the wire tap act). So yeah, Linda was no saint.
If you think Monica is just a poor innocent victim who was coerced by a lecherous older man who happened to be President, that's your prerogative. She might have been an innocent 22 year old White House intern when she had that affair or she might have had ulterior motives.....no way to know. She's an educated 48 year old woman today who continues to play on an affair which happened 26 years ago. Linda might be who outed her, but she's made no attempt that I can see to downplay it and go on with her life.
Linda Tripp should be labeled a hero in the current #metoo evironment.
In that context, it was a classic abuse of power/fame manipulation, whether she was coerced or not, as you put it.
As for not making an attempt to downplay it, why would she - Bill and HRC have not exactly been punished for it.
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Linda Tripp should be labeled a hero in the current #metoo evironment.
In that context, it was a classic abuse of power/fame manipulation, whether she was coerced or not, as you put it.
As for not making an attempt to downplay it, why would she - Bill and HRC have not exactly been punished for it.
Maybe downplay is the wrong term. I know a couple of women who were violently raped, one of them at knife point. This happened decades ago. Although the emotional scars last forever, they haven't kept talking about it, but have moved on as best as they could. Monica supposedly had an affair with Clinton...or she gave Clinton a one time blow job and thought it was an affair.
Why would HRC be punished for her husband's peccadillo? He was impeached. Although the Senate didn't prosecute him so like Trump he finished his term in office. What do you think would have been a more appropriate punishment?
Regardless of the Me Too environment, I disagree that Linda Tripp should be labeled a hero, unless Monica asked her to speak for her on this matter and there is no evidence that ever happened.
It would have been an abuse of power if Clinton suggested to Monica that she's lose her position as a White House intern if she didn't comply. They were both adults, although one could argue they were both adults who made dumb choices.
The 'victim', some highlights:
"As a result of the public coverage of the political scandal, Lewinsky gained international celebrity status. She subsequently engaged in a variety of ventures that included designing a line of handbags under her name, being an advertising spokesperson for a diet plan, and working as a television personality. Lewinsky later decided to leave the public spotlight to pursue a master's degree in psychology in London. In 2014, she returned to public view as a social activist speaking out against cyberbullying."
"In 1992, she allegedly began a five-year affair with Andy Bleiler, her married former high school drama instructor." (Was the Clinton 'affair' a pattern of behavior?)
She holds a bachelor's degree in psychology from Lewis And Clark college 1995
She got her Master's in Social Science from the London School of Economics in 2006
In 2014, Lewinsky wrote an essay for Vanity Fair magazine titled "Shame and Survival", wherein she discussed her life and the scandal.
In 2017, Lewinsky tweeted the #MeToo hashtag to indicate that she was a victim of sexual harassment and/or sexual assault, but did not provide details.
In 2020 Monica Lewinsky consulted of 'Impeachment: American Crime Story'.
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Maybe downplay is the wrong term. I know a couple of women who were violently raped, one of them at knife point. This happened decades ago. Although the emotional scars last forever, they haven't kept talking about it, but have moved on as best as they could. Monica supposedly had an affair with Clinton...or she gave Clinton a one time blow job and thought it was an affair.
Why would HRC be punished for her husband's peccadillo? He was impeached. Although the Senate didn't prosecute him so like Trump he finished his term in office. What do you think would have been a more appropriate punishment?
Regardless of the Me Too environment, I disagree that Linda Tripp should be labeled a hero, unless Monica asked her to speak for her on this matter and there is no evidence that ever happened.
It would have been an abuse of power if Clinton suggested to Monica that she's lose her position as a White House intern if she didn't comply. They were both adults, although one could argue they were both adults who made dumb choices.
The 'victim', some highlights:
"As a result of the public coverage of the political scandal, Lewinsky gained international celebrity status. She subsequently engaged in a variety of ventures that included designing a line of handbags under her name, being an advertising spokesperson for a diet plan, and working as a television personality. Lewinsky later decided to leave the public spotlight to pursue a master's degree in psychology in London. In 2014, she returned to public view as a social activist speaking out against cyberbullying."
"In 1992, she allegedly began a five-year affair with Andy Bleiler, her married former high school drama instructor." (Was the Clinton 'affair' a pattern of behavior?)
She holds a bachelor's degree in psychology from Lewis And Clark college 1995
She got her Master's in Social Science from the London School of Economics in 2006
In 2014, Lewinsky wrote an essay for Vanity Fair magazine titled "Shame and Survival", wherein she discussed her life and the scandal.
In 2017, Lewinsky tweeted the #MeToo hashtag to indicate that she was a victim of sexual harassment and/or sexual assault, but did not provide details.
In 2020 Monica Lewinsky consulted of 'Impeachment: American Crime Story'.
Hillary tried to destroy her and paula jones.
Hillary is a disgusting POS. Why do you liberals support this freak of nature?
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I don't recall Hillary Clinton ever having high favorability ratings. And back then, she was pilloried for attacking the women who accurately accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct.
I don't fault Monica one bit for trying to make money after she was abused by Bill and Hillary Clinton.
I'm not surprised you wouldn't recall this because it doesn't fit your narrative.
Published in Gallup in May 2012 - "Americans remain nearly as positive toward Hillary Clinton today as they have ever been over the past 20 years. The secretary of state's favorable rating remains at 66%, within one percentage point of her record-high rating in late 1998."
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I'm not surprised you wouldn't recall this because it doesn't fit your narrative.
Published in Gallup in May 2012 - "Americans remain nearly as positive toward Hillary Clinton today as they have ever been over the past 20 years. The secretary of state's favorable rating remains at 66%, within one percentage point of her record-high rating in late 1998."
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Did you read your own link? The graph shows aberrational, temporary spikes in her approval ratings. lol Yeah you got me there. ::)
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Did you read your own link? The graph shows aberrational, temporary spikes in her approval ratings. lol Yeah you got me there. ::)
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You posted, "I don't recall Hilary ever having high favorable ratings." So, yeah she's had low ratings which of course you know all about. You just conveniently can't recall the high ones in 1993, 1999, 2009 and 2012.
Clearly the public has had 'love/hate' feelings about her over the years. You have hate/hate feelings about her which is your prerogative.
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Maybe downplay is the wrong term. I know a couple of women who were violently raped, one of them at knife point. This happened decades ago. Although the emotional scars last forever, they haven't kept talking about it, but have moved on as best as they could. Monica supposedly had an affair with Clinton...or she gave Clinton a one time blow job and thought it was an affair.
Fair enough. However, they're not public figures. Monica couldn't move on from it if she tried, given a POTUS involvement.
Why would HRC be punished for her husband's peccadillo? He was impeached. Although the Senate didn't prosecute him so like Trump he finished his term in office. What do you think would have been a more appropriate punishment?
HRC has actively tried to ruin these women. If she was busted doing this in today's environment, her political career would be over, as would his. I actually didn't care at all what Clinton did with Lewinsky, but I DID care that he looked the nation directly in the eye, and said he didn't do it. I would have him removed for that.
It would have been an abuse of power if Clinton suggested to Monica that she's lose her position as a White House intern if she didn't comply. They were both adults, although one could argue they were both adults who made dumb choices.
Yeah, but I made the point about the context of today's environment for a reason. In today's definition, the very nature of his position compared to hers makes it abuse. No matter what. These are the rules the left plays by these days.
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You posted, "I don't recall Hilary ever having high favorable ratings." So, yeah she's had low ratings which of course you know all about. You just conveniently can't recall the high ones in 1993, 1999, 2009 and 2012.
Clearly the public has had 'love/hate' feelings about her over the years. You have hate/hate feelings about her which is your prerogative.
Oh please. The public has a hate relationship with Hillary Clinton. The only people who loved her were partisans like you. She was never popular outside of her base. That's why she lost to Trump. People hated her.
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Fair enough. However, they're not public figures. Monica couldn't move on from it if she tried, given a POTUS involvement.
Had not considered that no matter what, people will talk about this event long after both she and Clinton are gone....specially on Getbig. LOL
HRC has actively tried to ruin these women. If she was busted doing this in today's environment, her political career would be over, as would his. I actually didn't care at all what Clinton did with Lewinsky, but I DID care that he looked the nation directly in the eye, and said he didn't do it. I would have him removed for that.
Lying is the worst. I totally agree with you about this. It is rare when I politician shoots straight but when they do, I find it admirable. When I was a kid, my parents made sure I knew if I lied about something I did wrong, it made matters worse for me.
Yeah, but I made the point about the context of today's environment for a reason. In today's definition, the very nature of his position compared to hers makes it abuse. No matter what. These are the rules the left plays by these days.
Fortunately, the pendulum swings both ways. I'm waiting for it to settle down to where each situation can be looked at independently and a return to a time when people took responsibility for their own actions when there is fault on both sides, which is very often the case.
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Oh please. The public has a hate relationship with Hillary Clinton. The only people who loved her were partisans like you. She was never popular outside of her base. That's why she lost to Trump. People hated her.
You seem to love absolutes. Several of my friends who are decidedly Republican voted for Hilary in 2015. Do people actually 'love' politicians? Who knew? If they didn't 'love' her, they liked her better than they did her opponent.
IMO, Comey's letter cost her the election.
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You seem to love absolutes. Several of my friends who are decidedly Republican voted for Hilary in 2015. Do people actually 'love' politicians? Who knew? If they didn't 'love' her, they liked her better than they did her opponent.
IMO, Comey's letter cost her the election.
I see absolutes where there are absolutes. I see gray when it's actually gray.
What office did Hillary Clinton run for in 2015?
She lost for a lot more than Comey. She lost because she is one of the most dishonest and corrupt politicians in American history. Because her unfavorable ratings were historically high. She lost because of her abject dishonesty regarding Benghazi, her emails, etc. Because she showed gross negligence regarding classified intel. She lost because of her lack of authenticity.
Yes also because of Comey outing (but inappropriately refusing to recommend criminal charges) for her.
Anyone with a security clearance who had ONE classified document on their private server would literally go to jail. She had thousands. Then she deleted emails that were under subpoena, used Bleach Bit to scrub her computer, and had all of her employees literally smash all of their devices. I mean that is Hollywood gangster stuff. lol
It's also ironic that you talk about absolutes then say the only reason Clinton lost is because of Comey. :)
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I see absolutes where there are absolutes. I see gray when it's actually gray.
What office did Hillary Clinton run for in 2015?
She lost for a lot more than Comey. She lost because she is one of the most dishonest and corrupt politicians in American history. Because her unfavorable ratings were historically high. She lost because of her abject dishonesty regarding Benghazi, her emails, etc. Because she showed gross negligence regarding classified intel. She lost because of her lack of authenticity.
Yes also because of Comey outing (but inappropriately refusing to recommend criminal charges) for her.
Anyone with a security clearance who had ONE classified document on their private server would literally go to jail. She had thousands. Then she deleted emails that were under subpoena, used Bleach Bit to scrub her computer, and had all of her employees literally smash all of their devices. I mean that is Hollywood gangster stuff. lol
It's also ironic that you talk about absolutes then say the only reason Clinton lost is because of Comey. :)
Okay so it was 2016. You got me. Happy now?
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Okay so it was 2016. You got me. Happy now?
I don't play the gotcha game.
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Why doesn't this Lewinsky whore just go away? Why would she want to bring up such an embarrassing moment from her past every year or so? I guess attention whores will attention whore.
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I don't play the gotcha game.
You just did.
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You just did.
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