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Title: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: anabolichalo on December 20, 2012, 06:17:08 AM
imagine
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 20, 2012, 06:33:41 AM
Noone would work if they could "afford" it.

I do what I like to do and get money for that so I basically haven't worked a day in my life too.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: freespirit on December 20, 2012, 06:36:05 AM
True adonis doesn't work.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 20, 2012, 06:44:24 AM
Life too easy corrupts a person.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 20, 2012, 06:45:20 AM
Rich or Poor, you are never free from misery or despair, loss of a loved one.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 20, 2012, 06:48:42 AM
I like building and designing things and systems, without work I think I would become bored. It would be nice to have that option though.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: mass243 on December 20, 2012, 06:54:35 AM


Those are often the ones ending up using all kinds of drugs, getting in all kind of trouble etc as they seek content in their lives.
Those who got everything without doing anything can't appreciate what they have.

I'm talking about people who has had money from the early age and never worked. Not those who build themselves a fortune and then retire at 40 to enjoy life.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: MikMaq on December 20, 2012, 07:05:53 AM
Noone would work if they could "afford" it.

I do what I like to do and get money for that so I basically haven't worked a day in my life too.
What are you talking about, welfare is easy to get where I live and there's little stigma to getting it.

People work because they want to.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Nomad on December 20, 2012, 07:11:24 AM
True adonis doesn't work.

How does TA support his cooking and posting on GB lifestyle?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 20, 2012, 07:13:00 AM
How does TA support his cooking and posting on GB lifestyle?

Jezebelle is rich?

Maybe Adonis inherited a lot?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Marty Champions on December 20, 2012, 07:14:32 AM
imagine

yeah but youll end up with weak health and probably a limp wang look at the prince with kate middleton hes balding badly and not even 30 he's a big pussy probably cant even attain enough imagination to get a boner because he has no backbone
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: BayGBM on December 20, 2012, 07:18:56 AM
Noone would work if they could "afford" it.

I do what I like to do and get money for that so I basically haven't worked a day in my life too.

Wrong.  Plenty of people love their "jobs" and derive great satisfaction from going to work.  My mentor in graduate school was such a man.  He came from a well to do family and did not need to work at all.  He only taught in the fall semester and took the spring off to help raise his kids.  Except for working with is protégés he did not "work" in spring and summer.  He was also a very productive academic churning out a new monograph every few years.  And these weren't puff pieces; he was a national authority in his field and a widely respected scholar.  When he retired earlier this year, he thanked the university by endowing a scholarship that would support two students a year in perpetuity.  I know lots of professors who love their work.  I see a similar dynamic in Silicon Valley.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: dj181 on December 20, 2012, 07:21:07 AM
yeah but youll end up with weak health and probably a limp wang look at the prince with kate middleton hes balding badly and not even 30 he's a big pussy probably cant even attain enough imagination to get a boner because he has no backbone

spot on brother!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Tapeworm on December 20, 2012, 07:21:52 AM
Last I heard of the richest person I ever met, she was doing full time charity work.  Epic guilt, I guess.

I'm around people who have jobs all the time and they're assholes.  Fuck em.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: freespirit on December 20, 2012, 07:44:29 AM
Working is great if you don't have to.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: kh300 on December 20, 2012, 07:57:59 AM
I suggest reading the book 'your money or your life' I took a bit of a demotion a few months after reading it. Now I got tons of free time, working half the amount of hours. Less money coming in but way less going out.




Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 20, 2012, 08:02:01 AM
You don't have to be rich to not work
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: calfzilla on December 20, 2012, 08:02:21 AM
I would love not having to work. I don't understand how people say they would be bored. I have so many interests and hobbies I could never be bored.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: anabolichalo on December 20, 2012, 08:02:34 AM
I suggest reading the book 'your money or your life' I took a bit of a demotion a few months after reading it. Now I got tons of free time, working half the amount of hours. Less money coming in but way less going out.





because less fuel costs to get to work?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Grape Ape on December 20, 2012, 08:02:37 AM
Wrong.  Plenty of people love their "jobs" and derive great satisfaction from going to work.  My mentor in graduate school was such a man.  He came from a well to do family and did not need to work at all.  He only taught in the fall semester and took the spring off to help raise his kids.  Except for working with is protégés he did not "work" in spring and summer.  He was also a very productive academic churning out a new monograph every few years.  And these weren't puff pieces; he was a national authority in his field and a widely respected scholar.  When he retired earlier this year, he thanked the university by endowing a scholarship that would support two students a year in perpetuity.  I know lots of professors who love their work.  I see a similar dynamic in Silicon Valley.

This is completely true.  There are plenty of types who fit this mold.  Consider all those who have struck it rich, but continue to put in ridiculous hours.  For some, it's about the work as well as the money.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: kh300 on December 20, 2012, 08:25:29 AM
because less fuel costs to get to work?

In the book they suggest that you start writing down every penny you spend. After just the first month your like holy shit. I began to realize that work was causing me to spend more then I need. It makes you realize that most of our purchases are ego based. 75% of Americans live pay check to pay check. Almost 90% of Americans die in debt. We work all of our lives and have nothing to show for it. We buy things to show others we
made it' or to keep up with our friends and society. Always paying off credit cards, car loans, mortgage payments. Why was I spending insane amounts of money on the 2 vacations I take every year? to get away from work. When I was bored or had a day off why was I going out and buying things to make me feel better that I didn't really need? work. Why was I not cooking food and going out to eat all day? work. Why was I driving an expensive car? work. Why was I spending a fortune on suits and cloths? for work. I could go on forever. Then you look at the fact that if your work 8 hrs your really working like 10. Commute to work, time getting ready, things you have to take care of at home, 'decompression' after work,sleeping extra after a long day..etc.

I looked at my life and realized what I was doing. Ya I got that job I wanted, then that promotion. Went out and bought a new car and a big house. Then I realized wtf is the point? Now I'm giving up my free time and cant do the things I love. Plus I realized the things I love to do don't require a lot of money. Buddhism talks about desire being the source of suffering. This has been true in my experience. The mind desires and lives in a perpetual state of lack. Being at peace with life as is, is the key. What you call boring (living without desire) I call liberation. Yes, on a biological level we do need to survive. It's programmed into us via evolution. However a house, car, electronics, etc. has been conditioned into us by society,media,tv. You really don't need that stuff and you shouldn't waste your life pursuing them.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: calfzilla on December 20, 2012, 10:34:15 AM
In the book they suggest that you start writing down every penny you spend. After just the first month your like holy shit. I began to realize that work was causing me to spend more then I need. It makes you realize that most of our purchases are ego based. 75% of Americans live pay check to pay check. Almost 90% of Americans die in debt. We work all of our lives and have nothing to show for it. We buy things to show others we
made it' or to keep up with our friends and society. Always paying off credit cards, car loans, mortgage payments. Why was I spending insane amounts of money on the 2 vacations I take every year? to get away from work. When I was bored or had a day off why was I going out and buying things to make me feel better that I didn't really need? work. Why was I not cooking food and going out to eat all day? work. Why was I driving an expensive car? work. Why was I spending a fortune on suits and cloths? for work. I could go on forever. Then you look at the fact that if your work 8 hrs your really working like 10. Commute to work, time getting ready, things you have to take care of at home, 'decompression' after work,sleeping extra after a long day..etc.

I looked at my life and realized what I was doing. Ya I got that job I wanted, then that promotion. Went out and bought a new car and a big house. Then I realized wtf is the point? Now I'm giving up my free time and cant do the things I love. Plus I realized the things I love to do don't require a lot of money. Buddhism talks about desire being the source of suffering. This has been true in my experience. The mind desires and lives in a perpetual state of lack. Being at peace with life as is, is the key. What you call boring (living without desire) I call liberation. Yes, on a biological level we do need to survive. It's programmed into us via evolution. However a house, car, electronics, etc. has been conditioned into us by society,media,tv. You really don't need that stuff and you shouldn't waste your life pursuing them.

Excellent post. I have done a lot of this stuff but I need to take it a step further like you describe here. I also like to read articles on zenhabits.net.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: BIG ACH on December 20, 2012, 10:38:11 AM
I know a lot of people that don't need to work but still do.  Millionaires with their own business, it becomes a game to them or a passion, how much further can I take my business, how much more can I expand, what can I do to be the best in my field!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: MichaelScottDM on December 20, 2012, 10:40:33 AM
The only thing important in my opinion is putting a nice roof over your head and taking care of your family. The rest i.e vacations, nice cars and fancy clothes and appliances is just a waste. I'd rather have a nice home in a safe area and crappy economy cars compared to garbage rental apartment and new luxury cars.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 20, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
I know a lot of people that don't need to work but still do.  Millionaires with their own business, it becomes a game to them or a passion, how much further can I take my business, how much more can I expand, what can I do to be the best in my field!

Echoing what Habibi Achmed said, it happens every day.  People are born into wealthy families that have pretty much lined up their children's future.

Some of those folks live a life of leisure, others prefer to engage themselves with the workforce and further expand upon their wealth.

"1"
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: sync pulse on December 20, 2012, 10:43:20 AM
One long staircase just going up;
and one even longer coming down;
and one leading nowhere just for show.


Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Natural Man on December 20, 2012, 10:44:24 AM
a lot of star childs can tell you about it. No wonder they end sniffing coke at 16 yo.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 20, 2012, 10:44:59 AM
Id love to have a dad who had earne enuf so I wouldnt have to work, and live in free society that wouldnt take his money for dying.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: The True Adonis on December 20, 2012, 10:47:32 AM
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 20, 2012, 10:51:32 AM
there were no robber barons

there were men who made it on sheer ability

there were some who used govenment to get ahead, they were collectivists

vanderbilt beat gov sactioned riverbaots with lower price, some trips free and he hoped your buy food

see tom woods on youtube

amazing

government school lied
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: BIG ACH on December 20, 2012, 10:58:06 AM

Here's some food for thought.... 

My grandfather did very well for himself, was president of some very big companies, started his own consulting firm that landed a number of very high profile jobs, and also helped my father start his own company and when that company took off he sat on the board as the chairman.

My grandfather died last year and was 91 years old....  he went to his office and worked EVERYDAY until the day he died!  Only taking vacation on national holidays really.  And believe you me, he could've stopped working at 50 and lived very very very comfortably!  But he just didn't!  He loved what he did too much!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: mame09 on December 20, 2012, 11:07:35 AM
your meant to work to live not live to work
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Man of Steel on December 20, 2012, 11:12:38 AM
Noone would work if they could "afford" it.

I do what I like to do and get money for that so I basically haven't worked a day in my life too.

Blech!!  Vomit!   ;D
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 20, 2012, 11:16:24 AM
imagine learning to program computers on a home pc that you loaded with archlinux or freebsd

imagine getting paid 80/hour to do it after 3 years

imagine buying a house and having a fireplace

all because you leanred tchnical skills in demand and found jobs on dice.com

imagine then after earing your money they wana take it and give it to some lazy wanker
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: kh300 on December 20, 2012, 11:28:15 AM
Isn't it funny if you ask a kid what they want to be when they grow up they say a princess or a super hero or some shit. Then by the time they're grown up they say doctor, lawyer, wall street exec. Whenever I meet someone and they ask me what I do, I say I just hiked all 49 peaks in the Adirondack mountains, I'm 25 states into riding my motorcycle across all 50 states. I'm a quarter way done with section hiking the Appalachian trail. I just competed in my first bass tournament, I have a power lifting meet in a few months, I'm working on this or that. Then they say no no, what do you do for work?

Why the fuck does or jobs define who we are? I'm proud of my job and what I've accomplished but its not who I am or what I do, and honestly I'm sick of going to work. I figure by the time I'm 35 I'll be able to work as a part time police officer.

I think this guys got life figured out. He's a bit of a redneck but he's got the right idea that we live in so much excess. He built this for $2,000 and has no utility bills. Oh but wait according to my tv I need a 5,000 square foot house to be happy  ::)

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 20, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Isn't it funny if you ask a kid what they want to be when they grow up they say a princess or a super hero or some shit. Then by the time they're grown up they say doctor, lawyer, wall street exec. Whenever I meet someone and they ask me what I do, I say I just hiked all 49 peaks in the Adirondack mountains, I'm 25 states into riding my motorcycle across all 50 states. I'm a quarter way done with section hiking the Appalachian trail. I just competed in my first bass tournament, I have a power lifting meet in a few months, I'm working on this or that. Then they say no no, what do you do for work?

Why the fuck does or jobs define who we are? I'm proud of my job and what I've accomplished but its not who I am or what I do, and honestly I'm sick of going to work. I figure by the time I'm 35 I'll be able to work as a part time police officer.

I think this guys got life figured out. He's a bit of a redneck but he's got the right idea that we live in so much excess. He built this for $2,000 and has no utility bills. Oh but wait according to my tv I need a 5,000 square foot house to be happy  ::)




well cuz any homo can drive around n fool around in mountains once they made some cash
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: kh300 on December 20, 2012, 11:33:39 AM

well cuz any homo can drive around n fool around in mountains once they made some cash

Any fool can take out a mortgage and make payments his whole life just to keep up with Mr. Jones down the street. Fuck now Mr. Jones got a new lexus. I hope my credit's good this month so I can take out another loan.

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: affeman on December 20, 2012, 11:35:08 AM
imagine

There are plenty of guys. If you think that's a fulfilling life, I don't think so. I don't envy guys like this.

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Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 06:06:15 AM
What are you talking about, welfare is easy to get where I live and there's little stigma to getting it.

People work because they want to.


Idk whether you could live a "nice life" out of that welfare, I believe that - no. And no -most people work because they NEED TO, they sell their time, and a small percentage really like what they do.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 06:09:24 AM
Wrong.  Plenty of people love their "jobs" and derive great satisfaction from going to work.  My mentor in graduate school was such a man.  He came from a well to do family and did not need to work at all.  He only taught in the fall semester and took the spring off to help raise his kids.  Except for working with is protégés he did not "work" in spring and summer.  He was also a very productive academic churning out a new monograph every few years.  And these weren't puff pieces; he was a national authority in his field and a widely respected scholar.  When he retired earlier this year, he thanked the university by endowing a scholarship that would support two students a year in perpetuity.  I know lots of professors who love their work.  I see a similar dynamic in Silicon Valley.

What about other millions of people who get up early in the morning and go to that office/walmart/car dealership/window cleaning/bus driving/manufactury of some stupid shit/etc etc... These are the biggest part of a society, professors, silicon Valley professionals and other similar people - they are a fraction in an ocean. Just like rich are.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 06:11:41 AM
I would love not having to work. I don't understand how people say they would be bored. I have so many interests and hobbies I could never be bored.

Exactly. These who are afraid to be "bored" in such a scenario - must be a VERY dull people with a serious lack of imagination. The world is so damn interesting, tons and tons of stuff to do/try/explore (not drugs or other shit. That's for imbeciles, who get drunk when they doesn't work and that's all they know..)..
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 06:15:41 AM
I know a lot of people that don't need to work but still do.  Millionaires with their own business, it becomes a game to them or a passion, how much further can I take my business, how much more can I expand, what can I do to be the best in my field!

They are millionaires because they did something that drove them/motivated a lot, NOT because they were striving to become millionaires, at least not directly, in most cases. That's why most of you will never be ones, because you think that these people "work even when they are millionaires", well they does not work, they just have fun (in "leveling" at the millionaire club, or acquiring more power/respect/etc.. in some circles and so on..). ANd some are simply workaholics, they'll burn-out and crash one day..
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 21, 2012, 06:22:18 AM
 :)
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: anabolichalo on December 21, 2012, 06:33:03 AM
heheh^^^^^^^^^^


it's the punishment of Jehova for eating the fruit
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Borracho on December 21, 2012, 06:48:50 AM
What about other millions of people who get up early in the morning and go to that office/walmart/car dealership/window cleaning/bus driving/manufactury of some stupid shit/etc etc... These are the biggest part of a society, professors, silicon Valley professionals and other similar people - they are a fraction in an ocean. Just like rich are.

These are the ones that failed to prepare and now suffer for it. They rather be doing something else but they're stuck with a kid or two, car payments, rent, etc.

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 06:57:50 AM
These are the ones that failed to prepare and now suffer for it. They rather be doing something else but they're stuck with a kid or two, car payments, rent, etc.



You are talking about a majority of a population. I'm pretty sure that most getbiggers would fit into that approximate image^^ (aside unemployed opiate addicts, sociopaths, and generally - head issues suffering individuals. We talk a specific "circle"here, afterall..), even if they would not like to admit that.

Oh, I forgot - most here are actually self made millionaires, ballin', with three V.Secret bitches on a side, driving exotic cars and doing nothing but living off their fortune and preaching others about a "proper life model"  ::)
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: anabolichalo on December 21, 2012, 07:22:46 AM
just saw a job vacancy in china with english translation next to it (just came across this accidentally)

underneath it all was this quote

Cease to struggle and you cease to live. -- Thomas Carlyle .wigh.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Tito24 on December 21, 2012, 07:54:20 AM
Rich or Poor, you are never free from misery or despair, loss of a loved one.

x2 thats why i dont understand people who are already rich wants to become richer, its not that you can spread the money over a few lifes.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 09:11:34 AM
just saw a job vacancy in china with english translation next to it (just came across this accidentally)

underneath it all was this quote

Cease to struggle and you cease to live. -- Thomas Carlyle .wigh.

"Famous" quotes are not always right or having a "deeper meaning".
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: snx on December 21, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
In the book they suggest that you start writing down every penny you spend. After just the first month your like holy shit. I began to realize that work was causing me to spend more then I need. It makes you realize that most of our purchases are ego based. 75% of Americans live pay check to pay check. Almost 90% of Americans die in debt. We work all of our lives and have nothing to show for it. We buy things to show others we
made it' or to keep up with our friends and society. Always paying off credit cards, car loans, mortgage payments. Why was I spending insane amounts of money on the 2 vacations I take every year? to get away from work. When I was bored or had a day off why was I going out and buying things to make me feel better that I didn't really need? work. Why was I not cooking food and going out to eat all day? work. Why was I driving an expensive car? work. Why was I spending a fortune on suits and cloths? for work. I could go on forever. Then you look at the fact that if your work 8 hrs your really working like 10. Commute to work, time getting ready, things you have to take care of at home, 'decompression' after work,sleeping extra after a long day..etc.

I looked at my life and realized what I was doing. Ya I got that job I wanted, then that promotion. Went out and bought a new car and a big house. Then I realized wtf is the point? Now I'm giving up my free time and cant do the things I love. Plus I realized the things I love to do don't require a lot of money. Buddhism talks about desire being the source of suffering. This has been true in my experience. The mind desires and lives in a perpetual state of lack. Being at peace with life as is, is the key. What you call boring (living without desire) I call liberation. Yes, on a biological level we do need to survive. It's programmed into us via evolution. However a house, car, electronics, etc. has been conditioned into us by society,media,tv. You really don't need that stuff and you shouldn't waste your life pursuing them.

^^^^wisdom in your post above. Nicely put.

I went through a similar cleansing. I'm no buddhist, but there's truth there. Chuck Palahniuk talks about it in his novel Fight Club. I dumped a lot of work off my plate and simplified my life. I spend time doing what I find myself to be most passionate about. Dumped the stupid expensive car and house, and sunk money into investments in simplified fashion...investments that were more liquid to finance a more liquid lifestyle to my suiting.

The trappings of modern society are many and varied and nearly all are seductive. It's not easy to say no.

You won't find happiness in an increased standard of living. When your standard of living goes up, chances are, your happiness in life is going to go down.

There's some old human resources type study out there that shows that human satisfaction with life in general peaks around the 75K-80K earnings mark. Past that, the job requires much more than people think it does to earn the money, and the sacrifices needed often outweigh the benefits. The money sounds nice up front, but later on, can become an albatross. Likewise, being poor is often not synonymous with happiness.

As humans, we're programmed to want more than yesterday. But we don't realize we don't need as much as we think we do to be happy.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: anabolichalo on December 21, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
driving significan distance to work is bad too

you lose money on the fuel

and time on the road

a certain pointlessness to it all
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: King Shizzo on December 21, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Noone would work if they could "afford" it.

I do what I like to do and get money for that so I basically haven't worked a day in my life too.
So you suck cock for a living?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: da_vinci on December 21, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
So you suck cock for a living?

Your mom does.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: King Shizzo on December 21, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
 ;D
Your mom does.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 21, 2012, 06:02:05 PM
What some people call work is actually just living life. If you're not passionate about what you do to make a living, you'll probably find yourself daydreaming about being rich and quitting your job etc. The best thing imop a born rich person can do with their life is either create a business and put people to work, or do charity work. Charity work in itself can be like a full time job.

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Natural Man on December 21, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
we re designed to be relieved only after we produced an effort, no effort, no relief. You lazy immature asshole.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 21, 2012, 06:26:05 PM
Imagine being born in USA and taught to belive that you can't rise above being poor by working hard and learning.

What a load of shit.


Learn to program
perl
python
php
java
c

learn database
postgresql

learn unix lnux bsd

archlinux
freebsd
opensolaris


get bachelors in history and then get law degree

manage a freakin mcdonalds

unlimited wants and unlimited work to be done
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: cephissus on December 21, 2012, 06:34:18 PM
They are millionaires because they did something that drove them/motivated a lot, NOT because they were striving to become millionaires, at least not directly, in most cases. That's why most of you will never be ones, because you think that these people "work even when they are millionaires", well they does not work, they just have fun (in "leveling" at the millionaire club, or acquiring more power/respect/etc.. in some circles and so on..). ANd some are simply workaholics, they'll burn-out and crash one day..

good post, for once!

"Famous" quotes are not always right or having a "deeper meaning".

but then, the quote was correct in this case...

anyway, i think we need syntax to get in here so we can clear up the meanings we've all attached to the sign "work"

:D
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 21, 2012, 06:39:33 PM
"Famous" quotes are not always right or having a "deeper meaning".
just saw a job vacancy in china with english translation next to it (just came across this accidentally)

underneath it all was this quote

Cease to struggle and you cease to live. -- Thomas Carlyle .wigh.

Agreed, one of my favourite quotes that highlights this is "All generalisations are dangerous, including this one." - Alexandre Dumas
The quote "Cease to struggle and you cease to live." is bullshit, if your life is nothing but struggle, you are very far from living!  Living is in the middle, in between ease and struggle.  If you are struggling a lot, it means you haven't developed the strength to find the middle ground.  When a child learns to walk, it is a struggle, once mastered it is easy.  Same with life, when you first start out if is very difficult, once mastered it is easy!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Tapeworm on December 21, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
we re designed to be relieved only after we produced an effort, no effort, no relief. You lazy immature asshole.

No wonder you're cranky. You're constipated.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: BIG ACH on December 21, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
They are millionaires because they did something that drove them/motivated a lot, NOT because they were striving to become millionaires, at least not directly, in most cases. That's why most of you will never be ones, because you think that these people "work even when they are millionaires", well they does not work, they just have fun (in "leveling" at the millionaire club, or acquiring more power/respect/etc.. in some circles and so on..). ANd some are simply workaholics, they'll burn-out and crash one day..

Agreed 100%  everything I've read About self made millionaires says that they were not in it for The money, they were in it out of passion, as I said they genuinely love that they so and want to take it further.... as far as they possibly can
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 21, 2012, 09:38:55 PM
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Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: 99 Bananas on December 21, 2012, 09:58:35 PM
The only question you need to answer right now is... are you getting enough? If not you'll continue thinking and acting until you get enough. What it is that you want I don't know. People seek knowledge, drugs, food, and shelter in some form. It's the game of life and people buy and sell it many different ways.
Some people know that they want and don't want things and act very strategically in the game of life. This is as free as we can be as long as we're in control and think of the human as an instrument.(or whatever your means of harnessing this things is) This human instrument has no values or cares in the world. It just wishes to maintain the life cycle as the cut on your arm healing without your volition shows. It just requires food and shelter to move on. Now as conscious beings we can go from there and look at the game of life and choose what we wish to work for. Mindfully attain what you desire after we've attained what is necessary. Do what you do without an attachment to whether or not it gets done. You do your best regardless of the results.
 
On the other hand we have people who are blown about by the winds of desire. Mindlessly pushed around by their senses. A house here and a car there. Some kids and a wife. Or multiple wives if you're especially off your rocker. They don't adhere to strict principles. They get angry and act accordingly. Get happy and act accordingly. People driven by things that they imagine will instill a certain feeling in others. They think that if they get that nice car people will look at them the way they'd like. Few people have mastered the self enough to act the same way they would in one circumstance as they would in any. Real truth.

The body is a perfect servant and a lousy master.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 22, 2012, 12:20:56 AM
great products at god prices

that ssecert of success
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 12:30:20 AM
What are you talking about, welfare is easy to get where I live and there's little stigma to getting it.

People work because they want to.


If that's the case, please give up the idea of moving to the U.S. we sure as heck don't need more folks on the dole. Did I mention that mental healthcare sucks in the U.S. You'll be stuck living in a cardboard box in some alley. If welfare is so easy where you are, you'd be an idiot to leave there for here. Not sure you'd get visa anyway.

Where I come from, people work because that's how they make money. Some folks like their work and some just like the paycheck which pays the rent and provides a smattering of little pleasures.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 22, 2012, 12:33:00 AM
prime what have u produced?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
prime what have u produced?

Two beautiful and intelligent children who have grown up to be successful adults with beautiful and intelligent children of their own. You?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 22, 2012, 12:37:13 AM
Two beautiful and intelligent children who have grown up to be successful adults with beautiful and intelligent children of their own. You?
Being a Sperm Donor doesn't count!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 12:45:34 AM
Being a Sperm Donor doesn't count!

Depends on ones perspective. During my lifetime, I've experience material wealth and in my opinion, it doesn't compare to to good loving relationships. Maybe having ones material needs met when they are young gives one more appreciation for the things money cannot buy. You cannot buy a loving family or good friends. I am fortunate to have both.

I think you should have added  ::) to your reply because it has to be more of your sarcasm or I will lose faith in you and your replies.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 22, 2012, 12:48:13 AM
Depends on ones perspective. During my lifetime, I've experience material wealth and in my opinion, it doesn't compare to to good loving relationships. Maybe having ones material needs met when they are young gives one more appreciation for the things money cannot buy. You cannot buy a loving family or good friends. I am fortunate to have both.

I think you should have added  ::) to your reply because it has to be more of your sarcasm or I will lose faith in you and your replies.
I was only stirring you! I agree, Money actually tripped me up, and forced me to re-evaluate my life, having good relationships definitely does contribute to ones health, well being and happiness!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Griffith on December 22, 2012, 12:54:43 AM
In the book they suggest that you start writing down every penny you spend. After just the first month your like holy shit. I began to realize that work was causing me to spend more then I need. It makes you realize that most of our purchases are ego based. 75% of Americans live pay check to pay check. Almost 90% of Americans die in debt. We work all of our lives and have nothing to show for it. We buy things to show others we
made it' or to keep up with our friends and society. Always paying off credit cards, car loans, mortgage payments. Why was I spending insane amounts of money on the 2 vacations I take every year? to get away from work. When I was bored or had a day off why was I going out and buying things to make me feel better that I didn't really need? work. Why was I not cooking food and going out to eat all day? work. Why was I driving an expensive car? work. Why was I spending a fortune on suits and cloths? for work. I could go on forever. Then you look at the fact that if your work 8 hrs your really working like 10. Commute to work, time getting ready, things you have to take care of at home, 'decompression' after work,sleeping extra after a long day..etc.

I looked at my life and realized what I was doing. Ya I got that job I wanted, then that promotion. Went out and bought a new car and a big house. Then I realized wtf is the point? Now I'm giving up my free time and cant do the things I love. Plus I realized the things I love to do don't require a lot of money. Buddhism talks about desire being the source of suffering. This has been true in my experience. The mind desires and lives in a perpetual state of lack. Being at peace with life as is, is the key. What you call boring (living without desire) I call liberation. Yes, on a biological level we do need to survive. It's programmed into us via evolution. However a house, car, electronics, etc. has been conditioned into us by society,media,tv. You really don't need that stuff and you shouldn't waste your life pursuing them.

Excellent post.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 01:16:03 AM
I was only stirring you! I agree, Money actually tripped me up, and forced me to re-evaluate my life, having good relationships definitely does contribute to ones health, well being and happiness!

One of the best times of my wife's and my married life was when we were pretty young and dumb and moved to Canada to homestead with friends. We didn't plan for my not working in the winter and we barely had any money to get by. Even though money was definitely an issue, our relationship grew stronger....perhaps because we didn't have enough money for distractions, who knows. We only stayed in Williams Lake, B.C. for about 9 months before we tucked tail and moved home, thanks to my aunt's  kind generosity (we didn't have enough money of our own left to get back).

Somewhere in a suitcase in the attic is a photo of me at 4 years old in a Sailor suit, standing on the deck of the SS ile de France in New York harbor as my grandmother and I were about to "sail" to France. I was looking down at my mother standing on the dock and crying my eyes out because I didn't want to leave her. I didn't see my mother again for almost two years, but I lived like a little prince attending a French nursery school in the mornings and a German school in the afternoons. In the evenings, I ate dinner with the help because my aunt and uncle, a diplomat, were almost always entertaining dignitaries. When I returned to the U.S. I no longer spoke English, just French and German.

Happiness is a matter of perspective.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 22, 2012, 03:03:17 AM
Few people have mastered the self enough to act the same way they would in one circumstance as they would in any. Real truth.

The body is a perfect servant and a lousy master.


About 4 months ago I left my girlfriend. Could not stand living with her anymore. I decided to be as happy as I could be, by myself. I then now met a new girl, who is attractive, intelligent and nice. The first couple of dates she did not know if I was interested in her or not, since I now enjoy all the freedoms I have as a single man: Getting home late from the gym, eating late .. going to parties just to have fun.. etc.

My advice for all Getbiggers: Don't wait impatiently for wife and kids, a promotion or something else.. get the best out of every single day. This way you will be happy.  :)
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: dj181 on December 22, 2012, 03:05:59 AM
About 4 months ago I left my girlfriend. Could not stand living with her anymore. I decided to be as happy as I could be, by myself. I then now met a new girl, who is attractive, intelligent and nice. The first couple of dates she did not know if I was interested in her or not, since I now enjoy all the freedoms I have as a single man: Getting home late from the gym, eating late .. going to parties just to have fun.. etc.

My advice for all Getbiggers: Don't wait impatiently for wife and kids, a promotion or something else.. get the best out of every single day. This way you will be happy.  :)

any pics of these 2 danish hotties :P
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
About 4 months ago I left my girlfriend. Could not stand living with her anymore. I decided to be as happy as I could be, by myself. I then now met a new girl, who is attractive, intelligent and nice. The first couple of dates she did not know if I was interested in her or not, since I now enjoy all the freedoms I have as a single man: Getting home late from the gym, eating late .. going to parties just to have fun.. etc.

My advice for all Getbiggers: Don't wait impatiently for wife and kids, a promotion or something else.. get the best out of every single day. This way you will be happy.  :)

People often change their behavior when they meet someone they are romantically interested in. I think this is a mistake. Be yourself and insist they do the same. Most everyone can put on an act for a little while, but in the end the must be true to themselves to be happy.

I speak from some experience, having been with the same woman for 50 years, 48 of them in marriage. We are each still very independent.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 22, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
They are millionaires because they did something that drove them/motivated a lot, NOT because they were striving to become millionaires, at least not directly, in most cases. That's why most of you will never be ones, because you think that these people "work even when they are millionaires", well they does not work, they just have fun (in "leveling" at the millionaire club, or acquiring more power/respect/etc.. in some circles and so on..). ANd some are simply workaholics, they'll burn-out and crash one day..

I watched an interesting documentary a few years back on Charles Goodyear inventor of today's rubber. He was put in prison from debt collectors because of business's that failed. He was an eccentric who said something along the lines of he can't stop creating things that its a divine power that's pushing him. Really interesting stuff. If his rubber never came to be, he would have been looked at as a crazy man who failed. Such a fine line between genius and crazy.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: che on December 22, 2012, 06:39:38 PM
having been with the same woman for 50 years, 48 of them in marriage. We are each still very independent.

Basically  you are just roommates.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 06:51:28 PM
Basically  you are just roommates.

Or the best of friends.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 22, 2012, 06:58:19 PM
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 22, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
Lots of commy have nots in this thread.

Sure, without the material things you can still exist, but its those things that make life interesting.

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: deadz on December 22, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
Lots of commy have nots in this thread.

Sure, without the material things you can still exist, but its those things that make life interesting.


Shouldn't you be delivering boxes instead of posting. This is DHL's busy season, no?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 23, 2012, 05:05:51 AM
Basically  you are just roommates.
Or enemies who have agreed to a stand-down!
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 23, 2012, 05:07:33 AM
imagine

good question for big ach.  he dabbles in "work" from time to time though.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: magikusar on December 23, 2012, 07:26:09 AM
Lots of commy have nots in this thread.

Sure, without the material things you can still exist, but its those things that make life interesting.



Show what massive losers many people are in modern age.   People unwilling to learn any technology or business skills ever.  People who really do think the world owes them a living.  The worlkd was here first you wankers.   Men are not equal.   One man can prduce 100 time what another can. You deserve nothing for showing up.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 23, 2012, 10:20:23 AM
Lots of commy have nots in this thread.

Sure, without the material things you can still exist, but its those things that make life interesting.



Actually its the people that make it interesting but I understand your point. Now that shit has gone global, trying to keep up with the material aspect of things on a modest income is going to drive a lot of people bat shit crazy. Things are moving extremely fast.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Gregzs on December 23, 2012, 01:40:12 PM
Why imagine? It has been covered: this HBO documentary was made by one of the Johnson heirs (Band-Aids, etc.)

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
Or enemies who have agreed to a stand-down!

Nope. Amazingly, my wife and I are two independent people who have a huge amount of respect for each other and are still together because we love each other deeply and love being together. However, my mom and step dad were more like enemies who more or less agreed to stand-down. They were together for over 30 years until my stepfather died of lung cancer. Every relationship is different.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Radical Plato on December 23, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
Nope. Amazingly, my wife and I are two independent people who have a huge amount of respect for each other and are still together because we love each other deeply and love being together. However, my mom and step dad were more like enemies who more or less agreed to stand-down. They were together for over 30 years until my stepfather died of lung cancer. Every relationship is different.
Always hard to tell what's going on with two people, my parents were married 43 years, and kept up a façade of being OK for years, but, the truth was, in the end, they fought all the time, resented one another deeply and no longer could stand the sight of each other, so they finally separated.  ironically, both my Mother and Fathers parents also separated after about 43 years of marriage.  It's great you find yourself in a good place after such a long marriage, kind of rare these days.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: oldman on December 23, 2012, 07:23:04 PM
Americans are funny people, they don't realize when they are happy and keep pursuing "things" thinking that will make them happy.  "Things" can't make a person happy.

Lead a simple life and buy things if you need them, not to impress somebody.  Work hard and be honest, the harder I work, the luckier I am.

I don't care what you make, or what you have, it can all be taken away.  Then what...

This holiday season, join me in serving food at a homeless shelter, help someone.  Bring your family with you, if you have one.  Don't be self centered.

Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: dj181 on December 23, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
Americans are funny people, they don't realize when they are happy and keep pursuing "things" thinking that will make them happy.  "Things" can't make a person happy.

Lead a simple life and buy things if you need them, not to impress somebody.  Work hard and be honest, the harder I work, the luckier I am.

I don't care what you make, or what you have, it can all be taken away.  Then what...

This holiday season, join me in serving food at a homeless shelter, help someone.  Bring your family with you, if you have one.  Don't be self centered.



nice post man RESPECT
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 23, 2012, 11:29:12 PM
Americans are funny people, they don't realize when they are happy and keep pursuing "things" thinking that will make them happy.  "Things" can't make a person happy.

Lead a simple life and buy things if you need them, not to impress somebody.  Work hard and be honest, the harder I work, the luckier I am.

I don't care what you make, or what you have, it can all be taken away.  Then what...

This holiday season, join me in serving food at a homeless shelter, help someone.  Bring your family with you, if you have one.  Don't be self centered.



hmmm... my car, my condo, my vacations all bring me more pleasure than serving food at a homeless shelter does. how about I write your charity a check and keep pursuing my materialistic ways?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 23, 2012, 11:30:47 PM
good question for big ach.  he dabbles in "work" from time to time though.

hahaha, yes, whenever he gets board with his xbox, he does some "business" or cracks a textbook for a few minutes and feels like sisyphus himself.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 23, 2012, 11:45:49 PM
Americans are funny people, they don't realize when they are happy and keep pursuing "things" thinking that will make them happy.  "Things" can't make a person happy.

Lead a simple life and buy things if you need them, not to impress somebody.  Work hard and be honest, the harder I work, the luckier I am.

I don't care what you make, or what you have, it can all be taken away.  Then what...

This holiday season, join me in serving food at a homeless shelter, help someone.  Bring your family with you, if you have one.  Don't be self centered.



Take note of all the fat, lazy fucks there. If you want to condone and encourage their lack of ambition and drive then by all means do it. Don't feel the need to drag others into such a futile exercise.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
hmmm... my car, my condo, my vacations all bring me more pleasure than serving food at a homeless shelter does. how about I write your charity a check and keep pursuing my materialistic ways?

Shallow.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 23, 2012, 11:51:32 PM
Shallow.

tell me something i don't know. 
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2012, 11:59:17 PM
tell me something i don't know. 

I would, but in truth I hardly know you. I am just responding to your posts. For all I know, you could be full of shit. Maybe you are actually someone's loving husband and a caring father to a little brood of munchkins who spends all his free time taking care of other people's needs. Could be your really not some shallow materialistic son-of-a-bitch homophobe who spends all his waking hours cataloging his possessions like some modern King Midas. Who really knows?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 24, 2012, 12:02:00 AM
I would, but in truth I hardly know you. I am just responding to your posts. For all I know, you could be full of shit. Maybe you are actually someone's loving husband and a caring father to a little brood of munchkins who spends all his free time taking care of other people's needs. Could be your really not some shallow materialistic son-of-a-bitch homophobe who spends all his waking hours cataloging his possessions like some modern King Midas. Who really knows?

One thing we know, is that you like to play hide the sausage with Leroy and Jamal down at the pier.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 24, 2012, 12:06:37 AM
One thing we know, is that you like to play hide the sausage with Leroy and Jamal down at the pier.

And how is it you know this? Are you either Leroy or Jamal?
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 24, 2012, 12:07:22 AM
I would, but in truth I hardly know you. I am just responding to your posts. For all I know, you could be full of shit. Maybe you are actually someone's loving husband and a caring father to a little brood of munchkins who spends all his free time taking care of other people's needs. Could be your really not some shallow materialistic son-of-a-bitch homophobe who spends all his waking hours cataloging his possessions like some modern King Midas. Who really knows?

i am a son-of-a-bitch, but I'm not a homophobe. I also don't catalog my possessions. only poors and neurotics do that.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: Primemuscle on December 24, 2012, 12:14:32 AM
i am a son-of-a-bitch, but I'm not a homophobe. I also don't catalog my possessions. only poors and neurotics do that.

hmmm... my car, my condo, my vacations all bring me more pleasure
This seemed like a bit of a catalog to me. My mistake, I guess.

If you are truly not a homophobe, then I really don't understand your seeming obsession with whether other guys are gay or straight, but I am pleased to read that you are not one.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: evandatp on December 24, 2012, 01:56:39 AM
No wonder you're cranky. You're constipated.
Yes, his ass is retarded.
Title: Re: imagine being born rich and never having to work
Post by: deceiver on December 24, 2012, 03:22:00 AM
After half a year you end up depressed, extremely lazy and thinking about your life too much.