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Title: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 07:49:09 AM
then how can you explain to wether or not that man built that bridge or not?

god is the idea , the point of knowing, when you dream or think, some can call it a degree of magnetism

the creation is radiating , the opposite of manetism or the repulsive nature of it

everything is spheres and vortices , explosion and implosion , the planets=spheres/implosion the galaxes=the vortices/tornados/implosion

walter russel of russellian science is the only way , walter russell was the mentor of nikoli tesla, these people are shunnned from society much like falcons with there advanced theories that irritate academia
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Twaddle on February 07, 2013, 07:51:44 AM
God did not build the universe.  HTH.   :D
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 07:53:58 AM
God did not build the universe.  HTH.   :D
then no one built that bridge?  ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 07:56:12 AM
then how can you explain to wether or not that man built that bridge or not?

god is the idea , the point of knowing, when you dream or think, some can call it a degree of magnetism

the creation is radiating , the opposite of manetism or the repulsive nature of it

everything is spheres and vortices , explosion and implosion , the planets=spheres/implosion the galaxes=the vortices/tornados/implosion

walter russel of russellian science is the only way , walter russell was the mentor of nikoli tesla, these people are shunnned from society much like falcons with there advanced theories that irritate academia
You have lost it dude! It might be time to invest in an orgone accumulator.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 07, 2013, 07:57:33 AM
then no one built that bridge?  ::)
When we die we will figure it out.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Tapeworm on February 07, 2013, 07:58:20 AM
then no one built that bridge?  ::)

I happen to have the deed for that bridge right here.  I might be willing to part with it for the right price.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: deceiver on February 07, 2013, 08:01:40 AM
You are an idiot writing gibberish.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 08:04:39 AM
then no one built that bridge?  ::)

It's always funny to see people with an IQ of a mollusk try to use the watchmaker analogy. ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 08:06:33 AM
lazy logic of the atheist says never ever beleive in a creator or what a creater even means or parts of that word encompasses

atheist say dont event attempt to use any part of the creator theory and design own theory , why?, because showing any bit of humility is not good for the atheist, must not admit that any part of the the other side way of thinking is even right in just 1 percent of it  ::)

any intellignet fourth grader who isnt brainwashed by his parents or peers can see the truth in something that goes against there beleif wich helps them find the whole truth later on, this is how we changed so much when we were young but stopped changing so much as we got older and stuck in ways
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 08:08:14 AM
It's always funny to see people with an IQ of a mollusk try to use the watchmaker analogy. ::)
if you traveld somewhere and never before seen a bridge but now you saw one what is your explanation dipshit
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: deceiver on February 07, 2013, 08:11:57 AM
Funny thing is that guy who's behind Johnny Falcon account has serious mental issues which showed up few years ago. I'm no psychiatrist so I'm not able to give a full diagnosis but it doesn't take phd in psychiatry to notice that this dude has gone nuts. He's like this old woman from my area who wears a huge hat with flowers on them and drives buses preaching about god and other stuff. Yet because of the nature of our board he blends in - people think he's trolling when he's not.

He's like a retard wearing clown costume in the circus - 95% won't notice he's retarded.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 08:16:12 AM
Funny thing is that guy who's behind Johnny Falcon account has serious mental issues which showed up few years ago. I'm no psychiatrist so I'm not able to give a full diagnosis but it doesn't take phd in psychiatry to notice that this dude has gone nuts. He's like this old woman from my area who wears a huge hat with flowers on them and drives buses preaching about god and other stuff. Yet because of the nature of our board he blends in - people think he's trolling when he's not.

He's like a retard wearing clown costume in the circus - 95% won't notice he's retarded.

your not the only one whom ive rattled deep rooted beleifs and caused you to become mentaly unstable and lash out in your own version of psychosis
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 08:19:02 AM
if steven hawking traveld to a planet and saw a device wich hes never seen before, "man nor god created that"

he couldnt admit that it was a superior man because a superior man would similar to a demigod or god and thats against his theories
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 08:20:55 AM
so many here are trolls, so agressive but got nothing

they dont want a union with the falcon to explore the knowledge, they are agressive trolls,
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 07, 2013, 08:23:44 AM
then how can you explain to wether or not that man built that bridge or not?

god is the idea , the point of knowing, when you dream or think, some can call it a degree of magnetism

the creation is radiating , the opposite of manetism or the repulsive nature of it

everything is spheres and vortices , explosion and implosion , the planets=spheres/implosion the galaxes=the vortices/tornados/implosion

walter russel of russellian science is the only way , walter russell was the mentor of nikoli tesla, these people are shunnned from society much like falcons with there advanced theories that irritate academia

Thoughts fueled by paint thinner fumes of peace
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 08:25:14 AM
Thoughts fueled by paint thinner fumes of peace
agressive troll of peace
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: doison on February 07, 2013, 08:25:29 AM
Funny thing is that guy who's behind Johnny Falcon account has serious mental issues which showed up few years ago. I'm no psychiatrist so I'm not able to give a full diagnosis but it doesn't take phd in psychiatry to notice that this dude has gone nuts. He's like this old woman from my area who wears a huge hat with flowers on them and drives buses preaching about god and other stuff. Yet because of the nature of our board he blends in - people think he's trolling when he's not.

He's like a retard wearing clown costume in the circus - 95% won't notice he's retarded.

You certainly aren't a psychiatrist.  Falcon is the sanest person on the board.  He dropped the pretty boy jobless gym-wanderer schtick some time ago and works hard for a living.  

He just realizes that you have to work for things in life...which isn't always fun, but playing his Fail-Can character on here helps lighten up the day-to-day process of working hard so that your taxes can go to the lazy moochers of the world.  
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: deceiver on February 07, 2013, 08:25:50 AM
johny falcon is going through a time of recreational drug abuse.

hoping sincerely he will recover, i was there too.

you dont realize how bad you are off for very long time.



To me it doesn't look like that. It looks more like schizophrenia or something.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 08:36:01 AM
if you traveld somewhere and never before seen a bridge but now you saw one what is your explanation dipshit

My explanation? “Fucking Santiago Calatrava putting up shitty looking bridges everywhere. Someone needs to do something about this asshole.”

But that is irrelevant. Regardless of what my explanation about the bridge would be, I wouldn't claim that the same explanation applies to the Universe.

Instead I'd ask the more rational questions: "Does the Universe require an explanation? Is one even possible?" Those two questions must be answered before we look for an explanation.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 08:38:44 AM
if you traveld somewhere and never before seen a bridge but now you saw one what is your explanation dipshit

The proper response is to acknowledge you don't know what it is and then study/observe it in order to ascertain what it is and what it does. 
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: deceiver on February 07, 2013, 08:46:22 AM
My explanation? “Fucking Santiago Calatrava putting up shitty looking bridges everywhere. Someone needs to do something about this asshole.”

But that is irrelevant. Regardless of what my explanation about the bridge would be, I wouldn't claim that the same explanation applies to the Universe.

Instead I'd ask the more rational questions: "Does the Universe require an explanation? Is one even possible?" Those two questions must be answered before we look for an explanation.

Why do you even try to discuss with him anything?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: LATS on February 07, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
As my father told me" there may very well be a god.. But that does not mean you go anywhere when you die.. And isn't that what people are distressed about"..    Most are just trying to justify their fear of death and the potential nothingness that may come.. When mark twain was asked about his skepticism of a after life and if that bothered him he said. " I was dead for thousands of years before I was born and suffered no discomfort for it "..  That pretty much sums it up..
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
Why do you even try to discuss with him anything?

It's a character flaw! :-\
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 07, 2013, 09:08:31 AM
I wish I could witness Hawking reading this thread. I wonder how his laughter sounds.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
if you traveld somewhere and never before seen a bridge but now you saw one what is your explanation dipshit
How would you know it's a BRIDGE? And if unsure, just contact the local Government authorities, generally you need a permit for something like that, they should be able to put you onto who built it, who will then tell you how they built it if your into the engineering of it.  Unlike GOD, the builders of a bridge aren't mysteriously absent and inaccessible, the're normally good people.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 10:51:51 AM
lazy logic of the atheist says never ever beleive in a creator or what a creater even means or parts of that word encompasses

atheist say dont event attempt to use any part of the creator theory and design own theory , why?, because showing any bit of humility is not good for the atheist, must not admit that any part of the the other side way of thinking is even right in just 1 percent of it  ::)

Your an idiot, Hawking very early on his his Career hinted at the possibility of an Intelligent Creator, Scientists don't give a flying fuck one way or the other, they are looking for cold hard scientific fact, and hawking has spent a great deal of his career pondering such questions and applying the very best science to solve such mysteries.  if science uncovered their was indeed a Creator and had valid science for it, they would have no choice but to accept it, this is the beauty of science, if something is true and provable, end of story, you must accept it. Gravity doesn't care if you believe in it or not, it will still remain gravity and still keep your body attached to the Earth.  Speaking of gravity, it is this Physical law that relegates a Intelligent Creator pointless in the first place according to Hawking, the Nature of gravity is responsible for the Big bang and renders a divine being irrelevant in the process.

This is the difference between the scientific mind and the religious, if Science discovers their is a creator, as scientists they will gladly accept it, as they finally have the proof and evidence, if science discovers their isn't a creator and they have proof and evidence, the religious person will never believe it.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 07, 2013, 11:59:02 AM
Is this bridge over troubled waters?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 07, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
Your an idiot, Hawking very early on his his Career hinted at the possibility of an Intelligent Creator, Scientists don't give a flying fuck one way or the other, they are looking for cold hard scientific fact, and hawking has spent a great deal of his career pondering such questions and applying the very best science to solve such mysteries.  if science uncovered their was indeed a Creator and had valid science for it, they would have no choice but to accept it, this is the beauty of science, if something is true and provable, end of story, you must accept it.

ha ha as if a scientist could "discover" god.  Talk about arrogant delusion.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 07, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
Isn't this the guy that his caretaker left him out in the sun a few years ago?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 12:05:40 PM
ha ha as if a scientist could "discover" the world was round.  Talk about arrogant delusion.
Fixed to reflect your primitive outlook!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
Your an idiot, Hawking very early on his his Career hinted at the possibility of an Intelligent Creator, Scientists don't give a flying fuck one way or the other, they are looking for cold hard scientific fact, and hawking has spent a great deal of his career pondering such questions and applying the very best science to solve such mysteries.  if science uncovered their was indeed a Creator and had valid science for it, they would have no choice but to accept it, this is the beauty of science, if something is true and provable, end of story, you must accept it. Gravity doesn't care if you believe in it or not, it will still remain gravity and still keep your body attached to the Earth.  Speaking of gravity, it is this Physical law that relegates a Intelligent Creator pointless in the first place according to Hawking, the Nature of gravity is responsible for the Big bang and renders a divine being irrelevant in the process.

This is the difference between the scientific mind and the religious, if Science discovers their is a creator, as scientists they will gladly accept it, as they finally have the proof and evidence, if science discovers their isn't a creator and they have proof and evidence, the religious person will never believe it.

Of course it's a scientific fact that there's a Creator. Without a Creator there would be nothing and definitely no science. Science and Christianity are not enemies but rather they fit seamlessly with each other for God created both.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Necrosis on February 07, 2013, 12:13:59 PM
if you traveld somewhere and never before seen a bridge but now you saw one what is your explanation dipshit

so the bridge was created and by extension the surrounding nature was not, otherwise polarity in created versus non-created wouldn't be able to be ascertained.
The watchmaker argument has so many refutations. Another point is that I can meet the creator of the bridge, see how it was made, replicate it, nothing like this exists for a tree, ie no characteristics of "created"
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: dustin on February 07, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
lazy logic of the atheist says never ever beleive in a creator or what a creater even means or parts of that word encompasses

atheist say dont event attempt to use any part of the creator theory and design own theory , why?, because showing any bit of humility is not good for the atheist, must not admit that any part of the the other side way of thinking is even right in just 1 percent of it  ::)

any intellignet fourth grader who isnt brainwashed by his parents or peers can see the truth in something that goes against there beleif wich helps them find the whole truth later on, this is how we changed so much when we were young but stopped changing so much as we got older and stuck in ways

Lazy logic? He's done more in his shitty lifetime than you'll do in a hundred of yours. He is nothing BUT logical and hard working.

If we find out, through objective and unbiased science that can be reproduced and verified to leave no doubt, that there is a God then there is a God. It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 12:23:21 PM
Of course it's a scientific fact that there's a Creator. Without a Creator there would be nothing and definitely no science. Science and Christianity are not enemies but rather they fit seamlessly with each other for God created both.
Without gravity there would be nothing, that is scientific fact, as for GOD, it isn't a reasonable or scientific explanation to just state "Their is a GOD because I want their to be one", if their is a GOD, the pursuit of truth, humanities ever increasing knowledge base and continual scientific exploration will bear this out, Until then, your relying on wishful thinking and guesswork!

And no, Religion and Science are opposites, one believes in verifiable truth, and the other believes in fantasy and lies!  Hope this helps
Christians think Earth is only 10,000 years old? Science can prove otherwise, to even hold on to these absurd beliefs when the evidence is overwhelming is a sure sign that religious people are childlike and primitive.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 12:24:14 PM
Lazy logic? He's done more in his shitty lifetime than you'll do in a hundred of yours. He is nothing BUT logical and hard working.

If we find out, through objective and unbiased science that can be reproduced and verified to leave no doubt, that there is a God then there is a God. It's as simple as that.

That has already been done. There is a God.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 12:28:23 PM
Without gravity there would be nothing, that is scientific fact, as for GOD, it isn't a reasonable or scientific explanation to just state "Their is a GOD because I want their to be one", if their is a GOD, the pursuit of truth, humanities ever increasing knowledge base and continual scientific exploration will bear this out, Until then, your relying on wishful thinking and guesswork!

And no, Religion and Science are opposites, one believes in verifiable truth, and the other believes in fantasy and lies!  Hope this helps

Both religion (true religion that is) and science are all about truth otherwise there wouldn't any point to either. Now you're the one saying there is a God because you want there to be one; that's not what I said, dumbass. I said there is a God because all things of creation attest His existence. The irony is that without God there wouldn't be you! The very fact that you're alive to bullshit shows that there must have been a God to create you. Likewise without God there would be no science or scientists.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
Both religion (true religion that is) and science are all about truth otherwise there wouldn't any point to either. Now you're the one saying there is a God because you want there to be one; that's not what I said, dumbass. I said there is a God because all things of creation attest His existence. The irony is that without God there wouldn't be you! The very fact that you're alive to bullshit shows that there must have been a God to create you. Likewise without God there would be no science or scientists.

Circular reasoning at its finest.  Are you security 1?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 12:37:18 PM
Both religion (true religion that is) and science are all about truth otherwise there wouldn't any point to either. Now you're the one saying there is a God because you want there to be one; that's not what I said, dumbass. I said there is a God because all things of creation attest His existence. The irony is that without God there wouldn't be you! The very fact that you're alive to bullshit shows that there must have been a God to create you. Likewise without God there would be no science or scientists.
Once again, all wishful thinking on your part and not a shred of verifiable evidence.  No wonder scientists get frustrated with Religious whackjobs, scientists spend their whole lives actually studying reality and the universe, and a whackjob in a tin hat comes along with a couple of space cadet ideas and a bible and makes the most outrageous claims without even a hint of proof.  Fortunately science will one day discover why so many blindly believe fantasy as opposed to critical thinking and verifiable proof, they may even find a cure, otherwise we will have to rely on genetic engineering and artificial selection to weed them out.  Can't get in the way of progress.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 12:39:53 PM
Both religion (true religion that is) and science are all about truth otherwise there wouldn't any point to either.

Yes. Religion is about truth... ::)


I said there is a God because all things of creation attest His existence.

Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.


The irony is that without God there wouldn't be you!

Yes, very ironic...


The very fact that you're alive to bullshit shows that there must have been a God to create you. Likewise without God there would be no science or scientists.

Such a monumental proof. Do Goldbach's Conjecture next! ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 12:42:16 PM
Both religion (true religion that is) and science are all about truth otherwise there wouldn't any point to either. Now you're the one saying there is a God because you want there to be one; that's not what I said, dumbass. I said there is a God because all things of creation attest His existence. The irony is that without God there wouldn't be you! The very fact that you're alive to bullshit shows that there must have been a God to create you. Likewise without God there would be no science or scientists.

Circular reasoning at its finest.  

I doubt Jon even knows what a logical fallacy or circular reasoning is, and how his reasoning begs the question "Who created God" and the never-ending complexity in who created the creator of God and so on.  Sadly Jon fails to see how his commitment to the truth of his religious doctrines may prevent him from seeing that he is assuming the truth of what he is attempting to prove.

The Ultimate Boeing 747 gambit is a counter-argument to the argument from design. The argument from design claims that a complex or ordered structure must be designed. However, a god that is responsible for the creation of a universe would be at least as complicated as the universe that it creates. Therefore, it too must require a designer. And its designer would require a designer also, ad infinitum. The argument for the existence of god is then a logical fallacy.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Circular reasoning at its finest.  Are you security 1?

What circular reasoning? If that bullshit is fogging up your brain you need to get it out immediately.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:02:04 PM
What circular reasoning? If that bullshit is fogging up your brain you need to get it out immediately.
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: disco_stu on February 07, 2013, 01:03:43 PM
the difference between religion and science is that one (religion) incorrectly correlates information and doesnt require proof.
the other requires the proof and THEN correlates it.

its as simple as that.

now, which one do you apply in your day to day lives?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Mattyh7688 on February 07, 2013, 01:06:12 PM
i fi looked like him i wouldnt believe in a god either

hes very intelligent, but hes full of bullshit too.

nobody knows.
I agree with this. I joked with a trainer at my gym about going to church, saying no one does anymore.. he got all tense and said ok I admit churches made by men are corrupt but there is one thing for CERTAIN there is a God. I really tried hard not to laugh.. Hell, I had 16 years of teaching about God and Jesus and even took a Philosophy of God class in college and I still have NO IDEA. I think there is a God, but I have no idea and like you said nobody else knows either.. saying there is or isnt with such certainty is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

How can someone who believes in a God possibly be an atheist? Your contentions are all bullshit. All the other gods are dismissed because they are idols and you dismiss the true God because you're a lackwit. It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: dr.chimps on February 07, 2013, 01:13:05 PM
Concentrated stupid.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

How can someone who believes in a God possibly be an atheist?
I know it might come as a surprise to you, but many others have had the same idea as you and devised a mythical powerful deity to worship, why do you not worship them also, they also claim that theirs is the one true god

When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.  
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All the other gods are dismissed because they are idols and you dismiss the true God because you're a lackwit. It's as simple as that.

Thankyou for stating your reasons, you didn't have to go as far as referring to yourself as a lackwit, but so be it,
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
I know it might come as a surprise to you, but many others have had the same idea as you and devised a mythical powerful deity to worship, why do you not worship them also, they also claim that theirs is the one true god

When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.  
Thankyou for stating your reasons, you didn't have to go as far as referring to yourself as a lackwit, but so be it,

You're a fuckin' asswipe, go eat shit. Moron. You're a fuckin' adulterous piece of dogshit. I was referring to you as a lackwit, you imbecile. The Bible is true and attests the existence of the true God; nothing is devised, you asshole. Those who claim that theirs is the true God and are worshipping idols instead are just heathen. The Bible is the only true word of God, remember that. Get that into your fuckin' brain, you bloody conehead.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: snx on February 07, 2013, 01:44:47 PM
Concentrated stupid.

Lol'd. Another new one-liner for me to use in real life, c/o getbig!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:45:51 PM
You're a fuckin' asswipe, go eat shit. Moron. You're a fuckin' adulterous piece of dogshit. I was referring to you as a lackwit, you imbecile. The Bible is true and attests the existence of the true God; nothing is devised, you asshole. Those who claim that theirs is the true God and are worshipping idols instead are just heathen. The Bible is the only true word of God, remember that. Get that into your fuckin' brain, you bloody conehead.
lol Christian meltdown, not too hard to expose Christians for the hypocritical liars they are, their inability to follow the word of God and the teaching of Jesus is unfortunate, if they were actually able to practice what they preach, people might actually be drawn to religion.  Unfortunately, even the best of them are nothing more than primitive religious hypocrites.  Fortunately, you can go to confession, pretend it never happened, therefore never experience the necessary emotions and avoid the requisite motivation to become a better person, and carry on being the hypocritical liar you currently are.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 01:49:58 PM
lol Christian meltdown, not too hard to expose Christians for the hypocritical liars they are, their inability to follow the word of God and the teaching of Jesus is unfortunate, if they were actually able to practice what they preach, people might actually be drawn to religion.  Unfortunately, even the best of them are nothing more than primitive religious hypocrites.  Fortunately, you can go to confession, pretend it never happened, therefore never have the requisite motivation to become a better person, and carry on being the hypocritical liar you currently are.

I knew you were just a gimmick trolling about with religion; nobody takes you seriously, you swine. And I don't go to confession, you asinine twerp, because that's only for Catholics. Catholics aren't even true Christians as they don't follow what the Bible says. And I'm practising what I preach because I'm going to pound your pinhead in for being an adulterous dogshit. Justice served!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 01:58:00 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:00:47 PM
:o

Thanks for erecting a monument to your innumerous deficiencies. ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:03:05 PM
Thanks for erecting a monument to your innumerous deficiencies. ::)
I am sure Christ would be proud of your eloquent sermons and delivery of his powerful and important messages.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
I am sure Christ would be proud of your eloquent sermons and delivery of his powerful and important messages.

You are an utter disgrace to your Creator Christ. >:(
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 07, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
Owning of, dare I say it, biblical proportions.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 02:14:50 PM
the atheists believe in no god , that beleif is the atheists religion.

The church of the atheist is all around us, telling us to just wait for new science to come out , forget learning anything foryourselves. The church of atheists say dont worry about it and dont care, lets not even think about collaborating with such creationists to find an educated solution
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
You are an utter disgrace to your Creator Christ. >:(
I don't even believe in Christ, are you sure it isn't you who is the disgrace, I mean you are trying to convince others of the benefit of worshipping Christ, yet you rave on like an unhinged madman that in no way reflects the teachings of Christ.  Even an atheist like me knows Christ wouldn't condone your behaviour.

Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
The church of athiesm has a pulpit of trolls. You know like the trolls in old times that heckle you and wont let you pass a bridge until you pay them, there sole purpose is to bring you down.

You dont want to give that troll any advice because he wont listen, dont try to bargain or reason he will just lash out at you,  he's just an agressive troll from the church of atheism
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 07, 2013, 02:17:56 PM
the atheists believe in no god , that beleif is the atheists religion.

The church of the atheist is all around us, telling us to just wait for new science to come out , forget learning anything foryourselves. The church of atheists say dont worry about it and dont care, lets not even think about collaborating with such creationists to find an educated solution

Good. But It´s time for your medicine now.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 02:18:10 PM
the atheists believe in no god , that beleif is the atheists religion.

The church of the atheist is all around us, telling us to just wait for new science to come out , forget learning anything foryourselves. The church of atheists say dont worry about it and dont care, lets not even think about collaborating with such creationists to find an educated solution

Falcon you're a good man but misinformed.  I think further investigation on your part is needed
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:18:50 PM
I doubt Jon even knows what a logical fallacy or circular reasoning is, and how his reasoning begs the question "Who created God" and the never-ending complexity in who created the creator of God and so on.  Sadly Jon fails to see how his commitment to the truth of his religious doctrines may prevent him from seeing that he is assuming the truth of what he is attempting to prove.

The Ultimate Boeing 747 gambit is a counter-argument to the argument from design. The argument from design claims that a complex or ordered structure must be designed. However, a god that is responsible for the creation of a universe would be at least as complicated as the universe that it creates. Therefore, it too must require a designer. And its designer would require a designer also, ad infinitum. The argument for the existence of god is then a logical fallacy.

There is NO circular reasoning here. God created all things and the buck stops with God. Nobody created God. How could anyone have created the Creator? There's just the Creator and the creation. As for God's origin, He always was. That's why He is God. He had no beginning nor will He have an end; He is the Apha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. That's just the way it is because there MUST have been an eternal God in order for anything to have been created. Your so-called never-ending complexity is simple enough for even a chimpanzee to resolve. Understand?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 02:20:47 PM
There is NO circular reasoning here. God created all things and the buck stops with God. Nobody created God. How could anyone have created the Creator? There's just the Creator and the creation. As for God's origin, He always was. That's why He is God. He had no beginning nor will He have an end; He is the Apha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. That's just the way it is becaue there MUST have been an eternal God in order for anything to have been created. Your so-called never-ending complexity is simple enough for even a chimpanzee to resolve. Understand?

Meaningless made up nonsense. I'm surprised you can dress and feed yourself.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NotSure on February 07, 2013, 02:21:03 PM
the atheists believe in no god , that beleif is the atheists religion.

The church of the atheist is all around us, telling us to just wait for new science to come out , forget learning anything foryourselves. The church of atheists say dont worry about it and dont care, lets not even think about collaborating with such creationists to find an educated solution
thanks daddy waddy..  :) i wish you would go back on some steroids and get that killer body back.. if you do..  i can deep throat 12 inches..  :)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
Owning of, dare I say it, biblical proportions.

 ;D
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 02:22:49 PM
Falcon you're a good man but misinformed.  I think further investigation on your part is needed

god aint a person, god is light an magnetism , that is the common denominator  of all things, all things are a form of light and magnetism, movement , form, color and sound all come from those two denominators
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
Meaningless made up nonsense. I'm surprised you can dress and feed yourself.

Just because you're too asinine to comprehend simple English doesn't mean the material at hand is 'nonsense'. That's the truth right there so go reread and learn. Maybe some understanding will finally enlighten your dumb mind.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
Updated, that last meltdown comment was priceless!

Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 07, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
;D

I think you missed something there.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:24:24 PM
god aint a person, god is light an magnetism , that is the common denominator  of all things, all things are a form of light and magnetism, movement , form, color and sound all come from those two denominators

You're spouting crap. God is light yes but God is also a person and not magnetism!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
I think you missed something there.

You and E-Kul and the other godless swine were owned, weren't you? ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 02:27:28 PM
You and E-Kul and the other godless swine were owned, weren't you? ::)

Your circular reasoning has made you dizzy
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
You're spouting crap. God is light yes but God is also a person and not magnetism!

sure he could be a person too because light and magnetism are the two forces that created all things
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:29:25 PM
Your circular reasoning has made you dizzy

What circular reasoning? The eternal God is the Creator who created all things. What's so hard to understand about that?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:31:30 PM
Your circular reasoning has made you dizzy
Chickens are here because of eggs!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
Chickens are here because of eggs!

God created the chicken who then laid eggs. And nobody created God. God always was and He created all things. That sums it up in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 07, 2013, 02:35:37 PM
You and E-Kul and the other godless swine were owned, weren't you? ::)

I do understand, and to a certain degree empathize with your need to believe in Christ. But be honest here, how long have you been waiting for the resurection of your intelligence?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:37:33 PM
Without gravity there would be nothing, that is scientific fact, as for GOD, it isn't a reasonable or scientific explanation to just state "Their is a GOD because I want their to be one", if their is a GOD, the pursuit of truth, humanities ever increasing knowledge base and continual scientific exploration will bear this out, Until then, your relying on wishful thinking and guesswork!

And no, Religion and Science are opposites, one believes in verifiable truth, and the other believes in fantasy and lies!  Hope this helps
Christians think Earth is only 10,000 years old? Science can prove otherwise, to even hold on to these absurd beliefs when the evidence is overwhelming is a sure sign that religious people are childlike and primitive.

The Bible doesn't state the age of the earth. More nonsense from you, assface. True religion can be verified by science and true science backs up religion because the same God created both. As opposed to them being opposites they are in fact siblings.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:38:18 PM
I do understand, ant to a certain degree empathize with your need to believe in Christ. But be honest here, how long have you been waiting fir the resurection of your intelligence?

My intelligence doesn't need to be resurrected, you twerp.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
And nobody created God. God always was and He created all things. That sums it up in a nutshell.
If God does not need a cause, neither does the universe.  if the universe does not need a cause, no God is required. That sums it up in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 02:53:53 PM
gravity=magnetism

you cant have magnetism without electricity

and electricity comes from light
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 02:54:59 PM
If God does not need a cause, neither does the universe.  if the universe does not need a cause, no God is required. That sums it up in a nutshell.

Of course the universe needs a cause because it must have been created! Science can prove this because everything has a limited age and hence must have an origin. God, on the other hand, is eternal. You cannot just compare the ageless Creator to the creation and lump the 2 together as if they're the same when the difference is infinite!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
gravity=magnetism

you cant have magnetism without electricity

and electricity comes from light
Honest question, do you have a drug problem?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 03:02:06 PM
Honest question, do you have a drug problem?

stop being a troll and pick apart my points
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
gravity=magnetism

you cant have magnetism without electricity

and electricity comes from light

God is light but His light is spiritual. Electricity and gravity and magnetism are merely physical.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
Of course the universe needs a cause because it must have been created! Science can prove this because everything has a limited age and hence must have an origin. God, on the other hand, is eternal. You cannot just compare the ageless Creator to the creation and lump the 2 together as if they're the same when the difference is infinite!
We know that space and time was created by the big bang  Time didn't exist before the big bang, therefore there was no time for God to exist in. Their is no such thing as eternity, as time has a beginning and an end.  If time has no beginning, we could never have arrived at this point in time. An infinite amount of time would have to go by first, which would never come to an end. 
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Rami on February 07, 2013, 03:13:41 PM
I have noticed that most atheist and scientists assume the role of truth authority, like they define what is true and what is not, even though they can't possibly know.

Natural science and mathematic is way to limited, and would become to complex for humans to describe the universe with in the end anyway. Yet they cling to it tooth and nail as the be all end all de facto standard, even though it's a dead end.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 03:23:20 PM
I have noticed that most Religious people assume the role of truth authority, like they define what is true and what is not, even though they can't possibly know.

Religion is way to limited, and would become to complex for humans to describe the universe with in the end anyway. Yet they cling to it tooth and nail as the be all end all de facto standard, even though it's a dead end.
Fixed
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 03:24:47 PM
There is NO circular reasoning here. God created all things and the buck stops with God. Nobody created God. How could anyone have created the Creator? There's just the Creator and the creation. As for God's origin, He always was. That's why He is God. He had no beginning nor will He have an end; He is the Apha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. That's just the way it is because there MUST have been an eternal God in order for anything to have been created. Your so-called never-ending complexity is simple enough for even a chimpanzee to resolve. Understand?

So let's get this straight. Everything requires a creator. But the creator doesn't? That's a weird definition of everything you have there.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: WOOO on February 07, 2013, 03:25:55 PM
I shit bigger than god
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
What circular reasoning? The eternal God is the Creator who created all things. What's so hard to understand about that?

You assume what you're trying to prove; if only there was a name for this logical fallacy... wait! THERE IS!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:28:59 PM
So let's get this straight. Everything requires a creator. But the creator doesn't? That's a weird definition of everything you have there.

Of course not man. Think about it carefully. Everything CREATED requires a Creator. The Creator Himself is obviously not a creation because you either create or are a creator and the Creator creates. God already said that He always was and has no beginning or end of days so how could He possibly have been created?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
You assume what you're trying to prove; if only there was a name for this logical fallacy... wait! THERE IS!

I'm asuming nothing because everything I say is already proven, friend. The only logical fallacy is that that exists solely in your head, nothing more. God is eternal; His creation isn't. Next!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
 A LOT of top genius say there is NO God
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
A LOT of top genius say there is NO God

Then they are no geniuses at all but rather top dumbasses.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Rami on February 07, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
Fixed

case in point
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 03:40:24 PM
(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/128/1778842/walter-russell06_905.jpg)
(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/128/1778842/walter-russell19_905.jpg)
(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/128/1778842/walter-russell27_905.jpg)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
Think about it carefully.

OK... I will.


Everything CREATED requires a Creator.

But does everything require a creator?


The Creator Himself is obviously not a creation because you either create or are a creator and the Creator creates.

So again, your argument is that everything requires a creator. Except your imaginary friend. That's a fancy definition of everything.


God already said that He always was and has no beginning or end of days so how could He possibly have been created?

And Supergod said "That God dude is full of shit. I know, I stuffed him full of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy) yesterday. Fun times man... He was crying about it, said he's gonna show me! What a loser. Anyways... wanna get together later, have a pose-down and then go do some whores?" Just now. On the telephone!


I'm asuming nothing because everything I say is already proven, friend.

I don't think that proven means what you think it means...


The only logical fallacy is that that exists solely in your head, nothing more. God is eternal; His creation isn't. Next!

Do you wave your hands like some kind of Jedi when you try to play this game? Because if you are, it's not working.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:41:18 PM
Fixed

This coming from 'E-Kul' who enjoys living in sin and filth as an unmarried man enjoying the luxuries of marriage and who pretends to care for the slain kids.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: deceiver on February 07, 2013, 03:41:31 PM
OK... I will.


But does everything require a creator?


So again, your argument is that everything requires a creator. Except your imaginary friend. That's a fancy definition of everything.


And Supergod said "That God dude is full of shit. I know, I stuffed him full of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy) yesterday. Fun times man... He was crying about it, said he's gonna show me! What a loser. Anyways... wanna get together later, have a pose-down and then go do some whores?" Just now. On the telephone!


I don't think that proven means what you think it means...


Do you wave your hands like some kind of Jedi when you try to play this game? Because if you are, it's not working.

You are very weak man.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
I have noticed that most religious assume the role of truth authority, like they define what is true and what is not, even though they can't possibly know.

Religion is way to limited, and would become to simplistic for humans to describe the universe with in the end anyway. Yet they cling to it tooth and nail as the be all end all de facto standard, even though it's a dead end.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: arce1988 on February 07, 2013, 03:41:50 PM
So again, your argument is that everything requires a creator. Except your imaginary friend. That's a fancy definition of everything.



^
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
(http://www.dataisnature.com/images/The_Russell_Periodic_Chart.jpg)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
OK... I will.


But does everything require a creator?


So again, your argument is that everything requires a creator. Except your imaginary friend. That's a fancy definition of everything.


And Supergod said "That God dude is full of shit. I know, I stuffed him full of it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy) yesterday. Fun times man... He was crying about it, said he's gonna show me! What a loser. Anyways... wanna get together later, have a pose-down and then go do some whores?" Just now. On the telephone!


I don't think that proven means what you think it means...


Do you wave your hands like some kind of Jedi when you try to play this game? Because if you are, it's not working.

Haha, just as I thought you're full of bullshit. You're probably just some homo or fornicator who abhors God's laws hence you rail against Him. There's no Supergod or Jedi here, just the cold hard facts so yeah, of course what I say is proven. Fact is fact, after all, whether you recognize it or not. If you refuse to believe the true word of God, then who can help you?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 03:48:17 PM
Haha, just as I thought you're full of bullshit.

You think? That's fresh...

You're probably just some homo or fornicator who abhors God's laws hence you rail against Him.

I don't "rail against" God anymore than I rail against pink unicorns...


There's no Supergod or Jedi here, just the cold hard facts

But there's a God?


so yeah, of course what I say is proven.

For some definition of proven...


Fact is fact, after all, whether you recognize it or not. If you refuse to believe the true word of God, then who can help you?

If God wanted me to believe, he could easily make me believe - it wouldn't take too much effort. But he chose to send sheep-herders and people with the IQ of a pile of dead mollusks...
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:52:17 PM
You think? That's fresh...

I don't "rail against" God anymore than I rail against pink unicorns...


But there's a God?


For some definition of proven...


If God wanted me to believe, he could easily make me believe - it wouldn't take too much effort. But he chose to send sheep-herders and people with the IQ of a pile of dead mollusks...

There's a God but there's no 'imaginary friend' of mine like you said. More bullshit from you, I suppose. God wants you to believe but the trouble is that you've got the IQ of a pile of dead mollusks. Everything's proven after all. All things testify to the existence and power of God the Creator. You've got eyes to see all things, don't you?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: HTexan on February 07, 2013, 03:53:37 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 03:54:12 PM

If God wanted me to believe, he could easily make me believe - it wouldn't take too much effort. But he chose to send sheep-herders and people with the IQ of a pile of dead mollusks...
ROFL
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
:D

Another fucker here's to dick around, I see.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
There's a God but there's no 'imaginary friend' of mine like you said.

How would you know the difference? What distinguishing characteristic does your God have from an imaginary friend?


More bullshit from you, I suppose. God wants you to believe but the trouble is that you've got the IQ of a pile of dead mollusks.

Hey! That's pretty witty... pile of dead mollusks. I'll have to save that for future use! ::)


Everything's proven after all.

Are you using your special version of everything, which doesn't really mean everything again?



All things testify to the existence and power of God the Creator.

Of course they do... starving, dying children in Africa testify to the existence and power of God the Creator. Victims of child abuse testify to the existence and power of God the Creator. And the testimony is electrifying!


You've got eyes to see all things, don't you?

I also have a brain which I use to evaluate evidence.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:01:13 PM
you guys arent even arguing about the tangible i have already presented such

but the trolls dont argue about the tangible the argue about emotional concepts of god
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 04:02:01 PM
you guys arent even arguing about the tangible i have already presented such

What did you present you delusional nutjob?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:04:18 PM
How would you know the difference? What distinguishing characteristic does your God have from an imaginary friend?


Hey! That's pretty witty... pile of dead mollusks. I'll have to save that for future use! ::)


Are you using your special version of everything, which doesn't really mean everything again?



Of course they do... starving, dying children in Africa testify to the existence and power of God the Creator. Victims of child abuse testify to the existence and power of God the Creator. And the testimony is electrifying!


I also have a brain which I use to evaluate evidence.

All things attest the power and existence of God the Creator as I said. As for the lamentable portion of creation, God will address that in time. If you really have a brain then you'll accept the evidence of God and the Bible. 'Everything' means 'everything'; is your English so poor that you can't comprehend simple words? And don't get smart with me with your bullshit, you blasphemous troll. God is real and an imaginary friend doesn't exist like your brains.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
one can just glance at the bantering back and forth between the trolls here and become bored very quickly and not even read there childish postings, however my posts are always concentrated upon by the paid trolls and non paid alike as well as the scientist in us all. My posts are far superior than the collective consciousness of 90 percent of the board compressed into one system.

here have a read, yes paid trolls that includes you, i want you to enjoy something besides money for a change


A strong theme running through Russell’s schematics, especially evident in his ‘Home Study Course’ is the correspondences of geometric equivalences and orders. The charts resemble sets of musical scales, denoting frameworks of periodicity and harmony within particular natural systems. Many of the diagrams, at first glance, might easily be be misinterpreted as modern musical notation. ‘Stages of Growth in the Nine pairs of Radar Mirrors’ is a prime example. The top half insinuates a time-line while the bottom half connotes a wiring schematic for a multi-channel electro-acoustic performance!

Controlled Power Multiplication Principle as Recorded by Gravity Bar - Walter Russell
Controlled Power Multiplication Principle as Recorded by Gravity Bar – Walter Russell
(http://www.dataisnature.com/images/Controlled_Power_Multiplication_Principle_as_Recorded_by_Gravity_Bar.jpg)

The pseudo-science and religious ideas served up by Russell, and his wife Lao, at the University of Science and Philosophy paint a patchwork pattern of fuzzy utopianism, idealism and at times naivety. As Art-Brut is to Art, so characters like Russell and Lao are to traditional mainstream science and so they are essential. It might just be the case that Walter Russell’s genius, and his diagrams, can only be decoded at a later moment in time. His friend Nikola Tesla had advised him to lock away his work in a safe for 1000 years – because humankind was not yet mature enough for it.

‘The glory of becoming a transcendent being is the only reason for living’ – Lao Russell

‘Mediocrity is self-inflicted and genius is self-bestowed’ – Walter Russell
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:11:11 PM
We know that space and time was created by the big bang  Time didn't exist before the big bang, therefore there was no time for God to exist in. Their is no such thing as eternity, as time has a beginning and an end.  If time has no beginning, we could never have arrived at this point in time. An infinite amount of time would have to go by first, which would never come to an end. 

The Big Bang's just a theory. Also it may have created some space but not time. How the fuck does the Big Bang create time when it is merely a physical reaction and time is not even a physical concept? Time was created by God and hence He exists apart from time. To the Lord a thousand years are as one day and one day as a thousand years. God existed infinitely before time was as He is eternal.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 04:11:52 PM
All things attest the power and existence of God the Creator as I said.

You say many things but I don't know that they attest to anything except to the quality of your rational faculty.


As for the lamentable portion of creation, God will address that in time.

Yes, yes. Of course. Don't worry about life while you're alive. All will be handled after you're dead... How convenient.


If you really have a brain then you'll accept the evidence of God and the Bible.

The evidence of what? Can you even define what "God" means? Just so I know what the "evidence" is supposed to prove?


'Everything' means 'everything';

Apparently not, since you admitted that, in your opinion everything is created - except the creator which is not.


is your English so poor that you can't comprehend simple words?

Don't blame me if you use everything as a synonym for well, almost everything.


And don't get smart with me with your bullshit, you blasphemous troll.

Get smart? ???


God is real and an imaginary friend doesn't exist like your brains.

Of course.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 07, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
Falcon do you consider anyone with an option different from your own a troll?  I think I've been diplomatic with you.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Falcon do you consider anyone with an option different from your own a troll?  I think I've been diplomatic with you.
trolls aggrivate they do not collaborate

collaboration is why i live , not to aggravate, i am the opposite of many of you.

this song is about collaborating not aggrivating like a troll does
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
The Big Bang's just a theory. Also it may have created some space but not time. How the fuck does the Big Bang create time when it is merely a physical reaction and time is not even a physical concept? Time was created by God and hence He exists apart from time. To the Lord a thousand years are as one day and one day as a thousand years. God existed infinitely before time was as He is eternal.
You really need to learn about physics, space and time cannot exist apart from each other.  It s no point debating with you, you lack a fundamental awareness of scientific concepts!  infinity doesn't exist, it is a construct. 

Consider the following:

“Hilbert’s Hotel is a (hypothetical) hotel with an infinite number of rooms, each one of which is occupied. The hotel gives rise to a paradox: the hotel is full, and yet it has vacancies.

That the hotel is full is obvious. It has an infinite number of rooms, and an infinite of guests; every room is occupied. That the hotel has vacancies is a little more difficult to demonstrate.

Suppose that a new visitor arrives; can he be accommodated? At first it seems that he cannot, but then the hotel clerk has an idea: He moves the guest in Room 1 to Room 2, and the guest in Room 2 to Room 3, and so on. Every guest is moved to the next room along.

For every guest, in every room, there is another room into which they can be moved. This leaves Room 1 vacant for the new visitor. Although the hotel is full, then, the new guest can be accommodated in Room 1.

It is not only one new guest that can be accommodated; in fact, Hilbert’s Hotel has an infinite number of vacancies. By moving every guest to the room the number of which is double the number of their current room, all of the odd numbered rooms can be vacated for new guests. There are, of course, an infinite number of odd numbered rooms, and so an infinite number of new guests can be accommodated.”


If one understands this concept, the hotel can have an infinite number of rooms full, as well as an infinite number of rooms empty. It makes no sense and does not work in the real world. Infinity is a paradox. A paradox is a self-contradictory and false proposition of any person, thing, or situation exhibiting an apparently contradictory nature.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: HTexan on February 07, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
Another fucker here's to dick around, I see.
go back to sucking dicks in the park troll.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
You really need to learn about physics, space and time cannot exist apart from each other.  It s no point debating with you, you lack a fundamental awareness of scientific concepts!
I'm sure many are familar with the phenomena of seeing a pinwheel moving clockwise whenviewed from one direction and counter-clockwise when viewed from the other, or how a fastmoving object can sometimes seem to stand still. There are similar illusions for every sense(hearing, touch, etc.), and not just sight. This fact is extremely important to bear in Mind whenever we observe things, even with our instrumentation (such as in "Empirical Science").

Only the Mind can encompass the whole spectrum, and in so doing, know the transcendental Causeof all manifest effects directly.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Tre on February 07, 2013, 04:23:33 PM
then how can you explain to wether or not that man built that bridge or not?

god is the idea , the point of knowing, when you dream or think, some can call it a degree of magnetism

the creation is radiating , the opposite of manetism or the repulsive nature of it

everything is spheres and vortices , explosion and implosion , the planets=spheres/implosion the galaxes=the vortices/tornados/implosion

walter russel of russellian science is the only way , walter russell was the mentor of nikoli tesla, these people are shunnned from society much like falcons with there advanced theories that irritate academia

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but in case you haven't been told previously, the creator of the universe isn't the one you've read about in your little storybooks.

Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
I'm sure many are familar with the phenomena of seeing a pinwheel moving clockwise whenviewed from one direction and counter-clockwise when viewed from the other, or how a fastmoving object can sometimes seem to stand still. There are similar illusions for every sense(hearing, touch, etc.), and not just sight. This fact is extremely important to bear in Mind whenever we observe things, even with our instrumentation (such as in "Empirical Science").

Only the Mind can encompass the whole spectrum, and in so doing, know the transcendental Causeof all manifest effects directly.

You have been using that orgone accumulator haven't you!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:31:32 PM
go back to sucking dicks in the park troll.

Did your mother teach you how to do that, you steaming pile of dogshit? Hahahaha, you're a fuckin' turd. Bloody troll.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:35:21 PM
You say many things but I don't know that they attest to anything except to the quality of your rational faculty.


Yes, yes. Of course. Don't worry about life while you're alive. All will be handled after you're dead... How convenient.


The evidence of what? Can you even define what "God" means? Just so I know what the "evidence" is supposed to prove?


Apparently not, since you admitted that, in your opinion everything is created - except the creator which is not.


Don't blame me if you use everything as a synonym for well, almost everything.


Get smart? ???


Of course.

Okay then, I'll feed the troll somemore. If you want to know what 'God' means go check a dictionary. If you want to find out who God is, then read the Bible. You're a godless degenerate who cannot accept the truth of God and the Bible. And everything was created except of course the Creator. You've got to take the word in the right context.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Through continual presence, and the awareness it provides, we can free ourselves from doing thingsthat we might later come to regret.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: HTexan on February 07, 2013, 04:39:38 PM
Did your mother teach you how to do that, you steaming pile of dogshit? Hahahaha, you're a fuckin' turd. Bloody troll.
no, i didnt have your childhood.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 04:42:21 PM
If you want to know what 'God' means go check a dictionary.

"The one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe."

That tells me nothing. What measurable, falsifiable attributes does this "being" have? How can I verify those attributes independently?


If you want to find out who God is, then read the Bible.

I've read it, front to back, on multiple occasions. I've even read the New Testament in original Greek... can you say the same?

You're a godless degenerate who cannot accept the truth of God and the Bible.

You're right: I cannot accept the truth of the collected writings of sheep-herders. I cannot accept that the mustard seed is the smallest of all seeds but that it grows into the largest of trees. I cannot accept that bats are birds. I cannot accept that women are created from ribs. I cannot accept that snakes talk. If that's the "truth" of your God then no, I cannot accept it.


And everything was created except of course the Creator. You've got to take the word in the right context.

Of course!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
You really need to learn about physics, space and time cannot exist apart from each other.  It s no point debating with you, you lack a fundamental awareness of scientific concepts!  infinity doesn't exist, it is a construct. 

Consider the following:

“Hilbert’s Hotel is a (hypothetical) hotel with an infinite number of rooms, each one of which is occupied. The hotel gives rise to a paradox: the hotel is full, and yet it has vacancies.

That the hotel is full is obvious. It has an infinite number of rooms, and an infinite of guests; every room is occupied. That the hotel has vacancies is a little more difficult to demonstrate.

Suppose that a new visitor arrives; can he be accommodated? At first it seems that he cannot, but then the hotel clerk has an idea: He moves the guest in Room 1 to Room 2, and the guest in Room 2 to Room 3, and so on. Every guest is moved to the next room along.

For every guest, in every room, there is another room into which they can be moved. This leaves Room 1 vacant for the new visitor. Although the hotel is full, then, the new guest can be accommodated in Room 1.

It is not only one new guest that can be accommodated; in fact, Hilbert’s Hotel has an infinite number of vacancies. By moving every guest to the room the number of which is double the number of their current room, all of the odd numbered rooms can be vacated for new guests. There are, of course, an infinite number of odd numbered rooms, and so an infinite number of new guests can be accommodated.”


If one understands this concept, the hotel can have an infinite number of rooms full, as well as an infinite number of rooms empty. It makes no sense and does not work in the real world. Infinity is a paradox. A paradox is a self-contradictory and false proposition of any person, thing, or situation exhibiting an apparently contradictory nature.

Hahahaha, that's the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. How the fuck is space even related to time? They are 2 different things: one is a physical concept and the other is not. What you said is certainly not physics, and I'm talking not about physics but truth! Physics can only talk about the RECORDING Of space and time but cannot explain why and how these came to be. You moron, you lack a fundamental awareness of EVERYTHING! You don't even know to recognize and accept truth when you see it. It's really no point talking to an ass like you but I want to show your bullshit for what it is. You talk of science but there is no science in you for real science supports God and His word. Your hotel analogy is totally wrong because God is limitless. That's just who He is.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 04:43:12 PM
Okay then, I'll feed the troll somemore. If you want to know what 'God' means go check a dictionary. If you want to find out who God is, then read the Bible. You're a godless degenerate who cannot accept the truth of God and the Bible. And everything was created except of course the Creator. You've got to take the word in the right context.
You really are struggling with your own circular reasoning aren't you.  Your argument is Everything needs a cause, things don’t just exist (say the universe for example) Therefore the universe must have a cause – that cause is God.  It is absurd to suggest that a Complexity (the universe) imples a designer, yet the complex being that created it does not.  To suggest that something complex implies design, but the complex designer does not is a contradiction.  Either complexity implies a designer, or it does not.  if your argument is complexity implies design, then the complexity that created it must also imply design.  You can't have it both ways, you need to make up your mind.  It is the equivalent of saying God created the Universe but he didn't create the Universe.  It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 04:45:33 PM
Hahahaha, that's the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. How the fuck is space even related to time? They are 2 different things: one is a physical concept and the other is not. What you said is certainly not physics, and I'm talking not about physics but truth! Physics can only talk about the RECORDING Of space and time but cannot explain why and how these came to be. You moron, you lack a fundamental awareness of EVERYTHING! You don't even know to recognize and accept truth when you see it. It's really no point talking to an ass like you but I want to show your bullshit for what it is. You talk of science but there is no science in you for real science supports God and His word. Your hotel analogy is totally wrong because God is limitless. That's just who He is.

Wha... what's a "recording of space and time"? ???
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Rhythmic Balanced Interchange
, wherein whatever is given is always"regiven" in kind. To state it another way, by keeping all our interchanges with others orderly and balanced by constantly extending (or giving) the most constructive aspects of ourselves, it isreflected back to us (or "regiven" in return). We can choose to work together towards mutually beneficial goals, and thus create a civilization truly built upon civility.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 04:46:20 PM
Wha... what's a "recording of space and time"? ???
the mind
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
no, i didnt have your childhood.

Don't deny it. And don't insinuate things about me; you wish you had my childhood.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 07, 2013, 04:46:57 PM
trolls aggrivate they do not collaborate

collaboration is why i live , not to aggravate, i am the opposite of many of you.

this song is about collaborating not aggrivating like a troll does

Good upper cuts, they always work as if you are tall facing a short fighter. Astrology is real personality straits = spot on. Daily horoscopes too difficult to predict.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 04:47:54 PM
Wha... what's a "recording of space and time"? ???

Precisely what it is. A recording of space is a measure of how much space there is and a recording of time is a measurement of how much time has elapsed. That's all physicists can do really.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 07, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
Good upper cuts, they always work as if you are tall facing a short fighter. Astrology is real personality straits = spot on. Daily horoscopes too difficult to predict.
those were actually "non-violent" punches not meant to inflict harm since we are all brothers, why would we want to do that , only meant for exercise purposes in only bro

as for horoscopes you have to ask yourself , how do they come up with these conclusions based on the month and day, then you investigate for yourself how this is accomplished, the true process wich makes sense when you read it, not from the trolls who are after money and website hits

Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 05:06:15 PM
Precisely what it is. A recording of space is a measure of how much space there is and a recording of time is a measurement of how much time has elapsed. That's all physicists can do really.
Please enlighten everyone with your definition of space and time, this could get interesting!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 05:15:07 PM
You really are struggling with your own circular reasoning aren't you.  Your argument is Everything needs a cause, things don’t just exist (say the universe for example) Therefore the universe must have a cause – that cause is God.  It is absurd to suggest that a Complexity (the universe) imples a designer, yet the complex being that created it does not.  To suggest that something complex implies design, but the complex designer does not is a contradiction.  Either complexity implies a designer, or it does not.  if your argument is complexity implies design, then the complexity that created it must also imply design.  You can't have it both ways, you need to make up your mind.  It is the equivalent of saying God created the Universe but he didn't create the Universe.  It makes no sense.

Oh brother, here we go again. I see you're not new to spinning bullshit, 'E-Kul'. ' It is the equivalent of saying God created the Universe but he didn't create the Universe'? No, it's not equivalent to that, not by a long shot. It's only what you SAY it's equivalent to! Who the fuck says that God created the universe and then denies it? Maybe an idiot like you but not me! As usual you're twisting what I said around to fit your fell agenda. Creation obviously doesn't just exist; it must have had a Creator and that is God. Either you create or you are created; that's the way it is. Since God's the Creator how could He have been created? Yes, complexity obviously implies design but that only applies to creations! God transcends all of creation and His complexity as you call it demonstrates His ability to CREATE. The ETERNAL God who has always been is not to be treated as a creation is.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 05:15:47 PM
Please enlighten everyone with your definition of space and time, this could get interesting!

Check a dictionary; that's where I get my definitions from. ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
Oh brother, here we go again. I see you're not new to spinning bullshit, 'E-Kul'. ' It is the equivalent of saying God created the Universe but he didn't create the Universe'? No, it's not equivalent to that, not by a long shot. It's only what you SAY it's equivalent to! Who the fuck says that God created the universe and then denies it? Maybe an idiot like you but not me! As usual you're twisting what I said around to fit your fell agenda. Creation obviously doesn't just exist; it must have had a Creator and that is God. Either you create or you are created; that's the way it is. Since God's the Creator how could He have been created? Yes, complexity obviously implies design but that only applies to creations! God transcends all of creation and His complexity as you call it demonstrates His ability to CREATE. The ETERNAL God who has always been is not to be treated as a creation is.
Oh Brother, you are lost aren't you. you don't realise what you are suggesting, on the one hand you suggest that complexity implies design, but then on the other hand you say in the case of the complexity of the creator it doesn't.  if you so easily suggest that one complexity implies design and another doesn't, the argument can be carried forward to the design of the universe, if the complexity of the designer needs no cause, then the complexity of the universe needs no cause.  You either agree that their is cause and effect or you don't, you fail to see the limitations of your God is uncaused argument.  You can't have cause and effect and not have cause and effect.  You are using cause and effect to support a Universe being created, but the existence of no cause and effect when it comes to god.  Their can't be both cause and effect and no cause and effect.  It's a paradox and a contradiction in terms.

Please enlighten everyone with your definition of space and time, this could get interesting!

Check a dictionary; that's where I get my definitions from. ::)
Oh Brother! It is all beginning to make sense now!  if I told you I learned what religion and Jesus was by looking in the dictionary, what would you think?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 05:33:59 PM
Oh Brother, you are lost aren't you. you don't realise what you are suggesting, on the one hand you suggest that complexity implies design, but then on the other hand you say in the case of the complexity of the creator it doesn't.  if you so easily suggest that one complexity implies design and another doesn't, the argument can be carried forward to the design of the universe, if the complexity of the designer needs no cause, then the complexity of the universe needs no cause.  You either agree that their is cause and effect or you don't, you fail to see the limitations of your God is uncaused argument.  You can't have cause and effect and not have cause and effect.  You are using cause and effect to support a Universe being created, but the existence of no cause and effect when it comes to god.  Their can't be both cause and effect and no cause and effect.  It's a paradox and a contradiction in terms.
Oh Brother! It is all beginning to make sense now!  if I told you I learned what religion and Jesus was by looking in the dictionary, what would you think>

We're not talking about religion and Jesus now but rather space and time; those are simple terms. I realized what you were suggesting but you, on the other hand, totally missed the meaning of my rebuttal. THe complexity of the DESIGNER needs no cause because HE is the DESIGNER and so He is an exception to the rule that complexity implies design. The complexity of the universe needs a cause, however, because complexity implies design, and it being a creation is no exception to the rule. Cause and effect don't apply to God for the exact same reason, that is an eternal Deity can have no origin. Rather He is the originator of all things! There's no paradox because the Creator and the creation are 2 separate things; you're trying to apply your concepts (like cause and effect) across the board to fit everything when the 2 are utterly dissimilar and cannot be examined in the same light. I hope you understand better now.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 05:43:22 PM
We're not talking about religion and Jesus now but rather space and time; those are simple terms. I realized what you were suggesting but you, on the other hand, totally missed the meaning of my rebuttal. THe complexity of the DESIGNER needs no cause because HE is the DESIGNER and so He is an exception to the rule that complexity implies design. The complexity of the universe needs a cause, however, because complexity implies design, and it being a creation is no exception to the rule. Cause and effect don't apply to God for the exact same reason, that is an eternal Deity can have no origin. Rather He is the originator of all things! There's no paradox because the Creator and the creation are 2 separate things; you're trying to apply your concepts (like cause and effect) across the board to fit everything when the 2 are utterly dissimilar and cannot be examined in the same light. I hope you understand better now.
You fail to realise that you suggest only people who believe in God can use the cause and effect to suit their beliefs.  According to you, it is OK to suggest the creator has no cause , but the alternative to suggest that the universe has no cause is unthinkable.  The hypocrisy of Religious people is astounding.  I hope you understand better now.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 05:55:39 PM
You fail to realise that you suggest only people who believe in God can use the cause and effect to suit their beliefs.  According to you, it is OK to suggest the creator has no cause , but the alternative to suggest that the universe has no cause is unthinkable.  The hypocrisy of Religious people is astounding.  I hope you understand better now.

You sound like a stuckup young lass I know. I use 'cause and effect' as it should be used, that is to fit the truth! Of course it is fine to say that the Creator has no cause but gravely wrong to say the same of the universe because the 2 are OPPOSITES in a sense. One is the Creator who creates and the other is the creation that is created. Why can't you grasp something so simple? You're trying to tar all the feathers with the same brush. And where is the hypocrisy in trying to point out the reality to you here?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 07, 2013, 06:04:03 PM
You sound like a stuckup young lass I know. I use 'cause and effect' as it should be used, that is to fit the truth! Of course it is fine to say that the Creator has no cause but gravely wrong to say the same of the universe because the 2 are OPPOSITES in a sense. One is the Creator who creates and the other is the creation that is created. Why can't you grasp something so simple? You're trying to tar all the feathers with the same brush. And where is the hypocrisy in trying to point out the reality to you here?

There you go waving your hand again like some kind of Jedi...
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 06:11:17 PM
There you go waving your hand again like some kind of Jedi...

 :D
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 06:14:33 PM
You sound like a stuckup young lass I know. I use 'cause and effect' as it should be used, that is to fit the truth! Of course it is fine to say that the Creator has no cause but gravely wrong to say the same of the universe because the 2 are OPPOSITES in a sense. One is the Creator who creates and the other is the creation that is created. Why can't you grasp something so simple? You're trying to tar all the feathers with the same brush. And where is the hypocrisy in trying to point out the reality to you here?
You simply fail to see the arrogance in suggesting that only you can use a particular argument, the one that states that their is cause and effect and yet no cause and effect, but no one else can.  It is arrogance in it's purest sense.  If it is ok for you to suggest that god has no cause, it is equally valid to say the universe has no cause.  period, you can poo poo it all you like, and as it stands, their is more scientific evidence for the latter and none for your argument.  Stephen Hawkings can actually use science to explain his ideas, thousands of years of scientific knowledge and wisdom all collated into an understandable theory (albeit by geniuses), unlike your argument that goes like this "Yep, their is a GOD because we want their to be one)  HHHMMM, I know who I'll be listening too,
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: John on February 07, 2013, 06:19:05 PM
You fail to realise that you suggest only people who believe in God can use the cause and effect to suit their beliefs.  According to you, it is OK to suggest the creator has no cause , but the alternative to suggest that the universe has no cause is unthinkable.  The hypocrisy of Religious people is astounding.  I hope you understand better now.

Totally agree...the church is full of them. People rarely come to Christ through bible bashing. Which is the exact reason why I will rarely speak about my personal beliefs to anyone unless they ask. It just gets into too many arguments.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
You simply fail to see the arrogance in suggesting that only you can use a particular argument, the one that states that their is cause and effect and yet no cause and effect, but no one else can.  It is arrogance in it's purest sense.  If it is ok for you to suggest that god has no cause, it is equally valid to say the universe has no cause.  period, you can poo poo it all you like, and as it stands, their is more scientific evidence for the latter and none for your argument.  Stephen Hawkings can actually use science to explain his ideas, thousands of years of scientific knowledge and wisdom all collated into an understandable theory (albeit by geniuses), unlike your argument that goes like this "Yep, their is a GOD because we want their to be one)  HHHMMM, I know who I'll be listening too,

That's NOT my argument, you lying sack of shit. Don't go twisting my words and putting words into my mouth, you loathsome piece of dogshit. Hahahahaha, you're a disingenuous dogturd. What I'm saying is that yep, there is a God because He actually does exist. What arrogance is involved in speaking the truth? All the rest is just bullcrap; anybody can use my argument as it is predicated on fact. You fuckin' asswipe, do you want me to slap your fuckin' stupid buttface now, you fuckin' imbecile? How many times must I explain the same bloody thing to you? You can't tar all the feathers of the bird (so to speak) with the same brush because they are all DIFFERENT! Yes, there's cause and effect but this is only applicable in certain cases. While God has no cause it's not equally valid to suggest the same of the universe because obviously God CREATED the universe, for heaven's sakes. Is there something wrong with your brains, punk? All of science attests my ideas so I've no idea what garbage you're going on about. Your mouth is a shitter that relentlessly spews out turds/bullshit. Hahahahaha, you fuckin' loser you want to listen to atheist claptrap instead of God Himself, what a sad clown.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 07, 2013, 06:48:44 PM
That's NOT my argument, you lying sack of shit. Don't go twisting my words and putting words into my mouth, you loathsome piece of dogshit. Hahahahaha, you're a disingenuous dogturd. What I'm saying is that yep, there is a God because He actually does exist. What arrogance is involved in speaking the truth? All the rest is just bullcrap; anybody can use my argument as it is predicated on fact. You fuckin' asswipe, do you want me to slap your fuckin' stupid buttface now, you fuckin' imbecile? How many times must I explain the same bloody thing to you? You can't tar all the feathers of the bird (so to speak) with the same brush because they are all DIFFERENT! Yes, there's cause and effect but this is only applicable in certain cases. While God has no cause it's not equally valid to suggest the same of the universe because obviously God CREATED the universe, for heaven's sakes. Is there something wrong with your brains, punk? All of science attests my ideas so I've no idea what garbage you're going on about. Your mouth is a shitter that relentlessly spews out turds/bullshit. Hahahahaha, you fuckin' loser you want to listen to atheist claptrap instead of God Himself, what a sad clown.
I give up, trying to bring awareness to an idiot is tiring, I understand perfectly what you are saying, your argument is illogical, it defies logic, it's a contradictory and paradoxical, and yet you remain unaware of this, even when carefully explained to you.  Maybe one day in the future, you will experience the ah-hah moment, but for now, your closed mind won't allow that to happen.  You simply don't have the self awareness to see the conflict contained within your argument, you just simply don't!  It least the seed has been planted and your potential to become awakened is greater now than when we first started trying to help you.  My work here is done.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 07:26:29 PM
I give up, trying to bring awareness to an idiot is tiring, I understand perfectly what you are saying, your argument is illogical, it defies logic, it's a contradictory and paradoxical, and yet you remain unaware of this, even when carefully explained to you.  Maybe one day in the future, you will experience the ah-hah moment, but for now, your closed mind won't allow that to happen.  You simply don't have the self awareness to see the conflict contained within your argument, you just simply don't!  It least the seed has been planted and your potential to become awakened is greater now than when we first started trying to help you.  My work here is done.

I agree that trying to bring awareness to an idiot is a futile endeavour because that's precisely what I've been trying to do with you, you classic clodpate. You claim to understand perfectly what I'm saying yet you still refuse to accept the truth? How can that be? That's the only paradox here because as I said all you're saying is bullshit. Believe me, I know what you're saying because I considered it then rejected it for its unacceptable generalizations that clash with the realities of the situation. The irony is that your mind is closed to the truth of what I'm saying because you simply do not want to accept God for some hidden reason. No matter what I say or what science I bring to the table, your mind is going to devise new nonsense to refuse any and all acceptance of God. As God stated, they (the unbelievers) grew wise in their own minds and became fools (like you). Your argument is the one that's illogical because you're trying to apply the same rules to OPPOSITE things; it's like giving the exact same diet to a bodybuilder who's bulking and one who's trying to shred up for a contest. See just how moronic you have been? What kind of stupid fuck tries to apply the rule of cause and effect to the Creator who is eternal and has no beginning? The Creator only CREATES and the creation is only CREATED, hence their names, understand? Please punk, wake up your fuckin' ideas or get thrown (dumped!) into hellfire. I've been trying to save you but you don't want to be saved; you want to be royally fucked instead, you shameful servant of the devil. Since you're close-minded you refuse to awaken to the truth. Hahahahaha, I bet you just don't want to concede that you're one of those losers destined to end up forevermore in the lake of fire, that must be it. Hahahahaha, you're scared of the punishment like a little girl, what a joke! And you haven't done any work unless you consider your trolling to be work, Mr Gimmick.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 07:43:18 PM
I give up, trying to bring awareness to an idiot is tiring, I understand perfectly what you are saying, your argument is illogical, it defies logic, it's a contradictory and paradoxical, and yet you remain unaware of this, even when carefully explained to you.  Maybe one day in the future, you will experience the ah-hah moment, but for now, your closed mind won't allow that to happen.  You simply don't have the self awareness to see the conflict contained within your argument, you just simply don't!  It least the seed has been planted and your potential to become awakened is greater now than when we first started trying to help you.  My work here is done.

Maybe you got confused a little by the term 'cause and effect'. Maybe you just want an explanation for God's existence just as God's hand explains the existence of creation. That is simple; God is the great I AM which means that He always was. As such He exists over and apart from His creation while simultaneously upholding its existence.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 07, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
Of course not man. Think about it carefully. Everything CREATED requires a Creator. The Creator Himself is obviously not a creation because you either create or are a creator and the Creator creates. God already said that He always was and has no beginning or end of days so how could He possibly have been created?

Flawed logic.  How do you explain being BOTH son and father?  Sigh, its too easy
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 07, 2013, 08:01:58 PM
Flawed logic.  How do you explain being BOTH son and father?  Sigh, its too easy

I meant it in the context of the Creator and creation, you simpleton. ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 07, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
My bad.  Sorry sir.  Hey, can you ask your gf for a signed pic of Bolo for my gym?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 08, 2013, 12:16:18 AM
then no one built that bridge?  ::)

Who created God? If your criteria for demanding a creator is that something appears too complex to exist without a creator, what about your god, who surely is more complex than any "bridge"?

NN
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 08, 2013, 12:17:55 AM
I meant it in the context of the Creator and creation, you simpleton. ::)

Man is a creator. I guess, according to your logic, that this means nobody created man.

NN
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 08, 2013, 01:06:14 AM
Man is a creator. I guess, according to your logic, that this means nobody created man.

NN

Jon Harridan's logic! Oxymoron.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 08, 2013, 05:31:00 AM
john harriden and other paid trolls really stenched up this thread. just ignore there posts and seek out mine is all you need to do then ask questions and lets have a civilized discussion shall we
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 05:34:00 AM
john harriden and other paid trolls really stenched up this thread. just ignore there posts and seek out mine is all you need to do then ask questions and lets have a civilized discussion shall we
What do you think of orgone energy?, serious question.  It seems like the type of thing that is right up your alley.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 06:27:30 AM
I was previously an atheist but after seeing falcon and the other bloke writing certain words in CAPSLOCK I have been converted.

Only the lord can use the CAPSLOCK button for extra meaning.

Its a miracle its a miracle.

If your god exists. He is a shit bag. He sees everything after all and has the power of life over death.

However he lets rape occur, he is fine with famine and he lets the muslims take the piss.

God and the need to believe in a god is the refuge of the weak, intellectually illiterate, scared, docile, cap doffing, servile shithouse.

Now - Noahs ark lads- talk us through the logistics behind that little thing.

Over to you- serioulsy go and watch life of brian- its far better than the bollocks you want so desperately to believe in.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: muscularny on February 08, 2013, 06:31:00 AM
can someone explain what caused the big bang, what was prior to the big bang? no

these atheists have so much fear into the thought that maybe there is a god that they get so excited when you suggest that maybe just maybe there is

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 06:38:29 AM
science doesnt know yet.

but the work with the higgs bosun particle could shed some light on it


here is the diff between science and religion

science is open to evidence and proof- even if it disproved current theory

religion refuses to accept anything unless it backs up their goat herder preached world view
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:18:02 AM
My bad.  Sorry sir.  Hey, can you ask your gf for a signed pic of Bolo for my gym?

You a fan of the great Bolo?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 08, 2013, 07:30:47 AM
can someone explain what caused the big bang, what was prior to the big bang? no

these atheists have so much fear into the thought that maybe there is a god that they get so excited when you suggest that maybe just maybe there is



i know this thread blew up to massive proportions in just a few hours because all you see here is athiest's communicating anxiety
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:36:59 AM
science doesnt know yet.

but the work with the higgs bosun particle could shed some light on it


here is the diff between science and religion

science is open to evidence and proof- even if it disproved current theory

religion refuses to accept anything unless it backs up their goat herder preached world view

Why lump all religions together? Know you that all religions are false save the true religion? That is Christianity.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:40:15 AM
Who created God? If your criteria for demanding a creator is that something appears too complex to exist without a creator, what about your god, who surely is more complex than any "bridge"?

NN

Nobody created God. Since God is infinitely complex how could anyone have created Him? You can only create something lesser than you and nothing is higher than God seeing as He is infinite! A creation is finite, on the other hand, and thus had to be created. The truth is that while creation was obviously created (by God), the eternal God always was. He is the great I AM THAT I AM.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:41:46 AM
john harriden and other paid trolls really stenched up this thread. just ignore there posts and seek out mine is all you need to do then ask questions and lets have a civilized discussion shall we

I'm not a paid troll, my tall friend. In all honesty your rambling nonsense should be disregarded and my posts eagerly devoured for the strong intellect contained therein.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:43:56 AM
Jon Harridan's logic! Oxymoron.

It's no oxymoron because I'm an eminently logical fellow. Logic is the very propellor of my mental function as a matter of fact.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: paradoxno1 on February 08, 2013, 07:46:14 AM
 "Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe"
If God DID exist, he'd be pretty pissed off. In fact, if I was god I would probably have gone back in time and punished Hawking in some horrible way...
Nope, no sign of that.    
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: quadzilla456 on February 08, 2013, 07:47:02 AM
God did not build the universe.  HTH.   :D
You don't know that. You and I and everyone on this planet are so insignificant we can't make statements like these. If you're lucky you will be on this planet for a short 80 years and the Universe is billions of years old. You are making bold statements with very very limited knowledge.

And I agree with Johnny, who built that bridge or car? Did it build itself? Because I have news for you, even an ant is a much more complex design than humans have ever delivered.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:49:41 AM
"Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe"
If God DID exist, he'd be pretty pissed off. In fact, if I was god I would probably have gone back in time and punished Hawking in some horrible way...
Nope, no sign of that.    

If Stephen Hawking said that then he's either a liar or a dolt. Or maybe both. And if God acted every time he was mad then there would be nobody alive; God is love so He can restrain His wrath for now. When Judgement Day comes though...
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: muscularny on February 08, 2013, 08:08:58 AM
science doesnt know yet.

but the work with the higgs bosun particle could shed some light on it


here is the diff between science and religion

science is open to evidence and proof- even if it disproved current theory

religion refuses to accept anything unless it backs up their goat herder preached world view

higgs is more for post bang versus prior, to see if the 2 part. can or cannot create what the theory claims

higgs itself is named after the guy with the theory that there is a particle that as it moves thru attracts others and hence gets bigger, thats being tested too

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 08, 2013, 08:26:27 AM
If Stephen Hawking said that then he's either a liar or a dolt. Or maybe both. And if God acted every time he was mad then there would be nobody alive; God is love so He can restrain His wrath for now. When Judgement Day comes though...

Right... God is love. And because he's love (and omniscient) he "created" people that he knows will be evil and thus sentenced to experience his wrath. He's a lover, alright. The God that you claim to believe in, if he existed, would be the result of combining an overgrown bully and an immoral thug.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 08:42:40 AM
christians on here

as the bible is the word

and it is the word of god

and is to be believed as it is the word of god

explain noahs ark to us please.

cheers in advance.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 09:18:11 AM
christians on here

as the bible is the word

and it is the word of god

and is to be believed as it is the word of god

explain noahs ark to us please.

cheers in advance.

What's wrong with Noah's Ark?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 08, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
He didn't know SOME would turn out evil. He had to create man and see for Himself if they would love and obey Him ('if you love me keep my commandments'). Besides, man's wickedness is his own fault since he has free will. If Adam and Eve had only obeyed God man wouldn't have fallen.

Really? So your God is not all-knowing? Some God...
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 09:24:36 AM
He didn't know SOME would turn out evil. He had to create man and see for Himself if they would love and obey Him ('if you love me keep my commandments'). Besides, man's wickedness is his own fault since he has free will. If Adam and Eve had only obeyed God man wouldn't have fallen.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 09:25:14 AM
Really? So your God is not all-knowing? Some God...

Why rail on God? God is love! He loves everybody.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Nomad on February 08, 2013, 09:25:45 AM
then how can you explain to wether or not that man built that bridge or not?

god is the idea , the point of knowing, when you dream or think, some can call it a degree of magnetism

the creation is radiating , the opposite of manetism or the repulsive nature of it

everything is spheres and vortices , explosion and implosion , the planets=spheres/implosion the galaxes=the vortices/tornados/implosion

walter russel of russellian science is the only way , walter russell was the mentor of nikoli tesla, these people are shunnned from society much like falcons with there advanced theories that irritate academia

Who cares, I am still waiting for armored power suits and warp drive.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
so you believe that noahs ark consisted of approx 5million male and female species and they were able to survive co-habiting get fed, keep free of disease and then survive the flood?

really?


toy story must have seemed like a documentary compared to that pile of horseshit
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 09:50:40 AM
so you believe that noahs ark consisted of approx 5million male and female species and they were able to survive co-habiting get fed, keep free of disease and then survive the flood?

really?


toy story must have seemed like a documentary compared to that pile of horseshit

Well, the Bible is always right so God must have preserved the animals. And I think only the main animals were taken in.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 09:53:27 AM
'only the main animals'

eh?

so why doesnt the bible say 'god told noah to fill the ark with an assortment of various animals

as all the animals were created by god surely he would have insisted on them all involved.


or did he create some new animals after the ark.

if so which ones/why and when?

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
'only the main animals'

eh?

so why doesnt the bible say 'god told noah to fill the ark with an assortment of various animals

as all the animals were created by god surely he would have insisted on them all involved.


or did he create some new animals after the ark.

if so which ones/why and when?



Maybe God created new animals and just didn't mention it. He can do anything He likes after all and the specifics of what was created are not important. But the Ark was pretty big! Surely it could hold all the animals, especially if God said so.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 10:02:13 AM
so he created all new animals although forgot to mention it in the bible

did he invent alzheimers as well cos it appears he was suffering from it.

strange eh?

for the supreme creator he was a bit haphazard.

so the dimensions of the ark- hazard a guess?

who was on it? how did they survive with the animals?

its just to the outsider it seems like a fairy tale bunch of bollocks.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 10:13:59 AM
can someone explain what caused the big bang, what was prior to the big bang? no



Gravity caused the big bang, their was no time or space prior to this. God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics. Thanks for asking and Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 10:18:50 AM
Why rail on God? God is love! He loves everybody.
Just not some of the children who were brutally murdered at Sandy Hook, those kids he didn't care too much for! 

yeah Thanks Jon, God loves humanity so much he sees fit to inflict war, famine, disease. hunger, natural disaster and unimaginable suffering,  Thanks God, but you can stick your love up your arse!
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 10:21:49 AM
You a fan of the great Bolo?

Can you ask your girlfriend for a pic?  Seriously.  No flame, but are you really dating her?  What does he say about it?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 10:28:31 AM
Just not some of the children who were brutally murdered at Sandy Hook, those kids he didn't care too much for! 

yeah Thanks Jon, God loves humanity so much he sees fit to inflict war, famine, disease. hunger, natural disaster and unimaginable suffering,  Thanks God, but you can stick your love up your arse!

Fuck you, you lying asshole. God doesn't inflict all that stuff on humanity. Rather, God will remove all of that. God loves and cares for all the children but the murderers didn't.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Fuck you, you lying asshole. God doesn't inflict all that stuff on humanity. Rather, God will remove all of that. God loves and cares for all the children but the murderers didn't.
What's GOD waiting for?  The bodycount hasn't satisfied his bloodlust enough yet, or is he still just enjoying the spectacle.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
so he created all new animals although forgot to mention it in the bible

did he invent alzheimers as well cos it appears he was suffering from it.

strange eh?

for the supreme creator he was a bit haphazard.

so the dimensions of the ark- hazard a guess?

who was on it? how did they survive with the animals?

its just to the outsider it seems like a fairy tale bunch of bollocks.

What's so nonsensical about the Biblical account? Why couldn't they have survived with the animals? And God only mentions the important stuff in the Bible otherwise everyone's life story would be in there. Come on, use your brains and think for once. He may or may not have invented new animals or plants; probably not but who knows?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
What's GOD waiting for?  The bodycount hasn't satisfied his bloodlust enough yet, or is he still just enjoying the spectacle.

God is waiting for lost humanity to repent and turn to Him. If He descends from Heaven now He will have to destroy all the wicked/unconverted in HIs righteousness and justice. But He wants to give them as much time as possible to be saved and go to Heaven.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 10:41:14 AM
God is waiting for lost humanity to repent and turn to Him.
So, God is waiting for the hordes of humanity who he has royally fucked up the arse to turn to him, WTF? is GOD a terrorist?

 
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If He descends from Heaven now He will have to destroy all the wicked/unconverted in HIs righteousness and justice.
Well, hurry up then, were waiting.

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But He wants to give them as much time as possible to be saved and go to Heaven.
No Thanks God, while we're waiting, many children are being brutally murdered in the school yards, we're good to go, Thanks anyway, but can you get on with it, Seriously! people are unnecessarily suffering.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 08, 2013, 10:46:23 AM
Gravity caused the big bang, their was no time or space prior to this. God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics. Thanks for asking and Hope this helps!

Nonsense- gravity is a property of the Universe, not something that exists apart from time and space. We cannot answer that question, if for no other reason because terms like "before" and "caused" have temporal/causal implications that are meaningless outside of the Universe.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 08, 2013, 10:50:19 AM
He didn't know SOME would turn out evil. He had to create man and see for Himself if they would love and obey Him ('if you love me keep my commandments'). Besides, man's wickedness is his own fault since he has free will. If Adam and Eve had only obeyed God man wouldn't have fallen.

Interesting. So you don't believe in the God that's described in the Bible, which repeatedly asserts that God knows all things. Remember, that according to your myth, the Book of Life was written *before* creation and lists the names of all those who will be saved and go to heaven during the events recounted in Revelation.

If we go by the Bible God *had* to know who would turn out saved and who wouldn't. He created people he knew wouldn't be saved. He created people knowing he would then punish them.

And that's a God of love?

BULLSHIT.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 10:52:58 AM
So, God is waiting for the hordes of humanity who he has royally fucked up the arse to turn to him, WTF? is GOD a terrorist?

 Well, hurry up then, were waiting.
No Thanks God, while we're waiting, many children are being brutally murdered in the school yards, we're good to go, Thanks anyway, but can you get on with it, Seriously! people are unnecessarily suffering.

That's not what I said, you lying sack of shit. You're a treacherous viper fit to be slaughtered like the slime you are. Those hordes of humanity who are wicked chose the wrong way themselves and so they fucked themselves up. Of course God is not a terrorist but He sure brings terror to the wicked because they know He is a righteous judge and stern justice awaits them. Who are you tell God what to do? If God came down now you would be consumed and condemned but you still have a chance of salvation because God is giving you a chance. Ditto for countless unsaved folk worldwide. Only a few childen were murdered anyway; as I said school shootings are very isolated incidents. Of course you bullshit and say many kids are being murdered in the schoolyards to paint an unfair picture of God. YOu piece of cowdung, you should be shot just for wilfully misrepresenting God.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: avxo on February 08, 2013, 10:57:43 AM
OK, I'm done with "Jon Harridan" for now. I've had enough troll.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 11:14:53 AM
Nonsense- gravity is a property of the Universe, not something that exists apart from time and space. We cannot answer that question, if for no other reason because terms like "before" and "caused" have temporal/causal implications that are meaningless outside of the Universe.
Argue with Hawkins, that's the theory, he has a greater grip on Physics, m-theory, quantum entanglement and the like.  It's pretty much the same argument as the Theists who argue that God created itself, except the scientists just remove God, and theorise that the universe created itself,  God is just an unnecessary middle man!  But unlike the theorists, the scientists have centuries of knowledge building and wisdom to validate their arguments.  The theists will just tell you to just shut up and accept that's just the way it is and if you don't like it, well you will probably burn in an imaginary furnace for eternity even though in practice eternity cannot exist.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 11:18:02 AM
That's not what I said, you lying sack of shit. You're a treacherous viper fit to be slaughtered like the slime you are. Those hordes of humanity who are wicked chose the wrong way themselves and so they fucked themselves up. Of course God is not a terrorist but He sure brings terror to the wicked because they know He is a righteous judge and stern justice awaits them. Who are you tell GOd what to do? If God came down now you would be consumed and condemned but you still have a chance of salvation because God is giving you a chance. Ditto for countless unsaved folk worldwide. Only a few childen were murdred anyway; as I said school shootings are very isolated incidents. Of course you bullshit and say many kids are being murdered in the schoolyards to paint an unfair picture of God. YOu piece of cowdung, you should be shot just for wilfully misrepresenting God.
For a Christian, you seem kind of EVIL.  I must admit, you are very angry and in no way Christlike.  Is this normal for people who worship Christ.  Honestly, I don't mix with religious folk, are your peers as equally disturbed as you.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: jodsy on February 08, 2013, 11:28:23 AM
this website seems to have been taken over by religous nuts.......
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Interesting. So you don't believe in the God that's described in the Bible, which repeatedly asserts that God knows all things. Remember, that according to your myth, the Book of Life was written *before* creation and lists the names of all those who will be saved and go to heaven during the events recounted in Revelation.

If we go by the Bible God *had* to know who would turn out saved and who wouldn't. He created people he knew wouldn't be saved. He created people knowing he would then punish them.

And that's a God of love?

BULLSHIT.

Yes, of course God is omniscient which means he knows all. And God is love too. So what if He knew some would not be saved and would have to be punished? God still had to give everybody a chance to live and follow Him. Besides, God is a just and righteous God. He has every right to punish those who failed Him by refusing to obey Him. He loves them to which is why He gave them life and food and drink and clothing and a chance of salvation but they were stubborn in their own evil ways and so He has to punish them. There's no bullshit here, just your lack of understanding.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
OK, I'm done with "Jon Harridan" for now. I've had enough troll.

My eye's on you, little man. ;)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
Argue with Hawkins, that's the theory, he has a greater grip on Physics, m-theory, quantum entanglement and the like.  It's pretty much the same argument as the Theists who argue that God created itself, except the scientists just remove God, and theorise that the universe created itself,  God is just an unnecessary middle man!  But unlike the theorists, the scientists have centuries of knowledge building and wisdom to validate their arguments.  The theists will just tell you to just shut up and accept that's just the way it is and if you don't like it, well you will probably burn in an imaginary furnace for eternity even though in practice eternity cannot exist.

If in practice eternity cannot exist then you and I cannot exist either. That's just rubbish. There's no reason why things cannot go on forever and if God says so then that's the truth.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 12:00:04 PM
For a Christian, you seem kind of EVIL.  I must admit, you are very angry and in no way Christlike.  Is this normal for people who worship Christ.  Honestly, I don't mix with religious folk, are your peers as equally disturbed as you.

No, evil is what YOU are. Don't mistake righteous wrath, indignation even, for evil. And yes, it is normal for people who worship Christ to be angered at unholy buggers like yourself as you are scum and a disgrace to creation. Nobody is disturbed but you, you sick sack of shit. We pure Christians are not disturbed individuals like atheists and other non-believers are but are rather highly offended at your loathsome turpitude.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
this website seems to have been taken over by religous nuts.......

Being religious doesn't make you a nut.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: snx on February 08, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
My eye's on you, little man. ;)

That's a good looking sandwich Jon.

Primanti bros?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: jodsy on February 08, 2013, 12:06:30 PM
Being religious doesn't make you a nut.
your right, but attacking anyone who doesnt have the same oppinion as you does...... nut job
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
your right, but attacking anyone who doesnt have the same oppinion as you does...... nut job

Nope, it doesn't. If that opinion is offensive and evil then it deserves to be attacked. Hehe, methinks you're the nut, you nutcase. ;)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: jodsy on February 08, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
Nope, it doesn't. If that opinion is offensive and evil then it deserves to be attacked. Hehe, methinks you're the nut, you nutcase. ;)
your quite aggressive for a religous person, you ever thought you wont get through those pearly gates because of it?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Can you ask your girlfriend for a pic?  Seriously.  No flame, but are you really dating her?  What does he say about it?

Mr. Harridan, what does Bolo think of you dating his daughter?  Why not get lifting advice from him?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 12:43:05 PM
My eye's on you, little man. ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459101.0;attach=504504;image)

Who is this disgusting FAT PIG?  Is this you Jon?, if so, it explains everything, I get it now! If GOD gave you free will, why are you such an overeating morbidly obese fat bastard.  Surely GOD doesn't approve of you regularly and wilfully stuffing your face to the point of morbid obesity.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459101.0;attach=504504;image)

Who is this disgusting FAT PIG?  Is this you Jon?, if so, it explains everything, I get it now! If GOD gave you free will, why are you such an overeating morbidly obese fat bastard.  Surely GOD doesn't approve of you regularly and wilfully stuffing your face to the point of morbid obesity.

Kind of kills the argument for intelligent design.  Nothing intelligent about this fellas design.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e6e4b0ebb828297777e19ae41a761fa9/tumblr_mgr1ljAX0x1rnoce1o1_1280.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mekf0slt5j1rnoce1o1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mazam1oNA71rnoce1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=459101.0;attach=504504;image)

Who is this disgusting FAT PIG?  Is this you Jon?, if so, it explains everything, I get it now! If GOD gave you free will, why are you such an overeating morbidly obese fat bastard.  Surely GOD doesn't approve of you regularly and wilfully stuffing your face to the point of morbid obesity.

For God's sake I was just bulking. There's no need to be rude about a little excess fat.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 01:31:48 PM
Mr. Harridan, what does Bolo think of you dating his daughter?  Why not get lifting advice from him?

He gave me this video to study his fighting techniques.

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: dr.chimps on February 08, 2013, 01:32:51 PM
For God's sake I was just bulking. There's no need to be rude about a little excess fat.
*YAWN* A good gimmick account knows to post sparingly.  
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
*YAWN* A good gimmick account knows to post sparingly.  

But I'm not one. ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 01:42:46 PM
He gave me this video to study his fighting techniques.



So, how long have you been dating his daughter?  Did you have to ask his permission to date?  Seems like that would be customary.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: SF1900 on February 08, 2013, 01:44:50 PM
John Harridan, if youre not a gimmick, hold up a sign with the words "Getbig" and signed by you.

I suspect you wont because youre a terrible and unfunny gimmick.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: dr.chimps on February 08, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
christians on here

as the bible is the word

and it is the word of god

and is to be believed as it is the word of god

explain noahs ark to us please.

cheers in advance.
PM  MCWAY. Good luck.   
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
Security1 and Jon are the same guy.  I'm telling you.  
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 08, 2013, 01:49:32 PM
(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/128/1778842/walter-russell06_905.jpg)
(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/128/1778842/walter-russell19_905.jpg)
(http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/128/1778842/walter-russell27_905.jpg)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 08, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
one can just glance at the bantering back and forth between the trolls here and become bored very quickly and not even read there childish postings, however my posts are always concentrated upon by the paid trolls and non paid alike as well as the scientist in us all. My posts are far superior than the collective consciousness of 90 percent of the board compressed into one system.

here have a read, yes paid trolls that includes you, i want you to enjoy something besides money for a change


A strong theme running through Russell’s schematics, especially evident in his ‘Home Study Course’ is the correspondences of geometric equivalences and orders. The charts resemble sets of musical scales, denoting frameworks of periodicity and harmony within particular natural systems. Many of the diagrams, at first glance, might easily be be misinterpreted as modern musical notation. ‘Stages of Growth in the Nine pairs of Radar Mirrors’ is a prime example. The top half insinuates a time-line while the bottom half connotes a wiring schematic for a multi-channel electro-acoustic performance!

Controlled Power Multiplication Principle as Recorded by Gravity Bar - Walter Russell
Controlled Power Multiplication Principle as Recorded by Gravity Bar – Walter Russell
(http://www.dataisnature.com/images/Controlled_Power_Multiplication_Principle_as_Recorded_by_Gravity_Bar.jpg)

The pseudo-science and religious ideas served up by Russell, and his wife Lao, at the University of Science and Philosophy paint a patchwork pattern of fuzzy utopianism, idealism and at times naivety. As Art-Brut is to Art, so characters like Russell and Lao are to traditional mainstream science and so they are essential. It might just be the case that Walter Russell’s genius, and his diagrams, can only be decoded at a later moment in time. His friend Nikola Tesla had advised him to lock away his work in a safe for 1000 years – because humankind was not yet mature enough for it.

‘The glory of becoming a transcendent being is the only reason for living’ – Lao Russell

‘Mediocrity is self-inflicted and genius is self-bestowed’ – Walter Russell
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
Falcon,  you're only a couple steps away from joining a cult.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 08, 2013, 01:52:17 PM
Security1 and Jon are the same guy.  I'm telling you.  
Security1 is Barney fife.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 01:55:16 PM
John Harridan, if youre not a gimmick, hold up a sign with the words "Getbig" and signed by you.

I suspect you wont because youre a terrible and unfunny gimmick.

You don't expect me to pull such a stunt, do you? Name me one person who has done that. You can't because nobody actually does that childish bullshit.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
Really? So your God is not all-knowing? Some God...

God is all-knowing and He sees into the future but the point is that there would be no future (for humanity) to be even seen if He had not decided to create man in the first place. Please don't blaspheme God too when you're completely obliviousness to His goodness.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 02:29:24 PM
John Harridan, if youre not a gimmick, hold up a sign with the words "Getbig" and signed by you.

I suspect you wont because youre a terrible and unfunny gimmick.

Here you go. :D
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 02:30:39 PM
God is all-knowing and He sees into the future but the point is that there would be no future (for humanity) to be even seen if He had not decided to create man in the first place. Please don't blaspheme God too when you're completely obliviousness to His goodness.

So he's watching as I ream your mom.  Gods a pervert
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 02:40:46 PM
So he's watching as I ream your mom.  Gods a pervert

Fuck off, asshole. God is holy and the only pervert is you. And that's not my mom, it's your mom, hehehehehe. Do you eat out your mom too? :o
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
“GREAT is the LORD and GREATLY to be praised, and his GREATNESS is unsearchable!”
—Psalm 145:3

God is AMAZING!
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 02:48:57 PM
Fuck off, asshole. God is holy and the only pervert is you. And that's not my mom, it's your mom, hehehehehe. Do you eat out your mom too? :o

Do you think he touches himself like your dad does hiding in the closet while I bang your mom.  Yeah, I saw him peaking.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Do you think he touches himself like your dad does hiding in the closet while I bang your mom.  Yeah, I saw him peaking.

My dad hides in the closet and touches himself when you bang your mom? I don't think so but yeah, he might be peaking for a show. LOL, you know I almost feel sorry for you. ;)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 03:03:49 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: King Shizzo on February 08, 2013, 03:07:46 PM
You certainly aren't a psychiatrist.  Falcon is the sanest person on the board.  He dropped the pretty boy jobless gym-wanderer schtick some time ago and works hard for a living.  

He just realizes that you have to work for things in life...which isn't always fun, but playing his Fail-Can character on here helps lighten up the day-to-day process of working hard so that your taxes can go to the lazy moochers of the world.  
You must have Falcon's cock pic saved to your hard drive.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 03:09:45 PM
your quite aggressive for a religous person, you ever thought you wont get through those pearly gates because of it?

I'm a very aggressive man. 'The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.'
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 03:23:27 PM
Gravity caused the big bang, their was no time or space prior to this. God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics. Thanks for asking and Hope this helps!

God CREATED the laws of Physics and all things in fact. I doubt there was even a Big Bang because there are many problems with that theory (yes, it's only a theory unlike what this lying sack of shit E-Kul would have you gullibly believe); God might have used the Big Bang if there was one to expand the universe but that's it. And as I said (please take note this time) time is not a physical concept like space so it exists apart from the Big Bang.



The big bang as it is understood today is an inadequate theory. There are many fundamental problems that are seldom mentioned in popular literature. Some of the “missing links” in the theory are:


Missing Origin: The big bang theory assumes an original concentration of energy. Where did this energy come from? Astronomers sometimes speak of an origin from a “quantum mechanical fluctuation within a vacuum.” However, in the big bang theory, no vacuum existed before the explosion. Actually there is no consistent secular origin theory, since every idea is based on preexisting matter or energy.


Missing Fuse: What ignited the big bang? The mass concentration proposed in this theory would remain forever bound as a universal black hole. Gravity would prevent it from ever expanding outward.


Missing Star Formation: No natural way has been found to explain the formation of planets, stars, and galaxies. An explosion should produce, at best, an outward spray of gas and radiation. This gas should continue expanding, not form intricate planets, stars, and entire galaxies.


Missing Antimatter: Some versions of the big bang theory require the equal production of matter and antimatter. However, only small traces of antimatter-positrons and antiprotons, for example-are found in space.


Missing Time: Some experiments indicate that the universe may be young, on the order of 10,000 years old. If true, then there is not sufficient time for the consequences of the big bang theory to unfold. A short time span will not allow for the gradual evolution of the stars or life on Earth.


Missing Mass: Many scientists assume that the universe will eventually stop expanding and begin to collapse inward. Then it will again explode and repeat its oscillating type of perpetual motion. This idea is an effort to avoid an origin and destiny for the universe. For oscillation to occur, however, the universe must have a certain density or distribution of mass. So far, measurements of the mass density are 100 times smaller than expected. In fact there are indications that the universe is accelerating outward instead of slowing down. The universe does not appear to be oscillating. The necessary mass or “dark matter” is “missing.”


Missing Life: In an evolving universe, life should have developed everywhere. Space should be filled with radio signals from intelligent life forms. Where is everybody?


Missing Neutrinos: These small particles should flood the earth from the sun’s fusion process. The small number detected raises questions about the sun’s energy source and man’s overall understanding of the universe. How then can science speak about “origins” with any authority?

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
I'm a very aggressive man. 'The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.'
Your an idiot - Hope this helps

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 03:32:58 PM
Your an idiot - Hope this helps



I'm a very aggressive man and I'll bash your fuckin' conehead in, you fuckin' imbecile.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 08, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
I'm a very aggressive man and I'll bash your fuckin' conehead in, you fuckin' imbecile.
:(
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 04:19:26 PM
So, how long have you been dating his daughter?  Did you have to ask his permission to date?  Seems like that would be customary.

I suspect with all the responses coming your way you overlooked this.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 04:21:48 PM
I suspect with all the responses coming your way you overlooked this.

Why don't you ask Bolo about it? ::)
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 04:25:03 PM
Why don't you ask Bolo about it? ::)

I can't, I don't know him.  So, how long have you two been dating? 
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
I can't, I don't know him.  So, how long have you two been dating? 

I'm not dating Bolo.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
god created everything


therefore god created and allowed paedophillia


god = pedophile


Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
god created everything


therefore god created and allowed paedophillia


god = pedophile




“Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.” — Matthew 22:29
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
god created everything


therefore god created and allowed paedophillia


god = pedophile




God created man who sadly invented paedophilia (possibly in collaboration with fallen angels and devils). Thus God created all things and is yet a holy and perfect God who has no hand in the immoral products of his creations.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 05:12:58 PM
so when you typed

'god created all things in fact'


you were lying

so gods followers are liars

i would rather not follow a bunch of liars

stick your god up your arse
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 05:14:06 PM
so when you typed

'god created all things in fact'


you were lying

so gods followers are liars

i would rather not follow a bunch of liars

stick your god up your arse

How was I lying? God DID create all things as I said.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 05:18:57 PM
so god created rape
cancer
pedophillia
incest
hate
spite

if he could create people from ribs why go through the practice of childbirth?

also why do the christians get battered in muslim states? mohammed is clearly a harder fucker than god and j christ
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 05:32:56 PM
so god created rape
cancer
pedophillia
incest
hate
spite

if he could create people from ribs why go through the practice of childbirth?

also why do the christians get battered in muslim states? mohammed is clearly a harder fucker than god and j christ

God created all matter (all things) but man is the one that does evil and invents shit. Childbirth is God's design for mankind not mine so go ask Him. And the Muslims that persecute Christians are just a godless bunch of infidels.

http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/false_religions.htm#islam
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
ok i will ask god

where can i meet him

hold on

i cant
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 05:50:57 PM
ok i will ask god

where can i meet him

hold on

i cant

You can read His word (the Bible) or pray to Him to reveal the answer to you.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: gee38 on February 08, 2013, 06:01:11 PM
I'd rather ask him face to face thanks

where can i do this?
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 06:04:02 PM
I'm not dating Bolo.

I know...you are dating his daughter, right?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Marty Champions on February 08, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
thanks for dumping all in my thread jon and bringing your opposition paid trolls along with you to ruin my thread "BRO"
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 08, 2013, 06:46:24 PM
thanks for dumping all in my thread jon and bringing your opposition paid trolls along with you to ruin my thread "BRO"
Spot on he/she probably don't even lift so why post on this board.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 06:50:39 PM
thanks for dumping all in my thread jon and bringing your opposition paid trolls along with you to ruin my thread "BRO"

Sorry but I had to defend God because that's what Christians do.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Skeletor on February 08, 2013, 06:51:27 PM
Sorry but I had to defend God because that's what Christians do.

Can't he defend himself?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 06:53:09 PM
Spot on he/she probably don't even lift so why post on this board.

Not only have I been lifting for many many years now I annihilate the fuckin' gym! You look like a girl next to me in terms of both your pathetic 'physique' and your joke 'lifts'. ;D
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
Can't he defend himself?

Sure but He's delegated the work to me and other Christians.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Stefano on February 08, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
I'd rather ask him face to face thanks

where can i do this?


But you cant. God isa mystery wrappedin an enigma to....dupe the sheep.

The face of god is the face of man who invented this ruse to keep the masses under control and subservient. Not suprising the most radical and hateful of all religions..islam demands submission. Only a slave submits. Little suprise that 99% of muslims are slaves to their controlling imams who pull the strings and watch their puppets dance.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 08, 2013, 06:57:02 PM
Sure but He's delegated the work to me and other Christians.

What a lazy ass
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 06:58:18 PM

But you cant. God isa mystery wrappedin an enigma to....dupe the sheep.

The face of god is the face of man who invented this ruse to keep the masses under control and subservient. Not suprising the most radical and hateful of all religions..islam demands submission. Only a slave submits. Little suprise that 99% of muslims are slaves to their controlling imams who pull the strings and watch their puppets dance.

“Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.” — Matthew 22:29
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:02:50 PM
What a lazy ass

Don't blaspheme God! He has many many things to take care of. Refer to the quote from the Bible I posted directly above too.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
Sir Jon,

Great respect for dating the daughter of a great icon like Bolo.  How long have you guys been a couple?  Does she like the 'bulked' version of you?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Stefano on February 08, 2013, 07:12:15 PM
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If a god has a problem with it he knows where to find me. So far he's rewarding me for being an unbeliever.

As for the scriptures....matty can take them scripts and shine em up. Shine em up real nice. Then take em scripts and turn them 22.29 degrees and stick em straight up his medievel ass.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Stefano on February 08, 2013, 07:17:04 PM
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Mark twain's quote is awesome. I'm saving that.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:19:55 PM
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If a god has a problem with it he knows where to find me. So far he's rewarding me for being an unbeliever.

As for the scriptures....matty can take them scripts and shine em up. Shine em up real nice. Then take em scripts and turn them 22.29 degrees and stick em straight up his medievel ass.

God is not rewarding you for jackshit. If He wants to He can easily annihilate you but He is not doing that because He loves you and wants you to repent so that you will be saved from eternal damnation. For being an unbeliever you will be cast into the lake of fire unless you change your wicked ways.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Stefano on February 08, 2013, 07:34:01 PM
God is not rewarding you for jackshit. If He wants to He can easily annihilate you but He is not doing that because He loves you and wants you to repent so that you will be saved from eternal damnation. For being an unbeliever you will be cast into the lake of fire unless you change your wicked ways.

Heh. Should have read the rest of your posts on this thread.  Realized you were part of the entertainment along with sec1

Carry on O righteous bringer of the word.  ;)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 07:43:23 PM
Heh. Should have read the rest of your posts on this thread.  Realized you were part of the entertainment along with sec1

Carry on O righteous bringer of the word.  ;)

I'm not here for your entertainment, you troll. I'm here to educate folk about God and His abiding word.
Title: Re: Idiot atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: syntaxmachine on February 08, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
one can just glance at the bantering back and forth between the trolls here and become bored very quickly and not even read there childish postings, however my posts are always concentrated upon by the paid trolls and non paid alike as well as the scientist in us all. My posts are far superior than the collective consciousness of 90 percent of the board compressed into one system.

here have a read, yes paid trolls that includes you, i want you to enjoy something besides money for a change


A strong theme running through Russell’s schematics, especially evident in his ‘Home Study Course’ is the correspondences of geometric equivalences and orders. The charts resemble sets of musical scales, denoting frameworks of periodicity and harmony within particular natural systems. Many of the diagrams, at first glance, might easily be be misinterpreted as modern musical notation. ‘Stages of Growth in the Nine pairs of Radar Mirrors’ is a prime example. The top half insinuates a time-line while the bottom half connotes a wiring schematic for a multi-channel electro-acoustic performance!

Controlled Power Multiplication Principle as Recorded by Gravity Bar - Walter Russell
Controlled Power Multiplication Principle as Recorded by Gravity Bar – Walter Russell
(http://www.dataisnature.com/images/Controlled_Power_Multiplication_Principle_as_Recorded_by_Gravity_Bar.jpg)

The pseudo-science and religious ideas served up by Russell, and his wife Lao, at the University of Science and Philosophy paint a patchwork pattern of fuzzy utopianism, idealism and at times naivety. As Art-Brut is to Art, so characters like Russell and Lao are to traditional mainstream science and so they are essential. It might just be the case that Walter Russell’s genius, and his diagrams, can only be decoded at a later moment in time. His friend Nikola Tesla had advised him to lock away his work in a safe for 1000 years – because humankind was not yet mature enough for it.

‘The glory of becoming a transcendent being is the only reason for living’ – Lao Russell

‘Mediocrity is self-inflicted and genius is self-bestowed’ – Walter Russell

There is a different Russell whose reasoning on such matters you would do well to consider -- not that it is necessarily correct, but certainly it is of a higher quality than this drug-induced babble.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Krankenstein on February 08, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
Sir Jon,

Great respect for dating the daughter of a great icon like Bolo.  How long have you guys been a couple?  Does she like the 'bulked' version of you?

Why don't you want to answer Jon?  I am trying to have a conversation with you.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 08, 2013, 11:44:40 PM
Don't blaspheme God! He has many many things to take care of...

Dear defender of god, why does he then not protect believers from natural evils, like diseases, tsunamis, avalanches, storms etc.?

These misfortunes happen to christians just as much as non christians. (Shown already by Galton). There is no free will behind such misfortunes, then why does god not help his loyal shee., ehr- believers?

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 08, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
Dear defender of god, why does he then not protect believers from natural evils, like diseases, tsunamis, avalanches, storms etc.?

These misfortunes happen to christians just as much as non christians. (Shown already by Galton). There is no free will behind such misfortunes, then why does god not help his loyal shee., ehr- believers?

NN

You clearly have a very poor understanding of Christian theology.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 08, 2013, 11:49:52 PM
You clearly have a very poor understanding of Christian theology.

Please enlighten me. Christians use "free will" as an excuse for the existence of evil, but free will does not appy here.

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
Dear defender of god, why does he then not protect believers from natural evils, like diseases, tsunamis, avalanches, storms etc.?

These misfortunes happen to christians just as much as non christians. (Shown already by Galton). There is no free will behind such misfortunes, then why does god not help his loyal shee., ehr- believers?

NN

God does protect his believers from natural evils. I'm a believer and I'm protected! Believers may not be protected all the time though; God is, however, definitely with them in their time of trouble. If you have further questions please refer to the below resource.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html
 



Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 08, 2013, 11:52:55 PM
Please enlighten me. Christians use "free will" as an excuse for the existence of evil, but free will does not appy here.

NN

When Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis Chapter 3), they brought evil, sickness, disease, disaster and death into the world. Sin has been wreaking havoc on the human race ever since.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: outby43 on February 08, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
When Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis Chapter 3), they brought evil, sickness, disease, disaster and death into the world. Sin has been wreaking havoc on the human race ever since.

Was there a definition of what a sin was back then?  Did Evil, sickness, disease, disaster and death wait around the corner for their opportunity to strike?  Who made these outlandish characters?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:02:17 AM
Was there a definition of what a sin was back then?  Did Evil, sickness, disease, disaster and death wait around the corner for their opportunity to strike?  Who made these outlandish characters?

Why not ask these lovely Christian ladies? You ask a stupid question you get a.......

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:09:25 AM
“GREAT is the LORD and GREATLY to be praised, and his GREATNESS is unsearchable!”
—Psalms 145:3

God is AMAZING!
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 09, 2013, 12:10:10 AM
Please enlighten me. Christians use "free will" as an excuse for the existence of evil, but free will does not appy here.

NN

The universe is far more complex than you allow.  And god is far more complex than you understand.  Evil is a part of life.  What matters is how we react to it.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 12:39:32 AM
The universe is far more complex than you allow.  And god is far more complex than you understand.  Evil is a part of life.  What matters is how we react to it.

This is christian theology? Sounds more like good common sense!

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 12:46:38 AM
When Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis Chapter 3), they brought evil, sickness, disease, disaster and death into the world. Sin has been wreaking havoc on the human race ever since.

This was reversed when jesus gave his life on the cross. So, why do christians suffer from random accidents just like non christians?

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 09, 2013, 12:51:10 AM
God does protect his believers from natural evils. I'm a believer and I'm protected! Believers may not be protected all the time though; God is, however, definitely with them in their time of trouble. If you have further questions please refer to the below resource.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html
 




So the good god fearing folk of Sandy Hook were protected were they?.  Or because the 5 year old children weren't old enough for the religious brainwashing to stick and for them to believe in anything, were they fair game to be struck down, did they not deserve the protection of the LORD, or was it as you say, just one of those convenient times, when GOD in his infinite wisdom was taking some time out and removed his protection.  Why wasn't GOD there with the little children in their time of need?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 09, 2013, 01:55:33 AM
This was reversed when jesus gave his life on the cross. So, why do christians suffer from random accidents just like non christians?

NN

Yes Jesus was the new Adam, but a Christian's ultimate freedom from the stain of sin comes with the ressurrection of the body.  Remember even the greatest apostles suffered sickness and suffering in life.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 09, 2013, 05:11:29 AM
The universe is far more complex than you allow.  And god is far more complex than you understand.  Evil is a part of life.  What matters is how we react to it.

Then why does every Christian I've ever met seem to think they've got all the answers?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 07:03:39 AM
So the good god fearing folk of Sandy Hook were protected were they?.  Or because the 5 year old children weren't old enough for the religious brainwashing to stick and for them to believe in anything, were they fair game to be struck down, did they not deserve the protection of the LORD, or was it as you say, just one of those convenient times, when GOD in his infinite wisdom was taking some time out and removed his protection.  Why wasn't GOD there with the little children in their time of need?

Where was the omnipresent God in Sandy Hook? Just where He always is, in the midst of the mess. He’s there suffering with the victims, bearing the horror with us and weeping with those who mourn and raging with those who rage. Do you feel righteous rage at the insanity and senselessness of this evil? So does God. Now you understand what God’s wrath is like. Do you feel helpless sorrow, pity and nameless frustration in the face of such terror? So does God. Now you understand His frustration and anger at humanity’s inhumanity. Do you feel compassion and heartache, and don’t you want to do something for the people who are hurting–do just anything you can? So does God. Now you know how much He longs to come in to our lives and help us and do something for us to heal and reconcile and make things right. Don’t you feel rage and frustration and confusion and fear for the poor sick boy who pulled the trigger? Don’t you ask what made him do such a thing? What turned him into a murderous monster? God is in the middle of all the emotions–in the middle of the mess with us so blame the evildoers not God.
 
Why doesn’t he step in and stop the evil? Because he’s God and he created our race with free will. He allow us to do what we will. He does not impose his will on us–even when he sees what horrors we have planned. He did not deliver his own Son from torture and death, but instead brought out of that darkness a new light for mankind. That’s how He handles it. He works endlessly and eternally to bring good out of evil, to bring light out of darkness, to bring life out of death and hope out of despair. This creative work of his is something he calls us to share in. We co-operate with this creative work of reconcilation. He has given us the ministry of reconciliation–to somehow fashion out of the horror–hope–to somehow keep on struggling against all odds to overcome the tsunami of evil that threatens to sweep over.
 
Where did the evil come from in the first place? You can’t blame it on a broken family. There are many kids from broken families who do not go on a killing spree. You can’t blame it on video games. Millions of kids play video games and don’t go out with guns to kill kindergarten children. You can’t blame it on guns. Millions have guns who do not kill babies. You can’t blame it on learning disabilities or being shy. There are many shy people with learning disabilities who are not killers. You can’t blame it on the devil unless there is evidence of demonic activity. We will probably never know what caused that boy to snap and go on such a senseless rampage.
 
However, I know one thing: our society is broken. Our world is broken. Our families are broken. For the last few decades we have indulged in evil. The evil of broken families. The evil of sexual promiscuity, and the subsequent violence of abortion. The evil of greed, and the subsequent violence of stealing from the poor. The evil of war. The evil of drugs. The evil of crime warfare. The evil of organized crime. The evil of a war mongering, world conquering mentality. The evil of forgetting God. The evil of materialism. The evil of complacency. The evil of forgetting that there is such a thing as evil. The evil of living a superficial selfish and pleasure seeking life and thinking that it is simply a nice, cheerful, “successful” American thing to do.
 
What I’m getting at is this: our Western society is sick–sick through and through with an insidious cancer. Just beneath the smiling surface of America there is a cancer of sin, and the symptom of this sickness is violence. I am just as horrified as the next person at the senseless murders in Connecticut, and I truly hope I am wrong, but I predict more of the same. The sickness is deep down in our culture, and it will continue to poke out it’s monstrous head (like that incubating beast the Alien movie) and ravage the land whenever it gets the chance.
 
This violence (and the other recent violence) has burst forth from our collective psyche. The boy who pulled the trigger is our son. He is our offspring. Beneath the surface our society is deeply unhealthy, and unless something is done to correct that sickness, the symptoms will continue to surface.
 
And it ain't gonna be pretty.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 09, 2013, 07:05:54 AM
Then why does every Christian I've ever met seem to think they've got all the answers?

Foolish pride.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 07:09:07 AM
So the good god fearing folk of Sandy Hook were protected were they?.  Or because the 5 year old children weren't old enough for the religious brainwashing to stick and for them to believe in anything, were they fair game to be struck down, did they not deserve the protection of the LORD, or was it as you say, just one of those convenient times, when GOD in his infinite wisdom was taking some time out and removed his protection.  Why wasn't GOD there with the little children in their time of need?

Keep in mind that suffering has been a part of Christianity since its beginning. When Jesus was born, the Devil compelled his pawn King Herod to have all children 2 years old and younger murdered in an attempt to eliminate the Messiah.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 08:41:04 AM
Where was the omnipresent God in Sandy Hook? Just where He always is, in the midst of the mess. He’s there suffering with the victims, bearing the horror with us and weeping with those who mourn and raging with those who rage. Do you feel righteous rage at the insanity and senselessness of this evil? So does God. Now you understand what God’s wrath is like. Do you feel helpless sorrow, pity and nameless frustration in the face of such terror? So does God. Now you understand His frustration and anger at humanity’s inhumanity. ...

What is the point of reducing your "god" to the point that "he" is  having human emotions? Human emotions stem from neurobiological systems such as the amygdala, the insula, hypothalamus, the limbic system in general and hormones. Without these systems- no emotion.

Does your "god" have an amygdala that fuels his "wrath". Does "he" release epinephrine and norepinephrine and cortisol as "he" feels "wrath"?


Your belief system is stupid beyond salvation. Man made god in his image....

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 08:59:06 AM
What is the point of reducing your "god" to the point that "he" is  having human emotions? Human emotions stem from neurobiological systems such as the amygdala, the insula, hypothalamus, the limbic system in general and hormones. Without these systems- no emotion.

Does your "god" have an amygdala that fuels his "wrath". Does "he" release epinephrine and norepinephrine and cortisol as "he" feels "wrath"?


Your belief system is stupid beyond salvation. Man made god in his image....

NN

LOL, God is GOD. He sure doesn't need the human body to feel anything. Emotions are emotions, period. These can be had any any sentient being with enough intelligence and free will, be it a God, angel or human. Remember, despite your blasphemous statement and filthy lie, God made man in His image. That means everything man is comes from God; why should you be surprised if man is somewhat like His Creator in his capacity to feel? However, God's complexity is infinitely what man can even comprehend with his finite brain. There's nothing wrong with or stupid about my belief system. Rather the problem lies with your hardness of heart and pleasure in sin. If you don't mend your wicked ways then you'll be damned eternally. Instead of talking shit about things you obviously know nothing about try pulling your head out of your ass and start obeying your Creator for a change.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Archer77 on February 09, 2013, 09:23:21 AM
Foolish pride.


Great answer.  I appreciate the honesty.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 09:41:38 AM
LOL, God is GOD. He sure doesn't need the human body to feel anything. Emotions are emotions, period. These can be had any any sentient being with enough intelligence and free will, be it a God, angel or human. Remember, despite your blasphemous statement and filthy lie, God made man in His image. That means everything man is comes from God; why should you be surprised if man is somewhat like His Creator in his capacity to feel? However, God's complexity is infinitely what man can even comprehend with his finite brain. There's nothing wrong with or stupid about my belief system. Rather the problem lies with your hardness of heart and pleasure in sin. If you don't mend your wicked ways then you'll be damned eternally. Instead of talking shit about things you obviously know nothing about try pulling your head out of your ass and start obeying your Creator for a change.

You are a troll, but I'll bite ;-). What is shocking about you christians, is that you don't realize how egosentrical you are, or perhaps antroposentrical is a better term. Human emotion is a property of the human nervous system. Why on earth do you think human emotions apply to an omnipotent and omniscient "god"?

As I said: Your god is ridiculous. An omnipotent and all-knowing creature would not have emotional systems like that of humans. That would be to reduce that "god" to a mammal. Mammals "love" their babies. Mammals "fear" dangerous situations. Mammals are "angry" at rivals. By your reasoning, god is a mammal.

Does your god fear things in the sky? Is your god "angry"? What would be the point of that. god need not be angry- he is according to you- omnipotent. No need for anger.

Many christians name god as "father". This is an example of man inventing god in mans image. Man loves his parents and his children, ergo: there is a god who does the same. Stupid, primitive and ridiculous! god as mammal!

NN

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 09:50:49 AM
You are a troll, but I'll bite ;-). What is shocking about you christians, is that you don't realize how egosentrical you are, or perhaps antroposentrical is a better term. Human emotion is a property of the human nervous system. Why on earth do you think human emotions apply to an omnipotent and omniscient "god"?

As I said: Your god is ridiculous. An omnipotent and all-knowing creature would not have emotional systems like that of humans. That would be to reduce that "god" to a mammal. Mammals "love" their babies. Mammals "fear" dangerous situations. Mammals are "angry" at rivals. By your reasoning, god is a mammal.

Does your god fear things in the sky? Is your god "angry"? What would be the point of that. god need not be angry- he is according to you- omnipotent. No need for anger.

Many christians name god as "father". This is an example of man inventing god in mans image. Man loves his parents and his children, ergo: there is a god who does the same. Stupid, primitive and ridiculous! god as mammal!

NN



You're trolling away like a madman now, and I'm the troll???? What sort of warped logic is that? You fuckin' nitwit, read the below and learn. Of course God has emotions because He is also a being, not a robot. What the hell is wrong with your little brain?

God's Impassiblity
It is often wrongly argued from Acts 14:11-15 (esp. v. 15), that God is without passions, feelings, or emotions. And, while it is true that these verses draw a very clear distinction between man and God, they do not teach that God is emotionless. In fact, the whole of scriptures teaches clearly that God has emotions. God loves his people (Is. 54:5), is true love (1 John 4:8), rejoices with his people (Is. 62:5), is grieved by his people (Ps. 78:40), pities his people (Ps. 103:13), and expresses his wrath against sin (Ex. 32:10), etc.... As creatures made in the image of God, one might expect that the feelings and emotions of man are reflections to some extent of God's own emotional capacities.

Because scripture interprets scripture, the key point of Acts 14:11-5, therefore, is not that God has no feelings or emotions. While Paul is teaching that there is a fundamental difference between man's nature and God's, the difference is not that man has passions, while God does not. Instead, the emotions of man are quite different from God's. Additionally, these emotions and feelings happen upon the two quite differently.

An examination of the acts of God recorded in the Bible compared to the track record of man demonstrates unambiguous differences in how God bears and expresses his emotions. In the case of God, there can be no rash or extreme forms of emotion. To be sure, God's emotions never lead to sin. Man, on the other hand, will often act in the extreme and allow his fleeting emotions to sway his actions or immediate thinking. In many cases, man's emotions lead directly to sin (Jer. 17:9). Man is certainly like a "wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind" (James 1:6). Man is not slow to speak or act out of his emotions, but he is rash. God, on the other hand, is balanced, temperate, and unchanging in his purposes.

The second factor that distinguishes the emotions of God and man is the means by which the two experience these emotions. In the case of God, all of his emotions are entered into voluntarily. God is never "surprised" by something that affects him, since he is the Sovereign Creator who has planned all things from before all time. Man, on the other hand, is subject to experiences beyond his control and enters into all of his emotions rather involuntarily.

Conclusions
Therefore, when God is described Biblically to be impassible, it does not mean that God has no feeling. For the contrary is quite the truth, that God is personal and has interacted directly with man throughout history - for he is God With Us, Immanuel. That is the beauty of a Covenant God, a God who most supremely demonstrated his emotions and feelings for man in the cross of Christ, by sending his own Son into this world to bear the sins of his people. It is perhaps the greatest act of personal love and wrath a God would ever have conceived and executed. It was purposed from before all time and carried out with surety in time in Jesus Christ. It is the act of an impassible God who is complete with joy, yet who feels and emotes perfectly and voluntarily.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 09:58:55 AM
You're trolling away like a madman now, and I'm the troll???? What sort of warped logic is that? You fuckin' nitwit, read the below and learn. Of course God has emotions because He is also a being, not a robot. What the hell is wrong with your little brain?

God's Impassiblity
It is often wrongly argued from Acts 14:11-15 (esp. v. 15), that God is without passions, feelings, or emotions......


You stole that from http://xristian.org/qs/godfeeling.html

Pathetic plagiarism. You are clearly not able to think for yourself. Typical religious nutcase.

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
You stole that from http://xristian.org/qs/godfeeling.html

Pathetic plagiarism.

NN

No, I just took the material to answer your stupid question. You should be grateful I even bothered instead of this shit you're giving me. The point here is read the stuff and learn. It doesn't matter who wrote it as long as you understand the truth and escape the veil of ignorance.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 10:03:20 AM
No, I just took the material to answer your stupid question. You should be grateful I even bothered instead of this shit you're giving me. The point here is read the stuff and learn. It doesn't matter who wrote it as long as you understand the truth and escape the veil of ignorance.

No quotes, no reference- hence plagiarism.

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 09, 2013, 10:04:28 AM
You try to say Christians say god is like us, and how ridiculous to suggest he is just a mammal, but what about the point of view that it is the other way around and we are like god, only shadows of his greatness of course.

So it is not reducing god to a mammal, but saying a mammal has qualities like god, in a humbler sense.

You are a troll, but I'll bite ;-). What is shocking about you christians, is that you don't realize how egosentrical you are, or perhaps antroposentrical is a better term. Human emotion is a property of the human nervous system. Why on earth do you think human emotions apply to an omnipotent and omniscient "god"?

As I said: Your god is ridiculous. An omnipotent and all-knowing creature would not have emotional systems like that of humans. That would be to reduce that "god" to a mammal. Mammals "love" their babies. Mammals "fear" dangerous situations. Mammals are "angry" at rivals. By your reasoning, god is a mammal.

Does your god fear things in the sky? Is your god "angry"? What would be the point of that. god need not be angry- he is according to you- omnipotent. No need for anger.

Many christians name god as "father". This is an example of man inventing god in mans image. Man loves his parents and his children, ergo: there is a god who does the same. Stupid, primitive and ridiculous! god as mammal!

NN


Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 10:06:06 AM
No quotes, no reference- hence plagiarism.

NN

This isn't university, this is just a forum, you cretin. I was just answering your silly question and it was well answered. ::)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 09, 2013, 10:06:17 AM
This is christian theology? Sounds more like good common sense!

NN

Yes it is theology.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 10:17:02 AM
You try to say Christians say god is like us, and how ridiculous to suggest he is just a mammal, but what about the point of view that it is the other way around and we are like god, only shadows of his greatness of course.

So it is not reducing god to a mammal, but saying a mammal has qualities like god, in a humbler sense.


The problem with that view is that emotions are so clearly associated with biological systems. If you lesion certain structures of the brain, you can erase the ability to feel anger, fear, etc.

Certain drugs also can reduce the ability to feel for instance anxiety.

On a comparative level- animal emotions are clearly adaptive. Fear has obvious adaptive functions. No fear, and the animal soon will die if situated in dangerous conditions.

Fear makes no sense for an omnipotent "god". Same with anger. Love? Hmm- maybe a case can be made for love. But the evidence indicates that man made god, not that god made man.

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 10:19:32 AM
This isn't university, this is just a forum, you cretin. I was just answering your silly question and it was well answered. ::)

Not crediting your source when cutting and pasting large amounts of text written by someone else is intellectual dishonesty anyway.

But you have a point, cause the word "intellectual" is not appropriate for the text you stole.

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 10:23:11 AM
Not crediting your source when cutting and pasting large amounts of text written by someone else is intellectual dishonesty anyway.

But you have a point, cause the word "intellectual" is not appropriate for the text you stole.

NN

The text is great for my purpose and answers your question perfectly. Don't fault the text if you're too dumb to grasp its meaning. THere's no need to credit my source because I was just replying to you, I didn't put my name there as though I wrote it.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 10:30:51 AM
The text is great for my purpose and answers your question perfectly. Don't fault the text if you're too dumb to grasp its meaning. THere's no need to credit my source because I was just replying to you, I didn't put my name there as though I wrote it.

Quit stealing the work of others and explain to me why an omnipotent god should need to feel anger?

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 10:34:54 AM
Quit stealing the work of others and explain to me why an omnipotent god should need to feel anger?

NN

You lazy fuck, I've already explained that to you (albeit with someone else's words). And even Gandhi would get pissed to high heaven at the buffoonery of jackasses like you, let alone the omnipotent God who doesn't take shit from anybody (including the angels).
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
You lazy fuck, I've already explained that to you (albeit with someone else's words). And even Gandhi would get pissed to high heaven at the buffoonery of jackasses like you, let alone the omnipotent God who doesn't take shit from anybody (including the angels).

"Not taking shit" is an example of animal and human behavior in a social dominance context.

Why do you think an omnipotent and omniscient god would want to participate in a social dominance game?

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 10:50:19 AM
"Not taking shit" is an example of animal and human behavior in a social dominance context.

Why do you think an omnipotent and omniscient god would want to participate in a social dominance game?

NN

What social dominance? It's PLAIN dominance, genius. 'Hallelujah for the Lord God OMNIPOTENT reigneth.'
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 10:52:28 AM
What social dominance? It's PLAIN dominance, genius. 'Hallelujah for the Lord God OMNIPOTENT reigneth.'

Dominance in a vacum? Are there other gods in the sky to challenge "him"?

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: tbombz on February 09, 2013, 10:56:04 AM
i absolutely love talking about the idea of god and spirituality.


however whenever i come across a conversation on the subject(s), i almost always am encounterfed with conversation about the bible.

and its a damn shame that so many people are caught up on dogma. it is seriously a major fucking problem.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 10:57:48 AM
Dominance in a vacum? Are there other gods in the sky to challenge "him"?

NN

Nobody can challenge Him of course since He created everything and upholds the very existence of all creation but some wicked angels and men do try to oppose Him by persecuting His believers/followers.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: B_B_C on February 09, 2013, 10:59:22 AM
Nobody can challenge Him of course since He created everything and upholds the very existence of all creation but some wicked angels and men do try to oppose Him by persecuting His believers/followers.

are you a fat man or a humble man?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: NordicNerd on February 09, 2013, 11:07:15 AM
Nobody can challenge Him of course since He created everything and upholds the very existence of all creation but some wicked angels and men do try to oppose Him by persecuting His believers/followers.

There is no point in anger if you are omniscient or omnipotent. Nobody can challenge you anyway.

NN
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Natural Man on February 09, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Nobody can challenge Him of course since He created everything and upholds the very existence of all creation but some wicked angels and men do try to oppose Him by persecuting His believers/followers.
You realize you talk about God like he s a human, because you re human? Look up "anthropomorphism" in the dictionnary. You attribute him human traits, because you re human.

In the Bible God is described as an alien with tentacles.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
There is no point in anger if you are omniscient or omnipotent. Nobody can challenge you anyway.

NN

Evil stirs the all-powerful God to great wrath because of His perfect righteousness. That is why He will consume the wicked in consummate justice. 'For our God is a consuming fire.'
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 11:19:12 AM
You realize you talk about God like he s a human, because you re human? Look up "anthropomorphism" in the dictionnary. You attribute him human traits, because you re human.

In the Bible God is described as an alien with tentacles.

On the contrary we humans possess some of God's traits since He made us in His image. Go read the Bible for more information. And the only alien with tentacles is the one you were screwing yesterday, there are witnesses! ;)
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Man of Steel on February 09, 2013, 12:03:36 PM
Christians are dumb, atheists are smart....end of thread.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:11:07 PM
Christians are smart, atheists are dumb....end of thread.

Fixed, there you go. :D
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: B_B_C on February 09, 2013, 12:14:58 PM
Fixed, there you go. :D




are you a smart man or a humble man?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 09, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Religion HA HA





Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:26:36 PM
Christians are dumb, atheists are smart....end of thread.

'The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.'
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: B_B_C on February 09, 2013, 12:27:47 PM
'The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.'



are you a stupid fat man or a humble man?


Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:37:46 PM
Religion HA HA







Why are so obstinately fixed against your own Creator who loves you indescribably much? He created you to follow, serve, worship, fear, honour and obey Him. Haven't I already given you this resource for to answer ALL your dumb questions?

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html
 
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 09, 2013, 12:40:57 PM
Why are so obstinately fixed against your own Creator who loves you indescribably much? Haven't I already given you this resource for to answer ALL your dumb questions?
Why are so obstinately fixed against your own Creator who loves you indescribably much? Haven't I already given you this resource for to answer ALL your dumb questions?
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:42:15 PM
Why are so obstinately fixed against your own Creator who loves you indescribably much? Haven't I already given you this resource for to answer ALL your dumb questions?

The link's above, dumbass.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Radical Plato on February 09, 2013, 12:43:00 PM
The link's above, dumbass.
The link's above, dumbass.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:44:25 PM
The link's above, dumbass.

Hey sexy lady...
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 09, 2013, 12:46:54 PM
Deadlifts.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
The link's above, dumbass.

Haha.
Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: B_B_C on February 09, 2013, 01:14:49 PM
Haha.



you are indeed a humble man
you have alot to be humble about

Title: Re: Atheist "scientist" Steven Hawkin says god didnt build the universe
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 09, 2013, 01:25:55 PM


you are indeed a humble man
you have alot to be humble about



Why's that, kid?