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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Natural Bodybuilding => Topic started by: GET_BIGGER on January 24, 2006, 11:42:21 AM
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Keep tabs on this gorgeous little lady at the Jr. Nationals.
Good luck Jennifer, from your fans here at GetBig!!!!
(When you make it big.....don't forget us here ;D )
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Phase one stalkage commences! ;D
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Well...in phase one you have already made a mistake....
My name is Jennifer Lynn COWAN, I'll forgive you this time but don't let it happen again ;)
very close though, very close
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That game only works on high school students and women with a sub 80 IQ 8).
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Here are a few more, if I post too many no one will have to go to my eventual website though:)
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some more
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yep id say something but.....I......I just cant...
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w'sup jen? im a big fan, good luck!
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are you avas sister?
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are you avas sister?
First I wanted to tell you your avatar is just wrong...
No I'm not Ava's sister. She is quite beautiful but I don't think she is as white as I am, she has an exotic look about her.
Thanks for being a fan ;D
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w'sup jen? im a big fan, good luck!
What you're straight :o
Well done Jen I think you turned this guy, impressive ;)
PS: Nice Gluets how do you train em? Some girls I know want advice on this (they say they want to lift and tone those babies) what should I tell them ???
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blank (damb I keep quoting instead of modifying).
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As long as me turning someone straight isn't becaue I look like a she-male I will take it as a compliment ;)
As far as my glutes...I think my track and jumping history has something to do with it, as well as the poses I am in help accentuate them. My advice for these women is, you don't really tone, you have to work hard to build muscle. Heavy squats, lunges, deadlifts...also try incorporating plyos and sprints a few times a month. I do plyos at my gym with the steppers (going over them and on top of them) and go to a high school and run stadiums.
A few more pics (the second one I'm not dieted down though)
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that is on hell of an itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny pinky polka dot bikini!!!
how old are you Jenny. I know a daft question but curious what kinda weights you use.
You look great in all pics especially the last one. wish i had a g/f that kinda shape and figure. perfect
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I am in love.
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I'm 24 and have been competing since last year. Are you asking what kind of lifts I do or how much weight with each lift? Basically I stick to the basics but lift as heavy as I can. I have a 4 to 5 day split and switch up my sets/reps every 2 weeks. Last year I competed at 115 and on stage was too thin, I lost quite a bit of muscle while dieting and didn't give myself enough time to build up my physique before I started cutting. This year I have hit the weight room hard, actually I was up to 140 for awhile mainly trying to put on some size in my legs, shoulders and back.
For my first show I only used protein powder and I knew I couldn't do that again if I want to place on the National Level. I started using more supplements and I seriously have had some great results. I have only maxed out on squats (although it was after doing 4 previous sets of 8-12 reps and leg extensions) at 315 and have never truly maxed out on other lifts. SLDL's, I rep sets of 6 at 185. Leg Press, my last set was 8 plates on each side. Bench-repped 135.
The people at my gym are pretty use to me but I like going to other gyms (especially when lifting legs) because half the guys there haven't squatted in 5 years and are amazed. Its a silly little pleasure of mine but I like being strong:)
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Man I was hioping to get more than 2 post under my belt before I had to break out with.
I'd Hit it !
You have the one thing allot of fitness and bodybuilding women don't, a very beautiful fenemine face.
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Sorry to bump an old thread - but you look very good Jennifer. Best of luck in your upcoming shows :)
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Thank you CQ, the luck I will definitely take!
As for you getbigger, you are like my online bf...always saying nice things to me and making me feel good. Thanks for making me smile when I am dieting (sometimes that is a rare thing!)
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ok, when boys are too nice I break up with them so you had better watch it:)
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I have nothing to say to that.... :D
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It's not uncommon for me to take breaths away....... ;D
Sorry for leading you on, I should've known better then to trust a "nice" guy on the internet. You boys never change do you???
you can buy an 8x10 (no..not naked) for $15 and do whatever you want to it. I'll even sign it for you :-*
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Good spokeswoman for natural training.. ::)
"If I am too small at Jr's then I will do a cycle"
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can I be inside you?
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Good spokeswoman for natural training.. ::)
"If I am too small at Jr's then I will do a cycle"
ummmm, if you follow anything I was talking about creatine, I guess I didn't realize that if I used that I wasn't natural. You are a moron.
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can I be inside you?
the answer is still no, it doesn't matter what screen name you use
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yes I'm broadstreetbruiser. ::)
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ummmm, if you follow anything I was talking about creatine, I guess I didn't realize that if I used that I wasn't natural. You are a moron.
You talk about creatine like it's a drug.
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can I sleep in your womb?
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can I sleep in your womb?
i can't help myself. ???
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I'm black and I go Raw....wanna hook?
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You talk about creatine like it's a drug.
I talk about creatine like it is going to change the way my body looks. At this point I am not sure I need to get any bigger to compete in Figure, which is why I have been contemplating using it or not...not because I think of it as a drug but because with Figure there is a point where you are TOO BIG. And I am sorry, I didn't realize the term "cycle" was mutually exclusive to steroids??? People only cycle gear??? Oh Great One, please help me understand the bodybuilder's language ::)
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People only cycle gear???
Yes, pretty much.
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Yes, pretty much.
I thought you meant gear also.....
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Hey Jennifer, First off you look great. Best of luck at Jr. Nationals. I'm from the Chicago area to...I go to that show every year. Looking forward to seeing you on stage. I noticed you mentioned PRIDE NUTRITION products. I see them around at local shows and been to their website a few times. I like what I read. It seems like they're going to be a quality company dishing out real non-hyped products. Do they have a creatine product? I heard they either DO or they are comming out with one to be presented at the ASC this week. Can you honestly vouch for their products...how are they. Do/did they make a difference in your training, recovery, physique etc... I was thinking about stopping by their booth at the ASC and try their RESPECT PROTEIN if they have sample packs or anything. Will you be there with them? Any input on them will be great...thanks, Jen.
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I thought you meant gear also..... :-\
I guess I am sorry and I should have clarified. Once again...I WILL NEVER TRY STEROIDS OR ANY OTHER BANNED DRUG, I PLAN ON DOING A FEW NATURAL SHOWS...DOING STEROIDS WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO DO THESE SHOWS. ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE APPEARANCE OF MY FACE, MY CLIT OR MY VOICE-I LOVE THEM ALL THEY WAY THEY ARE. AS I HAVE ALSO STATED BEFORE I ALREADY HAVE A WIDER WAIST...I DON'T NEED THIS PROBLEM TO BE AMPLIFIED BY USING DRUGS. I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER USE STEROIDS OR HGH OR WHATEVER ELSE PEOPLE USE.
GB-we have had numerous discussions on creatine, hey I even started a thread about it...I guess I didn't realize my statements were so misleading.
I AM A NATURAL COMPETITOR AND PLAN ON STAYING THIS WAY, IF I CHANGE MY MIND ON THIS I WILL START A THREAD SAYING I WANT TO DO DRUGS...PROBABLY IN THE STEROIDS SECTION AND NOT THE NATURAL BODYBUILDING SECTION
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Hey Jennifer, First off you look great. Best of luck at Jr. Nationals. I'm from the Chicago area to...I go to that show every year. Looking forward to seeing you on stage. I noticed you mentioned PRIDE NUTRITION products. I see them around at local shows and been to their website a few times. I like what I read. It seems like they're going to be a quality company dishing out real non-hyped products. Do they have a creatine product? I heard they either DO or they are comming out with one to be presented at the ASC this week. Can you honestly vouch for their products...how are they. Do/did they make a difference in your training, recovery, physique etc... I was thinking about stopping by their booth at the ASC and try their RESPECT PROTEIN if they have sample packs or anything. Will you be there with them? Any input on them will be great...thanks, Jen.
Hey there, definitely come say hi to me at the Arnold, I will be at the Pride Nutrition booth most the weekend. They are actually unveiling their creatine at the Arnold...if I were planning on taking a cycle ;D (let me clarify...of creatine) I would use theirs, just because the luck I have had with their other stuff. The owners will be there also so you can ask them whatever you like but I do use most of their products and have seen some nice results. We can talk about it in person and if you don't see me at the Arnold I will be at basically all the local shows in Chicago this year helping my girls out. They may have more information on their site, www.pridenutrition.com or maybe I know more:) either way try to stop by.
Oh, I don't think they are handing out packets of protein but last I heard they are getting a huge mixer for samples. Do you use their stuff now? I am a chocolate lover but try the vanilla if you haven't-I swear it tastes like cake batter. Anyway, thanks for the nice comments...it has been a rarity here lately:) And I appreciate the support for Junior Nationals, I am starting to get nervous and the dieting is never fun.
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I guess I am sorry and I should have clarified. Once again...I WILL NEVER TRY STEROIDS OR ANY OTHER BANNED DRUG, I PLAN ON DOING A FEW NATURAL SHOWS...DOING STEROIDS WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO DO THESE SHOWS. ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE APPEARANCE OF MY FACE, MY CLIT OR MY VOICE-I LOVE THEM ALL THEY WAY THEY ARE. AS I HAVE ALSO STATED BEFORE I ALREADY HAVE A WIDER WAIST...I DON'T NEED THIS PROBLEM TO BE AMPLIFIED BY USING DRUGS. I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER USE STEROIDS OR HGH OR WHATEVER ELSE PEOPLE USE.
GB-we have had numerous discussions on creatine, hey I even started a thread about it...I guess I didn't realize my statements were so misleading.
I AM A NATURAL COMPETITOR AND PLAN ON STAYING THIS WAY, IF I CHANGE MY MIND ON THIS I WILL START A THREAD SAYING I WANT TO DO DRUGS...PROBABLY IN THE STEROIDS SECTION AND NOT THE NATURAL BODYBUILDING SECTION
Well alrighty then, guess we got that clear. ;D
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Jennifer,
Hey I just had my first Vanilla RESPECT shake by Pride Nutrition. I just want to thank you PERSONALLY for getting a discount on it for dropping your name! I went to their website, decided to try their vanilla protein powder so I called them up direct. I got the owner of the company on the phone (Frank Bosco) he asked me a few questions on how I heard of them, if I ever tried their products before, what I currently use now so after chatting with him for a while I told him how I know of you posting here and you reccomend them so he hooked me up with a discount and PERSONALLY delivered it to me in his own car. I thought he was kidding but he knew the part of the southside(Chicago) I live in so sure enough this morning he calls my cell to arrange the delivery. He came right to my door with a PRIDE NUTRITION t-shirt. Now thats a cool cat, right there! I didnt expect that for anything. He had alot of good things to say about you. So thanks again, Jennifer! I mixed 2 scoops with water. No lie it taste just as rich w/ flavor as musclemilk vanilla does. 49 grams of pure whey isolate. I'll be at the ASC this week...I'll introduce myself to you and thank Mr. Bosco again. Matter o' fact...I'm gonna sport' my new t-shirt around the expo...REPRESENTING!
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You look healthy, happy. Keep up what ever you are doing!
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Very cool, block-Pride is a great company and I am glad you had a good experience. Well, since you are name-dropping you better introduce yourself this weekend!
I actually don't like muscle milk because it makes my stomach hurt, so I can't really relate to the whole taste thing but I'm glad you like it. Are you training for a show or just lifting? If you are doing a show in the Chicago area let me know.
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You look healthy, happy. Keep up what ever you are doing!
Thanks ;)
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I will make this an Ask Jennifer Lynn Cowan thread".
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I will make this an Ask Jennifer Lynn Cowan thread".
So does that mean I will get paid for my services??? ;D
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Jennifer,
I will for sure stop by PRIDE NUTRITION's booth this weekend and introduce myself. I think I'll pick up a jug of chocolate RESPECT PROTEIN and their N-O product. I've been scanning their website latley. I "respect" companies that are'nt out to scam the 'newbies' money with misleading claims and 'before/after' shots. Thats why I could never bring myself to buy supps from a company that advertises heavily in magazines. To do that...it takes lots of money. To balance that revenue they have to cheapen and water-down their products. They have to cut corners then use psychology and well written claims to make you believe their product is all that. I think I'll stick w/ PRIDE. I got the impression they are passionate about their products and are out to simply give the consumers a choice. Go with the trendy heavily advertised companies...or go with no advertising, word-of-mouth only company that wont sell its soul or integrity for more coin.
I am actually getting ready for a show. It's in Ottawa, Illinois. It's the 'Mid-Illinois Classic'. I anticipate comming in on stage in the upper 220's. I feel pretty good. Thank God there's a gym next to the hotel I am staying at this weekend so I can stay on target. Where do you train at Jennifer? Are you a city girl or are you in suburbia?
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LOL....depends on what your view is of forms of payment.
If marketing yourself is, then yes I believe you will get non-directly paid.
Pat on the back, I can arrange something.
Feeling of gratitude for blessing us with your presence is good for the karma bank. ;)
Actually I just want a cookie:) But I can't have that since I am dieting so a hug would do...if you go to the Arnold that is....
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very cool about you doing the Ottowa show, Jeff Johnson is such a great guy and the show is wonderful, last year I met Ronnie and Lenda there, it was actually the first show I ever went to and it was awesome. Good luck and I will keep my eyes open for you.
As far as where I train, mainly in Schaumburg at Lifetime Fitness. I started going there 3 years ago and its ok but they don't really like the hardcore type. Every once in awhile (leg days) I will venture to another gym so I can use chalk and be loud and cause a commotion ;D
Yes, I have to say that I love all the things I am taking right now and I am leaning out pretty nicely given that I am doing no cardio. After the Arnold I will probably post some recent pics so you all can see the gains I made in the past year (I am proud of myself :)) Plus at that point I will be about 3 months out from Junior's and buckling down on everything. If you are going to try the NO product, also talk to them about C-Gone, the two work beautifully together and the pumps I get now are quite amazing. C-Gone helps utilize carbs and stabilize blood sugar.
Anyway...see you at the Arnold!
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You Are So Incredible!!!!! You should be the President of America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"...President of AMERICA!!!!" Now I would have almost caught the sarcasm or wit if he would have replaced 'AMERICA' with 'United States!!!'.
Wow! Okaaaaayyyy, Capt!
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"...President of AMERICA!!!!" Now I would have almost caught the sarcasm or wit if he would have replaced 'AMERICA' with 'United States!!!'.
Wow! Okaaaaayyyy, Capt!
you said you were a big guy, are you interested in smaller younger guys?
thank you!
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you said you were a big guy, are you interested in smaller younger guys?
thank you!
Wrong forum dumba**, go to the sex board. They might even think your comments are funny over there also. ::)
Keep your comments constructive or don't post anything at all........aight.
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Did not see you at the
gay pride booth sunday.
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Did not see you at the gay pride booth sunday.
Why does everything you say to me have so much negativity? You must be this horrible person and I am really not upset that I didn't meet you. I did get to meet many nice people from getbig...thanks so much for taking time to introduce yourselves and say hi.
Oh FYI-I had to leave the expo at about 3 to catch my flight and I got to eat lunch around 12, other then that I was there the whole day.
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Ok-well I didn't get any singular pictures of myself this weekend, though I think a few people will send me some. Here is a pic of three of us girls after dinner on Saturday night...
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Hey Jennifer!
TheBlockhead in the hizzzouusse! i'm doing what you reccomended to me at the ASC. 2 CGone with my first carb meal(Breakfast) 2-CGone with my preworkout meal and 2 with my POST workout meal. I usually need a few days to assess a supplement but I'll keep you posted. I tried PRIDE's 'Kryptonite' creatine formula...HOLY SCHNIKES! One drink it felt like a shot of Jack Daniels. It was powerful...then after that first swig...tasted like KoolAid.
You look scorching in the picture above...who's the one in the middle? Out of curiousity. I dont remember her at PRIDE's booth.
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Did not see you at the gay pride booth sunday.
If I were her I would be hiding from you to Bast....
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Hey Jennifer!
TheBlockhead in the hizzzouusse! i'm doing what you reccomended to me at the ASC. 2 CGone with my first carb meal(Breakfast) 2-CGone with my preworkout meal and 2 with my POST workout meal. I usually need a few days to assess a supplement but I'll keep you posted. I tried PRIDE's 'Kryptonite' creatine formula...HOLY SCHNIKES! One drink it felt like a shot of Jack Daniels. It was powerful...then after that first swig...tasted like KoolAid.
You look scorching in the picture above...who's the one in the middle? Out of curiousity. I dont remember her at PRIDE's booth.
It was good meeting you and definitely let me know how you like my suggestions, I think you will really like the Ammunition/C-Gone stack before your workout-it always gets me ready to kick some ass in the gym. I tried the Kryptonite for the first time also this weekend...just to see how it tasted-it is a bit of a shocker! Hey since you saw me, what do you think about me taking it for a few weeks (yes, no, wait until after Junior's to see what happens???)
Let me know what you think.
The girl in the middle wasn't with Pride, just a fellow competitor, Traci Redding. She is an awesome girl and has the most amazing abs...sometimes life just isn't fair ;)
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If I were her I would be hiding from you to Bast....
thanks for the tip, schmoe.
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Jennifer,
In regards to you using creatine to get ready for Jr.Nationals...
I say go ahead but go with half of the reccomended dosage. Use 1/2 scoop AFTER your weight training sessions ONLY. Pride's creatine wouldnt normally make you hold so much water or bloat you because of the types of creatine used so that'll be a plus for you. I would use it the whole pre-contest prep for Jr. Nationals. 1/2 scoop after your training sessions. That'll give you 3 grams after training. On the days you don't train...I reccomend not to use any at all. See what that does for you. Remember this...NO LOADING! Just 1/2 scoop after training sessions and you'll be money! 2-CGONE with carbmeal before w/ 2-3 AMMUNITIONs.
As you get closer to your show...let's say 10-14 days out...completley cut the creatine out of your program. Pride's KRYPTONITE should allow much bloating or water retention but for safe measure...cut it out 10-14 days out.
Make sure you make RESPECT protein and their EFA's as your staple. 1-RESPECT shake midday mixed w/ water w/ 2 EFA caps, another RESPECT shake after training 10 minutes AFTER you have your 1/2 serving of Krypto...make sure you have a little bit of a slow-burn carb like maybe 1/2 cup of oatmeal and half a banana(no efa's at this time) and right before bedtime...RESPECT shake with 2 EFA's.
You have great genetics. You already look like a pro. Come this June...take what is rightfully YOURS.
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Block- I thought I was the one giving the advice ;) You sound like a Pro now that you went to the Arnold, I am guessing you like the stuff you got.
You hit my basic routine on the head though and I can't tell you how much I appreciate the EFA's...I am really hoping they help me keep my muscle as I get leaner and leaner. I suppose adding the creatine now would be pretty easy and I can see how I go into my May show. If I need to tweak anything I will have a month before Juniors to do it.
Thanks for telling me how to take the creatine, I just never have before and I see people taking before their workouts...
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However much you take is up for debate (I think 5g's would be ok). But I strongly suggest splitting whatever that amount is in two dosages pre and post workout to maximize it's absorption. Thats what I've heard anyways, not like it works for me ;)
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GETBIGGER does make a good point here,
He suggest using a little PRE-workout. That's fine. If you want to try that then maybe go with 1/4 scoop before(which will give you 2 grams) and 1/2 scoop POST-workout. Remember, you are using it to keep muscle intact and keep them strong. You arent on a mission to so much GROW. You arent a BB-girl. Just don't LOAD and use it only on your weight training days(what is it...5 days a week?)
Since you are a PRIDE athlete i'm assuming you are going to be using all of their products so based on my study of their products this is what I also suggest to you...
On the days you perform early morning cardio which I'm guessing should be 2 or 3x's a week...pop a serving of DIALED-IN 15 minutes before cardio. I also suggest...a serving of GLUTAMINE(5 grams) and a serving or two of BCAA caps WITH the DIALED-IN before cardio. Know why? It will keep you from getting catabolic and keep your body to ever want to tap into muscle for fuel. I know you arent BB-ing but in a sense...you are. Your goal is to keep lean muscle and shed as much fat as possible. I wouldnt use any DIALED-In before training...why bother. Keep your body's receptors 'sensitive' to the effects of that product. Also...during pre-contest. Try to avoid caffeine products(coffee, DietCoke etc...) keep the body sensitive to 'DIALED-In'.
You should be using PRIDE's womens multi-vitamin(one w/ breakfast) As you get around the 6 week out mark, go with CONTROL before your usual afternoon meal and before your early evening meal. That'll help you w/ extra cravings and it will have a very mild diuretic effect since around that time...calories will be a little lower than usual and the urge for carbs or sweets and what not tends to be greater. I also suggest you look into their NPR. 2 in the evening. It'll help alleviate stress and keep your joints/tendons/ligaments healthy. It may seem like alot but you'll do it again and again it'll be like second-nature.
You told me your last outing at JR. NATIONALS you didnt use any supps at all...watch how good you will look when you DO...and do it right. It will be like NIGHT/DAY. Hope this helps...
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Looks a little like 'Jennifer-Love Huge-ti...Hewitt', doesnt she?
Her name is Susan Grosek(sp?) She's a figure/fitness girl from TX. One of PRIDE's athletes. Very nice, laid back girl. She's getting ready for Jr. Nationals in Chicago this June. Check her out on PRIDEs' website www.pridenutrition.com .
Jennifer looks hot there...she always does. That's nothing new.
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I WILL NEVER TRY STEROIDS OR ANY OTHER BANNED DRUG, I PLAN ON DOING A FEW NATURAL SHOWS...DOING STEROIDS WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO DO THESE SHOWS.
I AM A NATURAL COMPETITOR AND PLAN ON STAYING THIS WAY, IF I CHANGE MY MIND ON THIS I WILL START A THREAD SAYING I WANT TO DO DRUGS...PROBABLY IN THE STEROIDS SECTION AND NOT THE NATURAL BODYBUILDING SECTION
Hey Jen! First off, compliments on your physique. Looking great! Wanted to ask you though...How many comps have you done/attended? Or did I understand you correct that you are only thinking about entering your 1st show this year? I understand your passion about defending to stay natural as I am on the same path. However, I've competed with other girls and unfortunately even the Figure girls are on some sort of "supps". On top of that, I hear that there is no such thing anymore as being natural even when it comes to the Naturals. It is unfortunate but that's what BB has turned into. It is very discouraging to those of us who are so motivated and disciplined busting their ass in the gym to achieve something on our own...So I just hope that you look at it realistically because you will be most likely competing in very unfair shows. Make sure you understand that you are entering into something where your naturally beautiful physique will be overshadowed by those girls who are on gear. That's all politics which is so pathetic in this sport...
Best of luck to you in all of your future endeavors!
~FitChic78
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However, I've competed with other girls and unfortunately even the Figure girls are on some sort of "supps". On top of that, I hear that there is no such thing anymore as being natural even when it comes to the Naturals. It is unfortunate but that's what BB has turned into. It is very discouraging to those of us who are so motivated and disciplined busting their ass in the gym to achieve something on our own...So I just hope that you look at it realistically because you will be most likely competing in very unfair shows. Make sure you understand that you are entering into something where your naturally beautiful physique will be overshadowed by those girls who are on gear.
~FitChic78
Lets not use this board to talk about how unfair life is for natural bodybuilders. There are far to few of us as it is.
(http://www.efbbsouthcoast.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/img8667simonrobinson.jpg)
PS: I don't know if this guy is natural or not but at least I have two legs!
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Some figure girls look like Men. I think many are on some juice cuz their faces don't look feminine.
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Hey Jen! First off, compliments on your physique. Looking great! Wanted to ask you though...How many comps have you done/attended? Or did I understand you correct that you are only thinking about entering your 1st show this year? I understand your passion about defending to stay natural as I am on the same path. However, I've competed with other girls and unfortunately even the Figure girls are on some sort of "supps". On top of that, I hear that there is no such thing anymore as being natural even when it comes to the Naturals. It is unfortunate but that's what BB has turned into. It is very discouraging to those of us who are so motivated and disciplined busting their ass in the gym to achieve something on our own...So I just hope that you look at it realistically because you will be most likely competing in very unfair shows. Make sure you understand that you are entering into something where your naturally beautiful physique will be overshadowed by those girls who are on gear. That's all politics which is so pathetic in this sport...
Best of luck to you in all of your future endeavors!
~FitChic78
Thanks for the compliments!
Well, last year I competed in 4 shows (3 local, 1 national level) and even on the local level I heard rumors about what some of the girls were on. At first it really bothered me but if that is what these girls choose to do then who am I to be upset...I'm competing in the NPC where most of the shows are not tested, I suppose it is to be expected. Also, I think I am lucky because I have always been muscular and making gains hasn't been a problem. All the pics are from last year, I have always trained for something but never just focused on lifting. Going into my shows last year I only seriously trained 2 months before dieting, I knew I would be too small to compete Nationally but I wanted the experience. I took off 7 months and gained 25 pounds and lifted. If I go into my shows and am still not big enough this year I will give it another try.
When you say even the "naturals" aren't natural I wonder if you are talking about legal supplementation or hiding usage of illegal drugs. Last year I didn't take any supplements and dieting really stripped me of some of my muscle. When I realized how big the top girls were I knew I would need to supplement to compete. Now I take quite a few things (all legal) that I think have helped me put on some size, and hopefully will help me maintain it throughout my dieting.
Although it may be easier for girls on drugs to get bigger or leaner more easily, I think Figure is special because you don't have to take something to be competitive. In everything I do I always try to work harder then everyone else, this is no different, so if I can do it naturally it will make it that much sweeter for me. Don't get too discouraged about your competitors, do it for you and the rest will fall into place. Even if I never earn my pro card, the people I have meet and the knowledge I have gained through this journey have made it worthwhile.
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Some figure girls look like Men. I think many are on some juice cuz their faces don't look feminine.
Wow, very insightfull :D
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From the Arnold...thanks to Mike Bogen and Pride Nutrition
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53681.0;attach=68927;image)
That girl on the left looks familiar, who is that? Girl in then center is aight-little too much of a manly face for me, geez-whose that smoking chick on the right?
;D
Thanks:) Oh, and Block was almost right, she is a Fitness/Figure competitor-Susan Groshek. She is one of my closet friends in this crazy world of competing.
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OMG, that is crazy. I dunno if I could ever date a chick that could manhandle me...
;D
Don't worry help is at hand.... http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/ ;D
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Don't worry help is at hand.... http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/ ;D
is that the course you just finished ace???
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Jennifer,
FitChick makes a very serious and valid point. To compete at the highest levels and to place...people do what they have to do...even the figure/fitness girls.
Most people and especially women tend to have a weird stance on steroids. I feel ya on your position but let me just ASSUME and be so bold for a minute...if you use birth-control pills then guess what...you are using STEROIDS!!! Birth-Control Pills(nuva-ring etc...) ARE in fact without a shadow of doubt STEROIDS. Synthetic hormones used for a psyiological purpose. One may be to 'trick' the body into believing it's already pregnant from estrodiol balance...the other 'tricks' the body to believe it should be more anabolic(in a muscle building state).
Women are the biggest user of steroids in this country. Even teenage girls use STEROIDS for premiscious & recreational careless sex...why WOULDNT a highly competitive athlete competing at the highest level also use synthetic hormones to make them look better and recover from intense training more effectivley?
Now I know you have super-genetics and you are very driven...but do you ever kick the idea around of doing something mild or over-the counter? I know DHEA would probably have mild effect on women and I know it's a staple with fitness/figure girls. Your thoughts?
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Jennifer,
FitChick makes a very serious and valid point. To compete at the highest levels and to place...people do what they have to do...even the figure/fitness girls.
Most people and especially women tend to have a weird stance on steroids. I feel ya on your position but let me just ASSUME and be so bold for a minute...if you use birth-control pills then guess what...you are using STEROIDS!!! Birth-Control Pills(nuva-ring etc...) ARE in fact without a shadow of doubt STEROIDS. Synthetic hormones used for a psyiological purpose. One may be to 'trick' the body into believing it's already pregnant from estrodiol balance...the other 'tricks' the body to believe it should be more anabolic(in a muscle building state).
Women are the biggest user of steroids in this country. Even teenage girls use STEROIDS for premiscious & recreational careless sex...why WOULDNT a highly competitive athlete competing at the highest level also use synthetic hormones to make them look better and recover from intense training more effectivley?
Now I know you have super-genetics and you are very driven...but do you ever kick the idea around of doing something mild or over-the counter? I know DHEA would probably have mild effect on women and I know it's a staple with fitness/figure girls. Your thoughts?
I think because your form is, or should be, always improving you run the risk of over-accentuating aysemmetries and strong bodyparts with early steroid use. IMO that by itself is ample reason for a new figure competitor to avoid steroids early on. Then when your form does peak, it's fine.... Provided you can carry off a beard, bad skin and a receding hairline.
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Jennifer,
FitChick makes a very serious and valid point. To compete at the highest levels and to place...people do what they have to do...even the figure/fitness girls.
Some people do, yes even in figure but not me...I will work harder to achieve the same results and not complain.
Most people and especially women tend to have a weird stance on steroids. I feel ya on your position but let me just ASSUME and be so bold for a minute...if you use birth-control pills then guess what...you are using STEROIDS!!! Birth-Control Pills(nuva-ring etc...) ARE in fact without a shadow of doubt STEROIDS. Synthetic hormones used for a psyiological purpose. One may be to 'trick' the body into believing it's already pregnant from estrodiol balance...the other 'tricks' the body to believe it should be more anabolic(in a muscle building state).
Right but you are forgetting one major point...birth control is legal. Oh and birth control won't change my voice or face ;D
Women are the biggest user of steroids in this country. Even teenage girls use STEROIDS for premiscious & recreational careless sex...why WOULDNT a highly competitive athlete competing at the highest level also use synthetic hormones to make them look better and recover from intense training more effectivley?
To repeat my earlier comment, because steroids are illegal and in many sports it is considered cheating. If you are talking about competitive athletes taking steroids they get their Olympic medals taken away and are denied access to Hall's of Fame. Now, obviously steroids will be a part of the IFBB and I understand that, and I don't bash those who make the decision to use...I just don't want to be a part of that. Personally if I have to work harder to win a show than girls who do steroids so be it, I don't complain I just work even harder...and supplement naturally:)
Now I know you have super-genetics and you are very driven...but do you ever kick the idea around of doing something mild or over-the counter? I know DHEA would probably have mild effect on women and I know it's a staple with fitness/figure girls. Your thoughts?
Nope, never. (Plus what I have read about DHEA doesn't impress me) Oh, but I do take Advair...for my asthma.
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Jennifer,
FitChick makes a very serious and valid point. To compete at the highest levels and to place...people do what they have to do...even the figure/fitness girls.
Most people and especially women tend to have a weird stance on steroids. I feel ya on your position but let me just ASSUME and be so bold for a minute...if you use birth-control pills then guess what...you are using STEROIDS!!! Birth-Control Pills(nuva-ring etc...) ARE in fact without a shadow of doubt STEROIDS. Synthetic hormones used for a psyiological purpose. One may be to 'trick' the body into believing it's already pregnant from estrodiol balance...the other 'tricks' the body to believe it should be more anabolic(in a muscle building state).
Women are the biggest user of steroids in this country. Even teenage girls use STEROIDS for premiscious & recreational careless sex...why WOULDNT a highly competitive athlete competing at the highest level also use synthetic hormones to make them look better and recover from intense training more effectivley?
Now I know you have super-genetics and you are very driven...but do you ever kick the idea around of doing something mild or over-the counter? I know DHEA would probably have mild effect on women and I know it's a staple with fitness/figure girls. Your thoughts?
LMAO. Birth control pills don't turn you into a she-beast. Maybe you are into that? Anyway, it's a stupid comparison.
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That was a valid point. No, I dont like she-beasts. They're fine to TRAIN with but thats just plain weird if you ask me. Oh, quit it with the 'steroids are illegal' crap. When you were UNDER 21 I can bet my life you didnt tell your peers at the local highschool kegger 'Hey, wait...I can feel good at this party and have a good time without alcohol...besides gang, we are under 21 and it is ILLEGAL...lets have a good time naturally" Anabolic Steroids are only illegal because of misguided legislation and uninformed ignorant fat cats want to protect 'our children' in a country where alcohol/tobacco are legal. Amazing.
Let's stay on topic here...I respect your stance but you almost rubbed me as one of those 'holier than art thou' naturals. Just dont turn into one of those...natural competitors are the BIGGEST pricks I have ever met in the industry. They have this pompous 'I'm natural hear me roar I'm so much better I dont cheat' attitude. Hahaha...I went to this natural show in Illinois a couple years ago...and I struck up a conversation with this guy in the lobby...no big deal just chatting about where we're from, where we train...so I ask him his name and he goes...' So/So...ALL NATURAL!'...hahaha...he put that title in his name. I can't stand natty's who preach about cheating.
I just believe in 'never say never'. I remember once upon a time...in China, when I had that 'nope! not me! never! I dont need to cheat! they're bad for you!' stance. hahaha...now I scratch my head on why every athlete ALIVE dont use gear. Maybe I'm in too deep. Maybe the Dark Side of the Force has too much ahold of me. Bring me back, Jenny!!!
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She's got a monstrous nose, is that why she started working out?
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That's the dumbest shit I ever heard...to me and I think GETBIGGER will attest to this...there is nothing better than a woman with flaws. Real men like Real women.
Post a picture of yourself, MT...let's clean out your backyard! Even better...how about having the balls to get up on stage. Let's see a pic of your woman...if you even have one.
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She's got a monstrous nose, is that why she started working out?
Actually never heard that one before, never really liked the shape of my nose but I think it gives me a more unique look. Oh and no, I didn't start working out because of my nose I started working out because I am athletic, I like competing and it helped stregthen my lungs so my asthma improved and I wasn't always in the hospital.
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That was a valid point. No, I dont like she-beasts. They're fine to TRAIN with but thats just plain weird if you ask me. Oh, quit it with the 'steroids are illegal' crap. When you were UNDER 21 I can bet my life you didnt tell your peers at the local highschool kegger 'Hey, wait...I can feel good at this party and have a good time without alcohol...besides gang, we are under 21 and it is ILLEGAL...lets have a good time naturally" Anabolic Steroids are only illegal because of misguided legislation and uninformed ignorant fat cats want to protect 'our children' in a country where alcohol/tobacco are legal. Amazing.
Your right, when I was in high school I made poor decisions, now that I am an adult I try and make smarter decisions. I no longer drive when I have been drinking (which I rarely do), I do not use any illegal drugs of any sort, and I try to obey the laws. The things I do now will affect me as I get older and I like making the right choice, of course that doesn't always happen but I try and ask myself if my mother (or future children) would approve.
Let's stay on topic here...I respect your stance but you almost rubbed me as one of those 'holier than art thou' naturals. Just dont turn into one of those...natural competitors are the BIGGEST pricks I have ever met in the industry. They have this pompous 'I'm natural hear me roar I'm so much better I dont cheat' attitude. Hahaha...I went to this natural show in Illinois a couple years ago...and I struck up a conversation with this guy in the lobby...no big deal just chatting about where we're from, where we train...so I ask him his name and he goes...' So/So...ALL NATURAL!'...hahaha...he put that title in his name. I can't stand natty's who preach about cheating.
You started this by saying I was taking steroids if I take birth control. Never once before you started this discussion with me did I say I was better then any other bber, I just make different choices then some. Obviously in bbing the majority of people use steroids and it is not "cheating," they still compete and hold their titles. But you asked why every athlete doesn't use them, and I answered that in the majority of sports it is considered illegal. Even if steroids were legal I still would not want to take them, period. Also, you are starting to sound like one of those guys who puts down "natural" competitors for the pure fact that they choose to be natural. My friend, this is the Natural Board...you can bust on naturals acting holier than thou other places...but please not here. I am not throwing it in your face just answering your remarks. I could care less what choices you or other competitors make... I am worried about the choices I make and how to make myself better.
I just believe in 'never say never'. I remember once upon a time...in China, when I had that 'nope! not me! never! I dont need to cheat! they're bad for you!' stance. hahaha...
and I believe in standing by your convictions
now I scratch my head on why every athlete ALIVE dont use gear. Maybe I'm in too deep. Maybe the Dark Side of the Force has too much ahold of me. Bring me back, Jenny!!!
I guess I am amazed that you think so highly of steroids, like they are God's answer to our problems. Not that I have done extensive research but they seem to be kind of bad for you, your liver, your bodies natural balance and in females they start to change the essence of the woman. I have never looked down on anyone who has taken that path but I can see the changes in these amazing woman's faces and voices and in my opinion it is not worth it. But, for them it is and that is ok with me. The way you approach it is that I can't say anything negative about steroids or I am a "preaching natty" but you can bash naturals all day and question their beliefs (seems a little like those who push their religion to me)...you are contradicting yourself.
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I'm not looking down on "nattys"...I'm just stating in my opinion based on all my expierences in this industry. "Nattys" tend to have a superior attitude and HAVE to jam down everyones throat that they are 'natural'. Like I would put a title in my name when I shake another fellow BB's hand..."Hey, My name is The BlockHead...Jakked/Stakked/Fully Loaded to the gills, nice to meet you..." At shows that arent tested do you see us walking around with hats and t-shirts saying 'On 1,200mgs a Week!' or buttons saying...' I (heart) 23gauges! ' Nope!
AAS arent bad for you...they arent. In mega-dosages for long peroids of time there can be complications but thats with ANYTHING. Water can be bad for you, hell! I dont think AAS are 'Gods' answer to everything...let's keep God out of this. Since you bring it up...I do know steroids were created to BENEFIT mankind and serve a purpose. It is actual legitimate medicine. Do you drink? How many families and lives and careers and marriages destroyed from the 'pleasures' of alcohol? By the time I am done typing this...about 10 people in the U.S. died for reasons directly related to alcohol. It has a direct effect on your mind...it alters perception/judgement. Steroids make more amino acids assimilate into muscle. "Bad for you!". Hey, I read in the paper recently that a van full of people coming home from church last Sunday was T-Boned by a drunk driver and everyone died. Please...you live in suburbia...how many teeny-boppers get drunk and fall into lakes and drown or kill their friends in car wrecks do you read about in the local papers? I'll tell you what...when I open a paper and read about how this guy injected 200mg of test cyp and lost control of his vehicle and destoryed his life and anothers...I'll let someone tell me steroids are bad! Have you ever met anyone who after a few drinks get beligerent and become a straight up a$$hole? I never ever met any meathed who after a shot all a sudden start blurting out stupid things and get all rowdy and act like a damn fool. "Steroids are bad!".
Well, whatever. People do what they gotta do...people like to choose thier sin(s). Whattaya gonna do, you know? Let's change the topic before I get on your shit list. Let's talk about a rumor I heard...
Are you doing the Illinois State Show? I think it would be a good 'fluffer' show before the Jr. Nationals...stiffer competition, more stage presence/expierence...do you think you can peak twice or will you just peak for Jr. Nationals and come in as-is for The Illinois?
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Alcohol is legal, so is water. Steriods are not. It's as simple as that. People who are Natty's that get great results (such as Jennifer) without the help of illegal drugs should be more grateful and proud of their achievements.
The reasons and choices she makes is her business and not yours. Was she not correct when she stated that steriod users are cheating? Whats false about that? You can either get defensive about it (in that case go elsewhere), or you can just accept her opinion.
What she is "jamming down your throat" is nothing other than she will not take steriods.
I wouldn't wanna be on her s**tlist either, trust me, been there. It's not pleasant.....
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No, GETBIGGER...you never REALLY been on her sh-tlist. I HAVE. I have a one-up on you with this one...
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I wouldn't wanna be on her s**tlist either, trust me, been there. It's not pleasant.....
:'( waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa www
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No, GETBIGGER...you never REALLY been on her sh-tlist. I HAVE. I have a one-up on you with this one...trust me on this one, slick...Jennifer and I have 'broken up' before so eat that apple!
Brother, you of all people who've been around in this industry should know using 'gear' isnt cheating. Why is there this big tug-o-war of naturals vs unnaturals...why is there even a 'Natural' board? Why cant we all just get along?
I'm not leaving this thread either...dont boot me out cuz that would be yellow of you...hahaha..."yellow". So step off and kiss my grits...Ya, heard!
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:'( waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa www
Oh your just sad because you are still on my s***list...although your last post in one of my other threads was actually not mean-spirited, I am impressed Bast.
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Before we go around in a circle Block...I am not comparing alcohol to steroids, you are...I am not saying one is better then the other, I am just saying I don't want to do it(for about the hundredth time :)) and that in the majority of sports it is considered illegal, as tough as this little fact may be for you to handle. Really the only time I say I am natural is after someone accuses me of being on stuff. Especially when I start cutting I get comments ALL the time. At times it is flattering but when they won't drop it, it gets on my nerves.
I guess people can't keep their mouths shut...I have been toying with the idea of doing that show. I have a smaller one (NGA-a NATURAL federation ;)) 2 weeks before but I have been told to get in front of the NPC judges before Jr's. It just seems like if I don't do well it will mentally affect me going into Jr's...but the more I get on stage hopefully the more confidence I will build. Also I have like 5 girls that I have been helping out doing that show so it seems like a conflict of interests.
Would I try and peak...another hard question because I would hate getting on stage without my best package. I brought a much different package to the show last year so it would be interesting to see where I placed....as you can see I have been struggling with this decision. Any comments???
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Hey Jenn! Good luck with your competitive pursuits. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Stay true to yourself.
Lori
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Oh your just sad because you are still on my s***list...although your last post in one of my other threads was actually not mean-spirited, I am impressed Bast.
I'm growing on you. ;D
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I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE BLOCKHEAD ON THIS ONE. NATURALS WHO DON'T USE GEAR ARE SIMPLY AFRAID. THAT IS ALL.
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AND JEN, HOW DO I GET AN AUTOGRAHPED 8 X 10 OF YOU WITHOUT HAVING TO BUY A PRIDE NUTRITION STACK.
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I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE BLOCKHEAD ON THIS ONE. NATURALS WHO DON'T USE GEAR ARE SIMPLY AFRAID. THAT IS ALL.
I think people who use steroids are the ones that are afraid.
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I think people who use steroids are the ones that are afraid.
Awwww, even helping defend me now, I feel honored Bast.
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Hey Jenn! Good luck with your competitive pursuits. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Stay true to yourself.
Lori
Thanks, I checked out your website but couldn't find a picture of you-I'll keep trying though. I appreciate the compliments and the luck!
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Awwww, even helping defend me now, I feel honored Bast.
Well I don't use drugs myself. It's funny when a guy who's using drugs because he feels small claims that guys who don't use the same drugs are afraid.. hahaha. what sense does that make?
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AND JEN, HOW DO I GET AN AUTOGRAHPED 8 X 10 OF YOU WITHOUT HAVING TO BUY A PRIDE NUTRITION STACK.
Shmallow....you are such a little antagonist, trying to rile me up with your silly little comments. What is sad is that I am natural, 30 pounds less then you (and a girl) and our leg day lifts are basically the same. You need to grow a pair marshy and start training seriously.
As far as a picture, well you can buy one ($15) but I think I owe you. I'll have stuff at the Ottawa show...or we could get one together at the Chicago show...
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Well I don't use drugs myself. It's funny when a guy who's using drugs because he feels small claims that guys who don't use the same drugs are afraid.. hahaha. what sense does that make?
He's just messing with us...he lives by me and I give him sh** because I am tougher then him and all the guys he lifts with
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No, GETBIGGER...you never REALLY been on her sh-tlist. I HAVE. I have a one-up on you with this one...trust me on this one, slick...Jennifer and I have 'broken up' before so eat that apple!
Brother, you of all people who've been around in this industry should know using 'gear' isnt cheating. Why is there this big tug-o-war of naturals vs unnaturals...why is there even a 'Natural' board? Why cant we all just get along?
I'm not leaving this thread either...dont boot me out cuz that would be yellow of you...hahaha..."yellow". So step off and kiss my grits...Ya, heard!
First point is it is illegal. So how can something thats illegal to use in the US by a federal law be approved and fair game by some private organization. I will give you one point, it's not "cheating" in bodybuilding in a SMALL sense simply because everyone does it and the organization doesn't have enough balls to do drug tests because it will ruin the sport-which I don't want to happen I will admit, but in every other sport it is cheating.
Second point, I never threatened to ban you, just suggested that you go elsewhere since you don't seem to get along with anybody in this forum....."slick".
Third point. There is a steroid forum for people of similar interests and to share information and support each other about the topic, why not for natty's? The tug of war is because of people like you or overreact about someones opinion and the choices they make and get defensive about it.
Third point....get some maturity and stop the name calling......"duhhahaha".....you think that gets under my skin? Come work with me on a weekend for a couple months.....see what kinda "grits" you have.
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not to get in the middle of you two but what does "yellow" mean?
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Jen,
"yellow" means like...'cowardly'. I dont know why that came to mind.
GetBigger...it isnt ruining the sport. This website is probably alive/well because of The Freaks. The whole BB industry thrive off of the backs of the FREAKS...it's called 'freakonomics'.
I get defensive because I like to argue. Who dont I get along with besides you? If you say Jennifer, herself then you'd be wrong again. Did you say come work with you for weekends? Like at your office or something? Elaborate that one, chief!
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DAMN JEN! HEY WAIT A MINUTE...THAT WAS SKINNY ASS FRANK WHO COULDN'T LIFT AS HEAVY AS YOU. YOU ARE STRONG AS ALL HELL THOUGH. ALMOST AS STRONG AS ME.
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Thanks, I checked out your website but couldn't find a picture of you-I'll keep trying though. I appreciate the compliments and the luck!
Look under the bodybuilder's section....USA. Thanks and take care!
Lori
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Jen,
"yellow" means like...'cowardly'. I dont know why that came to mind.
GetBigger...it isnt ruining the sport. This website is probably alive/well because of The Freaks. The whole BB industry thrive off of the backs of the FREAKS...it's called 'freakonomics'.
I get defensive because I like to argue. Who dont I get along with besides you? If you say Jennifer, herself then you'd be wrong again. Did you say come work with you for weekends? Like at your office or something? Elaborate that one, chief!
I didn't say it was ruining the sport "chief", I said if they tested to find ILLEGAL substances there wouldn't be monster freaks so BY them testing for ILLEGAL substances that would ruin the sport......which I don't want to happen as much as you do. I just want you to repect others opinions whether you agree with them or not.......its that easy.
My point is on the weekends being called names is the least of my worries......let alone over the internet.
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I'm not looking down on "nattys"...I'm just stating in my opinion based on all my expierences in this industry. "Nattys" tend to have a superior attitude and HAVE to jam down everyones throat that they are 'natural'. Like I would put a title in my name when I shake another fellow BB's hand..."Hey, My name is The BlockHead...Jakked/Stakked/Fully Loaded to the gills, nice to meet you..." At shows that arent tested do you see us walking around with hats and t-shirts saying 'On 1,200mgs a Week!' or buttons saying...' I (heart) 23gauges! ' Nope!
Yeah some hardcore roiders do like to shout about their roid use, and how hard core they are, not you? Funny because I could've sworn thats what you just did.I mean posting that you are a gear user on this here natty forum? Sounds like you want us to know you're on gear. Doesn't that make sense? Also I think you feel superior to nattys because you basically just slagged us all and then said you and you're steroid buds don't have the same issues you think we do. Am I right? YES I AM
of time there can be complications but thats with ANYTHING. Water can be bad for you, hell! I dont think AAS are 'Gods' answer to everything...let's keep God out of this. Since you bring it up...I do know steroids were created to BENEFIT mankind and serve a purpose. It is actual legitimate medicine. Do you drink? How many families and lives and careers and marriages destroyed from the 'pleasures' of alcohol? By the time I am done typing this...about 10 people in the U.S. died for reasons directly related to alcohol. It has a direct effect on your mind...it alters perception/judgement.
Thats really interesting, I'm sure you've given some people plenty to think about, myself I don't actually drink alchohol.
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ACE,
It all started cuz someone pointed out that Jennifer is going to be going against girls who use gear...I pointed out maybe she should look at her stance on gear differently. It seemed to me Jennifer has a 'hell no never me' attitude about gear for the simple misconception that they are 'bad for you' so I illustrated for her another way to view it by pointing out she already does use synthetic hormones...she probably thinks alcohol consumption is 100% perfectly normal and OK and that AAS are only illegal because of misguided legislation when AAS should NOT be illegal. Tobacco/Booze should be way before Deca should...please!
I just tried to make her look at things differently. Jennifer pointed out that she doesnt want to try gear because she'd rather know personally she did it 100% without any artificial help for personal satisfaction reasons and I'm okay with that. I also pointed out that I thought she was leaning towards being a typical 'natty' with a 'I dont cheat...I'm clean' attitude. I told her to stay COOL and be real. She cleared it up for me. Me and her are good.
I admit...alot of people I know who use gear...like to brag about it. The ironic thing is...they are the ones who dont even train legs...or back...or would NEVER EVER get on stage...just inject everything under the sun to work chest/arms only. Real nuccas like me dont let that info out too willingly(in the real world). I wear it on my sleeve. People in the know...know. Still...never have I seen guys in the gym or at shows who DO use wear a shirt that says...' Dianabol: Breakfast of Champions ' or a hat that says ' Natural Sucks!'. I do see people wearing '100% Natural!' shirts or ' Drug-Free and Proud ' shirts. hahaha...I get a kick out of them. Whatever, to each their own.
GETBIGGER...I'm not calling you anything besides 'ace' or 'slick'...chill out, pal. Jennifer isnt impressed. I know you have this urge to 'protect' her but eh...she isnt going to ever ever PM you and leave you her number and you two will never ever like...run off and live happily ever after. Just wont happen, nephew...you dont stand a chance. You're just a moderator on a forum in cyberspace to her. Know what I mean?
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GETBIGGER...I'm not calling you anything besides 'ace' or 'slick'...chill out, pal. Jennifer isnt impressed. I know you have this urge to 'protect' her but eh...she isnt going to ever ever PM you and leave you her number and you two will never ever like...run off and live happily ever after. Just wont happen, nephew...you dont stand a chance. You're just a moderator on a forum in cyberspace to her. Know what I mean?
hahahaha
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I have a question;
Do you do anal?
i do but only with musclebears
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Ok, I am not going down the whole natural vs. drug thing again, I am pretty sure you all know my stance.
As far as me and getbigger, I think you are judging him too fast. He has been very nice to me and we have become friends. No it's not like we are going to run off together...my boyfriend wouldn't appreciate that, but he has been a genuine guy. Why don't you boy's just play nice?
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She's got a monstrous nose, is that why she started working out?
I have a question;
do you do anal?
What is your issue? Are you so lonely and pathetic that you have to make negative and derogatory comments towards me to make yourself feel better? I could understand (and appreciate) constructive criticism or respectful arguments, but these pathetic comments you are making show your ignorance and cowardliness as well as your complete lack of respect for females.
get a life and get off my thread
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Look under the bodybuilder's section....USA. Thanks and take care!
Lori
Wow! You look amazing and your conditioning is perfect. Congratulations and good luck with your training. When is you next show?
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Hey Jennifer! Way to go...don't take their shit. You're too good for that...ya, heard!
Let me clear something up with you about my feud w/ GETBIGGER. It breaks down like this...we're just a couple guys trying to pull rank and express who's the alpha male in front of you thats all...its' evolution. It's natural(no pun intended). No different than a couple Rams smashing their heads together to see which one backs off first to gain the 'pick' of the female Ram. It's all very biological!
Now let me move onto GETBIGGER himself...
Hahahaha! Player? You did it to yourself. You my brother just dug your own grave...you didnt shoot yourself in the foot...you blew your whole leg off. If you dont see it then I dont know what els to say...you are now OFFICIALLY in a cemetary of forgotten men who will NEVER EEEVER (being respectful to Jennifer) 'get with her'. She called you a FRIEND! You hear that...a FRIEND! Not only that...she said 'Good Friends'. That's even worse. If you know anything about women you know a 'FRIEND' is the WORST thing to be called by them. I would faint if I heard a woman refer to me as a 'FRIEND'. If someone told me they were talking to Jennifer and she went 'Oh, yea...TheBlockHead is a real sweetheart...what a nice guy...he's a friend of mine!'. I...I would have a coronary. I'd have a seizure right there. You lost this one bro...you are a 'friend' to her. You will NOW never have a shot at that title...if you know what I mean.
No woman walking planet Earth really REALLY respect a man they consider a 'friend'. If you really know thing one about a woman...you'd rather have her think you're nothing but a ba$tard or a real prick. That way...deep down they respect you and are excited by you. That isnt my opinion...thats a law of physics right there. More consistant than gravity.
"...GETBIGGER is my FRIEND...we're really good FRIENDS!" OUCH!!!!!!
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Thanks for the compliments!
Well, last year I competed in 4 shows (3 local, 1 national level) and even on the local level I heard rumors about what some of the girls were on. At first it really bothered me but if that is what these girls choose to do then who am I to be upset...
Hey Jen! So how did you do in those? What were the jugdes saying as to why they gave you that placing? What was the major point they said you would need to improve on?
When you say even the "naturals" aren't natural I wonder if you are talking about legal supplementation or hiding usage of illegal drugs. Last year I didn't take any supplements and dieting really stripped me of some of my muscle. When I realized how big the top girls were I knew I would need to supplement to compete. Now I take quite a few things (all legal) that I think have helped me put on some size, and hopefully will help me maintain it throughout my dieting.
By natural I mean no AAS. I personally don't think that if you take supplements like Glut, BCAA's and creatine you are by no means not a natural athlete. Those substances are naturally in your body, so I do not see how adding extra of what's already naturally existent in you bands you from being natural...You said it yourself that you had realized that you had to add it to your routine if you wanted to preserve the muscle size you worked so hard for. To me it seems that you are stuck on that "legal/illegal" substances mentality. I read this thread and debates that are going on between you, Block and a few others and see that both advocates and opponents have their valid points. I have to agree with Block that drugs that many in this sport use essentually were legal and only had to be banded later due to people abusing them. GH is prescribed in medicine for people with immune system problems so is Clen and insulin and so forth. People who have AIDS are put on some of the drugs that BB's use. So this issue is a two way sword I guess. It's like Block tried to compare the usage of gear to smocking and alcohol or even water. It is a matter of perception and what in one's opinions is good or bad.
If I go into my shows and am still not big enough this year I will give it another try.
So let me understand better...What is your ultimate goal? Do you have it? Or is it just something like I train for myself and enter a show here and there just for fun? It's just when I first posted and said that I hope you see things realistically, I meant that it is one thing if you just do it coz you have a personal goal of say improving your physique and getting to the next level and by compiting you can actually assess your accomplishments.
Although it may be easier for girls on drugs to get bigger or leaner more easily, I think Figure is special because you don't have to take something to be competitive.
Not so...If you do it for you, then sure you dont' have to and that is why you can see so many gorgeous guys and girl in many local gyms who have great physiques yet they have never competed coz they know what the real world of BB is all about and despite the fact that they do look far better then an avarage Joe, that is not enough to be the winner...But if you want to be the next Monica Brant, then you would be doomed to re-assess your view on things. No, it does not have to be serious stuff but you would not ever get to that level without implemention of some sort of aid that you seem to not even want to consider to be a part of your routine. That's just a reality, unfortunately...I know gals who claim to the outsiders that they are 100% naturals but then people who are very close to them know that is not the case...
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Well said, FITCHIC...bravo! That is EXACTLY what I was trying to illustrate. You hit the nail on the head...I was trying to illustrate that if Jennifer doesnt want to use pharmecological sports technology because it is ILLEGAL then she really needs to re-consider due to the fact that it was once LEGAL and is NOT NOW because of misguided legislation and uninformed fat-cats in the pockets of major lobbyists trying to protect 'the children.' Get of that 'I dont break the law' nonsense. Puhleeeese!
Here's the thing, FITCHIC...Jennifer has only been in this game/industry for relativley very little time. I know she's very passionate about what she does and her goals in this game are realistic and sensible. When she competed in local NPC shows and national level in Illinois...she will admit this...she publicly told certain people...'I don't believe in supplements! I dont use them...you dont NEED them!' Now she does...I know because I help her with her supplement outlines from time to time. Now she uses protein powders...carbohydrate utilization formulas, creatine/glutamine, No2 products etc...see my point? It took her about a year but from the ' No way will I ever use a protein drink and all that is a waste of money...I dont believe in that crap' to..."Hmmm...so i'll take 3 grams of creatine pre-workout...2 grams post then have 47 grams of whey with complex carbs...use the vanadyl sulfate to balance my blood sugars...okay, then I'll have 2000mg of arginine at bedtime and use this pre-workout...then midday I'll have..." You get my drift.
It is because barriers were broken down and she has this awful tendency to WANT to be the opposite of everyone els and do EVERYTHING her way or the hardest way because it somehow gives her a level of satisfaction knowing she set out to prove 'everyone' wrong. She's like that...it's like her against 'the system'. Her against 'the standard'. I'm not saying its a bad thing but thats just her personality.
All I say to Jennifer and God knows I luv her to death...I have her first 8x10 autograph hanging in my gym on the S.S/Chicago...I was there when she squatted 315lbs for reps for the first time...and I helped her push 800+lbs on the leg press for reps...in otherwords, I have her back...we're tight! I'm saying 'never say never'. It's good to stick to guns and not give in. I admire her for that but I think she is just really really UNINFORMED about AAS and all her opinions and mindset about AAS has no merit or basis.
Kind of like when my in-laws see me mix a protein shake and drink it...I get 'Thats bad for you...I heard that stuff you get at GNC will make your d-ck shrink and you can die!' as they puff on their cigarette and open a bag od Dorritos up and crack open another BudLite. Or here we go...hahahaha...Jennifer is Irish and so are my in-laws so maybe this will illustrate the 'duh-ness' of her stance on AAS as a national level figure athlete...
I heard my in-laws and wife freaking out because St Patty's day fell on a Friday...well, during lent Catholics cant eat meat on Fridays...everyone was having St Patty's day parties and having...Cornbeef meals. Everyone was like...'OMG, what are we gonna do...maybe we'll have the dinner this day...celebrate that day...' all collaborating on how to handle 'not sinning' on Friday because of consuming meat and I ask...why the FK do they care???? Not one of them EVER go to church...ALL of them are pure racist/prejudice idots...all drink like fishes smoke like chimneys...all of them are divorced...swear like truckers...but...hahaha. ..let's not eat cornbeef on Friday...thats BAD!
See how people pick and choose their posion? I know FITCHIC will see how I'm trying to illustrate my moral here even in my bizarre way...Jennifer might get defensive and GETBIGGER...well, I dont know...he now knows what it means to be called a 'FRIEND' by a woman so he knows he stands NO CHANCE w/ Jennifer sooooo....you might see GETBIGGER talking trash to her or taking my side now...hahahaha!
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Hey Jen! So how did you do in those? What were the judges saying as to why they gave you that placing? What was the major point they said you would need to improve on?
My first show I got second, my second show I got third and my third show I got 1st and won the overall. (Junior Nationals I didn't place but wasn't surprised...I didn't have the size going into it but I wanted the experience for this year). Why did I place where I did...the first show I lost to the winner by one point, she took the overall. I think a major part of me not placing was my posing which was TERRIBLE, also through all my shows I was too thin, I needed more size. Going into these shows I figured I may have a problem because I had run a marathon in June the year before and continued marathon training until October when my boyfriend finished his first. Going through the training I lifted maybe 2 times a week, with little effort, and spent hours a day running...it ate away all the muscle I had left over from collegiate track. Anyway I started training with weights at the end of November and in December decided to do a show...this gave me about 2 months to put on size until I had to start dieting. All in all there was no way I had the time to put on the size to be competitive at any level other then the local level.
The judges in some of these shows said "don't change anything, I had you as #1" others told me I "had a boyish figure, I wasn't curvy enough, and to work on my sweep" after Jr. Nationals I emailed the head judge numerous times....unfortunately she is quite busy but her only response was that she had written one word "thin" for me and couldn't remember further then that. Obviously she couldn't-it was the first time seeing me and I wasn't special, I still wasn't posing properly in Jr. Nationals (I am embarrassed by it) also I needed more muscle. My conditioning was fine (8% bodyfat) but my legs were too small and I wasn't showcasing my physique.
To help all of this I put on 25 pounds and hope to compete about 5-7 pounds heavier this year. I worked my ass on :) because the marathon had robbed me of it. Starting almost 3 months ago now I have setup posing sessions at least twice a month with other local competitors (many first timers because I don't want them to look like I did) so we can work on posing and walking.
Currently I am 7 weeks out from my first show, my warm-up and I am at 11% bodyfat and looking sharp. I have done it smarter this year, slower and more steady. It should be an incredible year on stage.
To me it seems that you are stuck on that "legal/illegal" substances mentality. I read this thread and debates that are going on between you, Block and a few others and see that both advocates and opponents have their valid points. I have to agree with Block that drugs that many in this sport use essentially were legal and only had to be banded later due to people abusing them. GH is prescribed in medicine for people with immune system problems so is Clen and insulin and so forth. People who have AIDS are put on some of the drugs that BB's use. So this issue is a two way sword I guess. It's like Block tried to compare the usage of gear to smocking and alcohol or even water. It is a matter of perception and what in one's opinions is good or bad.
But this is the thing, I don't have AID's or any disease that would require me to use these to feel better. I don't understand why my choice of mot wanting to use AAS makes you guys so mad. If you want to use it I will not judge or criticize...when I am squatting I have images of girls on stage, bigger then me, more cut and it makes me work harder, it isn't about short cuts with me, it is about doing things that I want to do and being responsible for the outcome. Honestly if they legalized AAS I still wouldn't want to take it, I feel it changes your appearance and voice and really I don't need it to get bigger...I am already a fairly big girl.
So let me understand better...What is your ultimate goal? Do you have it? Or is it just something like I train for myself and enter a show here and there just for fun?
My goal is to earn my Pro-Card, to get invited to the Arnold. To me competing is fun and winning is fun. I like seeing how I can shape my body into something I think is amazing. Do many of my friends think my body is gross, yep but I do it because I am good at it, I love it and I love to compete and be on stage. That is why I don't run marathons or triathlons, I would never win. Training and dieting this hard isn't something I do because the process is "fun" the outcome is fun. Plus doing something that 99.9% of people can't do is fun.
It's just when I first posted and said that I hope you see things realistically, I meant that it is one thing if you just do it coz you have a personal goal of say improving your physique and getting to the next level and by competing you can actually assess your accomplishments.
Not so...If you do it for you, then sure you dont' have to and that is why you can see so many gorgeous guys and girl in many local gyms who have great physiques yet they have never competed coz they know what the real world of BB is all about and despite the fact that they do look far better then an average Joe, that is not enough to be the winner...But if you want to be the next Monica Brant, then you would be doomed to re-assess your view on things. No, it does not have to be serious stuff but you would not ever get to that level without implemention of some sort of aid that you seem to not even want to consider to be a part of your routine. That's just a reality, unfortunately...I know gals who claim to the outsiders that they are 100% naturals but then people who are very close to them know that is not the case...
I think it is sad you feel this way. The only way to do it is by doing drugs.....that sounds like a losing attitude to me. To be, as you say "realistic" it would probably do me well to get with the "right" trainer or maybe even sleep with the "right" person, talk to the "right" management company, do the "right" drugs and then I will succeed...well, maybe I am just making it easier for the rest of the world (you included) by making the decisions I think are right. If you see me earn my Pro-Card please know it was because of the hard work, sweat, and determination of a "natural" competitor, then you can finally tell people you know someone who is 100% natural who "made it" and drugs aren't the only way.
Whatever decisions you decide to make in this sport, I wish you the best of luck. I also hope you make the decisions for yourself because you feel it is the right thing to do and not because everyone else is doing it.
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ok, fitchic so which is it, drugs are good or bad???? Just found this on another thread....
GH, you are right, the usages of drugs in BB today is widely practiced. This is what is so sad. Any sport, no matter what type of a recreational activity, is supposedly something that should be beneficial to your health. BB, in particular, is about building a beautiful physique which unfortunatelly is often done with a help of drugs. Go figure...It is the most paradoxical sports out there today if you really stop for a second and think about what it has turned into...
Funny how you generalize people by using "we". Obviuosly you could not wait long enough, doubt it was 5 years for you, before jumping on gear. But here is a little bit of truth for you. Not all do. I know from first hand experience because I had dated a guy who had an awesome physique and had never touched any of that shit. Now, I know that for a fact coz we were together pretty much 24/7, lived together, trained together, everything for 2 years and I would notice if any of that stuff was floating around. People would stop him on numerous occassions and ask if he was competing coz he looked that good and then tried to pursuade him to go and compete when he would say he did not. Sure, it took him many years to accomplish a look that a lot of people would turn their head to admire but he did it on his own and that what was so much more rewarding in the end. Just to give you an example, that some do look like they are on something without ever touching any gear. He could easily compete and I would bet everything he had a good shot at being successful in the sport. But he didn't do it for that simple reason that he didn't want to jeopardize his principles, getting on gear, having a brutal schedule, resticting his life style, and everything else that comes with prepping for a comp. He simply loved to train, bodybuild and see what improvements he could make over time. With all that comes when you are trying to get to the pro level, some of that pure enjoyment is taken away. So no, I don't think everyone gets on gear sooner or later. It is those who don't possess the ability to see what they can do beyond what is "known" one can achieve. You say you train and after a while you hit a point where you have completely realized your natural potential and so the next step is to incorporate an outside sources to help you get to the next level. Well, my question to you, how do you know what that limit is? You are not what you think you are, but what you think, you are. You don't believe what you see. You see what you already believe. So you and the rest that you claim go on gear simply are weak, more mentally then physically, which is so more sad. You look for a quick way out and something to get you fast results. The thing is once you get it, you want more and then some, which is obviuosly why in your case, and as Richard pointed out, you have to be on your 7 injections a day. Pathetic. That also proves my point that there is no limit and we as humans will always seek for something to fullfil that desire of improving upon our current accomplishments.
As for the hormones...Well, if you know enough about it and how it works, then you should be able to distinguish those who are on them and those who are not. Speaking in particular of GH, that's why you see all the bloated stomachs up on stage these days. If you compare many of the guys from a few years back, you can't miss to see the physiological changes their physiques have experienced over years of time. That's why it is called Growth hormone. You take it and everything grows, not just muscles, your joints, your jaw and your organs. Some pros today don't have those characteristical mutations even after years of training. You know, with more advocates, just like yourself, of using drugs as if it was an absolute necessity, it is not surprising that it's getting out of hand. I may be a fairly new kid on the block when it comes to the sport, but I have been around for a few years and with all of the pressure of unfair competition, trust me, I have considered getting on gear myself. However, I've decided not to do it. The more I talk to people who are on it or read posts like yours, I realize that I am better off without all that chemical stuff in my body even though I am considering competing later on again and knowing that I am going to enter an unfair game competing with those who are all "juiced up". But at least I save myself a headache of worring that one day I may repeat the case of Flex...Good luck to you with everything though, GH!
Did I miss something?
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Block I can't even deal with you tonight....I'll deal with you tomorrow my FRIEND...
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Hey Jennifer! Way to go...don't take their shit. You're too good for that...ya, heard!
Let me clear something up with you about my feud w/ GETBIGGER. It breaks down like this...we're just a couple guys trying to pull rank and express who's the alpha male in front of you thats all...its' evolution. It's natural(no pun intended). No different than a couple Rams smashing their heads together to see which one backs off first to gain the 'pick' of the female Ram. It's all very biological!
Now let me move onto GETBIGGER himself...
Hahahaha! Player? You did it to yourself. You my brother just dug your own grave...you didnt shoot yourself in the foot...you blew your whole leg off. If you dont see it then I dont know what els to say...you are now OFFICIALLY in a cemetary of forgotten men who will NEVER EEEVER (being respectful to Jennifer) 'get with her'. She called you a FRIEND! You hear that...a FRIEND! Not only that...she said 'Good Friends'. That's even worse. If you know anything about women you know a 'FRIEND' is the WORST thing to be called by them. I would faint if I heard a woman refer to me as a 'FRIEND'. If someone told me they were talking to Jennifer and she went 'Oh, yea...TheBlockHead is a real sweetheart...what a nice guy...he's a friend of mine!'. I...I would have a coronary. I'd have a seizure right there. You lost this one bro...you are a 'friend' to her. You will NOW never have a shot at that title...if you know what I mean.
No woman walking planet Earth really REALLY respect a man they consider a 'friend'. If you really know thing one about a woman...you'd rather have her think you're nothing but a ba$tard or a real prick. That way...deep down they respect you and are excited by you. That isnt my opinion...thats a law of physics right there. More consistant than gravity.
"...GETBIGGER is my FRIEND...we're really good FRIENDS!" OUCH!!!!!!
OK, this is where we are crossed my favorite friend on GetBig. Lets get things clear. I really don't give a flying f**k about you or anything you say. I have absolutely nothing to prove here on GetBig, let alone to some guy named "blockhead" who I don't even know. Don't flatter yourself, we are not in competition, we are not butting heads, we are not-WAIT, I am wrong I should be saying I AM NOT.....so I am not out to play these stupid games you obviously get worked up playing.
My whole point to you has never changed this entire time. Respect others opinions and choices and why they make their choices. Thats the precedent that has been set, maybe you should reread the "Natty Board" thread, here it is...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=53517.0
Because if you don't, we WILL have problems, we will smash heads and I am certain I will come out on top. Any other beef you have with me, I really don't give a s**t. I barely have enough time to moderate this board, let a lone to argue over "who is the alpha male" over the internet.....LOL
You know, I won't even give the chance for an arguement. You know what? YOU WIN blockhead! YOU ARE THE ALPHA MALE!. You are the s**t. You are "Jenns biological pick". Congrats! You da MAN! Damn, what was I thinking f**king with you......
You keep your criticism constructive or I will ban your a**. It's that simple.
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I have a question;
Do you do anal?
i do but only with musclebears
That s**t belongs on the sex board, so take it there....I'm sure you will find some of your musclebears there also.......
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TheBlockHead is in the hizouuuuuuuussse!
Sup Jen...you gonna deal with me today, dear? I'm not mad because you dont use gear...I just dont like when people say they are bad. You're right...YOU of all women dont need them...you are already a genetic freak of the week...I was afraid to have you use more than 1/2 a serving of creatine...I can imagine if you used a little var' or strol'...you'd blow up like a balloon. I think it's a little more 'acceptable' with men using it anyway...doesnt effect us like it can with women. We talked about this before...take a look at Sarah D. She's a BB girl and she was GORGEOUS before the gear got the best of her...now she's starting to get a tad on the beastly side.
I think we should change the topic here...it's just too hard to talk about being 'natural' all day on a Natural thread. It's good to debate. It generates thought and interest. Let's talk about why you dont TAN or use TANNING beds.
I have to keep comments constructive. I dont ask you if you do deviant s-x acts or blatantly pick apart a bodypart and try to make you feel bad...I just debate about gear and doing what it takes to compete. I just try to generate talk and generate thought. I might get banned though (it got personal...I hit a nerve with a certain somebody).
On a positive note, Jen...I won, I guess! Oh...dont publically call me 'FRIEND'. I'd rather get my b@lls smased by a wodden hammer than have a woman consider me a FRIEND. hahaha...'a friend!'
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she has this awful tendency to WANT to be the opposite of everyone els and do EVERYTHING her way or the hardest way because it somehow gives her a level of satisfaction knowing she set out to prove 'everyone' wrong. She's like that...it's like her against 'the system'. Her against 'the standard'. I'm not saying its a bad thing but thats just her personality.
That is a pretty good generalization of me :)
Kind of like when my in-laws see me mix a protein shake and drink it...I get 'Thats bad for you...I heard that stuff you get at GNC will make your d-ck shrink and you can die!' as they puff on their cigarette and open a bag od Dorritos up and crack open another BudLite. Or here we go...hahahaha...Jennifer is Irish and so are my in-laws so maybe this will illustrate the 'duh-ness' of her stance on AAS as a national level figure athlete...
Have no idea where you came up with the notion I am Irish...you're wrong there. And if I was a Pro-Level competitor with the same attitude would you act the same way. What happened to you telling me I could do it without drugs????
I know FITCHIC will see how I'm trying to illustrate my moral here even in my bizarre way.
I suppose it depends what side of the fence she is on when she reads this.
I think it's a little more 'acceptable' with men using it anyway...doesnt effect us like it can with women. We talked about this before...take a look at Sarah D. She's a BB girl and she was GORGEOUS before the gear got the best of her...now she's starting to get a tad on the beastly side.
so you do agree with me...
I think we should change the topic here...it's just too hard to talk about being 'natural' all day on a Natural thread. It's good to debate. It generates thought and interest. Let's talk about why you dont TAN or use TANNING beds.
Of course....if it isn't one thing to argue with me about it is another. I don't want skin cancer and wrinkles...please prve to me that these are not affects of tanning. I am super white which means to get ANY kind of tan I have to go EVERY DAY, did it last year and my tan still sucked. Let me try this new prpduct and see at my first show how I look under the lights. If I look like s*** then I promise I will start tanning.
On a positive note, Jen...I won, I guess! Oh...dont publically call me 'FRIEND'. I'd rather get my b@lls smased by a wodden hammer than have a woman consider me a FRIEND. hahaha...'a friend!'
Nope, you didn't win, you are my friend too-you both are losers I guess.
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ok, fitchic so which is it, drugs are good or bad???? Just found this on another thread....
Did I miss something?
Hi Jen! I am not sure what you were trying to do here and confused about your question. The thread you found was about usage of drugs and I stated my opinion about the gear as well as the fact that I do not use it. That is exactly what I said when I first posted on your thread. As we got further into discussion, I elaborated more on the subject of its legality. So to answer your question - yes, I personally think that drugs have potentially negative consequences and since no one knows how it is going to affect you (some have sides, other never do), I've never had courage to try it out. But also if you paid attention to everything I said in the post you found, then yes I had considered it and the explanation is clear here - I know what pro level is like.
I suppose it depends what side of the fence she is on when she reads this.
I am on the right side of the fence and you surprise me by being such a skeptic here. Again read everything I have said in my posts. The more I read about your perception and how you try to pick on every little thing people say on here and try to defend everything, I more and more see just what Blockhead was trying to say about your nature of trying to prove the point. Sweetie, it's a discussion board where people do nothing but speak out their opinions, beliefs, perceptions and so on. It's OK to choose and do what you believe is right for you. I am too somtimes asked by people in the gym what it is that I maybe on but I just smile and say nothing. If someone wants to argue with me that I bullshit them and I use gear, I just leave it at that. I don't run around and go out of my way to prove to everyone that no I am 100% natural. I know that in my heart that I don't use it, so if someone argues with me, it does not make me go and defend myself. You seem to not be able to let it go...As Blockhead said - let's change the subject already. I was giving you nothing but props and compliments to start with anyway.
Sincerely,
~FitChic78
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We are getting 17" of snow in 2 days here in omaha.....
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Whoa! Hold up there FITCHIC...we cant talk on this thread. We have to be mindless automatons and just strictly speak about...about nothing. Its a 'ASK Jennifer...' thread but we cant get her to talk or think or debate. You're using way too many brain cells. Let's keep it really simple and basic here...you dont want to get BANNED.
Sorry Jen...let me ask you a few questions if I may in honor of your thread...
1). What is your favorite exercise?
2). What is your favorite color?
3). Did you know there is going to be snow in Omaha this week?
4). Have you ever made a 'snow angel'?
Hope you have the time to answer these questions. Thank you very much, maam.
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Fitchic, if I refute anything you said I will be acting like Blockhead said I would, so I won't even get into it. Thanks for the intial compliments (just remember you added to those compliments with comments stating I would never go Pro if I didn't use)...I just disagree.
As far as you Block...I don't think you really care about any of those questions but I will humor you anyway:
1. Squats
2. Pink and Aqua
3. I heard about it yes...I have family there
4. Yes
What about you sir?
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My favorite exercise has to be PULLOVERS on the old-school Nautilus machine.
My favorite color is Navy Blue.
I didn't know there was going to be snow in Omaha this week until GETBIGGER informed us.
Yes, I have made snow angels before.
Let's keep talking about precipitation in various cities throughout the country and we can talk about our favorite cartoons when we were kids and talk about nice things! Lets talk about butterflies and flowers! Whatever we do...lets keep it cookie-cutter and do our best not to think or debate or spit ideas/info out. There are other boards and threads for that...let's keep it basic as possible...
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Couple of questions:
1- Was the "National Level" show you competed in and did not place, a National Qualifier or a real National Show?
2- Having been at a Pro Level show, do you really think you can stand on stage with those women?
The reason for asking these questions is that the person who wins the Jr Nationals is essentially a Pro Caliber competitor.
3- Do you think your are Pro Caliber?
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I am not trying to bash you, I think you look great. I would get more show experience before hitting the National stage. Good luck!!
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I am not trying to bash you, I think you look great. I would get more show experience before hitting the National stage. Good luck!!
Thanks! I actually already competed at Junior Nationals last year (I definitely needed more experience then!) but I think it was the right decision because it gave me a better understanding of what I needed to do in my off-season to do well.
I think a majority of girls do a National Level show once they qualify-even if they aren't ready. This isn't necessarily a good or bad thing but it helps open your eyes and understand where you need to improve. I have 1-2 shows on the local level this year before Junior's again and I have had posing sessions 2-4 times a month set-up so I have been practicing. After Jr's let me know if you think I made the right decision or not :) Also if you have any suggestions I am all ears.
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Couple of questions:
1- Was the "National Level" show you competed in and did not place, a National Qualifier or a real National Show?
2- Having been at a Pro Level show, do you really think you can stand on stage with those women?
The reason for asking these questions is that the person who wins the Jr Nationals is essentially a Pro Caliber competitor.
3- Do you think your are Pro Caliber?
Oh sorry I didn't see this one...
1. Yes, it was Junior Nationals
2. Yes I do...though I am slightly nervous my upper body will be more developed then my lower
3. I wouldn't do this if I didn't...I know I have flaws with my body-my shape is not curvy enough and I have worked hard on my sweep and shape which was a major problem last year. But you can't change genetics, I have no hips and once I diet down completely it will be easier to see if my hard work has paid off.
I should post some recent pics so you all can tell me how you think I am looking and give me any comments. Though I won't be able to make drastic changes I may be able to tweak my posing and help my look. I'm 7 weeks out from my first show, I'll try and take some pics this weekend at my posing session and post them Monday. This one was at the Arnold, 10 weeks out from my show...you can't see my legs but you can get a small idea.
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Hey Block, I had to stop taking those BCAA's-I think they were making my stomach hurt. I have been feeling better-I suppose it could've been from other reasons but it seemed like I wasn't feeling "right" for like two weeks and that was the only thing I could attribute it to-what are your thoughts?
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Hmmm...
Interesting. How many BCAA caps do you use? Do you use it w/ Dialed-In? How many Dialed-In? 2?
Otherwise, a heaping scoop of l-glutamine would be enough to keep you from going 'non-catabolic' during your morning cardio as you will or SHOULD be on an empty stomach.
Or if you are really good w/ timing...let's say you perform your cardio at...7am. Then you will set an alarm or use your bladder as an alarm...get up at 4am and slug down a RESPECT shake...have 1 large scoop of RESPECT in 12-14 oz of water waiting for you in the refridgerator. If you do that...then you'll have about 30 grams of quality protein in you...3 hours later for cardio there still will be some amino acids from the RESPECT trickling/lingering around in your bloodstream...then you can focus on a scoop of l-glutamine and your Dialed-In and have no stress or concern about getting catabolic during cardio. Holla!
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HEY JEN, GETBIGGER, AND ALL OF YOU OTHER NATURALS OUT THERE...I JUST CAME ACROSS A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE ABOUT STEROIDS THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD READ.
http://www.thebrushback.com/pussies_full.htm
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LMFAO...thanks I needed that! ;D
Very persuasive piece as well, not sure I want to be considered a p**** so maybe I should change my mind about the whole steroids thing
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Hey Jen! A few questions for you. I've checked the pics you posted first on this thread and the latest from the Arnold and you have definitely improved your physique. How old are the first few pics?
You said you compete in a tall class. Which - D? What are you stats. What is your noramal weight in the off-season and what are you aiming for to compete at assuming you'll come in at 8-9% BF?
Do you work with a prof trainer/nutritionist to prep for a comp or is it pretty much all based on your own knowledge and advices from other competitors?
Thanks! Talk soon! Keep it up!
PS Which show are you doing in a few weeks again?
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Block- I was taking like 3-4 a day with some of my meals and after working out. I have been feeling better and I might give them another try, at least before morning cardio. If not I have my back up glutamine that I can use.
FitChic-thanks! I have really been training hard, all those other pics are from May-June last year. I competed at about 115 last year, I was so little and when I look back I look more like a fame competitor as opposed to a NPC competitor, I just hadn't given myself enough time in the weight room to regain what I had lost during my marathon year.
No, I am normally in the B class, I'm 5'3 1/2. In the off-season this year I got a little over 140 (which was so much fun, I suppose I won't be as bad this year but I really wanted to get big so I could pack on muscle-normally I hovered around 135 or under). I am hoping I will compete at 122 but I may come in a little lighter. Last year I hovered around 8% for my shows, this year I think I will be a little under that. My problem is my abs...I lean out almost too well in my upper and lower body, I already have striations in my shoulders which isn't a good thing for figure. If I don't get low enough my abs just don't look as good plus I have a thicker waist. It also seems like the girls are getting more and more lean so I am hoping for 6-7% which I think should be relatively easy to hit.
Last year I had a guy at my gym help me with my diet (he had done a few shows and was being nice by helping)...as you probably figured out though I am pretty self-reliant and independent so I did a ton of research and through competing last year I learned my body. When I reflect on last year I think I made mistakes which lead me into the shows looking flat and I am going to change some things this year. I have some friends who I talk things over (and I'll ask open-ended questions on forums) but for the most part I try and figure out what is best for me. Although I have had a lot of supplementation help from Pride Nutrition and I really think that has made a difference in the ease of dieting! Thank God!
My first show is The Heart of America, NGA show in Peoria IL-May 13.
I'm still undecided about the Illinois State NPC show May 27
Then I'll do Jr. Nationals, Team U and, if I have enough money, the Vegas show.
Thanks again, its always nice to hear that your hard work is paying off!
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HEY JEN, GETBIGGER, AND ALL OF YOU OTHER NATURALS OUT THERE...I JUST CAME ACROSS A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE ABOUT STEROIDS THAT I THINK YOU SHOULD READ.
http://www.thebrushback.com/pussies_full.htm
LOL, that is the funniest article I have read in a while....
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Block- I was taking like 3-4 a day with some of my meals and after working out. I have been feeling better and I might give them another try, at least before morning cardio. If not I have my back up glutamine that I can use.
Jen, are you really saying that you do not suppliment with any BCAA's when you do morning cardio?! I think you might re-consider since you want to keep as much muscle as possible and you of course know that you are the most catabolic first thing you wake up and doing cardio aint's helping that either. What is your routine like? Do you have a shake b/4 you do cardio or is it on empty stomach?
FitChic-thanks! I have really been training hard, all those other pics are from May-June last year. I competed at about 115 last year, I was so little and when I look back I look more like a fame competitor as opposed to a NPC competitor, I just hadn't given myself enough time in the weight room to regain what I had lost during my marathon year.
No, I am normally in the B class, I'm 5'3 1/2. In the off-season this year I got a little over 140 (which was so much fun, I suppose I won't be as bad this year but I really wanted to get big so I could pack on muscle-normally I hovered around 135 or under).
So you don't pay too much attention as to what you BF% is at in the off season? Or do you try to stay around say 18-20% to build and preserve the muscle size?
I am hoping I will compete at 122 but I may come in a little lighter. Last year I hovered around 8% for my shows, this year I think I will be a little under that. My problem is my abs...I lean out almost too well in my upper and lower body, I already have striations in my shoulders which isn't a good thing for figure. If I don't get low enough my abs just don't look as good plus I have a thicker waist. It also seems like the girls are getting more and more lean so I am hoping for 6-7% which I think should be relatively easy to hit.
I think you are wrong about going that low on BF%. Judges don't want you to look too lean and trust me 6-7 is not what they are looking for. You should stay with 8-9%, it's more of a look they tend to honor; too hard and dried and veiny and you are not even getting in the top 10! Why is it that you think figure girls are getting to 6-7%?! That's something I've never heard up until now...Seriously, talk to the girls more and see what they say. Look at the Mr. O and in case if you didn't notice Monica and Jenny were at 8% as were other girls.
As far as the weight you are shooting for, I think it's great conisdering that you are in B class. I guess I didn't realize you were a shorter girl, on the pics you do look like you might be 5'6" or even 5'7". As far as hips...sure it is good to have curves and when you diet down it definitely helps to have an essentially wider bone structure but it is also a two-way sword as when I am off season, that's where I carry most of the BF and it is also the last place it comes off...
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As far as the BCAA's, I had never taken them before-added them in like 2 weeks ago and had an upset stomach for those 2 weeks. I am not positive the two were linked but I really didn't feel good and they were the only thing I changed. My stomach has been feeling better since I stopped taking them but I am considering trying them again. If I still have a bad reaction then I will probably do 1/2 a protein shake with an extra scoop of glutamine. (Oh and I am doing it on an empty stomach).
Well, my routine just changed since I really don't do any cardio in the off-season (maybe plyos like 2x a month) though that isn't really cardio. As of last week I will be doing 3-4 days of cardio. 2 days low-intensity/45 minutes in the morning and 1-2 days of a quicker 20-30 minute sprint/jump rope/plyo workout. (I can't wait to hear everyone tell me how wrong this is :))
I think with bodyfat it is really depends on the individual. For instance I think Chastity Slone is quite lean-you are probably right about most girls being between about 8ish. After my first show I will have a better idea of how my stomach/waist looks this year. Hopefully my bigger lats and quads will help my sweep enough that my waist will look smaller.
Thanks for thinking I was taller! I use to really want to be taller but I love wearing heels and 5'3 isn't too bad. About the hips, I am helping a bunch of girls and it is crazy how similar all their bodies are and how different mine is! I suppose I need to have a baby and get me some hips-only kidding:)
Let me know what you think.
My bodyfat in the off-season never gets over about 17%. That is where I have always hovered, in college track I was maybe 14-16% but I've never been over 18% even at my biggest. I always have the same guy check me and now I can really look at myself and know what it is.
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As far as the BCAA's, I had never taken them before-added them in like 2 weeks ago and had an upset stomach for those 2 weeks. I am not positive the two were linked but I really didn't feel good and they were the only thing I changed. My stomach has been feeling better since I stopped taking them but I am considering trying them again. If I still have a bad reaction then I will probably do 1/2 a protein shake with an extra scoop of glutamine. (Oh and I am doing it on an empty stomach).
Honestly, I have never heard someone having stomach problems from BCAA's, so not sure what to say on this...Do you take protein like egg whites or a shake in the middle on a night or maybe right b/4 you go to bed? I am just curious if you've tried different approaches to doing your cardio. I gotta say that often my legs are sore from a previous day of training and if I eat right before I go to bed, then it is not as bothering, but even with Glut I find it hard sometimes to drag my ass to the gym for a morning session.
Well, my routine just changed since I really don't do any cardio in the off-season (maybe plyos like 2x a month) though that isn't really cardio. As of last week I will be doing 3-4 days of cardio. 2 days low-intensity/45 minutes in the morning and 1-2 days of a quicker 20-30 minute sprint/jump rope/plyo workout. (I can't wait to hear everyone tell me how wrong this is :))
I don't think it is wrong...well, it all depends. As you said, you know your body. Some do not do cardio at all a couple weeks out and though I am not that genetically gifted, I think I want to try to stick to a super clean diet and see if that by itself will bring my body down. I believe that 70% is all diet and if you follow it religiously, then just little cardio should be enough...Plus you obviously have good metabolism and don't have to bust your ass to shed few extra pounds...Lucky! ;) Once I am at 15, I just maintain and 3 days of 20-30 min is sufficient enough.
I think with bodyfat it is really depends on the individual. For instance I think Chastity Slone is quite lean-you are Hopefully my bigger lats and quads will help my sweep enough that my waist will look smaller.
Just as you said - by bringing your lats out and quads also, you'll have that symmetrical look. Don't get stuck on your waist, seems to me you are overly concerned about it. It is what it is and you can't change your essential bone structure. You risk to go to lean in attempt to make your waist as small as possible and that all other parts of your body may suffer...
So you are about 8 weeks out from a show. Can you post some photos of you right now? I think I read somewhere on the board that you were going to post them by Monday...hhhmmm, girlfriend it is already Friday ;)
Sincerely,
~FitChic78
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Ohhhh, are you mad at me...just telling you like it is gb! Give me 8 weeks of a real contst diet and stop your whining, then I'll consider you a bber.
FitChic-no, I meant I was going to take pictures this weekend at my posing session and I'll have them up by next Monday.
Yeah I am not sure about the BCAA's too-it was just the only thing I had changed, I may have had a stomach thing though. I'll try them tomorrow morning before cardio. Right before I go to bed I have a Protein Shake but I have never gotten up to eat in the middle of the night. I really should try that Egg White International Stuff-have you tried it? Let me know.
As far as cardio, man I feel like I do less then everyone else so I am glad that you said that. I actually don't know any other competitors that do less then I do, I am sure they are out there somewhere but all my friends and people I know that compete do like an hour a day. Not me! I wasn't even going to do the 45 minute sessions but so many people told me I should that I reworked my schedule and added in a few more carbs those days. I'm with you about it being mostly diet (I actually think its more then 70%), and with no cardio I have brought myself down to 12% and could probably go the whole way but like I said so many people told me to do cardio and up my carbs to stay fuller. It would be nice to know that other people don't do cardio so I don't think I am wrong.
You're right I am obsessed about my waist but then again this is a sport of "perfection." It isn't just me though, I notice thick waists on the people at my gym and cringe when they do obliques with weight. Like you said I can't change my genetics so I should just get over it...
Thanks for the support!
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I am a HUGE fan of EggWhiteInternational. That would be a GREAT IDEA!
Try this before bed-time...1 cup of water, 6-pumps of LiquidEgg and 1-2 scoops of RESPECT. It will make the effects of the protein so much better not to mention...consistent taste and excellent service dealing with that company. Call them up...tell the owner 'Mac' I sent you (my real name not BlockHead).
Keep doing what you are doing, dear! Monitor your body through the mirrors not the scale. We'll see how you look this weekend...spit some ideas out...put our heads together.
Hey I agree with you...you arent a bonified BB unless you compete...there is only ONE reason on planet earth why one doesnt compete...it is FEAR! Not time, money, other responsibilities, it's pure FEAR! They are AFRAID! BooYaa!!!
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Ok, well I ordered the egg white stuff-I'll let you know what I think.
I really don't want to post these pics for a number of reasons but I said I would. Just so you all now I did a killer leg workout prior to the pics which is why I can't really flex my legs in them. Also my camera setting must have slipped (I noticed today while I was downloading them) so they are grainy. And yes I am deathly white which makes my cuts harder to see. I know, excuses, excuses...I'll just get it over with:)
Oh I also lent my posing suits from last year to a friend and I don't have my new ones (probably a good thing since I am guessing they will be REALLY tiny this year!)
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Looking really good. Lighting really sucks though.
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You were successful in your quest for more size. Your shape looks great overall. Few points I do notice though.
Your legs are awesome, looks like you can add to your lines by more outer quad sweep (narrow stance squats/narrow stance hacks). Not much needed but I think a little would go a long way.
Your glutes could be larger especially the glute/hamstring insertion, maybe some butt to heel squats working through the lowest zone without coming all the way up (Xrep style).
I would be willing to bet that if you starting doing sprint drills with high knee work for your cardio, your hips and glute region would pop!!
On the cardio topic, how fast do you normally lean out? I have never been a huge fan of treadmill/stepper/eliptical trainer stuff unless the person looses slowly. If you lean out quicker, sprint training/drills are a great way to cut up and lean out.
Let me know what you think,
Phil
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See that red-mark on her mid-trap lower neck area? Thats her skin all roughed up...
Thats what happens when you dont use a bar-pad and squat 275 for 10 deep reps then 315 for 3 and do walking lunges with a 100lb bar on your back up and down the gym. All 1 hour before those pics were taken.
Thats HARDCORE! This is the reason why I luv this girl so much...
Holla!
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Your legs are awesome, looks like you can add to your lines by more outer quad sweep (narrow stance squats/narrow stance hacks). Not much needed but I think a little would go a long way.
Your glutes could be larger especially the glute/hamstring insertion, maybe some butt to heel squats working through the lowest zone without coming all the way up (Xrep style).
I would be willing to bet that if you starting doing sprint drills with high knee work for your cardio, your hips and glute region would pop!!
On the cardio topic, how fast do you normally lean out? I have never been a huge fan of treadmill/stepper/eliptical trainer stuff unless the person looses slowly. If you lean out quicker, sprint training/drills are a great way to cut up and lean out.
Let me know what you think,
Phil
Thanks, your response is what I am looking for. I lean out pretty fast and really one of the main reasons I do cardio is because everyone says you should...also the reason for my low-intensity cardio. Not the best reason to do something but the truth. I would much rather do sprinting and plyos but most competitors have told me to do low-intensity stuff.
The butt to heel squats sound awful, I'll try them out. Thanks for the leg compliments...it is such a concern for me. Once I am tanned I will look better but also, as Block pointed out I had a kick-ass workout beforehand so flexing was near impossible.
Thanks again for the suggestions. As of now any squats I do will be narrow stance, they aren't as fun though. I'll post more pics in a couple weeks.
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See that red-mark on her mid-trap lower neck area? Thats her skin all roughed up...
Thats what happens when you dont use a bar-pad and squat 275 for 10 deep reps then 315 for 3 and do walking lunges with a 100lb bar on your back up and down the gym. All 1 hour before those pics were taken.
Thats HARDCORE! This is the reason why I luv this girl so much...
Holla!
Thanks for pointing out that red mark...I hadn't even noticed it!
What you say is mostly true..the 315 for 3 part is not. I know you helped me on those...just wait until next year when I am not dieting, then I plan on repping that easily and maxing at about 365 or 400.
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Your ghost white skin is blinding me.
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Ok so I had a really hard workout today and thought I would share. Although I like to think I am still a sprinter, like I was in college, I am definitely NOT one anymore! I knew I wouldn't be able to lift tonight so I figured I would get in a sprinting workout first thing in the morning since it would be tough and I would have a day to recover. Well Chicago weather sucks especially when you have something you need to get done outdoors planned.
Once I stepped outside I knew I was stupid for thinking this would be a good idea. The temperature wasn't the main problem, though 38 degrees is a little chilly but the drizzling rain really got on my nerves. Once at the track I did my 2 lap warm-up, stretched and did drills...not so bad too far. The weather still sucked but I was tougher then letting that stop me.
So I started my workout, 5 x 200 Meters, 5 x 100 Meters with a 2:30 rest in between. I really focused on my form, keeping my knees up and staying on my toes. It ended up being a great workout-other then the rain making it quite hard to see out of my glasses. My 200's were in 36-37 seconds and my 100's all in the 15's. Not super fast but ok for a washed up track athlete. By the end of the workout though my calves were so tight I was almost nervous I may pull something.
It felt good to be sprinting again and having my legs move that fast. They have the hurdles out so next time I will probably set up some plyos for me to do after the workout.
Phil, if you have any suggestions on a good workout I am all ears.
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I was thinking shorter bursts, 200m might be too much...I dunno. I was never in track. I played baseball and we did resistance 40 yard sprints and 100 yard sprints, followed by a few sets of shuttle runs. That pumped up my legs, hams and glutes big time.......
PS washed up track athlete + hurdles = nothing good ;D
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I think 100/200 meter stuff is fine. I would focus on really opening up your stride when coming out of the curve in the 200, striking dorsiflexed at the ankle, pulling through with hamstring, hipflexor and glute. I hope that is clear, easier way to say it is to driving through using hip girdle/hamstring. The speed is not really as important as targeting the muscle group and getting an aerobic workout. High knee is important also. Pretty much the same on the 100 meter stuff, lenghten stride pattern and pull through with hip girdle/hamstring.
Sprint drills ie. high skips,bounding etc.Drills that require high knees.
I believe your waistline is fine, I can definitely see the effects from years of sprinting through your core. No worries there, you are getting wider at your lat level and with more outer sweep to your quads, you will be golden. Feminine X frame!!!
Try to keep your eye on the goal of becoming a Pro Figure competitor, your base is good, focus on the stuff that give you the right lines for your competition. Aesthetic training more so than mass, bulk, power training.
I hope this helps,
Phil
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Come on someone POST something here again...
Hey GetBigger...let's argue or something...lets get the pot stirred.
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Come on someone POST something here again...
Hey GetBigger...let's argue or something...lets get the pot stirred.
LOL......I'm not arguing with you right know. Your doing a show tomorrow, your probably a crabby dehydrated irritated motherf**ker ....
;D
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I'm just thirsty. I'm sitting here in my hole(cubicle) w/ a coat of ProTan on...smelling like nail-polish remover eating baked potatoes and turkey.
I'm not that crabby...I still like to argue, though. Oh, I was so livid last night...holy fk! Last night I was still depleting(I only carb up Friday and Saturday morning) so I go 5 FULL days of nothing but chicken/broccoli/flaxseed/and 2 gallons water...so I'm dizzy, my head is spinning, I feel drunk, I'm starving, I have to pee again real bad...I had a wad of Skoal(Wintergreen) in my mouth and no spit cup so my saliva is just filling and building in my mouth...
...my only goal was to run in 'Dominicks'(big chain grocery store in Chicagoland) and grab...pack of lean cut steaks, bag of potatoes and some whole-wheat pancake mix for Saturday morning...3 things...real quick right in right out. In under 2 minutes I acquire what I need since it was 11:00pm...only 1 line open at that time since it was pretty much empty. I get to the register swipe out the ATM card...it asked for PIN number...(shit how the hell do I know complicated things like that?) so I glance behing me...3 more people in line...I grab the phone dial the shit out of 'the ol' lady'...she doesnt answer...I call again and again and again...keep calling it keeps ringing I keep calling...now I am starting to sweat. I feel cortisol flowing all through me...I feel a lump in my throat and my tear ducts swelling. I have to pee so bad. I have saliva just BUILDING from my dip and nowhere to spit and now i'm holding up the line.
2 minutes pass I feel every eyeball from the people behind me just GLARING at me. Felt like...you know in 'Predator' when you see those 3 beams of light shaped like a triangle...you know any second you're in trouble...thats how it felt! Still no answer...I cant think of the PIN number...so I give it a crack...NOPE another shot...NOPE so after the longest minute of my life...more cortisol flowing...I feel water rentention building. I have to pee so bad finally the ol lady answers...
Now I cant speak...I have a mouth FULL of spit so I muster out...'aaayy...wasssth da piiii-nuuuumbvvrrr???' she goes...'WHAT?' I go...'wasssthssth da...PIIINnn-ummmbvver???' she goes...'whats wrong with you?' So I do it...I did it. I swallowed it. (OUCH!) I go...'whats the fkn PIN number?????' she tells me I pop it in pay for the merch and got the hell out of Dodge.
No big deal. I've been so constipated a little Skoal Wintergreen cleared that little dillema up no problem...as soon as I walked in the door.
So I guess it was a good thing.
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Skoal mint myself. That is the worst....LOL, anytime you have a dip in your mouth and no spitter and think you can do whatever quick, never happens that way. Every time I put in a dip in the car and have no spitter, I get all green lights......never fails. And I ain't about to roll down the window and spit out and have it all across my car.....it's like Murphy's Law or something. When I work on teh weekends, every time I put in a dip a girl comes up to me and wants to talk. So I have to stand by the trash can and spit in front of her the whole time.
I dont know how you kept that s**t down....
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I believe that...Murphy's Law is a real thing.
One of the best times to have a dip is driving to work...a 20-30 minutes drive? Nothing is better than a little buzz from the steady flow of nicotine...HOWEVER, everytime I have the can open in my thumb and middle finger and try to take a pinch at a red light with my other hand...GREENLIGHT and get greenlights all the way to work...literally all the way non stop...get to work in 12-15 minutes.
Now if I leave my dip at work or for whatever odd reason dont have it on me? I hit redlights...heavy traffic...funeral processions, accidents...roadwork...p lanes, trains and automobiles! Everytime. Or as a meathed...we gotta eat when we gotta eat so sometimes its while driving. So right before I leave work...i heat the meal up in the microwave...figure I'll munch on it at red-lights...and I'm married so I'm not ever in a hurry to get home so sure enough...nothing but greenlights...not a stop sign or red light in sight. Everytime. Now...if I had NO FOOD and was 45 minutes PAST my timed meal...n-gga pleeeease! It would be nothing but red-lights...accidents...traffic jams...trains...everythi ng and anything.
Watch...watch how quick Jennifer tries to tell us how 'chewing tobacco is gross and BAD FOR YOU!' Hahahaha...I love when that happens...chillin w/ a dip and someone goes...'man, thats bad for you!' hahahahaha!
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you guys are hillbillies.
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I thought about that too when she finds out were talking about chewing on HER thread. ;D
How about the time you need it the most and you open it up and it's empty....or your sure you left it in the center console of your car and it's gone. >:(
LOL.....you ever get stuck like at the grocery store like you were and you start talking mumbling with a mouth full of chew spite and it starts drooling out the corners of your mouth.....
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Yea well you're NOT a hillbilly, BAST so eat that apple!
Yea man...when it comes to dip...I did it all and seen it all. I still fall asleep with it then it smeared all over the pillows and all over me everywhere. Because of the last few posts...I threw in a wad...now I feel more sharp...I feel alive and vibrant. I feel focused and 'In The Zone!'. Dip? Dip is the ultimate 'performance enhancer'. If I have to read something or take a test...everything is so much more enhanced with a dip. Dip is our friend.
Thats her fault...she hasnt been posting on HER thread. I'll see her tomorrow...
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Yea well you're NOT a hillbilly, BAST so eat that apple!
Yea man...when it comes to dip...I did it all and seen it all. I still fall asleep with it then it smeared all over the pillows and all over me everywhere. Because of the last few posts...I threw in a wad...now I feel more sharp...I feel alive and vibrant. I feel focused and 'In The Zone!'. Dip? Dip is the ultimate 'performance enhancer'. If I have to read something or take a test...everything is so much more enhanced with a dip. Dip is our friend.
Thats her fault...she hasnt been posting on HER thread. I'll see her tomorrow...
you're the man!!
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you're the man!!
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Thats just a case of bad genes......
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OK OK I am back lets please STOP with the disgusting pictures and stories about dip. You guys are right it is NASTY. I actually have a little story about it.
As you probably all know I was on the wrestling team in high school, the only girl-did it for all 4 years. Well I think it was probably my junior or senior year and we had gone to watch the guys in Sectionals-we beat the bus back and were waiting around because we were gonna go play lasertag or something after. All the guys I was with were dipping, I though-hmmm that would be a good idea. So they showed me how and told me to spit but didn't really explain that I should never swallow any of the spit. So are finally on our way to the laser tag place and I am feeling kind of good. We get there and something changed.
Let's backup to what we did for lunch/dinner-our coach took us to Boston Market and told us to order whatever we wanted. I ate A LOT.
So here we are in the laser tag parking lot and all of a sudden I am completely nauseous and start uncontrollably throwing up. I threw up everything, corn, chicken, mashed potatoes, green beans, everything until I was finally dry heaving. They drove me back to my car, I made it home, took a shower and prayed that night to not die. I felt that horrible.
Needless to say I have yet to try it again and for probably a year after that the smell of cherry made me queasy. I don't know how you guys do it but it really is a disgusting habit.
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Block, congratulations-you looked great and I can't wait to see you the 27th. Have fun today because the diet starts again soon:(
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Hey, don't take it out on us just because you couldnt handle it.....
speaking of which I am gonna need one after I eat this burnt leathery fish.... :-\
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Hey, don't take it out on us just because you couldnt handle it.....
speaking of which I am gonna need one after I eat this burnt leathery fish.... :-\
Why don't you make some chicken or turkey burgers-those are HARD to screw up. (not that fish is difficult to make ::))
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I had chicken all weekend, turkey puts me to sleep, and fish........I am getting the hang of...... :P
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Thanks, Jen...
Of course i'm not happy but it was an awesome learning expierence...I got alot of good constructive criticisim from a couple judges and it comes down to needing more extreme conditioning.
I can do it...and I will. My next show instead of Illinois State will be the new 'USA CONT.' in September. I came in at 220lb Saturday...for this show I HAVE to come in UNDER 210 no matter what...205-209 range will be my goal.
Chicago is hosting a firefighters enterance examination the day before the Illinois show...I have to focus on scoring well(physical/written) and landing that job. Also...funds are low right now...not to mention I'd like to take a month or so to 'down regulate'. Know what Im saying?
Thank you though...thank you for being there for me and cheering me on...you know I am and will do the same for you...always. Holla!
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Hey Block! So you did the show this past weekend. What's the outcome? I would love to see a couple of pics from the comp. Would you mind posting? :) You never came across to me as a shy type but in case if you don't want it to be posted on here, you can always email me ;)
Congruts, man! Hope you are still considering going to the O. this year. Hit me back and lem'me know!
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I deleted it because there is no place for that kind of s**t on this board. I didn't even think it was worthy of a reply.
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Jen,
First and foremost let me state that I do not have hatred in me. It may be percieved as such, but it is more a case of being defensive. There is not a person on this forum who has any idea of the accomplishments, I too have achieved. It was not fair and even embarrassing that you found some type of satifaction by degrading me in front people at the show. You want to call me out and say that I don't work hard? Why? You see me move 600lb squats at a bodyweight of 205lbs., Is that not hard work? I know you work hard and I do respect that, but don't use someone else's situation at your benefit. Do you feel that is makes you more of a competitor? I placed 3rd at the Powerlifting USA Junior Nationals at age 22, then 6 months later I trained to compete in the Ironman I was 3 weeks out 6.5% bodyfat and 210lbs. But a caught Mono. Doesn't make me weak, it makes me stronger. I accomplished all this with a full-time job and caring for my mother every night as she was lying in bed dying. I know sacrafice. I know you do as well, but next time realize that I too love "The Iron Game" and we should not try to rank ourselves or judge each other anywhere else but on the stage. I will be there for your show, whether you like it or not. Trust me when I say this, I have never quit anything. Hopefully, my words have done what yours have indeed done to me..... MOTIVATE. Hate me all you want or forgive and forget. I am a competitor. Your are a competitor. Take a negative and make it a positive. Fuel the fire within. I am looking to make my way back into competion. Call BlockHead let's hit it hard and heavy. Peace out..............
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Yo, dear...
Think about it like this...does this person get any hate mail? NO! Know why? he isnt 'known' at all by any means. YOU on the other hand ARE known and almost very wll known now so it is in the nature of someone making a name for themselves to get hate mail from time to time.
It's called popularity. Think of anyone famous...anyone and I can promise they get or have gotten hate mail.
At that show Saturday...you worked the crowds like no other...all kinds of girls competing in that show were lined up to talk to you on what they need to do to get better.
That post...was a 'Rite of Passage'. Think about it...you've arrived. You made it. You aint made it...until you get a hater or a bunch of haters. You feel me?
Go to the 'Gossip/Opinions' board...even Ronnie and Jay...the top 2 BB's on planet earth...get worse! Know why? They made it thats why...
Holla!
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Yo, dear...
Think about it like this...does this person get any hate mail? NO! Know why? he isnt 'known' at all by any means. YOU on the other hand ARE known and almost very wll known now so it is in the nature of someone making a name for themselves to get hate mail from time to time.
It's called popularity. Think of anyone famous...anyone and I can promise they get or have gotten hate mail.
At that show Saturday...you worked the crowds like no other...all kinds of girls competing in that show were lined up to talk to you on what they need to do to get better.
That post...was a 'Rite of Passage'. Think about it...you've arrived. You made it. You aint made it...until you get a hater or a bunch of haters. You feel me?
Go to the 'Gossip/Opinions' board...even Ronnie and Jay...the top 2 BB's on planet earth...get worse! Know why? They made it thats why...
Holla!
The Block has spoken the truth...
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(Sigh)
Wow...
I am in loss for words...(shaking my head).
Thanks, GETBIGGER...
This one hit close to home...I gotta make some phone calls here...let me straighten some things out...
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(Sigh)
Wow...
I am in loss for words...(shaking my head).
Thanks, GETBIGGER...
This one hit close to home...I gotta make some phone calls here...let me straighten some things out...
God, you guys are hillarious! It's raining here in Cali, so I am feeling a bit "blue" today. But then I have to come back on this board and on this particular thread just to read how you two are on each other's ass (in a good way recently, lol) and it makes my day! Thanks for the chuckle! ;D
Peace!
~FitChic
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Block has a crush on me.....
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Yea I know. It disturbs me that we're teammates now. I had more fun when we arm-wrestled eachother all the time. I'm trying to get us back to that again...holla!
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Block has a crush on me.....
Damn G_B! Now that I know that, I may have to reconsider my invite for all of us to go have some fun at the O. this year, LOL...OK, we can get separate rooms, but then again...the point was to get the cost down...So yeah, get back to the arm wrestling thing guys! LOL
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No room is big enough for me and GETBIGGER...matter fact...VEGAS aint big enough for me and GETBIGGER
Check your e-mail Olena...Holla!
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Ummmm, I was never invited to this Olympia thing you are all planning. Hope you all have fun.
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I am guessing everyone thought you were a given. Why wouldn't Pride go to the Olympia?
Congrats on moderating the Nutrition board! I hope that doesn't mean you will be spending any less time here >:(
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Ummmm, I was never invited to this Olympia thing you are all planning. Hope you all have fun.
Hey Jen! Of course you are! I thought Block would've have passed the invite on to you by now...
So how many weeks out R U from the show as of today?
How R U feeling?
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I'm ok, I've been a little depressed about personal things in my life but I am trying not to let that affect my training.
I had a good sprint workout yesterday and my calves were still sore from last week! I did 8 150's...probably will only do 2x cardio a week as I am leaning out well and don't want to get to lean and hard.
Other then that the dieting hasn't been too bad and I swear the creatine is helping my muscles stay full. Everything seems to be going well. Thanks for asking:) As of today I am a little over 5 weeks out (I wish it were closer!!!)
Here is a pic of us at the show last weekend...we had a good time!
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I am guessing everyone thought you were a given. Why wouldn't Pride go to the Olympia?
Congrats on moderating the Nutrition board! I hope that doesn't mean you will be spending any less time here >:(
Thank you and you know I would never leave you!
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Looking good, chica! Who are the girls with ya?
Was Dex a guest poser at the show or just promoting at a booth?
Don’t you love him?!
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FitChic...
Go to www.pridenutrition.com Check out their pics...you'll see TheBlockHead on stage...holla!
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Looking good, chica! Who are the girls with ya?
Was Dex a guest poser at the show or just promoting at a booth?
Don’t you love him?!
Dex...well he was entertaining and fun to chat with. He was the guest poser, he looked really good (especially considering some of the guest posers I have seen!)
The other girls are other competitors/girls that help Pride out locally. 1 of them competes in FAME shows (Natalie) and Dawn is a Fitness competitor, the other girl is possibly training for her first show in quite awhile.
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Damn,
Jennifer got a bunch of BLUE STARS...
Hey Jen is it true Dexter was trying to get you to go out to dinner w/ him after the show? Little rumor floating around the hallways of the show...
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He was going out with the promoters of the show and a bunch of other people and said I could join...not an exclusive invite as you are implying. Anyway what was I going to do at an Italian Restaurant...drink some Olive Oil and nibble on lettuce???? Also even though it was innocent I woudn't have done that to my bf-it would have driven him crazy.
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He was going out with the promoters of the show and a bunch of other people and said I could join...not an exclusive invite as you are implying. Anyway what was I going to do at an Italian Restaurant...drink some Olive Oil and nibble on lettuce???? Also even though it was innocent I woudn't have done that to my bf-it would have driven him crazy.
Ha, drinking olive oil - classic! That's how I was at the last year's O, a couple of weeks before my show and I could not go do all the buffets and stuff...but still ate decent food, you know salmon and veggies, omletes, chicken. You can find food that you can eat, even in an Italian restaurant.
As far as your BF...Well, you better start preparing him for that kinda stuff starting now coz sweetie, once you get involved in the industry more than just doing a local show here and there, social gatherings, fan huggings at a promo booth, dinners with promoters and sponsors, after parties, etc, all off that will be a part of your life and maybe even your job. So he may as well get used to it now...
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quit bullshittin jen... you know you were all over dex at the show...
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oh, marshy you're just jealous I wasn't all over you (and your gansta bandaid)
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As far as your BF...Well, you better start preparing him for that kinda stuff starting now coz sweetie, once you get involved in the industry more than just doing a local show here and there, social gatherings, fan huggings at a promo booth, dinners with promoters and sponsors, after parties, etc, all off that will be a part of your life and maybe even your job. So he may as well get used to it now...
I wish it were that easy!
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Amen to that!
I've come to terms with the fact that bodybuilders, fitness and/or figure competitors should be with someone who is in the same mindset as they are within this industry. I used to think otherwise but not anymore due to many recent circumstances.
We love this...thats why were here. Common people just cannot fathom it.
You can't blame them but thats goes with ANYTHING when one person has a passion and the other doesnt.
On that note...someone who is with a competitive BB or Fit/Fig. girl...cannot be jealous/insecure. That is by far the absolute worst quality a human being can have. I respect liars and thieves before I do jealous/insecure envious people. people who are jealous/insecure...it isnt because of the other party which the latter like to blame for the reason why they are the way they are. It is part of their genetic makeup. Its part of their personality. Its part of their brain function. It is just who they are! Peroid. They arent 'bad' people per say...but not right an not compatible with people who are not jealous/insecure.
Its something that cannot ever be changed or fixed. "Well...maybe if I was home a little more and maybe if I didnt take this so serious and maybe if I would assure him/her more that..." NO! It is part of their brain function. I like the color Navy Blue. I'm also not too good at algebra. No matter what my wife or significant other does...I still like Navy Blue and will never be a mathematician. Get it?
We(us loving and involved with this industry) arent doing anything wrong. We train, we eat...we live goal-orientated lifestyles...we train w/ eachother, we help eachother, we dine w/ eachother...call eachother for advice, support and scratch eachothers backs...its what we do. If 'they' cant handle it...then thats THEIR problem...they are just simply more compatible with someone more like them. Ponder those statements, folks...
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Amen to that!
I've come to terms with the fact that bodybuilders, fitness and/or figure competitors should be with someone who is in the same mindset as they are within this industry. I used to think otherwise but not anymore due to many recent circumstances.
We love this...thats why were here. Common people just cannot fathom it.
You can't blame them but thats goes with ANYTHING when one person has a passion and the other doesnt.
On that note...someone who is with a competitive BB or Fit/Fig. girl...cannot be jealous/insecure. That is by far the absolute worst quality a human being can have. I respect liars and thieves before I do jealous/insecure envious people. people who are jealous/insecure...it isnt because of the other party which the latter like to blame for the reason why they are the way they are. It is part of their genetic makeup. Its part of their personality. Its part of their brain function. It is just who they are! Peroid. They arent 'bad' people per say...but not right an not compatible with people who are not jealous/insecure.
Its something that cannot ever be changed or fixed. "Well...maybe if I was home a little more and maybe if I didnt take this so serious and maybe if I would assure him/her more that..." NO! It is part of their brain function. I like the color Navy Blue. I'm also not too good at algebra. No matter what my wife or significant other does...I still like Navy Blue and will never be a mathematician. Get it?
We(us loving and involved with this industry) arent doing anything wrong. We train, we eat...we live goal-orientated lifestyles...we train w/ eachother, we help eachother, we dine w/ eachother...call eachother for advice, support and scratch eachothers backs...its what we do. If 'they' cant handle it...then thats THEIR problem...they are just simply more compatible with someone more like them. Ponder those statements, folks...
And that concludes this segment of Dr. Phil Blockhead
;D
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I never expected you to be all over me Jen...I'm white! hahahaha...
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I never expected you to be all over me Jen...I'm white! hahahaha...
LMAO
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Hahahaha! BOOYAA!!!
That one almost made me swallow this big fat plud of Skoal Wintergreen stuck in my bottom lip...
Way to go, Joel!
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I would like to respond to a few posts that I have had the opportunity to view over the past few days. I believe that this information can in fact be quite benificial to other competitors. First, as stated that one believes that Bodybuilders, Figure, etc. should be involved with only people that are in the industry. To me that only further segregates and isolates the sport into more of a "click" than a sport. Also, who wants to be so one-dimensional and isolated from everything else around us, including our families and even spouses. Bodybuilding is a great sport but it can be quite self-destructive in many ways. I have seen many bodybuilders fall to pieces over steroid use including; depression, inability to communicate and maintain a relationship with a spouse, aggression, isolation from friends and family, and not to mention the overwhelming pressure to "create a perfect body". The only people who will argue this statement are people who fall into the category. An addict will never admit to a problem, all they have is denial and excuses. Why not just be happy with what God has given us, and try to enjoy the entire world rather than just the warped alore of bodybuilding.
I have seen many bodybuilders sacrafice everything including their families, which I too was guilty of, as well. This is not productive, it is destructive and SELFISH!! It is not the insecure and selfish ways of our family, it is our own selfishness that keeps us locked away in a gym isolated from our loved ones, For what? Seriously some compliments, a trophy ( that is if you place high enough), and a few pictures. Bodybuild and train like an animal, I love to do it too, but think about the others you have surrounded yourselves with. How does it make them feel to have all the attention and focus on just yourself. Don't you think they deserve equal attention as well, regardless of the claim "I AM A BODYBUILDER, THIS IS WHAT I DO!!" What you are doing is creating an excuse or rather an issue to get as much attention as possible, due in part to your own insecurities.
Everything is moderation. Do not get consumed by ideas and thoughts that can be mentally and emotionally destructive to others around us. Bodybuilding is a sport. Nothing more, nothing less. Have fun and enjoy life. This may come across as merely negative Bodybuilding Propaganda, but it is intended to help create a more stable environment for those that compete and the people involved in their lives.
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Never has a TRUER post been POSTED!
Bodybuilding is my best friend...but it is also my worst enemy...
Holla!
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I actually think you are both right and wrong. I really believe you have to find someone who is interested in the same things you are and if they aren't, then they must be supportive. This is also a two-way street, I think it is important that people have outside interests and that their significant other supports them. Bodybuilding can dictate many things in your life...but so can a job or other hobbies. Just because I have found something I like doing, that I take pride in doing doesn't mean I am unhappy or let it ruin my life and relationships.
This weekend I went out with my friends-they ate pizza I brought my own food...they didn't care. Then we went out to a club-at 1 AM I was one of the only ones who could still see everyone in the bar, didn't want to gorge myself on junk food and really still wanted to dance and had energy. Then I drove them back to the hotel-it was good for both me and them...just because I choose to compete doesn't mean I don't have a life, I just have to be a little more disciplined and prepared when I do go out. Plus taking taxis or riding with people who have been drinking isn't an issue.
Maybe you guys get yourselves in too deep and don't see the people around you...it isn't bodybuilding that does this-it is your own personality.
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I take that back...
Now let me say again...'Never has a truer post been posted!'
Or we impulsivley without thinking on a whim of a fleeting feeling jump into something without thinking about it.
Bodybuilding is my safe-haven. It's my happy place. It's also my curse and worst enemy but still...I wouldnt give it up or slow it down for anybody. It is who I am and I love every second of it and I am going to miss it when it is all said and done and all the smoke has cleared.
I prefer living an austere lifestyle. Outside of BB...it's all about renting movies...going to the movies, borrowing movies and now the weather is breaking a little...I am going to make a vow to do a little casting(fishing) locally once a week or so. I think fishing is probably the ONLY thing that can take me away from the BB world for a day or two...matter of fact...if there was a major lake or river walking distance to where I live...I dont think I'd be so 'lost in the game'.
Clubs/bars have no interest to a kid like me. It is amazing how lots of people in America associate having a 'life' by the definition of being out late and consuming alcohol.
If anything...being a BB/FIT/FIG person requires attention to detail like bringing own food and water and staying true to our aim. We just live in a country...live in a society that soothing and indulging by 'scratching' all itches of the flesh and temporal pleasures so the only thing socially acceptable is mass alcohol consumption, promiscuity, engorging on junk(non-nutritious foods/drugs).
It always feels/felt that it is you(me) against the whole world because my first choice is to rest and lay-low and stay in my element because the otherside to me...is borning and so very ordinary.
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Let me just say this again for the 3rd time...
(clearing throat...) "Never has a TRUER post been POSTED!!!"
GetBigger...we should start a club or something. I do believe now with every fiber of my being that somebody who does what we do need to be with someone who does the same. It is because we understand and live it as well and know what it is like to be concerned about food prep/timing and needing a gym partner and someone to talk to and vent about with things in the industry or frustrations that comes with this dance.
I'd much rather have whoever I am with to be proud of me and be encouraging and not only be my mate but my TEAMMATE, my friend and partner in crime, my ultimate companion. My everything.
It's just when one person has a passion and the other one does not...it's going to cause a situation. Throw in a partner who is sickly jealous/insecure...its a recipe for disaster. Moral of the story is...stick with your own kind. I hate to admit that I believe that now.
E-mail me, GETBIGGER if you want to start that club. I know a guy who can screen up some t-shirts and get buisness cards and 'members only' jackets for us...
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When I have a girl who isn't in the lifestyle it typically doesn't work. Usually I find that they have a problem with the amount of time I devote to the gym. Granted compromise should come into play, but they usually are attracted to the build but have a probelm with the time it takes to keep it. I have heard a number of times from different girls "Im tired of being second to your working out"......well......sorry. Some day that may change but not now. This is why I prefer someone who knows what it takes, has the same interest and hell, can work out together a few times.
Ah G_B, I wish you lived closer... :-*
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GetBigger...we should start a club or something. I do believe now with every fiber of my being that somebody who does what we do need to be with someone who does the same. It is because we understand and live it as well and know what it is like to be concerned about food prep/timing and needing a gym partner and someone to talk to and vent about with things in the industry or frustrations that comes with this dance.
I'd much rather have whoever I am with to be proud of me and be encouraging and not only be my mate but my TEAMMATE, my friend and partner in crime, my ultimate companion. My everything.
What's your wife's take on this, Block?
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Pffft! Don't ask.
I'm just going to PLEA the 5th on this one. I dont want to get a phone call later with an FBI interrogation and grilling. Awww what the hell fk it...I will get grilled/drilled regardless.
Theres always two sides to every story, FIT. Where I stand, though...I've been BB-ing since 1999...this is who I am and what I do. this isnt a 'hobby' like bird-watching or stamp collecting. This is my life. I walk the line. Day in and Day out this is what I do...I train, eat quality food, I insist on 8 hours of sleep a night, I do cardio, I shave my bodyhair off, I can give a sh-t about the Superbowl or World Series...I cant name one guy on the White Sox but I can tell you last ASC's whole lineup and placings, I tan...I read BB magazines...I ramble on forums like getbig.com or pridenutrition.com, I love to help people train or prep. I love talking about who's who in this industry...I can have a 3 hour conversation at random about water or slow burning carbohydrates. I couldnt tell you thing one about what NFL team drafted what player...I study and read about physiology and the science of nutrients in my spare time because I want to and the only thing I can guarantee to those who dont do what I do...is that they will never understand WHY.
(clearing throat...) Ya, heard!
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WTF???
Please tell me you are joking, player...
Tell me you are being humorous...
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No he isn't, little slut-boy made his rounds this weekend and now is feeling sorry for himself
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my bad, BIG-slut boy
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Hopefully she won't call you at all, GetBigger...
'Weights BEFORE Dates!' Say it over and over again...write it down if you have to.
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Well it's gonna be one F**KING HELL OF A BACK WORKOUT tonight being I have a little EXTRA MOTIVATION.......which I gotta leave for. I'll get back to you later.
>:(
See, that's why I said I wish you lived closer, here in LA. We would go get a few slices of meatlovers pizza, no double that, and I would even share our depression by indulging in some Cold Stone ice cream... :)
What did you think I had in mind, playa?! ;D
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Shiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt! Ni--a pleeeease! We all know L.A. aint got nothing on Chicago when it comes to PIZZA or any food for that matter.
Chicago has the best food in the world. We have water just as good as Dasani or Evian with a twist of the faucet anytime. We have scorching hot summers, cold snowy winters, crisp cool colorful falls and warm lively springs. We have the best skyline, downtown nightlife, we have beaches and culture to rival N.Y.C.
We have everything everyother major city has and then some. We have the best of all worlds. WORD!
Chicago is my home...my headquaters. God HIMSELF even parties in Chicago. I never even like leaving it. There is nothing I love more than hanging out or training at different gyms all across the city from the north to the south to the east to the west sides talkin gym politics and BB politics.
The smell of the 'Taste of Chicago' in late June. Laying out in the sun at 31st street beach. Italian lemondae at Mario's on Taylor st. Chicago is 'TheBlockHeads' playground...I cant wait to serve this city....
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"weights before dates" HUH? Well I guess you get more action F**king the lying leg curl than you do with your old lady. That's cool. Hell if I were to dedicate my entire being to a sport I would at least be good at it. Get Bigger sounds like you need to practice what you preach. Sorry she never called you I guess she thought it should "get bigger" for her to stick around. Bodybuilders are the by far the most out of touch with reality people I have ever met. In fact I know bodybuilders who have dieted for shows and still don't have the pysique I do and thats just pathetic. Work your ass off and have no other ambitions and I still look better. D on't believe me, well sorry it's true. I have decided to cease my idea of being a bodybuilder and focus on fitness modeling cause most bodybuilders are ugly, bloated, bald guys covered in acne. Since I have the genetics and look to model I feel that it is the most appropriate decision. I don't need someone to tell me and support me I know I got it all, the rest of you wannabes and dreamers, just keep it up you will never have what I do. Later.
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That doesnt sound like 'lil Joel' at all...
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The only thing that is little was you BlockHead, that is on stage of course.
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"weights before dates" HUH? Well I guess you get more action F**king the lying leg curl than you do with your old lady. That's cool. Hell if I were to dedicate my entire being to a sport I would at least be good at it. Get Bigger sounds like you need to practice what you preach. Sorry she never called you I guess she thought it should "get bigger" for her to stick around. Bodybuilders are the by far the most out of touch with reality people I have ever met. In fact I know bodybuilders who have dieted for shows and still don't have the pysique I do and thats just pathetic. Work your ass off and have no other ambitions and I still look better. D on't believe me, well sorry it's true. I have decided to cease my idea of being a bodybuilder and focus on fitness modeling cause most bodybuilders are ugly, bloated, bald guys covered in acne. Since I have the genetics and look to model I feel that it is the most appropriate decision. I don't need someone to tell me and support me I know I got it all, the rest of you wannabes and dreamers, just keep it up you will never have what I do. Later.
Ummmm, marshy did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? I agree Block, this sounds more like "NoMeatheadz" then our precious little marshmallow.
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Coming soon.........My Bodybuilding Manifesto
You will realize the demise of your doings...
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Coming soon.........My Bodybuilding Manifesto
You will realize the demise of your doings...
my doings???
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Well Beast great screen name. How did you get it, or is it just another self-proclaimation. You know most Beasts are hairy Jen, does that mean......?? I understand you have issues with White Marshmallows, so would you prefer if I were more more of the Hersey bar than me.
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your right you do not need steroids
but this might be what is keeping you back
www.plasticsurgery.org
Hey Jen check it out
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I'm talking to Marshmallow on the phone right now...
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Yep, good observation, I have no boobs when I am dieted...see boobs are all fat and when I get lean I lose my fat and therefore my boobs get smaller. Sorry I don't want to go under the knife just for Figure Competitons but thanks for reminding me that I am flat ::)
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Yo what up Fools? Who is on my screen name? I used my buddy MeatHead;s name to post. I want to say me or MeatHeat should not be held responsible for this, sh*t I knoe MeatHead wouldn't say that , in fact he even likes Beast her will never admit it
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getbigger is owned
How am I owned Bast? WTF are you talking about? He has no f**king idea what the hell hes talking about when it comes to me.......and I am owned?
You got about as much of a clue of whats going on here as you do picking out shirts ::)
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Hahahaha! Bast is my nugga! He surfs around on get.big posting here and there an occasionally makes it to the 'Ask Jennifer...' thread talks a little shit and POOF...he's gone for 2 or 3 weeks. Hahahahaha!
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Hahahaha! Bast is my nugga! He surfs around on get.big posting here and there an occasionally makes it to the 'Ask Jennifer...' thread talks a little shit and POOF...he's gone for 2 or 3 weeks. Hahahahaha!
You have him all wrong, he is actually on this thread all the time just waiting to make a cute remark so I notice him...just one of my many stalkers
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You have him all wrong, he is actually on this thread all the time just waiting to make a cute remark so I notice him...just one of my many stalkers
haha Yes! When are we getting married?
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haha Yes! When are we getting married?
Where's my ring??
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Naaaa...neither one of you's want to get married...trust and believe TheBlockHead on that one...
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Hello! Well I had a pretty good weekend and had some pictures taken. I'm exactly 4 weeks out from my first show in these pictures. No, I haven't started tanning so I am still horribly white. Again, any comments and suggestions are welcome. I'm still about 127 but have tightened up a little, I've been doing a track workout once a week which I think has helped with that. Also I really think the 1/2 serving of creatine has filled me out a little and helped me maintain muscle size.
I am still at 75 G's of carbs a day with 1-2 higher carb days a week (150-225), my routine has stayed pretty much the same and I probably won't change anything until the last week. I'll stay at 3 times a week cardio for this first show and maybe up it going into Junior Nationals...just depends on how I m looking.
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hi jennifer,your looking good,well on target!keep up the good work!i know the diets hard but it will be all worth it when your arms are raised in VICTORY!!!
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You should see her when she is out/about...
I never ever seen so many guys heads turn and eyes 'getbig' when she works a room...she stands out like a sore thumb. Like a woman among little girls. It's amusing to see women look at her w/ a little mixture of fear/confusion/and jealousy.
She even physically walks around a room like she is on stage. Ever see the movie 'Born in East L.A.?' In the beginning of the movie that red-head w/ that green dress walks the streets of L.A. and traffic is stopping and heads are spinning? That's HER!
Maybe its the muscles...I dont know. Maybe because she carries/conducts herself like she is already a IFBB Pro figure competitor and she wears it on her sleeve and screams it loud and proud for the whole world to see. Whatever it is...it's definitley something to witness and an impressive sight to see.
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Definitely coming together nicely.
Nice shape overall.
Fine tuning point I can see are:
Lower lat tie in-seated rows to your belly button or lower, chins using a V-bar pulling to your belly button- this will bring your waist in even tighter and kind of fill in the gap between your hips and upper lats-this will give you a more complete look.
Triceps- your arms look great from the front(biceps) but your triceps need a little more long head to fill in from the back-close grip benches and lying tricep extensions should do the trick.
Keep working those hamstrings and the area around your medial knee area will fill in(noticeable gap both left and right leg.
Hope this helps,
Phil
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Phil, thanks for the comments...a few questions though.
Lower lat tie in-seated rows to your belly button or lower, chins using a V-bar pulling to your belly button- this will bring your waist in even tighter and kind of fill in the gap between your hips and upper lats-this will give you a more complete look.
Yeah, this is right on the money about my physique, my tie-ins have always been really high and I have tried to manipulate my lifting this year (close grip pull-ups, lat pulls...) to bring them down. I'm guessing your second recommendation is supposed to be lat pulls using a V-bar?
Triceps- your ams look great from the front(biceps) but your triceps need a little more long head to fill in from the back-close grip benches and lying tricep extensions should do the trick.
My tricpes have always seemed broken to me, they are strong but don't have a nice line...what is a lying tricep extension? My guess is with a dumbbell, behind the head.
Keep working those hamstrings and the area around your medial knee area will fill in(noticeable gap both left and right leg.
What does that mean?
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ryan, gb and block-thank you for the compliments.
Block, as usual you over-estimate me (but I appreciate it:)) I just have self-confidence which many people unfortunately lack.
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Check your email, I have posted answers there.
Phil
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I have to concur w/ Phil about some of his assessments. Still...a HUGE difference between those pics and the last ones that were taken at Elston 3 weeks ago. Your waist looks alot smaller(more narrow). You look a lot more detailed and it is obvious everything is falling into place.
I see where Phil is going w/ your lower-lats. I believe once upon a time...in China, I may even told you that. Close-grip pulldowns bringing it down to your lower-rib cage or mid-stomach. I wish you can use a pullover machine(Nautilus)...that would help.
The critique on the triceps I dont agree with too much plus I wouldnt have you do any close-grip benches or any type of presses FLAT. Your front delts tend to be very over-powering and I believe it gets incorporated with all your pressing movements. Your front delts have the potential to over-develop which isnt so much of a bad thing but then you have to play catch up to balance out the side/rear delt. I'd focus more on REAR delt and avoid anything that will work the front delts...for now. Rear delts and side delts.
Hamstring work I will concur w/ Phil again for complete seperation with the front of your leg and the back. Your legs are your best bodypart if you ask me...legs/delts/arms. I think...I could be wrong I think you hold just a little water or fatty deposits in the back of your legs but see now I am being nitpicky. Your a champion though, and a true champion leaves absolutley nothing to chance. Nothing.
Keep it up w/ your sprints/plyo training. Now I have no room to talk for it is true TheBlockHead needs all kinds of work and improvments tomake and this is bold comming from the mouth of this cowboy but I concur again with you possibly upping your cardio for Jr. Nationals...maybe by 10 minutes added to each duration you normally do now OR 10-15 minutes of light-moderate cardio right after your weight-training sessions and keep what cardio you are doing now...the same. Or both...10 minutes added plus 10-15 minutes after each weight training session. Use the stair master after each workout if you go with the '10-15minutes after theory'.
Remember...TheBlockHead always got your back!
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I agree with Blockhead as far as avoiding flat style pressing movements, you will seein the example pictures I sent to you that they are being done on an incline bench, I believe that your overall balance will be better with more tricep work. Just focus on control and isolation of you tricep and you can avoid too much front delt involvement.
You will do well, you have made great improvements to your physique.
Phil
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Thanks for that email phil, I liked the pictures-at least I can understand them! Well I have back today so I will try those pull-ups, they look pretty hard though. This is a typical routine for me on back day:
Pull-ups (this week I am on 4 sets of 8)
Close grip Lat Pulls
Seated Low Row
DB Row or Bent over Barbell row
Good Mornings or Back Hypers
Let me know if you think I should change anything up, obviously the Pull-Ups I will change to the crazy ones although I doubt I will be able to do 4 sets of 8 of them.
I rarely do any flat bench training, though every once in awhile I sneak in some flat bench reps to see where my strength is. Also, I normally do quads before hams on leg day and this week I'll switch it up so I can hit my hams hard. As I lean out I don't think separation in my hams will be too much of a problem.
And yes Block I know you told me the same thing...I've been working on it but it is my genetics and I suppose no matter what I do my tie-ins will be higher then most.
Thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate it ;)
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If I HAD to say something I would add a wide grip pulldown, just stretch the f**k out of your lats--or just make sure you get those FOUR sets in of wide grip pull-ups in fo sho. Get a spot, train hard or go home. I train like thickness and width are two seperate workouts so my back workout is pretty intense......
2 warms-ups behind the neck pulldowns.
wide grip behind the neck lat pulls 3x10-12
wide grip front lat pulls 3 sets
close reverse grip front lat pulls 4 sets
t bar rows 3 sets
db rows 4 sets
deadlifts 1 warm up plus 3 sets
Back is like legs, big enough to just pound the s**t out of it. I don't think people blast back hard enough IMO. But, thats just me. WTF do I know.....
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I feel so left out here. Let me break down my usual BACK routine...
My favorite BACK training gym has to be my gym...Pumps Muscle Station on the southside/Chicago. Only gym in the city I know of with an old school NAUTILUS PULLOVER machine...this is my typical 6 weeks out from a show type routine...
Nautilus Pullover: *warmup w/ 70lbs for 10 reps* *warmup w/ 90lbs for 10 reps* 1st set...150lbs for 12, 2nd set 180lbs for 10 and 200lbs for 6-8reps...to complete utter failure.
Reverse Grip Pulldowns: *warmup w/ 120lbs for 8reps* 1st set 180lbs for 12reps, 2nd set 225lbs for 8-10reps...3rd set 240lbs for 6-8reps.
Barbell Rows: *warmup 135lbs for 10* 1st set 225lbs for 10, 2nd set 315lbs for 8reps then 365lbs for 5-7reps.
Pulley Rows: *warmup 180lbs for 8reps* 1st set 240lbs for 12 reps, 2nd set 275lbs for 10-12 then 305lbs for 8-10reps.
Hyperextensions: Hold a 10lb plate at my chest for 20-25reps.
Rack Deadlifts. 225 for 10reps, 315 for 10 reps, 405 for 8-10reps, 495 for 6 reps 545lbs for 4-6 reps.
I'll hit you up later w/ an e-mail GetBigger...holla!
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I haven't heard from fitchic lately, anybody know if she is around?
Oh and gb-I don't do wide grips on anything anymore because of my high tie-ins, I try to keep a medium to narrow grip for all my back exercises in hopes that my lower back will widen out.
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Hmm.....wonder where my tie-ins are?
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Hmm.....wonder where my tie-ins are?
Get a little leaner, take some back pics and we can tell you:)
Soooo, I did my back workout yesterday and it kicked my butt! I can't remember the last time I was sore from a back workout, its great! I really enjoyed the pull-ups though they remind me of chin-ups, a little different but they are definitely easier then wide-grip pull-ups.
V-Grip Pull-ups: 4x8
Lat Pulldown: 80 (3 sets of 8 ) last set drop set 80/50/30
Bent-Over barbell row: 85 (4 sets of 8 )
Low Row: 80(1/8 ) 90(2/8 ) 100(1/7)
Back Hypers on one of those big balls-no weight: 12 12 15 15
I was a little tired going into it, I think the track workout Tuesday took it out of me and my dieting is slightly affecting my enrgy. Plus I stayed up to read a really good book...one of the reason I try and avoid reading good books when I am dieting! I NEED MY SLEEP!!!
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The workout looks good. I find it necessary to really get a good stretch on the bottom of the movement on the Vbar chins. At the top, pause and sortof pull myself forward (toward my belly button) using my lats. Try to take your arms out of the motion as much as possible, think of your hands as hooks to hold yourself in place, your lats should feel like they are doing all the work.
You will be hard to beat. You could show now and win most regional shows. National Level-damn right!!
Phil
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Your darn tootin', Phil...
She will be hard to beat. It's hard for me to imagine other girls who will meet her on stage with the same dedication, drive and determination this girl has.
As far as her BACK routine goes...I wish she can use a Nautilus Pullover. That would take the biceps/arms right out of BACK training and put the stress in her lower lats. She can hold it statically, work a slow negative the works!
The Cowan Vehicle will be PLOWING right through Jr. Nationals and I will fkn be there! I have another buddy competing in the Men's BB so its going to be a great weekend for me.
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A pullover unit would be awesome for Jennifer to use, Hammer Strength makes one too, I like the Nautilus more but it seems they are too find these days.
We need her to slap some color on to really get the impact in her pictures. It would be great for her confidence too, not that she lacks there but just for sh*ts and giggles.
Phil
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The Hammer pullover cant even be in the same category as the old school chain link built like a tank Nautilus Machine. Just cant even be in the same sentence together...
You know what Phil? TheBlockHead, here OWNS one. I think my gym on the S.S/Chicago is the only gym I am aware of that has one. Jennifer here is more than welcome to have complete access to it but my gym is a little out of her way. In offseason or something...I reckon she should make a trek out there maybe twice a month to train BACK simply to use that machine. Shit...I myself make out of the way trek's to different gyms if they have one particular piece of equipment I like but dont have immediate access to. Then again...I'm insane in the membrane like that...know what I'm sayin?
Yea...once she drops her water and her color is on...she will look even 10x's better. I know she'll be a contender in the money spots this year...I can't see that NOT happening. Holla!
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Believe or not, there is a Nautilus Pullover unit right here in the desert camp I am working at, 100km from the closest city, in the middle of the desert. That is one thing the military does for its troops, it does put gyms in the most remote places. Tons of weight, decent equipment. They throw nothing away, just repair it and keep it in service. I'm not in the military but work as a contractor, I do get to use the facility though.
We can't let Jen get too hardlooking, but then again who is to say what the figure judges really look for? I can't figure it out from show to show.
Phil
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I haven't heard from fitchic lately, anybody know if she is around?
Oh and gb-I don't do wide grips on anything anymore because of my high tie-ins, I try to keep a medium to narrow grip for all my back exercises in hopes that my lower back will widen out.
Yo Jen! I am here. Been X-mely BZ with work and schoo, exams and stuff...
Anyway, have to tune in on this subject since back training is my favorite after legs...My routine is very similar to yours girlfriend with some slight differences:
1. WG Lat pulldowns (front). I do ascending rep drop sets with this one (4 total). I sometimes do pullups to mix it up.
2. T-Bar or Bent Over BB Row (mixing straight and reverse) (3 sets)
3. Reverse Lat pulldowns
4. Single arm DB Rows (3 sets) mixing with seated cable rows
5. Reverse flys
I also do 4 sets of deadlifts on my leg day to hit hams which follows the next day on Tuesday after I do back on Monday.
Extension is something extra and if I am not too exhausted by the time I am done, I may do a couple fo sets of those to stretch the muscles....
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Hey girl, any current pics to post? How far out is the show now? Would love to see your progress...
OK, gotta go finish this damn school project....getting late...Chat with ya all soon...Don't come to check up on ya lately, swamped! Tomorrow hopefully we'll have some nice discussions! Until then, stay focused!
PEACE!
~FitChic
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Wow, you boys really get excited about the Nautilus machine...only bber's ::)
Block, I may be able to make it over there rarely but with gas at over $3 a gallon I don't know if I can afford it! Right now I am still trying to see if I can make it to the New York show, with the host hotel costing like $200 a night and having to stay there 3 nights I may have to sleep in the lobby if I want to compete!
My back is still a little sore, I'm really glad you told me about those Pull-Ups they obviously did something I wasn't use to. I know I should slap on some color, especially because I am using a new product this year but the thought of tanning myself for no good reason is not appealing at all! The whole process is just so smelly and messy.
Fitchic-good to hear from you. Hopefully your classes are going well, they must almost be finished? Well good luck if you do have finals coming up. Your back workout is definitely longer then mine...I do reverse flys on shoulder day but even still you do a lot of exercises! You've never posted any pics, have you?
I probably won't take pics for another week or so, the last ones up there are from last Saturday so pretty recent. Got my bodyfat tested yesterday morning by the guy I almost always go to...9% so I was happy with that. I just think my problem will be maintaining as opposed to getting too lean. It's hard to say though, I was looking at pics last night from the Olympia and it is crazy how small all those girls waists look. I hope my suits will flatter my figure...keeping my fingers crossed.
3 WEEKS OUT...YEA
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Nice gains on the legs and delts Beast, makes your waist look narrower.
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Nice gains on the legs and delts Beast, makes your waist look narrower.
Thank you very much:)
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Only 2.5 weeks left...yea!
Ok, a question that I am guessing relates solely to genetics but someone may hav an idea. My back does not have the pretty V (on the upper portion) that many girls have...is there any way to help accentuate the V? Doubtful but I really want one:)
Here is an example of what I am talking about compared to my back
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you do you have it, you just need to lose water, and it'll show with a tan.
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I concur w/ my guy BAST...
It is just genetic as far as the one above had a more V and you have a little more curve in your upper-lats...which is fine. You have the same detail...you just need to lose the water and the color will accuentuate it even more...you'll lose the water though...holla!
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It will show to a greater degree when show ready, but to really get that *identical* look you just need more muscular development.
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The Pretty V thingy=trapezius!
Yes, you have it!!
When you loose the water, your's will be better than her's in the picture!! Your's is already thicker and your rear delts are better too!!
Phil
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The Pretty V thingy=trapezius!
You don't like my advanced terminology? ;D Thanks for the responses-I didn't even think about the water aspect though even when I lose the water I probably won't like the shape of that muscle. Oh well, I don't think there is much I can do about it other then complain-which these days seems to be getting more frequent.
Thanks Phil for the added encouragement, I hope what you say is true...Jr's will be tough and I need all the size I can get.
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Only 2.5 weeks left...yea!
Ok, a question that I am guessing relates solely to genetics but someone may hav an idea. My back does not have the pretty V (on the upper portion) that many girls have...is there any way to help accentuate the V? Doubtful but I really want one:)
Here is an example of what I am talking about compared to my back
When do you that pose it looks as though you're a bit hunched over. Try to pull back your scapula, and inhale deeply when you do the pose.
Pulling back the scapula will cause your upper-back muscles (rear delts, infraspinatus, traps) to contract, giving you a more defined look in that area.
Inhaling deeply will cause your ribcage to rise, which in turn will give you a more statuesque appearance.
Unfortunately, clavicle shape is genetic. Not to worry, Arnold had sloping shoulders and things worked out pretty well for him.
Good luck.
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When do you that pose it looks as though you're a bit hunched over. Try to pull back your scapula, and inhale deeply when you do the pose.
Thank You! This is exactly what I needed. It's like when I look at these pictures I know something is wrong but I don't know how to correct it and unfortunately I don't have anyone with a ton of experience correcting these little things.
Really, I appreciate this because every bit helps and I know I will need every little bit on stage.
Once I get my new suits to try on I will post some more pics that are hopefully improved.
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Glad I could help. Are you doing the fitness nationals in NYC on July, 15? I live in Manhattan and will be going to that show. I know Jodi is competing.
Here's Dina doing the same pose. Notice her elbows are in closer than yours.
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Dina's physique is to die for.
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I think they should just do a rear lat spread instead of throwing those elbows way out there, then maybe a rear double bi.....ahhh yeah.
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Then it will be considered ' womens bodybuilding ', player.
She looks great! Major improvements.
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IMO her smile is one of her best assets. It radiates warmth. Your thigh sweep looks great too in this shot.
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IMO her smile is one of her best assets. It radiates warmth. Your thigh sweep looks great too in this shot.
Thanks again:) When (and if) I gt my suits before my show I would love for you to critique my poses and give me any feedback. I have been working on keeping my arms in and shoulders back in my back pose but it is hard to know if I am getting the desired look or if I am cocking my shoulder blades back...I need someone to take some pics.
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Take it home with the rear double.....
;D
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Don't know how everyone else is doing but it has been a rough couple of days. I've just been so agitated and moody (more so then usual getbigger, I know what you will say). Actually gb, you were in a "great" mood last time I heard from you-things better now?...did you plant all those trees?
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Take it home with the rear double.....
;D
maybe one day...maybe one day
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I don't think I ever resented my ex for the food he ate...but I hated it last year when he would buy some for me, just in case. We got into major fights about him not respecting my choices (I am sure escalated by the cutting) but this year was much different after he understood I didn't want a frosty or blizzard. I don't mind cooking food that I can't eat or being around it, I am not really tempted. Last week was difficult and getbigger hit the nail on the head about the time of the month (which is crap since I am so lean I shouldn't be getting it anymore...) but for the most part if I do start to struggle I try and make something up that I think will be really good. For the record I haven't discovered anything that worthwhile though I have found a few "interesting" combos.
I do agree that you should try and be with someone who understands your lifestyle and if that is another competitor then so be it. The problem I see with competitors who date is they get at each others throats because of the dieting and it is hard for them to let things go. One partner will "critique" the other, or tell them they are doing something wrong, or tell them what shows to do and how to train and diet and so on. It seems like it causes more tension because one partner is telling the other what to do and they can't take it constructively.
For me, now that I am single I don't have to worry about what my boyfriend in thinking and if I am not paying enoguh attention to our relationship. It is sad because he was a great person and friend but right now it was not the right situation for us.
Maybe I am selfish or too into my own things like nomeatheadz says, but I think at this stage in my life I should be. It seems like if I don't do the things I want to do now and accomplish the things that I think are important I will never be happy. Maybe my ex wasn't the right person or maybe it wasn't the right time but for me it isn't about what the other person does but how much we respect each other and how well we work together.
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I don't think I ever resented my ex for the food he ate...but I hated it last year when he would buy some for me, just in case. We got into major fights about him not respecting my choices (I am sure escalated by the cutting) but this year was much different after he understood I didn't want a frosty or blizzard.
See you wouldn't have a problem with me cause I wouldn't buy you anything. :P
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See you wouldn't have a problem with me cause I wouldn't buy you anything. :P
How charming, I am really excited about our engagement now :-*
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Hahaha! That's the BAST I like to see...mofo cracks a BlockHead up!
LiLPoppaPete...I feel ya on that one let me tell you. That hit real REAL close to home.
I feel you on your point of view as well, Jen...know matter what happens us meathedz/fitnissgirlz/figure girlz gotta keep on rockin in the free world and rock on with our bad-selves!
'the other people' who dont and will never understand and look down upon or is jealous of or doesnt approve of MOTIVATE me to love this stuff twice as strong!
Last week...the wifes MOTHER(my in law) told me...'life is too short for all that BB stuff...) all because I came over to use her treadmill and she saw me pop a couple 'Dialed In' by Pride Nutrition...gave me a half ass lecture about how this and that is bad for me then she said it...'life is just too damn short for all that BB stuff you do...live a little...)
Know what? I had the best most productive cardio session that day and an awesome leg-workout the next day...those words coming from her...just totally motivated me to be MORE than who I am...it motivated me to love this game MORE! There is nothing, to me, worse in life than being ordinary. Holla!
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Yea see I like 'LilPoppaPete'...he hears a BlockHead...yaknowatI'msayin???
BB/Fit/Fig is a selfish sport/lifestyle. I made no secret of that. It doesnt mean we are bad people who are doomed to a life of being lonely. It means that it just takes a certain type of person to be compatible with us...bottom line.
Still...I do love this lifestyle and the people I've met through it. I love it so much. We're not doing anything wrong...just doing our thing. Thats it...just doing our thing.
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Hey all, gb I have no idea what you meant by that...
Anyway-I got my suits yesterday and have a few new pictures. My suits are not stoned yet, I am sending them back today so she can finish them. FYI-I have started water loading and upped my sodium so I know I am a little thick.
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damn! very nice..
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Oh and I am nervous that the bottoms are too small in the front...what are your opinions. Hopefully I will be much tigher next week and more importantly for Jr's but they are small....
Plus I still have to work on that back pose, I can't get my arms in without messing up my lats :-[
Here is my 1-piece
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Oh and I am nervous that the bottoms are too small in the front...what are your opinions. Hopefully I will be much tigher next week and more importantly for Jr's but they are small....
Plus I still have to work on that back pose, I can't get my arms in without messing up my lats :-[
Here is my 1-piece
The suits look great. My first car was a '68 Mustang of that same color. Awesome.
Physically, you look great, too. I'm both impressed and aroused.
You definitely look better in that back pose. Although, I think you still could be lengthening your spine more. Try pushing down from your heels and think about lengthening all the way through the top of your head.
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I see this girl on a regular basis so sometimes its hard for a BlockHead to tell if shes making improvements but I have to say...her back is way more detailed and her poses look stronger and standout-ish...
Very impressive...you'll be hard to beat.
Quit it with the 'I'm aroused' ThinLizzy...seriously nobody cares...cant frickin stand lipstick le-bians...I seriously cant...just tell her she looks great and give constructive criticism.
Yo! I have your Advair...holla!
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BlockHead,
Who you playin guy. That is what you like to be called right? If your old lady didn't have you on house arrest, you be up in the Beast's ass. That's the reason why I backed off. I figured all the jerkin off you do at FFO on the forums over her might cause jealousy. Cause all you do is ask me when and if i talk to her, live though yourself, not me. Holla.. p.s. I am returning to the iron game, yes it's true. But not pre-madonna bodybuilding. I am talking real lifting, you know for men: POWERLIFTING where only the STRONG survive keep pumping those dumbells. I'll be lifing quater ton plus lifts all day long while you look at what you call a physique. Keep dreaming, remember I can do it all; a truely gifted athlete. Holla guy!!!!!!!!!!!! just playing :)
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Quit it with the 'I'm aroused' ThinLizzy...seriously nobody cares...cant frickin stand lipstick le-bians...I seriously cant...just tell her she looks great and give constructive criticism.
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Worry about yourself, a-hole. I'm a guy. Thin Lizzy is a band. You stupid sh*t.
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Thin Lizzy, he is just trying to mess with you-he actually told me last week that your name was a band. I was saying how much I appreciated your help and was wondering if you competed (refering to you as a woman) he then corrected me and said it was a band. He just wants to start stuff because he thinks it is funny. ::)
Anyway, thanks for the comments. I actually spoke with my the woman doing my suits (I sent her pics) and I spoke about the small issues I had with the bottom of the two piece and I that I thought both suits were too wide at the top of my butt and didn't do it justice. She, surprisingly, completely agreed,plus had a few other adjustments-she didn't realize how much bigger I had gotten since last year and she is having them remade. I thinks she wants them to be as perfect as I do which I really appreciate. Right now they are ok but a suit can make or break a place and I will take all the help I can get:)
Thanks again for all your help, I've really tried to keep your comments in my mind when I am posing.
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you look great Beast, How will you celebrate after your win?
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You look great, when you drop the water.....I wish I could be there to see it, you are gonna look fantastic.
It looks like you need to drop the level of your shoulders in that back pose, your traps are bunching up. Keep your lats flared and bring your shoulders down, this will smooth the contour of your traps. Watch yourself in the mirror from the front and you will see your trap line flow out.
Great job!!
Phil
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You look fantastic, you're hard work is really showing off - be very proud! In all honesty, I think you look your best in the pictures you've posted before when you weren't dieted down!
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you look great Beast, How will you celibrate after your win?
Thanks for the positive outlook:) Regardless of if I win or not I won't be doing much celebrating after my show, I have another one in two weeks so I will be able to cheat that night and I am going out for Mexican food the next day with my mom for Mother's day...then I'll be back on track for May 27.
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Thanks for all the comments and feedback. I defnitely need to relax those traps! They look out of control, I have been practicing that as well as lengthening my back. I'm nervous my back will be too detailed and big once I drop my water but only time will tell.
Also the girl making my suits is remaking them! She saw the pictures and didn't think the bottoms looked right on my butt, near the top they should be taken in. Plus I am not wearing them exactly right. She wants them to be perfect which I am very happy about. She hadn't realized I really did put on about 8 pounds of muscle since last year and was going off pictures from last season. I should get then Friday...so I am keeping my fingers crossed!
cshep- I wish I could do well in shows without dieting down! Thanks for thinking I still look good when I think otherwise :)
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You sexy animal you.
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2 days to go!!!
Well, I won't be wearing my new suits (they were either going to be rushed to me or I could have her upgrade them with more rhinestones at no extra cost so I choose the later). I'm actually kindof excited about wearing my old suits as it will be easies to see the improvements from last year.
Thanks everyone for all the support and help-I will let you all know how it goes :D
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Good luck Jennifer!
Kick some butt this weekend and let us know how you do after it's
all over!!
John
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Whoops, I meant to wish her luck I see I am too late >:(
What show is she doing this weekend?
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gotta be honest here i just saw the pics and i expected to see a girl with a lot more muscle, for a girl who calls herself the "Beast" you don't carry a whole lot of muscle, if you're natural than that explains it, you are cute though.
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SARCASM in the hizzzouuusssee!!!!
She is natural. She's doing a 'Natural' show this weekend in Peoria, Illinois basically as a 'prepper' before she does the Illinois State(NPC) in two weeks and Jr. Naturals in June.
Good to have you here, John! See you at the Gateway the 27th.
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2 days to go!!!
Well, I won't be wearing my new suits (they were either going to be rushed to me or I could have her upgrade them with more rhinestones at no extra cost so I choose the later). I'm actually kindof excited about wearing my old suits as it will be easies to see the improvements from last year.
Thanks everyone for all the support and help-I will let you all know how it goes :D
Go get'm, Beast.
Too bad about the suits. I thought they were hot.
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OK Jen! Can't wait to hear how you did...Hope you rocked the show girl!
Post some pics as well.
Relax and enjoy your weekend I am sure it was a pretty exhausting couple of days for you not to mention the prepping process...
Sincerely,
~FitChic
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Thank you everyone for your comments and emails! It is nice that you are all so supportive.
I had a good weekend and the show went well. I was in teh medium class, which I won but I didn't win the overall. The head judge spoke with me later to tell they couldn't decide if I was a figure competitor or bodybuilder and although the decision was hard they thought I was too lean and too developed so I didn't win the overall. At first I was upset but after we spoke I understood that I didn't meet their criteria and took it as a compliment. Going into this show I thought this may happen and it gives me more hope that I will meet the criteria for NPC shows. I did get a lot of practice with my posing and know that I still need to work on it.
Unfortunately the pictures aren't the greatest and if I get any better ones I will post them.
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Oh and I thought my conditioning and prep was pretty good. I felt pretty full though still a little bloated like I did last year going on stage. I'm not sure if that is from all the carbs or what. I definielty felt my prep was better this year. My color was MUCH improved as someone knew how to use dream tan and it made me appear quite a bit darker then in previous years and not greenish.
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Oh and I want to say CONGRATULATIONS to Swedish Viking (another getbigger) who was also in the show. You looked great and although you were pleased with your placing I think you deserved a little higher. It was great meeting you and good luck in the future-also I wiuld suggest trying trial carb-load runs in the months of your contest prep since your diet is a little wacky ;)
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Why thank you. I overheard that conversation you were having with the judge and my opinion on the subject(and I thought this earlier in the day as well), is that had that been any other contest, you would have won. I think the other competitors actually made you look quite a lot bigger and more muscular than you actually are(not saying your not muscular or anything...you get the point). The truth is that the other competitors were good but really not nearly as well developed as you and made you seem like a bodybuilder in comparison. Anyway, you and you're whole team very very nice and proffessional and it was fun talking to you guys. Keep it tight ass and keep working hard. If you don't mind helping me, I may recruit you into my contest prep advice team for the next show in 2 mos.
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You looked Great Beast.
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1] You look very good....and yes....being 'too developed' for an NGA show is actually good. If you had the correct level of development for that federation you'd be a wash in the NPC...if you know what I mean ;)
2] Share the Dream Tan secret please.
3] Do you have any pics of who won the overall? I am just "curious".
4] Your presentation across the board is extremely good. Relaxed pose and front pose are literally perfect. In your quarter turn side shot your arms are a little too wide IMO.
5] Congrats :)
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Thanks! I appreciate the comments :)
The Dream Tan secret...well I had always heard such bad things about it so when I was ordering my tanning stuff this year I wasn't going to get it. I was going to buy Tammy Pies competition color but the shipping was too expensive for me to justify (over $20) and after emailing her about it I never heard back so I started looking at other companies products. I came across a dream tan product that is similar to Pro-Tan so I figured I would give it a shot but avoid the cream. When I was ordering I called and actually spoke with the owner who was really nice. He said I should really try the #2 (I think...its the reddish one) cream product-I told him that I didn't think judges liked it on Figure girls, he said he would throw in a sample for me to try.
I still wasn't going to use it but after applying their Pro-Tan-like product I was a little yellowish and I started to get nervous. Anyway I ran into a guy who said he puts the cream stuff on the night before and lets it sink in-I did a thin layer, wore long sleeves and pants to bed and in the morning much of it had rubbed off. I looked better but still not dark enough. I got to the show and my friend, who I found out loves Dream Tan, said I was no where near dark enough and said she was putting more on me and to trust her becaue she "had the touch." She didn't put a ton on my skin but rubbed it in well, going in semi-circular motions and giving finishing pats to it, she wore gloves (which probably isn't necessaary) and did it in good light. It didn't really smudge-I was careful not to touch anything but once she had applied and perfected the finish I looked 50% darker and better. She started with my back, then arms and legs- she rubbed in an upward motion, then downward and more circular. I made her promise to help me the next few times:)
I agree that my arms are too wide-it was my first time trying that pose on stage. At Jr's we will have to keep our arms by our sides so I should really be practicing that pose. I feel that I need to peak my shoulders more on the front and back and I haven't gotten that perfected on stage yet.
This is the only picture I have of the overall winner at this point, she is on the left with the blonde hair and bright blue suit-once I get a better one I will post it.
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Viking, thanks for the support! I was getting tired of telling people I wasn't nor ever had been a bodybuilder on Saturday. Oh, the Pride guys really liked talking to you as well-they love hearing about other peoples nutritional choices and your thought process is definitely unique.
I would love to answer or help in any way possible with your contest prep. Just let me know where you want to start and where you really want help.
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Take it as a compliment, yo! The truth is you were OVERQUALIFIED at that show...take it as what it was...a prepper for the bigger shows. I betcha lots of girls were complaining about you behind your back...trust/belive that!
I agree w/ 'CQ'...in your quater turn...your arms were a tad bit extended...maybe bring them in closer to yourbody...just maybe by 6-8 inches or so...just a tad. Then again what do I know?
They knew they couldnt allow you to win bec ause it wouldnt be fair to the other girls who also worked to be there...to allow you to win would mean girls would get frustrated and probably not compete next year and their criteria in what they are looking for is different...they wouldnt want you to start a trend...thats what the NPC is for. It's like if 'Dave Reily' competed in that show in Rockford 2 Saturdays ago...see what I'm saying? Just overqualified...you didnt belong there. Now bring it home the 27th and the 17/18th.
Holla!
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Congrats on your class win Jennifer! Like I mentioned to you before, you have to take the judging in stride at some of the contests. I guest posed at that show last year and I thought the judging was off. The judges took FOREVER to come up with a decision when it really wasn't that hard. I was training a girl (in bodybuilding not figure) who should have won her class at that show and they placed her second to a girl who didn't have half her development. She talked to the head judge after the show and he said that she was placed second because she was holding her hands wrong in the double biceps pose (which she wasn't by the way). I think it was a great warm-up for you and you learned some tricks about putting on the Dream Tan which will be a valuable lesson for you for next week and the Jr. Nationals. Keep it up!! :)
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Big John Hansen in the house!
John is right, Jen...
This show was strictly meant as a prepper and practice. Take it as a stage expierence and Dream Tan expierence show...you met Swedish Viking and made some contacts and was nothing but a learning expierence...thats it!
From what you and John say...the judges there seem a little bit vauge and non-credible.
Let's train together soon...and that reminds me...
SWEDISH VIKING...I congratulate you for competing last weekend...kudos to you, brother. I think its great to turn to Jennifer for contest prep and help...make no mistake here...she may compete in figure but trust me she knows what male BB's need as far as training/nutrition goes...she knows her stuff and wont let you down. She will be on your a$$ day in and day out and will be damned if she lets you come in out of shape or not at your best. Hit me up if you need other advice but I dont think you will in the NGA. If you are REAL, SwedishViking...you will train WITH her...I double triple dog dare you to train legs with her...if you do though let me give you a few...just a few tips:
1) Arrive ON TIME! You dont want to feel the wrath/fury of the Cowan vortex...I have and believe me...I dont like it!
2) Be ready to bring your 'A-Game'...get at least 10 hours of sleep and get a qulaity meal or two in you and psyche yourself out beforehand...be ready to squat till you drop and leg press every 45lb plate in the gym...be ready to be pushed harder than you ever thought possible.
3) Under no circumstance...do NOT suggest to use the inner/outer thigh machine(s)...for they have no place in leg training with this girl. You will take a severe OWNING if you even suggest it in a joking or sarcastic way.
4) Do not plan anything for the next 3 days...it might take that long to recover...and bring some handy supplies with you...ammonia sticks, knee wraps, chalk, and a squat suit if you have one...also...bring your BALLS!
Good luck to you!
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Big John Hansen in the house!
will you please stop saying that?
thanks.
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My guy BAST in the hissssssooouuuuussseee!!!!
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Is it 1997 again? ;D
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Big John Hansen in the house!
John is right, Jen...
This show was strictly meant as a prepper and practice. Take it as a stage expierence and Dream Tan expierence show...you met Swedish Viking and made some contacts and was nothing but a learning expierence...thats it!
From what you and John say...the judges there seem a little bit vauge and non-credible.
Let's train together soon...and that reminds me...
SWEDISH VIKING...I congratulate you for competing last weekend...kudos to you, brother. I think its great to turn to Jennifer for contest prep and help...make no mistake here...she may compete in figure but trust me she knows what male BB's need as far as training/nutrition goes...she knows her stuff and wont let you down. She will be on your a$$ day in and day out and will be damned if she lets you come in out of shape or not at your best. Hit me up if you need other advice but I dont think you will in the NGA. If you are REAL, SwedishViking...you will train WITH her...I double triple dog dare you to train legs with her...if you do though let me give you a few...just a few tips:
1) Arrive ON TIME! You dont want to feel the wrath/fury of the Cowan vortex...I have and believe me...I dont like it!
2) Be ready to bring your 'A-Game'...get at least 10 hours of sleep and get a qulaity meal or two in you and psyche yourself out beforehand...be ready to squat till you drop and leg press every 45lb plate in the gym...be ready to be pushed harder than you ever thought possible.
3) Under no circumstance...do NOT suggest to use the inner/outer thigh machine(s)...for they have no place in leg training with this girl. You will take a severe OWNING if you even suggest it in a joking or sarcastic way.
4) Do not plan anything for the next 3 days...it might take that long to recover...and bring some handy supplies with you...ammonia sticks, knee wraps, chalk, and a squat suit if you have one...also...bring your BALLS!
Good luck to you!
this sounds like a challenge to me. Were you at the show bty? I may just have to take up this challenge assuming I am invited to do so by the person in question...ahem. Of course, I only do full body workouts, she would have to be able to stick through that if I were forced to go through this seemingly impossible leg workout.
Anyway, cowan, I really don't need help with a lot until the very end. Like I said, I can get to the last week or so pretty well with no difficulties, but then I seem to do something weird at the last minute like a cooked food carb up in addition to ceasing all water consumption, and shit hits the fan. I haven't been 175lbs since I was in junior highschool.
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Excuse my rudeness, but I must say a couple of those other girls pretty much look like crap. They have no appearence of weight training. I hate to see figure in any federation turn like that. It is *not* a beauty pageant...muscles are a must.
Carry on.......
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Take it as a compliment, yo! The truth is you were OVERQUALIFIED at that show...take it as what it was...a prepper for the bigger shows. I betcha lots of girls were complaining about you behind your back...trust/belive that!
Agree 1000%
You looked like a thoroughbred racehorse in a field full of donkeys.
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You were the class of the competition. Totally outclassed the field. Time to move on to bigger and better shows.
You looked fantastic.
Phil
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Thank you everyone...although these may not be the nicest comments they definitely made me laugh out loud. The girl on my right (at the end) looked great, I have been helping her with her posing and it was her first show. She took second and really deserved it. I felt bad for one of the other girls because she had done beauty pagents in teh past and I am not sure she knew what she was in for. She had no idea how to pose and had actual swimming suits. I suppose I was impressed that she actually got on stage-it takes guts.
Other then that, the girls were all very nice and a few looked pretty good especially considering it was many of their first shows. Oh, this was also a "Pro-Qualifier" so the girl who won the overall now has her Pro-NGA card. I am actually very happy for her since I am guessing she will use it and I wouldn't.
If nothing else this show allowed me to try new things for my contest prep and meet some nice people. Monica Brant actually was a guest of the show last year (one of the reasons she got in trouble) though I suppose it is ironic since they don't want their girls to look like her.
Next week will be a tougher show and I feel ready for it. I CANNOT WAIT to get my new suits! Once I put my old ones on I remembered why I was so sick of them! They just don't fit quite right.
Thanks again for the encouragement, it has really helped keep me motivated. It is nice to know you have people in your corner-rooting for you.
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Oh and Bast...with Blockhead it is more like the mid-80's with his tapered workout pants and fanny pack ::)
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Don't hate! Just because I have tickets to see 'Warrant, Cinderella and Poison' June 24th...
Trust/Believe I'll be sportin a fanny pack...where els do I keep my wallet, phone, keys, tin of Skoal and money?
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Oh and beast, I just spoke with one of the judges-Holly(she works at my gym), and she said she had you for the win.
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Oh and Bast...with Blockhead it is more like the mid-80's with his tapered workout pants and fanny pack ::)
lol.......ouch
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Congrats on your class win Jennifer! Like I mentioned to you before, you have to take the judging in stride at some of the contests. I guest posed at that show last year and I thought the judging was off. The judges took FOREVER to come up with a decision when it really wasn't that hard. I was training a girl (in bodybuilding not figure) who should have won her class at that show and they placed her second to a girl who didn't have half her development. She talked to the head judge after the show and he said that she was placed second because she was holding her hands wrong in the double biceps pose (which she wasn't by the way). I think it was a great warm-up for you and you learned some tricks about putting on the Dream Tan which will be a valuable lesson for you for next week and the Jr. Nationals. Keep it up!! :)
John, Thanks sooo much for the feedback and support. I'm really happy that I have had the opportunity to meet you this year, you are definitely a person I am honored to have support me. I also heard from one of the promoters exactly what you were just saying about last year, that the judging seemed off-I suppose the supense of who you think should win and who does win is part of the game ::) Look forward to seeing you soon:)
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Viking, I would definitely do a leg workout with you...but I won't waste my time on a full body circuit ;D You can pick something else though. It would be the best to wait until my shows are over because I get a little nervous trying to push 300+ squatting when I am dieted and depleted (and I wouldn't want to dissappoint you).
Also, tell her thanks for putting me first-I really think the head judge had something against my size...oh well, you can't please them all!
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John, Thanks sooo much for the feedback and support. I'm really happy that I have had the opportunity to meet you this year, you are definitely a person I am honored to have support me. I also heard from one of the promoters exactly what you were just saying about last year, that the judging seemed off-I suppose the supense of who you think should win and who does win is part of the game ::) Look forward to seeing you soon:)
You're very welcome Jennifer! I plan on being at the Illinois next week and the Jr. Nationals in June so I'm looking forward to seeing you on stage. Your pictures look great from the Peoria show!!
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Know whats weird, LilPopaPete...I never really personally use that phrase. I dont know where it ever came from...I just use it alot when I write.
You can use it though...I dont mind. Holla! Feel free to POST with The BEAST and TheBlockhead at Pride Nutritions forums as well...www.pridenutritio n.com
Trust/Believe, brother!
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Word around the campfire says theres a big show Saturday...
Today is Monday. Why dont you break down how you will handle this week as far as carbs, water and training goes...
I got a full bottle of ProTan handy...know anyone who needs it? Holla!
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I'm so fing hungry and sick of water >:(
Other then that things are going good. I got up this morning and did 55 minutes of cardio...the most this year. It wasn't too bad but I hate doing circuits...they seem like such a waste of time.
As far as carbs/I am doing 50 today, 30 tomorrow and 0 on wednesday...until after I lift and then I will start loading. Wednesday after lifting I will have roughly 100 carbs (a banana and some raisons and probably a white potato), same in the morning/afternoon and then I will switch to complex carbs the rest of Thursday and Friday. It seemed to work well though I have never felt that shrinking feeling that people talk about when they carb up. Maybe the taraxatone will help. Most likely I will just take the taraxatone Firday afternoon/evening and maybe Saturday morning but if any of you have other suggestions let me know as I have never really used it.
I think my water went well last week but I am using the taraxatone to hopefully get just a hair tighter. I have been water loading since Thursday (2 gallons) which I am tired of and I go to 1 gallon on Thursday and 1/2 Gallon Friday stopping all drinking at roughly 5ish though maybe a little later.
Ok, well I am still hungry...oh and Blck I may stop by tomorrow to get that, could you please bring it with you??? Thanks.
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hey Jennifer just waned to let you know your an inspiration to my g/f and I shes training hard and really looks up to you. keep up the great work
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I'll bring it. No worries, mate!
I would use the taraxatone as directed on the bottle.
I think thats a good idea for you especially going into that particular show...plus you can make adjustments for the JR Nats...
It should help shed a little bit of extra water out of you. Just go strictly as the label says on the bottle. Holla!
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hey Jennifer just waned to let you know your an inspiration to my g/f and I shes training hard and really looks up to you. keep up the great work
Thank you, I really appreciate that...it makes the dieting a little easier:) Tell her to kick some a$$ in the gym!
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Beast as my getbig wife you're supposed to send me nude photos. :D
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My guy BAST is all up in the hizzzzouuuusssseee!!!!
Holla!
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Beast as my getbig wife you're supposed to send me nude photos. :D
you first :-*
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you first :-*
what do you want to see?
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haha my face isn't disfigured I was joking. Also I'm gonna be getting my penis operated on, minor surgery I'm not worried about it. Just to clarify. ;D
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Get back to your position, GETBIGGER!
My guy BAST can say and do whatever he wants...HE should be running things up in this piece...not Ron.
My guy BAST all up in the hisssouuusseee!!!
Holla!
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Hey everyone, enough about your penis's ::)
Things are going good, I have started the tanning process which SUCKS but hopefully I can come closer to perfecting my color this time around. The Dream Tan definitely helped last week but I was still a little light.
Other then that carb loading has been a little bit of a treat as for the first 24 hours I allowed myself raisons and bananas...it was WONDERFUL. Now I am on straight oatmeal or sweet potatoes and chicken-yum yum. Well, I need to get some beauty sleep-hope you all have a great night and I am only 36 hours away from the stage ;D
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Get back to your position, GETBIGGER!
My guy BAST can say and do whatever he wants...HE should be running things up in this piece...not Ron.
My guy BAST all up in the hisssouuusseee!!!
Holla!
That's right, bottlenose.
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Good luck with the tanning and the carbing up Jennifer! Look forward to seeing you onstage tomorrow, Knock 'em dead!!!
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I'll see you tomorrow, John. I'll pick up a DVD from you...just be sure to have a t-shirt for a Blockhead...ya hear!
S.
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Here's a pic of Jennifer and Yvette after the contest on Saturday. Jennifer looked great in winning her class and Yvette also looked awesome in the contest. Jennifer should look fantastic for the Jr. Nationals in another month.
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Jennifer and Yvette look beautiful here...great shot! Both ladies did well in competition. Yvette just OWNED the stage...her posture, her poise...she genuinely looked like she was having the time of her life on the stage...great job!
Jennifer looked like a PRO among ametures. She won her class out of 9 other girls to be ROBBED by a she-male ex BB girl turned 'figure?' I give my respect to the overall figure winner but after Jennifer was announced in 2nd place...a wave of 'Boo's' and 'gasps' and 'whaaaat???' was heard throughout the entire crowd. What is the standard the judges in Illinois are looking for? That was the question going around the expo hall there...everybody was floored with the announced winner. It's okay...Jennifer got what she wanted there and will be gunning for JRNATS.
A winner NEVER quits and a quitter NEVER wins...
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Hello all!
Well, the weekend went ok, I ended up winning my class again and not winning the overall:( I wasn't too upset, the girl who won was bigger then me but I think on a National stage I may end up better off. To me she looked like a bodybuilder (she actually made the switch last year), her upper body was great but her lower body was a little over-developed. Other then that, the girls were fantastic and the girl who came in second to me looked amazing. I don't have many pictures but I will post a couple. Thanks John for the support-it was great seeing you this weekend.
Also, here is a link to a friends website-he takes pictures at many of the shows and he just posted pics from the show. I was in the short class (FILE ISC-Womens Figure Short). The girl who took second is the gorgeous blonde in the picture that I posted at the end (I was #8, she was #7). The overall winner was from the Tall class, you can see those pics from the link as well (File ISC-Women's Figure Tall).
http://photoshow.comcast.net/windyz3/bodybuilding
(Lostboy if you want me to remove this let me know-thanks for all the pictures though ;))
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Here are some pics from the slideshow...
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Great Job, "Beast"!
Although the overall winner had more size, I thought you were in better condition, especially in the legs.
Definitely some beautiful women at that show. You, of course, being one of them.
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Wow that other blondie is a monster.
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My guy BAST is all up in da hisssooouuussseeee!!!!
She was a freak...people in the audience were yelling out 'Quadzilla!' when she stepped out...she could have easily won the womens bodybuilding as a crossover and nobody would have blinked an eye.
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I found the thread. Cool. So Beast, I don't mind you putting the link or pictures up.
You know, before the show, I saw you walking around out in the lobby area, and never having seen you compete yet, my eyes almost fell out of my skull. You looked freakin' AMAZING! I litterally did a double take, and then whispered to myself "Wow". :o Congratulations on your win . . . AGAIN!!! I think you're gonna make it a "turkey" at Jr. Nationals. I'll be there to watch it. ;)
It's just so cool that I actually know somebody that's winning contests! ;D
Lostboy
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Yep, good observation, I have no boobs when I am dieted...see boobs are all fat and when I get lean I lose my fat and therefore my boobs get smaller. Sorry I don't want to go under the knife just for Figure Competitons but thanks for reminding me that I am flat ::)
Ok, I've been reading this thread from the beginning, trying to resist commenting on things that are months old, but I have to comment on this one. Beast, I think you're awesome for not going under the knife for this. I think it's gross when some competitors get all kinds of plastic surgery to compete. I won't name any names, but I think you get the idea. Cudos to you Beast, and I think you look great just the way you are. OBVIOUSLY!
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Oh and Bast...with Blockhead it is more like the mid-80's with his tapered workout pants and fanny pack ::)
Hey! That's how I dress! The fanny pack is for my diabetic supplies though. It's better than carrying around a freakin' medical bag all the time, that I have to explain to people. ::) And yes, I am a Child of the Eighties (http://home.comcast.net/~windyz3/generationx.htm). ;D
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Jennifer you look great. I never knew you trained at the Lifetime in Schaumburg. I train there too, but late at night. I know what you mean about people not training legs there, its a joke. Heard Ted won his class too, well congrats.
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Ted looked amazing...wide as a barndoor, great quads...his girlfriend Christine looked awesome for her first ever show.
What's the gameplan for the JRNATS, BEAST? What are you tweaking? Inquiring minds want to know. Holla!
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Ted looked amazing...wide as a barndoor, great quads...his girlfriend Christine looked awesome for her first ever show.
What's the gameplan for the JRNATS, BEAST? What are you tweaking? Inquiring minds want to know. Holla!
Yes, Ted did great and Christina has a great base-she just needs to put on a little size in her upper body and dieting for the next show should be easier since she went through it once already.
As far as the changes I am making, well I have been contemplating it quite a bit and making a few changes. Part of my issue with Jr's is we are on stage Friday night and Saturday so getting everything perfected is hard...the thing I am having the most problems with is what I am planning on doing with my water intake. I just don't want to bloat up on Saturday.
I am planning on incorporating more creatine into my diet on Wed-Sat, probably 5-7 G's a day to help fill out my muscles. Other then that I will switch some of my chicken for steak and see how things go. I'm pretty excited and think that the changes should help out. Give me any comments...
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Jennifer, how did you feel the carb depleting and loading worked out for you? Did you feel that it made a big change from how you looked before the depleting and loading phase?
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Any new pics from less than 2 weeks out from JRNATS? How do you look/feel?
Give us a status check on you. Holla!
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Jennifer, how did you feel the carb depleting and loading worked out for you? Did you feel that it made a big change from how you looked before the depleting and loading phase?
You know I never feel like I quite fill out. I'm not sure if it is from dropping the water, but even when I am trying to pump up I just don't feel "full." I get nervous about adding more carbs into the mix because I do start to feel bloated (my stomach sticks out a little) from all the carbs. I've use sweet potatoes and oatmeal for loading but didn't see a huge difference in the way I looked/felt. I can tell when I am depleted, I do look a little flat though not as extensively as many bodybuilders I see. I'm guessing this is because I am not as lean so you can't tell as well but maybe that is why I never feel really full. Or I may have this delusional picture of what I think I should look and feel like so I always feel smaller then what I had imagined...
Do you have any suggestions? The above scenario is the main reason why I am planning on implementing more creatine into the last days-I really need my muscles to be full. I don't like the suggestion of more carbs as I never feel the immediate effect of adding them in that some people feel.
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My stomach doesn't get bloated unless I eat A LOT of food and drink a lot of water. You should consider trying simple carbs.
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Any new pics from less than 2 weeks out from JRNATS? How do you look/feel?
Give us a status check on you. Holla!
No new pics but I have been getting a lot of comments at the gym which I find strange. I've had quite a few people tell me I look leaner then they have ever seen me. My weight is still pretty steady but I am trying to hit the cardio a little more. Also I was pretty depleted yesterday so that may have affected peoples perceptions.
I feel ok though I am starting to get nervous and thinking about Jr's a lot. I've become obsessed with looking at girls who have recently gotten their Pro-Cards and comparing my pics with theirs...also I am stressing a little about my posing. It is weird because I was so confident before but my nerves are starting to play a role in the way I feel from day to day.
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Hey there,
As far your posing goes, in my opinion, your posing was the best in the Illinois State Show. As a matter of fact, you pose differently that most, and I think it accents your physique better, and makes you stand out.
Just the opinion of a fan, but I think it makes you better than everyone else. ;D
Lostboy
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You know I never feel like I quite fill out. I'm not sure if it is from dropping the water, but even when I am trying to pump up I just don't feel "full." I get nervous about adding more carbs into the mix because I do start to feel bloated (my stomach sticks out a little) from all the carbs. I've use sweet potatoes and oatmeal for loading but didn't see a huge difference in the way I looked/felt. I can tell when I am depleted, I do look a little flat though not as extensively as many bodybuilders I see. I'm guessing this is because I am not as lean so you can't tell as well but maybe that is why I never feel really full. Or I may have this delusional picture of what I think I should look and feel like so I always feel smaller then what I had imagined...
Do you have any suggestions? The above scenario is the main reason why I am planning on implementing more creatine into the last days-I really need my muscles to be full. I don't like the suggestion of more carbs as I never feel the immediate effect of adding them in that some people feel.
Jennifer, my advice to natural competitors is not even to mess with the carb depleting and loading. I tried a few times and never felt like the final result was worth all the effort. I was either too flat or I carbed up too much and ended up holding water. I asked Chris Aceto about this when I was competing in the natural contests and he said the same thing, he never advises natural bodybuilders to carb up. If you're looking good on Monday, you shouldn't do anything to mess with that condition during the week. Just keep everything the same except for the sodium and the water. As for pumping up, you might want to try some simple carbs before you go in to pump up. I used to take a teaspoon or two of jelly to get the veins to stand out. The real trick is to show up ripped and full which is really a matter of dieting long enough and smart enough and then just making the last minute manipulations with the water depletion and cutting the sodium.
By the way, I heard you on WLS radio the other day. Congrats for getting so much air time! You handled yourself really well and represented the sport in a respectful fashion.
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thank u
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In other words...if it aint broke...dont try to fix it, right?
Even the most unnatural of trainers(Jumbo Palumbo) advises something similar to what Mr. Aceto says...if it isnt broke dont fix it bottom line. You have the potential to make yourself look 5% better or 5% worse. The risk just isnt worth the reward.
I'll critique the video 'REAL Muscle' on the other forum. I watched it twice...I already lent it to a buddy of mine who is doing Kevin Nobles show in November...I'll post my 2cents...
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if u all ready look good then y mess with it
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Thanks! Thanks 'unbatrainer'...thanks for the information. Thanks alot. Great post.
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you are welcome anytime
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did I completely miss something? unbatrainer isnt' making sense...
Actually Natural_O I have been seriously thinking about what you said and if you don't mind I would like to talk to you personally about it. As I mentioned earlier I have never felt "on" at a show and I don't know if it is a nerves thing or a reality and am more then willing to change my routine.
Thanks again for all you help, at least you get me thinking on how to better what I am doing. Oh and I am not sure if you are just being nice to me about the WLS thing because I have no idea how I sounded. It was only supposed to be a 12 minute segment but let me stay on almost an hour so I was really happy about that. Not sure if the public liked it but I had fun:) I'm happy you had the chance to listen, I regret not telling more people about it but had I, I probably would have been much more nervous!
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Blockhead, what forum are you going to review my DVD on? Let me know, I'm anxious to think what you thought of it.
Jennifer, feel free to email me at John@naturalolympia.com anytime and we can discuss the whole carb-loading thing.
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Hey John...
I'll do it on PRIDE...
My buddy likes it as well...I'll get to work on it. What gym was that? That wasnt an XSPORT. I usually know my gyms...that one eluded me.
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Hey John...
I'll do it on PRIDE...
My buddy likes it as well...I'll get to work on it. What gym was that? That wasnt an XSPORT. I usually know my gyms...that one eluded me.
You should also start a thread here on the natural board...and let me watch it (though I suppose I should buy it :))
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Hey John...
I'll do it on PRIDE...
My buddy likes it as well...I'll get to work on it. What gym was that? That wasnt an XSPORT. I usually know my gyms...that one eluded me.
It was Diamond Gym in Orland Park, used to be Golds Gym. They were very nice about letting us come in and film whenever we wanted. They also let us come in for the photos for my book the year before. I figured X Sport would have to go thru too many levels of corporate so I didn't even ask them.
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Oh yea yea...over on Harlem in Tinley Park. There's a Bally's right next to it...I drove past it a 'plethora' of times but never stopped in.
Good...looks like a real G-Y-M. I met a girl who works there named 'Angela' once...I think she is/was a manager there.
I'm suprised you didnt go w/ USA. I'm still waiting to go check out 'Energy Fitness'. I think it's in...Matteson?
I'll check it out one of these days...nice leg pressing, brother...what was that...11 plates a side? 12?
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I'm an idiot...you just said 'ORLAND PARK'.
Same thing...'tomados...tomatoes..."
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Yes, Angela is the manager. It's a good gym, still hardcore unlike so many of them nowadays. My friend Joe Silzer trains there. How did you like the squats? That was my favorite part of the dvd!
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5 days ;D
GB-so are you going to pony up and get your butt out to Chitown for the show??? I know for a fact that Block has an extra bed in his room.......
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Yea...GB. You hear that...not to mention the fact I watched 'Brokeback Mountain' over the weekend...so I'm feeling a little frisky...know what I'm sayin?
We're BIG...we can always COMBINE the two beds together...let me know!
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Well I wish I had pictures to post but I probably won't get any new ones till this weekend. Things seem to be coming together nicely and I felt great in my workout yesterday. I upped my creatine intake to a whole scoop (5 G's I believe) from just 1/2 and I felt so full when lifting yesterday.
Also, after discussing my previous attempts at carb-loading with Mr. Natty O himself I have reworked my entire program an dam really hoping it comes together for me. I'm not going to carb-load/deplete for this show. In the past I have always been an advocate of it but I end up feeling bloated and not my best sooooo I am taking in slightly higher then normal carbs Monday, today and possibly Wednesday (100-125) normally I take in under 70. Then I will drop them to under 100 for the remainder of the week. In the past I have always dropped veggies on Wednesday-now I will keep only asparagus in and in limited amounts.
I am upping my fat this whole week-probaby will drop the natty pb Wednesday (sodium factor) but I am adding in 1-2 T of Flax which is disgusting but will hopefully help "move things along" and flatten out my stomach. I'm water loading 2 G+ through tomorrow. Drop it to 1.5 on Thursday. I'll be on stage on Friday evening so I will drink a decent amount that morning but sip afternoon as well as take a natty diuretic that afternoon/maybe evening and the Saturday morning to finish off pre-judging.
The whole 2-day/judging things isn't ideal but nothing I can do about it but look good on Friday night and outstanding Saturday morning for the 2=piece round. My color....I'll most likely start tanning tonight-my most hated part of the whole process!!!
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Before I forget, best of luck in your show Jennifer :)
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Well I wish I had pictures to post but I probably won't get any new ones till this weekend. Things seem to be coming together nicely and I felt great in my workout yesterday. I upped my creatine intake to a whole scoop (5 G's I believe) from just 1/2 and I felt so full when lifting yesterday.
Also, after discussing my previous attempts at carb-loading with Mr. Natty O himself I have reworked my entire program an dam really hoping it comes together for me. I'm not going to carb-load/deplete for this show. In the past I have always been an advocate of it but I end up feeling bloated and not my best sooooo I am taking in slightly higher then normal carbs Monday, today and possibly Wednesday (100-125) normally I take in under 70. Then I will drop them to under 100 for the remainder of the week. In the past I have always dropped veggies on Wednesday-now I will keep only asparagus in and in limited amounts.
I am upping my fat this whole week-probaby will drop the natty pb Wednesday (sodium factor) but I am adding in 1-2 T of Flax which is disgusting but will hopefully help "move things along" and flatten out my stomach. I'm water loading 2 G+ through tomorrow. Drop it to 1.5 on Thursday. I'll be on stage on Friday evening so I will drink a decent amount that morning but sip afternoon as well as take a natty diuretic that afternoon/maybe evening and the Saturday morning to finish off pre-judging.
The whole 2-day/judging things isn't ideal but nothing I can do about it but look good on Friday night and outstanding Saturday morning for the 2=piece round. My color....I'll most likely start tanning tonight-my most hated part of the whole process!!!
Can ya get spray tanned Jennifer? The spray booths can spray tan you with pro-tan. Maybe 2 or more coats could give some great color.
And Good Luck, although I don't think you'll need it. ;)
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Mrs. Arvilla up in the house!
I wish you two could be in town for JRNats this weekend in Chicago...I would have had a huge sloppy Chicago style PIZZA waiting for you and Mikey. Holla!
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Mrs. Arvilla up in the house!
I wish you two could be in town for JRNats this weekend in Chicago...I would have had a huge sloppy Chicago style PIZZA waiting for you and Mikey. Holla!
Michael would jump all over that pizza, but I can not. :( Grilled chicken for me. ;)
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Michael would jump all over that pizza, but I can not. :( Grilled chicken for me. ;)
You are nicer than me. When I diet my household diets. I freely force my stepdaughter to eat grilled chicken and broccoli and she knows full well that she has no alternative. If she wants something I can't eat....she has to take herself to the store and get it, and eat it before she gets home. I have poor willpower and cannot keep any decent food around me or I will annihilate it at like 2am. She's really cool about it though...kinda works well...as by virtue of 'dieting through me' she has a nice physique.....
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You are nicer than me. When I diet my household diets. I freely force my stepdaughter to eat grilled chicken and broccoli and she knows full well that she has no alternative. If she wants something I can't eat....she has to take herself to the store and get it, and eat it before she gets home. I have poor willpower and cannot keep any decent food around me or I will annihilate it at like 2am. She's really cool about it though...kinda works well...as by virtue of 'dieting through me' she has a nice physique.....
Well I dieted somewhat with Michael (just didn't eat as often as he did) and would have a cheat (potatoe, bread, etc) when out to lunch with a co-worker. I guess I am just accustomed to eating like that. After Michaels contest we had pizza. I could only eat one slice after the show, I felt so quilty because I know I have to start preparing for mine soon. I guess guilt is my willpower, lol.
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(potatoe, bread, etc)
Is this Dan Quayle's gimmick account?
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Is this Dan Quayle's gimmick account?
Bite me! >:( It's a Florida thing. Roflmao j/k
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When is and what show are you planning on, Laura?
Jennifer is a really good person to turn to when it comes to the ins and outs of femals figure contest dieting/training. I know Michael knows how to apply diet/training information to you...but if my wife wanted to train for a figure show. I'd probably be inclined to turn her over to a girl who digs through those trenches and walks that line...know what I'm sayin?
I train or train w/ a few different girls who are gunning to do FIGURE shows in Chicagoland within the next 6 months. I have no problem helping them TRAIN or hold an OFFSEASON type diet because in the OFFSEASON a figure girl should be really training like a BB and be focused on GROWING...but as it gets closer to showtime...I am turning them over to Jennifer.
Holla!
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dork
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Well I dieted somewhat with Michael (just didn't eat as often as he did) and would have a cheat (potatoe, bread, etc) when out to lunch with a co-worker. I guess I am just accustomed to eating like that. After Michaels contest we had pizza. I could only eat one slice after the show, I felt so quilty because I know I have to start preparing for mine soon. I guess guilt is my willpower, lol.
You need to loosen up a little now! You still have a few months before youhave to get serious about dieting...start too soon and you won't see the progress you are hoping for plus it will be more difficult to put on more muscle if you are being too strict.
Anyway, thanks for the support and the confidence, I am getting more and more nervous every hour :)
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Thanks CQ, hope your contest prep is going good-you must be pretty close. Let me know.
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Good Luck Jennifer!!
Knock 'em dead tonight!!!!
John
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Well as most of you know this past weekend did not go as planned :) But I have learned a few valuable lessons that I will bring into my next shows and I am looking forward now instead of back.
Overall I think I came into the show in my best condition to date. I did make a few major mistakes: my posing being #1 and my color #2. Luckily these are things that I can hopefully work on by New York. There are a few things I need to change in my physique as well but those will take more time and although I will adjust my training in the next 3 weeks, major changes won't happen until the next time around.
Block, I know I know-you told me so. You warned me from day 1 about my color and even though I don't tan well I will be doing everything I can to get some kind of base before New York. I thought I was the darkest I had ever been this weekend but once I got under those huge lights on stage I was a definite whitey. I HATE tanning but sometimes we have to do things we hate to achieve things we want (keep your minds out of the gutter).
Also I will be training a little with Mr. Natty O...thank you very much. He will be able to give me some pointers on posing even though he is a boy. He will know what to look for and how I can make some adjustments. We are training back this Saturday:)
As far as the changes in my physique that I feel most strongly about: I need better tie-ins from my glutes/hams. Jodi will actually be giving me a few pointers and I will be hitting the plyos/stadiums and switching my leg routines a little now but especially in the off-season. Also I really think I need a better peak on my shoulder. Genetically my shoulders and flatter on top and I need to figure out how I can bring out that upper peak (I may have to "cheat" it in my poses). Other then that I will continually try to bring my calves up and work on streamlining the muscle I gained this last year.
As always I love any comments/suggestions and although people always say ":don't listen to too many people" it is nice to hear peoples opinions. Like a fine wine I plan on getting better with time-stay tuned:)
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Last year :o
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This year ;D still needs work but a year can make a HUGE difference!!!
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A few more...thanks JC for the great pics:)
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Major improvements from last year to THIS year...
I'm not going to say I told you so about the tanning thing but whatever you do...try to do it E.O.D. instead of everyday...or 4 days a week. Like training...give your skin time to 'heal' in between tanning sessions same as you would w/ your muscles.
9-11 minutes in a Level 1 bed. Stand-up. Cut out tanning by 4-5 days before the show. I actually think this will be a good thing for your skin...people who hide from the sun and avoid the sun all the time got it wrong...how can/will their skin be immune to U.V. rays if its never exposed to it...let it build a little immunity.
Someone told me recently...if 'one' wants to play a certain game but ONLY wants to follow their own rules...how can they wonder why they didnt win? If tanning is the WORST thing you are doing to yourself...then you really have nothing to worry about.
I'd still go old school if I were you...I'd consider running a little E.C.A. w/ a handful of your next cardio sessions...throw in some DHEA in the morning and evening. DHEA can be bought at Walgreens...F.Y.I.
John? What do you think of that advice? You guys hittin Diamond Gym? I say bring her to USA! Too bad ol' Al's Gym isnt around anymore...that was a great gym.
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Thanks Pete, I hope it wasn't a conspiracy though!
The girl who won my class was beautiful and I thought she looked great. She was also very nice which makes her winning even better. I'll attach a few pics of the girls who placed high in my class but you can find all of them here-http://www.hardfitness.com/jrnats2006.html and I was in the B class in Figure.
The winner: Tinamarie Bloomfield
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2nd place: Lois Powell and 3rd place: Ginger Redeker
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Wow Jennifer, what a HUGE change in one year!! :o
Can you imagine what you are going to look like in another year
or two?
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Here are a few more, if I post too many no one will have to go to my eventual website though:)
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhht ;D
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wow i was just going over the pics, huuuge change in one year amazing looking great!! you probably could have placed a lil higher. your color is maybe the only drawback as you said. looks like you are really on the way. if you need a wardrobe man just let me know 8)
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OMG.........she is fricken HOT................ohhh. .........sorry...... :-\
Not really
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Thank you:) I hope that next weekend goes better. I am getting sprayed by Tammy Pies (won her Pro Card last year at Juniors), she has her own color and guarantees I'll be dark enough. Julie Lohre, another very fair complexioned competitor uses it and says it is great so I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Other then that I have been hitting my glutes/hams hard 2-3 times a week (once lifting and the other at the track with lunges, plyos and few sprints) I think I will come in just a tad leaner though not sure this is a great thing. I am hoping that eventually those tie-ins will show up but it is looking like I may have to wait till next year. Not such a bad thing as it gives me something to work and improve on.
Thank again for the support everyone and Pete, what can I say but thank you and god I wish the judges thought like you did ;)
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Oh and GB, she is more beautiful in real life and very nice:)
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Some shots taken by John Lathrop over the past few weeks
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oh my God. thank you for the pictures. :o
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a few more
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I need to get me one of doze..
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I need to get me one of doze..
a jean skirt?
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a jean skirt?
That cute top would show my abs..
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I like this thread with all it's sexual undertones and engagements. Soon we'll have our first Getbig Marrage!
:D
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I like this thread with all it's sexual undertones and engagements. Soon we'll have our first Getbig Marrage!
:D
haha who's your groom?
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haha who's your groom?
Gargantuan supporter of gay marriage...
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haha who's your groom?
What, are you encouraging me to marry your getbig groom, "the beast"? :o
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What, are you encouraging me to marry your getbig groom, "the beast"? :o
I didn't realize I was a boy...
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I didn't realize I was a boy...
:'(
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I didn't realize I was a boy...
more evidence that DF is looking for a husband. He's not into women Beast.
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He's not into "the women Beast"
You said it bro! ;)
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haha DF is out of the closet.
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haha DF is out of the closet.
Brutal "I take everything with 2 legs and a vagina" meltdown :o
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Epic non-causal hatred for 'the Beast'
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Monster 24 year old blond girl realization
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New York, New York...
Well the weekend definitely had its ups and downs. I am extrememly grateful to Tamee and her husband for helping me out with a place to stay. It was so great meeting you and hanging out with you. It is too bad the weekend ended up the way it did but if nothing else I endedup with a new friend and hopefully we will get to hang out in Vegas.
Also one of my closest friends, Susan Groshek won her Pro-Card in Fitness. You did such an amazing job this weekend-I am so happy for you. This next year will be a hard one and I am looking forward to seeing you back on stage...the Pro Stage:) Also the article in Oxygen was really good congratulations on a great month!
As far as my showing this weekend...on the up side I placed in my first National Level Show! It was 11th so nothing to brag about but better, at least I am moving up :) So this show I did stay after to speak with the judges and get some help with what to do next. For both rounds Sandy had one word next to my name-bodybuilder. I was too developed for what the judges are now looking for in Figure. For the first round I didn't flex as I heard they were looking for a softer look, I was placed 9th in this round (1-piece). Backstage before the second round an expediator said "separated but not striated" which I mistook as a sign to flex my legs...this moved me down to 14th with the comments, bodybuilder-separation in legs next to my name.
For Vegas, which I am still planning on doing, I will be doing cardio sessions in place of lifting to hopefully bring in down just a bit. I will also not flex heavily on stage and stand in a natural stance. There may not be a whole lot I can do before Vegas and I will have to work on toning down my body by next year if this is the direction I choose to go. Part of me thinks I may be more suited for bodybuilding because lifting is a passion of mine and to not be able to lift heavy would be a great sacrifice. I have awhile before I have to make my mind up though.
To all the other ladies that I meet and chatted with this weekend-congratulations :) I know that for most of us it didn't go our way...keep your heads up and I look forward to seeing you all in the future.
Here are some pictures of my back, I still think it is detailed enough. The first three pictures were taken by TK and more can be seen at www.femflex.com the last one was taken by Mike at www.herbiceps.com.
I don't want to forget... Thin Lizzy it was great meeting you this weekend :)
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I have a question for "The Beast"...
Are you still claiming you can squat 315/325?
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I didn't realize I was a boy...
Oh my...I just "discovered" the picures in this thread. :o Thank you Jennifer! :-* :-[
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Looking hot! :-*
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Who won the overall and a trip to the Bahamas w/ a popular Chicago based radio show at the 'Games'?
I heard the girl who won the whole show made alot of little lesbian girlz upset...
Straight People-1 Gay People-0
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OK...here we go. There are so many posts that TA and JEZ have started that I will not respond to because they ask the same questions over and over. If I answer in one place another thread will pop up (same topic) and I have to recap the whole thing, this gets tiresome. For the benefit of those who have not read my posts from the last 6 months I will start from the beginning and hopefully give a clear view of who I am, why I am here and explain some of the issues raised about me.
My background:
Born in Omaha, NE I was immediately drawn to sports and wanting to be part of the action. My biggest hurdle when I was younger was my asthma, this really held me back. Many times growing up I would end up in the hospital for as little as one day to more then 5 days because of my asthma-it sucked because I just wanted to be normal, to run without my inhaler, to pet animals at a petting zoo to not worry about being able to breathe. The biggest savior in my life was my passion to be an athlete.
I started running track in 6th grade, I as always a short sprinter and jumper. In junior high when we had to run the mile I couldn't run it under 11 minutes and even at 11 minutes I would end up in the nurses office with an asthma attack-again it sucked. Not until high school did I really start to work on the strength of my lungs and begin to overcome this illness.
My freshman year in high school I did not do a fall sport, I vowed never to run x-country because I hated long-distance and I wasn't a swimmer and had never played V-ball. I was waiting for track and then I got the itch to be a part of something. I really wanted to get in shape for track before the season began but the Winter sports were even less appealing to me., Basketball...NOT my thing, gymnastics-well I am the least flexible person I know and Bowling I didn't consider it a sport that would get me into shape. My options were limited.
At this point a few of my girlfriends decided they were going to be wrestling managers so I went to the meeting with them assuming I would do the same to pass the time before track. At the meeting there were 2 girls who said they were there to join the team...this got me thinking. As a female I had always been strong, arm-wrestling and beating guys in junior high...plus I REALLY did want to participate in a sport not sit on the sidelines. I decided to go for it.
The school had guidelines for this and my mother and I were required to attend roughly 3-4 meeting with various people (principal, athletic director...) sign liability papers and basically try to get talked out of it. I was the only girl who followed through with these meetings, my mother fully supported my decision. Wrestling is probably the hardest thing I have ever done, I have no idea how I made it through 4 years.
The first year was definitely the hardest. The guys didn't like me on their team, the coaches were skeptical and most of my teammates had prior wrestling experience. I wasn't good but I had a big heart and I tried. My asthma was an issue throughout all my years wrestling but every year it got better...and every year I improved. Throughout this experience I did win, I did beat guys and wrestled 3 (maybe 4) girls and beat them all. I'm not sure what my record was though it would be misleading and it would probably be close to 500, especially my senior year I received many forfeits. I wrestled varsity maybe 1-2 times but I was normally on JV. This meant I wrestled many freshman and sophomores-if a coach had a young guy who thought the match could go my way he would many times pull them because it would not be good for a girl to beat a boy and on JV it is easier to pull your wrestlers. In Illinois we had a few very good females who wrestled at 103 on Varsity, Mandy Thompson made it to Sectionals (maybe even State) as did Jenny Zehr.
For those of you who think woman have no place in wrestling I strongly disagree. I wish more high school and colleges had programs for woman-this is a sport about discipline, hard work, patience, strength-there is nothing that I think is harder then facing an opponenet one on one. Also with Title 9 affecting men's wrestling programs throughout the school system having a female counterpart would take this threat away and the teams would support each others status. I am proud to have been a part of the team and after that first year the coaches and my teammates were happy to have me there. I will always be a part of that team and Coach OB's trademark statement will stay with me forever "Good things happen to good people who work hard." These are words to live all areas of your life by, I try to do this everyday.
Back to freshman year-I wrestled got my butt kicked and improved my health. From that year on I have yet to return to the hospital because of my asthma, not to say that it is completely controlled but it no longer holds me back. In the Spring I ran track and had success. Track is what I was passionate about, what I would dream about and what I loved. My coaches informed me that I would be participating in X-Country in the Fall, I tried to fight it but they pushed hard and said if I wanted to be the best that I would have to do it. From that point on I was a three-sport athlete.
JEZ-no I don't want to be a man, I want to take a path less taken. I don't want to always take the easy way and have things given to me. I make choices that are not "mainstream" and I am sorry if this makes you uncomfortable but I am so happy with the way that things in my life have worked out. It could have been much worse. This is who I am, I don't try to hide it.
Onto my lifting and the ongoing discussions on if I am a liar, why I would lie about my lifting, how much I lift, why I won't prove it...
No I am not a liar. I have found that it is much easier to tell the truth then to tell a lie. Am I stronger then many females, yes I also have a very strong work ethic and have been at it for quite awhile. It seems that everytime TA and JEZ question my strength and post pictures they undoubtedly post pictures from my comepetition season last year. Lets go back to last year...I graduated from college and finished my track/sprinting and jumping career-I was lost without training and decided I would train for a marathon.
During marathon training I basically stopped lifting and lost quite a bit of the muscle I had put on throughout the years. I ran the Sunburst Marathon in Indiana in June and had been planning on running the Chicago Marathon with my ex in October. My knees had other plans the running was too much and I was only able to run the last 10 with my ex in the Chicago Marathon. After that I needed to find something that better suited my body-I started looking into Bodybuilding shows. After speaking with trainers at my gym I found out about Figure competitions and decided that was what I would do. There were a few shows in May and I started training Dec-Jan. I really only had 1-2 months to try and regain some of that last muscle before I started dieting. Because of this I was very thin after dieting down...I didn't have enough muscle and my goal for this season was to put on size (especially in my legs).
Last year I competed at roughly 115, maybe a little under that-I got over 140 in my off-season. I ate and trained and ate and trained-I loved it. You question my strength but I was squatting 135 early on in college maybe as easily as high school. It wasn't hard to regain my strength this past year especially when training with other bodybuilders. When I squatted 315 the first time I was scared, I did 275 quite often but that had been my highest, the guys pushed me. I learned to wrap my knees, I bought a belt, I chalked up and I kicked some ass. It was motivating, invigorating and hard as hell. Someone asked why I didn't videotape it, do you normally videotape your workouts? I don't, not to mention no cameras of any kind are allowed in my normal gym.
Why don't I do it right now? Well I have answer this numerous times as well. I have been dieting since February. Since May I have competed in 5 shows, not sure how many of you compete but that is a lot and is extremely hard on your body. Right now I weight approximately 122, I've gained 7 pounds since last year and that is 7 hard earned pounds plus I believe I am slightly leaner this year. Will I lift this heavy again-you betcha but it is not going to happen overnight. My last show of the season is next week in Vegas-then I plan on taking a few weeks off to let my body heal and recover, then I plan on hitting it hard again this year. Unfortunately it looks as though I won't be able to hit it as hard because the judges have stated I am too big for Figure and I will have to tone it down a little if I want to do well. At my dieted down/depleted self I still rep 185 easily and will occasionally do more but at this moment I am just trying to maintain my body and not injure myself.
It is crazy to me that TA and JEZ have become so obsessed with me, actually I take it as a compliment. You won't prove me wrong, especially in this. People who know me well on these boards and in my life know that the thing I hate most is being lied to. I can't stand liars, I understand to make a point in a story some people like to embellish-not me, I like to tell it like it is.
This past year I have worked hard on my body and on the person I am becoming. I have been so fortunate this year-one of my best friends just earned their Pro-Cards, I have made numerous friends with my fellow competitors, I have met great people in the industry who have been willing to help me and believe in me, and my life in this is just beginning. I have made a commitment to myself to not use drugs and hopefully will encourage others to make this choice. It really doesn't matter to me what others choose to do but I want to show others that it can be done the natural way. I don't have big boobs or a perfect face or body but these things do not define me, my mind and my actions and my beliefs are who make me who I am and I am happy with this person. Maybe I will never earn my Pro-Card but I would not give up the experience and people I have met along the way for anything. Thank you to everyone who continues to support me and encourage me, one more week until I will finally be in my off-season :)
TA and JEZ-I am sorry if I have done something to offend you. The reason I am on these boards is to help others and not degrade them. Training for a show or even dieting for that matter is not easy and I hope that people feel comfortable asking me questions or talking to me about their experiences. Obviously there are competitors who have been at it for years longer then me and I still have a lot to learn but having people on your side is, in my eyes, immensely important. The support I have gotten from the members on this board have helped make my dieting process a little easier and many have helped with my training by helping me correct problems in my physique. Again I am not sure why you have chosen to continually berate and degrade me but if I must be your victim please know that you are wrong in this.
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Jennifer, you do NOT have to explain yourself to anyone here. :)
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Best part is she NEVER ever mentioned her lifts ONCE on getbig...never once. She had it posted on HER personal website in her blog but she NEVER felt a need to talk about it here...
It was this BlockHead right here who just babbling w/ alexxx back and forth mentioned how she can press this or squat that...alexxx started a thread out of an inside joke to me and then TA took it to astronomical heights...he went as far as to call out her heels in her shoes giving her an extra two inches if she claims she is only this height and so on...
Why the fcuk WOULD she videotape her workouts...thats fkn cheesy and unnecessary...when we would go train legs last winter...the LAST thing on our minds was 'Oh, lets bring a video recorder in case fcuk-nuts on getbig dont believe this so we have proof...' Hell no...who has time for that siht? We just showed up and trained...thats it. Then go out and get double denver omlets and pancakes afterwards...damn those were good workouts/good meals...snap!
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M E L T D O W N ...sorry, but that shows how deep her insecurity & need to prove herself really is.
I'd like to know what's so hard about bringing a video camera to the gym and filming one lift. Excuses, excuses...
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Best part is she NEVER ever mentioned her lifts ONCE on getbig...never once. She had it posted on HER personal website in her blog but she NEVER felt a need to talk about it here...
hahhaha for good reason!
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Yes Blockhead I did WIN the Gay Games yesterday! It was actually a lot fo fun, everyone was so nice and the crowd was amazing.
I was so nervous because this was my first bbing show. There were 5 of us in our class and the girls looked good, 3 of us were from the Chicago area and I really wish them luck in their future shows. The mandatories were more stressful then I imagined they would be, I am so use to having a mirror. We got through those and then performed our posing routines. Thank goodness my friend Nicole helped me with mine, it ended up being creative and fun. She is a Fitness America competitor and was a LuvaBull so she had some cute ideas.
After the night show I went out to dinner with the crew from The Roe Conn show. They were so excited for me-it was their first bbing show and I think they were more nervous then I was when the winner was being announced. At dinner Roe said at this point they were so pleased I could have anything I wanted...I knew he was exaggerating but I said that I wanted them to take me to the Bahamas with them in September. They are doing a remote broadcast-he said done! They are working on the details now and I am really hoping everything works out because I have never been out of the country (other then Rosarito Beach in Mexico and Niagra Falls).
Tonight, on the Glenn Beck Show on CNN Headline News there should be still pictures of me at 6, 8 and 11 PM (I think!) Check it out!!! You can also look http://www.wlsam.com/PhotoWall.asp?id=23308 on WLS/Roe Conn Website to see them. Ugh, my tan is horrible though, it was like 90 something and HUMID as hell and I was dripping, they had us in a fieldhouse with no air conditioning.
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Fark well done on the physique jennifer , wouldnt suprise me if you have a better back than half the guys on here! ;D
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Yes Blockhead I did WIN the Gay Games yesterday! It was actually a lot fo fun, everyone was so nice and the crowd was amazing.
I was so nervous because this was my first bbing show. There were 5 of us in our class and the girls looked good, 3 of us were from the Chicago area and I really wish them luck in their future shows. The mandatories were more stressful then I imagined they would be, I am so use to having a mirror. We got through those and then performed our posing routines. Thank goodness my friend Nicole helped me with mine, it ended up being creative and fun. She is a Fitness America competitor and was a LuvaBull so she had some cute ideas.
After the night show I went out to dinner with the crew from The Roe Conn show. They were so excited for me-it was their first bbing show and I think they were more nervous then I was when the winner was being announced. At dinner Roe said at this point they were so pleased I could have anything I wanted...I knew he was exaggerating but I said that I wanted them to take me to the Bahamas with them in September. They are doing a remote broadcast-he said done! They are working on the details now and I am really hoping everything works out because I have never been out of the country (other then Rosarito Beach in Mexico and Niagra Falls).
Tonight, on the Glenn Beck Show on CNN Headline News there should be still pictures of me at 6, 8 and 11 PM (I think!) Check it out!!! You can also look http://www.wlsam.com/PhotoWall.asp?id=23308 on WLS/Roe Conn Website to see them. Ugh, my tan is horrible though, it was like 90 something and HUMID as hell and I was dripping, they had us in a fieldhouse with no air conditioning.
What was the prize? A subscription to Beastgays.com, a Chocolate covered Dildo and a gift certificate to Musclebear Island Resort?
Gayer than winning first prize in a beauty paegant for Dykes.
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At dinner Roe said at this point they were so pleased I could have anything I wanted...I knew he was exaggerating but I said that I wanted them to take me to the Bahamas with them in September. They are doing a remote broadcast-he said done! They are working on the details now and I am really hoping everything works out because I have never been out of the country (other then Rosarito Beach in Mexico and Niagra Falls).
WOW! That would be a pretty good prize for winning an amateur show! :D
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hi
i just visited this forum
could u tell me what kind of questions i can ask u?
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hi
i just visited this forum
could u tell me what kind of questions i can ask u?
Hmmm, do you know what kind of forum this is and what Jennifer competes in? Put those two answers together and wala, you'll know what kind of questions you can ask her. ;)
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M E L T D O W N ...sorry, but that shows how deep her insecurity & need to prove herself really is.
I'd like to know what's so hard about bringing a video camera to the gym and filming one lift. Excuses, excuses...
Im sorry, but how are you even blaaabing this to a Now National level competitor? Keep your online popularity contests to yourself, why would she want to give u the time of day to go out of her way to "film a lift for Jez".. omg, please. She busted her ass and worked hard to get to where shes at, and people like you just hate that and are jealous.
Btw, did you see her on CNN? 8)
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Holy crap! I heard it on the radio! She gets a free trip w/them! SWEET! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee! ;D
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Jennifer take us with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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hi
i just visited this forum
could u tell me what kind of questions i can ask u?
Welcome to THUNDERDOME, BITCH!!!! WTF kind of question is that? Hump!
Thanks for the shout-out on the radio show, Jen...and for the compliment as well.
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Its been a great few weeks and I'm getting really excited about the Bahamas. This year I made some great improvements to my physique and I am looking forward to some time off so I can grow and get better (plus a little bigger :) ). My off-season won't officially start until the end of September, once I get back from the Bahamas but I have started incorporating different training into my routine.
Thanks to everyone here who supported me through this season. Though I didn't accomplish all my goals I learned a lot and am already excited for next year. The girls I met at the shows are by far the best part about competing. It is unfortunate more of you girls didn't do better and I really hope you stick with it next year, I like meeting new people and all but I would miss having you girls around. This year the judging was difficult and I think it will be interesting to see what they are looking for next year. At this point I can tell you I wouldn't have a problem switching over to bbing if I think my physique would present better there. Jodi...GOOD LUCK I cannot wait to see what happens with your decision...I will be watching:)
Here are a few pics from my photoshoot with Gene...I would really appreciate feedback on the picture you like most (if you don't like any that is fine too). I want to enter a few into Gene's competition for the cover of his business cards.
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Some more
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I like the second one and the last one Jennifer. :)
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Thanks girls :)
I missed the show yesterday so I have no idea what Christine said but yes...however bad she made it sound it was worse! We were gone by the end of the show and it got crazier as the night went on. We were just on Rush and Division and made rounds to many of the bars...it was a lot of fun. I wish they had replays of the show that I could download.
Other then the Bahamas I don't think I will be back on soon. I would love for it to be a monthly thing but it is a hard angle to approach. Oh and Blockhead was supposed to post on a thread that I was going to be on but he must have forgotten ::) Next time I will be more on top of things. Thanks Stella :)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY :)
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Happy Birthday Jennifer!!!!! :D
Gosh, to be 25 again. :)
Enjoy your day!
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Bump.
Just blowing the dust off of this thread...
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Ohhhh, how sweet block. I am still alive (though I have strep throat at the moment), just been busy with work.
For old times sake, here are a fewof my favorite shots Mike and I took at the USA's this year.
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dammit dont ya hate it when a chick has a better 6 pack than yaself
jen do you fat burners by chance/ephd.
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I met Jennifer last night at the Nationals. She is truly beautiful, smart and has a great body.
It was very nice hanging out with ya Jen. Hope we can do it again. Call me when you're down in FL again.
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dammit dont ya hate it when a chick has a better 6 pack than yaself
jen do you fat burners by chance/ephd.
I'll tackle this one if I may be so bold...
THE BEAST doesn't use ephedrine or ephedra or anything possibly dubbed 'illegal'. Trust and Believe a BlockHead when I say this...I tried to get her to and reccomended it plenty of times but she wouldn't budge.
From what I know the only 'fat burner' she uses is pre-cardio 2 DIALED-IN capsules and only 1 cap before breakfast on non cardio days.
DIALED IN is made by Pride Nutrition. www.pridenutrition.com
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BUMP...the dust and rust of this thread!
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Nevermind me...just doing a little dusting and sweeping in here...
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Tier,
So sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, it has been a tough month and I have been pretty busy on top pf it. As far as fat-burners, Blockhead is right theat I never used ephedrine.
I did use Dialed-In (Pride Nutritions fat burner which has a synephrine/caffeine/white willow...aspirin blend) before cardio and on days that I was sluggish. Mor then that I beleived in taking in a ton of good fats (40-50 Grams a day, 10-15 G's coming from EFA's, the rest coming from raw almonds, natural PB, flax oil and olive oil.) as well as a product called C-Gone from Pride...it is a carb-utilizer and I swear that leaning up this year was cake. I didn't have the mood swings that I had last year using nothing and I really don't do that much cadio 30-45 min 4-5 days a week when I am cutting.
Hope this helps...form what I have heard though the ECA stack is the way to go if you aren't worried about using ephedrine.
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Yep!
Ephedrine at 25mg, Aspirin at 81-100mg and Caffeine at 200mg.
Or...DNP.
Welcome back...LOBBY for me to Ron. I want to be a moderator but he's mad at me.
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Damn Girl!!! Where have you been. >:( We have been worried sick about you.
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Bump the COBWEBS off of this thread!
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I present Jodi and The Beast
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I present Jodi and The Beast
thats a great pic ;) got anymore?
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I present Jodi and The Beast
Yes yes! More please 8)
And is The Beast still getting married to Kiwiol?