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I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« on: February 23, 2015, 09:26:58 AM »
Granted, he admitted he considered placing rioters into a peaceful protest in order to get it rowdy so police could crush it, so that's a bad thing... but aside from that...

I'm really starting to like Walker.  He keeps making brilliant statements like this:

“I’ve actually never talked about it or I haven’t read about that,” Walker said, his voice calm and firm. “I’ve never asked him that,” he added. “You’ve asked me to make statements about people that I haven’t had a conversation with about that. How [could] I say if I know either of you are a Christian?"
Walker said such questions from reporters are reflective of a broader problem in the nation’s political-media culture, which he described as fixated on issues that are not relevant to most Americans.
“To me, this is a classic example of why people hate Washington and, increasingly, they dislike the press,” he said. “The things they care about don’t even remotely come close to what you’re asking about.”

Walker isn't buying into the typical wedge issue, personal attack/suspicion bullshit that other politicians (of both parties) always choose. 

If he can remain consistent on this - and not just pick and choose which social issues to weigh in on - I'm totally going to like this guy in the 2016 primaries.  It'll be hypocritical if he says "we should focus on economics, I'm not talking about evolution", then he proceeds to scream about 5 popular social issue positions he has.

Would love to see him stay on message - fix the economy - while showing competence on the important issues like defense, and lettting the states deal with the day-to-day drama on wedge issues.

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 09:30:49 AM »
I'm convinced that we are doomed no matter who is elected.   If a Republican gets in the white house he will just do the same stupid shit the Democrats have done. 
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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 09:35:21 AM »
I'm convinced that we are doomed no matter who is elected.   If a Republican gets in the white house he will just do the same stupid shit the Democrats have done. 

but half of the problem in DC is that instead of focusing upon budget, economy, defense, manufacturing, national improvement.... Politicians spend too much of their time with ceremonial bills on wedge issues.  They waste time every week on these bills, admitting they won't pass, but they want to get "on the record" with 55 bills on whatever issue...

It's all about their base, trying to shore up donations for the next election.  If they could maybe make that vote ONCE then spend the rest of the time actually solving problems, that'd be great.  Worst are those in Senate that don't bother voting, even though they scream about the wedge issues all the time.  Ugh. 

Problem with Hermann cain ' answering "999" for everything from libya to russia - is that he really didn't have an understanding of these issues.  When pressed, he didn't know anything about these conflicts, he didn't know who had nukes... scary unprepared.    Walker is a governor and a smart man... show us you can fix economy, let the states handle the wedge issue.  Way too many repubs scream about states rights, then demand a national bill on issues they pick and choose. 

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 09:45:47 AM »
but half of the problem in DC is that instead of focusing upon budget, economy, defense, manufacturing, national improvement.... Politicians spend too much of their time with ceremonial bills on wedge issues.  They waste time every week on these bills, admitting they won't pass, but they want to get "on the record" with 55 bills on whatever issue...

It's all about their base, trying to shore up donations for the next election.  If they could maybe make that vote ONCE then spend the rest of the time actually solving problems, that'd be great.  Worst are those in Senate that don't bother voting, even though they scream about the wedge issues all the time.  Ugh. 

Problem with Hermann cain ' answering "999" for everything from libya to russia - is that he really didn't have an understanding of these issues.  When pressed, he didn't know anything about these conflicts, he didn't know who had nukes... scary unprepared.    Walker is a governor and a smart man... show us you can fix economy, let the states handle the wedge issue.  Way too many repubs scream about states rights, then demand a national bill on issues they pick and choose. 

Politicians put partisan "wedge issue" initiatives in funding bills that they then threaten not to pass if they don't get their way.  The recent DHS funding bill is a good example of that. The same shit will happen no matter who is elected.
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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 09:48:37 AM »
you will shill for Hillary regardless in 2016 - stop the bullshit

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 09:49:27 AM »
The same shit will happen no matter who is elected.

maybe.  maybe not.  Would President Ron Paul have let his party do it?  Who knows.  At the very least, a strong Repub President that "calls out" both parties in congress for this pork crap might lessen it.  

i'm so sick of the left/right talk.  I like walker because he's willing to focus on the ECONOMY and he's not pandering to the base.

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 09:52:15 AM »
you will shill for Hillary regardless in 2016 - stop the bullshit

I have shit on the clintons on getbig since 2002 or so.  I hate them.  I'm disgusted by repubs that voted hilary in primaries, I'm disgusted by people willing to vote in the seriously piggish bill clinton into office.  I cannot stand the clintons.

I want Warren to win the Dem nomination - give america two extermes to choose from.  They run Hilary vs Christie, and let's be honest, they're pretty close on most issues - She's a lib hawk and He's a lifetime liberal rino. 

if I do kneepad hilary by saying she's the best bet for president, call me on it.  if i point out good/bad points with all candidates, accept that comes with debate on a forum.  Some folks can't tell honest assessment from kneepadding. 

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 09:52:22 AM »
maybe.  maybe not.  Would President Ron Paul have let his party do it?  Who knows.  At the very least, a strong Repub President that "calls out" both parties in congress for this pork crap might lessen it.  

i'm so sick of the left/right talk.  I like walker because he's willing to focus on the ECONOMY and he's not pandering to the base.
 

President Ron Paul would be dicked around by both parties.
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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 09:53:50 AM »
I have shit on the clintons on getbig since 2002 or so.  I hate them.  I'm disgusted by repubs that voted hilary in primaries, I'm disgusted by people willing to vote in the seriously piggish bill clinton into office.  I cannot stand the clintons.

I want Warren to win the Dem nomination - give america two extermes to choose from.  They run Hilary vs Christie, and let's be honest, they're pretty close on most issues - She's a lib hawk and He's a lifetime liberal rino. 

if I do kneepad hilary by saying she's the best bet for president, call me on it.  if i point out good/bad points with all candidates, accept that comes with debate on a forum.  Some folks can't tell honest assessment from kneepadding. 

Christie / Jeb / Rubio / Huck - all same shit

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 09:58:24 AM »
Christie / Jeb / Rubio / Huck - all same shit

Christie / Jeb / Rubio / Huck
same as Hilary, same as Romney, same as Mccain.

You're absolutely right.  Any idiot that tells you "i think Jeb will really change things" is a liar or an idiot.  Anyone that says "Christie is just what we need to stop this liberal mess" is stupid or dishonest.  Anyone that says "Hilary is going ot fix the obama mess" doesn't realize she's just following the obama/bush game plan. 

it'll take an extreme candidate to change anything.   let's run Cruz vs. Warren (or Walker vs Warren) and let America decide if they want to fix things thru fiscal conservatism, or if they want to become a govt-run socialist state.  This middle-of-road circle jerk is getting old.   I seriously want to throat punch any getbigger that tells us how Jeb is the return to conservative spending and values we'd been waiting for lol.

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 10:03:34 AM »
No matter who is in the white house spending goes up and the debt increases.  If Walker was really interested in doing anything to improve the economy and tried, he would be a one term President.  He's one man against many interests, some of those interests he shares.
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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 10:06:43 AM »
No matter who is in the white house spending goes up and the debt increases.  If Walker was really interested in doing anything to improve the economy and tried, he would be a one term President.  He's one man against many interests, some of those interests he shares.

then he should do that - get elected, put the USA on a good course, and if the 'interests' vote him out, then fine, he's fixed USA in only 4 years and can now make 20 mil a year giving speeches lol.  it's a win. 


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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 10:14:59 AM »
then he should do that - get elected, put the USA on a good course, and if the 'interests' vote him out, then fine, he's fixed USA in only 4 years and can now make 20 mil a year giving speeches lol.  it's a win. 



no one could do that in four years
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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 10:23:31 AM »
no one could do that in four years

eh, he could make a major impact in 4 years.   Just veto budgets until you see one that is responsible.  Cut the military spending in half - we still have more than the rest of the world combined and we can still destroy anyone... but do ya really need 50,000 men in SKorea?  I'm betting a video game kid in Tampa, FL with remote control nukes could keep NKorea in line just as easily lol.

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 10:26:13 AM »
eh, he could make a major impact in 4 years.   Just veto budgets until you see one that is responsible.  Cut the military spending in half - we still have more than the rest of the world combined and we can still destroy anyone... but do ya really need 50,000 men in SKorea?  I'm betting a video game kid in Tampa, FL with remote control nukes could keep NKorea in line just as easily lol.

All that sounds good but like I said interest groups will fight any president tooth and nail.  He can't do all of that alone and certainly not in four years.  Its a pipe dream
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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 10:15:34 AM »
Granted, he admitted he considered placing rioters into a peaceful protest in order to get it rowdy so police could crush it, so that's a bad thing... but aside from that...

I'm really starting to like Walker.  He keeps making brilliant statements like this:

“I’ve actually never talked about it or I haven’t read about that,” Walker said, his voice calm and firm. “I’ve never asked him that,” he added. “You’ve asked me to make statements about people that I haven’t had a conversation with about that. How [could] I say if I know either of you are a Christian?"
Walker said such questions from reporters are reflective of a broader problem in the nation’s political-media culture, which he described as fixated on issues that are not relevant to most Americans.
“To me, this is a classic example of why people hate Washington and, increasingly, they dislike the press,” he said. “The things they care about don’t even remotely come close to what you’re asking about.”

Walker isn't buying into the typical wedge issue, personal attack/suspicion bullshit that other politicians (of both parties) always choose. 

If he can remain consistent on this - and not just pick and choose which social issues to weigh in on - I'm totally going to like this guy in the 2016 primaries.  It'll be hypocritical if he says "we should focus on economics, I'm not talking about evolution", then he proceeds to scream about 5 popular social issue positions he has.

Would love to see him stay on message - fix the economy - while showing competence on the important issues like defense, and lettting the states deal with the day-to-day drama on wedge issues.

Not sure how much Walker know's about "fixing" the economy considering that he hasn't done shit for Wisconsin and has actually quite likely harmed the economy there

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 10:17:15 AM »
Not sure how much Walker know's about "fixing" the economy considering that he hasn't done shit for Wisconsin and has actually quite likely harmed the economy there

Gov is about the closest job one can get to president... so a governor's performance matters a lot.

From what I've heard, he's turned things around completely by cutting lots of pork/fat.

Link to evidence otherwise?

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2015, 10:19:03 AM »
Not sure how much Walker know's about "fixing" the economy considering that he hasn't done shit for Wisconsin and has actually quite likely harmed the economy there

LOL - yet you and the other libfags will vote for Hillary who destroyed lybia and everything else she went near

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2015, 10:21:28 AM »
LOL - yet you and the other libfags will vote for Hillary who destroyed lybia and everything else she went near

careful, bro.  We don't want to fall into the trap of "it's okay that Walker sucks because Hilary sucks worse".   That happened in 2008 and 2012, and nobody bothered showing up to vote repub.

Instead, soul crusher, tell us how Walker WAS a success in turning around economy in his state. 

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2015, 10:22:44 AM »
careful, bro.  We don't want to fall into the trap of "it's okay that Walker sucks because Hilary sucks worse".   That happened in 2008 and 2012, and nobody bothered showing up to vote repub.

Instead, soul crusher, tell us how Walker WAS a success in turning around economy in his state. 

Walker busted the Union THUGS and stood up to them through everything.  Showed balls of steel staring down the far left communist pos like Obama and strapajamafag support

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2015, 10:25:56 AM »
Walker busted the Union THUGS and stood up to them through everything.  Showed balls of steel staring down the far left communist pos like Obama and strapajamafag support

Yes, balls are nice, but "showing balls" is what high school jocks do while flexing in the end zone while losing 42-7.

Do you have link showing Walker turned around economy? 

See, I'll start:

In 2011, Wisconsin had a whopping deficit of $3.6 billion dollars. But a cooperate tax cut and collective bargaining reforms invigorated the state economy. Now, the state is boasting a $911 million surplus, credited to “good stewardship of the taxpayers’ money.”

And what will Walker do? Buy his wife a $19,000 dress? Increase his paycheck? Go on vacation?

Nope. He's proposing $800 million in tax cuts.

“What do you do with a surplus? Give it back to the people who earned it. It's your money," Walker said.
http://spectator.org/blog/57525/wisconsin-thrives-under-scott-walker

It's not that hard to skip the "He's not as bad as hilary" and show his policies work.  That negative "they're worse than us" didn't work for romney or mccain. 

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2015, 10:26:54 AM »
Walker busted the Union THUGS and stood up to them through everything.  Showed balls of steel staring down the far left communist pos like Obama and strapajamafag support

tell me how he is doing on job growth or growth of median household income

you know, things that are actually a measure of economic growth in the state

or was this post just one of the 20 times today that you NEED to say fag to fulfill the requirements of your OCD?

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2015, 10:27:36 AM »
I prefer tossing insults at straw and the left.    ;)

Yes, balls are nice, but "showing balls" is what high school jocks do while flexing in the end zone while losing 42-7.

Do you have link showing Walker turned around economy? 

See, I'll start:

In 2011, Wisconsin had a whopping deficit of $3.6 billion dollars. But a cooperate tax cut and collective bargaining reforms invigorated the state economy. Now, the state is boasting a $911 million surplus, credited to “good stewardship of the taxpayers’ money.”

And what will Walker do? Buy his wife a $19,000 dress? Increase his paycheck? Go on vacation?

Nope. He's proposing $800 million in tax cuts.

“What do you do with a surplus? Give it back to the people who earned it. It's your money," Walker said.
http://spectator.org/blog/57525/wisconsin-thrives-under-scott-walker

It's not that hard to skip the "He's not as bad as hilary" and show his policies work.  That negative "they're worse than us" didn't work for romney or mccain. 

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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2015, 10:28:01 AM »
I prefer tossing insults at straw and the left.    ;)


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Re: I'm really starting to like Scott Walker
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2015, 10:28:33 AM »
tell me how he is doing on job growth or growth of median household income

you know, things that are actually a measure of economic growth in the state

or was this post just one of the 20 times today that you NEED to say fag to fulfill the requirements of your OCD?

VS what - NYS and RI or other democrat 100% controlled hell holes?