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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #575 on: September 06, 2016, 02:39:25 PM »
Poll: Nine weeks out, a near even race
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director
Tue September 6, 2016

Washington (CNN) — Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton start the race to November 8 on essentially even ground, with Trump edging Clinton by a scant two points among likely voters, and the contest sparking sharp divisions along demographic lines in a new CNN/ORC Poll.

Trump tops Clinton 45% to 43% in the new survey, with Libertarian Gary Johnson standing at 7% among likely voters in this poll and the Green Party's Jill Stein at just 2%.

How Donald Trump could win

The topsy-turvy campaign for the presidency has seen both Clinton and Trump holding a significant lead at some point in the last two months, though Clinton has topped Trump more often than not. Most recently, Clinton's convention propelled her to an 8-point lead among registered voters in an early-August CNN/ORC Poll. Clinton's lead has largely evaporated despite a challenging month for Trump, which saw an overhaul of his campaign staff, announcements of support for Clinton from several high-profile Republicans and criticism of his campaign strategy. But most voters say they still expect to see Clinton prevail in November, and 59% think she will be the one to get to 270 electoral votes vs. 34% who think Trump has the better shot at winning.

Neither major third party candidate appears to be making the gains necessary to reach the 15% threshold set by the Commission on Presidential Debates, with just three weeks to go before the first debate on September 26.

The new poll finds the two major party candidates provoke large gaps by gender, age, race, education and partisanship. Among those likely to turn out in the fall, both candidates have secured about the same share of their own partisans (92% of Democrats back Clinton, 90% of Republicans are behind Trump) but independents give Trump an edge, 49% say they'd vote for him while just 29% of independent voters back Clinton. Another 16% back Johnson, 6% Stein.

Women break for Clinton (53% to 38%) while men shift Trump's way (54% to 32%). Among women, those who are unmarried make up the core of her support, 73% of unmarried women back Clinton compared with just 36% of married women. Among men, no such marriage gap emerges, as both unmarried and married men favor Trump.

Younger voters are in Clinton's corner (54% to 29% among those under age 45) while the older ones are more apt to back Trump (54% to 39% among those age 45 or older). Whites mostly support Trump (55% to 34%), while non-whites favor Clinton by a nearly 4-to-1 margin (71% to 18%). Most college grads back Clinton while those without degrees mostly support Trump, and that divide deepens among white voters. Whites who do not hold college degrees support Trump by an almost 3-to-1 margin (68% to 24%) while whites who do have college degrees split 49% for Clinton to 36% for Trump and 11% for Johnson.

Support for Johnson seems to be concentrated among groups where Clinton could stand to benefit from consolidating voters. Although direct comparison between the poll's two-way, head-to-head matchup and its four-way matchup doesn't suggest that Johnson is pulling disproportionately from either candidate, his supporters come mostly among groups where a strong third-party bid could harm Clinton's standing: Younger voters (particularly younger men), whites with college degrees, and independents, notably.

The poll follows several national polls in August suggesting that the margin between the two candidates had tightened following the conventions. A CNN Poll of Polls analysis released Friday showed that Clinton's lead had been cut in half when compared with the height of her convention bounce.

Speaking to reporters aboard her campaign plane Tuesday, Clinton shrugged off a question about the CNN/ORC survey.

"I really pay no attention to polls. When they are good for me -- and there have been a lot of them that have been good for me recently -- I don't pay attention," Clinton said. "When they are not so good, I don't pay attention. We are on a course that we are sticking with."

While enthusiasm for the campaign has continued to inch up, it remains well off the mark compared with this point in other recent presidential election years. In the new poll, 46% say they are extremely or very enthusiastic, compared with 57% at this point in 2012, 60% in early September of 2008 and 64% in September 2004.

Further, nearly half of voters say they are less enthusiastic about voting in this election than they have been in previous years, while just 42% say they're more excited about this year's contest. Although this question hasn't been asked in every presidential election year, in CNN/ORC and CNN/USA Today/Gallup results dating back to 2000, this poll marks the first time that a significantly larger share of voters say they are less enthusiastic about this year's election. The lack of enthusiasm spikes among Clinton supporters. A majority of Clinton's supporters say they're less excited about voting this year than usual (55%) while most of Trump's backers say they're more excited this time around (56%)

That could be contributing to Trump's slim advantage among likely voters. Among the broader pool of registered voters, Clinton edges Trump by 3 points. The shift among these voters since the convention is largely due to a rebound in Trump's numbers rather than a slide in Clinton's. He's gone from 37% support then to 41% among registered voters now.

Trump holds an edge over Clinton as more trusted to handle two of voters' top four issues -- the economy (56% trust Trump vs. 41% Clinton) and terrorism (51% Trump to 45% Clinton). Clinton holds a solid edge on foreign policy (56% trust her to Trump's 40%), and the public is divided over the fourth issue in the bunch, immigration. On that, 49% favor Clinton's approach, 47% Trump's. At Trump's recent campaign appearances, he has argued that he would do more to improve life for racial and ethnic minorities, but voters seem to disagree, 58% say Clinton is better on that score vs. 36% who choose Trump, and among non-whites, 86% choose Clinton to just 12% who think Trump would better improve their lives.

Trump has his largest edge of the campaign as the more honest and trustworthy of the two major candidates (50% say he is more honest and trustworthy vs. just 35% choosing Clinton) and as the stronger leader, 50% to 42%. Clinton continues to be seen as holding the better temperament to serve effectively as president (56% to 36%) and better able to handle the responsibilities of commander in chief (50% to 45%).

On honesty, Clinton's backers express greater skepticism about their candidate than do Trump's supporters. When asked which candidate is more honest and trustworthy, 94% of Trump's backers say he is, while just 70% of those behind Clinton choose her, with 11% saying Trump is more trustworthy and 17% saying neither of them are. And when voters were asked to name the one issue that would be most important to their vote for president, 5% named honesty or trustworthiness as their top choice, ranking it on par with foreign policy and jobs.

Both candidates remain largely unliked, with majorities saying they have an unfavorable view of each candidate in the new poll.

The CNN/ORC Poll was conducted by telephone Sept. 1-4 among a random national sample of 1,001 adults. The survey includes results among 886 registered voters and 786 likely voters. For results among registered or likely voters, the margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #576 on: September 06, 2016, 02:47:15 PM »
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LMFAO - the only reason to vote Trump - which i will right now - is for the left wing meltdown

Should he be elected President, leftists won't be the only ones melting down, those on the right will be too.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #577 on: September 07, 2016, 10:43:50 AM »
Moody's economic model finds Clinton pulling away from Trump
By Vicki Needham - 09/06/16

Low gas prices and President Obama’s rising popularity are bolstering Hillary Clinton's chances of winning the White House, according to a closely followed economic election model from Moody's Analytics.

The August model forecasts that Clinton will notch a win over Trump, in part thanks to historically low gas prices and Obama’s popularity.

The model, which chooses a party, not a candidate, to win, awards Electoral College votes based on state-by-state outcomes.

The most important economic variable is income growth by state, including job and wage growth, hours worked and the quality of the jobs being created in the two years leading up to an election.

The latest forecast puts 16 states, which includes Washington, D.C., firmly in Democratic territory, with 11 more leaning in that direction for a total of 332 electoral votes.

Republicans hold comfortable leads in 21 states, with three more leaning red, giving its candidate 206 electoral voters.

“It’s important to once again note that the model’s projections are solely a reflection of economic and political conditions upon the incumbent party, and do not take any aspects of the individual candidates into account,” said Dan White, a Moody’s economist who compiles the monthly model.

“Given the unusual nature of the 2016 election cycle to date, it is possible that voters will react to changing economic and political conditions differently than they have in past election cycles, placing some risk in the model outcome,” White said.

Moody's, which has predicted every election correctly since it was created in 1980, has forecast a Democratic victory since the release of its first run in July 2015.

With no major shift expected in gas prices or Obama’s popularity in the two months leading up to the November election, the model is unlikely to move into Trump’s favor, Moody's suggested.

The Moody’s equation also includes a dummy variable that penalizes Democrat incumbents, stemming from the theory that Democrats and Democrat-leaning independent voters are more likely to switch sides and vote for a Republican candidate than vice versa.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/294635-clinton-gains-ground-over-trump-in-economic-model

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #578 on: September 07, 2016, 10:49:20 AM »
One of many "Never Trump" people who will be voting for Trump.

Radio host Levin reverses: ‘I’m gonna vote for Donald Trump’
By Joe Concha
September 06, 2016

After once declaring he could never support Donald Trump as the Republican presidential nominee, Mark Levin changed his mind with a big announcement on his radio program Tuesday.

“I’m gonna vote for Donald Trump. I’m gonna wind up voting for Donald Trump on Election Day," the talk radio host said after reiterating his perspective that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was a far better choice for conservatives.

"I take no responsibility for the dumb things he says or the dumb things his surrogates say," he added of the GOP nominee and his campaign.

Levin's endorsement comes five months after unequivocally stating, "I am not voting for Donald Trump. Period.”

The 58-year-old syndicated radio host also noted that Trump has an uphill climb to win the White House, despite some recent national polls showing him tied or in the lead.

“Trump, despite the CNN poll [showing him 2 points up on Hillary Clinton Tuesday], has a lot of work to do to make up ground in these battleground states,” he said.

“But Hillary is so awful, I just don't know. I'm not in the prediction business."

Levin worked in the Ronald Reagan administration as a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. He began his radio program in 2002.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294735-radio-host-levin-reverses-course-im-gonna-vote-for-donald

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #579 on: September 07, 2016, 10:54:49 AM »
Trump Calls Clinton ‘Trigger Happy,’ Lists Proposals to ‘Update and Upgrade’ Military
by ALEX SWOYER
7 Sep 2016
Washington, DC

Donald Trump is zeroing in on national security, foreign policy and America’s military.

During a speech in Philadelphia, the Republican blasted his rival Hillary Clinton — describing her record as “disqualifying.”

“In a Trump administration, our actions in the Middle East will be tempered by realism,” Trump stated, explaining that regime change produces radical terrorism. During his remarks at the Union League of Philadelphia he added, “we can make new friends, rebuild old alliances and bring new allies into the fold. I’m proud to have the support of war fighting generals.”

The Union League of Philadelphia has roughly 3,000 members, according to the Associated Press, and began in 1862 in support of President Abraham Lincoln and the Union.

Trump blasted his rival’s record as secretary of state on foreign policy and national security, saying he will be guided by “diplomacy, not destruction.”

“She’s trigger happy and very unstable,” the New Yorker stated of Clinton, also calling her “reckless” over her use of a personal server with classified emails during her time as secretary of state.

Trump criticized Clinton’s handling of Libya, Syria, ISIS and Iran. “What have we gotten from the horrible decisions made from President Obama and Secretary Clinton?” Trump questioned.

An NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll published early Wednesday showed that voters who currently serve in the military or previously served prefer Trump over Clinton by 19 points.

The Republican nominee laid out several proposals in a campaign press release ahead of his speech about how to “update and upgrade” the U.S. military.

The press release lists Trump’s 10 proposals:

PROPOSAL: Immediately after taking office, Mr. Trump will ask the generals to present a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will ask Congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military as soon as he assumes office.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an active Army of around 540,000, as the Army’s chief of staff has said he needs.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Marine Corps based on 36 battalions, which the Heritage Foundation notes is the minimum needed to deal with major contingencies.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Navy approaching 350 surface ships and submarines, as recommended by the bipartisan National Defense Panel.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an Air Force of at least 1,200 fighter aircraft, which the Heritage Foundation has shown to be needed to execute current missions.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will seek to develop a state of the art missile defense system.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will modernize our nation’s naval cruisers to provide Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will enforce all classification rules, and enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information.

PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.

NBC News is hosting Trump and Clinton in a Commander-in-Chief forum on Wednesday at 8 p.m. They will answer questions on military affairs, veterans issues and national security.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/07/trump-calls-clinton-trigger-happy-lists-proposals-update-upgrade-military/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #580 on: September 07, 2016, 11:13:43 AM »
Did Clinton really say "I love War" this week? 

If so... what a completely asinine thing to say.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #581 on: September 07, 2016, 11:16:10 AM »
Did Clinton really say "I love War" this week? 

If so... what a completely asinine thing to say.

Remember what she said about Gadafi?  hhhmmmmm?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #582 on: September 07, 2016, 11:32:48 AM »
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PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.

You mean he'd rather do this, than say "oops" to disaster as he cracks down on innocent citizens?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #583 on: September 07, 2016, 11:34:42 AM »
Remember what she said about Gadafi?  hhhmmmmm?

didn't hillary try to rent real estate to kadaffi in NYC when nobody else would?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #584 on: September 07, 2016, 11:41:40 AM »
Trump Calls Clinton ‘Trigger Happy,’ Lists Proposals to ‘Update and Upgrade’ Military
by ALEX SWOYER
7 Sep 2016
Washington, DC

Donald Trump is zeroing in on national security, foreign policy and America’s military.

During a speech in Philadelphia, the Republican blasted his rival Hillary Clinton — describing her record as “disqualifying.”

“In a Trump administration, our actions in the Middle East will be tempered by realism,” Trump stated, explaining that regime change produces radical terrorism. During his remarks at the Union League of Philadelphia he added, “we can make new friends, rebuild old alliances and bring new allies into the fold. I’m proud to have the support of war fighting generals.”

The Union League of Philadelphia has roughly 3,000 members, according to the Associated Press, and began in 1862 in support of President Abraham Lincoln and the Union.

Trump blasted his rival’s record as secretary of state on foreign policy and national security, saying he will be guided by “diplomacy, not destruction.”

“She’s trigger happy and very unstable,” the New Yorker stated of Clinton, also calling her “reckless” over her use of a personal server with classified emails during her time as secretary of state.

Trump criticized Clinton’s handling of Libya, Syria, ISIS and Iran. “What have we gotten from the horrible decisions made from President Obama and Secretary Clinton?” Trump questioned.

An NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll published early Wednesday showed that voters who currently serve in the military or previously served prefer Trump over Clinton by 19 points.

The Republican nominee laid out several proposals in a campaign press release ahead of his speech about how to “update and upgrade” the U.S. military.

The press release lists Trump’s 10 proposals:

PROPOSAL: Immediately after taking office, Mr. Trump will ask the generals to present a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will ask Congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military as soon as he assumes office.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an active Army of around 540,000, as the Army’s chief of staff has said he needs.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Marine Corps based on 36 battalions, which the Heritage Foundation notes is the minimum needed to deal with major contingencies.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Navy approaching 350 surface ships and submarines, as recommended by the bipartisan National Defense Panel.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an Air Force of at least 1,200 fighter aircraft, which the Heritage Foundation has shown to be needed to execute current missions.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will seek to develop a state of the art missile defense system.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will modernize our nation’s naval cruisers to provide Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will enforce all classification rules, and enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information.

PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.

NBC News is hosting Trump and Clinton in a Commander-in-Chief forum on Wednesday at 8 p.m. They will answer questions on military affairs, veterans issues and national security.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/07/trump-calls-clinton-trigger-happy-lists-proposals-update-upgrade-military/

Seriously, I like it.  He has a plan to sort through all the bullshit piling up in the last 15 years.  

Way I see it, that makes it Trump or nothing.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #585 on: September 07, 2016, 11:43:12 AM »
Nothing? How does that work?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #586 on: September 07, 2016, 11:46:11 AM »
Nothing? How does that work?

That's what we'll be left with, Prime.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #587 on: September 07, 2016, 11:50:12 AM »
Having a hard time seeing how Trump doesn't extend his lead in the coming weeks.

Hillary is about to step right into his preferred environment, the debate stage.

The man is so quick on his feet when it comes to one on one confrontations.

She will be completely out of her element and exposed in a slugfest like that.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #588 on: September 07, 2016, 11:56:35 AM »
Having a hard time seeing how Trump doesn't extend his lead in the coming weeks.
Hillary is about to step right into his preferred environment, the debate stage.
The man is so quick on his feet when it comes to one on one confrontations.
She will be completely out of her element and exposed in a slugfest like that.

Statistically, he peaked on Monday.  I have a cool thread following it day by day.   He hit 42% nationally on Monday, and has dropped .3% since Monday.   It was the perfect storm of items, and it worked well, but so far, Trump has never hit 45% nationally, and has yet to do so.  The "climb" he had may be over.  Everyone peaks at times.

For the debates, we should remember two things.

1) Hilary did better than Obama when they met... she knows issues, policy, leaders, and can pretty much answer everything with real information.

2) Trump (very good on tv, very quick with insults) is awesome at very brief answers, where he restates the question, relates it to himself, then explains how it's related to our nation winning - all while kinda not answering any specifics.

If she gets sick, yes, she can be hurt.  If not, I don't know what miracle can help Trump move up the 5 points he really needs.  He faded in the last few debates with Cruz and Rubio, because he had longer time slots to fill with answers.  He has NEVER given specifics on most policies, I think even his supporters realize that.

Last night, his answer on "cyber" was that of a 5th grader bullshitting his way thru writing a paragraph.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #589 on: September 07, 2016, 12:02:37 PM »
I hope to see Trump round-up people for questioning, from the last two administrations.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #590 on: September 07, 2016, 12:09:38 PM »
I hope to see Trump round-up people for questioning, from the last two administrations.

There are moments of honesty where Trump displays really liberal leanings regarding his policies.

July of last year, he did admit the "good ones" can stay, when talking about illegal aliens.  Said the opposite for a year, but did say this.
Last summer he did say we have to take in syrian refugees because it's the right thing to do.
He said on howard stern yeah, I guess I do support invading Iraq.

Libya... he was just on TV roasting hilary for it TODAY... but in 2011, he said on his video blog that he supports invading and taking him out

""You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst," Trump said. "Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before."

And then ...

"But we have go in to save these lives; these people are being slaughtered like animals," Trump said. "It’s horrible what’s going on; it has to be stopped. We should do on a humanitarian basis, immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly, very surgically, very effectively, and save the lives."



So really, if/when trump is elected president, he's going to act like a liberal.  Tiger cannot change his stripes.  Lifetime of supporting liberal causes and politicians, and magically changes parties the minute the black dude beats Hilary. Hmmmm

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #591 on: September 07, 2016, 12:19:31 PM »
Having a hard time seeing how Trump doesn't extend his lead in the coming weeks.

Hillary is about to step right into his preferred environment, the debate stage.

The man is so quick on his feet when it comes to one on one confrontations.

She will be completely out of her element and exposed in a slugfest like that.

I agree he probably takes a bit of a lead in the coming weeks, if he continues what he has been doing the past couple weeks. 

I also think this health thing has legs.  I wonder what they will be shooting her up with before the debates to keep her from coughing, and whether it will dull her senses a bit? 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #592 on: September 07, 2016, 12:36:09 PM »
I agree he probably takes a bit of a lead in the coming weeks, if he continues what he has been doing the past couple weeks. 

According to the aggregate of all national polls, Trump is now dropping.  Down to 41.2% national average as of today.   

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton


By the theories of getbiggers, he should easily be getting 43 and 44%.  Nationally, tho, as I keep saying, he likely peaked MOnday.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #593 on: September 07, 2016, 12:47:54 PM »
I agree he probably takes a bit of a lead in the coming weeks, if he continues what he has been doing the past couple weeks. 

I also think this health thing has legs.  I wonder what they will be shooting her up with before the debates to keep her from coughing, and whether it will dull her senses a bit? 

No matter what we imagine will happen during the debates, they should be interesting. Both candidates seem fairly intelligent. One has more political experience and the other appeals to those who want change, regardless of what that change is. One tends to remain composed and the other has a history of loosing control. One coughs and trips and the other sidetracks the questions put forth. Yes, these debates should be entertaining, if nothing else. Who wins or who loses will likely be in the "eyes of the beholder" because that is the way it usually goes with these things.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #594 on: September 07, 2016, 08:25:04 PM »
Am I imagining it, or is Trump sharpening up as we close in?  When's the last time he's said anything outrageous?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #595 on: September 07, 2016, 08:31:58 PM »
Am I imagining it, or is Trump sharpening up as we close in?  When's the last time he's said anything outrageous?

tonight.

Trump says he could tell his classified intel briefers aren't happy with Obama because of their body language.


Trump again praised Putin.   If in 2008, Senator Barack Obama had praised Putin as a better President than the American, Republicans would have demanded he quit race.


Trump said undocumented immigrants can stay if they want to join the military.


Trump said "You know, it used to be to the victor belong the spoils. Now, there was no victor there, believe me. There was no victor. But I always said: Take the oil."

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #596 on: September 07, 2016, 08:35:38 PM »
tonight.

Trump says he could tell his classified intel briefers aren't happy with Obama because of their body language.


Trump again praised Putin.   If in 2008, Senator Barack Obama had praised Putin as a better President than the American, Republicans would have demanded he quit race.


Trump said undocumented immigrants can stay if they want to join the military.


Trump said "You know, it used to be to the victor belong the spoils. Now, there was no victor there, believe me. There was no victor. But I always said: Take the oil."

What about Harry Reid's advice to give false info as intel?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #597 on: September 07, 2016, 08:36:20 PM »
Trump says he could tell his classified intel briefers aren't happy with Obama because of their body language.

Trump again praised Putin.   If in 2008, Senator Barack Obama had praised Putin as a better President than the American, Republicans would have demanded he quit race.

Trump said undocumented immigrants can stay if they want to join the military.

Trump said "You know, it used to be to the victor belong the spoils. Now, there was no victor there, believe me. There was no victor. But I always said: Take the oil."


True.   His continual praise of the Russian leader = bullshit.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #598 on: September 08, 2016, 08:34:28 AM »
Two months from Election Day, Donald Trump’s swing state map is shrinking.

Interviews with more than two dozen Republican operatives, state party officials and elected leaders suggest three of the 11 battleground states identified by POLITICO — Colorado, New Hampshire and Virginia — are tilting so heavily toward Hillary Clinton that they're close to unwinnable for the GOP presidential nominee. But Trump remains within striking distance in the remaining eight states, including electoral giants Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The increasing likelihood that Colorado, New Hampshire and Virginia are out of reach heightens the urgency for the Republican nominee to win those still-competitive states — and to recapture steam in Pennsylvania, where he once looked formidable but now trails by 10 points, according to POLITICO’s Battleground States polling average.
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With just four electoral votes, New Hampshire is the smallest swing-state prize. The prospective loss of Virginia, with its 13 electoral votes, is a bigger problem.

“Anything you’re going to spend on Trump is a waste at this point,” said David Ramadan, a former Virginia House member and GOP activist. “The overall vote is going to be determined by Northern Virginia and the Tidewater area. Those two areas are not going to go on the Trump side.”..........................

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #599 on: September 08, 2016, 10:12:43 AM »
Trump Calls Clinton ‘Trigger Happy,’ Lists Proposals to ‘Update and Upgrade’ Military
by ALEX SWOYER
7 Sep 2016
Washington, DC

Donald Trump is zeroing in on national security, foreign policy and America’s military.

During a speech in Philadelphia, the Republican blasted his rival Hillary Clinton — describing her record as “disqualifying.”

“In a Trump administration, our actions in the Middle East will be tempered by realism,” Trump stated, explaining that regime change produces radical terrorism. During his remarks at the Union League of Philadelphia he added, “we can make new friends, rebuild old alliances and bring new allies into the fold. I’m proud to have the support of war fighting generals.”

The Union League of Philadelphia has roughly 3,000 members, according to the Associated Press, and began in 1862 in support of President Abraham Lincoln and the Union.

Trump blasted his rival’s record as secretary of state on foreign policy and national security, saying he will be guided by “diplomacy, not destruction.”

“She’s trigger happy and very unstable,” the New Yorker stated of Clinton, also calling her “reckless” over her use of a personal server with classified emails during her time as secretary of state.

Trump criticized Clinton’s handling of Libya, Syria, ISIS and Iran. “What have we gotten from the horrible decisions made from President Obama and Secretary Clinton?” Trump questioned.

An NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll published early Wednesday showed that voters who currently serve in the military or previously served prefer Trump over Clinton by 19 points.

The Republican nominee laid out several proposals in a campaign press release ahead of his speech about how to “update and upgrade” the U.S. military.

The press release lists Trump’s 10 proposals:

PROPOSAL: Immediately after taking office, Mr. Trump will ask the generals to present a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will ask Congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military as soon as he assumes office.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an active Army of around 540,000, as the Army’s chief of staff has said he needs.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Marine Corps based on 36 battalions, which the Heritage Foundation notes is the minimum needed to deal with major contingencies.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Navy approaching 350 surface ships and submarines, as recommended by the bipartisan National Defense Panel.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an Air Force of at least 1,200 fighter aircraft, which the Heritage Foundation has shown to be needed to execute current missions.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will seek to develop a state of the art missile defense system.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will modernize our nation’s naval cruisers to provide Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will enforce all classification rules, and enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information.

PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.

NBC News is hosting Trump and Clinton in a Commander-in-Chief forum on Wednesday at 8 p.m. They will answer questions on military affairs, veterans issues and national security.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/07/trump-calls-clinton-trigger-happy-lists-proposals-update-upgrade-military/

I've been thinking about this ever since reading it.  If Trump isn't serious about the race, we sure wouldn't know it by these proposals.  

Two points in particular, that imo give all reason necessary to want to see him in office:

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PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.

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PROPOSAL: Immediately after taking office, Mr. Trump will ask the generals to present a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

The first one is something everyone should be very concerned about, because the threat has all the potential to destroy everything we love about our country as it kills people by the millions.  And it remains unaddressed to any serious degree, which should piss-off every person here.

The second one involves putting everything ISIS-related on the table, and getting to the facts about who is doing what and how.  Make it perfectly clear as to the best way to remove the potential from it, so we can get back to our lives without anyone being able to use it as an excuse to impose and intrude on us.

Straight away, these things tell us he wants to end the game that's been played for the past two administrations.  It also says someone very aware and in-tune is advising him, and that he's listening to that advice.