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How do they live with themselves? Or are they completely evil?
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??? What's wrong with abortion?
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??? What's wrong with abortion?
What's wrong with killing babies? You missing a moral compass bro?
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ostrich syndrome.. can't see the fetus, it's not there.
idfk. i don't think they really care beyond a check, pro-choice politicians, and living close enough to some trendy bar scene so they can get slutty on the weekends and tell everyone how great it is to live in the city while barely making payments on a pink yaris.
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What's wrong with killing babies? You missing a moral compass bro?
Do you disagree with it totally or do you have any exceptions when its acceptable?
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idfk. i don't think they really care beyond a check, pro-choice politicians, and living close enough to some trendy bar scene so they can get slutty on the weekends and tell everyone how great it is to live in the city while barely making payments on a pink yaris.
lol - so "on the mark" there! Pathetic creatures.
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Do you disagree with it totally or do you have any exceptions when its acceptable?
I think MOST cases are clearly wrong and evil.
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So what if the mothers life is in danger?
What if daddy raped daughter?
What if your wife raped by a black man, you gonna carry that child full term and raise him?
What if you got a fat chick pregnant? ;D
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I think MOST cases are clearly wrong and evil.
I take it from that answer you havent really thought it through.
So answer this, whos rights are stronger, the mothers or the babies?
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I take it from that answer you havent really thought it through.
So answer this, whos rights are stronger, the mothers or the babies?
I have thought about it quite a lot. You're question is quite naive though. It comes down to the mother's ethics.
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So what if the mothers life is in danger?
What if daddy raped daughter?
What if your wife raped by a black man, you gonna carry that child full term and raise him?
What if you got a fat chick pregnant? ;D
those might be exceptions. even the ridiculous ones have some merit. even asking 'what kind of life is this kid gonna have?' is relevant.
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I take it from that answer you havent really thought it through.
So answer this, whos rights are stronger, the mothers or the babies?
excellent point. problem is most pro-choice people don't think the fetus has any rights while usually trying to justify the woman's stupidity and selfishness with poor associations with actual rights.
bottom line from a moral standpoint is that human life has rights and if you believe in basic human rights they win by default. clearly simplifying the argument but a strong one nonetheless.
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I have thought about it quite a lot. You're question is quite naive though. It comes down to the mother's ethics.
Stop dodging the question, I knew you hadnt thought it through.
What has the mothers ethics got to do with the rights of an unborn baby?
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Stop dodging the question, I knew you hadnt thought it through.
What has the mothers ethics got to do with the rights of an unborn baby?
You don't see the connection between ethics and choosing whether to kill a baby?
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You don't see the connection between ethics and choosing whether to kill a baby?
Nice dodge again.
Try again
Whos rights are stronger, the mother or the baby?
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Nice dodge again.
Try again
Whos rights are stronger, the mother or the baby?
Each has equal rights.
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Each has equal rights.
Equal rights only exist until your right impedes on another, in the case of abortion the mothers right to choose an abortion breeches the foetus right to life.
Try again.
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All joking and trolling aside, I believe most people who have abortions have either some remorse or at least some type of mental stress over it. Not a decision one takes lightly I assume.
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All joking and trolling aside, I believe most people who have abortions have either some remorse or at least some type of mental stress over it. Not a decision one takes lightly I assume.
I wouldnt worry, I think hes kicking himself for starting this thread now.
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Equal rights only exist until your right impedes on another, in the case of abortion the mothers right to choose an abortion breeches the foetus right to life.
Try again.
Thanks for sharing your personal opinion.
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All joking and trolling aside, I believe most people who have abortions have either some remorse or at least some type of mental stress over it. Not a decision one takes lightly I assume.
Yes, many are torn up with guilt. At least they feel guilty - it shows there is hope for them.
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Thanks for sharing your personal opinion.
I think you will find your thread starter is your opinion as well.
Thanks for confirming abortions OK when it suits your rules.
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I think you will find your thread starter is your opinion as well.
Thanks for confirming abortions OK when it suits your rules.
you killed your baby bro?
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you killed your baby bro?
No, just your thread.
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No, just your thread.
thread is alive bro
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excellent point. problem is most pro-choice people don't think the fetus has any rights while usually trying to justify the woman's stupidity and selfishness with poor associations with actual rights.
bottom line from a moral standpoint is that human life has rights and if you believe in basic human rights they win by default. clearly simplifying the argument but a strong one nonetheless.
That opens up the whole "where does human life start" argument.
IMO a functional nervous system and the ability to survive without an incubator is where life starts. And being intellectually honest, that is also where life should end, if neither of those criteria is fulfilled.
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thread is alive bro
Not too late for an abortion.
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the people in the Abortion industry must be taking a real hit from this political correctness era
I mean- people aren't ashamed to have retarded kids anymore
Remember that documentary "300" where if you were a baby boy and you had like a disability they would just throw you in the ocean.......ah, the good old days
shit- if that was the case there would still be 39 kindergartners alive in Sandy Hook and there would be less Vince Goodrum threads
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The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child. I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.
Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers ::)
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The unborn is property of the mum unfortunately.
In cases of rape, fatal diseases I agree with removing "it" although it's ultimately the women's choice and as a man such issues, including vaginal health, are not on my agenda.
It's like if I practice sniffing my balls or not - off limits for women.
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I cry into a pillow every night
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The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child. I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.
Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers ::)
A society which kills 55 million babies is evil, so there is some truth in what you say. But a society which cherishes life would not fit the image you have described.
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The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child. I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.
Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers ::)
Good points. Another argument I bring up is that a large percentage of people who have abortions are black. So the question I ask the pro lifers is why aren't you running out adopting some black babies? Put your money where your mouth is. No, no it's easier just to push agendas and beliefs on others.
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Real peoples stories. Very sad and disturbing.
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People who are ardently against abortion support the following:
- Environmental destruction
- Higher violent crime rates
- Increased poverty
- Animal cruelty
- Increase in the amount of thugs wearing police uniforms
- Increase in prison construction
- Man-made Climate Change (real or not)
- Illiteracy and ignorance
Have you been to the Philippines? It is dominated by the Catholic Church, a series of gleaming towers and buildings surrounded by millions of poor, uneducated "squatters" that trash the very land they tread upon, squatter families having upwards of 12 children at a time.
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That opens up the whole "where does human life start" argument.
IMO a functional nervous system and the ability to survive without an incubator is where life starts. And being intellectually honest, that is also where life should end, if neither of those criteria is fulfilled.
true, i believe it should be based on that. but i think a lot of ppl think your criteria is a little reckless. erring on the side of safety is prolly the best bet. again, opinion.
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The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child. I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.
Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers ::)
^prolly the best argument for abortion there is (even a generally pro-life person like myself agrees)
..but let's not pretend that the good of society is on the mind of most getting and supporting abortions. it's preservation of one's lifestyle and little else.
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The unborn is property of the mum unfortunately.
In cases of rape, fatal diseases I agree with removing "it" although it's ultimately the women's choice and as a man such issues, including vaginal health, are not on my agenda.
It's like if I practice sniffing my balls or not - off limits for women.
not so sure about the 'property' issue. women biologically carry another life in them. that doesn't necessarily give them a right to kill a living being whether it's inside or out. tough for them but they should get over that mental hurdle and at least give it the credit a fetus deserves.
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Real peoples stories. Very sad and disturbing.
a jones is nutjob. agree with his values for the most part but he still lives in imagination land.
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People who are ardently against abortion support the following:
- Environmental destruction
- Higher violent crime rates
- Increased poverty
- Animal cruelty
- Increase in the amount of thugs wearing police uniforms
- Increase in prison construction
- Man-made Climate Change (real or not)
- Illiteracy and ignorance
Have you been to the Philippines? It is dominated by the Catholic Church, a series of gleaming towers and buildings surrounded by millions of poor, uneducated "squatters" that trash the very land they tread upon, squatter families having upwards of 12 children at a time.
dumbest and most inaccurate post ever. what you describe more closely mimics socialism (aka: liberalism) and every socialist/communist country i can imagine.
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All joking and trolling aside, I believe most people who have abortions have either some remorse or at least some type of mental stress over it. Not a decision one takes lightly I assume.
Doubt it. But this is a good thing.
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leave the decision to the woman and thats that.
i mean where is the start, is using a condom an indirect abortion too?
nobdoy does abortion for fun.
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leave the decision to the woman and thats that.
i mean where is the start, is using a condom an indirect abortion too?
nobdoy does abortion for fun.
Agreed on the "womans choice" point but wearing a condom isn't really abortion as there isn't a foetus, a sperm is only half the job.
The op agrees to abortion in certain circumstances yet starts a thread castigating the people performing the abortions he is fine with?????
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Agreed on the "womans choice" point but wearing a condom isn't really abortion as there isn't a foetus, a sperm is only half the job.
The op agrees to abortion in certain circumstances yet starts a thread castigating the people performing the abortions he is fine with?????
might be with you on his motives but he has a point about the 'type' who gravitates to work in that industry and their motives.
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I think people who are against abortion should pay more in taxes and government aid to the welfare babies. I also think they should be given incentive or forced to adopt since they seem to think overpopulation is a positive thing.
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I think people who are against abortion should pay more in taxes and government aid to the welfare babies. I also think they should be given incentive or forced to adopt since they seem to think overpopulation is a positive thing.
no. but i'd pay extra to ensure those unfit to have kids don't/can't get prego in the first place. especially if those that did paid extra to support the welfare state for which they demand.
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Yes Agenda. It's pure evil. Simple as that.
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no. but i'd pay extra to ensure those unfit to have kids don't/can't get prego in the first place. especially if those that did paid extra to support the welfare state for which they demand.
No, you should pay more to support the welfare babies and suffer a penalty for allowing the standard of living to be lowered.
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might be with you on his motives but he has a point about the 'type' who gravitates to work in that industry and their motives.
hold on, are there abortion only nurses?
here there arent.
nurses and docs are very good ppl, doing jobs that nobody else can be bothered with.
they have to have steels of nerves,they see repulsive things during ops, or when ppl are delivered with wounds etc.
life in danger, boom, theres no fucking about must pust hands into bowels if need be.
i have yet to see 1 doc or nurse whos there for the wrong motives.well, excpet the beauty-op docs ;D
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No, you should pay more to support the welfare babies and suffer a penalty for allowing the standard of living to be lowered.
No. I shouldn't have to pay for another person's stupidity or irresponsibility. That's why I'm not a leftist shitbag.
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hold on, are there abortion only nurses?
here there arent.
nurses and docs are very good ppl, doing jobs that nobody else can be bothered with.
they have to have steels of nerves,they see repulsive things during ops, or when ppl are delivered with wounds etc.
life in danger, boom, theres no fucking about must pust hands into bowels if need be.
i have yet to see 1 doc or nurse whos there for the wrong motives.well, excpet the beauty-op docs ;D
i think you need to look into this. sure the credentials are similar but through their specialty and who/where they choose to offer their services yes, there are absolutely docs and nurses directing their efforts precisely in that direction just others vehemently participate against it. two docs might go to the same medical school but if one works at an abortion clinic and another in the pediatric ward at a hospital they are gearing themselves towards a practice.
irrelevant since it has nothing to do with the ops intent.
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So what if the mothers life is in danger?
What if daddy raped daughter?
What if your wife raped by a black man, you gonna carry that child full term and raise him?
What if you got a fat chick pregnant? ;D
What if your on medication that harms the unborn child? Remember the disfigured babies from moms on thalidomide?
I am on such a medication and would definitely have an abortion if I got pregnant. With these drugs I would most likely have a miscarrriage or a stillborn baby. If it would survive, it would be a disfigured monstrosity, most likely not able to survive without a lot of medical intervention. I could not willingly put such a child on this world.
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No. I shouldn't have to pay for another person's stupidity or irresponsibility. That's why I'm not a leftist shitbag.
You are correct. You are indeed a shitbag.
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How do they live with themselves? Or are they completely evil?
if only your mom made the right decision
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What if your on medication that harms the unborn child? Remember the disfigured babies from moms on thalidomide?
I am on such a medication and would definitely have an abortion if I got pregnant. With these drugs I would most likely have a miscarrriage or a stillborn baby. If it would survive, it would be a disfigured monstrosity, most likely not able to survive without a lot of medical intervention. I could not willingly put such a child on this world.
maybe this is an exception too. i think i'd have the same feelings about it.
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I cry into a pillow every night
Happens to me a lot after reading your posts.
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Happens to me a lot after reading your posts.
Boom
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not so sure about the 'property' issue. women biologically carry another life in them. that doesn't necessarily give them a right to kill a living being whether it's inside or out. tough for them but they should get over that mental hurdle and at least give it the credit a fetus deserves.
In many countries a person doesn't even have the right to kill himself... >:(
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You are correct. You are indeed a shitbag.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ron-Burgundy-That-Doesnt-Make-Any-Sense.gif)
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In many countries a person doesn't even have the right to kill himself... >:(
true and unfortunate in some ways. but a terminally ill senior in great pain has the choice and the comprehension to act on it that an aborted kid won't ever have.
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maybe this is an exception too. i think i'd have the same feelings about it.
Perhaps there are a lot of valid exceptions... In that case, abortions might not be so evil.
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What if your on medication that harms the unborn child? Remember the disfigured babies from moms on thalidomide?
I am on such a medication and would definitely have an abortion if I got pregnant. With these drugs I would most likely have a miscarrriage or a stillborn baby. If it would survive, it would be a disfigured monstrosity, most likely not able to survive without a lot of medical intervention. I could not willingly put such a child on this world.
had a similar situation when ex gf was pregnant with my first child. I was on methtrexate which is another drug that can cause birth defects.
Considered abortion as it was advised by my doctor. In the end we couldnt go though with it. He turned out absolutley perfect but it was scary times especially when she went into labour.
Now i look at him at 6 years old and get a cold shiver thinking how we could have aborted him
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Perhaps there are a lot of valid exceptions... In that case, abortions might not be so evil.
i think the trend is otherwise. there are exceptions for pretty much everything.
girls fuck around irresponsibly and then wonder why they're in the clinic doing something else they have to feel shitty about OR pump them out like vermin and don't raise/care for them properly and get paid to do it (subsidies). that's the rampant norm.
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Part of the reason why the 'abortion industry' exists, is because there are a lot of dumb people, so legal abortion is a blessing to this (overpopulated) world.
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So what if the mothers life is in danger?
Any parent worth their salt will lay down their life for their child without a second thought.
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My position....
It's your soul do what you want,........but if you don't want to kill/butcher the baby plenty of us decent folk would take it.
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Any parent worth their salt will lay down their life for their child without a second thought.
Shizzos parents?
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abortion is WRONG no matter how you slice it. WRONG!
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abortion is WRONG no matter how you slice it. WRONG!
So a woman plans a baby and during her pregnancy she gets ill and it means a termination will save her life.
Now what?
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abortion is WRONG no matter how you slice it. WRONG!
You prefer a fucked-up planet? ::)
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You prefer a fucked-up planet? ::)
the USA is plenty fucked with or without abortion. just sayin.
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So a woman plans a baby and during her pregnancy she gets ill and it means a termination will save her life.
Now what?
Her soul, her choice.....nm
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the USA is plenty fucked with or without abortion. just sayin.
That's unfortunately true and not just the US.
It's just one of the many possible methods for population-control.
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Her soul, her choice.....nm
the question was in response to Flintstones sweeping generalisation.
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This whore that me and 2 other guys were screwing got pregnant, I didn't know if the baby was mine but I didn't want to take any chances so I paid for the abortion .
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This whore that me and 2 other guys were screwing got pregnant, I didn't know if the baby was mine but I didn't want to take any chances so I paid for the abortion .
Reads like an Anabolichalo post
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Just as evil as all the men on here who blow their load into a kleenex ???
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This whore that me and 2 other guys were screwing got pregnant, I didn't know if the baby was mine but I didn't want to take any chances so I paid for the abortion .
tto expensive,couldve punched here in the gut and be done with, a 1 minute dempsey roll treatment would have done the job
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tto expensive,couldve punched here in the gut and be done with, a 1 minute dempsey roll treatment would have done the job
$400 saved me $1000's
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$400 saved me $1000's
not if you would have the "runner" post birth, like many mnay fathers do and never ever pay one cent later on, but hey its not ok to have abortion, its neither ok to have state benefits for the single mother whoms guy dont want or cant pay.
yeah let the mother raise the child and be her problem, but first and foremost no abortion.
ah this is a stupid issue, ive had my word
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54 million USA abortions since Roe V Wade in 1973. So about half that would have 2 or more kids by now. That would be at least a 100 million xtra people here to feed and find jobs in the States. Today we have the highest number of people in our history below the poverty line and 40 million on Food Stamps. The jobs in the current economy are scarce. Would the majority of these people then be impoverished or on the dole?
Just thinking. BTW I do not like abortion period…but, I believe its your choice or not and none of the govenments business.
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54 million USA abortions since Roe V Wade in 1973. So about half that would have 2 or more kids by now. That would be at least a 100 million xtra people here to feed and find jobs in the States. Today we have the highest number of people in our history below the poverty line and 40 million on Food Stamps. The jobs in the current economy are scarce. Would the majority of these people then be impoverished or on the dole?
Just thinking. BTW I do not like abortion period…but, I believe its your choice or not and none of the govenments business.
Solid post.
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the question was in response to Flintstones sweeping generalisation.
Im not talking about this. No child deserves to be brought in this world if he can't be loved and taken care of....poverty etc.
but I'm talking about an upper to middle class chick getting knocked up and now wants an abortion because she won't be able to party with her friends anymore on Friday saturday night. fuck that...you wanna be a stupid slut, then you better be prepared to be a mom.
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Im not talking about this. No child deserves to be brought in this world if he can't be loved and taken care of....poverty etc.
but I'm talking about an upper to middle class chick getting knocked up and now wants an abortion because she won't be able to party with her friends anymore on Friday saturday night. fuck that...you wanna be a stupid slut, then you better be prepared to be a mom.
So when you wrote abortion is WRONG no matter how you slice it. WRONG!
you didnt mean it?
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I'm down with abortion.
I have 2 kids... That's enough. If I had some fuckup now, I'd definitely be pro-abort... I'd be giving morning after pills like vitamins.
I'd have Planned Parenthood's number on my speed dial.
Who needs more fucking headache.
I'm 38 years old... The next diaper I need to change should be my own when I'm about 70.
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So when you wrote you didnt mean it?
hey now ;D
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"good" "evil"
lulz.....
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So what if the mothers life is in danger?
What if daddy raped daughter?
What if your wife raped by a black man, you gonna carry that child full term and raise him?
What if you got a fat chick pregnant? ;D
the baby deserves to live in all those case ;)
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leave the decision to the woman and thats that.
i mean where is the start, is using a condom an indirect abortion too?
nobdoy does abortion for fun.
it starts when there is a beating heart then it is a living being and not deserving of death.
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the baby deserves to live in all those case ;)
That will result a miserable life in many cases, any society will pay the price for that..
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I think people who are against abortion should pay more in taxes and government aid to the welfare babies. I also think they should be given incentive or forced to adopt since they seem to think overpopulation is a positive thing.
I will gladly pay more taxes and adopt a child in order for the law of abortion to be changed, no problem.
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That will result a miserable life in many cases, any society will pay the price for that..
you do not know that, a kid being born in the hood or ghettos of south central LA might kill people when he grows older but you don't convict them before they take action.
4 % of the world dies by aids and the majority are in Africa, are they not allowed to have children either because of the statistics of the future.
Every individual deserves a chance at life, if it has a heart beat it deserves a chance.
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it starts when there is a beating heart then it is a living being and not deserving of death.
it doesn't know or care at that point.
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That will result a miserable life in many cases, any society will pay the price for that..
There are many studies that show that decreases in crime are related to increases in abortion.
Poor people can't afford kids and those kids grow up to be criminals.
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I take it from that answer you havent really thought it through.
So answer this, whos rights are stronger, the mothers or the babies?
be careful. don't be calling that fucking thing a baby. once you call it a baby all the pro choice arguments go right down the shitter.
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There are many studies that show that decreases in crime are related to increases in abortion.
Poor people can't afford kids and those kids grow up to be criminals.
better abortion ... than on death row
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There are many studies that show that decreases in crime are related to increases in abortion.
Poor people can't afford kids and those kids grow up to be criminals.
no there's not. I have to find the book. but its basically by a famous statistician and he pretty much destroys those studies. there are far too many variables that occur in any persons life to make the assumption that an abortion can prevent future crime. basically what his point was that men take causation and correlation and make them interchangeable in order to come to the result that they know the people that they pander to will want to hear. its about selling books. interesting stuff.
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you do not know that, a kid being born in the hood or ghettos of south central LA might kill people when he grows older but you don't convict them before they take action.
4 % of the world dies by aids and the majority are in Africa, are they not allowed to have children either because of the statistics of the future.
Every individual deserves a chance at life, if it has a heart beat it deserves a chance.
It's not a matter of convicting them, it's a matter of probabilities/statistics. Study the family situations of prisoners, most of them come from broken or fucked up families.
Most people aren't capable anyway to raise a child so why not brain scan everyone at the age of 16? When someone fail, sterilization should follow. It's not the final solution, but it will prevent a lot of shit.
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Let's SEE what we're talking about....
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no there's not. I have to find the book. but its basically by a famous statistician and he pretty much destroys those studies. there are far too many variables that occur in any persons life to make the assumption that an abortion can prevent future crime. basically what his point was that men take causation and correlation and make them interchangeable in order to come to the result that they know the people that they pander to will want to hear. its about selling books. interesting stuff.
Actually, there are statisticians who agree with it as well.
I like how abortion gets people so mad.
Also, the post previous here with the 1/2 babies and stuff... Doesn't affect me a bit.
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More dead babies....
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Let's SEE what we're talking about....
This is clearly not a fetus anymore, you're not making a point by posting pics from an unofficial abortion.
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This is clearly not a fetus anymore, you're not making a point by posting pics from an unofficial abortion.
Partial birth abortions are legal in the US....
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How do they live with themselves? Or are they completely evil?
I've wondered about that. Regardless of your stance on abortion, what kind of doctor would want to do abortions when there are so many other areas of medicine that have to be more rewarding and less depressing.
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Partial birth abortions are legal in the US....
It's sad, but these abortions are exceptions. They're always better than miserable lives in the future.
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I've wondered about that. Regardless of your stance on abortion, what kind of doctor would want to do abortions when there are so many other areas of medicine that have to be more rewarding and less depressing.
When you work with dead bodies, I would guess you simply get anesthetized to any dead bodies. No matter how big or small.
I'm no surgeon though, I just think there are people who turn it off.
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It's sad, but these abortions are exceptions. They're always better than miserable lives in the future.
Slippery slope
"TALLAHASSEE, FL, March 30, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – If a child is born alive following a botched abortion, should the abortionist be required to try to save its life? According to a Planned Parenthood lobbyist, the child's right to life after birth should also be a matter of choice."
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It's funny how people are up in arms about abortion (on both sides), but no one cares about our real, important civil rights, like the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments.
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And I'm PRO CHOICE.....
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It's funny how people are up in arms about abortion (on both sides), but no one cares about our real, important civil rights, like the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments.
This is an abortion thread start a 1,2,4 tread and I'm sure you'll be satisfied with participation....on both sides
Content not so much ;D
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It's not a matter of convicting them, it's a matter of probabilities/statistics. Study the family situations of prisoners, most of them come from broken or fucked up families.
Most people aren't capable anyway to raise a child so why not brain scan everyone at the age of 16? When someone fail, sterilization should follow. It's not the final solution, but it will prevent a lot of shit.
well I find this idea way better then abortion.
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When you work with dead bodies, I would guess you simply get anesthetized to any dead bodies. No matter how big or small.
I'm no surgeon though, I just think there are people who turn it off.
Yeah, but how do those bright ambitious medical school students end up in a career of roto-rooting downtrodden women's vaginas everyday instead of a lucrative and rewarding area of medicine?
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This is an abortion thread start a 1,2,4 tread and I'm sure you'll be satisfied with participation....on both sides
Content not so much ;D
It's funny that liberals talk about limiting essential rights, but go ape shit if you want to limit abortion. Atleast Republicans are consistent, they want to ban everything. :-X
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Yeah, but how do those bright ambitious medical school students end up in a career of roto-rooting downtrodden women's vaginas everyday instead of a lucrative and rewarding area of medicine?
Got me... I wouldn't want it to be my thing, but I would "guess" that most of the time they do this one day a week to cover some kind of charitable thing and the rest of the time, they do their normal job.
It's funny that liberals talk about limiting essential rights, but go ape shit if you want to limit abortion. Atleast Republicans are consistent, they want to ban everything. :-X
They aren't consistent either... They both suck.
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Actually, there are statisticians who agree with it as well.
I like how abortion gets people so mad.
Also, the post previous here with the 1/2 babies and stuff... Doesn't affect me a bit.
yeah they like to sell books too.
and I like how it gets pro choice people all mad.
dead babies don't bother me either. unless they're my babies. and I don't kill my babies. I've had my fun in life, but I've always kept in mind that if I create a life, I am responsible for it. that's how I was raised.
I have 2 boys. and I will ALWAYS tell them that life begins at conception. why? BECAUSE FOR THEM, IT DOES.
if they get a girl pregnant, meaning if they conceive a child with a girl, they have ZERO choice in the matter. Only the girl does. as far as my boy is concerned, he's a father now as soon as they conceive.
unless she wants to kill it. then he's not.
but as soon as he dumps his seed into her, HE is a father unless SHE chooses otherwise. the way the US law is written, women have options. the man does not.
so as far as i'm concerned, anyone who is out there preaching to boys that life doesn't begin at conception is truly a fucking idiot and is doing those young men a profound disservice.
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yeah they like to sell books too.
and I like how it gets pro choice people all mad.
dead babies don't bother me either. unless they're my babies. and I don't kill my babies. I've had my fun in life, but I've always kept in mind that if I create a life, I am responsible for it. that's how I was raised.
I have 2 boys. and I will ALWAYS tell them that life begins at conception. why? BECAUSE FOR THEM, IT DOES.
if they get a girl pregnant, meaning if they conceive a child with a girl, they have ZERO choice in the matter. Only the girl does. as far as my boy is concerned, he's a father now as soon as they conceive.
unless she wants to kill it. then he's not.
but as soon as he dumps his seed into her, HE is a father unless SHE chooses otherwise. the way the US law is written, women have options. the man does not.
so as far as i'm concerned, any man who is out there preaching to boys that life doesn't begin at conception is truly a fucking idiot and is doing those young men a profound disservice.
I guess I'm an idiot because if my son is 18 and in college and knocks some chick up, I'm telling him to try to abort it... He's too young and won't be able to take care of the child the way it needs to be taken care of.
Fuck that.
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well I find this idea way better then abortion.
I'm glad to hear this from a Christian person!
I still remember those heated debates with a Christian coworker when eugenic principles were discussed, he went nuts..
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I guess I'm an idiot because if my son is 18 and in college and knocks some chick up, I'm telling him to try to abort it... He's too young and won't be able to take care of the child the way it needs to be taken care of.
Fuck that.
first off. any liberal woman in America would agree that you're a chauvinistic asshole because your son HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO FUCKING SAY IN THE MATTER!!!!!!!! its not his body. its hers.
the choice is not his to make. the fact that you think that it is shows how little you know about abortion in the US.
secondly, you should teach your son this very important lesson just in case he thinks its OK to have unprotected sex with a girl. AS FAR AS YOUR SON IS CONCERNED, LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION. as far as the girl he knocked up is concerned, life begins when SHE says it does.
what you're telling your son will not help him in any way if he gets a girl pregnant. you do understand that right?
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I'm glad to hear this from a Christian person!
I still remember those heated debates with a Christian coworker when eugenic principles were discussed, he went nuts..
believe it or not I see your argument clearly, it is a matter of perception and yes of course being a Christian does alter the argument too, can not deny that. That idea you suggested is pretty cool though I mean if you are not fit to parenting then you should not have a kid.
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first off. any liberal woman in America would agree that you're a chauvinistic asshole because your son HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO FUCKING SAY IN THE MATTER!!!!!!!! its not his body. its hers.
the choice is not his to make. the fact that you think that it is shows how little you know about abortion in the US.
secondly, you should teach your son this very important lesson just in case he thinks its OK to have unprotected sex with a girl. AS FAR AS YOUR SON IS CONCERNED, LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION. as far as the girl he knocked up is concerned, life begins when SHE says it does.
what you're telling your son will not help him in any way if he gets a girl pregnant. you do understand that right?
THAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
WOMEN GET ALL THE SAY!!
Why is it he has to be on hook for 1/2 the responsibility and has ZERO Say.
Are you fucking nuts?
You think it's right that he would have to pay for it, but if SHE doesn't want it, he can't stop her? Even if HE DOES?!
BULLSHIT.
ALSO... Yes... I do teach him all about having protected sex, but you can't watch them all the times and TONS of kids who should know better have unprotected sex all of the time because they are young and foolish.
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THAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
WOMEN GET ALL THE SAY!!
Why is it he has to be on hook for 1/2 the responsibility and has ZERO Say.
Are you fucking nuts?
You think it's right that he would have to pay for it, but if SHE doesn't want it, he can't stop her? Even if HE DOES?!
BULLSHIT.
ALSO... Yes... I do teach him all about having protected sex, but you can't watch them all the times and TONS of kids who should know better have unprotected sex all of the time because they are young and foolish.
right. I mean it's a completely fallacious line of reasoning for why the man has no say.
think about it. if you tell a woman that she should get an abortion. you're an asshole. plain and simple. why? what's wrong with abortion? and then liberals respond with something like, "it's her body, you have no right to say that!!!"
And i guess i can see that. but why are they so adamant in the fact that the man can't even suggest it without being a complete asshole?
if a woman had severe gall bladder pain and I told her to get her gall bladder taken out am I an asshole? technically it is her body but I wouldn't get the same reaction from a woman who I just told to get her gall bladder taken out as I would from the one I just told to get an abortion.
my take on it is simple. they get so mad and it is so devastating for women to get abortions because deep down they know what they're really doing. These women, no matter what the liberal media tries to tell you, know that they are ending a baby's life. and THAT"S why we are not allowed to even think about suggesting it.
we both have boys. and we have some tough conversations that we have to have. I wish you the best dude. its not easy for any of us.
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right. I mean it's a completely fallacious line of reasoning for why the man has no say.
think about it. if you tell a woman that she should get an abortion. you're an asshole. plain and simple. why? what's wrong with abortion? and then liberals respond with something like, "it's her body, you have no right to say that!!!"
And i guess i can see that. but why are they so adamant in the fact that the man can't even suggest it without being a complete asshole?
if a woman had severe gall bladder pain and I told her to get her gall bladder taken out am I an asshole? technically it is her body but I wouldn't get the same reaction from a woman who I just told to get her gall bladder taken out as I would from the one I just told to get an abortion.
my take on it is simple. they get so mad and it is so devastating for women to get abortions because deep down they know what they're really doing. These women, no matter what the liberal media tries to tell you, know that they are ending a baby's life. and THAT"S why we are not allowed to even think about suggesting it.
we both have boys. and we have some tough conversations that we have to have. I wish you the best dude. its not easy for any of us.
I can not disagree... Fucking Feminists.
All we can do is raise them the best we can and hope they turn out well and are decent people.
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Lots of people valuing human life in this thread. ::)
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Yeah, but how do those bright ambitious medical school students end up in a career of roto-rooting downtrodden women's vaginas everyday instead of a lucrative and rewarding area of medicine?
I would have no problems at all doing it.
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right. I mean it's a completely fallacious line of reasoning for why the man has no say.
think about it. if you tell a woman that she should get an abortion. you're an asshole. plain and simple. why? what's wrong with abortion? and then liberals respond with something like, "it's her body, you have no right to say that!!!"
And i guess i can see that. but why are they so adamant in the fact that the man can't even suggest it without being a complete asshole?
if a woman had severe gall bladder pain and I told her to get her gall bladder taken out am I an asshole? technically it is her body but I wouldn't get the same reaction from a woman who I just told to get her gall bladder taken out as I would from the one I just told to get an abortion.
my take on it is simple. they get so mad and it is so devastating for women to get abortions because deep down they know what they're really doing. These women, no matter what the liberal media tries to tell you, know that they are ending a baby's life. and THAT"S why we are not allowed to even think about suggesting it.
we both have boys. and we have some tough conversations that we have to have. I wish you the best dude. its not easy for any of us.
I think each party should have an opt out wher they do not have to have anything to do with a child if man or woman does not want it before birth.
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I am pro choice, but I can't help but cringe at those pictures. How many stories have we heard of people coming from nothing and making a great lives for themselves?
Some of those fetuses would have done great things.
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(http://oi39.tinypic.com/11tn0ox.jpg)
still agaisnt abortion?
:D
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(http://oi39.tinypic.com/11tn0ox.jpg)
still agaisnt abortion?
:D
My fault, I am pro choice. Those pics would make any person cringe.
Nothing past two months should be allowed. If caught, hefty jail time. Past a certain point, mothers become murderers.
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People who work in the abortion industry are the real hero's. Fuck cops and firemen!
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How do they live with themselves? Or are they completely evil?
youre a retard
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well I find this idea way better then abortion.
Conservatives love intrusion into people`s lives and they also love for the government to be in complete control, so I am not surprised that you would want them to scan your brain to see if one is fit for children.
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It's funny how people are up in arms about abortion (on both sides), but no one cares about our real, important civil rights, like the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments.
Abortion is and was decided on as an important civil rights issue, right to a woman`s privacy. Justice Harry Blackmun, writing for the majority, argued that a woman's decision to end her pregnancy is protected by a broad right of privacy, which though not explicitly laid out in the Constitution, previously had been found by the court to exist within the First, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth and 14th Amendments, as well as the penumbras, or shadows, of the Bill of Rights. So yes, this is a really important civil rights issue.
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END THREAD.
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believe it or not I see your argument clearly, it is a matter of perception and yes of course being a Christian does alter the argument too, can not deny that. That idea you suggested is pretty cool though I mean if you are not fit to parenting then you should not have a kid.
Yes, a totalitarian state that chooses who is fit to have children. Such a great idea, moron. ::)
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Whats funny is a lot of these eugenics advocates would be among the first to be sterilized.
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Whats funny is a lot of these eugenics advocates would be among the first to be sterilized.
I don't even want kids, so keep on trolling :D
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Whats funny is a lot of these eugenics advocates would be among the first to be sterilized.
ROFLMAO yes.
And how come these "Pro-Life" (really Pro-Birth, Anti-Life once you are born) never volunteering to have any black fetuses transplanted into their uteruses.
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I don't even want kids, so keep on trolling :D
I could not care less about what you do or don't want.
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Whats funny is a lot of these eugenics advocates would be among the first to be sterilized.
steroid users are self sterilized, all good
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ROFLMAO yes.
And how come these "Pro-Life" (really Pro-Birth, Anti-Life once you are born) never volunteering to have any black fetuses transplanted into their uteruses.
...or sign up to adopt these children.
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I could not care less about what you do or don't want.
The feelings are mutual, Wolfcocks (no homo)
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...or support welfare programs for single mothers.
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...or support welfare programs for single mothers.
They aren`t pro-life at all, just pro-birth.
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I think each party should have an opt out wher they do not have to have anything to do with a child if man or woman does not want it before birth.
"before birth". Facinating. Can you explain further? How do you kill the lets say an 8 mo. old fetus. They can breathe and cry at this age. Do you choke them? Pull their heads off like a chicken? Eletrocute with a car battery? How do you do this?
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"before birth". Facinating. Can you explain further? How do you kill the lets say an 8 mo. old fetus. They can breathe and cry at this age. Do you choke them? Pull their heads off like a chicken? Eletrocute with a car battery? How do you do this?
Kill? I was talking of a written waiver that absolves one party (man or woman) of any obligation to be associated with the child in any way once its born. This should be an option for anyone to have.
Interesting that you would want to automatically start with killing.
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Disarm you with a smile
And cut you like you want me to
Cut that little child
Inside of me and such a part of you
Ooh, the years burn
I used to be a little boy
So old in my shoes
And what i choose is my choice
What's a boy supposed to do?
The killer in me is the killer in you
My love
I send this smile over to you
Disarm you with a smile
And leave you like they left me here
To wither in denial
The bitterness of one who's left alone
Ooh, the years burn
Ooh, the years burn, burn, burn
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True….glad you cleared that up.
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Kill? I was talking of a written waiver that absolves one party (man or woman) of any obligation to be associated with the child in any way once its born. This should be an option for anyone to have.
Interesting that you would want to automatically start with killing.
On the topic of "killing" when a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer always gets that second hit for a double homicide, ie. Scott Petterson. All the sudden, that "fetus" becomes a person in that case? Why? Because the mom didn't elect in that instance? Abortion advocates dont have an answer for that.
This is how we control the population and stamp out most abortions: Mandatory Vasectomy
at age say 14 or 15 all boys must undergo the quick and non-intrusive laser vasectomy. It is reversible, so I'm saying temporary sterilization.
When he becomes a young man and has a marriage certificate, provable living quarters, income, etc. the state then, free of charge reverses the vasectomy through surgery.
Yes this would cost a lot of money, however, what it would save in declining the prison population, diminishing welfare fraud, deflating our burgeoning population of under-achievers, etc etc.. Think about it. Very big government, but so is coddling unfortunate unwanted kids their entire lives. Provided you believe abortion to be quite wrong like me, you may find mind my idea of state aided sterilization more satisfactory.
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On the topic of "killing" when a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer always gets that second hit for a double homicide, ie. Scott Petterson. All the sudden, that "fetus" becomes a person in that case? Why? Because the mom didn't elect in that instance? Abortion advocates dont have an answer for that.
This is how we control the population and stamp out most abortions: Mandatory Vasectomy
at age say 14 or 15 all boys must undergo the quick and non-intrusive laser vasectomy. It is reversible, so I'm saying temporary sterilization.
When he becomes a young man and has a marriage certificate, provable living quarters, income, etc. the state then, free of charge reverses the vasectomy through surgery.
Yes this would cost a lot of money, however, what it would save in declining the prison population, diminishing welfare fraud, deflating our burgeoning population of under-achievers, etc etc.. Think about it. Very big government, but so is coddling unfortunate unwanted kids their entire lives. Provided you believe abortion to be quite wrong like me, you may find mind my idea of state aided sterilization more satisfactory.
Interesting thought..
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thanks DroppinPlates. My idea has been scoffed at and neither political party would be able to side with it. But I've thought about population control for a long time. Whats that new Matt Damon movie based in the year 2154 or something? Totally plausible scenario
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thanks DroppinPlates. My idea has been scoffed at and neither political party would be able to side with it. But I've thought about population control for a long time. Whats that new Matt Damon movie based in the year 2154 or something? Totally plausible scenario
Most politicians don't have the balls to discuss the rising problem of over(!)-population, and the reason is obvious: most voters prefer their personal freedom of choice over world matters.
Over-population is the root of most problems in this world; more people means more/bigger problems, that's a law of nature.
I don't know about that movie, but it might function as a message.
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On the topic of "killing" when a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer always gets that second hit for a double homicide, ie. Scott Petterson. All the sudden, that "fetus" becomes a person in that case? Why? Because the mom didn't elect in that instance? Abortion advocates dont have an answer for that.
This is how we control the population and stamp out most abortions: Mandatory Vasectomy
at age say 14 or 15 all boys must undergo the quick and non-intrusive laser vasectomy. It is reversible, so I'm saying temporary sterilization.
When he becomes a young man and has a marriage certificate, provable living quarters, income, etc. the state then, free of charge reverses the vasectomy through surgery.
Yes this would cost a lot of money, however, what it would save in declining the prison population, diminishing welfare fraud, deflating our burgeoning population of under-achievers, etc etc.. Think about it. Very big government, but so is coddling unfortunate unwanted kids their entire lives. Provided you believe abortion to be quite wrong like me, you may find mind my idea of state aided sterilization more satisfactory.
Horrible idea. That is totalitarianism at its finest. Giving the government that kind of control is just insane. I have zero problems with abortion and do not find it wrong in any way.
Furthermore, as to the Scott Peterson and the double homicide, counting the fetus, is totally wrong. The fetus should not be counted. Why would you think I would not have an answer for something as simple as that?
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Easier way is to provide incentives for people not to have children, such as reduced to zero tax rate, housing credits, no property tax. Things like that.
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Horrible idea. That is totalitarianism at its finest. Giving the government that kind of control is just insane. I have zero problems with abortion and do not find it wrong in any way.
Furthermore, as to the Scott Peterson and the double homicide, counting the fetus, is totally wrong. The fetus should not be counted. Why would you think I would not have an answer for something as simple as that?
Pretty sure that Hitler forced Sterilization on those he deemed unworthy.
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Pretty sure that Hitler forced Sterilization on those he deemed unworthy.
lol,they made some ppl show up at soem office and unknown to the victims, they xrayed their balls under the desk.
no joke
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lol,they made some ppl show up at soem office and unknown to the victims, they xrayed their balls under the desk.
no joke
Yep, I read about that too.
One of the first acts by Adolf Hitler after achieving total control over the German state was to pass the Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring (Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses) in July 1933. The law was signed in by Hitler himself, and over 200 eugenic courts were created specifically as a result of the law. Under the German law, all doctors in the Reich were required to report patients of theirs who were intellectually disabled, mentally ill (including schizophrenia and manic depression), epileptic, blind, deaf, or physically deformed, and a steep monetary penalty was imposed for any patients who were not properly reported. Individuals suffering from alcoholism or Huntington's Disease could also be sterilized. The individual's case was then presented in front of a court of Nazi officials and public health officers who would review their medical records, take testimony from friends and colleagues, and eventually decide whether or not to order a sterilization operation performed on the individual, using force if necessary. Though not explicitly covered by the law, 400 mixed-race "Rhineland Bastards" were also sterilized beginning in 1937.[11]
By the end of World War II, over 400,000 individuals were sterilised under the German law and its revisions, most within its first four years of being enacted. When the issue of compulsory sterilisation was brought up at the Nuremberg trials after the war, many Nazis defended their actions on the matter by indicating that it was the United States itself from whom they had taken inspiration. The Nazis had many other eugenics-inspired racial policies, including their "euthanasia" programme in which around 70,000 people institutionalised or suffering from birth defects were killed.[12]
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Forced sterilization has merit but the water always gets murky the deeper you dive on this subject.....pedos should be sterilized but should a 19 yo boy banging a 16 yo girl (under age of consent)?
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Forced sterilization has merit but the water always gets murky the deeper you dive on this subject.....pedos should be sterilized but should a 19 yo boy banging a 16 yo girl (under age of consent)?
Nobody should be sterilized by the government. Hope this helps.
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Nobody should be sterilized by the government. Hope this helps.
This.
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How do they live with themselves? Or are they completely evil?
I expect they sleep just fine knowing they are helping women out of a bad situation
If you're against abortion then don't get one
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youre a retard
x2. what a pussy
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I posted this in another thread. I'll post it here too.
You think repealing the rights for women to have abortions is good news? If so, please explain why, in the case of a woman being impregnated through aggravate rape, it would be preferable for all involved if the fetus were not aborted. Please elaborate on your viewpoint as it pertains to how disallowing abortions will positively impact the following people (you can use 1 paragraph for each of the 4 sections, if you like):
1. the man who raped the woman
2. the woman who was raped
3. the woman's spouse (i.e. the man she is married to, who is now married to a woman that another man raped while he was married to her)
4. the woman's family (i.e. her other children with her husband), who will be involved in the fetus's life if it is brought to term
Thanks in advance. Looking forward to a cogent, well-crafted response.
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Conservatives love intrusion into people`s lives and they also love for the government to be in complete control, so I am not surprised that you would want them to scan your brain to see if one is fit for children.
right liberals don't want the government to be in control of anything. seriously???? I mean......seriously??
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I posted this in another thread. I'll post it here too.
You think repealing the rights for women to have abortions is good news? If so, please explain why, in the case of a woman being impregnated through aggravate rape, it would be preferable for all involved if the fetus were not aborted. Please elaborate on your viewpoint as it pertains to how disallowing abortions will positively impact the following people (you can use 1 paragraph for each of the 4 sections, if you like):
1. the man who raped the woman
2. the woman who was raped
3. the woman's spouse (i.e. the man she is married to, who is now married to a woman that another man raped while he was married to her)
4. the woman's family (i.e. her other children with her husband), who will be involved in the fetus's life if it is brought to term
Thanks in advance. Looking forward to a cogent, well-crafted response.
typical. you bring up the scenario that occurs in less then one half of one percent of all abortions in this country. way to get to the crux of the issue. ::)
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right liberals don't want the government to be in control of anything. seriously???? I mean......seriously??
Why do you want the government to be in charge of anything at all?
Whether you like it or not... You should alwys err on the side of freedom to do what you like to do just as long as no one is hurting your family, why do you care.
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right liberals don't want the government to be in control of anything. seriously???? I mean......seriously??
I am a liberal and I don`t want the government to control anything or do anything that violates the Constitution.
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typical. you bring up the scenario that occurs in less then one half of one percent of all abortions in this country. way to get to the crux of the issue. ::)
Care not to address, then? Not sympatico with your agenda?
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Easier way is to provide incentives for people not to have children, such as reduced to zero tax rate, housing credits, no property tax. Things like that.
As if that will stop them ::)
I am a liberal and I don`t want the government to control anything or do anything that violates the Constitution.
Time to adjust that old fashioned constitution. Most people make dumb decisions, so sometimes society needs intervention.
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It is totalitarian Adonis, but something has to be done or eventually society will do itself in with a maxed out number of people. Wait around for more natural disasters, drought, disease, and lack of food? A tax reward would only hinder people, like you, that should be populating the earth from having more kids..
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When you realize there are people who kill babies FOR A LIVING, you understand why maybe there needs to be a place called HELL.
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Equal rights only exist until your right impedes on another, in the case of abortion the mothers right to choose an abortion breeches the foetus right to life.
Try again.
hahaha did obama tell you that? ::)
Pagan fruit cake.
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I am a liberal and I don`t want the government to control anything or do anything that violates the Constitution.
Youre an outspoken atheist why should anyone listen to youre immoral ass?
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Youre an outspoken atheist why should anyone listen to youre immoral ass?
The god-concept is a bad joke.
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The god-concept is a bad joke.
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When you realize there are people who kill babies FOR A LIVING, you understand why maybe there needs to be a place called HELL.
LOL
fuck that is some funny shit
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You've been brainwashed.
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50 million abortions have been induced (only 3% under safe conditions) since 2008 in Africa. Lets add those kids back into todays population and try to feed, clothe, house and medicate them. Going back another 10 years and its now over 100 million additional mouths to feed. It can't be done. Famine, territorial genocide, murder, Moslem V Christian war, disease would all be worse, if possible, than it is today.
So its population control that will save the planet? I will leave that to you younger get biggers to solve. I'm 73. The Pope is pleading to Italians to procreate. Moslem elders preach procreation will take over the world with Islam. Fundamentalist Christians join in to stop abortion and have babies montra. The Chinese have given up on one child per family. Me, I HATE abortion. Disgusts me. Yet I can count. Thus I leave the dilemma to you all.
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You've been brainwashed.
By who? Have you ever read the bible? Or Do you just listen to true adonis debunked propaganda?
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50 million abortions have been induced (only 3% under safe conditions) since 2008 in Africa. Lets add those kids back into todays population and try to feed, clothe, house and medicate them. Going back another 10 years and its now over 100 million additional mouths to feed. It can't be done. Famine, territorial genocide, murder, Moslem V Christian war, disease would all be worse, if possible, than it is today.
So its population control that will save the planet? I will leave that to you younger get biggers to solve. I'm 73. The Pope is pleading to Italians to procreate. Moslem elders preach procreation will take over the world with Islam. Fundamentalist Christians join in to stop abortion and have babies montra. The Chinese have given up on one child per family. Me, I HATE abortion. Disgusts me. Yet I can count. Thus I leave the dilemma to you all.
Solid post. Overpopulation is right up there with nuclear war and an asteroid impact. One of those will eventually end life on earth. The rich will already be living in space by then. Elysium is not far fetched.
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This.
What if the Gov't set it up to where you had to sterilize yourself to collect welfare? I never understood why there are so many out there that are on welfare but have 4-6 kids...most giving birth to additional kids WHILE on welfare.
If you can't provide for yourself or your kids then you should be drug tested and mandatory birth control or lose benefits for life is my opinion.
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What if the Gov't set it up to where you had to sterilize yourself to collect welfare? I never understood why there are so many out there that are on welfare but have 4-6 kids...most giving birth to additional kids WHILE on welfare.
If you can't provide for yourself or your kids then you should be drug tested and mandatory birth control or lose benefits for life is my opinion.
If it's an "option", then I can probably go along with it... I've often thought the fix wasn't even sterilization of any sort though.
The welfare fix is easy.
You put a cap on the amount you get from WIC... We as a society will accept up to 2 children... You get that money for 2 kids.
If you pop out a 3rd, then you get the same money as 2.
If I have 2 kids, and I end up with a 3rd, no one just magically gives me more money... So why should anyone else.
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By who? Have you ever read the bible? Or Do you just listen to true adonis debunked propaganda?
I've once studied the bible with a few die hard Evangelions, just out of interest, so yes.
There's a difference between listening to and agreeing with someone, a tough distinction for many religious folks, I know...
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I've once studied the bible with a few die hard Evangelions, just out of interest, so yes.
There's a difference between listening to and agreeing with someone, a tough distinction for many religious folks, I know...
I dont believe you. If you have read it, which is your favorite chapter and why?
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I dont believe you. If you have read it, which is your favorite chapter and why?
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Epic troll 8)
Prove me wrong fool. You are loosing the battles of ideas my freind.
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Epic troll 8)
Prove me wrong fool. You are loosing the battles of ideas my freind.
loosing? Adonis already won :-\
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As far as demographics go, abortion in the first world where birth rates are already so low isn't a good thing.
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loosing? Adonis already won :-\
When?
PS. You look like shit!
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I dont believe you. If you have read it, which is your favorite chapter and why?
I don't care if you believe me or not. I haven't read the whole fairy tale, but it has strong parts like:
"For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee." Proverbs 23:7
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Another way is to vault everyone in the world up to a middle class existence where more people are worried about their children's future college costs, car payments, credit card payments, and landscaping their yard than they are about spreading Islamic fanaticism, grubbing in the dirt for food, murdering someone over a dollar, or having 15 children in an attempt to outpace infant mortality.
Alas, this shall not come to pass.
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I have to agree, people who commit these acts, and people who try to justify them, must have very fucked up souls. God knows what ELSE is wrong with their hearts and minds.
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How do they live with themselves? Or are they completely evil?
Abortion is the number one factor in reducing the crime rate over the last few decades. Those abortionists need a pat on the back.
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Abortion is the number one factor in reducing the crime rate over the last few decades. Those abortionists need a pat on the back.
They are the REAL heroes. Fuck cops, firemen and military.
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Abortion is the number one factor in reducing the crime rate over the last few decades. Those abortionists need a pat on the back.
you are so positive less life on Earth is better, I mean less people breathing is what the world needs right, so do your part and reduce the population by killing yourself, set the example, practice what you preach, DO IT.
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you are so positive less life on Earth is better, I mean less people breathing is what the world needs right, so do your part and reduce the population by killing yourself, set the example, practice what you preach, DO IT.
I read this kind of reactions quite often, but they don't contribute to a meaningful discussion. We're talking about prevention here.
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Abortion is the number one factor in reducing the crime rate over the last few decades. Those abortionists need a pat on the back.
you do understand that those "bible thumping" conservatives back in the early 1970's were accusing the liberal pro abortion people of using abortion as a means for social engineering right? and they were called crazy right? and everyone laughed at them and made up funny names for them like they do to the "tea baggers" right?
you do understand that a liberal pro choice person in the 1970's would completely disagree with you and think you're a fucking asshole right?
just saying.
like I've said before. I'm not that concerned with abortion. However, i'm well aware of the fact that the whole pro choice movement is based upon lies. I just hope you're not so stupid that you forget that.