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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: tinbeater36 on May 13, 2009, 11:54:21 AM
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I want to get back to basics and do a simple test only cycle. Ive had nothing in my system for close to 2 years and Ive had my blood work checked. Everything is great so should do me good. Im not looking to put on a ton of size with this cycle but I want to keep as much as possible of what I do gain.
weeks 1-16 500mg of test E (divided in to two injections)
weeks 1-16 600iu of hcg (once again divided in to two injections)
pct
start one week after last injection day (this is what ive come with for test Enth - would it be different if i went with sust?)
weeks 1-2 40mg Nolvadex ed
weeks 3-4 20mg Nolvadex ed
anything im missing? or anything you guys would change? one more question - ive never used hcg... u guys use slin needles for injecting or go deep in the muscle Ive heard both ways? thanks in adavance
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well first off are you sure which ester of test you want they will all have a different effect some will aromatase more and some will kick in and leave your system faster...... i would say you will be better off with a good brand of sust at 500-750 mg's a week for your HCG 500iu's twice a week seems to be the go for amount if you are prone to gyno effects get some AI's and nolvadex on hand depending on which AI you choose the dose of and frequency of takeing them will be different....... yes you use a slin pin for the HCG even though the bottle says intramuscular you just pin your ab fat like slin and GH...... i hope this helps
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oh one more thing get some clomid for your PCT
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shrek you can pin hcg slin and gh all intarmuscular. it actually is a little bit better to do it that way.
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shrek you can pin hcg slin and gh all intarmuscular. it actually is a little bit better to do it that way.
i know but you dont have to but the HCG bottle says for intramuscular use
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i know but you dont have to but the HCG bottle says for intramuscular use
eh, yeah, works about the same either way, intramuscle is a bit faster and peaks a bit higher and leaves a bit sooner. but effects are basically the same. when i have shot hcg, i did it intramuscular on the inner thigh real close to my nutsack.
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well first off are you sure which ester of test you want they will all have a different effect some will aromatase more and some will kick in and leave your system faster...... i would say you will be better off with a good brand of sust at 500-750 mg's a week for your HCG 500iu's twice a week seems to be the go for amount if you are prone to gyno effects get some AI's and nolvadex on hand depending on which AI you choose the dose of and frequency of takeing them will be different....... yes you use a slin pin for the HCG even though the bottle says intramuscular you just pin your ab fat like slin and GH...... i hope this helps
i agree shrek i like sust slightly better to - but for some reason i have a hard time getting it - they end up trying to get me omnadren which ive tried and didnt care for - enanthate is much easier to come by for some reason - it seems like everyone has a different opinion on how much hcg to use - i was going on the low end - why put more into your body than you need is my theory - thanks for the help
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the HCG dose i was told that by a mod and i have read that its a good dose not too much and not too lil..... if you cant get sust then use the test e and take some AI's with it to keep you dry i like test e mixed with my sust cause it makes for a less sore injection until my muscles get useed to the sust
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I want to get back to basics and do a simple test only cycle. Ive had nothing in my system for close to 2 years and Ive had my blood work checked. Everything is great so should do me good. Im not looking to put on a ton of size with this cycle but I want to keep as much as possible of what I do gain.
weeks 1-16 500mg of test E (divided in to two injections)
weeks 1-16 600iu of hcg (once again divided in to two injections)
pct
start one week after last injection day (this is what ive come with for test Enth - would it be different if i went with sust?)
weeks 1-2 40mg Nolvadex ed
weeks 3-4 20mg Nolvadex ed
anything im missing? or anything you guys would change? one more question - ive never used hcg... u guys use slin needles for injecting or go deep in the muscle Ive heard both ways? thanks in adavance
looks great! i would add in clomid with the Nolva at the end...
and start off with 4 weeks of test prop 100mg EOD,,
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1) Why Test E ??!?!
2) Why in the hell would you spit up Test E (the longest test ester) into 2 injections ?!!?
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1) Why Test E ??!?!
2) Why in the hell would you spit up Test E (the longest test ester) into 2 injections ?!!?
dude i dont look for your posts to nit pick like you said, but i do have a few things that get on my nerves soemtimes and it would not be ou, but what your saying here... like whats wron with test e? perfectly fine steroid...and saying theres no reaso to split up test e... even though it may be the longest test ester, doesnt mena it will provide stable blood levels if injected once a week... enan would optimally be shot e3d to keep levels perfectly stable..
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dude i dont look for your posts to nit pick like you said, but i do have a few things that get on my nerves soemtimes and it would not be ou, but what your saying here... like whats wron with test e? perfectly fine steroid...and saying theres no reaso to split up test e... even though it may be the longest test ester, doesnt mena it will provide stable blood levels if injected once a week... enan would optimally be shot e3d to keep levels perfectly stable..
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You are wrong in that respect.. Test is legitimately used by doctors once every 3 weeks- once a month for HRT...
thus there is absolutely NO point or proof that splitting it into e3d shots will have any affect on it's absorption in your receptors... if thre is, please show me proof..
I was asking why Test E out of curiousity..I see a lot of guys doing it as their first cycle and it was just a question of curiousity... all our bodies respond to different compounds differently, I can't stand Test E or Deca, you maybe love it..for all I know it could get you shredded with just that and no cardio. Bottom line , everyone is different adn everyone has different goals. :)
And to be honest you seem a little edgy lately bro, you switched up your products? ;)
neways, we should all be supportive and into positive critiques here, I'm not on here to flame anyone or diss their choice of gear, to each their own :) I know what works for me, it took me many years and cycles to find and I'm content.
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Can one ester really work better for someone than another? Yes, I understand there are differences in ester duration, some may make you hold water more than others and onset may be quicker. But isn't test just test?
CaptainEQ, do you think that maybe you've used fake or UG Test E in the past without knowing it? Do you like Cyp?
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i like sust and test e (the only types of test i have used that i liked) and i split my dose up, i take liittle more gear than some here but i shoot every other day, plus i like pinning and having that constant test running thru my body lol
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WOW !!!
RESPECTFUL INTERACTIONS BETWEEN MEMBERS WHO DISAGREE ?!?!?!
what the fuck ;D
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You are wrong in that respect.. Test is legitimately used by doctors once every 3 weeks- once a month for HRT...
thus there is absolutely NO point or proof that splitting it into e3d shots will have any affect on it's absorption in your receptors... if thre is, please show me proof..
im going to have to look this one up for you, i found this proof like 5 months ago ands had talked about this before, but even the longest heaviest esters tend to peak in a few days then drop then have a small release for the rest of its duration.
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im going to have to look this one up for you, i found this proof like 5 months ago ands had talked about this before, but even the longest heaviest esters tend to peak in a few days then drop then have a small release for the rest of its duration.
agreed i read a similar article also if you use the half life calculator it will give you an estaimate blood level depending on which seroid your use..... by the way i lost that site does anyone have the link to it
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I want to get back to basics and do a simple test only cycle. Ive had nothing in my system for close to 2 years and Ive had my blood work checked. Everything is great so should do me good. Im not looking to put on a ton of size with this cycle but I want to keep as much as possible of what I do gain.
weeks 1-16 500mg of test E (divided in to two injections)
weeks 1-16 600iu of hcg (once again divided in to two injections)
pct
start one week after last injection day (this is what ive come with for test Enth - would it be different if i went with sust?)
weeks 1-2 40mg Nolvadex ed
weeks 3-4 20mg Nolvadex ed
anything im missing? or anything you guys would change? one more question - ive never used hcg... u guys use slin needles for injecting or go deep in the muscle Ive heard both ways? thanks in adavance
test only may cause joint problems. test will actually reduce the rate of collagen synthesis, and connective tissue is made of collagen
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eh, yeah, works about the same either way, intramuscle is a bit faster and peaks a bit higher and leaves a bit sooner. but effects are basically the same. when i have shot hcg, i did it intramuscular on the inner thigh real close to my nutsack.
why are you pinning anything at the inner thigh area? you are asking for trouble.
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ya i have never heard that either
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Iwould go for sust only. Add proviron during the cycle if you are prone to gyno. PCT Nolva/Clomid for 3 weeks, no need for more.
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1) Why Test E ??!?!
2) Why in the hell would you spit up Test E (the longest test ester) into 2 injections ?!!?
Test E is great, as for breaking up injections maybe he doesnt rotate site and wants to keep 1ml at a time so he don't get an abcess?
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Can one ester really work better for someone than another? Yes, I understand there are differences in ester duration, some may make you hold water more than others and onset may be quicker. But isn't test just test?
CaptainEQ, do you think that maybe you've used fake or UG Test E in the past without knowing it? Do you like Cyp?
Impossible, I've always gotten and still can get legitimate Test E from the pharmacy, in the past I've used ICN Galenika's sent to me from a pharmacy in Yugoslavia, other then that I have used the Egyptian Testoviron and the Canadian Delatestryl, all of which are legit pharma grade Test E's.
My body just doesn't like longer ester's, I blow up like a balloon on them. Test is NOT Test.
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looks great! i would add in clomid with the Nolva at the end...
and start off with 4 weeks of test prop 100mg EOD,,
got some leftover clomid still here - how much would u add? keep the nolva the same?
i agree the prop might help jumpstart things - thought about dbol but would rather avoid the orals for the most part
thanks
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agreed i read a similar article also if you use the half life calculator it will give you an estaimate blood level depending on which seroid your use..... by the way i lost that site does anyone have the link to it
dont know if this is the one you had but this one will work
http://www.steroidsource.net/calculator.htm