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Title: 5 days of dorian
Post by: shiftedShapes on December 07, 2008, 11:32:44 PM
pic not posted..

when doing a promotional event it really is pretty stupid not to deliver as promised.  Looks very unprofessional
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 07, 2008, 11:34:15 PM
It's not called the unseen picture for nothing  ::)

 :P
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: French on December 08, 2008, 10:37:35 AM
 :o

Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 10:40:09 AM
:o



Holy shit !!  :o  :o  :o

Ronnie who? lmfao

countdown to the Ronnie's meltdowns
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: local hero on December 08, 2008, 10:48:53 AM
one of the best pics ive seen of him........ his waist looks tiny, quads unreal too!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: m8 on December 08, 2008, 10:52:10 AM
That's an amazing shot. Ronnie's front lat spread doesn't even come close.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 08, 2008, 10:52:29 AM
Holy shit indeed.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 11:29:25 AM
Insane!!
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr. Magoo on December 08, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
good pic

but one question remains: why the hell wait so many years before releasing it?

the last hoorah of Kevin Norton?
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 11:39:19 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=291895;image)

tell me this isn't the much hyped up "unseen" pic of Dorian. Although impressive, I was expecting something with more impact. I thought it was suppose to blow away his 93 black and white pics.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: conflicted on December 08, 2008, 11:59:44 AM
one of the best pics ive seen of him........ his waist looks tiny, quads unreal too!!!!!!!

Quads look unreal because they are. Unreal that is. As in not real. As in morphed. Dorian's upper quads don't have that immediate flare/sweep at the insertion points near his hips as this pic shows. My gut (pun intended) also tells me that the waistline has been slightly reduced up as well. Surprising that Kevin Horton would attach his name to this pic as his seems like a straight shooter.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 08, 2008, 12:18:41 PM
Quads look unreal because they are. Unreal that is. As in not real. As in morphed. Dorian's upper quads don't have that immediate flare/sweep at the insertion points near his hips as this pic shows. My gut (pun intended) also tells me that the waistline has been slightly reduced up as well. Surprising that Kevin Horton would attach his name to this pic as his seems like a straight shooter.

You might be right, I had my suspicions as well.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: delta9mda on December 08, 2008, 12:22:52 PM
i dont think KH would shop his own pics.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 12:27:51 PM
It would be nice to see a series of pics with other poses as well.  Based upon the sole pic provided, however, the form shown does out shine the 1993 pics, as Dorian has comparative size, but with much more refinement.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Arkadius on December 08, 2008, 12:34:18 PM
Wow!He looks insane there!
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 12:41:45 PM
Wow!He looks insane there!

Just imagine what his back looks like!
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: JasonH on December 08, 2008, 12:48:47 PM
Excellent picture - arguably one of the best of Dorian out there. Any of the Ronnie nuthuggers who chime in now with the 2003 shots need their heads examined - for physical perfection you can't beat that shot - there are no weak points on that physique WHATSOEVER.  8)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Method101 on December 08, 2008, 12:52:22 PM
Excellent picture - arguably one of the best of Dorian out there. Any of the Ronnie nuthuggers who chime in now with the 2003 shots need their heads examined - for physical perfection you can't beat that shot - there are no weak points on that physique WHATSOEVER.  8)
its photoshopped you dumb fuckwit.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Arkadius on December 08, 2008, 12:52:31 PM
Just imagine what his back looks like!
Yeah!I wish there were more new pics!
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: JasonH on December 08, 2008, 12:55:14 PM
its photoshopped you dumb fuckwit.

Doen't look photoshopped to me. And even if it was, it still destroys anything that your average Ronnie fan can throw up.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: sculpture on December 08, 2008, 12:57:16 PM
Of course its morphed

Not one single pic ever of dorian or video has ever shown his quads to have so much flair and size.

Then suddenly after all these years "new" pics appear.

His quads have never looked like that
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: JasonH on December 08, 2008, 12:58:30 PM
Of course its morphed

Not one single pic ever of dorian or video has ever shown his quads to have so much flair and size.

Then suddenly after all these years "new" pics appear.

His quads have never looked like that

Okay fine, it's morphed. But it still beats Ronnie hands down and we haven't even seen a back pic yet.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 01:00:27 PM
Doen't look photoshopped to me. And even if it was, it still destroys anything that your average Ronnie fan can throw up.

Ronnie's 02 BFTO screen caps are more impressive. I bet someone out there has professional shots of him. If so, those pics would blow away anything Dorian ever presented.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: sculpture on December 08, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
Okay fine, it's morphed. But it still beats Ronnie hands down and we haven't even seen a back pic yet.

its a great pose - his best infact.

but its a suspect pic
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:21:49 PM
tell me this isn't the much hyped up "unseen" pic of Dorian. Although impressive, I was expecting something with more impact. I thought it was suppose to blow away his 93 black and white pics.

tell me about it.

look how small his arms are! totally out of proportion and undersized... ::)

not to mention detail-less as always... :-\

no wonder everyone says how much better Ronnie was at his peak.. :-\
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 01:24:39 PM
tell me about it.

look how small his arms are! totally out of proportion and undersized... ::)

not to mention detail-less as always... :-\

no wonder everyone says how much better Ronnie was at his peak.. :-\

Everyone says that after looking at your PHOTOSHOPPED pics lol

Ronnie at his ' peak ' said Dorian would crush him ....next
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:26:01 PM
Of course its morphed

Not one single pic ever of dorian or video has ever shown his quads to have so much flair and size.

Then suddenly after all these years "new" pics appear.

His quads have never looked like that

good point:

compare quad flare

ND did you do this? ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
tell me about it.

look how small his arms are! totally out of proportion and undersized... ::)

not to mention detail-less as always... :-\

no wonder everyone says how much better Ronnie was at his peak.. :-\

Huckster with nothing positive to say, hard to believe. ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 01:28:14 PM
good point:

compare quad flare

ND did you do this? ::)

Are you not cognitive of the weight difference between the two pics?  One should anticipate him being fuller and having more pronounced quads in the heavier photo.  There is likely a 23 pound weight difference.  Not too mention that the "new" pic is from 1995, a few years subsequent to the 1993 contest photo.  I guess you're not familiar with a bodybuilder making improvements, being a Coleman fan.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 01:29:39 PM
good point:

compare quad flare

ND did you do this? ::)

Ask you boy Bizzy he PHOTOSHOPPED dozens of pics that you posted as and I quote ' overwhelming visual evidence '

and the quads could be real and I'll tell you why in certain areas the more Dorian dieted down the small certain parts became like delts , like arms , like quads all over
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:37:09 PM
Are you not cognitive of the weight difference between the two pics?  One should anticipate him being fuller and having more pronounced quads in the heavier photo.  There is likely a 23 pound weight difference.  Not too mention that the "new" pic is from 1995, a few years subsequent to the 1993 contest photo.  I guess you're not familiar with a bodybuilder making improvements, being a Coleman fan.

yeah, here is 95 for you ::)

you morphing losers are pathetic. :-\
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:38:09 PM
^

Mr 1duhful and Co are so fucking stupid they thnk the quads could be real LOL ::)


 ::)

you guys are a waste of time... ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 01:39:06 PM
yeah, here is 95 for you ::)

you morphing losers are pathetic. :-\

lmfao ' you ' morphing loser lol lets says it is ' morphed ' how are we responsible for it?  ;) and again look at the 93 pre-contest pics and the 93 Olympia contest night & day

oh and continue with your mega-meltdown
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 01:39:49 PM
holy fuck! That's Dorian at 280-285lbs fuckking amazing! Ronnie couldn't match that in a million years!

Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 01:41:05 PM
yeah, here is 95 for you ::)

you morphing losers are pathetic. :-\

And he's dieted down, proving my point.  And before you accuse anyone of morphing, put your fucking sharpening tool away, you tool.  ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 01:43:52 PM
^

Mr 1duhful and Co are so fucking stupid they thnk the quads could be real LOL ::)


 ::)

you guys are a waste of time... ::)


A waste of time? like your thread about morphing pics and like your loose skin thread? talk about backfire LMFAO keep melting down you idiot

Dorian control your mind
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mussolini on December 08, 2008, 01:47:35 PM
Dorian at his best crushes ronnie at rons best. This pic proves it even more.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:57:54 PM
Quote
lets says it is ' morphed ' how are we responsible for it?

well, considering the fact that you immediately plaster the morphed pic up against ronnie shots (where ronnie still wins anyway LOL ::)) you are certainly trying pretend that the shot isn't morphed and using it to your advantage LOL

just like your phorphed shots ND.

you post them in comparisons and try and play dumb

luckily we are all much smarter than you and can see right through it..
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 01:59:01 PM
Hulkster melting down left and right hahahaha

Dorian is KING. Ronnie was defeated by several peon BBs in the grand scheme of things haha
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
lol why would I melt down about a fucking morphed pic? ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 02:02:42 PM
Dorian @ 280lbs. Utter perfection. You could not sculpt a better physique. Ronnie is a mess of awkward parts in comparison.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=291945;image)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 02:03:17 PM
Hey Huckster, take a look at your glass, it's empty. lol

Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:04:58 PM
well, considering the fact that you immediately plaster the morphed pic up against ronnie shots (where ronnie still wins anyway LOL ::)) you are certainly trying pretend that the shot isn't morphed and using it to your advantage LOL

just like your phorphed shots ND.

you post them in comparisons and try and play dumb

luckily we are all much smarter than you and can see right through it..

You THINK the shot is morphed that's your interpretation and we all know you have a history of being wrong

and what ' phorphed shots(S) ' ( sic ) are you referring to?

and who is this ' we ' ? all the people who told you you're an idiot for posting that thread? lol

Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:05:53 PM
Dorian @ 280lbs. Utter perfection. You could not sculpt a better physique. Ronnie is a mess of awkward parts in comparison.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=291945;image)

Ronnie owns the front latspread LMFAO
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 02:07:14 PM
Ronnie has no lats. How the fuck can you win a front lat spread with no lats? lmfao.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
Ronnie has no lats. How the fuck can you win a front lat spread with no lats? lmfao.

still bitter about how your unmorphed hero gets crushed, aren't you?:

 ::)

the only shots where dorian even comes close is the morphed ones, and you guys post a lot of them... ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:15:05 PM
Dorian @ 280lbs. Utter morphed perfection. You could not sculpt a better physique. Ronnie is a mess of awkward parts in comparison.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=291945;image)

fixed
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:16:15 PM
Ronnie has no lats. How the fuck can you win a front lat spread with no lats? lmfao.
:-X
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 02:19:05 PM
still bitter about how your unmorphed hero gets crushed, aren't you?:



Dorian was never crushed moron...he faced the best competition in the history of the sport and won the majority of his titles with straight firsts. Ronnie on the other hand was defeated by mid tier BBs. Pathetic. You've been owned by so many people, it's becoming comical. As far as I know Ronnie is the only Mr. Olympia to be booed off the stage maybe since the 1980 olympia. You claim to not care about GetBig, yet you have 16,000+ posts all related to Ronnie. You are on here day and night pathetically defending your fantasy lover. Get a fucking life.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=291945;image)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: sculpture on December 08, 2008, 02:23:13 PM
Its morphed.

Move on

It doesnt prove anything

Dorian fills out the front lat spread better than ronnie or anyone but hes still bereft of any detail in the pose

The original poster should be ashamed of themselves.

The pose was no doubt great to begin with. Why ruin it?

Stop fuckin arguing over this trash
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:23:22 PM
Dorian was never crushed moron...he faced the best competition in the history of the sport and won the majority of his titles with straight firsts. Ronnie on the other hand was defeated by mid tier BBs. Pathetic. You've been owned by so many people, it's becoming comical. As far as I know Ronnie is the only Mr. Olympia to be booed off the stage maybe since the 1980 olympia. You claim to not care about GetBig, yet you have 16,000+ posts all related to Ronnie. You are on here day and night pathetically defending your fantasy lover. Get a fucking life.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=291945;image)


Kevin crushing Ronnie yet again on the ' morphed ' claim lmfao
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: conflicted on December 08, 2008, 02:27:28 PM
The below excerpt is taken from this interview from 5 Days Of Dorian:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_interview_1993_gym_shots.htm

[ Q ] Kevin Horton recently presented us at bodybuilding.com with a previously unseen picture of you taken by him in 1995. How would you describe 1995 from a competitive standpoint?

[ Dorian ] Yes I was sent this photo and it looks like I'm backstage at a contest; maybe I did a guest posing somewhere. '95 was a very good year. Obviously I had the bicep injury from the year before but the conditioning at the '95 Olympia was probably superior to '93.

----------

When is the last time you saw a bodybuilder backstage at a contest posing in his underwear as opposed to posing trunks? These details only serve to further lose credibility regarding the obviously morphed photo.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
The below excerpt is taken from this interview from 5 Days Of Dorian:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_interview_1993_gym_shots.htm

[ Q ] Kevin Horton recently presented us at bodybuilding.com with a previously unseen picture of you taken by him in 1995. How would you describe 1995 from a competitive standpoint?

[ Dorian ] Yes I was sent this photo and it looks like I'm backstage at a contest; maybe I did a guest posing somewhere. '95 was a very good year. Obviously I had the bicep injury from the year before but the conditioning at the '95 Olympia was probably superior to '93.

----------

When is the last time you saw a bodybuilder backstage at a contest posing in his underwear as opposed to posing trunks? These details only serve to further lose credibility regarding the obviously morphed photo.

 gimmick meltdown
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 02:31:02 PM
gimmick meltdown

haha yes indeed.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Emmortal on December 08, 2008, 02:31:17 PM
gimmick meltdown

Brings up some valid points though.  What's up with the sock rings as well?  Looks like he was tanning with socks on?  Odd.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Big_Tymer on December 08, 2008, 02:31:30 PM
Excellent picture - arguably one of the best of Dorian out there. Any of the Ronnie nuthuggers who chime in now with the 2003 shots need their heads examined - for physical perfection you can't beat that shot - there are no weak points on that physique WHATSOEVER.  8)

his arms are way too small for his torso
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 02:33:49 PM
The Coleman trolls show their utter desperation by proclaiming that the pic has been tampered with.  Truly pathetic.  For all of  Sulkster's proclamations of Ronnie being so far ahead of Yates, it shows his insecurity that he protests the new Yates pic so vehemently.  All he can do is yell "morphed" with futility, as a last ditch effort to save his hero.  But, alas, nothing can be done. :'(
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: sculpture on December 08, 2008, 02:39:33 PM
The Coleman trolls show their utter desperation by proclaiming that the pic has been tampered with.  Truly pathetic.  For all of  Sulkster's proclamations of Ronnie being so far ahead of Yates, it shows his insecurity that he protests the new Yates pic so vehemently.  All he can do is yell "morphed" with futility, as a last ditch effort to save his hero.  But, alas, nothing can be done. :'(

It has been

Are you blind?

Suddenly his waist is tiny and quads platz like,

Perhaps something is up
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:40:43 PM
It has been

Are you blind?

Suddenly his waist is tiny and quads platz like,

Perhaps something is up

he just said the pic is untouched the photographer of the pic for christ's sake ! and read his post he doesn't take sides
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:41:51 PM
he just said the pic is untouched the photographer of the pic for christ's sake ! and read his post he doesn't take sides

but this photographer has been blatantly wrong in the past (re bizzy's shots)

he is wrong this time too.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:43:08 PM
but this photographer has been blatantly wrong in the past (re bizzy's shots)

he is wrong this time too.

Hulkster I know you just can't stand being proven wrong yet again , but seriously let it go on both accounts . the game is over.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: sculpture on December 08, 2008, 02:43:57 PM
he just said the pic is untouched the photographer of the pic for christ's sake ! and read his post he doesn't take sides

For once in your life ignore what someone else says, or some quote and


OPEN YOUR EYES AND USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:44:51 PM
Hulkster I know you just can't stand being proven wrong yet again , but seriously let it go on both accounts . the game is over.

lol why let it go when I am not wrong in the first place?

you are the one who needs to admit that:

1) bizzy's screens were not adjusted

and

2) dorian never had tom platz's quads and Brian Buchanan's waist..

 ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:45:28 PM
For once in your life ignore what someone else says, or some quote and


OPEN YOUR EYES AND USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT.

ND lacks the brains for that. its pretty clear...especially now.

sorry. :-\
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:46:32 PM
lol why let it go when I am not wrong in the first place?

you are the one who needs to admit that:

1) bizzy's screens were not adjusted

and

2) dorian never had tom platz's quads and Brian Buchanan's waist..

 ::)

Hulkster here is PROOF from Bizzy who admits he tampers with pictures

and the waist is relative to the pose and Kevin just told you the picture is untouched , case closed .

Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 08, 2008, 02:47:52 PM
Meltdown has happened.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:49:40 PM
For once in your life ignore what someone else says, or some quote and


OPEN YOUR EYES AND USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT.


Oh please spare me , the photographer said the picture is untouched , he takes NO sides in this ' debate ' he said the ONLY thing he contributed was the lighting

and Yes the quads can be that big , Dorian lost a lot of size all over when he dieted down so yes I can by the pic is real he's 283 pounds in that pic so it's not out of the realm of possibility his quads could be at their biggest
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:50:45 PM
ND lacks the brains for that. its pretty clear...especially now.

sorry. :-\

You just claimed what Horton posted was ' fair ' now you're right back to claiming morphed lol what a sucker
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Emmortal on December 08, 2008, 02:51:10 PM
Hulkster here is PROOF from Bizzy who admits he tampers with pictures

and the waist is relative to the pose and Kevin just told you the picture is untouched , case closed .



Morphing body parts isn't even in the same league as adjusting brightness levels.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: kmhphoto on December 08, 2008, 02:51:20 PM
The below excerpt is taken from this interview from 5 Days Of Dorian:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_interview_1993_gym_shots.htm

[ Q ] Kevin Horton recently presented us at bodybuilding.com with a previously unseen picture of you taken by him in 1995. How would you describe 1995 from a competitive standpoint?

[ Dorian ] Yes I was sent this photo and it looks like I'm backstage at a contest; maybe I did a guest posing somewhere. '95 was a very good year. Obviously I had the bicep injury from the year before but the conditioning at the '95 Olympia was probably superior to '93.

----------

When is the last time you saw a bodybuilder backstage at a contest posing in his underwear as opposed to posing trunks? These details only serve to further lose credibility regarding the obviously morphed photo.

Dorian is wrong about when the shots were taken. They were shot in his gym. I have 100's of unseen shots of him.


Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Emmortal on December 08, 2008, 02:53:18 PM
Dorian is wrong about when the shots were taken. They were shot in his gym. I have 100's of unseen shots of him.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: sculpture on December 08, 2008, 02:53:30 PM

Oh please spare me , the photographer said the picture is untouched , he takes NO sides in this ' debate ' he said the ONLY thing he contributed was the lighting

and Yes the quads can be that big , Dorian lost a lot of size all over when he dieted down so yes I can by the pic is real he's 283 pounds in that pic so it's not out of the realm of possibility his quads could be at their biggest

So basically according to the pics:

On dieting, yates quads lose some of their "fullness" yet his waist gets bigger?

How can his waist be smaller off season than contest yet its the reverse for his quads

Surely you can now see the error in your judgement
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:53:43 PM
Morphing body parts isn't even in the same league as adjusting brightness levels.

NOT just adjusting brightness levels either , see unsharp mask tool and did you miss the part where the photographer said it's untouched? did you miss that?
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:56:31 PM
So basically according to the pics:

On dieting, yates quads lose some of their "fullness" yet his waist gets bigger?

How can his waist be smaller off season than contest yet its the reverse for his quads

Surely you can now see the error in your judgement

his waist is big at that weight you just can't see it in that particular pose  ;) Dorian has commented on losing to much size when he was pre-contest he was sacrificing MUSCLE for what he presumed as hardness he wanted to take no chances and size wasn't his main focus the complete package was

Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Emmortal on December 08, 2008, 02:57:22 PM
NOT just adjusting brightness levels either , see unsharp mask tool and did you miss the part where the photographer said it's untouched? did you miss that?

I didn't miss it.  I just don't trust everything everyone says.  I work in the visual effects industry, it's my job to make fake things look real, my job relies on visual deception so I know how easy it is to fake things.  I'm not saying one way or the other the photo is untouched, but just going by other shots I've seen of Yates that year, I never saw his quads and waist look like that, ever.  That's all I'll say about it.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 03:00:08 PM
I didn't miss it.  I just don't trust everything everyone says.  I work in the visual effects industry, it's my job to make fake things look real, my job relies on visual deception so I know how easy it is to fake things.  I'm not saying one way or the other the photo is untouched, but just going by other shots I've seen of Yates that year, I never saw his quads and waist look like that, ever.  That's all I'll say about it.

You're implying it's worked but don't have the balls to say it

he's 283 pounds in that pic and it's not out of the realm of possibility to think his quads may be at their biggest ever , especially seeing he said 1995 was a good year , clearly evident from his Olympia that year

and my point still stands he keeps denying his buddy touched the screencaps , Kevin Horton exposed him doing and the person who did it admitted he plays with pictures my point still stands he's wrong and a liar
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Emmortal on December 08, 2008, 03:03:40 PM
You're implying it's worked but don't have the balls to say it

he's 283 pounds in that pic and it's not out of the realm of possibility to think his quads may be at their biggest ever , especially seeing he said 1995 was a good year , clearly evident from his Olympia that year

and my point still stands he keeps denying his buddy touched the screencaps , Kevin Horton exposed him doing and the person who did it admitted he plays with pictures my point still stands he's wrong and a liar

Heh, it's not that I don't have the balls to say it, I just don't have enough evidence to logically make a valid opinion.  People do all kinds of sneaky shit to photos, stuff you wouldn't even be able to notice, even trained eyes.  I'm not saying one way or the other, just that I've never seen his quads and waist look like that.  If there are other photos out there supporting that physique, please feel free to post them.

And to say the photo is untouched is not entirely accurate either.  It's already been through photoshop to mask out the background, add the reflection on the floor etc.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 03:07:29 PM
Heh, it's not that I don't have the balls to say it, I just don't have enough evidence to logically make a valid opinion.  People do all kinds of sneaky shit to photos, stuff you wouldn't even be able to notice, even trained eyes.  I'm not saying one way or the other, just that I've never seen his quads and waist look like that.  If there are other photos out there supporting that physique, please feel free to post them.

I didn't post them Kevin did and here are two pictures of Dorian's waist from 1995 Mr Olympia , same contest when held tight his waist looks small when relaxed well you get the idea so that can more than explain the waist appearance

and the quads he's 283 pounds explains why they would be that big
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Emmortal on December 08, 2008, 03:10:35 PM
I didn't post them Kevin did and here are two pictures of Dorian's waist from 1995 Mr Olympia , same contest when held tight his waist looks small when relaxed well you get the idea so that can more than explain the waist appearance

and the quads he's 283 pounds explains why they would be that big

Based on those I could see the photo as being legit.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: kmhphoto on December 08, 2008, 03:25:41 PM
I'm not going to get involved in a drawn out debate about Dorian and Ronnie etc, but I may pop in every now and then over the next few years to add a post or two!

Numerous people including judges, writers photographers have stated that photos do not do Dorian justice and I agree, even though I've taken some of them.

An interesting exercise is to look at the shots that I took of him in 93 and then look at the video that was shot at the same time. The angle of the video reveals the depth to his physique that the photos don't.

Below is a shot that Chris Lund took of him which shows more of that depth.


Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 03:28:58 PM
I'm not going to get involved in a drawn out debate about Dorian and Ronnie etc, but I may pop in every now and then over the next few years to add a post or two!

Numerous people including judges, writers photographers have stated that photos do not do Dorian justice and I agree, even though I've taken some of them.

An interesting exercise is to look at the shots that I took of him in 93 and then look at the video that was shot at the same time. The angle of the video reveals the depth to his physique that the photos don't.

Below is a shot that Chris Lund took of him which shows more of that depth.




another great shot . Kevin thanks for the pictures you posted and I get you not wanting to get involved .
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 03:29:04 PM
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I'm not saying one way or the other the photo is untouched, but just going by other shots I've seen of Yates that year, I never saw his quads and waist look like that, ever

and neither has anyone else, including dorian himself... ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 03:33:52 PM
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and the quads he's 283 pounds explains why they would be that big

um HELLO? ::)

at 300 pounds his quads didn't have that sweep and his waist was HUGE

so how can he have even more massive quads at 283?

and you think his waist shrunk to about half the size at 283 LOL? ::)

holy shit man use your head! ::)

you truly are NaiveDeity.. :-\
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 03:36:13 PM
um HELLO? ::)

at over 300 pounds his quads didn't have that sweep and his waist was HUGE

so how can he have even more massive quads at 283?

and you think his waist shrunk to about half the size? ::)

holy shit man use your head! ::)

you truly are NaiveDeity.. :-\

Man you're having a bad day lol a bad week in fact all due to bodybuilding.com lol Hulkster one has nothing to do with the other one if offseaon guestposing and one is pre-contest prep BIG difference
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: kmhphoto on December 08, 2008, 03:37:48 PM
Is this "Hulkster" ?


Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 03:39:06 PM
Is this "Hulkster" ?




LMFAO I watched that fight and that's exactly Hulkster lol long , long night for The Golden Boy simply outclassed , perfect analogy
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 03:44:19 PM
check it out, for Kevin and ND:

dorian's 95 contest quads

tom platz's quads

dorian's 95 morphed quads



someone did some creative editing..

what is so sad is that ND and Co, including a professional photographer, cannot see how blatant this is... ::)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: kmhphoto on December 08, 2008, 03:47:13 PM
check it out, for Kevin and ND:

dorian's 95 contest quads

tom platz's quads

dorian's 95 morphed quads



someone did some creative editing..

what is so sad is that ND and Co, including a professional photographer, cannot see how blatant this is... ::)

Your example of Platz legs is a good one to show how side lighting reveals depth, whereas the frontal lighting used at contests doesn't.
It's all about the shadows.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: m8 on December 08, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
This picture is obviously real.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Bix on December 08, 2008, 05:27:19 PM
It is definitely morphed, Borton is a lair!
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 08, 2008, 05:39:52 PM
check it out, for Kevin and ND:

dorian's 95 contest quads

tom platz's quads

dorian's 95 morphed quads



someone did some creative editing..

what is so sad is that ND and Co, including a professional photographer, cannot see how blatant this is... ::)

  Huckster the picture is not shopped. What happens is that in the contest pic Dorian is just touching his hips with his clasped hands, while in the black-and-white picture he's actually pushing his waist in with his hands. This is not rocket science.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 05:46:02 PM
  Hucksterthe picture is not shopped. What happens is that i the contest pic Dorian is just touchig his hips with his clasped hands, while in the black-and-white picture he's actually pushing his waist in wi is hands. This is not rocket science.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

its more than just the hands...
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: 240 is Back on December 08, 2008, 05:47:47 PM
It's all about the shadows.

Call it what you'd like.  Someone "shadowed" out his hips.
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 05:50:05 PM
check it out, for Kevin and ND:

dorian's 95 contest quads

tom platz's quads

dorian's 95 morphed quads



someone did some creative editing..

what is so sad is that ND and Co, including a professional photographer, cannot see how blatant this is... ::)

What's your excuse now?  ;)
Title: Re: 5 days of dorian
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 06:09:00 PM
Call it what you'd like.  Someone "shadowed" out his hips.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251407.0;attach=292120;image)


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