RIP: NPC Competitor Joanna Wilson Died In Vegas Prepping for USA!

[Dave D]

Eerie, on the 27th she was remarking how the Vegas temp was 116.

A friend commented, "It was 115 there when we were there for a funeral".

That is hot but you should remember it's a dry heat.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince........

What exactly do you know about the seedy side of bodybuilding?

I competed at shows...why wouldn't I know?  However, I never used any diuretics until my last show at the 2009 NGA Night of Champtions although I used herbal concoction of Dandelion Root and Uva Ursi along with drinking strong black coffee,  rather than that pharmaceutical shit.

To complete at the NPC National level, you have to use the pharms but for regional shows its not needed and you definitely can't use it for natural events.  However, these pictures prove that natural diuretics work fairly well.











BTW, found a old unpublished picture of me practicing my posing routine a few weeks before the event.  I have a few more and I may put them out soon

[Nether Animal]

The pics you took here were the best you have looked IMO



I can't find the FLS one though

[NelsonMuntz]

I competed at shows...why wouldn't I know?  However, I never used any diuretics until my last show at the 2009 NGA Night of Champtions although I used herbal concoction of Dandelion Root and Uva Ursi along with drinking strong black coffee,  rather than that pharmaceutical shit.

To complete at the NPC National level, you have to use the pharms but for regional shows its not needed and you definitely can't use it for natural events.  However, these pictures prove that natural diuretics work fairly well.











BTW, found a old unpublished picture of me practicing my posing routine a few weeks before the event.  I have a few more and I may put them out soon

Holy shit I thought I had long arms

right turn clyde

[SF1900]

I competed at shows...why wouldn't I know?  However, I never used any diuretics until my last show at the 2009 NGA Night of Champtions although I used herbal concoction of Dandelion Root and Uva Ursi along with drinking strong black coffee,  rather than that pharmaceutical shit.

To complete at the NPC National level, you have to use the pharms but for regional shows its not needed and you definitely can't use it for natural events.  However, these pictures prove that natural diuretics work fairly well.

Get the hell out of here!! You never used diuretics. Could have fooled me, Vincenzo!

[Chadwick The Beta]

Get the hell out of here!! You never used diuretics. Could have fooled me, Vincenzo!

If he had said, "I never lifted or dieted," I would have certainly believed him.

[Army of One]

Vince, can you or have you ever been able to dunk a basketball?

[Chadwick The Beta]

Vince, can you or have you ever been able to dunk a basketball?

Only donuts.

[Qwert II]

I competed at shows...why wouldn't I know?  However, I never used any diuretics until my last show at the 2009 NGA Night of Champtions although I used herbal concoction of Dandelion Root and Uva Ursi along with drinking strong black coffee,  rather than that pharmaceutical shit.

To complete at the NPC National level, you have to use the pharms but for regional shows its not needed and you definitely can't use it for natural events.  However, these pictures prove that natural diuretics work fairly well.

Just because someone steps on a BB stage doesn't mean he's a BB or knows what he's doing, in the same regard that a drunk Japanese business man isn't a singer just because he's on a  karaoke stage singing an AABA song.

Do you not understand the difference you fat tub of lard?

You don't, & never have looked like you workout. You are either obese or skinny fat.

You are the quintessential BEFORE picture of people in ads.

[Rudee]

Holy shit I thought I had long arms

right turn clyde

LOL.

[NelsonMuntz]

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[oldschoolfan]

bros how does someone die from  lasix??

ive taken lasix before  and never felt like i was going to die,   i mean maybe 4 tabs,

do competitors like take a shitload of lasix ?

[lilhawk1]

It would not have made a difference.  Heart attack was likely caused y a buildup on potassium in the bloodstream...usually happens from using diuretics.  The only thing that may have saved her would have been some calcium chloride or magnesium perhaps but honestly, but honestly people simply don't prepare for shit to go wrong.

There's a 4 drug cocktail given to people in the hospital with critically high potassium levels.  It's just a little more complicated than giving some calcium or magnesium. That's if her potassium was high, it could have been low.  A lot of these morons competing are taking potassium sparing diuretics, then taking potassium with them because they don't know what diuretic they're taking.  It's just sheer stupidity, and honestly I'm surprised this doesn't happen to more people.  

[Walter Sobchak]

You seriously think you can just pee out all the potassium from the use of contest prep diuretics???  You're a fucking moron if you believe that shit and don't give condolences with one gimmick account and talk shit with your other account  

What the fuck are you talking about you shit colored fucking asshole?

Go fuck yourself - a person has passed away and I will offer my condolences if I want to, you retarded chimp dicking sucking, brokeass piece of fucking shit.

You know sweet fuck all about contest prep. Look at those fucking pics you've posted. You are obviously fucking retarded and certainly not cursed with self-awareness.

We will continue this in another thread you brainless kunt, out of respect for the deceased.

Cross-eyed cockloving babboon.

[Go 4 It]

I hate diuretics. They are NOT needed to get ripped and dry!!!

This, with maybe the exception of bodybuilding..any other categories definitely not needed. I mean, I'm all for setting personal goals and achieving your dreams, but is attaining a procard especially when you're individual in your 40's really going to propel the quality of your life to another level? I can see maybe if theres tons of prize money and sponsorships immediately coming once you go from an amateur to pro, like in the NFL, NBA, MLB...one minute these guys are college students and the minute they get drafted there lives are immediately changed and are millionares overnight, but to take such drastic measures with so little to gain I don't see the risk vs reward here. Very sad stuff, especially for the family. RIP

[oldschoolfan]

This, with maybe the exception of bodybuilding..any other categories definitely not needed. I mean, I'm all for setting personal goals and achieving your dreams, but is attaining a procard especially when you're individual in your 40's really going to propel the quality of your life to another level? I can see maybe if theres tons of prize money and sponsorships immediately coming once you go from an amateur to pro, like in the NFL, NBA, MLB...one minute these guys are college students and the minute they get drafted there lives are immediately changed and are millionares overnight, but to take such drastic measures with so little to gain I don't see the risk vs reward here. Very sad stuff, especially for the family. RIP

by all accounts this woman had a training business and seemed to be doing ok for herself ,   some people i think are so unhappy

with there body , they will do anything to achieve  that look. despite risking there health and death.  bodybuilding and health i love

but the sport of bodybuilding can be very dangerous. weve seen that over the years.and there isnt much financial reward in that

[SF1900]

by all accounts this woman had a training business and seemed to be doing ok for herself ,   some people i think are so unhappy

with there body , they will do anything to achieve  that look. despite risking there health and death.  bodybuilding and health i love

but the sport of bodybuilding can be very dangerous. weve seen that over the years.and there isnt much financial reward in that

Mr. Oldschoolfan,

What do you think fuels this crazy obsession (bodybuilding)?

[oldschoolfan]

Mr. Oldschoolfan,

What do you think fuels this crazy obsession (bodybuilding)?

from my own experience from being overweight as a kid i think it stems from self hate to a degree.   especially those who take it to the extremes.

some people i think no matter how good they look it is never enough . i enjoy my training and getting lean , but i can

ever see myself spending 1000's a year on drugs just to be the biggest guy around not that i ever would be

there comes a point in your life when you just realize you will never be the biggest or the best out there, there are other just more genetically

gifted. but i do believe there are people out there that are really into bodybuilding who cant accept this and they keep trying and trying no matter

what to reach that pinnacle they will never reach

[SF1900]

from my own experience from being overweight as a kid i think it stems from self hate to a degree.   especially those who take it to the extremes.

some people i think no matter how good they look it is never enough . i enjoy my training and getting lean , but i can

ever see myself spending 1000's a year on drugs just to be the biggest guy around not that i ever would be

there comes a point in your life when you just realize you will never be the biggest or the best out there, there are other just more genetically

gifted. but i do believe there are people out there that are really into bodybuilding who cant accept this and they keep trying and trying no matter

what to reach that pinnacle they will never reach

Good insight, OSF!

Yes, I believe a lot of it comes down to not feeling comfortable in one's skin. When we were all younger, we would all run to the store with big smiles on our faces and pick up the new Flex Magazine edition. We would run home, look up at our fathers and say, "Im going to be Mr. Olympia one day, dad." But, as we get older, we realize that we have too many genetic limitations. As such, we go down another path. However, deep inside of us, will always lurk that dream of being BIG!! It just lays dormant!!

[oldschoolfan]

Good insight, OSF!

Yes, I believe a lot of it comes down to not feeling comfortable in one's skin. When we were all younger, we would all run to the store with big smiles on our faces and pick up the new Flex Magazine edition. We would run home, look up at our fathers and say, "Im going to be Mr. Olympia one day, dad." But, as we get older, we realize that we have too many genetic limitations. As such, we go down another path. However, deep inside of us, will always lurk that dream of being BIG!! It just lays dormant!!

ha yes you go that right , my first gym was  a powerhouse gym, and there were some serious lifters in there, i remember guys in there early 20's talking about getting up to 270 like dorian yates  , and were willing to do whatever it took to get to that size.   

i even knew a guy who was juiced to the gills , would try anything his skin would break out bad,  he did gay4pay and did gay porn, just so he could buy his drugs to pursue his bodybuilding career !

i knew another guy  who competed qualified for the nationals eat lived and breathed bodybuilding he decided to buy a gym, and he lost his ass and went into massive debt in the process.

[SF1900]

ha yes you go that right , my first gym was  a powerhouse gym, and there were some serious lifters in there, i remember guys in there early 20's talking about getting up to 270 like dorian yates  , and were willing to do whatever it took to get to that size.   

i even knew a guy who was juiced to the gills , would try anything his skin would break out bad,  he did gay4pay and did gay porn, just so he could buy his drugs to pursue his bodybuilding career !

i knew another guy  who competed qualified for the nationals eat lived and breathed bodybuilding he decided to buy a gym, and he lost his ass and went into massive debt in the process.

OSF, that is crazy. I am glad you never went down that path!

[oldschoolfan]

OSF, that is crazy. I am glad you never went down that path!

sf what do you think about all the bad info on youtube now,  you got a bunch of juiced up guys who claim they are natural and con these kids and adults into buying all these shitty overpriced supplements and diet plans   so that one day they can look like there heroes on youtube.

[SF1900]

sf what do you think about all the bad info on youtube now,  you got a bunch of juiced up guys who claim they are natural and con these kids and adults into buying all these shitty overpriced supplements and diet plans   so that one day they can look like there heroes on youtube.

I think it is EXTREMELY unethical. I believe that companies, even individually owned companies, have an ethical obligation to the consumer. Sure, buyer beware should always be heeded; nonetheless, we rely on these organizations because we should be able to entrust in them, the same way you trust a doctor. No difference. There definitely should be some level of transparency by the organization with a healthy dose of "buyer beware" by the customer.

[oldschoolfan]

I think it is EXTREMELY unethical. I believe that companies, even individually owned companies, have an ethical obligation to the consumer. Sure, buyer beware should always be heeded; nonetheless, we rely on these organizations because we should be able to entrust in them, the same way you trust a doctor. No difference. There definitely should be some level of transparency by the organization with a healthy dose of "buyer beware" by the customer.

i totally agree its disgusting to me.    and isnt right guys like seid, simeon panda, ogus, they are digusting con men.

what they do is just wrong. and i am surprised there are so many naive people out there.

[SF1900]

i totally agree its disgusting to me.    and isnt right guys like seid, simeon panda, ogus, they are digusting con men.

what they do is just wrong. and i am surprised there are so many naive people out there.

OSF, we were all once naive teenagers. I pretty much tried every muscle-tech product out there when I first started to lift.