Climate Change debunked.

[loco]

Internet data centers are fueling drive to old power source: Coal

"There, massive data centers with computers processing nearly 70 percent of global digital traffic are gobbling up electricity at a rate officials overseeing the power grid say is unsustainable unless two things happen: Several hundred miles of new transmission lines must be built, slicing through neighborhoods and farms in Virginia and three neighboring states. And antiquated coal-powered electricity plants that had been scheduled to go offline will need to keep running to fuel the increasing need for more power, undermining clean energy goals."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/internet-data-centers-fueling-drive-150206807.html

[IroNat]

Remember the big lie. If we don't do something the sea water will rise destroying the planet. Yet, Obama and Biden live on ocean front property.  They don't have any fear of rising sea water. If that lie was true banks world wide wouldn't give 30 year mortgages to people that wanted to buy ocean front property. 

If we did absolutely nothing there would be no changes in 100 years due to cars and power plants that would effect our life style.

Some legit points here.

[Amerian Muscle]

Just read this paper

https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/printable-2023-02-23-E-Challenging-Net-Zero-with-Science.pdf

[Mayday]

The Western world is currently creating the 2nd material shortage. this is the one that will really hurt. cars will go +40% from here, huge EV shortages.

Free trade agreements with Asia will go and tariffs come back into plag. This one is a no brainer that i had back in 2020 ti olay out before 2030.

future solar panel shortages opens the door to regulation of personal energy production. it's not retrospective so anyone like me who has the maximum allowed for residential prior to regulation  (i have 40kw) keeps what they have meanwhile new installs get capped at 15kw.  This is bigger than 99% realise.

[oldtimer1]

Imagine owning a house and in under 10 years Democrats mandate you have to convert your house to electric heat, water heater, dryer and stove. Then the mandate will be mandatory solar panels. Too top it off the only cars you will be able to buy are electric. Buying two electric cars and all the rest will cost you 200k. If you don't comply the equity in your house will gone when you sell. Those renting will see soaring rents as apartment buildings will have to comply too with car chargers thrown in for each apartment.

China will laugh all the way to the bank producing wind mills, car batteries, solar panels, electric stoves, dryers, heaters and the rest made in factories powered by coal power plants. Taxes will soar as the US electric grid will have to be completely redone to handle the load and power plants will explode in numbers trying to power the electric need.

Meanwhile the scam of climate change will have no impact because of all of this and the US economy will be destroyed. The first power outage in winter states will result in 50K worth of plumbing damage as pipes freeze.  Everything we buy will be off the charts higher with electric trucks that can't function like diesel trucks. 

[Van_Bilderass]

What I don't understand is how you guys are so confident of your position on climate change? Of course there can be conspiracies and of course people can lie, but how can a layman judge one way or another? To me the science must be very complex and you'd need a really outsized IQ as well as education to even begin to consider the arguments. People are so sure about everything, the more stupid someone is usually the more sure he is. It's especially ridiculous when some nobody lectures a real scientist on science. Arrogant and stupid lol.

[a_pupil]

Weather is certainly getting milder in the UK compared to when I was a kid.

We used to go to school in knee deep snow, while nowadays they shut the schools down the moment a few flakes fall lol.

I don't think humans can do anything to change it at this point.

[J. Richards]

Every one of those protesters deserves savagely beaten perhaps even to death. Fucking useless annoying cunts

smaller carbon footprint without them...  wonder if they've thought of that...  how far would they go for their "cause" ?   

[Humble Narcissist]

Imagine owning a house and in under 10 years Democrats mandate you have to convert your house to electric heat, water heater, dryer and stove. Then the mandate will be mandatory solar panels. Too top it off the only cars you will be able to buy are electric. Buying two electric cars and all the rest will cost you 200k. If you don't comply the equity in your house will gone when you sell. Those renting will see soaring rents as apartment buildings will have to comply too with car chargers thrown in for each apartment.

China will laugh all the way to the bank producing wind mills, car batteries, solar panels, electric stoves, dryers, heaters and the rest made in factories powered by coal power plants. Taxes will soar as the US electric grid will have to be completely redone to handle the load and power plants will explode trying to power the electric need.

Meanwhile the scam of climate change will have no impact because of all of this and the US economy will be destroyed. The first power outage in winter states will result in 50K worth of plumbing damage as pipes freeze.  Everything we buy will be off the charts higher with electric trucks that can't function like diesel trucks.

They think the climate will be saved just by the White countries obeying these stupid rules. China, India, Brazil, etc, have no intention of saving the planet.

[Gym Rat]

"Climate change" 

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[pamith]

Climate change is a hoax!

[_bruce_]

They think the climate will be saved just by the White countries obeying these stupid rules. China, India, Brazil, etc, have no intention of saving the planet.

Exactly it's a scam to ruin the remaining wealth of the West.

[Marvin Martian]

What I don't understand is how you guys are so confident of your position on climate change? Of course there can be conspiracies and of course people can lie, but how can a layman judge one way or another? To me the science must be very complex and you'd need a really outsized IQ as well as education to even begin to consider the arguments. People are so sure about everything, the more stupid someone is usually the more sure he is. It's especially ridiculous when some nobody lectures a real scientist on science. Arrogant and stupid lol.

Like all the “science” behind the Covid vaccine?? Was is stupid for “nobody’s” to “do their own research” and realize what a complete SCAM the vax was / is?

[OAK]

 

[The Scott]

FUQUE  YOU  TO  HADES  OAK!

[IroNat]

Imagine owning a house and in under 10 years Democrats mandate you have to convert your house to electric heat, water heater, dryer and stove. Then the mandate will be mandatory solar panels. Too top it off the only cars you will be able to buy are electric. Buying two electric cars and all the rest will cost you 200k. If you don't comply the equity in your house will gone when you sell. Those renting will see soaring rents as apartment buildings will have to comply too with car chargers thrown in for each apartment.

China will laugh all the way to the bank producing wind mills, car batteries, solar panels, electric stoves, dryers, heaters and the rest made in factories powered by coal power plants. Taxes will soar as the US electric grid will have to be completely redone to handle the load and power plants will explode trying to power the electric need.

Meanwhile the scam of climate change will have no impact because of all of this and the US economy will be destroyed. The first power outage in winter states will result in 50K worth of plumbing damage as pipes freeze.  Everything we buy will be off the charts higher with electric trucks that can't function like diesel trucks. 

Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.

[MajorDomo]

What I don't understand is how you guys are so confident of your position on climate change? Of course there can be conspiracies and of course people can lie, but how can a layman judge one way or another? To me the science must be very complex and you'd need a really outsized IQ as well as education to even begin to consider the arguments. People are so sure about everything, the more stupid someone is usually the more sure he is. It's especially ridiculous when some nobody lectures a real scientist on science. Arrogant and stupid lol.

Actually no. "Scientists" are just as full of shit as laymen when it comes to anything outside their field of research- and many times they live in such a fucking bubble that they are clueless. I was in grad school for a PhD in organic chemistry but eventually quit when I realized it was essentially prolonged adolescence.

The typical university researcher lives off the grant tit for as long as possible. You can get them to come up with any conclusion as long as you give them enough money. Hell - during Covid many medical researchers toed the party line because they were in fear of losing their funding.

The absolute best raw research comes from internal R&D groups at corporations that never publish their findings. The shit HAS to be real or else it can't be used. Bell Labs at one time was the greatest research institution on earth and it was all private.  Arno Penzias won the Nobel Prize while working at Bell for something he accidentally discovered in the course of his day to day activities.

I worked at both Xerox and then IBM corporate research facilities- the people there were definitely world class- but you'll never hear about them because of confidentiality.

Climate change will go down as one one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the world.

[Van_Bilderass]

Actually no. "Scientists" are just as full of shit as laymen when it comes to anything outside their field of research- and many times they live in such a fucking bubble that they are clueless. I was in grad school for a PhD in organic chemistry but eventually quit when I realized it was essentially prolonged adolescence.

The typical university researcher lives off the grant tit for as long as possible. You can get them to come up with any conclusion as long as you give them enough money. Hell - during Covid many medical researchers toed the party line because they were in fear of losing their funding.

The absolute best raw research comes from internal R&D groups at corporations that never publish their findings. The shit HAS to be real or else it can't be used. Bell Labs at one time was the greatest research institution on earth and it was all private.  Arno Penzias won the Nobel Prize while working at Bell for something he accidentally discovered in the course of his day to day activities.

I worked at both Xerox and then IBM corporate research facilities- the people there were definitely world class- but you'll never hear about them because of confidentiality.

Climate change will go down as one one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the world.

So any high school dropout is just as qualified to debunk climate change or the vaxx or 9/11 or what have you, and specialised knowledge is worth exactly nothing?

We defer to "experts" on a number of subjects because even if we have some specilised knowledge on one subject we can't be experts at everything.

I maintain that the average getbigger is a complete dumbass on most subjects, and I count myself among them.

Like all the “science” behind the Covid vaccine?? Was is stupid for “nobody’s” to “do their own research” and realize what a complete SCAM the vax was / is?

Yes most vaxx fanatics are dumbasses. You know well what kind of "research" most do, it's google and reading links someone sent them on social media. They have no ability to verify the validity.

This does not mean there are no valid criticisms, I have not taken the vaxx myself for example.

[Gym Rat]

Climate change will go down as one one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the world.

Like every demturd initiative. Pregnant men, killer "vax", fake-racism, LMNOP, Uke, China-Joe, kid-sniffing, cannibals, dead Beau, etc..

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha "Dead Beau"... 

[joswift]

So any high school dropout is just as qualified to debunk climate change or the vaxx or 9/11 or what have you, and specialised knowledge is worth exactly nothing?

We defer to "experts" on a number of subjects because even if we have some specilised knowledge on one subject we can't be experts at everything.

I maintain that the average getbigger is a complete dumbass on most subjects, and I count myself among them.

You dont have to have letters after your name to make you right.
A high school drop out is just as "right" as long as his argument is sound and reasoning valid.

Some "scientists" believe there are more than two genders

[Van_Bilderass]

You dont have to have letters after your name to make you right.
A high school drop out is just as "right" as long as his argument is sound and reasoning valid.

Some "scientists" believe there are more than two genders

I know what you mean. But there is something to this thing they call science. Many things are politicised for sure. Just recently they released unredacted emails between Fauci and other scientists which showed, if we believe they were sincere in their private communications, that they did NOT know if the virus came from a lab but they still approved of some reserch paper where it was argued that "natural origins" was the most plausible explanation... so politics most probably affected this. But all these CTs have argued that they KNOW the vaxx contains nanorobots, the mark of the beast as profesied in the bible. Zillotch here on GB KNEW, a couple of years ago, that 50% of vaxx takers would be dead by now. I told him well let's see in a while and here we are.

[Mayday]

Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.

There is a huge scare campaign on EVs down here in the media. People parrot the same message as the media which is how it goes viral.

Meanwhile the world’s best selling car is an EV.

There is a copper and tin shortage bubbling away in the background. The ME potential war means a +50% fuel price likely in the next year. Both will lead to a supply crunch on EVs.

Yes there are manufacturers pulling back from EVs, do you know why? Because theirs aren’t selling meanwhile other brands are. Who do you think is pushing the scare campaign?

In 2025 most EVs will come out supporting biodirectional charging. This means your home solar charges your car with the excess solar and when the house needs to pull energy from the grid it will pull it from the car instead. One can be completely off grid.

[BEEFCAKE]

There is a huge scare campaign on EVs down here in the media. People parrot the same message as the media which is how it goes viral.

Meanwhile the world’s best selling car is an EV.

There is a copper and tin shortage bubbling away in the background. The ME potential war means a +50% fuel price likely in the next year. Both will lead to a supply crunch on EVs.

Yes there are manufacturers pulling back from EVs, do you know why? Because theirs aren’t selling meanwhile other brands are. Who do you think is pushing the scare campaign?

In 2025 most EVs will come out supporting biodirectional charging. This means your home solar charges your car with the excess solar and when the house needs to pull energy from the grid it will pull it from the car instead. One can be completely off grid.

all of your little EV fantasy's are never happening, you are going to end up in a mud hut eating bugs with the rest of us , just watch

[Humble Narcissist]

Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.

Tesla wouldn't be in business now if it weren't for government funding.

[Gym Rat]

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/