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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #350 on: May 03, 2024, 05:08:54 AM »
You dont have crohns because you say so, its not me saying it.
Everything you post about your diet and lifestyle would be impossible if you had crohns.
Crohns sufferers take medication and have very bland diets
I work with a guy who takes 8 medications and can only eat white food

If he ate your "sausage and gravy with biscuits" it would kill him

Be that as it may I have Crohn's and it has been confirmed with bloodwork not sure what part of that you don't get. I even shared that bloodwork here previously and it says Crohn's all over it. Sorry it being in remission for a couple weeks bothers you. 


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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #351 on: May 03, 2024, 05:09:46 AM »
Be that as it may I have Crohn's and it has been confirmed with bloodwork not sure what part of that you don't get

Did a doctor who doesnt know anything confirm it or was it one who agreed with you?

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #352 on: May 03, 2024, 05:12:33 AM »
Did a doctor who doesnt know anything confirm it or was it one who agreed with you?

You act like I went to a Dr and said I have Crohn's can you confirm it. I went to a Dr with Digestion issues they ran multiple test and told me I had Crohn's. The lab work they sent out to other Drs came back saying Crohn's as well. Not sure why I have to argue with you about it.

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #353 on: May 03, 2024, 05:12:55 AM »
Or maybe I have actually used HGH in the past after multiple surgeries and I have had the same surgeries without using it and I know it fucking helps you daft twat

Doctors not even being casually familiar with studies in their field is wrong you talking like you know something is wrong

"HGH can speed up the recovery of the original injury that required surgery. It can speed the healing of surgical wounds. It can help to reduce inflammation and help prevent post-surgical bacterial infection, all because of its ability to boost your body’s healing and immune response."

Not the point Brian.

You just said I am an idiot for thinking I know things just because I read.   You claim to read things.....and want to be recognized for reading but by your own statement you are no better than me.

In case you do not know this...Doctors have to take continuing education.  They have to sit through seminars and read research articles to maintain their license.  They aren't interested in some gym rat who wants HGH for his bodybuilding goals and to help his rats nest look better.

I do know "something" because for almost 25 years of practice I HAVE had to know things.  I have to be able to speak with PCP's, orthopedics, neurologists, neurosurgeons, etc.  I have to be able to have peer to peer reviews when discussing patient options with clinical teams. I have to amass 90 hours of continuing education every couple of years for my license.   

What do you do : "derp derp derp...I think I will google something about HGH because this guy at the gym said it will help me with ABC...look at me, I know more than specialists do because of that....duhhhhhhh"

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #354 on: May 03, 2024, 05:17:45 AM »
You act like I went to a Dr and said I have Crohn's can you confirm it. I went to a Dr with Digestion issues they ran multiple test and told me I had Crohn's. The lab work they sent out to other Drs came back saying Crohn's as well. Not sure why I have to argue with you about it.

More like :

Doctor : Alright Brian, you're shitting in your pants and I have reviewed your history and looked over your diet.  It would appear...

Brian : I have Crohns, now prescribe me some HGH.  I read about and convinced other wanna be "doctors" to give it to me.

Doctor : Umm...thats not what I was going to say

Brian : You think you know anything because you've read some articles.  I know more....I fought everyone every day I was in school.  I will fucking rag doll you and Mike Tyson at the same time if you don't give me my HGH and tramadol

Doctor : Ummm Nurse, call security

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #355 on: May 03, 2024, 05:17:58 AM »
You act like I went to a Dr and said I have Crohn's can you confirm it. I went to a Dr with Digestion issues they ran multiple test and told me I had Crohn's. The lab work they sent out to other Drs came back saying Crohn's as well. Not sure why I have to argue with you about it.


Most Dr don't know shit they are shockingly uneducated

I also have real world exp I don't just read and then pretend to know something

What if the doctors who told you had crohns didnt know shit and werent educated?

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #356 on: May 03, 2024, 05:28:10 AM »

What if the doctors who told you had crohns didnt know shit and werent educated?

They dont know shit which is why I am not taking the multiple daily medications they prescribed

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #357 on: May 03, 2024, 05:36:46 AM »
Hold on for just onnnnnnnne second everyone.   I just learned about something new...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2074872/

Narcotic bowel syndrome (NBS) is a subset of opioid bowel dysfunction that is characterized by chronic or frequently recurring abdominal pain that worsens with continued or escalating dosages of narcotics. This syndrome is under recognized and may be becoming more prevalent. This may be due in the United States to increases in using narcotics for chronic non-malignant painful disorders, and the development of maladaptive therapeutic interactions around its use. NBS can occur in patients with no prior gastrointestinal disorder who receive high dosages of narcotics after surgery or acute painful problems, among patients with functional GI disorders or other chronic gastrointestinal diseases who are managed by physicians unaware of the hyperalgesic effects of chronic opioids.

Hmmm....something sounds VERRRRRY familiar.   I can not place my finger on it.

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #358 on: May 03, 2024, 05:38:51 AM »
Hold on for just onnnnnnnne second everyone.   I just learned about something new...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2074872/

Narcotic bowel syndrome (NBS) is a subset of opioid bowel dysfunction that is characterized by chronic or frequently recurring abdominal pain that worsens with continued or escalating dosages of narcotics. This syndrome is under recognized and may be becoming more prevalent. This may be due in the United States to increases in using narcotics for chronic non-malignant painful disorders, and the development of maladaptive therapeutic interactions around its use. NBS can occur in patients with no prior gastrointestinal disorder who receive high dosages of narcotics after surgery or acute painful problems, among patients with functional GI disorders or other chronic gastrointestinal diseases who are managed by physicians unaware of the hyperalgesic effects of chronic opioids.

Hmmm....something sounds VERRRRRY familiar.   I can not place my finger on it.

Hey you guys want to pretend I am just sitting aorund shooting heroin all day have at it I don't care

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #359 on: May 03, 2024, 05:47:24 AM »
Hey you guys want to pretend I am just sitting aorund shooting heroin all day have at it I don't care

Walks like a duck...quacks like a duck....must be Bhank

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #360 on: May 03, 2024, 05:56:02 AM »
The patients most at risk for developing chronic opioid use (COU) included women, those of advanced age, and those with a history of multiple surgeries, endoscopies, or hospitalizations.  Patients who had a history of psychiatric disorders, arthritis, chronic pain, and history of prior opioid use before being diagnosed with CD (Crohns Diseas) were more likely to develop COU after their CD was diagnosed.  Patients who continue to have inadequate disease control will continue to be at risk for COU

Things that just seem to make you go hmmmmm

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #361 on: May 03, 2024, 06:01:35 AM »
The patients most at risk for developing chronic opioid use (COU) included women, those of advanced age, and those with a history of multiple surgeries, endoscopies, or hospitalizations.  Patients who had a history of psychiatric disorders, arthritis, chronic pain, and history of prior opioid use before being diagnosed with CD (Crohns Diseas) were more likely to develop COU after their CD was diagnosed.  Patients who continue to have inadequate disease control will continue to be at risk for COU

Things that just seem to make you go hmmmmm

I have not had a single pain killer since last July when I was given 20 for a medical problem. I don't drink. I don't stay out late. I make sure to get my macros everyday and workout. I limit myself to 1 caffeinated beverage a day. I make sure to get 8 hours sleep. Yet now you guys want to pretend I am a junky lol that's cool.

Weird despite apparently not working, out eating like shit, looking like shit and being a full-on heroin junky I still managed to win an NPC show. Absolutely amazing

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #362 on: May 03, 2024, 06:12:23 AM »
I have not had a single pain killer since last July when I was given 20 for a medical problem. I don't drink. I don't stay out late. I make sure to get my macros everyday and workout. I limit myself to 1 caffeinated beverage a day. I make sure to get 8 hours sleep. Yet now you guys want to pretend I am a junky lol that's cool.

Weird despite apparently not working, out eating like shit, looking like shit and being a full-on heroin junky I still managed to win an NPC show. Absolutely amazing

Oh, we're supposed to take your word for it.

You "won" as you were the least shitty looking.  Despite your shitty legs, you would "win" in a one-legged butt kicking contest.  How impressive is that?

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #363 on: May 03, 2024, 06:23:22 AM »
I fucking warned you Brian...

Opioid drugs interact with three classes of opioid receptors: mu opioid receptors (MOR), delta opioid receptors (DOR) and kappa opioid receptors (KOR), but opioid drugs mostly target the MORs.

The µ-opioid receptors are activated in the wall of the stomach and the small and large intestine by both endogenous (e.g. enkephalins, endorphins and dynorphins) and exogenous (e.g. morphine, oxycodone, methadone) opioids and modify GI function. 

Activation of opioid receptors in the submucosa inhibits water and electrolyte secretion into the gut lumen and increases fluid absorption from the intestine and blood flow in the gut wall.

Chymotrypsin and trypsin break proteins down to tripeptides, dipeptides, and individual amino acids. The cells that line the small intestine release additional enzymes that also contribute to the enzymatic digestion of polypeptides.  Tripeptides, dipeptides, and single amino acids enter the enterocytes of the small intestine using active transport systems, which require ATP. Once inside, the tripeptides and dipeptides are all broken down to single amino acids, which are absorbed into the bloodstream.

Submucosal secretomotor neurons release acetylcholine and VIP, which activate muscarinic and VIP receptors on the basolateral surface of the enterocytes, which can activate epithelial cell chloride channels. Chloride moves from the enterocyte cytoplasm into the gut lumen. H2O follows chloride via an osmotic mechanism. Opioid drugs activating MOR and DOR on secretomotor neurons suppress acetylcholine and VIP release, resulting in a decrease in chloride secretion and osmotic water movement.

The resultant reduction of osmotic water movement has an inhibitory effect on the di and tripeptides being shuttled into the bloodstream



But wait....because you said it "slows digestion down" it absolutely means you absorb more nutrients.  Idiot druggie

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #364 on: May 03, 2024, 06:29:54 AM »
I fucking warned you Brian...

Opioid drugs interact with three classes of opioid receptors: mu opioid receptors (MOR), delta opioid receptors (DOR) and kappa opioid receptors (KOR), but opioid drugs mostly target the MORs.

The µ-opioid receptors are activated in the wall of the stomach and the small and large intestine by both endogenous (e.g. enkephalins, endorphins and dynorphins) and exogenous (e.g. morphine, oxycodone, methadone) opioids and modify GI function. 

Activation of opioid receptors in the submucosa inhibits water and electrolyte secretion into the gut lumen and increases fluid absorption from the intestine and blood flow in the gut wall.

Chymotrypsin and trypsin break proteins down to tripeptides, dipeptides, and individual amino acids. The cells that line the small intestine release additional enzymes that also contribute to the enzymatic digestion of polypeptides.  Tripeptides, dipeptides, and single amino acids enter the enterocytes of the small intestine using active transport systems, which require ATP. Once inside, the tripeptides and dipeptides are all broken down to single amino acids, which are absorbed into the bloodstream.

Submucosal secretomotor neurons release acetylcholine and VIP, which activate muscarinic and VIP receptors on the basolateral surface of the enterocytes, which can activate epithelial cell chloride channels. Chloride moves from the enterocyte cytoplasm into the gut lumen. H2O follows chloride via an osmotic mechanism. Opioid drugs activating MOR and DOR on secretomotor neurons suppress acetylcholine and VIP release, resulting in a decrease in chloride secretion and osmotic water movement.

The resultant reduction of osmotic water movement has an inhibitory effect on the di and tripeptides being shuttled into the bloodstream



But wait....because you said it "slows digestion down" it absolutely means you absorb more nutrients.  Idiot druggie

Again the longer food is in your digestive tract the more nutrients you absorb this is not rocket science

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #365 on: May 03, 2024, 06:32:06 AM »
Oh, we're supposed to take your word for it.

You "won" as you were the least shitty looking.  Despite your shitty legs, you would "win" in a one-legged butt kicking contest.  How impressive is that?

I don't care what you believe but if you think I won a bodybuilding show with a heroin addiction then I must be one bad ass guy

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #366 on: May 03, 2024, 07:08:15 AM »
Again the longer food is in your digestive tract the more nutrients you absorb this is not rocket science

You take drugs, its not rocket science either.

I don't care what you believe but if you think I won a bodybuilding show with a heroin addiction then I must be one bad ass guy

When did I say you take heroin?  You keep mentioning it.   Guilty conscious?

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #367 on: May 03, 2024, 07:09:10 AM »
Bhanky,
What's this about you being an old crone?

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #368 on: May 03, 2024, 07:48:19 AM »
You dont have crohns because you say so, its not me saying it.
Everything you post about your diet and lifestyle would be impossible if you had crohns.
Crohns sufferers take medication and have very bland diets
I work with a guy who takes 8 medications and can only eat white food

If he ate your "sausage and gravy with biscuits" it would kill him

He’s never once been able to post anything from a doctor saying he has Crohns.

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #369 on: May 03, 2024, 07:49:42 AM »
They dont know shit which is why I am not taking the multiple daily medications they prescribed
So they tell you its crohns and you believe them, they then precribe you meds which you dont take because they dont know shit?

Fucking clown world

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #370 on: May 03, 2024, 07:52:20 AM »
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Most commonly, Crohn's affects your small intestine and the beginning of your large intestine. However, the disease can affect any part of your digestive tract, from your mouth to your anus.

Looks like Brians crohns has mixed his mouth and anus up hence all the shit he talks.

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #371 on: May 03, 2024, 07:53:41 AM »
Hey you guys want to pretend I am just sitting aorund shooting heroin all day have at it I don't care

Classic Hanky straw man deflection which in my mind proves it. No one said shit about heroin. Did the court drug tests exclude whatever was “prescribed”?  Likely.

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #372 on: May 03, 2024, 07:56:09 AM »
Classic Hanky straw ma. deflection which in my mind proves it. No one said shit about heroin. Did the court drug tests exclude whatever was “prescribed”?  Likely.
him saying hes not shooting heroin means hes smoking it...

Remember its all semantics with fuckhead

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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #373 on: May 03, 2024, 08:17:07 AM »
him saying hes not shooting heroin means hes smoking it...

Remember its all semantics with fuckhead

Showing absolute physiology of the breakdown and absorption of protein mechanisms....then what opioids DO to those mechanisms.....classic Brian to say that's bullshit because he knows more.  Shown proof on what tramadol is listed as NOW and because he doesn't get the 'opioid itch' it means that its not.

The only good part about this is that I am able to list these things on my 'soft hours' for my continuing education. 


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Re: Hormones and intense excercise builds muscle
« Reply #374 on: May 03, 2024, 08:50:29 AM »
GET BIGGERS,,,,this thread started of good intentions and some good replies..now its a bhanks thread yet again..