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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bigbalddaddy on May 08, 2008, 12:40:42 PM
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No way will anyone in thier right mind who makes money on bodybuilding will ever try to make it an olympic sport. Just look at the USADA list of how many people were tested. It's easy to tell their interests...If BB goes to the Olympics guess what? Testing...and ummm...I can't imagine how that would turn out!!! ::)
http://www.usantidoping.org/files/active/resources/press_releases/Final%202007%20Testing%20Numbers.pdf
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Most athletes in the Olympics are probably using anyway. They just don't get caught. Maybe I'm being cynical though ???
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many nights i've wondered why bodybuilding will never be in the olympics...
those sleepless nights ill never get back :'(
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Most athletes in the Olympics are probably using anyway. They just don't get caught. Maybe I'm being cynical though ???
True, less doses and much smarter than jugheads...
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So you're saying that not being a sport has nothing to do with its exclusion from the Games?
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many nights i've wondered why bodybuilding will never be in the olympics...
those sleepless nights ill never get back :'(
LOL
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Not many sports are in the Olympics...
In fact, baseball and softball were both voted out of the Olympics, so they will be there for 2008 Beiging, but not for 2012 London.
The sport before that which was elminated out of the Olympics in 1930 was Polo.
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So you're saying that not being a sport has nothing to do with its exclusion from the Games?
Yeah, first it would have to be a sport which it's not and never will be as long as Weiders are around. Then the people who put on shows would have to agree to test at their shows which would mean nobody showed up to watch or participate other than some skinny natural guys. And for some reason grown men are infatuated with watching huge juiced to the gills guys in tights...Trust me, Skip I highly doubt would show up if he really knew he could be subject to in and out of competition testing. No fans, no contestants, no sport...I guess it all goes hand in hand...
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Not many sports are in the Olympics...
In fact, baseball and softball were both voted out of the Olympics, so they will be there for 2008 Beiging, but not for 2012 London.
The sport before that which was elminated out of the Olympics in 1930 was Polo.
I don't know much about baseball, but would there even be any nation that could give the USA even a hint of competition?
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I don't know much about baseball, but would there even be any nation that could give the USA even a hint of competition?
2004 Athens Olympics Baseball results
Gold - Cuba
Silver - Australia
Bronze - Japan
2006 World Baseball Classic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_World_Baseball_Classic)
1. Japan
2. Cuba
3. Korea
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The Olympics suck anyways. The only thing worth watching is women's volleyball.
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The Olympic committee can't find enough Schmoes to Judge BB fairly.Oh and the DRUG ABUSE may have something to do with it.MAYBE ::)
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The Olympic committee can't find enough Schmoes to Judge BB fairly.Oh and the DRUG ABUSE may have something to do with it.MAYBE ::)
Ohhh don't be foolish...5000mg/wk of test, 150mg/day of a-bombs, 15 i.u of GH/day, 40 i.u. of slin/day, 200mg/day of winny, handfulls of cytomel/clen (whatever you can find), DNP i/v drip and enough synthol to fill the crankcase of your car engine is hardly "DRUG ABUSE"...Oh, i'm sorry, you must have meant the 8 ball/day maintenance ABUSE 8 wks out precontest...I get it... ::) ;D ::)
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The majority of the athletes are using anyways.
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Yes but the Majority of sports orgs Do Drug testing.IFBB = NO FUKIN DRUG TESTS.
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Olympics = A cultural diverse appeal
Pro Bodybuilding = A homo diverse appeal
Bottom line, Pro Bodybuilding will remain in the cultural-sewer where it belongs.
No body in their right mind could ever take this drug-fuelled-passtime seriously.
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Yes but the Majority of sports orgs Do Drug testing.IFBB = NO FUKIN DRUG TESTS.
and their drug tests are ineffective.
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I would venture a guess that bodybuilding will remain excluded from the Olympics because the competition involves no exhibition of physical prowess. At least the women's fitness competition is judged by the feats of athleticism.
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Yes but the Majority of sports orgs Do Drug testing.IFBB = NO FUKIN DRUG TESTS.
Bob Chick and the IFBB own your mind.
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So you're saying that not being a sport has nothing to do with its exclusion from the Games?
Those fagets award medals for Ice carving.
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This subject has been beaten to death...
There is one reason, and one reason only that BB never made it into the Olympics:
There is no athletic move to be judged as a completed movement. There is no set criteria, and no required elements.
End of story.
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BB'ing won't make it to the olympics because it's NOT a sport... it's a male beauty pageant... all other olympic events are sport competitions.
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Olympics = A cultural diverse appeal
Pro Bodybuilding = A homo diverse appeal
Bottom line, Pro Bodybuilding will remain in the cultural-sewer where it belongs.
No body in their right mind could ever take this drug-fuelled-passtime seriously.
I don't think this has nothing to do with your sexual preference....
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BB'ing won't make it to the olympics because it's NOT a sport... it's a male beauty pageant... all other olympic events are sport competitions.
You wouldn't understand until you actually pick up a weight.
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This subject has been beaten to death...
There is one reason, and one reason only that BB never made it into the Olympics:
There is no athletic move to be judged as a completed movement. There is no set criteria, and no required elements.
End of story.
That is the main reason, but definitely not the ONLY.
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Chick take that story to Joe W as he has always dreamt of BB in the Olympics after all that's why they the IFBB have their Drug Rule.REMEMBER.
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That is the main reason, but definitely not the ONLY.
No...that's it.
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Chick take that story to Joe W as he has always dreamt of BB in the Olympics after all that's why they the IFBB have their Drug Rule.REMEMBER.
Ben and Jow did al they could to make BB an Olympic sport, the rules were made to mirroe those of the Olympics to make it more attractive to the IOC...and the end of the day...it came down to the very reasons I outlined.
This in no way takes away from the monumantal effort put forth by Ben, for many many years...
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Olympics = A cultural diverse appeal
Pro Bodybuilding = A homo diverse appeal
Bottom line, Pro Bodybuilding will remain in the cultural-sewer where it belongs.
No body in their right mind could ever take this drug-fuelled-passtime Sean Rey seriously.
Fixed.
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Re: The reason Bodybuilding will never be in the Olympics...
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Quote from: Meltdown on Today at 06:45:45 PM
Chick take that story to Joe W as he has always dreamt of BB in the Olympics after all that's why they the IFBB have their Drug Rule.REMEMBER.
Ben and Jow did al they could to make BB an Olympic sport, the rules were made to mirroe those of the Olympics to make it more attractive to the IOC...and the end of the day...it came down to the very reasons I outlined.
Well that was a waste of years.They should have just asked Hank Wood.
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2004 Athens Olympics Baseball results
Gold - Cuba
Silver - Australia
Bronze - Japan
2006 World Baseball Classic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_World_Baseball_Classic)
1. Japan
2. Cuba
3. Korea
college players are the only ones on team USA. the world baseball classic was before spring training. nobody played, nor were the ones there even in shape to play. while cuba was nearing the end of their season.
their are almost no good baseball players outside of the US, because if they were, this is were they would be.
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Most athletes in the Olympics are probably using anyway. They just don't get caught. Maybe I'm being cynical though ???
Bingo.
The Olympics features some of the BIGGEST drug abusers.....it's just about passing the test.....
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Drug free sports are boring.
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Drug free sports are boring.
There is no such thing as a drug free sport.
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Good thing, too. If officials start enforcing drug rules in every sport, people might figure out that all records since the 1960s have been set thanks to chemical enhancement.
There is no such thing as a drug free sport.
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i dont see why people care so much who takes drugs in sports...honestly is it affecting their way of life???...clearly its jealousy in their behalf ::)
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I feel the same way about Drink Driving and Bashing people why have so many Rules about Drugs or anything for that matter. ::)
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Not many sports are in the Olympics...
In fact, baseball and softball were both voted out of the Olympics, so they will be there for 2008 Beiging, but not for 2012 London.
The sport before that which was elminated out of the Olympics in 1930 was Polo.
There actually 28 sports with over 300 events. And the obvious reason why BB is not in the Olympics is because BB is drug (steroid) driven. Without the steroids BB is REALLY just a body contest (like a beauty paegent). With the drugs size and definition are pronounced. No other sport or activity relies on the use of steroids as much as BB.
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Ben and Jow did al they could to make BB an Olympic sport, the rules were made to mirroe those of the Olympics to make it more attractive to the IOC...and the end of the day...it came down to the very reasons I outlined.
This in no way takes away from the monumantal effort put forth by Ben, for many many years...
This subject has been beaten to death...
There is one reason, and one reason only that BB never made it into the Olympics:
There is no athletic move to be judged as a completed movement. There is no set criteria, and no required elements.
End of story.
Funny you guys should mention this. You may remember that it was about 10 years ago, that Ben Weider actually got Olympic recognition for bodybuilding. I remember seeing it on the cover of MuscleMag International (I think Frank Sepe was on that one, in a B&W shot).
The way it was supposed to work (I think) is that, first, bodybuilding gets Olympic recognition. Then a panel votes to see if it'll hold a bodybuilding event as a demonstration game. Then they vote a second time. If the IOC gave it the thumbs-up, bodybuilding becomes an Olympic sport.
From what I remember, Ben Weider was a good friend of the IOC president at that time. When that guy retired, his replacement gave bodybuilding the axe, citing the whole steroid thing as rationale (I guess he forgot about the '92 controversy with those Chinese lady swimmers).
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There actually 28 sports with over 300 events. And the obvious reason why BB is not in the Olympics is because BB is drug (steroid) driven. Without the steroids BB is REALLY just a body contest (like a beauty paegent). With the drugs size and definition are pronounced. No other sport or activity relies on the use of steroids as much as BB.
Nothing to do with it, Keith...so is Olympic lifting. But with OL, either the guy lifts the weight, or he doesn't...there is little chance for opinion to enter the equasion...
And...if BB were in the OLympics...they would be subjected to the same drug tests and IOC procedures as any other sport. The fact they would be natural, most likely less freaky and smaller...is completely irrelevant.
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Actually, when bodybuilding first began, it was an athletic event in conjunction with displaying muscles. Guys were acrobatic & performed feats of strength like over head presses or hand stands.
I remember a few years back it was discussed as maybe this should be brought back as part of the norm. Well, it didn't happen as could you imagine Ronnie doing a handstand....or even wanting to see that?
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Chick,
Come on man...you honestly don't feel that money has nothing to do with it?
I think it has everything to do with money and the fact that how much is made in the BB industry by having freaks. I mean, just look at who buys magazines, buys every supplement there is (like the world is ending tomorrow) and goes to every show he can afford. Look...you'll find so many small guys buying every magazine on the rack (MONEY). You'll see countless pencil necks in supplement stores as a bi-product of the magazine they bought thinking that if they buy NoExplode they really can look like Ronnie but they fail to believe drugs are a huge % of his gains (again, more MONEY in the industry). And lastly go to to the "O" freak show and look around...unless you are blind you'll see that the expo is filled with dreamers trying to be a Chick, or a Ronnie or a Ruhl...Again, MONEY in the show. Plus sales down the line via expo marketing...ALL MONEY! Nothing to do with anything else! Take the drugs out and test guys, nobody will want to look like Levrone looks right now, nobody will want to look like TP, nobody will want to look at skinny natural guys...And guess what? You got it! NO MONEY!!! So tell me how that has nothing to do with it please...Ben and Joe could give a rats ass about the Olympics and BB. Quite frankly I couldn't either...I was just trying to make a point that its all about MONEY...No drugs, no freaks, no dreamers, no jobs, no money...no Olympics... ;)
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No way will anyone in thier right mind who makes money on bodybuilding will ever try to make it an olympic sport. Just look at the USADA list of how many people were tested. It's easy to tell their interests...If BB goes to the Olympics guess what? Testing...and ummm...I can't imagine how that would turn out!!! ::)
http://www.usantidoping.org/files/active/resources/press_releases/Final%202007%20Testing%20Numbers.pdf
its also subjectibve. 5 diff guys might pick 5 diff winners. whereas in 100m etc which is performance based whoever crosses the line first of throws furthest etc will win.
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You wouldn't understand until you actually pick up a weight.
Picked up a weight ??! lol.. my pics have been up here before, I bet I smoke your '140lb.' swimmers physique all day long.
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it will be one day.
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The efforts made by Ben Weider to gain Olympic recognition during the 80s actually became quite pathetic and embarrassing. Bribes to Samaranch and the like. Weider was seriously deluded if he ever thought bodybuilding would be accepted.
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Why isn't powerlifting an olympic sport? Far more interesting tha olympic lifting...
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There is one reason, and one reason only that BB never made it into the Olympics:
There is no athletic move to be judged as a completed movement. There is no set criteria, and no required elements.
End of story.
Why can't you guys understand that simple reality?
What Chick is trying to tell you is that there's no base element from which to even begin a conversation, so all the other stuff you're talking about is extraneous fluff.
Hope this helps.
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Jesus Christ, who cares about bodybuilding and the olympics.
Bodybuilding has and will remain a homo erotic event...period.
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2004 Athens Olympics Baseball results
Gold - Cuba
Silver - Australia
Bronze - Japan
2006 World Baseball Classic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_World_Baseball_Classic)
1. Japan
2. Cuba
3. Korea
Wow. I never expected that. Genuine eye-opener for me
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LOL @ homoerotic!
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Jesus Christ, who cares about bodybuilding and the olympics.
Bodybuilding has and will remain a homo erotic event...period.
Ahahahahahaha....I just heard the 2009 "o" will be in San Francisco on gay pride day!!! LMAO!!!
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Olympic sports have huge contracts with sponsors etc. They have a lot more to lose. They use tons of shit, but they are covered.
With the amount of money they have they can easily afford a world class doctor who can help passing drug tests.
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Why isn't powerlifting an olympic sport? Far more interesting tha olympic lifting...
There are too many drugs in the sport, sure other Olympic sports are just as drug addled, but they were already Olympic events with long histories. There is also a built in audience and lots of money behind them. It will take a lot for them(IOC) to consider adding another small event with a huge drug stigma attached to it.
The sport is also too fragmented, dozens of federations. They would need to consolidate into one or a couple of big federations to make a real push for acceptance.
They also need to get their stuff together as far as rules for the lifts, equipment, .... There's tons of infighting among the federations about this topic already. They need to get that worked out first.
:).
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Track and field(the premier event) is just as dirty as bodybuilding when it comes to drugs. THG, the whole Jones scandal...
ring a bell? I say if it's OK for them then let BB in. The crowds won't be big but neither are the badminton or skeet shooting crowds. :)