Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing

[Humble Narcissist]

That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome

Most states they are as well.

[Primemuscle]

Prime can have them come stay with his family
they'll be safe, honest

Actually, I'm out of room. They can sleep in the backyard or set up a tent in the neighborhood green-space. 

[Primemuscle]

Affordable housing development in Seattle...

This is very much like the affordable housing you see all over Portland these days. The city used to have the police roust people out of theses encampments. That is apparently not happening anymore. Portland is starting to look like a third world country.

[Primemuscle]

Problem is government regulations when they get an inspector on the property. Zoning laws, strict rules and fines, "safety" compliance code standards that can be confusing and expensive to follow. Building one's own home is the heart and soul of America, going back to the Homestead Act and before. Very hard to do now, unless you are in an out of the way, rural area. Fantastic idea to solve affordable housing though. After WW2, returning Vets used to pick out a home plan to build their own house from Sears. Rarely done now.

Sears retired their "big book" catalog in 1993.

This is a Sears catalog kit home, The Magnolia. It cost $5,140. to build. The house still exists today but if you want to buy it, it cost over $1,000,000.





The "good old days" are long gone.

[Primemuscle]

Would love to see how shitty a house is for a grand, can barely dig shutter and pour a half decent size slab for a grand, never mind build owt on the fucker

Marty is a dreamer. A gallon of quality paint is nearly $50 - $70 from Sherman Williams or Benjamin Moore paint companies.

[funk51]

perfect house for the average get bigger. smaller house for your servants, all you need is an electrified fence to keep out the peons.

[Dave D]

That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome

There are many reasons CA is messed up but tiny houses arent the issue, taking care of the mentally ill is the biggest issue. LA county has more people living in it that 45 states, that includes NC.

While I agree the tiny house would seem like a better option than tent cities, they actually create more issues. What needs to be done is converting old warehouses, or mental facilities into homeless shelters. But property is valuable in LA, so until someone figures out how to make a profit from the homeless, the problem wont change.

[Humble Narcissist]

There are many reasons CA is messed up but tiny houses arent the issue, taking care of the mentally ill is the biggest issue. LA county has more people living in it that 45 states, that includes NC.

While I agree the tiny house would seem like a better option than tent cities, they actually create more issues. What needs to be done is converting old warehouses, or mental facilities into homeless shelters. But property is valuable in LA, so until someone figures out how to make a profit from the homeless, the problem wont change.

Yep, lots of empty warehouses, former factories, hospitals, etc, not serving any purpose right now that could be made useful.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

There are many reasons CA is messed up but tiny houses arent the issue, taking care of the mentally ill is the biggest issue. LA county has more people living in it that 45 states, that includes NC.

While I agree the tiny house would seem like a better option than tent cities, they actually create more issues. What needs to be done is converting old warehouses, or mental facilities into homeless shelters. But property is valuable in LA, so until someone figures out how to make a profit from the homeless, the problem wont change.

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

[SF1900]

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Vince, let’s build a tiny house and live in it together.

[Walter Sobchak]

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Let me get this straight chocolatehomo.

You approve of tar paper windows, but disapprove of California?

Holy fuck TBombz and Primehomosexual really do have competition for board idiot status.

[Henda]

Had to look up tar paper never realised It was roofing felt people actually make windows out it in this day and age?

[Walter Sobchak]

Had to look up tar paper never realised It was roofing felt people actually make windows out it in this day and age?

Only “people” who think they can build a house for $1,000 using windows from a junkyard.

Or what we in America call....retards.

[Primemuscle]

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Have you been to California?

Pebble Beach, CA

[Dave D]

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Meh.

You're a former pro wrestler, entrepreneur, gay, minority living in the South, you'd think you would like California.

[funk51]

Yep, lots of empty warehouses, former factories, hospitals, etc, not serving any purpose right now that could be made useful.

   they would rather see people freeze than keep open a facility like ASH which is scheduled to be ripped down.  it was seen in the movie glass.                 

[Walter Sobchak]

   they would rather see people freeze than keep open a facility like ASH which is scheduled to be ripped down.  it was seen in the movie glass.                 

And who would pay to “keep it open?”

[SOMEPARTS]

And who would pay to “keep it open?”

The taxpayer....that is right after the mayor's brother's new company does asbestos abatement and they both become millionaires. It's how the world works folks.

[Walter Sobchak]

The taxpayer....that is right after the mayor's brother's new company does asbestos abatement and they both become millionaires. It's how the world works folks.

So the hard working farmers in Nebraska would be forced to pay for a food, clothing, and shelter issue in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco?

[funk51]

And who would pay to “keep it open?”

                  i guess you would rather see us do this with the homeless.   

&t=13s

[Walter Sobchak]

                  i guess you would rather see us do this with the homeless.   

&t=13s

Typical liberal, ready to implement their fairy tale ideas using other people’s money.

[Dave D]

So the hard working farmers in Nebraska would be forced to pay for a food, clothing, and shelter issue in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco?

Walt do you think Nebraska farmers pay enough tax to help out the homeless on the west coast?

Taxpayers are paying for the homeless as is, we should at least use the money in a responsible manner. If the government can figure out a way to subsidize housing projects and EBT cards that can be used to buy McDonald’s, they  should be able to figure out a way to house the homeless.

[Walter Sobchak]

Walt do you think Nebraska farmers pay enough tax to help out the homeless on the west coast?

Taxpayers are paying for the homeless as is, we should at least use the money in a responsible manner. If the government can figure out a way to subsidize housing projects and EBT cards that can be used to buy McDonald’s, they  should be able to figure out a way to house the homeless.

First off....let’s separate the people who are homeless because of REAL mental illness from the people who are homeless because of drugs, laziness, or bad personal choices.

If you moved from Ohio to Seattle because you “dug the music scene”, have no education or skills, and can’t figure out why you can’t afford to live downtown when you only work 20 hours a week for $12/hr., then I don’t care if you live in a fucking tent at Chernobyl.

But I don’t believe that the federal government or any other state should indiscriminately or disproportionately bail out California for the mess they are in, or the third world meltdown they are headed towards. So no, I don’t think Governor Fuck-Up Newsom should be reaching into the pocket of Nebraska farmers, no more than rich people from Silicon Valley should be paying for 7 generations of family members on welfare in Chicago.

[Marty Champions]

That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome

agreed , our gov wants us to live in shit we cant afford and denies us a reasonable alternative. The really want us to work hard and have a difficult time

[Dave D]

First off....let’s separate the people who are homeless because of REAL mental illness from the people who are homeless because of drugs, laziness, or bad personal choices.

If you moved from Ohio to Seattle because you “dug the music scene”, have no education or skills, and can’t figure out why you can’t afford to live downtown when you only work 20 hours a week for $12/hr., then I don’t care if you live in a fucking tent at Chernobyl.

But I don’t believe that the federal government or any other state should indiscriminately or disproportionately bail out California for the mess they are in, or the third world meltdown they are headed towards. So no, I don’t think Governor Fuck-Up Newsom should be reaching into the pocket of Nebraska farmers, no more than rich people from Silicon Valley should be paying for 7 generations of family members on welfare in Chicago.

I cant argue with this.

There should be some sort of "work/job/skills" for those on long term government assistance. As in they work general labor/maintenance for road crews, bridge improvements  for 40 hours a week at $10 an hour (or whatever is fair based on the assistance they recieve) until they fond permanent work.