Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting

[Jack T. Cross]

here you go boss...

second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility.

so what are you basing your assumption on that zimmerman assaulted trayvon?

Please source it, Tony.

[tonymctones]

If a person creates a dangerous situation that shows a lack of proper regard for life, and someone dies in the process, the person that created the situation may be charged with Murder, in Florida.

Would you go so far as to deny that?

Not quite...

here you go boss...

second degree murder n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility.

so what are you basing your assumption on that zimmerman assaulted trayvon?

[tonymctones]

Please source it, Tony.

for fucks sake, youre the tard who told me to look it up for myself

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/second+degree+murder

[Jack T. Cross]

Tony, we're talking about Florida.

Here is the exact wording:

"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree..."

[tonymctones]

Tony, we're talking about Florida.

Here is the exact wording:

"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree..."

and Ive asked you this before, what do you have to believe that the killing was unlawful?

where did zimmerman show a mindless regard for human life?

LOL you shouldnt have posted this it makes you look like an even bigger retard than you already did!!!

Going off zimmermans story trayvon attacked him, he killed in self defense...THAT IS LAWFUL!!!!!

[Jack T. Cross]

and Ive asked you this before, what do you have to believe that the killing was unlawful?

where did zimmerman show a mindless regard for human life?

LOL you shouldnt have posted this it makes you look like an even bigger retard than you already did!!!

Going off zimmermans story trayvon attacked him, he killed in self defense...THAT IS LAWFUL!!!!!

Do you mean a disregard for human life?

[240 is Back]

Juries don't always follow the law.  ZImmerman might have "technically" not broken any law - cause the law is so vague that one can claim they feared an 80 year old woman in an alley and had to cap her.

The law is so vague that often juries will just make up their own justice. 

[Jack T. Cross]

Juries don't always follow the law.  ZImmerman might have "technically" not broken any law - cause the law is so vague that one can claim they feared an 80 year old woman in an alley and had to cap her.

The law is so vague that often juries will just make up their own justice. 

If a jury decides that Martin died while rightfully trying to save himself, then Zimmerman's act of directing himself toward Martin is combined with the death - making that combination the offense.

[The Enigma]

Quite the choir boy.

George Zimmerman's Lawyer Wants Jurors To See Photos Of Handgun, Pot Plants Found On Trayvon Martin's Cell Phone
 


In a bid to muddy up Trayvon Martin in advance of trial, a lawyer for George Zimmerman has released photos of a handgun and marijuana plants that were found on the late teenager’s cell phone.

In a court filing today, attorney Mark O’Mara listed documents and images he “intends to introduce into evidence” during the criminal case against Zimmerman, who has been charged with murdering Martin. The 17-year-old was shot to death in February 2012 by Zimmerman (who claims that he fired in self-defense while being attacked by the unarmed teenager).

Included in the photos that O’Mara says he wants jurors to see are two images extracted from Martin’s Huawei phone showing a Smith & Wesson handgun and clip. In one photo (seen above) the weapon appears to be held by the person who snapped the photo. The second photo shows the gun and clip atop what appears to be a soiled mattress.

Two other photos from Martin’s phone show potted marijuana plants.

O’Mara has also notified Florida prosecutors that he will try to introduce text messages from Martin’s phone. Those messages include exchanges dealing with Martin’s suspension from school for fighting and his mother’s decision that he needed to move in with his father (from whom she was divorced). “My mom just told me i gotta mov wit my dad,” read one November 2011 message that was followed up with a text noting, “She just kickd me out : (.”

Other texts on Martin’s phone appear to refer to his use of marijuana and the offer of a gun.

Days before Martin was killed, his father sent a text with advice about how his son should behave and show respect. “Show them that you a good kid and you want positive things around you. Be a big brother and not a DONKEY …… LOVE DAD.”

O’Mara also wants to introduce several photos of Martin, including one image (seen below) showing him giving two middle fingers to the camera.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Trayvon-Martin-evidence-photos-679832

The police instructed Zimmerman NOT to pursue Martin.

If Zimmerman listened to law enforcement Martin would be alive.

End of story.

[Soul Crusher]

The police instructed Zimmerman NOT to pursue Martin.

If Zimmerman listened to law enforcement Martin would be alive.

End of story.

http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate


 

[Dos Equis]

The police instructed Zimmerman NOT to pursue Martin.

If Zimmerman listened to law enforcement Martin would be alive.

End of story.

You must have been reading Lurker's comments in this thread.  No, the police did not instruct Zimmerman to do anything.  A 911 operator told him he didn't to follow Martin and Zimmerman responded "ok."  A 911 operator is not "the police."   

If Martin hadn't beaten the crap out of Zimmerman, he would still be alive.

[Dos Equis]

Lynch mob.

Chris Rock: ‘George Zimmerman Can Eat a D—k!’
By Noel Sheppard | June 14, 2013

As most Americans are painfully aware, the liberal media have already convicted George Zimmerman for killing Trayvon Martin even though the actual trial beyond the jury selection phase hasn’t yet begun.

Count Chris Rock amongst them, for on the FX program that he is the executive producer of – Totally Biased starring W. Kamau Bell – Rock actually said, “George Zimmerman can eat a d—k!” (video follows with transcript and commentary):

W. KAMAU BELL: George Zimmerman, you are a profiling, vigilante, racist, right-wing, trigger-happy, child-killing coward. I want to rip off your nuts, shove them down your throat, pull them back out your ass, toss them like dice, roll a hard six, pick them back up, put them in a blender, make a nut smoothie, drink it all down, feel refreshed, piss it back out, take off your shirt, wipe it up, wash your shirt on high –oh, it’s gonna shrink – put the shirt on a dog, call that dog a cat, laugh at your cat-dog, drop you both off at a Crip cook-out in Compton!

This was greeted with cheers and applause from the studio audience, after which the shot cut to Rock sitting in the production booth with a box of popcorn laughing his head off.

“This guy is good,” Rock said. “We should give him a nightly show this fall.”

Rock then turn to the camera and continued, “Oh yeah – George Zimmerman can eat a dick!”

This was once again met with cheers and applause from the studio audience.

Is this how justice works in America now?

Members of the media decide who’s guilty and innocent before a jury even hears all the evidence?

How thoroughly disgraceful.

Don't these folks realize that their actions could lead to riots all around America if Zimmerman is found innocent?

Exactly when did the judicial system in our country get thrown out and replaced by media members with an agenda?

Rock, FX, Fox, and News Corporation should all be ashamed of themselves.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/14/chris-rock-george-zimmerman-can-eat-d-k

[The Enigma]

You must have been reading Lurker's comments in this thread.  No, the police did not instruct Zimmerman to do anything.  A 911 operator told him he didn't to follow Martin and Zimmerman responded "ok."  A 911 operator is not "the police."   

If Martin hadn't beaten the crap out of Zimmerman, he would still be alive.

If Zimmerman had followed the ORDERS given to him by 911, Getbiggers would not be subjected to your retarded unintelligent posts regarding this case

Conclusion: 37,000 posts & you're still a fu&king moron

[tu_holmes]

It's a complex situation... Trayvon certainly hadn't committed a crime either... At least not before he felt he was being followed and decided to meet the situation head on.

I've often said that while 911 is not "the police", they are given guidelines to give to citizens that are to mitigate risk and danger. Sure, they aren't cops, but they are empowered by police forces to give what they (the force) believe to be the correct actions while on the phone.

There is a lot of blame to go around to be fair... Martin for attacking Zimmerman (If that's indeed how it went down) and Zimmerman for actually following with intent confront Martin.

I do not see murder as an accurate charge of course... Manslaughter perhaps... Murder is a huge over reach and he will be found not guilty.

[LurkerNoMore]

If Zimmerman had followed the ORDERS given to him by 911, Getbiggers would not be subjected to your retarded unintelligent posts regarding this case

Conclusion: 37,000 posts & you're still a fu&king moron

Don't forget the illogical conclusion and evidence that Trayvon broke drug laws THAT DAY as evident by the trace amounts of pot found in his system.

Talk about a lynch mob... some on here just want Zimm to found innocent for no other reason than to justify their own biased viewpoint.

[blacken700]

don't forget the one when he could tell trayvon smoked that day by lookin at a picture  lynch mob

[Soul Crusher]

don't forget the one when he could tell trayvon smoked that day by lookin at a picture  lynch mob

"If I pass a turd in the morning - it would look like Trayvon"

[Dos Equis]

If Zimmerman had followed the ORDERS given to him by 911, Getbiggers would not be subjected to your retarded unintelligent posts regarding this case

Conclusion: 37,000 posts & you're still a fu&king moron

He did follow the order given to him by the 911 operator, according to the 911 transcript. 

[Dos Equis]

"If I pass a turd in the morning - it would look like Trayvon"

That's just wrong, but it did make me lol. 

[tonymctones]

Do you mean a disregard for human life?

Im sorry tard, where did zimmerman act "evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life"?

and please no "ifs"

[tonymctones]

Juries don't always follow the law.  ZImmerman might have "technically" not broken any law - cause the law is so vague that one can claim they feared an 80 year old woman in an alley and had to cap her.

The law is so vague that often juries will just make up their own justice. 

I dont think there is anything vague about having someone on top of you beating you, bashing your head into the concrete and reaching for your gun.....

yea thats real vague.....

[tonymctones]

If Zimmerman had followed the ORDERS given to him by 911, Getbiggers would not be subjected to your retarded unintelligent posts regarding this case

Conclusion: 37,000 posts & you're still a fu&king moron

what makes you think he disobeyed these orders enigma?

[tonymctones]

It's a complex situation... Trayvon certainly hadn't committed a crime either... At least not before he felt he was being followed and decided to meet the situation head on.

I've often said that while 911 is not "the police", they are given guidelines to give to citizens that are to mitigate risk and danger. Sure, they aren't cops, but they are empowered by police forces to give what they (the force) believe to be the correct actions while on the phone.

There is a lot of blame to go around to be fair... Martin for attacking Zimmerman (If that's indeed how it went down) and Zimmerman for actually following with intent confront Martin.

I do not see murder as an accurate charge of course... Manslaughter perhaps... Murder is a huge over reach and he will be found not guilty.

agreed on most, there is no evidence to show tha tmartin was following trayvon with the intent to confront him.

Also there is no evidence to show that martin continued to follow him after being told not to...

[George Whorewell]

The pro Ashtray crowd on the board seems to be suggesting that by virtue of questioning Martin and walking next to him, Zimmerman deserved to get his ass kicked. After all, Martin was not doing anything illegal. Zimmerman had it coming.

Here is the inverse application of the same logic: Martin deserved to be shot. After all, Zimmerman was not doing anything illegal. Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself. Martin had it coming.

The point of the matter is that you can't have it both ways. If the first set of circumstances fits, so does the second.



  

[Jack T. Cross]

Im sorry tard, where did zimmerman act "evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life"?

and please no "ifs"

What do you call such selfish risk of others' lives, Tony?