Dragged my ass back to lifting. Today was chest and arms. No warm ups shown.

Flat barbell bench press 2 x 6 then 1x1 (Due to injuries I'm so week in this lift. I'm determined to get back up in weight. Maybe a foolish desire. All through my 40's and early 50's I always did my last set with something like 250lbs to 285lbs Now with a partially torn rotator cuff on one shoulder and torn labrum in the other I have limitations.  I will push in this lift till it punches me in the face ands says stop you old goat.

Barbell inclines press 2 x 6

Dumbbell decline press 2 x 8 ( I think doing three pressing motions were over kill. Felt weak with these.)

Flat flies 2x10  (I've been reading and seeing so many videos saying how bad these are for the shoulder joint. I always got a good pump and a good stretch with them. I don't know. Maybe someone can point blank convince me they are bad for you I will stop.)


Triceps pushdown with an upside down V bar 2 x12

Skull crushers with an ez bar 2 x  8 (I've done them for ages then due to elbow pain I stopped doing these for a very long time. I think for decades maybe I was doing these in a non optimal way. I brought the bar down to my forehead. On a youtube video I saw a guy lying on bench bringing the bar behind his head. I tried this method and I didn't have any elbow pain and I felt it fantastic in the triceps.  I learned something new tweaking my form with these.)

Rope push downs 2 x 8 ( I was so weak with theses I had trouble doing them and I believe it was how effectively the skull crushers were hitting the triceps.  I was shot doing these because of how effective the new form I used.)

dips 2x8 (I used no weight and I'm lucky I got 8.  Very excited about direct the tricep pump was the new method.)

Barbell curls 2 x 10. ( I was distracted and I accidently used 10lbs more than I usually do.)

Alternate dumbbell curls 2 x 8 (experimenting using a lighter weight but better from and cadence. I might be on to something.)

Dumbbell drag curls leaning against a wall 2x12

Concentration curls 2 x 12

Wrist curls 2x25
Wrist extensions 2 x 20
Ivanko gripper 2 x 20

Incline sit ups 1 x 29
Incline leg raise 1 x 17


After I went for a fast walk that lasted one hour and fifteen minutes. I threw in a couple of strides too varying from 40 yards to around 150 yards. When I finished I said to my self, you did way too much today, lol.  Feeling like I was hit with a truck. Tomorrow no lifting but hopefully a good cardio day.  I'm 171lbs. Hope to be 164lbs by my June vacation.

There was some MMA pro who tested positive for Turinabol, then after he came back after like a year, he tested positive again. I think they let the second test slide as it was possibble the earlier use was still in his system in sufficient quantities to test positive. I don't know if that actually was the case, or just that the tests are SO sensitive nowadays. But it's still true that levels drop to "effectively zero" from a drug efficiency standpoint, or else you wouldn't take them every day or even 2-3 times a day.

See this ad on the effective dosing interval compared to methyltest

Drug tests are very rarely set at zero, there are cut off points
Rec drug tests still allow a small amount of opiate because eating poppy seeds can produce a positive test for opioids

Mike can run through 23 panes of glass. He can surely run through ONE man.

Personally I feel great on orals, even very high dosages, EXCEPT for the massive heartburn that ruins everything. Injectable, if doing high dose, just make me feel bogged down and overloaded or "toxic" over time. My theory on that is that they build up in the system, whereas with orals, overnight you are at "zero" again lol.
Orals affect HDL very negatively as was said here, it has something to do with the liver. They can be done, by some, without totally tanking HDL, dependscon dose, compound etc. However, injectables can also reduce HDL drastically. And as dj said, some of it has to do with estrogen, so now many bodybuilders do little, some even no, aromatase inhibitors and are worried all their years on AIs may have done damage.

Regarding metformin turning Type 2 to Type 1, never read about that at all, but would like to if someone linked me. One possible mechanism that immediately pops into mind if the patients had very poor glucose management DESPITE the MET, that would mean they destroyed their remaining working beta cells in their pancreas. In that case it would not be the MET that is to blame. This is why some practitioners have advocated to put a bad case of Type 2 immediately on insulin to get immediate control of the glucose. If then the patient loses a lot of weight, exercises and so on, he may be able to get off the insulin. High glucose is why bodybuilders on high GH get on metformin, but some find it's not enough and add for example Lantus at night so their nighttime and morning glucose stays in range. Now taking insulin can further hurt insulin sensitivity but it's way preferable than the alternative where you actually start damaging tissues, and the pancreas itself. SO, the insulin is actually protective. If and when you stop the GH you stop the insulin as well. That said, some bodybuiilders can use A LOT of insulin without getting resistant. High doses of basal insulin are bad for sensitivity over time e.g. Lantus, I'm talking of say 100iu plus every day, many do just 10-20iu to assist the pancreas.
One can do both MET and some insulin if he is very careful.

I don't like that my replies get so long, but I can't fit a full explanation into a sentence or two 

i get worse heartburn from tren than i do any oral

i drank another half bottle of rum and like 4 beers and 2 jacks last weekend

not too wise on drol

but i don't think orals damage one as much as "they" say

but once again it all comes down to health genes

some just have better genes than others

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