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Matthew Leber spokesman for the American Patriot, Three Percent, sent Breitbart News photos of what American security contractors on the ground believe is a Muslim prayer rug found near the border in Arizona last week.
A member of the security team spoke with Breitbart News on Monday night saying they were on patrol right along the border came down into a wash and the area were working in just south of Sierra Vista in Coronado national forest.
“That area is prime crossing from Yucca Springs over to Copper Canyon. And the reason that they use that area is anything from plain old Mexicans and South Americans to cartels and anybody else is because border patrol has a high point lookout area where in the Coronado national forest, tourists can come on up,” He said.
He added, “The border patrol parks up there with a surveillance vehicle that has cameras and flares on it. The problem is with flares, you can’t see down into washes. You can see people crossing the border, but the second they get into the washes, border patrol lose them. So, when they told us that, we decided we would patrol those areas by the washes.”
The group patrolled along the border that was a patchwork of decades old rickety fencing made from train tracks and cattle enclosures. Eventually, they were 50 yards by the border and saw a break in the wash.
“That’s when I saw this thing laying around. And I was like, ‘What the hell is that?’ We walked over there and I didn’t really want to pull at it not knowing what was on it. I poked a bit at it with a stick and noticed some of the Arabic writing and was just like, ‘Oh boy.’ I snapped a couple of photos and then went on our patrol.”
The same contractor told Breitbart News last week that six Special Interest Aliens (SIA’s) from Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen were picked up by U.S. border patrol near Laredo, Texas. Each one had 60,000 Iraqi Dinars ($51.00) apiece on them.
Human Events reported in 2010 that Iranian currency and prayer rugs were regularly found near the southern border. A November 2012 House Committee on Homeland Security report from the Oversight Sub-Committee that stated:
U.S. Government officials who are directly responsible for our national security continue to affirm the vulnerability. In August 2007 former Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell stated that not only have terrorists used the Southwest border to enter the United States but that they will inevitably continue to do so as long as it is an available possibility. In a July 2012 hearing before the full U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Homeland Security, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano confirmed that terrorists have crossed the Southwest border with the intent to harm the American people. Additionally, the U.S. Border Patrol regularly apprehends aliens from the 35 “special interest countries” designated by our intelligence community as countries that could export individuals that could bring harm to our country in the way of terrorism.” From Fiscal Years 2006 to 2011, there were 1,918 apprehensions of these special interest aliens at our Southwest border.
Government sources are concerned that the rise in illegals crossing the border is coinciding with the uptick of individuals with ties to terrorism who are entering the country along the U.S. southern border.
Texas Republican governor Rick Perry has repeatedly warned that the flood of illegal immigrants over the nation’s southern border includes individuals affiliated with terrorist organizations from all over the world. In fact, the Jihadist group slamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), which is in the midst of taking over large cities in Iraq, has already threatened to confront the United States on its on soil.
Congressman Ted Poe (R-TX) told CBS’s local Dallas Fort Worth affiliate he believes that ISIS will use Texas’s southern border to enter the United States.
“Of course the way they would come to the United States would be through the porous border with Mexico. The drug cartels will bring people into the country no matter who they are — for money,” says Poe. “Everyone in the world knows that the border between the United States and Mexico is completely porous.”
Poe also said, “This jihadist group ISIS and it’s leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi have promised direct confrontation with America. He is looking forward to that day and he has said that publicly, we should believe him when he says that. These folks hate everything about the United States.”
Last week, Los Angeles Fox 11 News reporter Gigi Graciette tweeted out that sources told her, “three people on terrorist watch list were detained crossing the border illegally into CA.”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/08/Muslim-Prayer-Rug-Found-on-Arizona-Border-By-Independendent-American-Security-Contractors
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O-fag must have left it behind.
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Of course tons of Muslims are pouring in through the unsecured boarder, no doubt tons of them want us dead.
What a surprise
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There are towns on the Guatemalan boarder that look like any town in Iraq. I've seen them....its friggen scary. Not a lot of Spanish but plenty of Arabic being spoken,.
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Wow...a fucking rug. Call the National Guard!!!! ::)
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Wow...a fucking rug. Call the National Guard!!!! ::)
Vince to the rescue of Obama and like him showing his true hatred for America.
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We need closed borders.
That being said.... If there are terrorists in here, they can very easily commit mass murder, shut down air traffic for a few days etc. But since 2001 nothing has happened. Thank Bush for that for the most part in his leadership after 9/11.
I don't think this rug is that big a deal.
Unless you are so inbred and retarded that you think every Muslim is a terrorist. Then you would be as stupid as a birther which is hard to be.
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Vince is a fucking retard so there's that.....I think alot of bad folks get through the border. If we ever go to war with Iran I suspect we'll find out.
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So some security contractors found evidence of something that coincidentally could warrant getting them paid for some work?
Sounds convincing to me. ::)
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What about the ranchers who have..in the past...found copies of the Koran written in Arabic on their property?
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What about the ranchers who have..in the past...found copies of the Koran written in Arabic on their property?
Never heard about that.
Could be due to a neo-con war hawk covert operation.
They'll probably start littering Iran's borders with french fries and old Starbuck's cups next.
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There are towns on the Guatemalan boarder that look like any town in Iraq. I've seen them....its friggen scary. Not a lot of Spanish but plenty of Arabic being spoken,.
They speak Arabic on the Guatamalan border ???
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And the reason that they use that area is anything from plain old Mexicans"
LOL @ the wording of this dude. Immature.
however, if there's a concern, maybe people should vote for a person in 2016 that will close the border and keep illegals out. Someone like ted cruz. Anyone who supports "letting the illegals stay", well, you're supporting millions of people come across the border with zero background check. YOU are the problem if you support a pro-amnesty candidate. You cannot ever complain again about stuff like this, if you support a RINO or LIB in 2016. You either support an anti-amnesty candidate, or you support letting them in. No middle ground.
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Yep it's a fact.... If you are a Muslim you are a terrorist!
Retards.
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Yep it's a fact.... If you are a Muslim you are a terrorist!
Retards.
Better safe than sorry though.
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Vince to the rescue of Obama and like him showing his true hatred for America.
Last time I checked you never served your country.....if you want to act crazy over some fucking rug being found in the desert, that's your business. I and every other normal person out there would care less
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Last time I checked you never served your country.....if you want to act crazy over some fucking rug being found in the desert, that's your business. I and every other normal person out there would care less
Rambo speaks!
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Last time I checked you never served your country.....if you want to act crazy over some fucking rug being found in the desert, that's your business. I and every other normal person out there would care less
Liberals aren't normal Vince. Which country did you serve?
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Better safe than sorry though.
Very much agree. That's why we need closed borders.
But to assume all Muslims are terrorists is retarded.
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Liberals aren't normal Vince. Which country did you serve?
Vince did KP duty for a year going to war w the pots and pans and got rolled on a medical after a few months.
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Liberals aren't normal Vince. Which country did you serve?
actually, they're 51% of the population of the USA, at least.
By definition, they're the majority and thus the definition of "normal" at this time.
Sucks, but it's the truth.
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actually, they're 51% of the population of the USA, at least.
By definition, they're the majority and thus the definition of "normal" at this time.
Sucks, but it's the truth.
Bullshit, if they were "normal" and had commonsense we wouldn't be fucked like we are now. All you have to do is look at some of the stupid shit the left post on this board. Here you are making excuses for them.
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Nah, 240 is right. This country has been shifting left since FDR.
When a turd like OB can get elected twice.....
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Nah, 240 is right. This country has been shifting left since FDR.
When a turd like OB can get elected twice.....
Not saying he's wrong. Just saying its why the country is fucked.
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At this point it probably WILL take a terrorist bombing in the US-done by a mussie who walked across the border- to wake the democrats up and get them to actually secure the fucking border.
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Bullshit, if they were "normal" and had commonsense we wouldn't be fucked like we are now. All you have to do is look at some of the stupid shit the left post on this board. Here you are making excuses for them.
???? WTF? In Iran, it's "normal" to do a whole lotta shit.
you're somehow confusing right/wrong with normal with what the majority of a nation wants.
In 1600, it was "normal" to burn witches at stakes. in 1800, it was "normal" to own slaves.
I'm not making excuses for these outrageous things, nor lib policies of today. I'm saying that in 2014, yes, sorry dude, but liberal policy IS NORMAL in the USA. When you have Rick perry, GOP frontrunner, screaming because lib-ass obama isn't doing enough to provide free food and shelter for fcking illegal aliens that got a flat tire while trying to break into the USA illegally...
Well, it sucks, but it's the new normal for 2014. Everyone trying to out-lib each other. Normal and common sense don't live in the same zip code, dude.
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Not saying he's wrong. Just saying its why the country is fucked.
thanks man. I agree we are shit-fcked as a country until actual conservative principles take over again.
I'm looking at the news... the left is still the left, they're the same left we had with clinton and carter. The problem is the RIGHT. the repubs are trying to win prez election by out-libbing obama on amnesty - and it's creating a situation where actual conseravtive beliefs are abandoned all over the place.
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Not saying he's wrong. Just saying its why the country is fucked.
The whole country is fucked because we no longer have a representative democracy
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The whole country is fucked because we no longer have a representative democracy
maybe we do, actually.
maybe we have a liberal govt because we have a liberal population.
Can any of us walk into a walmart or post office or restaurant or office and say "Wow, at least 51% of the people in this room are probably conservative people with traditional values?"
Everywhere I go, it's a bunch of lazy facebook checking slackers, from offices to employees everywhere. They do as little as possible and they're all whores and I just cannot look at these folks every day and say at least half of them are conservatives.
I think conservatives are dinosaurs :( Overwhelmed by this new social media generation of instant gratification, feel-good liberalism/amnesty, and connected to whatever feels nice at the moment, not what is needed for long term stability.
Divorce rate skyrocketing as family unit collapses, as societal values decline, as social liberal policies skyrocket, as a bunch of libs and rinos take over the country - it's all connected. (this is me talking serious, not trolling as per usual). We live in a nation of people that cheat, jerk off at work, steal shit from work, expect freebies, leave scenes of accidents, don't intervene to help others in need, flirt with Plan B's, and don't care about breaking rules as long as their side wins. A complete degeneration of values - and it's no wonder out politicians are sending cawk shots and posting shirtless selfies from congressional gym - they're representative of a society that is declining in a major way.
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maybe we do, actually.
maybe we have a liberal govt because we have a liberal population.
Can any of us walk into a walmart or post office or restaurant or office and say "Wow, at least 51% of the people in this room are probably conservative people with traditional values?"
Everywhere I go, it's a bunch of lazy facebook checking slackers, from offices to employees everywhere. They do as little as possible and they're all whores and I just cannot look at these folks every day and say at least half of them are conservatives.
I think conservatives are dinosaurs :( Overwhelmed by this new social media generation of instant gratification, feel-good liberalism/amnesty, and connected to whatever feels nice at the moment, not what is needed for long term stability.
Divorce rate skyrocketing as family unit collapses, as societal values decline, as social liberal policies skyrocket, as a bunch of libs and rinos take over the country - it's all connected. (this is me talking serious, not trolling as per usual). We live in a nation of people that cheat, jerk off at work, steal shit from work, expect freebies, leave scenes of accidents, don't intervene to help others in need, flirt with Plan B's, and don't care about breaking rules as long as their side wins. A complete degeneration of values - and it's no wonder out politicians are sending cawk shots and posting shirtless selfies from congressional gym - they're representative of a society that is declining in a major way.
do you believe the house and senate do the bidding of the people of this country?
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do you believe the house and senate do the bidding of the people of this country?
I believe they are the same kind of people that americans are.
I believe that as the average american becomes shadier, sluttier, weaker, slower, lazier - so do their leaders.
Now, I don't think our elected officials have EVER done the bidding of the people. They cowtoe to just enough social policy to keep their base donors/voters happy enough to elect them - and they scream the loudest about these WEDGE issues - but in terms of starting wars, spending trillions, etc - They do what they're told by the party leaders, who are told by the smarter groups, think tanks, lobbyists, whoever, that really analyze policy and long-term raminifcations. Yes, that opens up corruption, but it also keeps this train on tracks.
See, I don't think joe sixpack can truly understand long term global economic ramifications of policies, like a team of MBAs at some policy center in DC. So essentially, the think tank tells Boehnner, who tells local reps, how to vote, and they do. That's how it is, how it has always been, and I don't have a major problem with that, since the majority of country just isn't that educated.
Seriously, what does your next door neighbor know about european oil sales? Zilch. but there are buildings full of people in DC or whatever, following trends and issues, making the right calls on how to keep the US gas at $3.50 while they're paying $9 a gallon in Paris lol.
SO no, I think they do what is in the best interest of 305 million americans as a macro, but the "influence" we have is limited to little wedge shit and locality stuff that doesn't affect national policy, and it's probably best that way. My next door neighbor is a stone cold racist who would probably carpet bomb Iran just as fast as he'd choose Pabst over Budweiser - I don't really want him having much say over middle east military policy lol.
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Clearly an illegal mexican muslim dropped his prayer run on the way by. Everyone should run to the hills! Terrorism!
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Last time I checked you never served your country.....if you want to act crazy over some fucking rug being found in the desert, that's your business. I and every other normal person out there would care less
Well Vince.....my org takes that shit very seriously as we know that the border towns in several latin American countries are hotbeds for Hamas and other groups working with Iranian revolutionary guards units. So yeah it's another example of that assbag u voted for...fucking over the country.
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The whole country is fucked because we no longer have a representative democracy
Agree
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Well Vince.....my org takes that shit very seriously as we know that the border towns in several latin American countries are hotbeds for Hamas and other groups working with Iranian revolutionary guards units. So yeah it's another example of that assbag u voted for...fucking over the country.
Based on what??? A prayer rug?? That's jumping to a wild conclusion. If there was a Taliban training tape found...that's different. But its a damn rug.
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Bullshit, if they were "normal" and had commonsense we wouldn't be fucked like we are now. All you have to do is look at some of the stupid shit the left post on this board. Here you are making excuses for them.
Why the pessimism, Coach? Have you traveled internationally much?
Because I don't think we're "fucked". Not when compared to what folks in some other countries have to put up with.
BTW, I served 4 years active duty in the US Army as a 98G Russian. Were you ever in the service?
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Why the pessimism, Coach? Have you traveled internationally much?
Because I don't think we're "fucked". Not when compared to what folks in some other countries have to put up with.
BTW, I served 4 years active duty in the US Army as a 98G Russian. Were you ever in the service?
We're not "some other country" so who really cares? Why should we be forced to bring our standards down to other countries? This is exactly what Obama is doing. Seriously have to trolling.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/11/conservatives-freak-out-after-mistaking-soccer-jersey-for-muslim-prayer-rug-left-at-border/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/11/conservatives-freak-out-after-mistaking-soccer-jersey-for-muslim-prayer-rug-left-at-border/)
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/11/conservatives-freak-out-after-mistaking-soccer-jersey-for-muslim-prayer-rug-left-at-border/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/11/conservatives-freak-out-after-mistaking-soccer-jersey-for-muslim-prayer-rug-left-at-border/)
Just did a quick search of your findings. This site and one other left rag seem to be the only other sources of your story. More spin to cover Obama and the terrorists?
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Just did a quick search of your findings. This site and one other left rag seem to be the only other sources of your story. More spin to cover Obama and the terrorists?
Or the FACT that what was found was not a prayer rug but a soccer jersey.
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Or the FACT that what was found was not a prayer rug but a soccer jersey.
The left don't deal in facts. When will you learn?
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The left don't deal in facts. When will you learn?
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http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854 (http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854)
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It only takes a thrift shop rug to make the right nimwits meltdown now?
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It only takes a thrift shop rug to make the right nimwits meltdown now?
Oops...here comes the name caller..hahaha. I take you as seriously as I take Obama and his administration. lol
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Oh look.... the stupidest person on Getbig responds.
Inbred little midget getting his panties twisted over a rug. Good luck with the next eight years after Hillary takes over.
How about showing us the link to that scientific evidence that prayer works? Cause it seems like God isn't listening to the prayers of the right wind idiots as he chose Obama to be POTUS twice.
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(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--P_Nozms_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ovjrnsiubowspxirhgll.jpg)
1. Here we see a waist hemline on the Muslim prayer rug.
2. This would be a sleeve opening on the Muslim prayer rug, just above the diamond-hatch red-and-white pattern so popular among lower-tier football clubs and militant Muslim prayer-rug salesmen.
3. Islamic scholars and Arsenal fans will immediately recognize "die marke mit den 3 streifen" here on the Muslim prayer rug.
http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854 (http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854)
Muslim prayer rug = debunked
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(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--P_Nozms_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ovjrnsiubowspxirhgll.jpg)
1. Here we see a waist hemline on the Muslim prayer rug.
2. This would be a sleeve opening on the Muslim prayer rug, just above the diamond-hatch red-and-white pattern so popular among lower-tier football clubs and militant Muslim prayer-rug salesmen.
3. Islamic scholars and Arsenal fans will immediately recognize "die marke mit den 3 streifen" here on the Muslim prayer rug.
http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854 (http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854)
Muslim prayer rug = debunked
Please stop interjecting LOGIC and FACTS and COMMON SENSE in the threads these midget idiots are whining on. It really fucks with their tiny heads and keeps them up at night. Just let them whine and feel like they have a point for once.
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Oh look.... the stupidest person on Getbig responds.
Inbred little midget getting his panties twisted over a rug. Good luck with the next eight years after Hillary takes over.
How about showing us the link to that scientific evidence that prayer works? Cause it seems like God isn't listening to the prayers of the right wind idiots as he chose Obama to be POTUS twice.
This is your usual reaction when you get backed into a corner because like ALL on the left, you can't come up with any viable arguments for what your loser messiah s doing. After this, take it to the religion board Assclown...
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/can-prayer-heal
This is one. A non-bias observation by a reputable site.
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(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--P_Nozms_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ovjrnsiubowspxirhgll.jpg)
1. Here we see a waist hemline on the Muslim prayer rug.
2. This would be a sleeve opening on the Muslim prayer rug, just above the diamond-hatch red-and-white pattern so popular among lower-tier football clubs and militant Muslim prayer-rug salesmen.
3. Islamic scholars and Arsenal fans will immediately recognize "die marke mit den 3 streifen" here on the Muslim prayer rug.
http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854 (http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854)
Muslim prayer rug = debunked
Seriously? lol
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This is your usual reaction when you get backed into a corner because like ALL on the left, you can't come up with any viable arguments for what your loser messiah s doing. After this, take it to the religion board Assclown...
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/can-prayer-heal
This is one. A non-bias observation by a reputable site.
Your source discusses a Harvard researcher who defines meditation as prayer, thus subsuming the well-known effects of meditation on the brain under the 'prayer' heading -- a very misleading result given the context (i.e., a context in which most people will think of Christian intercessory prayer when they hear the word 'prayer'). It then proceeds to discuss some of the apparent health benefits associated with being religious: fair enough, but a separate issue from whether prayer works. The primary advocate of prayer in the summary -- a rather biased Christian by the sound of his comments -- was just about to launch the next phase of his MANTRA study on prayer; the results were published about a year after this summary was written.
The results (http://corporate.dukemedicine.org/news_and_publications/news_office/news/9136) indicate that prayer "did not have a significant effect upon the primary clinical outcome observed in patients undergoing certain heart procedures." Then, a year later, Harvard Medical School published the results (http://web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/3_31STEP.html) of the largest-ever study of intercessory prayer, also demonstrating nary a positive effect of prayer.
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Your source discusses a Harvard researcher who defines meditation as prayer, thus subsuming the well-known effects of meditation on the brain under the 'prayer' heading -- a very misleading result given the context (i.e., a context in which most people will think of Christian intercessory prayer when they hear the word 'prayer'). It then proceeds to discuss some of the apparent health benefits associated with being religious: fair enough, but a separate issue from whether prayer works. The primary advocate of prayer in the summary -- a rather biased Christian by the sound of his comments -- was just about to launch the next phase of his MANTRA study on prayer; the results were published about a year after this summary was written.
The results (http://corporate.dukemedicine.org/news_and_publications/news_office/news/9136) indicate that prayer "did not have a significant effect upon the primary clinical outcome observed in patients undergoing certain heart procedures." Then, a year later, Harvard Medical School published the results (http://web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/3_31STEP.html) of the largest-ever study of intercessory prayer, also demonstrating nary a positive effect of prayer.
BBBBUUUTT.....there's always going to be a but. That was one link. There are a lot more. But atheists will always TRY to debunk. lol
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BBBBUUUTT.....there's always going to be a but. That was one link. There are a lot more. But atheists will always TRY to debunk. lol
Debunk what? Where is the evidence for the claim?
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http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_proof.htm
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http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_proof.htm
As this (http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_is-prayer-good-for-health.htm) page of your source indicates, 1stholistic.com has an extremely broad definition of prayer consistent with various forms of meditation and a variety of non-Christian practices. I'm not arguing whether meditation works or not -- it has demonstrable effects on the brain. Further, the second paragraph of this (http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_proof.htm) page indicates that the dumb quacks conflate the health benefits of religiosity with the efficacy of prayer. They also can't be bothered to write in proper English ("This is thew situation when the sick persons are prayed for and don't even know it.", fifth paragraph) and cite the "parapsychological literature" in arguing that prayer makes prayed-for fungi grow faster (fifth bullet down). These are the people whose word you want to take?
It's clear that you've desperately googled 'prayer works' or some such and linked me to whatever came up. The problem is, this is a quack-laden site that doesn't even address the concept of prayer you have in mind. The fact remains that all major, scientific studies of Christian intercessory prayer indicate zero efficacy.
So, how did you end up believing something with no evidence that you must've known at some level you had no evidence for? It couldn't be that evidence doesn't matter in the end and that you choose beliefs based on their ability to satisfy preferences and look for evidence after the fact, if at all?
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hey, yall are trying to change the subject.
Do we all agree that it is a soccer jersey? And yes, it's a pretty compelling case.
Sounds like Brietbart got trolled pretty hard by liberals pretending to be conservatives.
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We're not "some other country" so who really cares? Why should we be forced to bring our standards down to other countries? This is exactly what Obama is doing. Seriously have to trolling.
Not trolling.
If you're as proud of your ignorance as you sound, I think I understand why you'd want to avoid knowledge and perspective.
Personally, I thing to be ignorant is to tend to be fearful and I don't like being afraid.
Especially not afraid of the things the conservative media would have me be afraid of.
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As this (http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_is-prayer-good-for-health.htm) page of your source indicates, 1stholistic.com has an extremely broad definition of prayer consistent with various forms of meditation and a variety of non-Christian practices. I'm not arguing whether meditation works or not -- it has demonstrable effects on the brain. Further, the second paragraph of this (http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_proof.htm) page indicates that the dumb quacks conflate the health benefits of religiosity with the efficacy of prayer. They also can't be bothered to write in proper English ("This is thew situation when the sick persons are prayed for and don't even know it.", fifth paragraph) and cite the "parapsychological literature" in arguing that prayer makes prayed-for fungi grow faster (fifth bullet down). These are the people whose word you want to take?
It's clear that you've desperately googled 'prayer works' or some such and linked me to whatever came up. The problem is, this is a quack-laden site that doesn't even address the concept of prayer you have in mind. The fact remains that all major, scientific studies of Christian intercessory prayer indicate zero efficacy.
So, how did you end up believing something with no evidence that you must've known at some level you had no evidence for? It couldn't be that evidence doesn't matter in the end and that you choose beliefs based on their ability to satisfy preferences and look for evidence after the fact, if at all? Could this effect be amplified in persons with pronounced cognitive limitations?
I think I would pay money to see a vid where Coach tried to read syntax's post aloud. lol
I'm 100% sure that he'd be unable to sound out some of the words used, much less know their meaning.
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hey, yall are trying to change the subject.
Do we all agree that it is a soccer jersey? And yes, it's a pretty compelling case.
Sounds like Brietbart got trolled pretty hard by liberals pretending to be conservatives.
Though I don't know why a hoaxer wouldn't just plant an official Muslim prayer rug, I must admit that it looks like a breitbart got trolled.
When you use Google Images for the term "Muslim prayer rug" nothing like that Italian tablecloth-looking thing comes up. I even tried "red and white checkered muslim prayer rug" and still came up empty.
Maybe these 3 guys are responsible for the prank:
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(http://www.troll.me/images/angry-meatloaf/again-with-the-logic-ill-change-the-subject.jpg)
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This is your usual reaction when you get backed into a corner because like ALL on the left, you can't come up with any viable arguments for what your loser messiah s doing. After this, take it to the religion board Assclown...
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/can-prayer-heal
This is one. A non-bias observation by a reputable site.
HHAHAHAHA you stupid ass. You obviously do not understand that SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE does not include the phrase "may have" like that article does.
If prayer works, then why hasn't God answered your prayers and given you an IQ that is at least higher than your age?
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http://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_prayer_proof.htm
HAHAHAHA another fluff opinion piece.
Dumb ass Joe doesn't know what EVIDENCE really is.
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so brietbart didn't research what they actually looked like - and just took the word of people holding a soccer jersey? I mean, they didn't stretch it out and realize it had arm and head holes? LOL....
seriously, I cannot understand how this becomes a national news story. they didn't even look at the cloth and realize it was a shirt?
it's pathetic all around. I hope this is brought up each time someone quotes that news source now. "Oh, the ones that announce prayer rugs without looking to see a medium tag in it? lol come on...
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Ended up looking like an idiot? Nothing new there.
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Who the fuck cares if it was?
LOLOL.
Coach is a fucking moron.
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Who the fuck cares if it was?
LOLOL.
Coach is a fucking moron.
Scientific evidence supports this claim.
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Matthew Leber spokesman for the American Patriot, Three Percent, sent Breitbart News photos of what American security contractors on the ground believe is a soccer jersey found near the border in Arizona last week.
A member of the security team spoke with Breitbart News on Monday night saying they were on patrol right along the border came down into a wash and the area were working in just south of Sierra Vista in Coronado national forest.
“That’s when I saw this thing laying around. And I was like, ‘What the hell is that?’ We walked over there and I didn’t really want to pull at it not knowing what was on it. I poked a bit at it with a stick and noticed some of the team game writing and was just like, ‘Oh boy.’ I snapped a couple of photos and then went on our patrol.”
lol.
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Scientific evidence supports this claim.
t shirt on the ground makes him meltdown. Lol. What I don't get is why does it matter? what if this was a prayer rug? like anyone gives a fuck.
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The point is that we've had a lot more then just latins stream across the border. Iran operates in central and south America. But don't worry...nothing to see
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The point is that we've had a lot more then just latins stream across the border. Iran operates in central and south America. But don't worry...nothing to see
The point is, a damn tshirt on the ground does absolutely NOTHING to support the above statement.
Lies and fear mongering work better at times for the sheeple when the truth doesn't.
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Hang on, Coach is trying to post 'scientific' evidence that getting on your knees and whispering words into the wind stirs an all mighty ghost somewhere that will in return give you your heart's desires?
If you ask me, the only evidence this presents is that his bloodline didn't evolve the past 3000 years
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Look you don' think there's anything wrong with these people crossing the border. You libs think we should house and take care of everybody. The border patrol has found rugs, Koran's and arrested middle easterners in the past. Whether this is a real rug or not doesn't matter. You idiots argued about whether its real like its a one off thing. You live in a fantasy land. Keep backing Obama right to the bitter end. Fucking douchbag....
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Look you don' think there's anything wrong with these people crossing the border. You libs think we should house and take care of everybody. The border patrol has found rugs, Koran's and arrested middle easterners in the past. Whether this is a real rug or not doesn't matter. You idiots argued about whether its real like its a one off thing. You live in a fantasy land. Keep backing Obama right to the bitter end. Fucking douchbag....
Obama better get off Michelle's cock for a day and sort the border mess out. I'm not delusional enough to throw my chips in with one party. Whoever happens to be in government in which country I happen to live in, better do his fucking job. These leaders absolutely live off delusional supporters. The rely on neurosis suffered by their voters that's too far gone to change party allegiance. The hilarious thing here is to watch the chronically stupid 'Right' slam Obama and accuse Democrats of malice, .... while doing the exact same fucking thing they hate the 'liberals' do when a Republican is in office :-\
I'm looking forward to Rick Perry doubling the country's debt like he done in Texas and then claiming success. The Stupid will believe him, the Democrats will have their turn to bitch and the whole circle will continue quite nicely :D
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All these people have to do is register themselves as corporations and they can just walk across. ;)
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Keep backing Obama right to the bitter end. Fucking douchbag....
I think much of his blindly devoted core supports and defends him for racial reasons.
What's really bizarre to me is those who don't even live in America who defend him so fiercely and spend huge amounts of their time attacking his critics, most of whom are actually American citizens who have to suffer under his policies and have such a right to criticize him and his policies.
Again I think it's racial / demographic. Like if Hillary gets elected, I'm sure women from all over the globe will be defending anything and everything she does, and attacking anyone who dares criticize her in the least as "sexist", etc.
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Whether this is a real rug or not doesn't matter.
Well, it does in this case, because it shows people just fabricate news and Brietbart will repeat it with zero fact checking. They just take the word of a group with a VERY biased political viewpoint.
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Obama better get off Michelle's cock for a day and sort the border mess out. I'm not delusional enough to throw my chips in with one party. Whoever happens to be in government in which country I happen to live in, better do his fucking job. These leaders absolutely live off delusional supporters. The rely on neurosis suffered by their voters that's too far gone to change party allegiance. The hilarious thing here is to watch the chronically stupid 'Right' slam Obama and accuse Democrats of malice, .... while doing the exact same fucking thing they hate the 'liberals' do when a Republican is in office :-\
I'm looking forward to Rick Perry doubling the country's debt like he done in Texas and then claiming success. The Stupid will believe him, the Democrats will have their turn to bitch and the whole circle will continue quite nicely :D
Exactly
Same applies to the idiots that think Obama's policies are significantly different than the ones the criticized under Bush.
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Well, it does in this case, because it shows people just fabricate news and Brietbart will repeat it with zero fact checking. They just take the word of a group with a VERY biased political viewpoint.
Stop pointing out the logic that common sense dictate.
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Look you don' think there's anything wrong with these people crossing the border. You libs think we should house and take care of everybody. The border patrol has found rugs, Koran's and arrested middle easterners in the past. Whether this is a real rug or not doesn't matter. You idiots argued about whether its real like its a one off thing. You live in a fantasy land. Keep backing Obama right to the bitter end. Fucking douchbag....
These people make light of anything that potentially makes their Lord and Savior look bad, no matter how serious it is. One can only hope these types will all be strung up from lampposts one day in the near future along side their treasonous Democrat heros.
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These people make light of anything that potentially makes their Lord and Savior look bad, no matter how serious it is. One can only hope these types will all be strung up from lampposts one day in the near future along side their treasonous Democrat heros.
LOL
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These people make light of anything that potentially makes their Lord and Savior look bad, no matter how serious it is. One can only hope these types will all be strung up from lampposts one day in the near future along side their treasonous Democrat heros.
"One can only hope these types will all be strung up from lampposts one day in the near future..." LOL
JM, when I considered that maybe you were 100% serious when you wrote that, you reminded me of Mordecai from Cabin In The Woods:
BTW, I think you're not at all serious about hoping that any such thing happens. Right?
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Thats was spot on.
Is Johnny Matrix = Mordecai?